Are expensive strats still worth? - Atlas strategies - Based or cringe? - PoE

[@Kelltuhsatt]

calculated the harvest juice wrong. wealthy exile uses the chaos price which is very underpriced most of the time. for harvest you need to check the div price. my wealthy exile said 12div yellow juice but i sold for 16div right after.

[@MrGruxLike]

That would make more sense. I thought the profit was too low too.

[@beaconplayzroblox501]

Yellow juice is approx 0.3c, wealthy uses 0.2 Checking the auction house is probably the best way to calculate juice stuff atm lol

[@TheOriginalFelord]

@@beaconplayzroblox501 Yeah I've been harvesting a good bit and AH price on it is primo

[@BigB0ss00]

is awakened poe trade accurate?

[@MinisculeBug]

​@@BigB0ss00For div price yes

[@Empyriangaming]

There is quite some decision making to deciding the order of crops to click. Generally clicking the lowest value of which you have the most, but then the wilting or not-wilting and the way they are paired can change the follow up. Interesting strat, not bad numbers, very easy to trade after, I sold all my juice in 3 minutes. Thanks for watching!

[@jordywillaert-rt9qt]

bruh the first 10 min of ur vdieo its only yapping.... like why...

[@waowNroks]

​@@jordywillaert-rt9qt bruh maybe he's just explaining the strategy he's doing in the video.... there are timestamps...

[@tinecchi3648]

Yeah I love the crop rotation note. I don’t do it a lot but everytime I do it I just love it xD That’s why I hoped ggg realized this and released more atlas notes that change how you play mechanics. For example instead of 4 rituals you get 1 massive one. Or legions have chances to have only sergeants (20%) Generals (10%) Unique bosses (1%) Or abyss to break open in your maps and releasing all monsters.

[@lookoutitsadragon]

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[@Hovezipwn]

youre so wrong. i farmed over 10 million yellow juice last leg and 2m this leg. please dont spread wrong info if youre not sure about it

[@p4l-YT]

As a crop rotation runner for past two leagues, you simply get your investment doubled - you put a div into a map and you get 2 out of it. Sometimes less, sometimes more. Not counting lucky drops.

[@MrArchy1986]

6 divs per hour isnt that much.

[@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn]

@@MrArchy1986 BY comparison OP farming strat 6969 gets you 12 divines per hour. In stuff that takes another 3 hours and 35 sales to liquidate. The beauty of this strat is when it says it makes x divines per hour it makes x divines per hour. Juice sells in minutes.

[@MrArchy1986]

@@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn poverty patch😅 im trying couple more strats and if I feel like im not going anywhere, ill shelf poe for some time. I dont run maps to kill monters...i do it for rewards

[@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn]

@@MrArchy1986 I stopped playing POE last league and I wholeheartedly encourage anyone to take a break from this very addictive game from time to time.

[@Juuz9]

its okay, we will still have fun without yall, cheers!

[@SirPembertonS.Crevalius]

Stardank Valley OST while explaining harvest strats in PoE, both are my kinda farming strats.

[@andreipacurar1350]

One more thing ive noticed - getting too many bosses is actually bad. I try to open the yellow plots whenever i have 10+ rares and no boss. Far more juice

[@Milldredd]

I should probably not write this, as the harvest crop rota is my main strat :-) - but, you should probably not calculate the juice profit with wealthy exile or something like that. With the bulk you have for sale you can go way up with the price and most likely you've made even more profit. What is great on this strat is that it has the easiest way to sell what you farm - you just list the juice once and make sure that you put it all in a public tab and at some point people will start bringing you divines :-)

[@NoxioLukas]

At 17:30 you mentioned that you should always gamble (assuming infinite maps) because you have a 60% to not wilt. I am pretty sure that is incorrect. Since you already have a 3-4 times juicer crop there, an additional juicing by gambling probably will not provide you with enough additional value. I dont know how much the upgrade would bring, but to make the 60-40 gamble worth it, it would have to be 66,66% more than before the juicing (e.g: a 5 times upgraded drops 66,66% more juice than a 4 times). I am pretty sure that one additional power up is less than 66% more juice (feeling from my own play testing).

[@OneEyedManKingdomOfTheBlind]

Ok so. Here’s the real math. You compare the expected value of the strategy, assuming you can run it enough times to get exactly that value. For a given two plot choice, you have four possible outcomes. Two possible choices and two outcomes for each choice. So, assuming you have two expected plot values, A & B. It doesn’t actually matter which one is which. Assume B is the gamba. You choose B, A wilts. You get the value of B. This happens 40% of the time. You choose B, A does not wilt, you get both A + B. This happens 60% of the time. You leave B entirely and just directly take A. B wilts 40% of the time, leaving you with just A. Finally, you leave B, but it doesn’t wilt, giving you A + B again, 60% of the time. The question then, is (0.4 * A) + (0.6 * (A + B)) >? (0.4 * B) + (0.6 * (A + B)). Which can be expressed as A + 0.6B >? B + 0.6A. An astute mathematician will notice that as long as you assume A > B, then that inequality will *always* hold. So you should *never* take this gamba.

[@cheyhey2170]

@@OneEyedManKingdomOfTheBlind ok so never gamba? that makes me sad, but thank you

[@vendelinvomacka7559]

​@@cheyhey2170 I am late to the party but maybe you will run this strategy later on, so I will give you a heads up. The guy above you is wrong and his "math" doesnt make sense and is incorrect in the crop rotatin scenario. The thing he forgot to account for is that taking the gamble will upgrade all remaining A that are left in the harvest. Which makes it that the gamble is worth it at certain point, because there is +C which is the increase revenue from remaining A. The EV calculation is fairly complicated as it depends on multiple factors like remaining amount of yellow crops, the actual number of T2 and T3 mobs on those yellow crops, pack size and quantity of the map etc. I am going to leave you with what I am following - I am running 8mod jungle valley with 3 risk scarabs and clicking every single quantity altar unless divine orb altar. My usual overall pack size is around 90%, 350ish quant on the map (nothing else matters, delirium does not affect harvest yield, only the quant on map). Now for the yellow crop, if there is only one yellow crop in the whole map I gamble it if it has more than 3 times the amount of T2 mobs than T3 and no T4 (this means for example there are 10 T2 and 2 T3 I gamble and click the other coloured crop, this means I always harvest crops with 4+ T3 mobs). If there are two remaining yellow crops I gamble if there are less than 6 T3 mobs and there are some T2 mobs that can get upgraded (this means those last two yellow crops are in different plots, meaning there is a possibility for upgrade). If there are 3 yellow crops I always gamble the third one, usually the lowest value one. This way you may make slightly suboptimal decisions in fringe cases, however in the long run it should net you more juice overall. One last thing is I consider T4 to be roughly 2.5-3 times as valuable as T3, this is to break tiebreakers when there is one Y crop with T4 and one without. Reason is that T3 will spawn more monsters with increased pack size, T4 wont (with my levels of pack size) and taking into account sacred blossom and avian card. T4 nets me roughly 1400-1800 and T3 is 250-350, while T3 always spawning at least in pairs. Hope this helps you.

[@cheyhey2170]

@@vendelinvomacka7559 when going over it myself (espcly considering atlas notables) that it doesnt really add up, but i never thought properly about it before and just went by instinct/gamba. ty for letting me know though, i really appreciate it!

[@vendelinvomacka7559]

His gamble was incorrect in that situation as the rate of t2 to t3 was only 1,5:1 which you should cash out if it is the only yellow left

[@attepirttiaho7942]

12:39 This is a perfect example of how the 3.25 harvest changes were a pretty big nerf to imbued crop rota potential. Because the crop instantly activates on being clicked now, you cannot first lock in the yellow to see if blue wilts and then when it doesn't wilt, use it to upgrade the yellow again before popping the yellow. Previously you could do this and net another upgrade on your Y-B/Y-P plots.

[@Empyriangaming]

Good point. I’ve never done crop rotation before this change so this was all new to me but that makes sense. *edit: unless when ‘locking a plot’ before this patch made you have to clear the plot anyway which now that I’m thinking about it i think you had to, so it’s moot.

[@attepirttiaho7942]

​@@Empyriangaming I did a bunch of crop rota last league and how it worked was that when you initially clicked the yellow plot in a Y-B/Y-P harvest, it would just move the harvest UI to the plot (where it is now by default) and wilt the other crop if you rolled the 40% (imbued). If you rolled the 60% and did not wilt the other plot, you could then reselect from either plot for which one you want to clear first, and if you ended up not wilting the blue/purple, you could use it to upgrade the yellow plot you initially locked into the same harvest. I've still done a bit of crop rotation this league, and despite the changes its still the most fun way to play harvest imo.

[@Senny_V]

The nicest thing about running any harvest strat is honestly that the maps don't clog up your inventory much, and selling is extremely straightforward. Not needing to stash after every map or every other map is amazing, and being able to track your profit by only a couple of currencies instead of having a wide spread of items is HUGE. This and Stacked Deck farming have been 2 of my favorite strats to run purely out of convenience.

[@Gardenlessbirb]

I did this stat last league and the variance is insane. The first 30 maps I ran tripled my investment. But the next 30 maps I ran I only made like 5 divs. Then the next 30 maps I ran about broke even. It can be rough.

[@thenoideaman]

I did test run of 10 maps and decided that there's too much gamba involved to call this a reliable strat. When 7 maps in a row return maybe half of investment, and then one map gives 4 divs worth of juice, there's just too much variance for my taste. I wish scarab of awakening was cheaper, but today it already went to 1div.

[@Boltxhardrock]

33:43 The best part of the league.

[@isoldmymumforrp5371]

They really need to change lifeforce to drop in one singular drop. Or idk make it so that the thingy you click to open the plot gatter all the lifeforce and then click once to collect it all. This strat really got on my nerves, clicking 200 times on the ground to collect everything

[@popijam2]

It's because the lifeforce only drops from the monsters you kill, not a progress bar like delirium for example.

[@isoldmymumforrp5371]

@@popijam2 So you still can change it the way i said. Whats even your point?

[@cheyhey2170]

scrollwheel = left click -> much easier but i agree thatd be a nice change

[@NomaLeCore]

That chatgpt March search history ( 4:04 ) lookin kinda sus tho @Empyriangaming 😂

[@Empyriangaming]

Lmao 🤣 (autohotkey was for last epoch, it’s allowed there)

[@1990erre]

Why didnt you ask GPT about only reducing yellow by 45% ? That would lead to smallest yellow.

[@ObfuscatingUsername]

ya i dont really get their conclusion. Ben probably does it because he actually wants the most even spread of colours possible while still getting the keystone... doing only yellow would be 22% chance of yellow vs. his 27% strat

[@MrMamfbr]

the chance of not getting a yellow gets too high, but how high, it would be interesting to see

[@utkuso4960]

because we still want yellow

[@_Aynix]

@@utkuso4960 He asked ChatGPT with 45% reduced... purple? When he wants to have less yellow than purple? That question made no sense. If he would take only 45% reduces yellow, chance for yellow is around 18.3% and chance for both blue and purple is around 40,8%

[@SageUndead1]

Was thinking the same but then u got a 22% with 4 plots avarage u wouldnt get yellow often enough.

[@1990erre]

17:04 Is it? Winning the gamba needs to give you almost double juice compared to not gamba for it to be worth, does it do that?

[@near--zero]

Depends how close in value the plots are I think. If they're close then gamba if not then pick the high one in my opinion

[@jack20001106]

What causes the Es and mana change their colors?

[@EnderElohim]

10:05 i still wish currencies like that combined rather than split like that

[@rodrigocitadin8501]

the best atlas points are all in purple, because you maintains the core in yellow and blue, so when you click in blue crop, you will have just yellows to level up. If you reduce yellow chance, you will probably share chances with 3 crops instead of just 2

[@exodus8202]

The key to this farm is speed because the outcome is very stable. With bulk price and fast maps one can reach 20 div/hr fairly easily in league prices.

[@biggriller6522]

This was my league start strat excluding the influence scarab and just running the 1c harvest scarab. It’s so consistent for returns and fast liquidity

[@stevenrussell6920]

I know you don't factor in trading into the div/hr, but I think the ability to trade the juice so quickly easily makes this based.

[@galefire102]

The video opening up with Terran 2 Starcraft OST made me think I opened the wrong video since I listen to the Terran themes while farming quite often. Thanks for the video and the confusion! :D

[@JetcannonM]

Nothing teaches better than practical examples. In the past I've watched some vids on Crop Rotation where they talk for nearly an hour about choices and probabilities and priority and I understood some of it but it still seemed a bit overwhelming, this made me get it in 10 minutes. Base.

[@Empyriangaming]

Nice

[@quocbaole1743]

Did anyone test the strat with and without Delirium mirror ? I run 20 maps with and 20 without Delirium Mirror and the result from both are the same. The stacks of juice drop from each t2,t3 Harvest monster look identical to me.

[@Awildfjellman]

Pro tip, clear the map, go back to WW and fish for good omen, go next. It really is a dogshit mechanic now.

[@novostep4488]

Updated value atm yellow juice = 60divs, purple juice = 19.3divs, blue juice = 12.1divs

[@EnderElohim]

11:20 Worst case is when all plants are same colour because that mean 0lf XD

[@Sindamsc]

It's funny how reddit was crying for weeks that scarabs are useless in t16s while there are a lot of strategies that make you 1-2div profit per t16 map with scarabs in

[@bagourat]

In regards to the harvest nodes, I think your explication is slightly wrong. The configuration that gives the least amount of yellow is just the 3 yellow nodes and no others. However you don't want your yellow chance to be too low so you still get at least a yellow crop, therefore you pick the -25 blue/purple to bring yellow chance up a bit, otherwise you would brick too many runs. Edit: for exemple 11:10 would happen a lot more if you didn't spec the 2 -25nodes.

[@Synky]

Just 3 yellow nodes gives least yellow? How?

[@Synky]

Nvm it's so confusing I get it though or at least you mean to not take the notables

[@bagourat]

@@Synky if you want the least amount of yellow you pick the 3 yellow nodes (10% reduce X2, and 25% reduce), and you have to path there anyway to path to crop rotation. However if you stop there you risk have too many maps where NO yellow spawns. So in order to balance things out you takes 25 reduce purple/blue in order to even the odds a bit. You still have less yellows than bleu/purple but just enough that you're pretty sure you have at least a yellow crop each map.

[@DawidSzostek-e8o]

@@bagourat so you should do -45 yellow, -25 blue, -25 red is what you are saying

[@bagourat]

@@DawidSzostek-e8o yes, that's basically what Empy is doing, it's just that his explication as to why was wrong.

[@sgbailey81]

I’ve picked up info from these that I’ve applied to other strats. Please keep the based or cringe series going.

[@EnderElohim]

0:22 i saw from a youtube about basically taking all that nodes except one small yellow one. i wonder how it works compare to this. Seems like it also make monochromatic 0 lf yielding maps become less 2:25 i think problem come from tier limit. If you only have one yellow on your map after it become max tier it cant level up no more

[@hamzahussain7794]

The trick is to run it without the imbued scarab and don't give a shit about 60/40% chance, just go really fast and click non yellow first,yellow at the end. Get the juice and leave for next map.. if no yellow spawned, just leave directly. Almost no thinking required. Only doubling scarab is mandatory.

[@mungolockhart3875]

The awakening scarabs were like 140ish when I wanted to run harvest so I went full lazy with basically 0 invest strat. Just run any maps and pick up harvest (crop rotation or not). Use the juice on chaos rolling amythest rings and sell those. Early on league it was netting several div from thin air. I really like harvest, but also despise it.

[@Salty_Cyclist]

Ran almost identical tree/scarab/mapjuice combo but with blue alters with almost no mods I could not run last league - and it averaged 6642 yellow juice per map over a sample size of 200 maps. The price of awakening and yellow juice really drives if this is worth it.

[@Evil_Arthas]

From Path of Evening vid about doing same Crop Rotation without may reward with close to 10 div profit(now probably around 9-10d/h) which is not that far from end result of using Horned scarabs. You also will face way more bosses in Horned version of rotation, so it might be a problem too. If you broke, watch Path of Evening vid on crop rotation and just copy it to farm up money. Last league i saw how one guy just tested "What if you dont give a damn about altars and just rush to Harvest?" - Turns out you can make lil bit more money than when you clear whole map. Is it still same this league? Dunno

[@Dane_law-t]

I love how I decide to switch to this a couple days ago >.> over a div now for that scarab lol. Doing a diff crop rotation strat though

[@XeperX]

I did the same last week on 20 maps, same atlas except for the deli, everything else the same... got 60% maps with 3 crops, 10% with 5, harvested juice barely broke even for the scarabs. No comment.

[@kostav4448]

did a very similar setup in t17 with more focus on packsize. my juiciest one was smth like 202% packsize and 370 quant and i got 42k juice from a single map.

[@seikojin]

For another based or cringe, could you do some blightheart scarabs in t16's/17's. I was doing blighthearts, blooming, deli of paranoia, mania, and monsterous lineage. Easy to get setup atlas to have 100% blight and deli, run the map, complete the map to get deli done, then go back to do the blight encounter, or deli orb the map, and run the map to build up tile count, then do the blight encounter and boost the tile count. Can do the blightspawn notable to have a crazy blight ravaged map in your t16.

[@GreasyOaf]

All fun and games until empy leaks your strat, gg noobs see you next league

[@laQwoter]

Your strat is safe. Alch & go + 1c scarabs gives the same returns, but more gold/resources/chances for Kalandra/Bosses/Seer etc. Not taking into account how rippy this bosses are, esp with all altars.

[@MrMamfbr]

@@laQwoter teach us, laQwoter

[@GreasyOaf]

@@laQwoter 🙏🙏🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[@Senny_V]

This strat wont be touched at all because people still need their juice to gamba Plus crop rotation is one of those strats everyone knows

[@GreasyOaf]

@@Senny_V harvest scarab doubles in price

[@55dreamer5]

I was doing around 10 div/hr Profit without crop rotation and awakening scarab, so way lower investment and higher returns, however I was running 3 scarab of Risk. I think they might be a lot better for this strat as you mentioned but yeah pretty rippy. Nice video regardless thank you empy

[@Asdayasman]

I kinda miss the sorting montages with Brock Berrigan.

[@Sandbagging]

Hey, is the "Doubling Season" atlas tree node doing anything, given that the Harvest Scarab of Doubling grants that Lifeforce "is duplicated?" Can it be Duplicated *again!?*

[@joeanon8568]

I'm stacking mods on my t16s, with the keystone that adds mods and two scarabs of risk. I've been using it to farm up 8 mod maps and scarabs, but I wonder if it's worth trying a hybrid version with harvest mixed in. A high roll has > 100% packsize and > 200% quant + altars quant. Might make harvest actually too hard tho

[@neildaniels1202]

Would you have any benefit from using Deli Orbs on the maps and then allowing extra points to spec into the Atlas tree, or is the expense not worth it per map?

[@Serasphiel]

They gotta make picking up harvest juice work like Kalgur gold. Great vid :)

[@Remindw]

Wasn't it the thing that pack size of influence mobs do not increase chance to spawn altars?

[@beningram1811]

Has anyone yet suggested Atziri farming for gold farming? All enemies are magical (apart from the 3 boss sections) so it should yield good gold for it's level.

[@panagiothskati4134]

Sadly the generic profit would be there anyway, by clearing the map, however the juice it self would net you the same or around the same even without the awakening scarab. However if you choose that strategy go big! like run the strategy till you get 500k of each juice and use it to flip CATALYSTS-essences (i would probably skip scarabs, not the best to roll this league)

[@thomasgrimm1664]

This is great, just for the divine clicking at the end alone!

[@kraton05]

Great… I finally figured out a good farm 3 days ago and you posted this the next day…. There goes my currency farm…. Ugh this was my fav one too gdi

[@tamasfreiberger1184]

Typing "summarize this" twice into chat gpt and then not knowing which setups were which, and scrolling up 16 pages to the prompt. gigachad

[@lordaioros5232]

I been running over 600 harvest in the season and the best in long term is just to lock the yellow one and no the others.

[@paulsharke]

Everyone's posting all these analytical comments but around 20:00 I just about died laughing at the mana donut fight and no, that's not hyperbole, laughing is dangerous when you get older. eat heart healthy, kids.

[@verysleepyboi]

that stardew valley OST running for harvest strat stream caught me completely offguard lol

[@bryansans2564]

I'm hooked on Cloister&Ritual. Mesa works out so well with this and has the Fortunate. avg 40 stacked decks a map i make my investment back in 3 maps tops. I notice in this strat i see the wanderless seer more often too. 6c scarab and then if you add Maven's chisels in the atlas which i am about to test tonight. RIP in ritual most likely haha

[@Empyriangaming]

That’s what i’m doing on stream atm. No maven chisels tho

[@bryansans2564]

@@Empyriangaming I might regret it tonight. lol to be continued lol

[@geniusidiot69]

might be a good idea to make a video after last Based or Cringe strat to review all of them to see what is the most per hour profit

[@LPDesard]

How to actually get the Improved Harvest map device option? I only have default Harvest

[@espicelmecanicodecombustio1632]

Harvest will always be good on account of how easy it is to sell juice

[@hoouhoo]

once again as soon as i like something someone makes a video and the prices on it get fucked

[@jakkrit6910]

all your video are interesting to watch and it give me some fire to turn on poe again. after i reach my goal of pushing my build to reasonable goal post and buy mageblood for no reason. i just don't know what to do next.

[@Voroniirijeglaz]

Sitt square is best for harvest, fast boss location, lot of mobs are= lot of altars, good layout

[@trad5479]

Nice video, I really like the series. Isn't it better to ruin the juiced Harvest strats on T17 maps? You get so much more pack size and quant.

[@valderhide1674]

How much lower are profits if you swap awakened scarab for just regular harvest scarab. I don't currently have enough to buy 10-20 maps worth of awakened scarabs

[@HEXZ0R-]

i spend 10div few days ago , i ended up making like 7div ...this crop rotation is cringe af , i think best way to profit harvest with low risk i straight up run einhar harvest crop memory its like 60-80c

[@_Aynix]

Imo if you calculate profit with the prices FOR THIS MOMENT you also should calcualte investment with prices FOR THIS MOMENT. Idk when did you buy those scarabs for 12c and 120c, doubling were 18-19c for over 10 days, maybe even longer and Awakening scarabs were like 150c maybe even more.

[@Neriehem]

Depends where you buy them, we can all see he traded the normal way instead of currency exchange. It's cheaper this way too, as botters still exist and can sell their "passive income" like before, only that now they aren't maximizing profits.

[@_Aynix]

@@Neriehem They are cheaper if you buy 1-2 at once. The moment you check stock of at least 5-10 Awakening scarabs go for 150+ and doubling for 19-20c.

[@giantoscano630]

Actually, wouldn't it be better to mark only the big blue, along with all the yellow ones of course, so you can have a steady secondary color to fall back in cases the map bricks? Like, in a scenario with 3 pairs and no yellows. Idk man, that chatgpt input seems sus af. The considerations were so damn weird.

[@SUB-np7uk]

14:31 Isn't it the best here to go PURPLE in purple/yellow crop you will have 2x blue to upgrade your yellow ones?

[@SUB-np7uk]

ahh this would be better probably without scarab of ascendacy

[@gonsfx1792]

How do you make the bosses stand still and grow roots? the yellow one screws me over and over and sometimes never goes into that stance.

[@MrSchmell]

Pull them into open areas away from walls

[@IAMZERG]

I've been doing Maven influence because I'm tired of reading altar mods

[@BlueWright2070]

I see that the Ancient Crane technique got an upgrade.

[@idontwantone132]

Wait dont you want a lot of yellow? i guess idk how crop rotation works

[@R0mka199]

I did the testing, and in every 10 maps I get average 15d raw profit

[@Azore]

I tried this and got giga unlucky, made 0.3d of profits after 10 maps. I was getting the lowest amount of plots possible for 80% of my runs and they almost never wilted either. The only reason why I'm in the positive is that I got a map with 5 plots and they all wilted. Otherwise I would've lost a ton of money. So fair warning for everyone trying this, it's a RNG heavy strat.

[@CG-my1zr]

Same I was just getting under 100 life force and so I just ran them normally, it's more consistent and steady that way as long as you have high quant

[@nikolatorgross]

PLZ make a whole skilltree with chatgpt. Would be fun to watch

[@bobdole8248]

This is how I've made most of my divs this league, plus the 2-3 divs per shipment.

[@Far2ManyDrugs]

what are u shipping?

[@nomnom9368]

12:19 ayoo my question got featured in empy's vid. Goodguy empy and editor POG. ♥️

[@augustoxavier6482]

bro just got a 27k yellow juice and 5k blue in third attempt, but im just blocking red

[@panda93247]

Someone in chat during the ChatGPT clip to ask if this strat is based or cringe. That made me lol

[@user-nt7de2rr9c]

im still not sure on CR if you select the smallest plot, or the largest of the current plot you are targetting?

[@stfucookieman957]

Probably more like 15 div an hr with currency exchange prices for juice

[@Kims3158]

Altars work on lifefoce? I saw almost same quenty between 120 altar bonus and no altar

[@SkillRampage]

i managed to get like 8k juice from a map with cornucopia. its not too rare too

[@jeffreychen8443]

Does deli actually increase the juice you get or was it just there to add more stuff to the map

[@AnonyMeowr]

empy is the main character, that's a lot of plot armor. Harvest plot armor.

[@elchialde6318]

what is the cosmetics that change your mana and energy shield you use?

[@charlesiphone5765]

Hmm, i think you got really unlucky, i get significantly more harvest juice from crop rota

[@EnderElohim]

1:06 how does altars effect harvest?

[@Empyriangaming]

More quant + more lifeforce

[@stephend7343]

"Sooo I made 1000 div an hour. You can take out the mirror if you want. But, I found it. I found it in this strat!"

[@Empyriangaming]

You think I’d say that? You think those are comparable?

[@miramichi30]

This is an awful take. If you run 50 8-mod maps, it's not at all unusual to get one drop worth 5 to 10 divine. Lots of valuable stuff can drop in just random maps.

[@dRay2TH3M4XIII]

Ah, yes, the heavy belt rotation strat.

[@liiiinder]

Isn't that kind of a mess up to have more purple than blue? Seems like that only happens if you favor purple over blue and blue is more expensive :/

[@liiiinder]

OOOF and the 1/5600 really hurts... I sold 10/50000 when it was 1/5700 at faustus

[@durbinha]

love the stardew valley music while explaining the harvest strat

[@Etzlo1]

I thought Deli doesn't affect harvest?

[@Alrdy_Gone]

No spent 50d on t17s made 12 from raw and 30 from items

[@JPgreekgaming]

Wait, I thought it was Yellow>Blue>Purple in terms of value. Why are we prioritizing Purple over Blue?

[@Empyriangaming]

Depends on how many of them there are. Also purple and blue were really close in value when i ran this.

[@huxilon6939]

What i am actually wondering is, instead of t16's doing t17's with more packsize

[@jlnxonce8767]

As someone that farmed A LOT of crop rotation on both t17 and t16, t17 isn't that much better. You get roughly 8% more juice, but layouts are worse, altars are worse, setuping is far longer, mods are more annoying. Also running t16s is WAY faster

[@cheezemansam9567]

Harvest is definitely a strat where it isn't really worth doing t17's. Beyond being harder, it takes significantly longer to actually *do* the maps. I know of 3 people who have specifically tested out the difference here (although they were non-deli), and even though 2 found it was per-hour slightly more profitable running the maps (11.5 div vs. 10.8 div), you also need to factor in the time it takes to buy and roll t17's, and how much bigger pain in the ass they are to run.

[@samsonli9490]

If you lower the chance of all colors, you will just be back to the normal rate. Is that the intent?

[@Empyriangaming]

Your statement is only correct if I lower the chance of all colors equally, which is not something I've done.

[@Alexander361cmongimmieahandle]

What is that random assortment of 2H weapons and belts in that tab? See it every time...

[@SolidroK22]

It allows him to put maps on the far side of his inventory very quickly

[@smiguli8851]

I'm currently farming for a Headhunter so I also can organize my maps properly on the right side of the inventory. So much quality of life behind very expensive items :/

[@attesaarinen4311]

Hah, this made me chuckle. Adding the right side inventory tech was the best investment of this league for me. Keep grinding boss you can afford it one day.

[@halllo3690]

"We'll make sure that it never moves on" Just like my ex

[@Empyriangaming]

Lmao