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Having some issues with pushing higher amounts of fertilizer through the drill, this isn't a new issue , as I have videos from the past years unplugging my drill 😂 but here we are again!
I guess I need to look into alternative methods, which I have been doing with hiring some floaters.
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[@vtwinboy]

When you put that impact away, I immediately thought, oh well, I would lose it and not remember where I put it... haha, it happens to me every time.

[@Variell]

Crazy how the time is flying by. I think the first video I watched was the 1050 review which was 5 years ago. Keep it up! And you need to visit Germany again 😊

[@FRRitter]

Always interesting listening to the issues as you wrestle with them - thanks for including us Mike.

[@mikemitchell2554]

Thanks! There's always something to challenge ones mind 😜 which I guess doesn't take much for me! 😂

[@James-qo8rh]

Federal government has a program that refunds you the cost of epoxy coated urea. The rebate makes the cost equal to regular dry 46-0-0. Something to look into .

[@chadkubashek4622]

@@mikemitchell2554 now that you are in North country you gotta get your self some mid row shanks and NH3 never look back.

[@matthewrachwal2986]

Ohh man thank you for this video !!!! Because I was thinking I am last guy in prairies who plunging the seeder. I’m sick of this issue and next year I’m buying intelligent ag blockage kit. And another issue with I have I always plugging seeder just beside the highway or neighbours 😂

[@spectralducklin]

Breakdowns close to the roads and neighbours always happen. Like it doesn't matter if it's newly serviced and everything looked after, it will always break down close to the road. That or the seeder won't be seeding. Never fails

[@7rixee]

The longer seedingvideos are great. Cheers 👍

[@minergate4066]

Good driving. That thing is a beast zig zagging in the mud

[@bigdawg210]

We switched to all seedmaster ultra SRs this year and having no more big hoses was awesome

[@delbutler885]

Mike my son works in R&D for Deere. The new big Deere has 4 hydraulic pumps.

[@jazzerbyte]

That fan snorkel looks like it works pretty well.

[@mikemitchell2554]

Pretty happy with it!

[@stevenhorne5089]

That was really curious about the temp differences between the the fans. This is one of your better videos. Lately.

[@mikemitchell2554]

Thank you Steven

[@jimpolk]

I'm glad you showed that stuff on the ground. I couldn't figure out what was sticking up.

[@barneyshort8227]

Mike. It may be a good investment to make the fan suction smooth and larger diameter pipe. Fan can turn fast but good suction to the fans is important.

[@autobootpiloot]

That’s what I was thinking. You might get over ten percent more air just from smooth pipes. Same goes for the hoses to the towers. Since they are pressure and not suction I don’t see a good reason why they aren’t semi smooth.

[@DalePiper-ru3hc]

Nice bend on that wing safety lock pin. Been there done that.

[@pyros145]

Just a heads up you won't get your full hydraulic flow at 1650 rpm, if you rev the engine higher you'll get more flow.

[@stickdude101]

The new Deere 9RX's have triple pumps to get to 160 gpm, and thats all to the rear, it has separate pumps for steering and brakes.

[@harleyquintin6974]

You sure look good in that red tractor .

[@NVMDSTEvil]

Gear down a bit while putting openers down maybe? Or might be a better hook up for the fan? We run 3 and 4 for fans on our 620, no fluctuations.

[@larrykluckoutdoors8227]

Great job of seeding

[@jarrodwemhoff7270]

Sf rtk and no issues 6000rtk had issues neat to see the northern lights in Nebraska

[@fredericdelage1542]

Mike magnifique vidéo et le tracteur et le semoirs et le champ et unide et pas facile 😂😮😅😊

[@Rockyviewfarms]

Anhydrous and smaller tow between tank would make a world difference up there.

[@chadkubashek4622]

Yup sure absolutely 1000% would

[@Rockyviewfarms]

You may still plug some mid row runs but that’s common it happens. With the tow between you can pull so much better with all the weight

[@NVMDSTEvil]

Have had to wiggle our 620 out 8 or 9 wet spots so far. No stucks yet here!

[@adams5153]

Obviously better to put the fert next to the seed, but at some point with plugging and having to refill the cart so often, does it make sense to back way off the fert going in with the cart and just top dress with a broadcast spreader before or after?

[@austinpaxman503]

You can prioritize your pumps in a case

[@brendanleis6411]

Maybe the biggest advantage of running a green drill…the impact would stick out instead of camouflaging!

[@robtaylor6806]

What!?? I lost all autotrac for almost a week during the bs earlier in the month. And I’m in North Carolina. And the new 9rx can have 3 56gpm pumps so total 168gpm (636lpm) still a bit low if you ask me.

[@jeffreyvian]

Claas xerion has a triple pump option

[@James-qo8rh]

What is the reason you don’t use nh3 ? That system especially for your farm size sure would improve efficiency. Switching to anhydrous was a game changer on my farm . Smaller air tank , no plugs !

[@chadkubashek4622]

Was chuckling 2 we have been using nh3 all my life we have dabbled with liquid and dry I would hate to ever give up nh3.

[@erickamekonapeper4007]

6:24 Mike would it be cheaper to buy H.P. fans instead of paying others to float the fert? Would you save money in the long run to have the stronger fans? Thanks. God Bless you for weather and no problems I ask in Jesus Name 🙏🏼❤️🖖🏼🇺🇸

[@Jonathancaseley]

Sounds like you need a John Deere 9rx 830 with a 100ft bourgault drill! That would fix the plugged runs haha

[@jameshattenbach5578]

When is your 715 supposed to be there

[@recklessbehaviour01]

Morning

[@georgedavidson1221]

Does anyone know how much rain they got on the south farm

[@farmingnodak]

I see Mike has to pull the Snoop Dogg maneuver in the wet spots too 😂

[@shealy265]

Does the Case 775 resolve the hydraulic capacity and designating high capacity items to separate pumps or does Agco have the locked up with patents? Been a while since the Case 775 launch videos, but I thought there was a large bump up in hydraulic capacity rates. Are Case hydraulics a deal breaker for next round of tractors?

[@angryscottishmechanic848]

I know this is video is two weeks old but 10 will get ya 20 that "air dryer" is plugging up on the air side. Just by the looks of the housing the fan looks like a forward incline wheel and they don't "like" high negative static pressure on the suction side. Why I air quote the term "like" is a forward incline fan wheel will have a non linear reduction in airflow and increase in horsepower requirements as inlet pressure is reduced ( high suction ) as compared to the same restriction on the outlet. Backwards incline or backwards airflow type wheels have higher eff. in a high negative application ( more air for less HP). I said this before I'm no farmer but I move air and control temp and humidity with the best of them.

[@sasfarmer]

I wonder if he can shut off the oil going to the snorkel cooler when not needed as when the weather is hot.

[@angryscottishmechanic848]

@@sasfarmer The heat will lower air destiny and effect performance but it's tiny tators compared to static pressure. Fun fact you will see a 2 DegF increase in air temperature for every 1" WC of static overcome by a fan. Newtons third law is unavoidable and if you put 10 HP into a fan the energy must have an and equal and opposite reaction. In moving air we use HP to over come the friction of the system so the opposite reaction to the HP from the hydraulics's is heat. As I said in my post the HP requirements are exponential ( non-linear ) when increased static is required. Adding more HP will have quickly diminishing returns as compared to lowering static.

[@delbutler885]

Be careful Robbing Peter to pay Paul. You always end up with a sore Peter.

[@Freefarmer533]

At 400lbs of urea the only one smiling on their way to the bank is Nutriens CEO!!!

[@detroitdiesel2983]

Definitely overkill on the urea

[@crandonborth]

@@detroitdiesel2983 Not Really... if he's going for 100 to 120 Bushel Durum it will use every bit of that. I'm not real familiar with his soil type but on are sand we have to dump a ton more fert on than on are red clay ground.

[@mikemitchell2554]

People just hear 400lbs and think it's a ton of fertilizer, not really.. Depending on what your soil needs and what yield you are realistically targeting. 400 of straight up 46-00 = 184 actual lbs of N enough for a 90bu crop. But blend that with sulfer or potash and now you might need 500 or 600 lbs of seed rate to get to 150lbs of actual N. 👍🙂 I have always said I never over fertilize but use blends to target yields per field. We have even talked phosphate or plants per square foot. 🤷🏼‍♂️😂 Or micros

[@noahmurphy5366]

I know durum is valuable but 150 units for a 2 tonne crop seems high. I don't think anyone in this area is using much more than that for 200+ bushel/ 4.5 metric tonne winter wheat crops.

[@mikemitchell2554]

@@noahmurphy5366 where is your area located? Because I know alot farms that target and use similar fertilizer rates in this area. But every area is different, south farm way less because the target is less. I dated a girl from southern Germany for a few years and they could grow a 3x what I could with no fertilizer 😂 but they also has a few feet of topsoil, where we are 4-6in 😆

[@jasonwilliams8016]

Is there anyway to prioritize the fans at the junction block on the tractor? Or is that what you were talking about when you showed us the 1,3,5-2,4,6 quick connects? Thanks for the video Mike love the content during seeding!

[@bobwest2807]

Hi Mike, Can you solve the blockage problem by entering the row slower.

[@timlarson787]

How are you liking the tires vs the tracks?

[@Tranlock]

Mike could you mention how much more juice your CASE IH 580 have? Would love to get to know if they got optimized with 120+ hp or whatever :p

[@beaviccoon470]

The new 9rx high horsepower tractors have the option of triple hydraulic pumps and they can go upto 168gpm, also thats just for the implements you've got behind the tractor as everything else on the tractor has seperate hydraulic pumps.

[@shaker8984]

That’s great, I think that for the most farmers the fact that it does not have def is even bigger though

[@robo1210]

It’s also well over a million dollar price tag. Those $15k fans seem a lot more appealing.

[@Thegrim326]

Buying a junk deere ain't gonna fix the problem it'll always happen especially when trying to push 400 plus pounds of fertilizer

[@beaviccoon470]

@@Thegrim326 woah are you BASHING a tractor brand on mikes channel

[@Magic_pancake355]

Also doesn’t require DEF

[@frankg5466]

Mike, Steiger 640 quadtrac would be handy

[@lynwessel2471]

He has a 715 coming.

[@SirHuddy]

His 580s are tuned to be a 620 Quad ;)

[@lynwessel2471]

@@SirHuddy Hydraulic capacity is the issue not horsepower.

[@stakman78]

Come on Mike. Case have never ever had a good hydraulic system, in fact having experienced most brands these red things have the worst in the business, electronics, cooling, hydraulics, always been inadequate. Also try cooler air, the heat expands everything, not always better.

[@Cumminsproject01]

400lbs of n holy crap thats alot how many bushel crop is that enough to grow? We've always put down around 170-180 lbs of n and then 40-70 lbs of starter with the seed depending on the crop and we grow pretty good crops 400 seems crazy high to me.

[@mikemitchell2554]

That's enough blend for an 80bu crop, it's what I have doing for 3yrs now.. Last year remember the videos of 80-100bu

[@Cumminsproject01]

@mikemitchell2554 yeah i suppose thats a good crop 80-100 have you been soil sampling at the north farm as well?

[@mikemitchell2554]

@@Cumminsproject01 every single field, and the nutrients macro and micro get adjusted by each field.

[@full5rounds449]

Mike, Help me out! I looked up the Saskatchewan fert tables and durum needs N of 1.64lbs/bushel yield. Did you say you're putting down 400lbs of N, meaning you're expecting 244 bu/ac? What am I missing???

[@mikemitchell2554]

I always figure on 2 actual lbs per bu of cereals and 3 for canola.. And it might be confusing, but the pounds that you seed are not relative to the (actual lbs) that those charts suggest. Example: Dry nitrogen is 46% of 100lbs of seed rate Liquid nitrogen is only 28% And Anhydrous Ammonia is 82% So if I targeted 80bu wheat, that crop will up take 160lbs of (actual) N whether that be applied or mined out of your soils. So I would need 350lbs of 46-00 or only 200lbs of anhydrous ammonia at 82%. Thats long short of it, then if you like me, add potash or sulfer to your blend, your 46-00 might go down to 30-0-6-10 or something which means you need to apply even more seed rate of 550lbs per acre to get that 160lb of actual N. Make sense?

[@full5rounds449]

@@mikemitchell2554 Yes, that makes sense. Very much appreciated. Best of luck this year!

[@johnchileen1065]

Yes to dry the air I understand but if it is effecting the performance then it’s not helping.

[@sandy7299]

Mike your bad for my health, I'm holding my breath and lifting myself out of the armchair trying to give that tractor traction.......

[@Wileybird03]

Think the (new)Deere is a triple pump I believe!

[@georgedavidson1221]

You could broadcast fertilizer

[@edwhite6250]

👍

[@FuelMan]

Could a pto operated hydraulic pump help with added pressure.

[@farmer697]

Hotter air never pushes as much product as cold.

[@georgedavidson1221]

You need a few runs of tile drainage

[@Grizzlybaer1]

You need to seed an extra headland give your openers time to get settled before your meters kick in

[@ronaldradtke8577]

Great video !!! Overall r u happy with ur case international tractor ???

[@johnchileen1065]

So Mike if you are heating up the air you will lose air volume and that could be causing your plugging issues

[@rustblade5021]

he had a system installed to heat the air

[@farmerstephen]

Can you not slow the oil speed down on the spool that drops the openers on so it doesn’t rob the oil flow from the fans.

[@eltontv6002]

He already did that. Looks like These fans take every bit of oil These pumps will Provide so they will drop regardless

[@farmerstephen]

@@eltontv6002 yeah o posted that before I had watched all the video. I have the same problem with my air drill. I had to slow the drop down to about 12% to stop it cutting the seed fan out.

[@eltontv6002]

@@farmerstephen its crazy how much oil These big drills take... thank god Our drills are only about 20ft wide so oil is no problem with both Fans running. But Our soil is so heavy we user 320hp tractors in front of them and they get small real quick on inclines.

[@farmerstephen]

@@eltontv6002 I only have a 6m drill combination on a 270hp new Holland

[@samjohnson1344]

What nitrogen product are you using at 400 lbs to the acre?

[@2007dalin]

four hundreds lbs of n??? that seems insane, ive never heard of more then 200

[@theclassiccountryman7484]

It doesn’t plug when you’re lifting the drill; one would presume that’s because you’re waiting for the cart/section control to stop metering before lifting out? If so, could you not lower the drill well in advance of crossing your worked area; that way by the time the drill starts metering the drill is already down and pressured up so the hydraulics only have to focus on one thing? @mikemitchell

[@johnmchardy4502]

Did you get the same fan issues on the 620 jd or is the oil flow any better on the jd

[@mikemitchell2554]

Same issues, Infact I had to run 2000rpms

[@johnmchardy4502]

Not an easy job then but just have to struggle on and get it done

[@Darryl-kr1hb]

I put on more fertilizer than that with my bourgault drill. Your set up is not correct. First, I doubt that those small hoses on the airguard will let enough air into the fan. Probably starving the fans for air. Second the High Pressure fan upgrade is a HUGE help. Third is how many towers on the drill? More sections seem to help as you have less lbs of product flowing down each hose. Fourth Bourgault has some problems with the airflow at high fan speeds when the sectional control opens up. There is a service bulletin online for this. And finally, slowing down your seeding speed puts less lbs/min in the airstream and gives more time for it to get out. Because you are on 12" spacing you have way less MRB per foot for that much product. Slowing the flow down on your lift circuit will help keep the fan rpms more stable when you lift to turn around as well as slowing down a gear or 2 before the headland to reduce the amount of fertilizer in the airpipes. High pressure fan is a game changer at those rates.

[@justinemagson1767]

I’m surprised you can’t prioritise your fans. I’ve got a 220 Puma that allows you to prioritise whichever remote you choose

[@EvanC8]

The new John Deere track tractors has 3 hydraulic pumps.

[@kit5318]

Just cut your ground speed to 4kph on turn, end of blockages.

[@daveschwerdtfeger7842]

👋🏼😎

[@tdwebste]

Do people there inject anhydrous ammonia? It is the only way we are able get enough nitrogen down.

[@EFCasual]

They do. It's understandable not everyone wants to use it though.

[@MarkCooper-q4h]

If your hydraulic lines have restricters then the tractor flow will only push a certain amount of oil , just saying check your lines or slowing the flow could help

[@ford8630power]

Didnt he mention they run everything on standard size couplers? Make everything as big as possible maybe helps

[@James-ml1ip]

Hey Mike....not trying to teach you to suck eggs....but....any chance the snorkel and Air guard kit is restricting the air intake and causing the blockages?? Just a thought?

[@mikemitchell2554]

I actually find it better this year vs the last few years, I am pretty happy with the system. Especially for night and wet running work

[@JohnDeere8370r]

Can you do a John Deere sprayer video

[@mattJsy1]

I am nothing to do with farming, but why not have the fans powered from their own engine and leave the hydraulics for everything else? 🤔

[@nateh1636]

Pounding the nitrogen , and then will wonder where his hard pan comes from.

[@EvanC8]

Can’t yoh just fear down so you are going slower when you are putting the drill in the ground and once its down speed up? You g slower means less product flowing so it should not plug.

[@scotta626]

Carry a small electric blower to spread the spilled fertilizer

[@RA-II]

Doesn’t micky listen to us NO

[@richardradawetz8788]

Get a floater to blow on a couple hundred lbs /acre

[@richardradawetz8788]

Ok u got er

[@stevecanfield9862]

Mike your not farming unless you try going through the wet spits

[@suhasshetty-ig5tv]

Mike 3 months no shave challnege....

[@deandauner3255]

Sign written in dust in the tractor AFRAID MY COLOR WILL CHANGE AT END OF YEAR . 😅😅😅

[@fowletm1992]

All the left couplers are pump 1 All the right couplers are on pump 2 and thats the biggest pump Rum both fans on the right and the drill on the left, you wont drop 1 rpm when you lift or lower

[@Knox_35]

man that must get super boring plugging nearly every time you finish a row

[@alaxparthur3734]

Have u ever thought of drying it out with an harrow?

[@carlfalt174]

Why so much nitrogen per acre? Canola don't need that much fertilizer per acre

[@joescheller6680]

Reason we went to anhydrous all luquid fertilizer.

[@RandomGuy-oy5hf]

Here a hungry canola crop takes 5kg nitrogren per dt yield

[@carlfalt174]

At the end of everything he can fertilize however he wants but the best soil investment is putting down extra phosphorus potash and sulfur and add the nitrogen as needed.

[@iansagen]

he farms in heavy clay up at the "north" farm. that much nitrogen is a result of a soil problem nobody around here addresses. We need oxygen in our compacted heavy clay soils to bring microorganisms out of dormancy and allow high preasure systems to push nitrogen (air) into the soil. the answer is a little bit of tillage and calcium for porosity up here but it takes time and nobody will "slow down for a yr" more and more and more synthetic pounds will only maintain yeilds. but you will never hear that from the agros or uni's because well... money talks

[@jimjohn5348]

What bout the new big bud that came out how is its hydro pumps

[@justinmartin5399]

Still not in production. Probably never will be