PoE 2 - How to Find MORE Citadels | Atlas Guide

[@Lolcohol]

PS. To all the sceptics: I've found another 4 Citadels since making this video so it's definitely working for me. A couple places I pointed out as potentially having Citadels DID have Citadels. Maybe there's a way to figure out the exact pattern more accurately, but yeah, I'm finding tons following the method I shared here. And if you want to watch a video on why I think Crafting sucks, check out this video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4WsgH15q8R7mNU

[@memeconnect4489]

when more updates for the Grenadier Mercenary :) also thanks for all the videos

[@Lolcohol]

@@memeconnect4489 Hey :) I'm on a Monk now but I might go back to it when I'm done with this character!

[@Arccanos]

My second character has been steadily kept at 94 for over a week and MFing. I've primarily been following the coast, am over 100 waystones away from the center, been chasing towers, have completed hundreds of T15s and at least 100 T16 waystones, targeting corruption zones, etc. I didn't find a single until yesterday. If I was on one character and used my rarity for character power instead to prevent deaths, I would very easily have been over level 97 (maybe even 98) before seeing a single Citadel. When it did show up yesterday, it was a pair of Iron Citadels that spawned right next to each other. They now both say failed despite having been fully cleared. I'm about 8 screens away from those now and none have spawned since. I have another friend with two characters in the 90s and two characters in the 80s and he hasn't seen a single citadel. Another friend had 3 spawn within the first few hours of mapping. Something is wrong.

[@memeconnect4489]

@@Lolcohol i hope you come back to merc grenadier :D

[@Misho_the_exile]

The feeling for looking for those Citadels is the worst I have felt playing POE for 10 years. we need an indicateor of the closest citadels of each time like 100%

[@NhuQuynh-nv7fp]

Yea Johnathan lied and said this game is causal friendly … how can the testers play this and thinks it’s ok?

[@TossedSalad69]

I genuinely think they should revert it to how Poe 1 maps work

[@Lolcohol]

Yeah I really struggled finding them early on too and it was very frustrating. It has been a lot easier deeper into the Atlas and following this but I remember being extremely annoyed by it too

[@sHake2BeNiCe]

⁠and I think that's the whole point. You go suuuuper deep into one direction then spread out. That's what ziz, alk, steel, fubu did

[@Misho_the_exile]

@@sHake2BeNiCe you follow the shores and the corruptions, this works for me, not the super deep part, this does nothing for me.

[@Tracerbullet328]

300+ maps. No citadels

[@dacco9414]

Same. 200+h played. 4 toons to lv84, no citadels found. Nor any unique maps, vendors and any other cool point of interests. 😂😅😢

[@gapingpeanut]

You have to complete your waystone quests from Doryani first

[@Tracerbullet328]

@@gapingpeanutI’ve completed them a while ago and am running nothing but T15/16 maps

[@sethbrune63]

Same for me. Its ridiculous

[@hilding2063]

240 hours two lvl 89 no citadels

[@RamzaBehoulve]

They probably need to add a map indicator once you enter within a certain radius of a citadel to tell you in which direction to go. Preferably a radius big enough so you can't go 50+ maps in a direction without finding one. To be fair, they could do it through a visual cue, such as increasing corruption on the ground.

[@JakSays]

I've only found 2 out of maybe 200+ maps Both citadels were inland near no water

[@dddaaa6965]

there's also a video of someone clicking on a mountain with no map icon or anything and getting an iron citadel prompt, apparently they can bug out and spawn INSIDE the mountains where you can't even see them or their node lmao...

[@panzerswineflu]

I had a normal map that barely showed a portion of icon so I wouldn't doubt it

[@Lolcohol]

Pls DM me screenshots on Discord! Would be great to get more samples :)

[@mr.demacia989]

Me also 1 citadel not near water at all. Also at a minimum, 200+ maps running

[@liiiinder]

@@Lolcohol what discord?

[@Cenzonttle400]

Finall i ve been waiting for someone to tell me how to find citadels and it had to be my good old LOLCOHOL :DD TY

[@nextgen3ric]

If they solidify the spawns to have both more clues as well as a tad more guidance visible from the overworld map (as to what that could look like: larger biomes, larger volume/expansion of the "outskirts/village" assets to surrounding area, higher chance in specific biomes, specific tower arrangements visible from the fog of war, etcpp), then I can safely call the atlas a promising implementation. If they lean into the "wayfinding" aspect, then as you progress and learn throughout the endgame, you also get better and more consistent at finding the keys. But there needs to be some safeguarding measures or "bad luck" protection implemented if they just won't spawn. Because as it stands brute-forcing spawns in PoE 2 is infinitely harder than in PoE 1, since it is not up to how juiced you make an individual map, but how many individual maps you travel through. And that kind of feels awful, constantly yoyo-ing from low to high tier maps and back again just to feel like you're making any progress.

[@ridic27235]

If you're after farming currency, path straight into fog until you find desert biome. I farm Copper Citadels regularly for the 200+ exalt fragment drops. I can usually find a copper citadel per hour if I focus on quick clearing and direct pathing.

[@Frostshokula]

Even if you can find them, the method to find them faster goes against their juicing model. Having to choose between the two sucks.

[@Lolcohol]

Agreed yeah. It is weird wanting to explore but then also being incentivised to stay around a tower to clear maps you've juiced

[@discrep]

It's not that contradictory. Focusing on finding citadels is a bossing strategy vs. juiced mapping.

[@wisconsincrhunter5614]

I loterally found one completely camouflaged inside of a mountain, i only noticed it had to be there cause i noticed the maps names changed yo necropolis, cenotes, penitentiary, etc otherwise completely hidden under the mountain

[@karatefylla]

another pattern that stands out to me is that the copper one seem to be adjacent to deserts while the vaal and iron are either planes or forests it's hard to tell because the buildings change the visuals of hte biome.

[@G00R00]

level 95 and never found one, will try your tips

[@TadloS4life]

Lvl 93 also never found one. But in my case I didn't really tried to find one. I was just farming my maps.

[@NhuQuynh-nv7fp]

Stick to go straight south, east or west don’t do surrounding maps until later

[@Lolcohol]

Let me know how it goes!

[@TadloS4life]

@@Lolcohol I did found my 1st citadel today. Like you said, I just mostly followed water and grabbed towers wherever I could.

[@Lolcohol]

Thanks for the follow up :)

[@rekrn12345]

I don't think that is really definitive enough to point at. Only thing I can say that is probably the primary factor is the distance from the start point. My first citadel was in the middle of a desert with no water or mountains anywhere near by. I don't think there was corruption either. However it could be possible that each player gets a different seed for map generation as all our atlas's are different. Would be interesting to see if people could go in and compare all the atlases from a large sample size to try and figure out how the game is generating the layout. If there is any actual pattern to it. Like most procedural things as I mentioned above there is probably some random Seed given to each player. With millions of players there is bound to be some repeats I think.

[@caseyvinterella9514]

I have no clue what citadels are new to Poe. What do they do?

[@ChantzRisse]

He explains it in the beginning of the video, you need a fragment from each of the three citadels which you can then use all 3 fragments to fight the pinnacle boss at the Burning Monolith. The citadels require a T15 waystone to complete them, also.

[@lincolnjohnson4428]

My problem is different. Everytime I fight a citadel boss.... my game crashes. Happened 3 citadels in a row.

[@urgatorb8]

I think near the water is the clue. The other “clues” seem to be a stretch from what you were showing. Good tips though. I’m anxious to see if it works today. I’m at 200 maps and no citadels.

[@Lolcohol]

Let me know if it helps!

[@EldenSaul]

[@MrClindberg]

I was barely 4 screens away, so that number is definitely incorrect

[@EldenSaul]

@@MrClindberg closest one on my atlas is 8 screens away Guess there's some variance, or maybe something else that triggers, like procedural generation.

[@karatefylla]

I found 2 today, one was 1 map away from water and the other was 3 maps inland from that one.

[@anathema1828]

Nice work on the video!

[@Lolcohol]

Thanks, anathema :) Nice to see you still around!

[@alxk3995]

I didn't find the monolith until like lvl 80 because I pathed out top right from the start and it was bottom left. All that time I had the quest to talk to doryani but he had nothing to say. 😅 There are many things to improve upon in the new atlas. Zooming out more, beeing able to search for specific things, highlighting things like citadels more (why does it only look like a bunch of dark tents ?), are just the first things that come to mind.

[@MrClindberg]

The talk to doryani is probably because you're on your second character. My first one doesn't have it, but my second 90 has it as well ;)

[@siwadejpumee7399]

i just found a citidel and wow it's exactly like what you said -near water -hear tower

[@OLApplin]

"/played" of 4 days 6h on my main character and haven't found a single citadel yet. I'll try following coasts see if it helps! Big thanks

[@DJcs187]

8d17h and just found my first so...good luck

[@Razguzipogzui]

Found my first citadel after 300+ maps, no water near it in center of mainland.

[@Razguzipogzui]

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[@possum666possum]

Every map is not so far from water, a little bit inland, has a tower nearby and there's some corruption. This is not indication of anything but just averaged description of the whole "atlas". From hundreds of maps I've seen a couple dozens of citadels. And there was nothing special about their position on the map besides being at least 5 screens away from the start.

[@BoKruse]

Exactly. He's just describing what my map looks like all over.

[@Lolcohol]

Maybe try it since you've only found 2? I've found far more following this pattern.

[@possum666possum]

@@Lolcohol I said I've found dozens, not 2 ._.

[@Lolcohol]

Reading issue - classic PoE player moment. Pls DM me screenshots of their locations on Discord :)

[@try_fail_repeat]

i found the iron citadel first, died in it.... then i tried again a few days later (with a new character) but it wouldn't let me put a map in. when i click on it .nothing happens (i know it needs T15) and now i can't find it anymore on my atlas. either i'm going crazy or they despawn somehow?

[@limeone387]

If you die you need to find a new one according to other sources on the internet. Brutal eh?

[@itami3536]

idk about this, I found 4 citadels so far and they all have been inlands, very far away from water and 3/4 have been on mountains

[@Lolcohol]

Can you send me screenshots? :o I still haven't found one properly inland? Found another one today following this pattern

[@itami3536]

@@Lolcohol yup, I'll send it to you on discord

[@Nelfdruid]

ive been to all directions, probably 500-600 maps in, ive found 1 citadel and its impossible to reach. I dont know what to do right now but i guess ill try your stuff out

[@Hejti_]

Behind Eyes Gaming had a video about Citadels yesterday and he did connect it with the corruption.

[@Lolcohol]

I'll check it out! Maybe he has some more ideas that can help hammer down the exact indication of where they are

[@valsacar1]

​@@Lolcoholmy guild are all finding more after using T15 maps on towers

[@discrep]

@@valsacar1 Interesting possibility as the general strategy has been to toss a low tier waystone in towers. Question is do objects on the map spawn as fog is revealed or are they already spawned underneath? We know for sure the towers themselves are pre-spawned because we can see them through the fog. It would be a bit unusual if everything aside from the towers are dynamically spawned.

[@tontonsatan3093]

main problem besides finding citadels is finding where the fuck you are on the atlas if you run a substantial amount of maps, it's a mess and takes ages to load when you went far and in all directions, I think this design cannot withstand the test of time, they have to make it so you can see where you have been more easily, say, if you want to save a citadel for later for example, you won't be able to find it again after 600 maps, it's a pain to see shit through such a big atlas

[@leonardoterra4905]

sorry, but whats a citadel? and why we're looking for them? i'm new here

[@nickkonusundacokhass]

ATLAS MINIMAP PLS GGG

[@jonathanniehaus8358]

I feel like it has to do with cleansing corruption from towers and the areas and looking for those key points hits temple etc

[@Stauderbear]

im level 96 with hundreds of maps completed and 0 citadels found...the system is just insanely bad

[@LaymensLament]

lvl 91 andsame. i did focus on mechanics and juicing over making pace tho

[@NhuQuynh-nv7fp]

They will fix it don’t worry

[@craigdavid2162]

I'm 93 and same. Thought they just hadn't put them in yet lol. Will use this tip though, haven't been near water much.

[@skevoid]

Well that's a lot of superstitious thinking. Most maps are 'near' coastline they way you're defining near, most maps are near corruption, most maps are near towers, so that's indicated absolutely nothing about where citadels spawn. The only things here that are valid is that they're unlikely to be close to the starting location, and you can often see the small buildings before the citadel itself are visible.

[@TonySantolaria]

I believe all of that is hocus pocus indeed except the one about them being far away, no proof about it but that makes sense

[@oguzsafauysal5028]

Im probably about 500-600 maps in , only 2 citadel found so far , i dont really go deep delve-like , i juice 3-4 towers and run 20-25 maps so maybe its less because of that. Anyway 1 of them is like you show near water second map away from water , but other one i found is literally like in the middle of forest no where near water. So 50/50 or boloney dunno ?

[@Lolcohol]

Weird I have found any far away from water D: I'll keep exploring and refine this so it's less baloney, more science . Thanks for the feedback!

[@Artjoooom]

On top of Corrupted towers are laying dead people on the ground in different directions. Maybe its a hint

[@Lolcohol]

We've been investigating this too and taking lots of screenshots haha

[@beyyugi92]

When you say on top what do you mean?

[@Artjoooom]

@@beyyugi92 where you can complete your tower

[@bappo2693]

Whenever I look at my atlas, I can’t even tell where I am on it. Everything looks the same.

[@MrClindberg]

I've found 5 stone citadels and 3 iron citadels (0 copper) NONE of them have been near water, so I'm not too sure about this one Loco.. :/ We have to be careful not to spread false information (in before anyone starts raging on me, his thumbnail literally shows "THERE'S A PATTERN")

[@Lolcohol]

Please DM me screenshots on Discord! This could be a bizarre coincidence where both notahead and I had them always by water, but I'd love to see your layouts so we can figure it out properly :) When we were investigating on stream, everyone else in chat seemed to concur that theirs were in similar layouts so I'm not worried about this being misinfo, but rather that it might not be the full picture

[@nickkonusundacokhass]

The whole map is already tower-mountain-coastline 😂

[@fearlessdumb0]

2 citadels. Really hurts, I've played a lot :(

[@setcamper]

No wonder I haven't found a citadel yet.

[@xjackietranx]

one level 91, one level 93. Zero citadel.

[@isabellaveldhuys2040]

150+ maps 0 citadels kinda cringe i hope this method will land me some juicy citadells thx for sharing!

[@LittleRadicalThinker]

Ya we need a freaking hidden patten in the atlas.

[@rktmwow2170]

SO ure telling me that citadels are near water, mountains, corruption or towers... wow ty now i know how to find citadels

[@Lolcohol]

No, AND, not OR. There's a big difference. Try it and come back - I found four today following this method

[@sHake2BeNiCe]

Lvl 94 and lvl 89, over 700 maps, over 500 div farmed, my atlas is huuuuge. Like 10 untrained paradises NOT A SINGLE CITADEL. 100% bugs going on.

[@Lolcohol]

That's wild. That has to be a bug yeah :(

[@renediffie]

I've also found most of my seers near the coast.

[@86TrapHouse]

Untainted Aswell

[@Lolcohol]

Same. My Seers are always on the coast

[@majed2488]

I had a citadel at my map start location. RNG is a butch

[@7icecvf]

Hey Lolcohol, don't forget to protect your account.

[@paulamblard3836]

i don't think it is true. the code is probably just something like : "place citadel randomly. if the citadel is in water or on mountain : instead place it at the nearest valide position."

[@NhuQuynh-nv7fp]

Keep going south, east or west and you will eventually find one is what I found

[@Foronymus]

Im level 95 and did over 300 Maps, went to every direction and didnt finde a single one, anyone else having this problem?

[@balazsfenyes3880]

There is water everywhere, every 5th map is a tower and the map is 70% mountains. I usually find your vids educational but this theory feels like Conspiracy Theories, The thing is that it's total random and some ppl get a citadel or two every day but most didnt find a single one in a hundred or 2 hundred hours farming maps. This citadel RNG on pair with the hardcore system of only able to fight the endgame pinnacle bosses once is such a downer to me that i just stopped playing the game after i made my character into farming T16 without a problem.

[@Lolcohol]

But how many maps have mountains and water and corruption and towers? That's the point - its not "or" it's "and"

[@balazsfenyes3880]

@@Lolcohol The thing is all of these are theories, while streamers play 12+ hours a day many play 2-3 at MAX and dont have time for such RNG bulls*t. I have 100+ hours in mapping and didnt see a single citadel. and it's not just me, my friends who has even more didnt see one either and we just go in one direction into the end of the world, others go in a circle. 90% of ppl didnt find a single citadel and they are just bored of farming T15-16 maps on fantastic layouts like Augury or Vaal Factory, or me at least. I will just try out other classes and ignore this Citadel at all because it doesnt worth the time.

[@Lolcohol]

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, the citadel spawn rate is super shit and buggy right now and I'm sure it'll be addressed :) but this vid is more to help you choose your direction with maybe a little more purpose than just praying you find one. I have found 7 since making this video following this method

[@balazsfenyes3880]

@@Lolcohol What Doryani said is that the area is corrupted or the towers are corrupted, so it might be around a tower with corruption, the rest i think is just random.

[@hexbite7630]

I've found alot of citadels and all of them are near or in water

[@maizena7646]

7:11 pick a what now

[@dred8616]

Haha

[@justjay3750]

really wish i could zoom out further

[@isitme1234]

4:57 no shit ....😂😂

[@theMisadventure]

yeah then you finally found one and the Boss Kills you in One Hit and you need to search another 1-4 Days for one XD So Sad XD

[@HuhWhatHuhwhatHuh]

So apparently corpses will all point in the direction of the Citadels? I literally just did my 1st map so don’t know if corpses are even there but I saw someone saying something to that effect in Global.

[@Lolcohol]

I was actually testing this theory a few days ago with a friend and we took dozens of screenshots. While it sometimes seems to correlate, it feels too inconsistent to completely rely on. It's still a possible clue though!

[@KungKeni]

Why does it matter when i cant kill a map boss? 😂

[@dario9368]

This citadels exit??? lol over 150h never see

[@Sey318]

DIVINE POWWWAAAAAHHH

[@hellsickcunnt3953]

Im gonna start flinging shit like a monkey, if i dont find one soon, the gameplay loop is getting super stale and the maps with no modifiers on them are trash.

[@GoatKnife]

What a nothingburger of a video. There is water everywhere. There are towers everywhere. There is corruption everywhere. Provide value if you're gonna try to farm views

[@Cryttanz]

Cool video, was excited to test these theories too bad I just got hacked and lost all my currency. That's enough PoE 2 for me.

[@fade9004]

i'm not a fan of this poe 2 atlas at all.

[@Slicky1988]

800+ hours and finaly in act 3 , why is that little timmy !? , becous the game is all most unplayable since the patch 1 week ago . From 340 fps to 40 fps with stutters and lagg and game freezes on a 4k pc . 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Lolcohol]

Wut

[@Slicky1988]

@Lolcohol exactly , thats what i was thinking 🤔 😂. 30% of the player base could not play becous of the last patch. 🙄 2 weeks trying to fix it , 4x new windows , bios update , chipset drivers . Nothing workd. Many poeple have this problem. I hope.thej will fix this .

[@lasaboteur]

I think the "wut" was referring to your hyperbolic clams. The game has only been out for 20 days, which is 480 hours total, not 800+

[@Slicky1988]

@lasaboteur yayayayaaa shhhh little timmy every one knows its not 800 . But i know i try to fix this shitty performance for all most 2 weeks im fuking my head over this unplayable game.

[@beyyugi92]

Also, there are lots of players not having issues. Get better hardware