[PoE] I ran Sanctums until... - Project Sanctum 2.0 - Stream Highlights

[@MrJellyCS]

One of the few content creators who can consistently create 30min+ videos and actually make it feel like 10. Thanks for years of entertainment Empy =)

[@Empyriangaming]

Thank you for the kind words

[@Drugsanddragonslul]

@@Empyriangaming very nice work

[@raffiqzin]

It cures my tiktok brain

[@Empyriangaming]

Cool project, went on a bit too long but it was worth it. At some point during I recorded a run where I explain my thought process but I think I can do it better + show some alternate relic setups so I'm going to do that today on stream and upload that as a separate video in the coming days. Thanks for watching!

[@KopiG86]

Thank you that would be amazing as the relics you are using are extremely expensive so a middle budget option would be much appreciated.

[@wisko9847]

When the beat matched the boxopening, I had the same reaction like empy in the thumbnail

[@jackb8410]

Empy has the best stream music. 10/10

[@theswamps6589]

terraria has sick music bro

[@Lord_Of_Fries]

Satisfying loot explosions timed to satisfying music. This is why I watch youtube even if I catch the stream. :)

[@timbartholotti3092]

The back and forth cut at 7:13 is really nice. Fits the music perfectly.

[@dawnguard1723]

Yeah i actually came back to the video to watch that part again

[@1992Hatzu]

I think the Forbidden Tome droprate is fine. The +2 room reveal relics are 9 div each, you running with 7 for the most part and later even 9 drives the "cost of entry" already up to 63 or 81 div. I know you dont need the relics to start running sanctum. I myself ran like 50 sanctums casually without them but i wasnt even close to the 4 div per sanctum Empy got. So its (obviously) safe to say you get more divs out of your sanctum runs with 90% of the map revealed.

[@Empyriangaming]

Fair point

[@VildsiX]

Exactly. And a build cappable of running it (fast and a lot of dmg). But i love these videos.

[@Synky]

Good point! I still think the tomes need a slight drop nerf though, but yeah the cost of entry can be quite high at first but pays off no doubt.

[@1992Hatzu]

@@Synky I didnt map much this league (750k kills) and only dropped like 5 tomes myself. Maybe thats incredible unlucky, maybe its the average i dont know. So from my experience the droprate is pretty bad. Is it intended to be a alternative to mapping like Heist or Delve ? If so tomes should be readily available. Maybe they can decrease the dropchance but give us atlas passives for it in exchange. With enough investment it sure pays off, but so does (almost, looking at you ritual) everything else before GGG destroys it.

[@2noob2win86]

​@@1992Hatzui dunno i pulled a mirror shard and a +1max frenzy evasion base shield out of ritual week one of tota league! shit printed for me maybe 200 maps run with it just on my atlas deffering all until i use the keystone to mass buy. i ran a delve ritual league start went to about 600 delve on a DD occultist it did pretty decent.

[@Kvodan]

I self-challenge myself for infinite sanctums before mirror and TS is not the best option unfortunately. Something like Storm Brand, Shockwave Totem or Discharge run much faster and confident. But for casual sanctums TS for like 400 divs feels fine.

[@legacy6503]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk i bet your dmg is not even near mine and also speed and im using original sin ts with foewing with 12 arrows, 1bdps+ so stuf mate storm brand and totem is shit.

[@Kvodan]

@@legacy6503 hahaha, average braindeat z-hp ts enjoyer. They all can run non-hit and do each sanctum for less then 10 min. Yor 1B dps is meme for every experience runner who insta skip rooms 🤣

[@ArnoldsKtm]

​@@legacy6503 yikes

[@legacy6503]

zhp? got 4k hp suppress capped and shitton of evasion mate cry more also, your beloved totem its 10x more paper than any shit 10 divs ts build, accept the facts niga@@Kvodan

[@ArnoldsKtm]

I'm quite surprised of how many people were oblivious to how profitable Sanctum has been.

[@imWzY7]

The gif is just PERFECT at 12:55

[@wacco4932]

The like 80 div in relics is some kind of a barrier for entry imo

[@mortox2k]

Basically did the same as Empy this league since I'd missed out on playing actual Sanctum league (was playing Lost Ark at the time), did a full stash tab 144+ books, results were similar. I did it with a Hiero Shockwave Totem build, no Mageblood to begin with, as soon as I hit ~300-something divines, bought the MB and things went way faster from there to complete the remaining books. Great way to generate currency especially if you want to play mostly solo, not stopping to trade very often, can just do big giant play sessions and then liquidate the sextants and chaos orbs whenever you feel like it (usually once I was at like 2000 sextants I'd liquidate selling them in 10 div per 380 or thereabouts)

[@Glizzardacus]

you and I are honestly about the same. I'd say over the 100 books I've ran, I'd say I've gotten MINIMUM 300 Divines, granted I've invested some of it into splitting a MB with a friend, some into my build, some into gamba with sextant rolling, so the results are definitely skewed.

[@righterz]

@Empy Did you account the cost of your 2 additional room relics ? Because those have a big impact on finding divines/sextants.

[@Empyriangaming]

No. How do you propose I account for them? I bought them, used them, and i’m reselling them when i’m done. They were not part of the mirror buy, I still have them. If you want to ‘account’ for no reveal relic runs you have to run an entirely different project.

[@MirraZK]

@7:11 music chest opening rewind. Masterful. I saw you

[@ugano2756]

I love it when you run a full sanctum, only to get fked by the final boss!

[@thedevolis]

The chest opening with the beat is so clean 10/10 editing

[@FlyingThunder]

you wont BELIEVE what this streamer found when running A MILLION forbidden sanctums!

[@ricardofonseca2165]

Doubt any other mechanic would get you a mirror just by framing a tab of maps

[@Glizzardacus]

@@ricardofonseca2165 it takes, minimum, 5-10x as long to run an entire sanctum as it does a map. Wide range of "x" because of varying juice levels on maps. I've ran 115-125 this league to get a MB + T-Shot character up and running. It takes awhile lmao

[@ArnoldsKtm]

You kind of would. Sanctum profits are well known.

[@iambunch308]

Everytime i watch empy on my phone. I stand up and turn on my computer

[@tiboo6669]

the editing style of this channel is so mesmerizing, gj Empy

[@Baltr]

i still remember that jung original scripture fail to a fireball right before the last boss

[@Zalixor]

Editing just getting better and better! I haven't been able to play much at all this league so these videos are a godsend 😄

[@LokirofRoriksted]

Sometimes I forget that this league was about the totems until I see them at the outro

[@areyouconnected7382]

Do you have the pob of the build being played while doing these?

[@DUBSkyLinEx3]

I enjoyed that little backwards thing at 7:10

[@Anadune0903]

damn i love it when u sync the drops to the beat

[@Empyriangaming]

Props to my editor who is doing it now!

[@jeremyrogers6655]

Note to editor, love the clean rewind motion on the loot montage, I see u 👀

[@waowNroks]

👀

[@dukenguyen3424]

What's the investment of your current build Empy? It seems to be doing good damage but not enough to 1 shot the final boss?

[@SheinelI]

a lot, but it's not really a sanctum build at it's core

[@dukenguyen3424]

@ArnoldsKtm I think he had enough dps so speed would be more needed. Presumably the amulet is to open up space for Haste.

[@Fourside__]

20:16 lmao a few minutes earlier you said mirrors are 540 div, holy inflation

[@blakehartsfield8423]

was that diablo 2 expansion music?

[@blakehartsfield8423]

or WoW?

[@chaos3088]

Possible to share your build or other viable builds for sanctum?

[@therbeeo5364]

I was always curious how common the mirror was in Sanctum. Cool video, thanks for sharing!

[@G00R00]

12div/hour, but how much was the initial investment ? (not even counting your good build)

[@Empyriangaming]

100-200 div of relics, which went up in price since then so resale value went up a bit. Did not count those ofc.

[@G00R00]

Ouchie ty@@Empyriangaming

[@weedalism]

the loot montage tho. AMAZING! :D

[@markozacar]

7:13 really fancy music synchronized edit :)

[@bntzrkwu4794]

why is he using lvl1 / 0 quality frenzy/manaforged and ensnaring arrow in his build?

[@ArnoldsKtm]

The level does not matter.

[@bntzrkwu4794]

@@ArnoldsKtm why not? doesnt it scale?

[@ArnoldsKtm]

​@@bntzrkwu4794scale for what? Mana cost stays the same and the only reason you have it is to generate charges or apply some debuff anyway.

[@bntzrkwu4794]

@@ArnoldsKtm ok ty. And why does he use the cast when damage taken + immortall call on lvl3 and 5. I get the downleveling bc of berserk but why so low?

[@ArnoldsKtm]

@@bntzrkwu4794 berserk has nothing to do with it, it just happens to be there. low level for cwdt because it triggers at less hp taken. max level would require more hp taken than the ranger has lol.

[@AnastasChokov]

Such a long video from Empy? A blessing from the lord

[@LehLehich]

That Mirror of Fortune science was very informing :D That coin bug is the same for Azurite in delve. PS. Im running +12 merchant choices relics and i had 10 div once without Gilded Chalice (2 from a boss in third floor duplicated by a mirror of fortune and 1 from fourth floor AND i bought a Sacred Mirror at the end, so (2x2+1)x2=10)

[@SerpentSays]

Cheers to you for the entertainment and extra for the editor cause damn, syncing to the music like that is the best!

[@Notsogoodguitarguy]

I hope it doesn't get nerfed, not even the availability of books. You only failed a few, but you have a very good build. For the average Andy, it's gonna be more like 5-6 divs per hour, which would be about in line with a good low-investment strat. If you got a nice build and can play well, most strategies are gonna be pretty profitable.

[@choke-]

I don't they can or should balance around the lower end ngl but I also don't want it nerfed

[@karpios34]

the spacebar tip, nice!

[@Kaktanternak]

The editing on these is top notch.

[@Gailon1000]

The montage was so satisfying, god damn

[@justinhowe3878]

the drama in the last run lol, you got a good head for television

[@l9mbus969]

may i ask how you insta buy alll boons?

[@hdim1]

How do you get that many divines per run?

[@ninjanothewise8214]

It's always a good day when Empy uploads

[@gehirndoper]

You get about 2% XP per Sanctum at lvl 99. I got my first lvl 100 character ever with that, and farmed enough for a mageblood doing it.

[@aladorn]

what is this MTX that change leveling up?

[@zyntril6404]

I don't see why this content warrants any sort of nerf. It's only a 10+ div/hour strategy with the best and most expensive relics and a super-fast build. It's garbage with shit relics and a slow build. The standard for currency farming simply needs to be raised. Instead of people thinking of 5 div/hour as being good, it simply isn't. I actively avoid all currency-making methods that are below 10+ div/hour, preferably 15, because they are terrible. 29:50 they are already decently rare its just that 1 sanctum takes like 20min and not to many people does it.

[@Glizzardacus]

I think this is the point people are missing about sanctum. It legit takes FOREVER versus ass blasting juiced maps. ESPECIALLY if you are not geared to the teeth.

[@soumyabratadas5740]

Just to point out, his setup (build/relics) is far from the most optimized, most optimized build does a sanctum every 10-12 min and the most optimized relic setup (+2/35% merchant) gets 7-8 div per sanctum on average. To note all you really need for a fast sanctum build is a mageblood + 20-30 div for rest of build. Also the +2/35% merchant relics are around 2 mirrors for a full set.

[@Glizzardacus]

@@soumyabratadas5740 I agree with everything you’ve laid out. But think about that entry cost. A mage blood + more for the build. Simply unobtainable for the casual player base. Then again, this game isn’t balanced around casuals (I have no opinion on that), so sanctum will more than likely get nerfed into oblivion next league.

[@sagi3933]

Only balance current Sanctum requires would be reduced drop rates of Tomes. As it stands now, they feel like they drop too often, but aren't worth selling due to lowly prices. If they were more scarce, prices would be higher, but still affordable, as it means mostly dedicated builds would run them then, still making large profit, but those that don't also get more value out of each drop and it feels better to drop them than it does now.

[@Noobintosh]

Feels like the books are rare enough as it is, they are cheap cause not many people want to run them

[@Glizzardacus]

This is the correct take imo. People don’t want to be bothered with an unoptimized build for sanctum to then fail the run with nothing to show for it. When they could’ve ran 10 maps on the same time and made progress.

[@aroace7913]

@@Glizzardacus Agreed, I would only run sanctum with a good build and relics.

[@Yashi1997]

Anyone have the Pobb of the build on this moment? I lost..... And I'm using for do my build 😢.... Please send to me the link!

[@dustinzhang293]

I was doing sanctum farming this league. I saw a mirror but killed by a one shot while still having a lot of resolve, which was very rare but really heartbreaking

[@Empyriangaming]

Ouch :(

[@cihan370]

You could have selled your run to someone else, you would have made less but no risk involved.

[@dustinzhang293]

@@cihan370 yeah but when you have a pass rate of 90% plus, I bet you won’t sell it either if the mirror shows up.

[@cihan370]

@@dustinzhang293 I dont know it depends how good the run is going and how much it sells for I mean if it's worth 95% of a mirror I would probably sell it.

[@dustinzhang293]

@@cihan370 btw how do you sell it in this league? Once I enter the fourth floor, the tome cannot be taken off

[@Nos0rozhek]

@Empyriangaming you probably missed quite a lot of profit not running at least 2-dupe relics for the runs. That would send your divs/hour into the stratosphere

[@БогданТелков-б7ы]

I have a friend which is running sanctums for a whole league and he says that double relics quite useless until u got the mirror reward. Because they cost around 1 div each and makes ur run tougher. And u sometimes even loose currency because u don't take any rewards except divines and only 2 div reward giving u profit

[@IsoYear]

glad to see im not the only one being randomly bad at sanctum haha

[@cambria9893]

As a ssf enjoyer I really hope they don't nerf book availability. Having content to target farm actual divines to meta craft with feels amazing.

[@_Aynix]

From 0 to Mirror flipping edition when ^ ^ I think people would lose their mind after seeing how much div/h you can make if you are good at flipping (mainly because no one does that, because you will lose ur mind after 2-3 days)

[@aroace7913]

Flipping is insance, literally made a mirror in 1.5 weeks lol.

[@xsnpxhoff8071]

I love sanctum I've run it once from campaign and never seen another tome again

[@jackwabbit9784]

I use those same 2 mtx in sanctum, actually helps so much

[@huabba1221]

I especially liked the part where you clicked the box and loot came out.

[@Empyriangaming]

Same!

[@goldenducky12]

I was running these with a specialised and min maxed character at around 12-13 mins per full run without try harding much, best time was 11 mins, so obviously the money/hr is insane if you can focus and blast sanctum WITH a specialised character.

[@GocmenAbi]

and whats that build ? do you have a guide for relics and room choices?

[@shinvveel5091]

Was anyone able to get the pob for this build?

[@aroace7913]

Don´t think drops of tomes need to nerfed, just a lot don´t run them and if they were twice time as rare as now I doubt the price would change a lot.

[@Max-qd2lf]

Got my first mirror drop in sanctum. Like a wtf one in a million random drop. But without the mirror, definitely I've farmed 500d doing sanctums. Plus i liked the idea of decision making which can make or break your run.

[@jnssmnsn]

What is an easy and fast sanctum runner that doesn't cost insanely much? Anyone know?

[@PlayGamesRideBikes]

Discharge slayer. Pretty damn cheap and fast sanctum runs.

[@saitosan1650]

relic of the pact under 20div is fine, avoid reduce movement speed tho.

[@AmbassadorDvinn]

shockwave totems. think i spent maybe 10-15 div

[@MrExeetor]

problem aint the Divs per hour or entry-cost. The problem is the influx of raw divines into the economy. You only need to add other rewards with high value. Stacked decks, fracturing shards etc. just to keep the amount of raw divines in the economy lower

[@Glizzardacus]

Bro fracturing shards and stacked decks would actually be sick. I think stacked decks actually used to be in the loot tables but they took them out for some reason?

[@SirLynX93]

God damn that is some satisfying editing :>

[@Siegram999]

yeah really good opinion on the books they are so common that i just bulk sell them really cheap cause i dont wanna run sanc but ik others really enjoy it. should have their drop rates tbh

[@RampagingKnight2]

MFW I'm bored and so I refresh my youtube and Empy uploaded a video 43 seconds ago :D

[@elman4141]

Terarria theme background. I dont regret to follow Empy

[@Olecanadiangamer]

Sanctum is one of those range attacks only mechanics. armour or evasion doesn't matter. your resolve just drops fast.

[@igortusinski9351]

Hit mirror today in pact after 300 runs

[@fefferryerr1818]

I don't think he can evaluate the costs/risks/rewards based on his play. He has relics and a build most won't have and he had a higher success rate than most would.

[@ThisIsToXiN]

29:45 - making a league mechanic expensive - unavailable for the casual players is the worst idea. I'm a casual player with almost 5k hours in poe and I love sanctum. However I will not spend half a divine to buy tomes to run sanctums. Most content I skip in the game is because they are overpriced/expensive and I don't wanna spend x divine just for trial and error to ease myself into the content.

[@Empyriangaming]

I feel like if you’re successfully running sanctums you’re no longer a casual player :D but yea fair point, they are really rewarding with good relics which is good, and even without you get a lot of good gumball currency

[@TheSwoon69]

You have played for 5k hours. You aint a casual bro lol.

[@ThisIsToXiN]

@@TheSwoon69I should not explain this but there is a difference between playing 1-3 houre a day casually or playing 6-10 hours running juiced out aura supported crimsons as efficiently as possible shitting and pissing myself to save time.

[@SonOfDiablo]

Empy Voice + Terraria music = Brain confuse

[@ZerFayt]

If sanctum does not get nerfed I know what I farm in 3.23

[@loudpls751]

Is Sanctum fun? Yes Goodbye

[@loudpls751]

@@ArnoldsKtm nope, look at the names

[@TheAluvisify]

@@ArnoldsKtm It made perfect sense. OP said "if sanctum does not get nerfed" and the comment basically that it will get nerfed because it's fun (i.e. it's "too" good). The irony of your comment is you tried to mask your question as a "rhetorical question" when you responded to a rhetorical question yourself.

[@oak7068]

The terraria music really hits hard. Love the nostalgia

[@TheKadanz]

sanctum is definitely getting the nerf hammer because 'fun detected'. If there's one thing GGG hates is its player base having fun.

[@licious6033]

"That's so harrd to see" while perma attacking lol. tbf it actually is kind of hard to see tho

[@BlazeTheDoja-qh1ey]

how do people hate heist but not hate sanctum? it feels so similar to me. in both the minions rarely drop anything worth it, your loot is rng'ed in a list (end room/floor rewards vs blue print reward), some waiting is required (waiting on a door feels like waiting on a room of guards to die), you run the same thing over and over, and there's traps too i guess. they both seem straight forward but there's a good bit of learning to dial it in to being good reliable currency. also heist is way more money. easily double what empyrian made in this video with the same time investment. i feel the market speaks to that as well. good blueprints are super costly and a sanctum book is 10c

[@Glizzardacus]

Only thing I can think of is that Heist is not completely randomized, you have a pretty damn good idea of what you're getting into. Sanctum is a mixed bag of shit at times

[@aroace7913]

Problem with heist are the waits, in sactum you just go plus you also can choose boons and afflictions in heist it is put in contract and go.

[@BlazeTheDoja-qh1ey]

@aroace7913 there is tons of waiting/ moving slow in sanctum. Also there are rogues + gear in heist which i feel is way more interactive than the same old boons and afflictions. You can roll the gear of your heisty boys and target what you want. Most of the boon /afflictions are the same thing anyway.

[@aroace7913]

@@BlazeTheDoja-qh1ey Gear in heist is a topic I totally forgot because it is such a pain and one big plus for sanctum and the waits for door and other things is longer than the ´´ waits ´´ in sanctum.

[@BlazeTheDoja-qh1ey]

@aroace7913 I feel you on that. Sanctum don't have that door bar that get interrupted over and over haha. It just feels bad when you are almost done with the darn door then boop...time to wait more. Also heist is pretty easy and sanctum is hard. If failed more sanctum than heists for sure haha

[@isoldmymumforrp5371]

Might not be the best div/hour strat, but i mean you get levels for free during it, Literally. Dont even need a crazy build to do sanctums. 0 Entrycost. No preparing, which other 15/h strats will have.

[@kidpwnz]

farming sanctum in 15~ min with 11 room visible for the past 3 days, have never had more than 4-5 pure divines... i think my char is cursed

[@Empyriangaming]

Doesn’t sound cursed. I did 150+ of them and only found 8 once, 7 twice. And that’s with 14-18 revealed.

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

And people wonder why everyone is asking for this to be nerfed into the ground.

[@Empyriangaming]

I’m still wondering. Why exactly? There are many 12+ div per hour currency farming strats, why is sanctum the one that needs nerfing in your opinion?

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

@@Empyriangaming I don't know of a single strat that really meets the 12 div per hour once you factor in trade time. Most of the ones claim 10 = 4 by the time you take time to trade everything away. This is not a dig on you at all or any streamer, but having an audience to buy up stuff really decreases your time to actualization on sales. Not for all of them but for enough of it to skew the hourly metric once you factor in trading off stuff that you can't do in bulk in TFT. More importantly, as you said in the video, the cost of entry for return is way too low. Compared to say juiced-up maps where you are multiple div in to see that kind of return. Thus keeping currency circulating in the market, whereas Sanctum just prints most of it.

[@aroace7913]

@@totallynottrademarked5279 Harvest can be up there if you really invest.

[@Duocek]

no mirror found

[@metalismychim6536]

Taht synchronised loot montage was pure sex

[@panda93247]

Talk about div printing... yeesh

[@fast1nakus]

nice editing

[@AzSa5z1n]

Step 1 mirror tier build

[@ivansabol4515]

81 div relic invest, so like you said "no entry cost"

[@ArnoldsKtm]

Does it cost you to enter sanctum? No it does not. You find a tome and you're in...

[@ivansabol4515]

@@ArnoldsKtm yes but you are not likely to get all the cool final drops as you can see in all sanctum videos, based on which are all the screams about sanctum being OP nerf it comments are based on. People think you just put first tome you find in league and you are printing 6 divs every run like nothing. I found +2 reveal relic every 25-30 runs so you can get there eventually on your own but you can do other things to outperform blind sanctums and earn enough to buy those and make your life much easier. I love sanctums and how little trading I have to do, but it's not something magical you can get going right away, with just 10c tome

[@Frozen6002]

its so annoying that you need reveal room relics. did 10 sanctums and got 4 div :c

[@ArnoldsKtm]

1 room reveal relics cost barely half a div. doesn't cost that much to fill them up and get it back few runs later. that is enough to get the ball rolling.

[@rot1010]

during the loot montage I was like DAMN he was listening to the same song on every clip? thats a gigantic coincidence. I gotta be retarded man

[@Empyriangaming]

Lmao

[@SadPanda94]

Cool video but sadly farmed on the worst possible strategy, wish there were people to give you a better idea on relics Empy ^^ Loved the video anyway as always ty ^^

[@chandlergordon8878]

After watching your video, I predict that next league Sanctum will be nerfed by adding charges to relics.

[@aroace7913]

That would legit kill sanctum.

[@chandlergordon8878]

@@aroace7913 yeah probably :(

[@mattbas-vi7750]

2:42 Did you just say "Pay to win"??? And the rich get richer. . . (jk)

[@Fertizis]

Nice, ty!

[@6brezze486]

Great job 👍👏

[@kasikcz]

terraria background music is just dope and kills me every time :D

[@jackdaswift]

Bro is playing Terraria Music in the background

[@nuffy3316]

Nice -- love your vids

[@junk3996]

a mirrow is 540 divines? what the junk? and within the same video the price goes up to 600 divines + 1 = literally 6 divines away? LOL "economy" its been awhile since i've played, but damn that sounds absolutely nutty

[@zro3317]

Did you notice he was wearing different clothes? This was over a 50+ hour period

[@junk3996]

@@zro3317 of course, but still. a couple days and it jumps 68 div? lol just crazy. even 540 div is insane. thats like double "normal" price