Plus 10 For The WIN?...Federal Premium HST .40 S&W Ballistic Gel Ammo Test!

Comparing some 155 and 165 grain Federal HST. Which one is the best option for self-defense? Heavy clothing ballistic gel test using a Glock 27!
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[@fortyofforty5257]

I'm going to post this before watching. I just bought 400 rounds of 165 grain .40 HST. It better do well in your jelly tests. I really hope it does. It's my favorite weight in short barreled .40s. Fingers crossed. On to the video. Thank goodness. It's not smelly, it crushed the jelly. 165 for the win.

[@jimwest1967]

never seen a HST fail.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂 Definitely some good stuff.

[@DasNukem]

I just got a ton of this too. First thing I did was check to see if it was tested here.😅

[@PerceptionVsReality333]

The 165 HST is my favorite HD/SD 40s&w round it's what I carry in my CCW G22. Through a full size pistol & in the right hands that bullet weight 40s&w is a force to be reckoned with. It's fast like lightning & hits hard like thunder.

[@MrCj_Common]

The best thing anyone serious about guns and ammo can do is check this channel to see if it's been tested before buying it 😂.

[@FauxAmis78]

Another .40 cal test. YES! SAVE THE FORTIES!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@PassivePortfolios]

The 40 S&W is going away but the 10 mm is rising from the dead. The 40 S&W will go the way of the 41 AE , 357 Sig and 45 GAP.

[@long-jeep]

​@@PassivePortfolios - We been hearing and reading that 10mm is gaining popularity since it debuted. The problem is that never has and never will manifest. It's a niche caliber and will remain so. One of those niches being bench racers 😆.

[@deejayimm]

@@PassivePortfolios Unfortunately, most 10mm is just 40sw in a longer case. I share TnT's anguish on this subject.

[@maskedman1980]

@@PassivePortfoliosdisagree

[@WaterZer0]

Federal showing almost everyone else how it's done.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@frawdulent]

100%. HST for the win! 🏆

[@murphymmc]

That's some good stuff. Your testing vids are the "go to" source anytime I'm looking to buy defense ammo. After watching multiple tests of various .40S&W ammo, it becomes pretty clear the "experts" out there who claim the .40 is obsolete are ill informed.

[@ToolsandTargets]

.40 aint goin nowhere anytime soon.😎👊

[@deejayimm]

It definitely is not what it used to be. That happens when it becomes less popular with LE agencies. I appreciate that, because it means the guns are cheaper now. But I would never recommend it to someone who is not already heavily invested in the caliber. It is a dying cartridge. Just not dying quickly thankfully.

[@mattpatterson9128]

Hornady, Underwood, Buffaloe bore, and Double tap for me now. You want full power loads, you have to pay more for them, but it's worth it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@shawthackston9723]

40. is my carry caliber Tools because it works. Great test!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@shawthackston9723]

@@ToolsandTargets you need to get a 4 inch barrel to test .40 also Tools. 🛠️

[@billieglennbusch2189]

Tools usually uses a G23 or along with the G27 for these tests. I’m sure you can watch some of his previous.40 videos. I will say again and again Tools jelly time is the reason I have a G27 and use it as my EDC. These results are just devastating!!

[@johncoon9409]

The G27 and the 165 grain are my daily ! This test was nice to see ! Thanks !

[@kingd3001]

I think that g27 gen 5 will be next my purchase

[@CeltKnight]

My old department used to tote .40s and our issue ammo was the 165gr HST. I still have a bunch of it (retirement gift, LOL) and that's what I run in my .40s big and small. From a SIG 226 to a Kahr PM40 (out that tiny Kahr I got 16" of penetration and full, beautiful expansion through light clothing - 2 layers of cotton t-shirt - at a ballistics seminar our local FBI put on. Dude with a Glock 22 with a custom 6" barrel got exactly the same (he might have been using 180gr HST, I don't remember). I have come to really like the .40 S&W as a great round for self-defense.

[@twistedfocus]

Hey look, it’s “standard velocity” 10mm (by today’s standards…)😂

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆

[@adriansoto239]

That's true. What's more powerful, a standard velocity 10mm or a 9mm +p+?

[@devanshvatsal4128]

​​@@adriansoto239 Probably watered down I mean standard velocity 10mm. Although, a nice, full power 180 or 200 grain 10mm would be more powerful than both, I think.

[@adriansoto239]

@@devanshvatsal4128 you are pretty good at answering questions I did not ask. I didn't ask you to guess anything. I asked what is more powerful a 10mm or a 9mm+p+?

[@knitepoet]

@@adriansoto239 10mm if it's a legit load

[@lonewanderer3603]

I run the 165 in my 5 1/4" XDM. It slaps the crap out of a steel plate and I've no doubt they'd make a 2 legged snake reevaluate his life choices.

[@joelbabcock2952]

Love the 40 S&W and this video shows why! Thanks!

[@rangetime6779]

Thanks for the 40 S&W test. The Federal 165 HST is the best round for the caliber. It always expands and the energy is great from a G27. Winchester Defender 165 is a close second. The 180's just don't have enough velocity out of a shorter barrel to reliably expand. A 9mm just doesn't compare. Besides Ft/lbs of energy most don't look at momentum when evaluating stopping power but we should.

[@yomomma107]

This ammo is all i carry in my edc's. No bs just performance

[@russellridge8623]

HST always a solid choice. Same with Gold Dot or Hornady. But I quit messing with those and head straight to Underwood Xtreme Defender. Velocity, barrier blind, tons of energy. Get out the way bad hombres. 😂

[@northshores7319]

Thanks for a much needed test. I find it unbelievable that LE and ordinary shooters think the 9mm is a better choice when compared to bullets like these they fall short. With a little weight lifting and hand gripping exercises anyone can manage the 40S&W's recoil.

[@Swampytheroot]

Good stuff. Honestly, HST rarely makes me wonder. 155 Speer Gold Dot is my preferred as it's designed for 1250fps from a 4.5" However, they don't make it anymore. At the 1250fps, it matches 357 Magnum 158gr loads from a 4" for energy. Nice review as always.

[@stevemahrer7097]

As a retired engineer, in a different field, your attention to the metrology details is both impressive and important. A breath of fresh air and sanity… Barrel length, loads, ammo makers test velocities, then the reality based upon the LabRadar for down range velocities, and… drum roll…the Jelly-Contraption! 😳 A very well done series of ammo /load testing from which shooters can glean some useful and correlated data points. Like the hat too! Best and thanks! P.S. not a 40S&W yet…. But…

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Can't get things 100% controlled and consistent, but I get as close as I reasonably can!😎👊

[@kevinramsey4673]

Awesome test Tools! This is why I keep carrying my G27. I use 165 gr HST's as well. I think you got a hair more expansion then I got in my gelatin. I believe I got .71. My gelatin is not in as good shape as yours. Thanks for keeping the .40 tests. I understand your opinion of Sig and would probably be the same way if they screwed me like they did you. I've only had one encounter with their customer service and wasn't very impressed. Back to what I was gonna say. The G27 and P365 are what I'm carrying 95% of the time. Both are loaded with HST's.

[@828enigma6]

I prefer a bit more velocity, but I'm convinced the 165 in this caliber is the best.

[@JoseSantana-yp1wp]

Yes please redo the 180 gr test. From what I remember you didn't put the clothing, also it was tested against 9mm. I'd like to see you use both barrel lengths you got

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@marcohandy67]

Nice! Sitting here watching while EDC'ing a G24 loaded w/ UNDERWOOD 115gr Extreme defenders.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@charliehayes6667]

I was always a big fan of .40 155 going 1100+. The 165gr were originally sub sonic dogs but several brands uped the velocity of the 165s to make them the best performers.

[@Grizzlyman420]

Wish the gun shop around me would carry stuff like this! All my good 50 round boxes i have to order. .40 is is my go to with gold dots,underwood, HST

[@bobwilson758]

Agreed !

[@TUKByV]

My local shops like to charge double MSRP.

[@Grizzlyman420]

@@TUKByV yeah I’ve snagged a few boxes in my store and they were 70$ for a box of 50… I can order online even with shipping cheaper than that!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mine does a ton of LEO trade and supply, luckily.😎👊

[@Grizzlyman420]

@@ToolsandTargets yeah man that’s awesome! I’ve been running a lot of AAC for the range. Seems to be the best bang for your buck! I very happy they’re making 7.62 as well! I just got a Zastava M70 to add next to my PSA GF5 so it’s great PSA is trying to fill the gap.

[@natiboynva2010]

I carry the same Glock and ammo everyday! Good to see it gets the job done. Run it back thru your Glock 22 and ruger pc4

[@tyreecestaten8536]

Right wanted to see it thru Glock 22 too

[@bryanst.martin7134]

A consideration you might add is the cutting edges of the expanded rounds. I was looking at the lead center after expansion and see they aren't sharp. But look at the Copper and there are many.

[@BigdaddyE71]

40 is the PERFECT self-defense round!!!

[@jeffdavis7616]

165 gr HST in 40S&W is my current carry ammunition. Glock 23 gen 4 is my EDC.

[@davidslesinski4761]

Me too great choice

[@ToolsandTargets]

Great rounds.

[@PerceptionVsReality333]

Me too but in a G22 in an inside the waist holster. It doesn't feel heavy on me.

[@lastnerve3705]

I just picked up some of this 165 Grain. Heading to the range this week to give it a try. I would like to see a video with the 165 vs 180. Since those are the 2 HSTs currently offered from Federal. Thanks for all of your work, Tools…

[@rogerwood5228]

Another great test. 40 still packs a punch.

[@147CombatMedic]

I'll be damned... 🤔 HST ain't scared of fresh blocks. HST don't give a flyin' frack! 😲😂 Even the spiraling disruption is a thing beauty with HSTs! 🤩 Great vid! 💥👍💥

[@furmanmackey5479]

And that ladies and germs is why I reverted to my trusty old ,40SW for daily carry and home defense and retired the only pistol I still own in 9 Minimal to the safe.

[@UncleFjester]

9mm Ammo is cheap AF today

[@furmanmackey5479]

@@UncleFjester And there are several very good reasons for that low cost.

[@kurtp5379]

​, yes, because 9mm is the most popular and most carried handgun caliber in the world, which is why it's manufactured in higher quantities.

[@michaelbarfield528]

Great review! Need to get a 4 inch .40 S&W which should be available as police trade-ins or pawn shops...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@raybo34]

Another great test. HSTs don't disappoint. I have some of the 165gr for my shorty.

[@billbertagnoli4226]

For many years the 125 grain 357 mag hollow point was the #1 round for one shot stops. The 165 grain .40 S&W took That title.

[@kevinrichardson8859]

😂😂😂 no it didn't!!! Good try though!! Can you cite a reliable source of that information?

[@TTime685]

It all depends on the grain and powder.. But 357 will probably edge out .40 when it comes to the hottest loads

[@billbertagnoli4226]

Evan Marshall and Ed Sanow Wrote a study that covered Twenty years of police shootings. It's pretty dated Now but it is an interesting Piece of research. Not sure Any 10 gun guys will agree On this one. The 125 grain 357 Magnum loading is always In the top loads mentioned. @@kevinrichardson8859

[@jackbauer9077]

Hard to beat HST’s! I got a HK usp compact and HST’s and gold dots are great out of it! Also the HSTS work great out of my shield 2.0, I have a .357sig barrel but carrying 40 is just as good in my eye, wish we’d get more modern micro pew pews in 40/45/10mm would be great

[@frankbrowning328]

They're good but they are loaded very light. 155 gr bullets can very easily achieve 1275 fps and 165 gr 1250+. I load 180 gr loads to 1100 with no pressure signs in a Glock 23 4'' barrel

[@michaelkaczor4206]

Nasty rounds out of the shorty. Very nice expansion. Good idea testing them out of the shorter barrel also.

[@neiljohnson1545]

Thank you for the video. I am a person with medium to large sized hands. The cartridge lenght is always a consideration. The 10mm make the firearms grip size to large for me. The 40 is perfect. Great power and good capacity.

[@metaldamnation276]

I carry the 165 in my 27 and 23. Thanks for the test, 👍. I think they both did great.

[@denveready3486]

Such great performance

[@PerceptionVsReality333]

IMO the 155 grain 40s&w 1,175 fps with a full size pistol is the best anti-personnel round. It's fast & hits hard with decent penetration & the shockwave creates a massive wound channel. I've actually seen it on pig carcasses before butchering to see what it's like since it's very close to a human torso.

[@BB-gr9hq]

I have never seen HST fail a test. I would like to find some HST in .38 Spl and see it tested out of a 2" snub.

[@dimmuborgir1066]

165 and 155 are my favorite weights in 40, really helps get the most out of it.

[@rschris]

Great test. I wonder how the test would go with a underwood Xtreme penetrators 140grain . With that monolithic projectile. I think would be very interesting. Thanks for another great video

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@danieltalamantes2296]

Love that you give the .40 clout yes I carry 9 all the time but my night stand gun is a full size m&p chambered in forty

[@scarifrougeone7225]

Another great test, performance and results from the HST ammo. Good commentary and video Tools. I liked the 165gr. As well but both are great. HST is one of the most consistent brands on the market. Good stuff, thanks for sharing and be safe. ⭐️⭐️😎⭐️⭐️

[@gilengel3505]

Thanks for confirming HST choice.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Double win.😎👊

[@fourthhorseman4531]

I've been thinking of switching from 180gr HST to 165gr HST for defense. Seems like 165 is the sweet spot in performance. Thanks for the test!

[@donnieb7660]

I prefer the 165 in my G22. The longer barrel gives MAGA expansion while slightly decreasing penetration, in my experience.

[@RealtyPro7]

Another great test. Hope to see a new updated test with the 180 grain HST soon! That’s the one I stockpiled lol. But have some 165 as well. I plan to finish setting up another edc in the next week. Another option in between the size/power of the G20 range and the little micro P365 Spectre Comp options. After getting a few hundred rounds through that Gen 4 G23C I picked up a while back, I’ll do the sights (Night Fision yellow up front with Glock metal 6.1mm night sight in back), extended factory slide stop/release, maybe an OW flat tac trigger kit (the one that uses the Glock factory trigger bar and minus connector with NP3 coating and I’d already had a spare tlr7 laying around that went on right away. No optic for this one. It shoots flat as any 9mm I have with all the various ammo so far, but with more thump on the target, as 40 tends to offer. It’s as accurate as I am and zero malfunctions so far as expected. Tested all sorts of target ammo, HST 180 and 165, Hornady Critical Duty and Defense, a few others, but not tried the Underwood Xtreme Defenders or Penetrators yet. Need to order another 9mm conversion barrel for this one and a 357sig. I think I’ll do another threaded one from KKM. They are not cut for the comp in the slide anymore but it doesn’t matter. Best that it’s not for the threaded barrel and a can anyway! It should make another great edc as well as spare SHTF bag gun package. 40 is definitely not dead, fills a size/power place right between 9mm and proper 10mm at 450-550 ft lbs and good capacity. No reason to let it fade away.

[@drewfincham4018]

40 s&w , carry every day and trust it. Great performance

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

The 40 is just a junior 10mm…. Still going STRONG!

[@3gunshooter60]

I do think the 165 is optimal for .40. I carry the gold dot in 165 and 180 when im carrying .40

[@bigracer3867]

Humidity been killing me😅. Thx for sharing 🎉🎉

[@CrashRacknShoot]

HSTs are the choice for me! Always good to see a few of em in the gel. Regardless of the caliber, they just kick ass.

[@joeyphillips1181]

I knew they would do great the 165's are my favorite 40 load and in my jug tests the 165 grain 40 opened up bigger than the 200 grain 10mm HST and they were both huge in my tests

[@davidrdanner4232]

I carry the 165 gn FEDERAL HST my personal choice.

[@chrisstandingbear1947]

I have two carry pistols in .40 I love it. I have a bunch of the 180 HST, I'll have to find your old vid on that.

[@theoriginalOSOK]

Nice. I carry a G23 Gen 4 with the 180 HST load. Your tests of the HST's are always great which is why I chose it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@brianklamer3328]

Those two HST bullets expanded picture perfect. Thanks for the video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@poisonPpaully]

I’ve got a 4” 40sw and it doesn’t matter the weight with hst I’ve tested 165 180 and probably something else and at further distances those hsts just do what they are supposed to even if they don’t load them as hot as I would like the projectile just always performs like it’s supposed to Another great video I’m subscribed to many channels but your channel is one of few that I click on no matter what because it’s great information that you are putting out

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, brother!😎👊

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Yes Sir! Great results. I have been carrying 165s over 180s for a good # of years. I have Gold Dots in now. I picked up the HST 165 recently when I rotate. This is very encouraging. My daughter is carrying 155 Gold Dots in her 3.6" M&P40. I carry a 4.25 M&P40. I will check & see if you have a vid with your G22. Huge thanks. Good show.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@louv4437]

Now we know why those two grains in 40 cal does so well in real world shooting data

[@jardinero9112]

Thanks for giving us some 40 cal love big hoss. In HST, we trust. Can't go wrong with Federal hst or speer gold dot. Matter of fact that might be a great test.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@raybayer2379]

That 165 grain is a beast! Can you give us a video tutorial as to how you re-melt your gel? Great looking re-melt!

[@garywood2137]

I love the HST projectile in all calibers.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Great stuff

[@barrymccockiner6641]

You and Mr. Turkey need to pull a couple of these, bump up the speed, and test them again!

[@hoffpbass]

Wow. Your tests using the G27 the last few months are impressive. That would make an impressive EDC with either these HSTs or the Hornady Critical Defense. Great test, Tools! Thanks much and have another great week.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. You too!😎👊

[@scpatriot5270]

Thanks for keep on testing the 40s&w i love this caliber!👍🇺🇸

[@brandiwynter]

My favorite kind of flower 🌺 lol. Gold Dots are pretty as well 🌺. I had zero doubt these would work perfectly.

[@ToolsandTargets]

They hit a homerun with HST.

[@dereksp6785]

What a beautiful flower!❤ Love the 40s and love your videos ! Thank you sir

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@effeojnedib7208]

Thanks for your test. Whatever critter gets hit with either, ain't gonna know the difference. The 165 for sure out edges out over the 155 in the jelly though.

[@grizz474]

Makes me wanna go back to carrying my 27, I do love it, and shoot it well. But like everybody else I went the hi-cap micro 9 route. I also have a duty size XDM .40, I love it too! Just too big to ccw, makes a great walkin around the woods gun though.

[@curtk8130]

Back in the day the 155 grain was popular amongst law enforcement. I personally think both of those are awesome.

[@DinoNucci]

40 is the correct answer vs human sized questions

[@peopleperson7263]

Love your vids , but why not just use a 4 inch for the test to see how it matches the box claims? 165 hst in 4 inch is my carry so maybe in just being selfish with the request haha

[@frawdulent]

Alternate the 180gr and the 165gr in my mags. Great test Brian!

[@PerceptionVsReality333]

Remington HTP 180 grain is my winter carry round. I got around 15" plus 4 layers of old T-shirts & ripped up hoodie penetration in gel with my Glock22 with that round.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Cr0wmagnum]

You just can't ask for much better than that in my opinion. I have one .40 that I do carry at times but it's been my woods and river sidearm. General utility for whatever nature throws at me. That there might just be my new go to round. Better penetration than what I expected. Thanks for the great content.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Perfect.😎👊

[@1jimmarch]

The only reason to pick one over the other is where your sights are set for elevation. I keep my 40 set to 165gr elevation.

[@StevenL00]

On a sidenote, if you were to paint the silver-ish part of the lead on the 155 red, you'd get the logo of a very well-known fictional company from a certain apocalypse/zombie movie franchise

[@ToolsandTargets]

⛱😲⛱

[@brucecook502]

Federal HST in 40 S&W is my all-time favorite self-defense cartridge, although I carry the 180 grain, but these are looking really good as well 👍

[@hypervigilance1465]

The 180 has better follow ups less recoil.

[@brucecook502]

@@hypervigilance1465 I've gotten enough practice with my 40 that my follow-up time and accuracy is pretty decent these days imo.

[@randyduncan795]

Either HST or Gold Dot in 165 are my 1st choice. Either HST or GD in 180 are my 2nd. Actually 357 Sig or 9mm is my first choice but that's another thing. Also in HST or GD.

[@leskrug9266]

My federal 165 grain FMJ shoot 1110 from my m& p 40 compact.

[@oubliette862]

I tried this 45acp 230gr jhp with a compact 2" barrel and got full expansion and penetration at 20' in gel. No cloth though. Was armscore, fairly cheap stuff.

[@petee454]

Excellent text. HST rocks!!!!! I think it was a mistake to give up on the .40's like a lot of places did. One day, I might get one. I'm not a Glock or striker fan, so i will have to shop around when i am ready. I got HST +P in 230 in .45ACP and 124 9mm.

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

You do a great job re-melting the jelly. I dunno if u buy a lot of the blocks.

[@bryanst.martin7134]

I use the Federals in 155fmj for Target practice and Nosler 150 GR JHP for defense carry.1110 MV.

[@drew671]

Love G27. I enjoy the poor mans HST. 165 grain federal punch rounds.

[@kevinrichardson8859]

Want more power ...penetration AND energy...just move up to 357sig and use the hst...youll get 100+ more ft/lbs of energy on target with better penetration and a lighter carry gun weight!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Or 10mm and still have support with new guns and ammo.🤭

[@lessingleton8102]

Dude you definitely influence what I buy I appreciate your testing Bad guys better stay away Thank you sir

[@davidaustin4407]

I am running the HST 135gr 40 S&W in my G23. I don't have a jelly contraption to test it on but I bet it performs similarly to your tests with maybe a little less penetration. I think 40 will stick around for a while. So many pistols in the civilian market will need feeding.

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Very impressive! Have 9mm HST, definitely need to pick some up for my G27. Thanks for another jelly test Tools!

[@Tigersfan081982]

That’s 165 my EDC in my Glock 23 and 27. It’s GlockyJelly time

[@RobertLowe-ws1bq]

G27 is my EDC. I use Underwood 155 gr loads. They have near 357 Sig power without the LOUD bang of my G33.

[@gloriamaletta8667]

While the Underwood 155 grain 40SW is plenty powerful at 1300fps 582lbs the Underwood SIG 357 115 grain are 1550fps 614lbs so l guess close 30lbs difference the SIG 357 shines over 50 yards

[@gloriamaletta8667]

I have a SIG P320 4.7 fullsize in 40SW with a SIG 357 barrel combo so I'm all about 40SW ammo that performs close to SIG 357 especially if it costs less than the expensive SIG 357 ammo does

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@caleb6988]

Both are great for every day carry rounds. Yet another fantastic test brother tools.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Wyamike734]

HST and 40 smith great combination. Thanks for the video .

[@ElainesDomain]

Thanks Tool Guy. Looks like I made the right choice. I've been loading up on the 165gr to se after I run out of the misc. 180gr I have now. Great test for me to see.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir. Fantastic performance.😎👍

[@RealtyPro7]

Found and rewatched (again) the old test from a year ago. It was the 10 vs 40 HST video and did use the clothing barrier, and used the 180gr 40, but used only the G22 that time. Would be nice to see the results from the G23 since I don’t think you have a G23C handy. They should be similar. Maybe make it a comparison between the 165 vs 180gr HST using either the G22 and G27, or even add in the G23 and really make a mess out of the gel block lol. It’s a shame that +P isn’t used for 40 and 10. If we had the option of HST 180gr 40 in +P speed, and HST 200gr also in a +P speed (or really simply at least 150 fps faster)… that just might be the best of both and beat all their competition for ideal carry ammo in those two calibers. I understand why people get frustrated and just make their own loads. Maybe someone will pop some HST 10mm out of their cases and get it to the proper 1250 fps for you to test??? If so I’m betting absolutely perfect performance at that speed. And then Federal can pay you both for doing their job for them in R&D and offer the ammo the way it should be made! 💰🤔💭 lol

[@daviddurbin9802]

Thanks for the test! Still not sold on buying a .40 cal pistol. Might opt for the 1 cm pistol instead.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@leskrug9266]

The federal 165 grain syntech are 100 fps slower!

[@hartsickdisciple]

I used this Federal load in my P226. Pretty stout stuff.