Plucking the Tulip? Eastern Orthodox Misunderstandings of Reformed Theology

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Main Article Being Addressed: orthodoxbridge...
Arakaki’s Part 2: orthodoxbridge...
Arakaki’s Part 3: orthodoxbridge...
Arakaki’s Part 4: orthodoxbridge...
Jacob Aitken’s Response to Arakaki, Part bayouhuguenot....
Jacob Aitken’s Response to Arakaki, Part 2: bayouhuguenot....
Arakaki’s Reaponse to Aitken: orthodoxbridge...
Aitken’s Final Response to Arakaki’s Response: bayouhuguenot....
Aitken’s Helpful Note on the Monergism = Monothelistism Argument: bayouhuguenot....

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@teetetomenon5658 Жыл бұрын

Blessed, Marius here!

@bakhtior2589 3 ай бұрын

Its ironic that despite the thousands of protestant sects that stem from the reformation, and continued "misunderstandings" of "clear" biblical interpretation by those like Calvin and Zwingli, protestants STILL are adamant that the Holy Spirit will guide the individual reader of Holy Scripture to the truth, without any councils, creeds, confessions - neither the Church. Such chaos and arrogance

@scholasticismreformed166 3 ай бұрын

@@bakhtior2589 what you described is not true of Protestant orthodoxy or this channel, so please keep the troll comments for the people you have in mind here, because you seem lost.

@bakhtior2589 3 ай бұрын

@@scholasticismreformed166not a troll, but protestant orthodoxy does not exist. It's an oxymoron to sound apostolic and not innovative

@scholasticismreformed166 3 ай бұрын

@@bakhtior2589 would you like to discuss this somewhere else? I’m often on Clubhouse and/or Discord.

@bakhtior2589 3 ай бұрын

@@scholasticismreformed166 I barely know how to use discord but sure let me know how to reach you there if you prefer

@scholasticismreformed166 3 ай бұрын

@@bakhtior2589 name is: edwindechandieu

@LumendeLumen Жыл бұрын

Insanely hard intro king

@scholasticismreformed166 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support! Just saw one of your videos! 😆

@truthisbeautiful7492 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for doing this. William Perkins 'a reformed catholic' has been wuite helpful to me.

@scholasticismreformed166 10 ай бұрын

Glad to help! Perkins is also quite the benefit as well, keep it up 🙏🏽

@evanrojas2561 Жыл бұрын

Love the content brother keep it up!

@scholasticismreformed166 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support!

@jordanmisumi Жыл бұрын

This is great

@justcody4615 Жыл бұрын

Interesting stuff, I'm a Van Tillian who's never understood the bizarre criticism of Reformed Scholasticism and I've been helped a lot by the channel. Thankfully I came to Van Til through Frame so I've never been dogmatic about Van Til to the extent of James White, who seems to think the baptist confession of faith itself disproves Divine aseity.

@scholasticismreformed166 Жыл бұрын

Glad to help! I certainly think that criticism of Reformed Scholasticism (from professing Reformed Baptists/Presbyterians is quite odd as well; I think that it stems from an over dependence on some of the older scholarship that has made some fairly significant mistakes on continuity/discontinuity in the Reformed tradition. At some point I’ll be putting out a video on the Scholastic method & the use of Aristotle in Reformed Orthodoxy.

@justcody4615 Жыл бұрын

@@scholasticismreformed166 oh that would be helpful, something else would just be a basic introduction. Obviously I'm working through Richard Muller but I bore easily with historical theology, getting into Reformed Orthodoxy is pretty intimidating, for a Van Tillian the resources are all but public domain, but for Thomas? What do I have to do, read Edward Feser? It's just downright scary. I think that drives a lot of people away. They're afraid of over complicating everything.

@justcody4615 Жыл бұрын

Thankfully I was gifted all of Charnock and Zanchi awhile ago, I feel like they'll be as helpful as Muller.

@Magx451 Жыл бұрын

I’m EO and found this edifying. Thanks. Would you say that you reject Gottschalk’s heresy on the grounds that it’s a version of equal ultimacy? Also do you have any resources on responses to St. Phillaret and the Confession of St. Peter Mogila?

@scholasticismreformed166 Жыл бұрын

So sorry for the delay; but yes at least from what I have heard of Gottschalk, I’m not a big fan of his language or that of “double predestination” in general (though I understand why some people use it). As for St. Phillaret and the Confession of Mogilia, I’m not aware of any responses to it other than my own thoughts unfortunately.

@edgarrangel1509 Жыл бұрын

Based

@jordanmisumi Жыл бұрын

Whats up!! 😄

@matthewbroderick6287 Жыл бұрын

Even if one has ALL FAITH, but does not LOVE, IT IS USELESS! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

@TheRoark Жыл бұрын

Rare Matthew Broderick W 🙏

@matthewbroderick6287 Жыл бұрын

@@TheRoark God's grace and peace to you always

@matthewbroderick6287 Жыл бұрын

@Bart God's grace and peace to you always!

@TheRoark Жыл бұрын

@@matthewbroderick6287 you too brother!

@TheOtherPaul Жыл бұрын

Another W

@EthanMiller-ul9sp 2 ай бұрын

Do yall have a discord or something

@scholasticismreformed166 2 ай бұрын

@@EthanMiller-ul9sp yessir, add me and message me so I can send you an invite. My name on there is: edwindechandieu

@kyoto8911 Жыл бұрын

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@jalapeno.tabasco 2 ай бұрын

people who say free will is required for love are utterly clueless

@dubbelkastrull Жыл бұрын

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@artdanks4846 9 ай бұрын

I don't even need to watch the video! The title speaks for itself! Let's see now...the Orthodox Church, which has existed since Pentecost in 33 AD, and which gave us the full canons of Scripture, and has continued to hand down the faith as given to the Apostles from the beginning, somehow "misunderstands" the clearly heretical teachings of the "newcomer" on the Christian Scene, John Calvin! Doesn't sound too plausible.

@scholasticismreformed166 9 ай бұрын

Any preface that includes the comment that one won’t even listen to the other person is automatically a poor response. As for the general idea of the video, regardless of the claim you’re making about the Orthodox Church, it’s completely possible for the EO Church to have “continued to hand down the faith as given to the Apostles from the beginning”, and yet have its apologists misunderstand a theological tradition. Now of course, this is not to say that it’s limited to apologists (since I think that the Council of Jerusalem 1672 does a bad job as well), but my focus is not on who has the true church/fullness of the faith, but on understanding one another regarding our actual beliefs.

@johnnylollard7892 4 ай бұрын

"One who gives an answer before he hears, It is foolishness and shame to him." Proverbs 18:13 The ego and pride of internet EO zealots knows no bounds. Fortunately, I know many of my real EO friends who would find your behavior a bad representation of their faith. It's off-putting to other Christians, and the constant responses to actual arguments with merely stating that we're all "heterodox" anyway, so de facto wrong, is about as sophisticated as a typical anti-intellectual Evangelical. Ironically, that's the kind of shallow attitude that many converts to Eastern Orthodoxy wish to avoid.

@WittenbergScholastic 2 ай бұрын

@@johnnylollard7892Perfect response.

@doomer12345 25 күн бұрын

🤡☝🏻

@TruLuan 7 ай бұрын

Imagine believing that God is responsible for evil doing

@scholasticismreformed166 7 ай бұрын

What does “responsible” mean here? God is the first cause of all things (and some may subsequently argue for physical premotion), but he does not will evil *qua* evil. The object of his will is the permission of said evils. Sacred Scripture also attests to God’s providence in the relevant subject, of which I can provide examples if you’re interested.

@TruLuan 7 ай бұрын

@@scholasticismreformed166 You believe in predestination don't you? That means you don't believe in our biblically evident God given free will and that He is responsible for evil.

@scholasticismreformed166 7 ай бұрын

@@TruLuan have you watched the video? This may clear up these misunderstandings. I never understood why some people will comment on a video with criticism, before actually watching it. As to your question, yes I believe in predestination, as the NT demonstrates. There should be *no* debate on the whether there is predestination/are there any who are predestined, since that is explicit in Scripture (I’m sure you know the common examples that are cited). The real debate is about the *cause* and/or condition of predestination, some saying that predestination is ante praevisa merita (before foreseen merits) or post praevisa meria (after foreseen merits), the former of which is also known as “unconditional election.” Lastly, I’ll just add that we do believe that God has granted us with essential free choice. As Francis Turretin says: “[W]e establish free will far more truly than our opponents; so the writings of our men abundantly teach that we by no means repudiate this term when properly understood.” - 𝘐𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘌𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘤 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘰𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘺, X.1.iii

@TruLuan 7 ай бұрын

@@scholasticismreformed166 I'll give your little video a watch but first I need to know if you presbyterians meet the marks of the church. Do you guys have a church in every nation land and tongue like the Catholics? Do you guys uphold the threefold hierarchy of Priest (or presbyter), Deacon, and Bishop? Are you guys united in beliefs on a global scale as 1 Corinthians 1:10 tells us? Do you guys believe the Eucharist IS Jesus' body and blood as told in John 6. Do you believe in faith AND works as context in Scripture tells us? Do you believe the true church was lost at any point, as that would be contrary to Christ's words in Mat 16:18-19? Do you recognize the necessity of infant baptism as it replaced circumcision?

@internautaoriginal9951 6 ай бұрын

@@TruLuan Again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Sam. 24:1) Then Satan stood against Israel and incited David to number Israel. (1 Chron. 21:1) God doesn’t cause evil but allows it, this two verses proves my point.