Poe 3 25 - Divination card faming with abyss 100 Map test

[@WL-vb4fn]

I made a miscalculation regarding rate for nimis card, Im so sorry for this one. As far as i know the rate for nimis compare to dapper prodigy card is 1 : 240 I thought 240 x 3 is 720, i got 738 dapper prodigy in 100 maps, but this is wrong because that 738 is using pilfering scarab so the correct calculation should be 240x2 (because of pilfering)/average dapper prodigy which in my case is 7.38 and the result should be 1 nimis card (will drop x2 because of pilfering) every 65 maps once again, Im so sorry for this mistake.

[@JaniJhonny]

Yes this seems the right calc. Just ran 100 maps, 708 dapper and 2 nimis card. But i still made a rly good profit. 2 reliquary key, 13 raw div, 13 valdo, some base items that sold for ~30div, some eldritch currency ~10div, 39 abomination which is 31 div. And some other currencys and items. The profit is good but the farm is soo boring, the 100 maps burnt me. GL

[@Toxickys]

Nah calculation is wrong, you get nimis card every 170 dapper prodigy not 240 because 2403 / 14 = 171

[@Eqnotalent]

⁠​⁠@@Toxickysthe new div card weighting is out. Based on your method, 3851/16. Those are weighting of 3.25 based on recent data of all the cards

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@JaniJhonny yeah this is not for everyone. thank you for trying it out and share the result.

[@xenoaurora]

Not trying to bash the strat, ive been running it and the valdos, raw divines, voidborns are really nice, but with these updated drop rates you are saying you got 5x2 nimis cards in a sample of 100 maps, when the average is 1x2 in 65 maps?

[@Delicja469]

Love that reference of this card to blue oyster cult song of the same name and its graphic

[@Nothatez]

Holy shit your spreadsheet is a paradise man ty so much

[@WL-vb4fn]

@Nothatez Thank you!

[@TheTanelChannel]

I did like 50 Residences with same atlas and scarabs (not the best altars) until seer spawned, then did around 20 jungle valleys and got 2x Nimis cards 28DIV each. Will do more testing in jungle valley now!

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@TheTanelChannel lol congrats man

[@kidpwnz]

you are lucky. i did this 150 maps for nimis and apothecary cards. 0 luck... spent the last 3-4 days doing only this. 85%-115% maps, all this scarabs, deli maps... unreal, never felt so unmotivated to actually play the game.

[@TheTanelChannel]

@@kidpwnz yea I did like 80 maps more, never found one again lol. Now doing only T17-s, kinda sucks cause now we are forced into these T17-s and cannot pick another layout to run.

[@albertwang6066]

very informative as always😀

[@Coss791]

Farming for Nimis or Apothecary since i could after league start. Zero casrd this league for me. Loosing the incentive. I take every possible altar, do abysses after taking the altars ta maximise the quant. I got more raw divines from the campaigns on three characters than from juiced maps (except for one when I found the chance to find divine orb altar). Bad luck for me. But I love the build in the video, I have unshamedly copied it, though with couple substantial tweaks.

[@jeffsupersaiyan]

Zero divination cards dropped with your setup from the link in the description :(

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@jeffsupersaiyan i dont even know its possible to not drop a single div card

[@pretzl84]

Great vid! One question though: What's the reasoning behind not chiseling the maps? Is that more beneficial than adding the extra quant?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@pretzl84 i do chisel them but im using maven chisel

[@Dargen0708]

@LLYD Thank you for the video! I have one question about your atlas. You and many other streamers use Atlas Keystone "Endless Tide", it makes beyond portals have 50% LESS Merging Radius (also can't spawn beyond bosses). And at the same time you select all small nodes to INCREASE Merging Radius (44% increase total). Please, explain why? Because you don't want to face beyond boss? I don't understand :(

[@WL-vb4fn]

@Dargen0708 Yes, primary reason because we dont want the beyond boss. When beyond boss come out, you kill it, beyond will stop spawning at the map, most of the strat is using beyond for extra density, so thats why endless tide, and the small node just try to compensate for the downside of endless tide

[@Dargen0708]

@@WL-vb4fn i didn't know about that, thanx a lot for explaining!!

[@Subxenox15]

Idk whats going on, but the last 5 maps I've ran I've only dropped ~4 dappers. They were 80-90+% quant with divination chisels applied...Mausoleum better than jungle valley maybe? Edit: I did like 5 more and had the same results, either 2 dappers or 4...Whats the deal?

[@keek1337]

I’ve had the same results. I even took all quant altars before doing the abysses.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Subxenox15 how many maps you did? It happens sometime but not all the time. Mauso and valley should be the same. Do you hv the deli orb applied?

[@Subxenox15]

@@WL-vb4fn I did maybe 15 more and gave up, I was only getting 2-4 dappers, once I got 6. Back when I was farming for the scry I was getting 6+ every time.

[@bigboi4404]

@@WL-vb4fn Hey - quick question - do you open the abyss "hoards"? these chests that they leave behind - do they make any difference in div card drops?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@bigboi4404 Yes, they are the main source of the drop, thats why i mention you need caster mastery.

[@TroyC8]

Hi, your Character Build pls. and Name of scarabs pls even do you mention it im not sure what are those im new to Poe and first League ty

[@WL-vb4fn]

@TroyC8 pob pobb.in/0xs9uHHz_cOx Its archmage necro For the scarab 2 Abyss scarab 1 Abyss scarab of edifice 1 Scarab of Monstrous Lineage 1 Divination Scarab of Pilfering

[@keek1337]

Great video. Would've been cool if you attempted to track the # of div cards on the boss on average, but I know that's very tedious.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@keek1337 i do track the div card drop, divide that by 100 you will got the average. Or do you meant the div card qty in total?

[@keek1337]

@@WL-vb4fn Yeah the boss with pilfering will tell you the total # of div cards it drops on kill. Then that will be duped so you can multiply it by 2. You may have tracked that and I missed it, sorry if so!

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@keek1337 ahh, i dont record all of them, its a lot card haha

[@keek1337]

@@WL-vb4fn Fair! I get that haha. Awesome video regardless!

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@keek1337 thank you!

[@もも-j5f3g]

Hi, your videos are always great. Which card would you rate as better, the apothecary or the Nimis card?

[@eddienash2095]

I've run 4-500 juices maps and got no Apothecarys...I'm gonna try this tomorrow

[@WL-vb4fn]

@user-vp1df2xd1x apo in term of number is better but i like nimis because its more common than apo, meaning you'll see more often. with apo you have to be ready to do ton of maps without getting the apo, if you can handle it then go apo (yes, I've been there, hundred map without apo lols, rng is rng).

[@Zylosio]

I wonder how profitable this is if you farm divine cards rather than giga rare cards like nimis and mageblood. On avg divine cards should yield about the same profit as nimis, but they are WAY more common, which means you wont bleed urself dry on bad luck streaks.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Zylosio from what i know nimis and apo is better in profit because of pilfering, but divine card like divine beauty is more consistent

[@nahidsarwar9588]

i did divine beauty initially (12 cards set for 7d) then swapped over to nimis card. From my experience farming for nimis is MUCH more profitable over the long run.

[@Leman-q]

Hey, thanks for the video, i have a question, so caster mastery is mandatory to do this strat?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Leman-q yeah, it will be too much clicking without it ( I do try it, finger hurts lols)

[@juniorchavez7230]

Name scarabs? I can't get the poe planner like the others have, did you forget that? no speak english

[@monko87]

maven's chisel of divination or basic chisel ?

[@smokinggoose3633]

div card chisel

[@polohank]

why you choose Influencing Scarab of Hordes is that work?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@polohank it does, in my spreadsheet i think hordes works a bit better

[@pbkou]

Does it make a difference where you scry the residence map into? Also, for map device what would be the best option? Another abyss?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@pbkou there 2 map thats works, jungle valley and mausoleum, both didnt hv boss altar until you got into boss room. That mean you’ll always get player mod, quant and card dupe is what we after

[@powpowder9659]

Does anyone what filter level to use for this strategy? I'm starting to get used to end game as this is my third league and I'm struggling to find what's worth picking up! I'm using Uber plus at the moment.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@powpowder9659 when reach this kind of endgame most of them is custom. Although unique is tricky to filter becuase the filter only able to filter base item not specific item.

[@FakeFunForever]

hi, ty for guide. In spreadsheet, I see 2 strats for div card one and you recommended lower profit one. Why?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@FakeFunForever the first one i got really lucky with the nimis card. It way above the average, check the highlighted section, it does the calculaiton how much is the average. The one i recommended hv better average

[@FakeFunForever]

@@WL-vb4fn ty for your answer

[@FakeFunForever]

@@WL-vb4fn What should we use on map bench? Abyss or quantity?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@FakeFunForever abyss

[@alec6994]

Any reason to run Mausoleum specifically? I am currently running a map farm in Underground sea because I heard that it has the highest mob count out of all maps but I also know that on some maps abyss can glitch out and give less abysses. Do you think abyss will be good in Underground sea and what alternative layouts would you recommend for this strat? Thanks for the video!

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@alec6994 it has to be mausoleum or jungle valley. The reason is altar, there no boss altar for that 2 map until you got into boss room, so you have the best chance to get qty and div card dupe altar.

[@alec6994]

@@WL-vb4fn ah, I see. I knew about the jungle valley alter tech but didn't know Mausoleum was also like that. Good info!

[@Zylosio]

Jungle valley is also fine, the reason people run mausoleum on pilfering strats is the Boss is easier, but since in this strat there will only be a couple of cards per map you can easily do valley as well, and i prefer valley Layout over mausoleum

[@darklogic8859]

Really good man video man. What scarabs are you using ?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@darklogic8859 2 abyss scarab, 1 edifice, 1 pilfering, 1 hordes

[@darklogic8859]

Thank you sir!!!

[@ravecsucks6192]

Where do you find the patience to answer morons like these who go around asking questions you literally answer in the video ​@@WL-vb4fn

[@MrRaja]

I will use this strat but for another card 💀 about to flood the market with chaos orbs 😂😂😂 update: warden or any attack build will not want to do this strat... without the caster mastery this strat is 0/10

[@nickpast2252]

I ve might missed something, how do we have divination cards drop ? from delirium orbs ? I am using the scarabs correctly but how many divination cards will stack in the boss ? Also, what do u pick at map machine ?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nickpast2252 card can drop from multiple source, most of it from beyond monster with atlas tree, abyss hoard also contribute a lot, then also just raw drop. I dont count how many div card at boss, i count how many dapper prodigy that i got. This is not strongbox strat. For map device im using abyss

[@nickpast2252]

@@WL-vb4fn I see, so we dont care to buff the boss with plenty of cards, just prodigy ok, only by the side currency it's profitable anyway

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nickpast2252 yeah, abyss give decent mount div and valdo. The jackpot is from nimis card, or whatever card you targeting

[@rogu31sh]

How critical is starting with 80% qty on the map? Is there some qty below which the super rare div cards just won't drop at all?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@rogu31sh rare div always able to drop. Idk how critical it is, i never really test it to find out

[@Shinbvd]

what kirac map craft are you using? domination/abyss/beyond?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@Shinbvd abyss

[@Bathmman]

3div per map is crazy

[@daddypuff87]

@Wl-vb4fn , would mf gear increase the ammount of the divination cards on this strat ?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@daddypuff87 quant is removed so there no need for mf gear. Rarity doesnt help with div card

[@PejorativeDaedal]

Is mauso better than jungle valley now in terms of mob density? Also can i run this with a 15m dps build?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@PejorativeDaedal i dont think so, in my case, i alrdy scry my apo on jungle, so im only hv mauso left. 15m i think is fine, can u do t16 20% deli? If you can then you can do this strat.

[@alegend4213]

Pob shows Headhunter, but what were you using in the video?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@alegend4213 headhunter, i do try mageblood for a while, but switch back to HH

[@Rilakkuma.24]

Influencing Scarab of Hordes does it work on the abyss? I thought it only worked on Shaper, Elder, Conqueror, Searing Exarch, and Eater of Worlds.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@Rilakkuma.24 im using hordes, and that for altar only, its doenst affect the abyss at all.

[@Rilakkuma.24]

Thanks for the answer

[@jimmythuresson]

you mention caster mastery, but you should emphasize that its mandatory

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@jimmythuresson yeah, I’ll keep that in mind for future video

[@TorsteinTheFallen]

i still have no idea why

[@TheScudik]

@@TorsteinTheFallenTo open all the "chest" that the abyss makes while travelling. If you click on them it will take waaaaay longer. It might take you even a hundred maps before you have the good cards so if you are spending twice the time to clear it that's gonna be painful.

[@JaniJhonny]

@@TheScudik not if u play a build like me, my spectres handl the mobs while im clicking. If a build is a 0 hand build its not mandatory, otherwise it is in a lot of build.

[@icybutspicy2678]

Is it viable to farm less rare card like Divine Beauty for more steady income? Or we need to focus on "big drops"?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@icybutspicy2678 you can do this to divine beauty, its more consistent, profit probably less than big drop but its consistent

[@icybutspicy2678]

@@WL-vb4fn ty, i will try to scry it from Moon Temple cause i see there at least 2 good cards, and can make feedback after 100 maps. Ty

[@MrCezik20]

Why mausoleum not the dunes ? boss is easier to kill and plenty of space from range :?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@MrCezik20 you need to kill the boss last because of pilfering scarab.

[@cmo333]

can i use this strat on glacier, its my favorite map and i also scryed cathedral to it, im trying it now, with more an emphasis on scarab farming for mainting value while going for the apo

[@WL-vb4fn]

@cmo333 I wont recommend it, you'll get less quant and card dupe altar, so your chance to get it will be lower.

[@cmo333]

@@WL-vb4fn yea it wasn’t very successful. Maybe another strategy I can try to farm the apo on glacier ? Hmmm

[@hamdroku5448]

what you choose on map device abyss or just increased quant?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@hamdroku5448 abyss for more abyss

[@vexfemboy]

any reason why those 2 particular maps? ty p.s. influencing scarab of hordes doesnt work on abyss, just placebo effect its sometimes good to have it :)

[@davidcarter8007]

He says in the video that it's for the altar mobs

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@vexfemboy that 2 map doesnt hv boss altar until you got into boss room. Hordes for altar only

[@Krakatomia_]

​@@WL-vb4fn sorry what HV means?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Krakatomia_ have

[@Krakatomia_]

​@@WL-vb4fnhey man thanks for the answers is this strat still viable? Saw it's 1 month old

[@buildingstuff1707]

i must be doing something wrong cuz my boss is empowered with 10-30 cards esch time...

[@WL-vb4fn]

@buildingstuff1707 For this strat you wont get hundred nor thousand card on the boss, if we can get that number, you'll probably see nimis card every few maps which is nuts. If you compare this to strongbox strat, its a very different strat, totally different approach

[@HKara_]

Not work 300 qunt boss droped 5-8 card... Scam curens and time

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@HKara_ do strongbox, you’ll get big number on boss. You doesnt seems to understand how the strat works.

[@Ownage2341]

Can I use the same strategy to farm my apothecaries on my strand instead? ty

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Ownage2341 yes, but it will be more volatile. Can you handle it, especially when you hv streak of bad luck.

[@Ownage2341]

@@WL-vb4fn i mean what the difference is going to be? Is it because the boss tech where I will see boss altars? Or just because apothecary is more rare?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Ownage2341 for strand map, its because boss altar tech, you want as much quant and div card dupe. For apo, it is twice more rare than nimis (if i remember it correctly)

[@JaniJhonny]

Is it right to have 5-15 div cards on boss? I feel like i missedsomething. Using right quant, chisel scarabs, atlas, mapdevice craft, altars before abyss, 20% deli.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@JaniJhonny i got around that number too, idk, i dont pay too much attention to that. I only count dapper prodigy rate and nimis card because thats the target farm also in the spreadsheet, you got 7-8 dapper prodigy average so you wont see big number on boss. 7-8 prodigy and some breach splinter card (i forgot what is the name)

[@Eqnotalent]

The odds 2 fire per 500 dappers. So now you know how many map u need to get 1 nimis card to drop. If u are getting 4-6 dappers per map. You should see 1x2 nimis card drop within 95 maps

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Eqnotalent where you got the 2 fire per 500 dapper from?

[@Eqnotalent]

@@WL-vb4fn I saw the weighting calculator. 1 nimis is within 286 dappers. Since we are x2 all the cards. So by the time you have 400-500 dappers you will see 2 nimis drop as a pair. I just got my first nimis x2 drop, and I have 491 dappers in my inventory. After doing 102 maps in a 2 day span.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Eqnotalent Ahh i see, maybe i overestimate the rate. i thought it was 1 : 240, so i got total 738 dapper, i asume you will see nimis drop 3 times in average

[@WrathEE]

I wonder if I’m doing something off. Boss only dropping like 5 cards

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@WrathEE do you prep the map properly? Deli orb? Do you take quant altar?

[@WrathEE]

Yup. I’m also taking abyss on map device. I’ve been corrupting them too

[@Meybi]

You do know you can buy 8 mod maps from TFT with regex so it doesnt have any negatives your build cant run theyre like 12-14c each and you can buy bulk

[@Eqnotalent]

But those maps are mostly corrupted

[@TrueEdge90]

@@Eqnotalent yes, because you can only get a map to have 8mods with corrupting a map. Otherwise 6 is the max amount of mods

[@JaniJhonny]

You cant use deli orbs on corrupted maps, Corect me if im wrong

[@afiqqnizam]

Cant maven chisels too

[@WL-vb4fn]

@Meybi you cant use deli orb and div chisel on 8mod. question is which is better, additional quant from 8 mod or more div card from chisel + deli

[@duongvu484]

just some quick questions to make sure i understand this...so 1) when the stygian spire is spawned we don't kill it immediately right? We let it spawn as many are monsters as possible? 2) Do we clear the abyssal depth? 3) How much do you full clear the map before killing the boss? anw...Ty very much !! Keep up the good work

[@WL-vb4fn]

1. its optional, in my case, most of the time i kill them by accident. 2. no need to clear abyssal depth 3. First clear the map to get altar first, then do abyss, then do boss. (Try to kill most monster) Thank you man, really appreciate it :D

[@duongvu484]

@@WL-vb4fn BTW is there anyway i can get around with not using caster mastery :( my build don't use that mastery :(

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@duongvu484 unfortunately no, i hv to literally change my passive on my new LL rf just so i can get caster mastery xD

[@raizzen582]

Hey what was your average number of divination cards that was empowering the boss?

[@jordanwhite4963]

would love to know too, did htis myseld and averaged 6-10 per map boss

[@MonblancTV]

i want to know too, here is 4-6

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@raizzen582 if im not taking any div card reward from altar, i think around 9-10. But im not tracking that, so im not 100% sure

[@ListenerRyan]

here 5-30

[@windsolaz]

should i wait for the spire spawn mobs or kill it at first sight?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@windsolaz i kill them, but if you want to wait, thats also fine

[@nickpast2252]

So, how many dapper prodigy you need to be close to the nimis card ? around 730 ?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nickpast2252 i think its 1 nimis every 240 average (without pilferring)

[@nickpast2252]

@@WL-vb4fn i am at 630 dapper prodigy ( with pilfering ) still nothing

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nickpast2252 unlucky, I’ve done 400-500 maps of this, 3k-4k prodigy maybe more, result is pretty close to the average. Maybe i should do one with fortunate or divine beauty, both of those is a lot more common card

[@nickpast2252]

@@WL-vb4fn wondering if it is worth to keep on trying or to change strat

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nickpast2252 if you think this is boring then change strat, this is why i yapping quite a bit in the video, this strat is not for evryone, same as farm apo when mf still exist, you hunt for very rare item, so if you go on dry streak it’ll be boring, you even lose currency when mf still exist, for this strat you wont but no big drop is still going to be boring.

[@positivesounds7598]

Shrines 100% help with altars

[@nikgame33]

Nice video! Question about your build: why does it work - you should not be able to DD your desecrated corpses

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nikgame33 you can. The nerf is on spectral corpses (its corpse for raise spectre, people use to corpse pooling), so corpse pooling is not a thing anymore, but you still can explode corpses even from your desecrate.

[@vodanh7183]

Hello sir, Map quan 80+ and Scarab is 2 abyss , 1 abyss Edifice, 1 divi Pilfering, 1 Hordes right and Map Device is Domination ? I'm not good at English. I'm sorry

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@vodanh7183 map device is abyss

[@vodanh7183]

@@WL-vb4fn thank sir😍

[@vodanh7183]

@@WL-vb4fn Do we need to roll mod map 2 unique bosses? ty

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@vodanh7183 no, it doesnt help, if there 2 boss, only 1 will drop card

[@vodanh7183]

@@WL-vb4fn ty

[@ahmadashraf9448]

Is there a particular reason to use Abyss? Atlas doesn't really say anything about boosting card drop via abyss

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@ahmadashraf9448 reason for abyss is abys hoard, also abyss spawn decent amount of monster. The altar is to boost quant and div card duplication.

[@NKB_POE]

jrit 100 map dapet 10 card ya mantul itu coba dah nanti gw test

[@djdannyroach]

will this work for apothecary, im guessing yes

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@djdannyroach yes

[@linchihchieh8806]

Can I use Harbinger instead of abyss? The abyss brings no rewards before winning a jackpot.

[@Eqnotalent]

you can, but harbinger doesnt get effected by quat/rarity. its the abyss caches that drops most div cards

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@linchihchieh8806 abyss hoard give you tons of stuff, check the spreadsheet, abyss hoard gives raw divine and valdo boxes… so it does give reward -_-

[@linchihchieh8806]

@@WL-vb4fn Thanks for the info. I haven't try the abyss in a long time.

[@zignetvs]

not sure what im doing wrong but geting like 5 quant alters 5+ abys i only get 1 stack of 2 to 4 cards? super odd as i know more drop naturally... granted ive ran 3 maps but i expect at least fragment cards to show up .-.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@zignetvs that div card darm, its volatile. What fragment card?

[@zignetvs]

@@WL-vb4fn hey i just ran map #4 this time i got 49 cards i think game was just bugging out. just like when 0 alters show up POE bugging for me lately haha espseically during syndicate. The fragment card nvm i was thinking something els. the good news is iave had 2 div drop and sacred orb. so i might find mirror before i get nimis card ;P

[@zignetvs]

@@WL-vb4fn Her mask card*

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@zignetvs what card are you farming? i dont think her mask is on the menu. That kinda of stuff happen, i have 1 map that i got lot of altar but 0 dapper prodigy, which why i yapping quite a lot in the video about this strat is volatile

[@zignetvs]

@@WL-vb4fn just common i do have nimis scribed i guess i forgot what cards dropdoesnt show on filter haha. Its ok i like volitile. my other atlas is harbinger haha

[@brixunited]

Is there a specific reason to use eater vs exarch?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@brixunited as far as i know its mostly about the downside, example : eater altar hv -cold and lightning res, exarch hv - fire and chaos. -cold and lightning is easier to handle.

[@AN-us2en]

is it normal that boss has 5-10 div cards empower? looks too small...

[@WL-vb4fn]

@AN-us2en This is not strongbox strat, we target farm specific card. so you wont see hundred of random card empower the boss

[@virolancer1]

like

[@madhatten5123]

It’s weird how good these stupid troves are at dropping map based Div cards. I am not positive they are affected by the chisels though. I’ve heard people say they aren’t and others say they are.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@madhatten5123 yeah, and they often srop divine and valdo too lols. It should be affected by chisel, but also cant 100% confirm. Maybe i should try with 8mod, if i get same avrg dapper prodigy then that chisel is useless lols

[@madhatten5123]

@@WL-vb4fn Yea I am not really sure how that works. I have heard from people that usually test things well one says they do the other say they don’t so who knows. One things for sure the troves are nutty but completely unplayable without the caster mastery. I tried once it’s terrible lol. So much clicking

[@th1zzend220]

@@madhatten5123 What if you arent a spell build, is this strat shit then or?

[@madhatten5123]

@@th1zzend220 It just depends on how much clicking you can handle I guess. I have done it you still make money but it is hard on your hand for sure

[@th1zzend220]

@@madhatten5123 Ah well im still young so maybe it will be fine XD

[@eddienash2095]

Do you wait for the spire to spew the extra enemies?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@eddienash2095 if i can, most of the time, i accidently kill the spire

[@windsolaz]

map device just go 8% quantity default?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@windsolaz map device is abyss

[@kidpwnz]

you kinda need the divination altar with boss gives jewelry card no ?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@kidpwnz no, the nimis card come from scry residence map. When you scry it into your map of choice, you hv the chance to drop it.

[@kidpwnz]

@@WL-vb4fn i was referring to the Altar "(1.6-3.2)% chance to drop an additional Divination Card which rewards Unique Jewellery". Doesn't that improve the chance?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@kidpwnz ow sry. I tend to avoid that stuff becuase i worried it will dilute the pool (idk if it actually is) by adding all card reward unique jewel which is a lot of card

[@prodklipz]

how can i open up the horde caches quick like you are?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@prodklipz you will need caster mastery, it gives 25% chance to open chest when using spell

[@Elcopex]

Can I make this farm with a build that does tier 17?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@Elcopex yes, this strat is not that difficult, we only at 20% deli

[@ThanhButa]

i tried ur abyss scarab farm but dunno why my luck so bad lol.. 10 map without any big drop so i just go gamba some house of mirrors car .... next league i`ll definitely follow ur build

[@WL-vb4fn]

@ThanhButa what if the luck go to the gamba lols. Im kinda lost with build atm, still stick with my league start.

[@ThanhButa]

@@WL-vb4fn got 1 heah hunter from 3 doctor cards but i lost like 3 HoM and later 2 apo.. this league is donee for me

[@kunieda]

10 maps is a horrible sample size for div card farm it's normal to get literally nothing these are made for bigger samples

[@ThanhButa]

@@kunieda nonono, i farm scarab not div card..

[@kunieda]

@@ThanhButa oh sorry I misread my bad

[@lanaya9tf]

how many stacks of cards should be there on boss?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@lanaya3887 i think its around 9-10, but i didnt track this one, so not 100% sure

[@kizune3322]

Is jungle valley a good layout for abyss?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@kizune3322 yes, jungle valley is good for abyss

[@semih4827]

Hey i'm very interested in the build, can you do it on hierophant?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@semih4827 i think jungroan make the hierophant version (its high end), this is his build too

[@semih4827]

@@WL-vb4fn i think your build is faster, coc is not that dashy for clearspeed. Ty for answering :)

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@semih4827 yeah, but its 2 button vs 1 button xD. Np man, if you hv more question let me know

[@osh111]

what the effect on opening hoards or not opening them?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@osh111 most of your loot including card come from hoards

[@osh111]

@@WL-vb4fn soo, the chance to open nearby Chests when you Cast a Spell would be so much helpfull. I guess. Never noticed that one, have been gone from poe for a while.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@osh111 yeah, it mandatory to hv access that mastery for this strat. It will be too much clicking and it will slow you down way too much without caster mastery

[@osh111]

@@WL-vb4fn well, looks i have to make new build then.

[@tinecchi3648]

Wait is there not a way to get the quant notes in the middle? I know it’s 3 wasted points but any quant you can get is god tier right

[@WL-vb4fn]

@tinecchi3648 yes there is, 3 point from shrine and 3 beyond point or 1 beyond point if you have full atlas point. but from my test, i think shrine is better because it helps with altar spawn, but i cant 100% confirm about this, maybe that 3% quant is good.

[@tinecchi3648]

@@WL-vb4fnyeah I just tried to change any pathing but it’s a perfect tree. The only thing you could do with a full atlas is give up 4 beyond or influenced pack size and then take them but that would require so much testing if it even makes a difference. Great tree 10/10!

[@tinecchi3648]

Oh and as far as I know shrine does help with that. Ritual too

[@wangchangyang3482]

Can you do this in T17?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@wangchangyang3482 i dont think so, there is no way to rush the t17 boss consistently, as far as i know. mausoleum and jungley valley is the choice because there no boss altar there until you get into the boss room

[@feriawanguntama1577]

gokil 10 kartu nimis

[@WL-vb4fn]

@feriawanguntama1577 hoki dapat 10 haha, averagenya 6 - 8. Ya begini div card farming, kl hoki hepi, kl ga hoki mengelus dada

[@DragonBone95]

Hi, what chisels do you use ?

[@Eqnotalent]

maven div card

[@WL-vb4fn]

@DragonBone95 maven chisel of divination

[@j4zefky778]

how did you farm the nameless seer?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@j4zefky778 i hv a video about farming stacked deck, thats what i do while trying to find nameless seer

[@nickpast2252]

I am sorry but is there any link from redviles actual video ?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@nickpast2252 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2qofYZ6e5KIi6M He farming divine beauty there

[@nickpast2252]

@@WL-vb4fn what altars u usually pick ?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nickpast2252 quant and card dupe. Im also try to avoid altar that give card (like card reward something) coz i worried it will dilute the pool but i cant confirm this one

[@nickpast2252]

@@WL-vb4fn Usually i get 4-8 Dapper prodigy, when i pick altar that reward basic currency divination cards Dapper prodigy drop falls to 0-2 per map, rarely went to 4-6 dapper prodigy

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nickpast2252 so it does dilute the pool,, interesting. I thought it only affect eldritch monster, so in theory it shouldnt be that big of a deal but just in case i avoid it

[@mello8211]

did you use maven chisel?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@mello8211 yes, maven chisel of divination

[@alekappleton7912]

even if good cards don't drop, is this a decent gold farm?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@alekappleton7912 around 40k gold per map, not the best but not bad either

[@alekappleton7912]

@@WL-vb4fn cool!

[@sfh8282]

what 's your build? any links to a guide? thanks

[@WL-vb4fn]

@sfh8282 Its archmage DD, unfornately i dont have guide for it, this is jungroan build. I league start it and then stuck with it lols

[@luq7657]

​@@WL-vb4fnThat build is so cool man..

[@jhonreycorvera1425]

Hey! so how many cards does the boos get? I just get like 10-30 most of the time, is this normal?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@jhonreycorvera1425 yeah, i got something like 9-10. Sometimes a bit more. Most of the card is dapper prodigy and some breachstone card.

[@alial-tramsi7992]

what makes the boss drop div cards?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@alial-tramsi7992 pilfering scarab

[@alial-tramsi7992]

@@WL-vb4fn okay thank you

[@alial-tramsi7992]

@@WL-vb4fn okay thank you

[@ИванТитаров]

What cartografer mods need use?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@user-xl3jw6jl7m map mod? there no particular mad mod, just make sure the map has at least 80% quant with div card chisel

[@ИванТитаров]

@@WL-vb4fn I mean the map device mod

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@ИванТитаров map device is abyss

[@asdfdas-h8r]

how to open hoard all one click sorry im newbie

[@WL-vb4fn]

@asdfdas-h8r caster mastery, it gives 25% chance to open chest when use spell.

[@asdfdas-h8r]

@@WL-vb4fn thanks!

[@leaspauli7807]

why u need caster mastery?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@leaspauli7807 to open chest, there a lot of abyss hoard (basicly abyss chest) to click

[@roshinobuhirigasawa1109]

poe newbie, why jungle valley and mausoleum?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@roshinobuhirigasawa1109 because in jungle valley and mausoleum, the boss didnt spawn until you get into boss room, so you wont get boss altar, means better chance to get quant and card dupe altar.

[@roshinobuhirigasawa1109]

@@WL-vb4fn I see, TIL thank you for the info!

[@roshinobuhirigasawa1109]

@@WL-vb4fn btw what do I do if my build is not a caster? do I click all the hoard manually?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@roshinobuhirigasawa1109 please dont do that, you will hurt your finger. caster mastery can be activated using multiple skill, like curse (temp chain, flammability, vulnability, etc) The problem is can you access it at passive tree, if you cant, then i dont recommend this strat

[@roshinobuhirigasawa1109]

@@WL-vb4fn yes luckily I can access it by replacing just a few damage nodes, i'm trying to find a spell that I can just run through the chests/hoards without clicking before I go into the boss. Is there such a thing?

[@vejiita3608]

After juicing the map hard, all abysses done(5) all hoards open all altars clicked, 12 mobs left, 9 div cards in the boss. Kinda useless strat

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@vejiita3608 i think you misunderstood this strat with strongbox strat… it doesnt even work in the same way…

[@vejiita3608]

@@WL-vb4fn no i mean clearing map for 15 minutes and see 9 cards drop, with so rare chance to be the right card makes it a bit low tier strat

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@vejiita3608 yeah, like i said, its a different strat. Also 15 mins lols. Alright, moving on…

[@vejiita3608]

@@WL-vb4fn yeah i know what im saying and my character is super fast, its all about abyss wasting so much time so you cant make it shorter even if you want Stop lying to people

[@Durboghaal]

This strat is viable without open box ? I don't play caster

[@WL-vb4fn]

@Durboghaal unfortunately no, you will need caster mastery. I'll try to look for other option without caster mastery

[@Eqnotalent]

why not corrupt the map after chisel ? try to get to 8 mods

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Eqnotalent i think the cost willl be too high, you will need to chisel and deli orb first, they are not cheap. But i havent really tried it, so i dont know how much 2 additional mod and 20% qty benifit are.

[@Eqnotalent]

@@WL-vb4fn also why not lineage or multitude scarab. more mobs than horde. no ?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Eqnotalent lineage is annoption, i go for horde just because it impact altar more and altar is few way you can increased quant and get card dup. For multitude i dont think its that good, considering ground loot is kinda bad this league. But this kinda stuff will need lot of testing

[@Eqnotalent]

@@WL-vb4fnare you not using Maven divination chisel on these maps? Just normal chisels?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@Eqnotalent im using maven chisel of divination

[@duongvu484]

i'm lazy to roll maps, can i just do 8 mod maps instead and run them with deli on map device :)

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@duongvu484 you cant use div chisel with 8 mod map. That div chisel make lot of different

[@mkshoptitans9488]

i am down 50 maps , 0 cards

[@Toxickys]

Dont stop

[@Eqnotalent]

im just over 100map now, 0 card

[@Eqnotalent]

update, finally got 2 cards after 102 maps.

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@mkshoptitans9488 welcome to div card farm, thats why i say its volatile.

[@Eqnotalent]

Just got done running 40 maps. 0 card. Must be streamer luck for him. 😂

[@CodexGB]

yeah, i'm feeling the same 🤣

[@Eqnotalent]

@@CodexGB based on the current div card weighting, it’s 1 card per 700 map a raw rate. With scarabs I can see it drops to 150-200 map per card

[@CodexGB]

@@Eqnotalent yeah makes more sense tbh, probably will switch back to strongboxes. Div per hour was better than abyss

[@bisha9347]

Seems right. When you hit the div card you get 2 so variance/dry streak can get pretty big

[@ProMikus]

@@Eqnotalent what? you are supposed to get 6-8 per 100 maps on average lol who the fuck would do that strat to get 1 card per 100 maps on avg😂

[@MonblancTV]

map device is abyss?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@MonblancTV yes abyss for more abyss

[@NoPantts]

why mausoleum map?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@NoPantts because it doesnt hv boss altar until you go into boss room. Same with jungle valley

[@NoPantts]

@@WL-vb4fn i see, thanks!

[@itshyper5505]

Is there an alternative to the caster mastery?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@itshyper5505 sadly no, last league we hv warcries open chest but its gone with necropolis. Sorry man

[@bertoalkholik127]

gua baru main seminggu ini buat 3.25, ada saran early currency farming bang kirakira untuk build yang masih ecek ecek?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@bertoalkholik127 alch and go pake altar merah, itu yg paling gampang. Modal map doang. Kl bisa beli scarab, blight lumayan, abyss kalau ada akses ke caster mastery.

[@bertoalkholik127]

@@WL-vb4fn mantap, gua coba running blight dulu dari sarannya buat ngumpulin modal biar bisa switch running harvest. Gua subscribe bang, jarang ada youtuber indo POE. Kali aja bisa jadi Empryannya indonesia

[@MonblancTV]

i'm at 20 maps, 0 drops

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@MonblancTV i think average is 26 maps for 1 nimis card, but this is why i make a point in the video, this is a volatile strat, result can vary depend on your luck. Streak of bad luck can be very painful

[@MonblancTV]

@@WL-vb4fn ya, its a rng pure strat, i'm okay with this :)

[@gabe-i4w]

@@WL-vb4fn it's 1 every 43 maps which is then doubled by the scarab, but that doesn't make it become one in every 22 in practice, even if mathematicaly it would.

[@positivesounds7598]

Is it worth to do apoth or no

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@positivesounds7598 i think apo in number is better, problem is apo is twice rarer than nimis, so you going to see it a lot less.

[@positivesounds7598]

@@WL-vb4fn appreciate it

[@blackwomangamer2637]

i ran 500 maps 80 quant full blue altar and dropped 0 apos so far

[@signaturetrans9190]

I gave up on apo after 300 very juiced 8mod maps..​@@blackwomangamer2637

[@PejorativeDaedal]

Hi done 1k anarchy jungle valley regex 88quant, 0 apoth. Had to buy the card and harvest gamble.

[@nguyenhuu908]

GGG nefted this stragt

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nguyenhuu908 they do? Where is the post? Or this is shadow nerf?

[@nguyenhuu908]

@@WL-vb4fn shadow neft i believe. I tried this strat few day ago, the final loot is totally disappointed now. Can you now try this strat again?

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@nguyenhuu908 Alrdy did 300-400 maps, Im testing something else, maybe later on

[@nguyenhuu908]

@@WL-vb4fn i think this strag is too strong, so got nefted. But i'm not sure they neft the div scarab or abyss hoards

[@justtakefive9320]

I gave up on 45th map, bait strat made me quit league

[@LovelyCooK]

don't do this kind of strat if you can't handle dry streaks

[@OpikX]

Why abyss??

[@WL-vb4fn]

@@OpikX because its good, especially the abyss hoard. You will need caster mastery tho

[@impalomcfly676]

⁠@@WL-vb4fnwhy do you need caster mastery?

[@Afro598]

​@impalomcfly676 caster mastery has a chance to auto open chests

[@QTip00]

Can’t you open the chest manually? I don’t habe a spell build

[@Darkxellmc]

​@@QTip00if you're ready to click 300 chest per map, sure? It's a terrible idea, you'll take 30 mi utes per map.