[PoE 3.25] Farming Scarabs in T17s for 25-30d/hr - Adversaries & Divinity/Nemesis - GREAT farm strat

[@foreseerx]

P.S. Maybe don't bother with Maven's Chisel of Scarabs, it's quite costly so probably better without. FAQ: 1. Can you run different maps than fortress? -- Yes, Ziggurat/Abomination/Sanctuary will be just fine. 2. Can I run exarch instead of eater? -- Yes, Eater altars do give slightly more quant on average though thanks to Eldritch Gaze. 3. Loot filter? -- www.pathofexile.com/item-filter/Gg4zsE (basically uber+ strict) 4. POB? -- pobb.in/xVCIQOGJNh9S 5. MF? -- I don't run MF on my character and have only 13% on my build. With MF you can expect much higher returns from this strat, especially in terms of gold.

[@ahyn7360]

Why do you run fortress, just preference or is there a benefit? Besides boss being easier

[@foreseerx]

@@ahyn7360 basically yeah, just the layout and the boss being quick and easy. Fortress also has naturally spawning barrels that give some extra loot AND drops yoke of suffering which goes for a div each so it offsets the difference in boss fragment prices a bit. Otherwise you can run a different map, Fortresses tend to take quicker for me than other maps (especially compared to Ziggurat) which results in better map/hour ratio, so even though you might make a bit less profit per map, per hour it probably would even out :) tldr: just preference for this one, I don’t think it would matter too much to run a different one if you prefer

[@ahyn7360]

@@foreseerxYeah catarina is really annoying so I usually stick to Sanctuary, but I'll try some Fortresses too

[@HNkw88]

amazing loot when i tried this strat! huge thanks! im running svallin with great wand+HH. i cant imagine using dual wand and hit altars with a lot of negative defense impact to ur build.

[@foreseerx]

@@HNkw88 it’s actually surprisingly manageable with a mana pool large enough, only altar I don’t take is the one that reduces regen per endurance charge you have, that one is just death :) Glad you’ve had a good experience, really happy to hear that

[@Shodokan123]

This league they changed scarabs and chisels to drop like maps. As in the only things that modify their drop chance are map quant, map scarab %, base mob quant (amount of rare modifiers, also modified by ghosts and yellow wisps) and atlas tree modifiers (also based on rare modifiers here). Glittering does not effect or should not effect the amount of scarabs dropped per map and should not be included in any scarab farming strat (unless it is currently bugged).

[@foreseerx]

That’s interesting, I didn’t actually know that but would check out with the runs I’ve done with glittering because the results were a bit subpar. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!

[@gehirndoper]

Cool to see that there's a use for the Nemesis scarab. I tried using it in ultimatum since that spawns tons of rares, but got no result. Also should be great for any headhunter build.

[@foreseerx]

Definitely, and HH builds would absolutely love this one.

[@stochastic42]

All non-native mobs have a massive penalty to quant this league, so nothing you juice them with will help if it scales off quant.

[@ahyn7360]

2x adversaries and 1x nemesis is such a nice core scarab combo, specially on HH build it just feels great. Hunted traitors, wisp, divinity, storm, x2 risk if build can handle it are all nice but divinity feels like it has the most satifying loot Personally I've been trying adding x2 ambush scarab + map device ambush, need to sacrifice a bit of quant/scarab/influenced pack size here and there to get strongbox on atlas but I think it's decent as a bit of a mixed farm

[@foreseerx]

That's interesting, have you tested the returns from this? I've tested some mixed ambush strats and they weren't bad at all either.

[@ne_aist3944]

​@@foreseerxAmbush is actually better than divinity imo for this farm. The point of boxes here isn't loot from boxes themselves but rares they can spawn. Like if a box with guarded by 3 rare monsters or stream of monsters gets a couple of reopens you have a whole screen of scarabs.

[@zealousjourney9758]

Been doing this all league and can confirm 30d+/h

[@davidjvaliente]

Preferred method of liquidation of scarab tab? Great video keep it up!

[@traserelax6686]

Tft

[@foreseerx]

I sell a few expensive scarabs on the currency exchange fully then just usually go bulk sell everything else at a lower percentage (90-95%), which both more or less offset eachother. For bulk selling, tft or wealthyexile (or other websites allowing for bulk listings) work quite well. Otherwise this league manually selling the whole tab is surprisingly not that much effort too, only takes a few minutes of clicking :)

[@firebard123]

Swap the divinity scarab for wisp scarab for mirrors and locks you don't need crazy currency rolls and you still rain scarab

[@MrSimSim.]

finaly scarab strat without bloodline, its so damn expensive

[@MrSimSim.]

are the returns per hour better without using the scarab chisel and not going for the stricter high scarab regex? I've done only with these and the investment per map becomes quite a lot but have yet to do the math on it, all I can say is I spend 1d for chisels, 110c for map, 10c for deli orb and maybe 50.80c in rolling? not sure if I'm just very unlucky, any input would help along, only done maybe 20-30maps of the strat

[@forcexcanada]

Fortress>Zigg cause Fort boss doesn't do 2minute of animations

[@sapero4489]

yeah ziggurat is so bad

[@ronremedios1635]

ive made all my currency running this strat for weeks now, but ive been using scarabs of risk instead of the divinity ones.

[@foreseerx]

Interesting, how do you find returns with risk? My ice nova archmage can't really handle risk that well unfortunately so didn't bother trying that one.

[@ronremedios1635]

@@foreseerx ive done pretty well with risk. I might try these scarabs for a change and see how it goes. i use HH and just rush the boss with as many buffs as possible. Ive used scarab chisels if i get a really high scarab roll on map like 170% or more and honestly havent notice a difference. its hit or miss

[@Joker-wn5fr]

What would be an estimated difference in profit for running bloodlines + monstrous lineage instead of divinities?

[@foreseerx]

Hey, good question. I actually ran bloodlines/lineage instead of divinities right before making this video! I ended up getting the same revenue as I did with divinities, so basically much worse profit. Ended up making 0.6d/map instead of 1.2d with divinities, because bloodlines was basically 0.5d each. Not sure if bad luck but wouldn’t do again honestly. For bloodlines/lineage maybe it makes more sense to do other strats like combining it with wisps, i think Snoobae did something like that.

[@Joker-wn5fr]

@@foreseerx Yeah I was running a few maps with bloodlines/lineage + shrines from the tree and map device for more magic mobs. While I am making profit, I'm not sure how much so I'll give divinity a go too since it's cheaper (it's very low sample size but one map I rolled 140% scarabs and maven chiseled got me 6 divs in scarabs with bloodlines/lineage)

[@c-tothefourth4879]

Regex in description has double "", so may catch some people out who don't know.

[@foreseerx]

Yeah, spotted it yesterday and fixed, apologies for the mistake.

[@myka4413]

How does tankyness feel? Have u tough running svalinn version?

[@foreseerx]

Hey. I’m running the dual wand version, honestly it’s pretty tanky but the Svalinn variant is probably quite a bit tankier (and a bit slower) overall :) This one is tanky enough for pretty much any juiced content, I’ve done some 60% deli T17s with wisps before and it was pretty good, can also facetank pinnacle bosses, and feels comfy in ubers. Good fit for the gauntlet :)

[@MiiTsY]

have u tried beyond no boss node + device beyond instead ? if yes did it feel worst or same?

[@foreseerx]

hey, I’d tested a few strats with beyond but not this one in particular, the issue with beyond is that it typically doesn’t drop an insane amount of bonus currency even if you fully juice it, but in case with this strat, you would be basically trading off some nodes that boost rare mobs + scarabs for some nodes that juice beyond a little bit. Honestly not too sure if that makes sense, I’d expect the amount of returns from beyond to be minimal if we do that, at the cost of scarab loot so I personally wouldn’t do it, but maybe it’s okay.

[@quod.2321]

Good Video, how is your game running so smooth and looking so good. thats crazy

[@foreseerx]

It’s a miracle :) I’m running an RTX 4080 so that helps a lot, but the game still has some performance issues, but they’ve been improving it quite a bit so that’s great to see.

[@quod.2321]

@@foreseerx im also running on a 4080 and the game is crashing very often and is arround 50 fps in juiced maps

[@foreseerx]

@@quod.2321 oof. What's your resolution? I'm running 2560x1440, directx12, all lowest settings in graphics. I heard the CPU can be a big factor too, I've upgraded mine and had a big difference, but idk about yours.

[@quod.2321]

@@foreseerx I have the best amd gaming CPU there is, but this game still is deleting my pc. I will try to run the game on direct x12 maybe that will help. thx

[@johnturtle6649]

@@quod.2321 I had best results using Vulkan. idk if it matters. But try swapping renderers, see if one or the other is more stable.

[@iAMxVV]

I find it interesting that you're using singular focus with no favorites to boost currency dropped. Makes me curious, if one were to do a juiced map dropping strategy with the 8 mod map drops, would that be converted to more rare currency?

[@foreseerx]

Hey, yeah, but as for viability -- I'd just given this a thought and probably it wouldn't be viable. Since maps just basically drop as extra random currency items (I believe), the problem will be that even if you juice it with cartography scarabs, you're just not gonna be getting more than 15c (price of 8 mods) per drop -- most of it will be rubbish currency, you'd have to basically drop a divine every 9 maps dropped which would probably be very unrealistic. Really good question btw :)

[@iAMxVV]

@@foreseerx Mmm... If it were strictly random currency it definitely wouldn't be worth it. I can usually pull in 50 8 mod maps in a t17 with 150% maps, so I might give it a small sample size to see what happens.

[@doingmusic1193]

hey, is there a way to roll maps without volatile core on them? I cant find them in regex with 40-60% defense reduction, hate having those on maps :c

[@foreseerx]

hey, those are surprisingly common on high rolled maps, it might be coming with scarabs/currency mods quite commonly, but if you add "!vola" to your regex (use poe.re to be sure) you can avoid it, might make maps difficult to roll though unfortunately, and they’re definitely quite annoying, very few builds if any can tank those :(

[@NathanVariety]

How much does your build cost and is it expensive to get going? Rn I have about 100 divs to play with.

[@foreseerx]

It's a bit over a mirror, but I think you could make it T17-ready in under 100 divs and get most of it. I'd made an entry level guide that's probably a good starting point and should be under 100 divs right now (though I haven't checked prices lately, this is from a month ago) -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3OYlXiCl7h6n5o Definitely a fun build tho, one of the strongest I'd played especially at this budget, but screen clutter takes a little while to get used to.

[@smithers4420]

Roughly how many chaos does it take before you get a big scarab roll? I just keep hitting 50%

[@foreseerx]

Can take a while, definitely go for 100% at most, going for 130% takes a long time for my build. It’s because the mods that juice scarabs are also the bad ones most people can’t run :(

[@okkomp]

3 min per map? Takes me 10 mins..

[@logan2815]

the regex doesnt filter scarabs unles im doing something wrong

[@karolw9466]

Is it a 1,2d\map netto? T17 maps cost around 0,5-1d

[@cyberw1zard]

Do you think it's worth to run map with good currency roll with this strat?

[@VicenteLimaBr]

Only if there a good scarab % too

[@foreseerx]

@@cyberw1zard hey, I don’t really think it’s worth it, you’d probably be reducing your profits quite a bit. But there’s exceptions, like if it’s 70% scarab and 200% quant it’s probably fine to run still, basically like @VicenteLimaBr said, so long as there’s a good scarab % too :)

[@burntnumb8691]

any idea if this can be run without deli orbs? it seems my char can finish maps in 3mins if I don't do deli

[@foreseerx]

Yeah you can do it without deli orbs for sure. It’ll reduce the profit a bit as you’re sacrificing some quantity, but apart from that it’ll be fine :)

[@definitelynotjin]

will this work on T16? or is it T17 exclusive farm

[@foreseerx]

hey, honestly haven’t tried but maybe itd be fine in T16s also. The main advantage of T17s is that you can put more scarab quant on your maps so I’d expect a bit less in T16s, but I might try to test that one, it’s a good question.

[@mond2440]

is that a spell slinger cast on crit ice nova of fb + discharge? wtf is that?

[@foreseerx]

@@mond2440 Hahaha it’s the voltaxic burst socketed in the kitavas thirst that triggers non stop :) Supposed to help with clearing and also stacks with oriaths end so I’m running it for the lack of a better option (bar maybe returning proj., but that one I feel like doesn’t make much that difference so I’m not running it). Even more screen cluttery than regular version though :)

[@zggaming7629]

i cant find scarabs dropped by slain enemies on atlas

[@foreseerx]

it's not on the atlas, it's an eldritch altar -- when you have eater of worlds influence, you get the altars where you can choose to have a bonus, and sometimes you get "scarabs dropped by slain enemies have a chance to be duplicated" -- that one is good to get :)

[@JezzyHsu]

The atlas tree link doesnt seem to work :(

[@foreseerx]

Hey. Did you copy it with the "-"? Here's the full URL -> poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BAASAIQA8_dfPmMPSzLru0z1JJey-t6iiy6GtLGfLJJdoAh6hCr-xW2IuP_AKqfi6ng8WSIp81v9ejD6ky2Ug_I4jEGyxRCAzgBenc5ayf36dI3qCguovCq72VvMt4ahvdrzDOT3HwCL4X2RCnsOSqoKiDTaFJ87sZ3fYxCh6GvXK2iJrKQqXtSPh50rcdDGw3mCp73HKY2OOVmGglHh5zfjz0fwgPuxpXOkBV7fThvpKKLQ4Axb1l9KyxchTDUwkc44vzakxB8TffZ1GZT9tcGvOnbl7NVicQtbHo_lAzAUF9r6M8Z3FNibtw_VacJ2qUPk_LVjoHFmHz8IuWLkM5qvuuhM8s776Wcj39AoFAAfiwgAAAAAAAADAwAAAAAAAAAAAA==

[@L4szcZ]

what u pick in map receptacle?

[@foreseerx]

quantity! But you can try other options like torment, theoretically it’d work to boost rare mobs, but I just got for quantity.

[@bopybop4038]

how did you made regex for 100 more scarabs?

[@foreseerx]

I copied it :D But for regexes in general poe.re is very good, they’ve added recently an option to do regexes for scarabs, currency etc too.

[@wille4781]

the regex doesn't work for me .-. someone please elp

[@foreseerx]

@@wille4781 hey, did you copy-paste it with “ ? Those are very important to have, so copy paste with quotation marks otherwise it might not work. Also, do you have poe in English? Different languages might have different regexes.

[@ahyn7360]

There's 2 pairs of " by accident, remove one of them. "E s.*(\d{3})%" copy it like that

[@foreseerx]

You’re an absolute legend, I double-checked it and still missed it. Fixed it in the description, appreciate it!

[@ahmadsyazwan9258]

This one is better than 1x Hordes, 2x Adversaries, 1xNemeses and Lineage?

[@foreseerx]

Yeah, I found it better than magic + rare mob strats (anything involving lineage or bloodlines), and I think it makes more sense to boost 1 mechanic the most (rare mobs) rather than spread thinner and boost two. As a matter of fact, I tested this but instead of divinity used bloodlines + lineage and got very similar returns at a much higher cost even, and I even used twice as many mavens chisels. So 2x divinity is probably the best way to go about it honestly.

[@viniciushumberto2396]

Do you think this strat is still worth if I can't kill the map boss?

[@foreseerx]

Honestly probably not. In this testing batch I'd made 34 divs in profit, but 25 divs in revenue came from fragments alone. So the profits wouldn't be worth it IMO if you can't kill the boss yet -- I'd probably stick to T16s for the time being in that case. Last league it was a bit different, because you could skip the boss and instead focus on farming curation/preservations which had a huge price point.

[@Zechques]

do it in citadel if you can't kill the boss. it's cheaper and you won't need to kill boss to make profit. but honestly if you can't kill the boss you will have a hard time with the very juiced rares

[@lunnaris8739]

These div/hour is totally bait, 3 mins per map including killing boss. Good luck with that! 😅

[@foreseerx]

You could check out my build and the showcase of a 3 min clear - it’s a fast clearing build though and quite expensive. But you could copy-paste the sheet and put your clearing times in to get an accurate idea of div/hr for your build.

[@lunnaris8739]

@@foreseerx yeah but I'm talking about your title is misleading. Says I don't have a speedy build and this would take 5 minutes, which is normal, then the profit would be less than 20 div/hr

[@foreseerx]

@@lunnaris8739 Yeah, but I still have to provide the numbers that I got -- I can't adjust them for a build that I'm not running but include div/map numbers in every sheet I make just so people can have an accurate idea of how it'd look for their build -- I don't really know how quick other people can run this. It's not perfect, but I'm providing the div/map numbers in the thumbnail, and I provide them in the sheet. I would provide them in the title, but YT limits the titles to 100 characters and then I would need to remove something from it instead, but the problem is that I still need to include div/hr or else div/map is just as meaningless -- a strat that makes 1d/map but takes 10 minutes per map (think legion) would only make 6d/hr profit, so ideally you want to use these numbers together, but since I don't always have space in the title I can't include it there but only in the thumbnail and my sheet. PoE has always worked that way and you just can't expect the returns you can get from mapping strats if your build clears on the slower side. No intention to mislead and I'm trying my best to give everyone an accurate idea for their build -- and I give my numbers AS IS because if I start tweaking them and making up numbers that I didn't actually get, how can you trust my content? I don't want to be the guy who puts random numbers on a sheet, I do testing batches, calculate the profits and showcase them -- and provide all the information you would need to get an accurate idea for your build, if the clearing time differs substantially.