FGO Hot Takes : "Okuni, the secret top tier nobody remembers

[@mythicalskeleton1546]

She feels like the summer sei situation where she feels underwhelming before the mighty chain and summer skadi come out but when they do come out it will massively impact her preformance as even if you are just using her to mighty chain into trying to loop the np the buster will hit extremely hard hopefully breaking a bar so the arts will refund the most during it's crit

[@auraemerald8434]

I started this year with Lancer Ryouma as a target and now I know I’m going to be struggling because Okuni looks cool as hell.

[@wobby5325]

I'm with you... BUT WE MUST HOLD ON FOR OUR BOI RYOUMA HOLD ON BROTHER

[@mrhbombman]

Thankfully, somehow I got NP2 Okuni from a yolo 10 roll, so I'm all ready to get Lancer Ryouma with my large surplus of tickets

[@cephon6198]

That's how they get you

[@jd_feet]

I really appreciate your hot takes. By far the best FGO review content. I really hope you’ll continue the series maybe more sporadically so that it doesn’t take up that much time❤️

[@PlushieMistress]

Thanks, will do!

[@humpitydumpizzle]

Thanks for this! These days, it's easier to look back at servants with 20-20 hindsight. Looking at her now, she really does have a lot of value to bring to the table, especially when you are rewarded for having servants for a variety of challenging content in the future. Plus, the appeal of an offensive servant that fully maximizes mighty chains is a major perk

[@AmazonKidA20]

Plushie thank you I too thought she was underrated and people didn’t give her enough credit she is good as a DPS I hope more people will see just how amazing she is.

[@MrFish-sm4ks]

Underrated? NAY, TIS I who stand here in absolute DEFIANCE, my shear presence OVERWHELMS the NERDS who say “ermmm well acttuhally she isn’t very-“ I CLOBBER THEM for izumo is and will ALWAYS be #1 of all time to EVER exist 😤

[@Pingsus]

She’s great! Just got her to level 120 :D People seems to be liking her more since her NA release!

[@scarlettryuken4320]

shocker listening to tourists complain about this game and its char is complete bs :shocked:

[@JohnWick-rh1zz]

it doesnt help that ryouma and oryou completely overshadows her in terms of popularity

[@Assasin2]

@@scarlettryuken4320Yeah I’d definitely say everyone should take big complaints about some characters with a grain of salt. Sometimes people are right, but there’s plenty of cases where some people just parrot others hot takes. The FGO subreddit is full of posts like “JP said this servant/event sucked, but actually it’s fine?”

[@scarlettryuken4320]

@@Assasin2 these "fans" lost any and all creditability to me from the moment the fae knights were released and somehow their ONLY conclusion was OMG they literally genderbent the EXISTING male servants into waifus reeeeee souless game and hated them all yea when thats the average complaint anything they ever say afterwards is kinda moot

[@The_Avalon]

Thank you for making this video. I can't believe how many people have called her either bad or just mediocre at best when she's got a lot going for her. Also as you pointed out, I've seen a bunch of people just glance at the NP dmg spreadsheet numbers and judge from there without looking further into the matter. Hopefully with more people making reviews on her and showcasing how good she is, people will finally realize that she's a great unit, especially later on with Summer Skadi.

[@scarlettryuken4320]

ok but *we dont need a quick caster because we'll be getting, traum caster, daitouken and fcking MARTHA* as quick casters :acktuyally: yea this fanbase is stupid

[@zenalias3131]

Finally! We can give credit where credit is due. Okuni's been in my go-to for my ST Caster core crit party. **Summer Skadi is a must as support for one to see those beautiful golden critical numbers Oh Oh and the random grunts from Mafia Kajita is a +1 to Okuni's selling points

[@mythicalskeleton1546]

People also forget that most servants sacrifice damage for hits and quick despite the nps having higher % modifiers on damage they also have to remember quick is the "weakest" card type in terms of damage because it was likely made to be a balance dropping stars which buster can do and some np. The damage mods are also a reason some have lower np damage numbers or base attack.

[@nknown3982]

Since when did quick become the weakest in terms of damage? Quick has the highest multipliers on np of the 3 so if you have the exact amount of buffs on a servant, quick is gonna hit the hardest

[@fseiba6718]

Actually most of the highest np damaging units are Scatcah,berserker mhx and other quick servanrs.

[@Merchuyley]

My main issue with her is the same I have with any quick focused dps its the fact I have no good quick supports mainly skadi so I just never end up rolling for quick servants

[@Venax91124]

same issue with me...i still dont have skadi....i try to get okuni because the only. caster that can do most damage in my account is 3star casters😂😂

[@lookingcooljoker7635]

Big fan of Okuni, got her to NP2 10/10/10 level 100 already

[@t_raywen8750]

I AM JEALOUS

[@K1yoshu]

Got her at NP3 gonna be maxxing her and Taira now

[@Kuch1to]

Mega based

[@bayunurfahri6543]

Also me, mine is np 3 10/10/10 and level 120

[@jacobfrye7647]

I didn’t realize Izumo was underrated. IIRC she was one of the reliable DPS to use at a certain super recollection quest. Ofc at a high NP level considering how stupid the Hp bars are in super recollection

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

Charlotte Caster's skill is a Castoria Solemn Defence nerf. She has anti-synergy with Castoria because she forces the enemies to face card instead of using skills that save your stacks of Castoria NP... Quick Caster doesn't have this issue. At least in a CQ scenario where every Castoria NP counts.

[@gwagner1380]

She can solo 1 of the multi raids Ort will have, if that doesn't sell you on her power I don't know what will. On a raid that is notoriously hard even on JP, being able of just sacrificing 1 unit instead of 3 is a powerful exchange. If I weren't pressed on resources atm thanks to Eresh a month ago I would definitely pull for her.

[@GS_CCC]

I took down ort with a bunch of lv 40 servant I summoned in the same day. Taking a bar is nothing that matters. If she can easily get the damage for ordeal 1enemy nodes would be a better way to check if she is good.

[@adrastos8401]

Another thing to consider is that Skadi gives 30 to 35% more damage boosts than Koyanskaya and 10% to 15% more than Merlin. Assuming borrowed support, but you are only F2P so something like: Merlin+Da vinci Ruler vs Ruler Skadi+Da vinci ruler as supports Izumo does similar damage to Ilya even turn 1 even at NP1 (where the NP upgrade matters the most) and Merlin provides 30% less charge and with double Skadi and ramp up it's even worse. Double Ruler Skadi+BG vs double Koyan+BG leaves an NP1 Izumo matching an NP4 Ilya even if you don't consider the attack downs on Ilya.

[@kairowkuroshi1371]

Rolled for her last night. From 1 multi I got one copy and stopped rolling. Which is pretty crazy since my friends in a server got a copy themselves so we're just chilling with our own new caster. Thanks for the review it's very insightful.

[@AlexGulea]

I watched your last podcast and it would be amazing if you made a Jacques video…I love listening to your takes and team building insights…

[@JaimeNyx15]

I have her in JP and she has been very consistently solid. I don't even have a Skadi and she still works well as a standalone DPS. I was hoping to get her in NA, but sadly the Gacha Gods did not see fit to grant me that boon.

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

I grailed my Ryouma and waiting for his twin, i ain't pulling for her

[@liongson9431]

Ye makes my money worth yesterday. Really thank you for the review

[@messengerfrom0]

People saying she's mid or that they don't need a good ST caster are gonna be crying when ORT changes his class affinity to assassin.

[@_____2219]

Illya and Xuanzang Sanzang exists. And they're also buster dps. At this point everyone should have either because of repeated banners and spooks.

[@lookaspam]

You don't need dps casters in general.

[@abdulzaelani9954]

The more i see people hyping up summer skadi the more scared i feels with the next summer. Always a fan of scathach but damn i never realize how strong she is, always thought people prefer using koyan than her

[@nknown3982]

Depending on your use case, summer skadi is a luxury pull that you absolutely don't need, it's as simple as whether you want to play quick servants or not, and if you happen to have caster skadi then summer skadi is even less impactful to your account, thing to keep in mind is that the buster buff is a very nice addition but not something you should pull skadi for specifically

[@weisstofall2615]

Love the Okuni love

[@ishigamiryu5689]

Izumo is cute so she's cool

[@uselesshero.official]

She's hard-core feminist though. But given her history there's nothing I can blame her for.

[@МихаилКуликов-о6с]

Summoned her on NA as Well, SO HAPPY! And not because she is very cool at gameplay, I really love her aesthetic, was Very Excited

[@Okuniii11]

She's top-tier in my heart

[@allosaurusmagnum9106]

I worked more overtime for two reasons holiday presents and the double gudaguda banner

[@BoopaKing]

I'm having fun using her in the event, but I'm kind of conflicted since not only did I get NP2 Okuni when she wasn't a target (Nobbu FTW), I also have an NP5 Illya that wasn't a target (CEs, man). I am not 100% on which one to use since on one hand Okuni is a better servant on paper, but on the other hand my Illya is quite a bit stronger and has better support synergy.

[@Jamessavoy]

Rolled for Nobu, got the kabuki performer... Here for the copium.

[@maitaniyama]

I don’t have Skadi, so even though I want Okuni I would rather keep collecting for Christmas for my chance to access quick looping in general. My NP5 Valkyrie looping life calls

[@EnReaper]

I mean I knew *Zanzabaru* was good since I laid my eyes upon it. Who wouldn't want a robot samurai!

[@bapesthief]

Thanks plushie for taking the time to make this!

[@LittleSpecter]

I really really like Izumo's kit, but her banner timings both this year and next year on NA are kinda awful for me.... I'm all out of quartz from Summer Kama, and since I skipped Koyan light I can't afford to pull Izumo. And next year, I'll prob be spent on quartz from S.Skadi, and will have to pick between Izumo and Komahime right after her... I got her on JP through the Destiny Summon, but I don't know how I'm gonna get her on NA :(

[@Xenoks01]

World's first FGO player to look at servants' kits as a whole and judge them based on how they'd perform in practice instead of letting spreadsheets form an opinion for them

[@Ghaleonh41]

Thanks for the review, Plushie! I was looking forward to her simply because she's the first Quick Caster! Definitely want to make sure she's ready to take on Barbatos next January! I have one question: Will Ordeal Call help alleviate the ATK penalties that Archers, Assassins, & Casters suffer from? If so, it can make Servants like Okuni more appealing to people going forward!

[@nknown3982]

Short answer: no

[@chadnarukami4]

Nope, I never forgot. I just don't have Koyan or Oberon. But I used some tickets and got both Achilles and Tamamo Cat to Np2 so it's not all bad.

[@TheAuthorStudios]

there's literally only 2 things i ever hear about okuni and it's a-"damn a quick caster that's new" and b-"pff a quick caster, like that'd ever work lol" neither acutally cared to see what her gameplay does.

[@amari7782]

To be fair casters tend to get overshadowed by the fact that alter egos replace them in most if not all dps situations and bazett comes out right after her and she basically is just izumo with the ability to speed run boss fights and ST farm even tho it’s a meme

[@lordtea]

Ranmaru hots takes video when 😢🥲

[@bobjones4469]

I have her in JP, and while I do use her for Challenge Quests that need a Caster DPS, that doesn't happen very often at all. This is especially true since I'm just lazy and just use a Galatea unkillable setup to cheese instead of trying to figure out the fight.

[@Sombody123]

There's just very little reason to use offensive ST Casters since Assassin bosses are so rare and for everything else you've got superlative Alteregos and Berserkers.

[@jellyboi22]

Plushie coming through with the wiki lesssgoooo

[@yuuschzhie8822]

I've been torn between rolling for okuni or saving for melusine's second banner for the past year...

[@ShiraFuyu2022]

I can at least understand if thye call Sanzang and Charlotte better because they spam easier. But saying Illya is better than her is a stretch. Since the Kid only has 1 Turn Damage Buff and she gimped herself everytime she uses her NP, aure S3 can help but you need Lanling's Mask CC to make it consistent

[@PlushieMistress]

Sanzang doesnt rlly spam easier. Maybe in farming but def not in cqs

[@ShiraFuyu2022]

@@PlushieMistress Fair point. Mismatched Deck is a pain to work with

[@morsayxd]

Sanzang do not spam easier and is worse , in fact as a dps she is worse than illya with all her buffs , corday is iffy , but honestly i say okuni better

[@Flaris]

She gimps herself most of the time. Pretending the debuff immunity skill isn't there doesn't stop it from working. Especially when you can make it consistent.

[@morsayxd]

@@Flaris furthermore , illya has 2 survival ways and np gain amps who synergize well with her triple art deck , she has a heal too , it is easy to see how well aged , now she easily outclasses sanzang

[@Gabe-sp8ml]

I'm so fucking lucky I got my 650 days sq reward as I used everything ti get a bunch of nothing but those extra sq finally gave me Okuni, She's cool AF and her design is beatiful

[@lordtea]

Ranmaru the budget looper when 🥲

[@pedrorosa9893]

Great help man

[@фанаткасаши-з7д]

Ngl when I saw her skills for the first time I thought that those are some lame skills but she's so fun to use and she has one cool design

[@Draconated]

I'll always prefer Xuanzang since the utility of 80% NP charge just makes her so easy to use and hit hard instantly, but it's interesting they finally tried to make a quick caster.

[@squirrelbusken-cv4wy]

Good because I accidentally got 4 copies of her...

[@paperskinnedart5727]

She's cute and an oddity as a quick caster so of course I rolled her. Now to farm a million gold caster gems....

[@t_raywen8750]

I want her so bad but she is sonexpensive right now noooooo. Thanks for the vid plush!

[@LaughingComedian]

Did a single multi trying to get some event ce's and managed to grab her.

[@theopeneyes]

I was originally not going to roll for her but then I realised I didn't have a proper dps Caster in my account, it's gonna feel nice fighting assassin bosses that don't feel like I'm tickling them between doing AoE NPs and hoping my Casters don't get crit or NP'd to death before they can finish the last break bar.

[@morsayxd]

okuni is hella strong , it is crazy how peoples sleep on her when she dogwalk both illya and sanzang , thx for making this video

[@Flaris]

Probably because of the alternative classes discussion that was avoided here. Being the top dog of casters...doesn't mean much. Single target is a rare need in a game mostly about farming. And a single target caster is an even rarer need. Okuni is pure extravagance. Great, but if you already have Illya/Sanzang you're probably just fine and even without them you probably have other options.

[@morsayxd]

@@Flaris that is sadly true , a lot of times aoe just do the job just fine , nero caster exist rn and she can pretty much overshadow them in a lot of case , i guess they can find their use in multi core farming , but again , nero caster W koyan take care of the node configuration problem by ignoring the need to have 3 ennemies and caster nero do enough dmg

[@muratticugaratti1571]

She doesnt dogwalk Sanzang lol. That 80% battery is unbeatable

[@morsayxd]

@@muratticugaratti1571 80% battery doesnt save her , okuni is a better spammer , is more versatile as a dps , has better survival and hits harder and is overall more consistent , 80% only make her more relevant in farming and honestly circe already exist for that with a bigger battery

[@muratticugaratti1571]

@@morsayxd do you know how hard is it to get Circe to np4? Circe needs np4 to match np1 Sanzang. Just because she has big battery doesnt mean they are interchangeable. And its not like Sanzang is bad for DPS? You can argue Okuni is better but you are out of your mind if you think she is far better

[@shauqiharris2772]

I don't get Lancer Ryouma but I got her and she's definitely a best of GudaGuda 6. Sumire Uesaka is underrated.

[@UggoBass]

I would have rolled for Okuni if Himiko didn't clear me out again and still didn't get her again Finally got Ibuki though. This year's been great and I hope to begin next with Koyan dark so need to save everything.

[@muratticugaratti1571]

One thing Sanzang has over any other caster ST is her 80% battery. Slap that with 20% append and she can basically use BG or non battery bonus CEs for free. For DPS i would take Okuni over her any other day but when it comes to farming i feel like Sanzang is just superior

[@adrastos8401]

"Sanzang has over any other caster ST is her 80% battery" ST 5 star. Medea has 150% battery. And even if you don't consider her as a ST because NP modifiers, Circe exists.

[@muratticugaratti1571]

@@adrastos8401 Yes and Circe needs np4 to reach np1 Sanzang. My bad i forgot 1 damn 4 star lol.

[@flareless6713]

You forgot another thing in that she is perma and you can NP+ her, so not even needing BG to farm. Tho even when run it you use dbl Koyan for another and taunt+gain for Oberon for 3 full turn of NPs on CQs. She is also really good on event farming 90+ nodes that have single wave 2 assassin/zerks.

[@GS_CCC]

No? What she has is the aoe atk up and gain. The extra charge doen't do that much to help in the content you will use STs the most since oberon already gives 70%. It can save you of getting append for farming, so if there are nodes with 2 ST waves it may help in that event.

[@muratticugaratti1571]

@@GS_CCC wtf does Oberon have to do with Sanzang? If you read my comment youd realize why 80% battery is important

[@PsuNotPsu]

Thank u plushie

[@Flaris]

Good to give credit to disregarded servants. Though honestly I'm more interested in giving Illya some credit after she's thrown under the bus for it. In the end, Okuni's in a poor class for offensive servants, with a card type most aren't using right now, and is coming out after an insane last few months of colossal banners for some truly amazing servants. Can say she's one of them...but she's one of the last of them to come out.The resources are drained for many. Okuni is really good for her role. But she may simply be a luxury many can't afford right now. She's cute. But that's just not enough for me to roll right now. I'm in a good spot, my offensive caster quota is already too much for me (somehow got NP5 Illya) and I just don't use that many quick servants. I'd get her and then do nothing. So best to pass and let her fans roll more for her.

[@NetzachEnjoyer]

Not gonna summon for her, but she looks nice.

[@Yami-no-Raiden]

It took me an entire pack and then some to get a copy. Unfortunately, I will not be going for NP2. (Even the 5☆ CE took just as long to snag)

[@Rosemaryalter2711]

She maybe on of the best ST in the game if Bazett doesn't show up

[@squirrelbusken-cv4wy]

Good to hear that she is not useless. Because I pick up 4 copies while trying to get just one copie of bruserker nobu.

[@hasanwahyudi5011]

Thats why i love her and i need her in my chaldea because i lack DPS caster. And after hundreds SQ worth pull, she isnt came

[@thewhyzer]

Got her NP2 last night with the 10 Winter campaign tix :)

[@janbrassat4726]

thanks Plushy! You actually sold her on me. rly love her playstyle. do you think np2 is nercessary for super recollection quests or 90++? or does np1 cut it too?

[@PlushieMistress]

NP2 never hurts but for boss killing if you don’t insist on min turns np1 should be alright

[@lordtea]

​@@PlushieMistressranmaru the nobu lover appreciation video when 🥲

[@Xrona42]

Eh, if only she were an aoe arts np or at least a aoe buster np. And since she’s just a st quick np, it’s no wonder that everyone forgot about her.

[@kiritsugu_hamburger7953]

She avoided me like crazy and right in my last 10x i got Ryoma

[@solitare4602]

I just YOLO'd NP1 Okuni, so now I'm wondering when I'd ever use her. I already have NP2 Melt and MHXA, so I guess I'd use Okuni in longer battles where I'm worried about Melt and MHXA exploding from a random hit? She's probably my best anti-Demonic Servant now too. Having her bonus damage tied to her NP is way better than on a one turn skill like Caster Shuten (or Orion and Himiko). She's definitely better than Rama, Danzo, and Touta. Okuni's cards feel decent, but her skill cooldowns are terrible. I don't care that she can reduce her cooldowns by 1. It just makes using her skills really complicated. What if you have no cards? Or if you have cards but no stars? Which of her skills do you use? Do you waste her cooldown reduction? Personally, I feel like her cooldown reduction is actually a demerit. If you got rid of it, they'd reduce her base cooldowns by 1 anyway to 6/4/6. How often is the targetable nature going to be useful? Almost never. Their balancing around cooldown reduction mechanics is always terrible. It's led to Arts servants getting inflated cooldowns simply because Tamamo exists. I think players would like Okuni more if she had 6/4/6 cooldowns in the first place. She still wouldn't be OP if she got her cooldown reduction too. She may be the best ST DPS Caster, but that's not saying much. There are a lot of better options for dealing with most single Assassins. Okuni may have the defensive advantage in longer fights, but Quick isn't good in longer fights anyway.

[@Venax91124]

finally i got her with 10single target!!!!now i can save for Taira

[@Rosemaryalter2711]

Anyone can do a solo so it's nothing special But solo in 1T and without meta support, few people can do it

[@roxas4838]

Nice

[@qkheb]

i just get spooked by altria yesterday when rolling okuni,get 5s good but yeah idk.....

[@someoneoutthere4844]

I got her randomly on a CE roll for the event but damn... Does she pack a punch as a DPS.

[@bayunurfahri6543]

I really like her, i grail her to lv 120

[@Nearnface]

wowoowow

[@sudoo6987]

My only problem with izumo is that get banner comes right before melussy😭😭

[@robinhood6077]

I wanted Lancer Ryouma when he dropped But with Perceval being so fantastic and Ryouma not future proofing well…he’s looking less exciting, especially at NP1. How’s Izumo been for the 90++ nodes we’ve seen so far?

[@phelopatirabdel-malak554]

Now I’m very conflicted. I don’t want to waste my SQ but I need a strong ST caster but I already have Xuazang. What do I do?

[@baltstop2702]

You'll be just fine with Sanzang

[@justplaying8265]

i spent 300sq on this banner after saving but i didn't get anything no 4star and 3 of event 4star ce and 1 5 star every time i rolled it depressing and depressing

[@mny2102]

Got her np3 while rolling for Mori coins to fully max everything up And a not summer nobu Wast it worth guys? I need answer

[@kubarunetwork7513]

i skip ookuni need to save for melusine banner. already have melt and illya so I dont really need her

[@policavosn3469]

I did a 10 summon, just for "fun" on her banner.... I got her 2 times on 1 10 pull, on the first slot and 3rd slot. I was pissed. I wanted Taira, could not get her, but got this girl twice. Oh well.

[@enriquejerez18]

Illya have same power like Izumo no Okuni?

[@naotohex]

Whats the music used in the vid?

[@kotominussy9754]

Do morgan

[@dnnisamn6886]

Any F2p support for her? I only have Waver which I use constantly

[@flareless6713]

No her only support is Summer Skadi which comes out next year, not even OG Skadi helps her that much. You really only got Loli Vinci but she won't help that much.

[@mr.soystein7849]

The only f2p Quick support right now is Alexander.

[@lhv2k]

She's definitely the strongest ST Caster no question. I think the reason most people forget her is because they look at bad damage spreadsheet that's not only misleading, but also popular and thus fooled most of the community for a long time, and she happened to look underwhelming in it, which is far from the truth. Kinda sad for such a long running game, yet good TC is still rare and mostly unpopular. Anyway, the truth is, even in terms of just NP dps alone, Okuni is by far the strongest damaging ST Caster, not even close. Don't even compare the Buster SSRs with her, they're nowhere near in terms of damage. Assume standard rotation against 1 enemy, account for NP damages of both lowest and minimal ramp up, optimal meta supports and non-MLB BG, Okuni would outdamage Sanzang by a whopping ~33% at NP1, and 47.5% at NP5 due to the scaling, so the only thing Sanzang can hang with her is the 80% battery for easier farming, that's it. Illya is so much worse, one of the worst ST SSR dps in the game for damage, despite looking very good in misleading spreadsheet. At NP1 Okuni already outdamages Illya by 59%, and 77% at NP5, it's not even real, NP1 Okuni is stronger than NP5 Illya already, and that's assuming Illya doesn't get hit by her own self atk debuff, because if she does, the gap is even wider. Okuni is also stronger than both when factoring in her better crits, but that' depends on facecard RNG so harder to simulate. Not to mention, this is not even counting her niche, or her better loop that will widen the damage gap further in a more expanded rotation. The only one I may see an argument for is Charlotte, but that's only because of how much better Art team is and how insanely high damage ceiling Castoria provides by easily spamming NPs. For a single burst turn, Charlotte is about equal to Okuni with minimal ramp up, but she edges out if you stack more than 1 Castoria NP, something that happen much easier than Skadi, and in that case even if accounting for the non Skill-seal downtime, Charlotte's dps is still a bit better (~2.3%), but that's only for standard minimal rotation, for a more expanded tri-loop rotation Okuni becomes way better as she ramps more, and not to mention the niche and crits, but Charlotte does loop better and her Art team is also safer and easier to use, so it's a trade off. Personally I don't like Charlotte due to her gimmick only last 1 turn, but Art team does have huge merits over the others, though I would say Okuni is way better still. The comparison with Alter Ego is indeed more interesting, quick calc putting her quite even with Melt, but yeah that's another story altogether.

[@joshhossini3402]

As much as I like okuni, this is huge cope/exaggeration. 1) For most farming contexts, sanzang is way better, because usually there is at least one wave with multiple enemies. This means you need a aoe dps, so you cant bring 3 supports for okuni. Sanzang's 80 battery makes her much more versatile in this case. Also, if there is one st wave, then okuni needs an external 30np, eg castoria s1 whereas sanzang doesnt, and if she did get the same castoria s1, she outdamages okuni by >10%. And sanzang outdamages okuni on self buffs. 2) sanzang has a stronger 1t nuke, with supports. Idk where you got those numbers from, but for np1 dps with l1 bg, 1k fou, sanzang with vvo does ~10% more damage than okuni with double summer skadi and oberon, even more if the quick resist down is resisted. At np5 with the same setup, sanzang is still slightly stronger. I will say that without oberon, okuni does more 1t damage, and okuni has better crits, which I have not considered as they are not that useful in farming (and 90% of the game is farming). So okuni is probably better at bosses, but to say that sanzang only has a better battery is hugely misleading when her damage is also comparable/better. Also I didnt calc ilya bc I dont have her and I cba lol.

[@johan3116]

Don't care, np5 120 anyways

[@ChaoticVice777]

While it's understandable to check upon the Caster competition for simplicity, I think it was quite unfair to compare her to XZ due to the different roles. For farming, XZ offers Charisma and the ability to wear any CE, while Okuni's ramp doesn't work if the enemy's defeated. Okuni should have been compared with other classes on neutral situations, where ironically, this was where the Caster 0.9 multiplier could rear up. There wasn't evidence within the video demonstrating how she remains good after the three turns (Arts has the clear advantage for longer fights and Quick lends itself to being currently better at min turns rather than general CQ clearing and/or farming). These scenarios amongst other concerns like the one turn of 100% CRIT being more problematic to time compared to three turns of 50% CRIT are why I hesitate to call her "secret top tier DPS". Ease of use and versatility matter.

[@aitamasanada72]

the reason why nobody is using her 1st we already have alter ego who fill the role better 2nd caster has low multiplier and 3rd after this, new character is coming. so if u like her go for it but personally imma saving for future ahead character.

[@helltaker6865]

OCUNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYY 😭😭😭

[@naiRISE766]

no way

[@killugon]

Okuni did solid 3m sexy dps It's just Chen Gong is free and did 2m AOE.

[@user-tb4zj8sp1k]

I mean at the end of the day, she's still a caster dps. MHXA deals more damage to assassins than Okuni lol.

[@ВасилийШилов-ч2г]

I do not understand why no one mentioned Shuten caster as compassion to Izumo. Shuten is a solid st caster with free np5 and solid crits, but for some reason we have Illiya for compassion with Izumo

[@nknown3982]

She might be good but not worth pulling for, kintoki is up so just get him instead

[@avalonialefae]

Kintoki is great for farming but he’s otherwise shit for harder content