"Pointless Activity!" Mike Graham And Steve Berry TRASH Electric Cars Figures

TalkTV's Mike Graham and Former Top Gear presenter Steve Berry hit out at a new study that says electric cars have up to a third less range than advertised.
An investigation by What Car? magazine found a shortfall of up to 38% in the range of electric vehicles (EVs) in low temperatures compared with official figures.
Editor Steve Huntingford warned that the testing regime which manufacturers are required to put their vehicles through is “completely unrepresentative of real-world conditions”.
The magazine stated that official analysis under the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure (WLTP) is conducted in laboratories with an ambient temperature of 23C, with each model undergoing an “unrealistically gentle acceleration” to record what distance they can cover before a battery with 100% charge goes flat.
Mike says: "Every single statistic tells me they're not as clean as they're meant to be".
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[@yumidad]

A fake solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

[@jamesfairmind2247]

Brilliantly put.

[@rollyunicorn]

You nailed it.

[@santorini8423]

Yes it does. We are doomed. Greta told me.😂

[@dazzle52k52]

The assumption a EV is better for the planet is just plain wrong (unless you can guarantee the electricity to charge it, didn't come from burning natural gas, oil or coal) as it only transfers the carbon debt to another country.

[@Cardifftoyboy1]

A bit like Religion then!

[@judestevenson4943]

Electric cars are the beta max of transport!

[@lefuedebout]

Betamax was superior to VHS but was sidelined because Hollywood decided to issue their rental tapes on VHS for reasons unknown.

[@judestevenson4943]

@@lefuedebout i was always under the impression vhs out competed beta wad because of the porn industry?

[@maccagrabme]

VHS was inferior to betamax.

[@RS-ji2ui]

Loved my Betamax C6

[@drinkarsefeck]

Most of us buy used cars, EVs are out of our price range unless they're about 10 years old which is when the batteries are on their last legs, and the cost of a new battery makes the car worthless.

[@chequers5187]

I totally agree,a 10 year old ICE or EV ?. It' a no brainier for me.

[@andrewhartley3]

Not now if you want a smaller run around. eCorsa low mileage, couple of years old £12,000

[@bravo2zero796]

​@andrewhartley3 and in a couple more years time it'll be literally scap value

[@sandersson2813]

Most people do not buy 10 year old cars. Speak for yourself.

[@maccagrabme]

These things are only viable if average wages weren't deliberately being suppressed and there is a suitable energy infrastructure in place to supply clean efficient energy and that's not wind or solar, we all know what it is and you can't mention it here because of the C word.

[@rjw4762]

Most Car adverts now are for EVs....when will they get it - hardly ANYONE wants them ! My COusin lives in a row of 200 year old houses in rural Yorkshire....there is NO PARKING....perhaps someone in the Green Grift Industry can explain how she's meant to charge her car, when she HAS to park it 500 yards away !?!?!?

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

So, “hardly anyone wants them”. Do explain how the sales of EVs are growing year on year! Do explain how the sales of diesel cars has been minus 10% and 7% year on year over the last two months. Do explain, if “hardly anyone wants them”, BEV sals increased by 21% year on year in January but petrol cars sale only increase by 7%! As regards Tp your relative, EVs , at present, do not suit everyone BUT the rapid advances in Technology means they will before very long.

[@rjw4762]

The proportion of EV sales will of course climb, as they are starting from a very low number - sales of Diesels is a separate issue - I am replacing my Diesel with a Petrol next year as the price of the former is more expensive, and with more people WFH, I reckon less and less people see the need for a more economical diesel as they are doing less annual mileage. 3 years ago, the National Grid hypothesised that if all ICE care were replaced by EVs, we would need 3 new Nuclear Power Stations to cope with the huge demand for Electricity. I've no issue if people want EVs.....but do have if Government are going to 'force' us all to have one so that the Ice Caps stay untouched. Meanwhile BRIC nations laughing their heads off, I'm sure. @@geoffersvoiceofreason2534

[@leehenry5764]

​@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534Not anymore now subsidiaries are gone

[@gebirg1]

@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 If EV sales are growing why are Government ministers blaming Mr Bean for the SLUMP in sales?

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

@@gebirg1 Again, someone making comments without actually reading (or perhaps, understanding) the facts of a story. Probably you just listen to the commentators in the MSM or the clickbait grifters on KZbin. Name me one government minister who blames “Rowan Atkinson for a slow EV sales. Firstly, it was a comment made by a representative of the Green Alliance to a House of Lords committee. It was part of his comments about the incessant false misinformation being touted by a certain section of people. Secondly, it was a slowing in the rise in sales of EVs not a decrease or even stalling. Thirdly, are you disputing the actual figures collated and published by the SMMT? Who I think, know a bit about the topic.

[@derekwholden]

The depreciation on electric cars is completely horrific.

[@spice3767]

yep seen a video about the porsche EV....lost £55,000......in a YEAR....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fools and there money and all that

[@andrewhartley3]

No it's not it's wonderful - if buying second hand

[@jonnewman7203]

Lots of EVs were bought or leased as company cars because of the massive tax breaks which don't apply to anywhere near the same level for second hand cars, so as a consequence they're getting offloaded within a couple of years and there's now an oversupply leading to huge depreciation (as per the Porsche comment - lots of Taycans bought as company cars now offloaded and their price has bombed)

[@norwoodboy6048]

@@andrewhartley3 You really do not want to do that unless you are really sure of the battery condition.

[@Cardifftoyboy1]

Everything you buy depreciates....Try selling your used underwear expecting some of your money back.

[@saskia6750]

this guy clearly bought out with a back hander !!! What a shame !!

[@sandersson2813]

Who knows more about cars, motoring and the car industry, you or a Steve Berry?

[@saskia6750]

@@sandersson2813 Me ! been int motor trade before i left school,he`s a tv personality get a life goon !

[@charlesbridgford254]

The consumer is voting.

[@nigeltrueman6101]

@@sandersson2813i wouldn't trust steve berry

[@sandersson2813]

@@nigeltrueman6101 Why not?

[@Aloh-od3ef]

EVs failed 100 years ago for the same reason they will fail this time. It’s more efficient to fill up with a liquid. Then wait 10 hours to change. If an EV and petrol car started in northern Scotland and wanted to drive to Cornwall. They both had to refuel halfway. The petrol vehicle would refuel in 10 minutes at most! The EV will take 10 hours. Resulting in the petrol vehicle arriving in Cornwall, 9 HOURS and 50 minutes. BEFORE the EV Will 😉

[@stevenham1937]

Don’t talk daft. Of course it could be quicker but you don’t charge the car to 100% and you’ll be using fast chargers. A long range Tesla will realistically do near 300miles. A 45 minute charge on a fast charger will get you to 80%. Moray in north Scotland to Cornwall is about 700 miles and 12 hours of driving. The likelihood that in a petrol or diesel you’d drive 12 hours non stop is ridiculous. Even if you tough it out for 6 hours and only take one break you’d get there maybe 30-45 minutes faster if that. I get the point you’re making but using ridiculous examples makes you sound a bit silly and shows you have very little clue about some cars ranges, charging network and ability.

[@thehairygolfer]

@@stevenham1937 Assuming you can get on the charger. Last summer waits for chargers was as much as 7 hours.

[@ianbayliff2397]

​@stevenham1937 not everyone can afford a long range Tesla 😏

[@damianbutterworth2434]

@@ianbayliff2397 yes some of us just work in factories on low wages. No point getting a huge loan just to go to work. The calculations do not work out good.

[@martynsamsom8237]

The negative points highlighted here have been proven on other KZbin channels. Just look them up. Ev’s are only suitable for short journeys where you can charge up conveniently.

[@stephenhamer1702]

Who is paying Steve Berry....

[@norwoodboy6048]

Who is paying Quentin Wilson?

[@bigpants6121]

why?

[@JohnHughes2002]

Quentin Wilson and Robert Lewellyn. 😂

[@charlesbridgford254]

My thoughts exactly.... I hope it's a fat envelope because he's going from 'C' grade to 'D' grade propaganda merchant pretty quickly.

[@bigpants6121]

I'm sure they are given a free EV and told to whitewash us.@@charlesbridgford254

[@marklloyd4087]

I'm never going to buy one.

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

Good, you clearly haven’t the intellect to operate one. Means the roads are safer for the rest of us.

[@markellott5620]

@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 Ah, the ad hom. Well done.

[@polaris7122]

@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 hahahaha, intellect!!

[@G-Man..277]

​@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534Buy 3 then geoff. Have mine too

[@guestc142]

​@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534no idea what you mean by this because electric cars are automatic. backwards thinking in action I guess.

[@redpillmicky]

This guy says you'll have no choice,yet Hertz are getting rid of all the electric cars because nobody wants them and mercedes are stopping producing electric cars because of very poor sales

[@maccagrabme]

Is it any wonder when wages are being suppressed and the energy infrastructure worse than the victoriana era?

[@sandersson2813]

Mercedes are not stopping them. That's another conspiracy theory.

[@kevinashurst634]

sorry not quite true, check it out.

[@redpillmicky]

@@kevinashurst634 it's totally true, open your eyes

[@spsmith45]

Not true. Why on Earth write such nonsense?

[@peterdockerty8077]

All our insurance premiums have rocketed and all because of EVs. Yes when a EV gets in a crash they are written off simply because of the price of replacing the battery. The number of EVs that catch fire and lets not forget Luton Airport multi story park that went up in flames destroying hundreds of cars all caused by EVs

[@sandersson2813]

Insurance prices have gone up because of a shortage of parts for ALL car types.

[@mda5003]

Err, no. It was reported that the fire started from a diesel car - there was even another report that said a man in his 30's was arrested and bailed on suspicion of criminal damage. Yes, EV fires are difficult to put out but I don't think they catch fire anymore than petrol engines.

[@sandersson2813]

@@mda5003 They don't, it's just an urban myth.

[@kevinashurst634]

what a load of twaddle. Do you always just make stuff up?

[@emceedoctorb3022]

@@sandersson2813They don’t but what isn’t an urban myth is the fact an EV fire is virtually impossible to put out, produces way, way more toxic fumes and can randomly restart back up long after the fire has been extinguished.

[@haymish6943]

Four minutes to fill my diesel say no more

[@zitzong]

Diesel is king of fuel ⛽️

[@charlesbridgford254]

My EV fills in 10 seconds. Say even less.

[@charlesbridgford254]

@@dingopisscreek my point was, if you charge at home, then you never need to waste time at a filling station ever again.

[@haymish6943]

@@charlesbridgford254 I live in a apartment

[@charlesbridgford254]

@@haymish6943 Does your apartment have a fuel pump?

[@timwright8785]

Could be the richest man in the world and would still never buy an electric car

[@SimonWallwork]

True. The whole BEV thing is pointless.

[@annieluctor7524]

Berry talking complete bollocks. Like the vast majority of the motoring press, who sanctify EVs and appear to think that no other type of vehicle is worthy of comment. They seem oblivious of the fact that, out of the 1.903 million new cars registered last year in the UK, only 314,000 were EVs (of all types ), leaving a measly 1,589,000 ICE cars. Either the British motoring press is in the pay of the EV establishment or they've got their collectives heads up their collective arses.

[@sandersson2813]

That's 18% of cars being EV, that's pretty good at this stage of the game.

[@ghunt9146]

Force Steve onto an electric bike, that'll upset him!

[@melvynwoodman5787]

It’s probably only as high as that due to company car purchase incentives. Individuals using their own money would be mad to choose BEV.

[@annieluctor7524]

@@sandersson2813 16.5% actually.

[@sandersson2813]

@@annieluctor7524 Still quite impressive on a country that isn't well suited at present.

[@brianpiddock6074]

Last winter, BMW Development Director Frank Weber told German media the automaker is "working on a new generation of petrol & diesel engines.

[@consul6262]

Ford are doing the same.

[@markellott5620]

@@consul6262 And with good reason. The EV was always going to be a technological dead end. Even with better battery technology, it is still severely limited when compared to the efficiency of an ICE. Better fuel for the ICE is the logical way forward.

[@svtinker]

Porsche suspended production of EVs.

[@dungareesareforfools]

​@markellott5620 exactly, the only problem is with fossil fuels, NOT combustion itself. But we all know that there's more money to be made the more disruption there is.

[@garygrimmett7945]

Mercedes the same..ev. .con.

[@nockianlifter661]

Batteries are also 19th century technology. Gawd Berry is thick.

[@robbeales5516]

Dingleberry 😂

[@MC-nb6jx]

@@robbeales5516… Dewberry 😉😉

[@Aloh-od3ef]

In January, 3 London EV Buses decided to set themselves on fire. I wonder how many traditional buses did the same thing. During that time in London? It was 0 😂

[@99tisard]

Must have been a new year thing. New years Day, a post office EV van at Wakefield sorting office, selfcombusted and took 4 more with it!!!! 😂

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

Well, firstly, it was one London Bus and the fire brigade were there just over 90 mins. The bus was not gutted and was able to be towed away. Now, we are constantly told by the Anti EV clickbait grifters that you can not put out an EV battery fire and the whole vehicle is destroyed. So which is it? Secondly, I can tell you about diesel bus fires! 242 ICE buses caught fire in the previous 18 months! Only 6 of which were through arson. So, far, far more diesel buses catch fire.😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kevinashurst634]

a lot look it up.

[@TB-up4xi]

We have had EV's in Australia since 2013 - 200,000 on the road in 2023 - number of EV fires while charging in 11 years? = 0, Number of total EV related fires in 2023? = 4 (one of which was arson and 1 was a detached battery left in the elements) - number of petrol and diesels cars in Australia in 2023 (21.7million) number of petrol and diesel cars that caught fire in 2022 to 2023?.................................44,091 (not a misprint) , thats 1,035 fires per million ICE cars and 20 per million for BEV (if you include the arson and battery) It has been proven over and over again that BEVs catch fire around 50 times less frequently than ICE cars - this BS is harder to get rid of than flat earthers and rigged US elections.

[@KILKennyLaDa9898-js2nr]

@@TB-up4xi Watch MG Guy and learn.

[@TheGT73]

I intend to keep my 14 year old Merc diesel estate running forever.

[@oddjob7821]

I dont want one and never will.

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

Good, you clearly haven’t the intellect to operate one. Means the roads are safer for the rest of us.

[@charleswatson7281]

Steve Berry toeing the electric line. Electric vehicles are circling the drain - they are on the decline…nobody wants them they lose money hand over fist and they are ridiculous to insure

[@yggdrasil9039]

Global EV sales say otherwise. They were 13% of all vehicle sales last year up from 8% the year before, and the first two months of this year they are steering towards 20%. The trajectory is clearly heading in one direction.

[@sandersson2813]

The Tesla Model Y is the worlds best selling car. There's nothing wrong with electric cars IF you have the infrastructure. That's the problem in the UK.

[@yggdrasil9039]

@ivanhowell3461 It is getting built right now across the world. It's not there yet, admittedly, but it is progressing.

[@leehenry5764]

​@@yggdrasil9039Alot of them sales thou were in China. And now they are having massive problems. And sales are dropping fast.

[@kevinashurst634]

yet sales of new EVs in the UK keep on going up and up.........and you will love this sales of second hand EVs keep on going up.

[@richardbentley6781]

All this money on radio and TV adds and none are being sold. All the ex company electric cars are piling up and they won't let you near filming them. Who in their right mind would buy a second hand battery. That's all they are. A giant heavy battery.

[@paulwilliams5013]

..yes, heavy! They can weigh the same as 15 one cwt bags of coal.. who wants to carry that lot around. And.. the battery doesn't get any lighter with range.. as does a fuel tank.

[@songscoops4205]

The fraud continues....have you been had...😂

[@tectoramia-sz1lu]

Interesting to note that Ford and Toyota are both developing new internal combustion engines. After three years, it's unlikely your dealer will take your EV in part exchange.

[@mooncoinphoto]

Several car manufacturers have committed suicide by going EV.

[@stevenharrison9257]

I'll never own/lease/run an electric car; I'll be keeping my 5 fossil fuelled beauties.

[@bobbyaxelrod5016]

A man after my own heart - My thinking exactly.

[@leeshoesmith3286]

There's a chap on KZbin who decided to get rid of his porche taycan ev, he went to a porche dealer to part ex it for a 911, they wouldn't take it !!

[@kevinashurst634]

he is a total fantasist and spreads lies.

[@yellowperilbiker]

Will they shoot you if drive a Morris 1000? Suppose everyone said NO. Will not spend all the money I have in the world on a Chinese car. I will drive my old CRV for as long as possible. Arrest me. Arrest a few million?

[@mda5003]

Haha - You will not get arrested for driving an old car! The average life span of an ICE vehicle is about 20 years so they will be around for quite some time. So, unless you want a brand new car in the UK after 2035 keep whatever you've got - forever if you want.

[@LiveOrDieTryingLSA]

I'm with you bro.

[@bedazzled621]

' Electric cars, they are quick.' ..... Yeah, particularly when you're speeding along a motorway at 120 mph and you can't stop!

[@kevinashurst634]

turns out you can. The idiot has been arrested for dangerous driving etc

[@bedazzled621]

@@kevinashurst634 Yes, just seen that. Interesting.

[@charlesbridgford254]

Oooh I've been caught speeding, my car won't stop, honest!

[@paulpugh3966]

Who can see why Steve Berry is an ex Top Gear presenter

[@gordonhamilton727]

This guy is completely wrong. The ICE car is going to be around for decades. Ford and Toyota are developing engines that take carbon out of the atmosphere while re using spent carbon from the exhaust manifold. They will be way more efficient and cleaner than the petrol cars leaving the factories today.

[@maccagrabme]

Hang on, how does that fit in with a 15 min city? They want us OUT of cars, ice and electric.

[@kevinashurst634]

they will be. In some parts of teh world for a 100 years. In teh UK and europe they will be gone in 30 - 40 years.

[@gordonhamilton727]

Kevin, in 30 years from now ICE cars will be powered by Hydrogen.​@@kevinashurst634

[@jedjones9047]

Ev's aren't the future you don't have to be Einstein to see that billions will be lost' what a joke the political class have become 😂😂😂

[@johnwebster6360]

Not going to have a choice? Vote Reform

[@honestopinion253]

just don’t buy them

[@aib0160]

They also told us that when EV's were mass produced they'd be a lot cheaper yet they're still 25% more expensive than ICE equivalents and that'd despite all the subsidies and having to discount them because they're just not selling. Take away the 0-60 time and there's nothing better about them than what they're meant to replace.

[@mda5003]

But, have you noticed that new ICE cars are gradually going up in price. A brand new VW T-Roc now starts at around £30,000 and that still has scratchy door panels!

[@aib0160]

@@mda5003 Yes everything has gone up as inflation is still high and I dare say they're cashing in on reluctant EV buyers.

[@pilkipilki4472]

they are a throw away item like a mobile phone how will that save the planet

[@spsmith45]

Evidence? Batteries remain efficient for roughly 10-15 years. Look it up.

[@pilkipilki4472]

@@spsmith45 lots of ten year plus mobile phones around

[@simonclare-fu7sx]

reality is now catching up with the bull**it,if you have a narrow street in town with rows of terraced houses on both sides and no parking so you have to search for a space every day, then we all have electric cars so all need charging, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO !!! solve that first

[@heidimueller1039]

So you’ll have to charge it somewhere else. All these things will be worked out.

[@kevinashurst634]

64% of uk homes have a drive or garage, so lets solve the MAJORITY first and use teh technology lesson to solve the MINORITY,

[@polaris7122]

@@heidimueller1039 hahaha, that's a very intelligent answer!!

[@simonclare-fu7sx]

@@heidimueller1039 but you can't answer how can you, you just blindly 'believe' there's a solution to all the problems and you don't really care if there isn't because it doesn't fit your assumptions ? that's a mindless approach

[@simonclare-fu7sx]

@@kevinashurst634 again, no consideration for the population that doesn't have the advantage of wealth, space,charge points etc, a job that EV's can cope with on a practical level, or even a consideration that the grid cannot produce enough energy to accommodate everyone if we all cross over, let alone the shortage of materials and the destruction inflicted on the planet with the mining process, but you think it's a good idea ? think it through in more detail

[@davidsykes2721]

whos writing Steves checks

[@davidm-1965tb]

Steve is obviously on the take from his “sponsors”. And 60? He looks and acts 70!

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

So, because he has an opinion based partly on experience he has to be “on the take”. And resorting to ad hominem arguments ( attacking the person, in your case his looks, is not the way to win an argument. In fact it simply proves you have no argument.

[@sandersson2813]

Of course you know better than a renowned motoring journalist?

[@andrewmicas4327]

Why are they making them so fast, Wales has a 20 MPH speed limit. The village I live in you cannot get out without passing a speed camera 30MPH. Between the two fixed cameras have a mobile camera van on a regular basis.

[@damianbutterworth2434]

because people want to keep their status symbol. I just paint my bank balance on the side of my Nissan Micra to get the same effect.

[@leehenry5764]

Because they are faster on acceleration. Its instant power with EVs and they have more torque

[@andrewmicas4327]

I fully understand all the reasons electric car can have rapid acceleration, but they should be fitted with sensible speed limiters. I spent the last 30 odd years programming ac inverters to control ac motors. @@leehenry5764

[@stevewhite658]

How smug and arrogant is Steve Berry?

[@catastrophic009]

Steve Berry is delusional ! He is just another who thinks electric is b-all & end-all !

[@stevelawrence7111]

The electric grid is not sufficient for the total replacement of the current car stock. Also lorries and agricultural can not run on batteries.

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

More un researched drivel! The National Grid have already stated there is and will not be a problem providing the electricity.

[@kevinashurst634]

yes it can, and yes they can

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

More un researched drivel! The National Grid have already stated there is and will not be a problem providing the electricity.

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

More un researched drivel! The National Grid have already stated there is and will not be a problem providing the electricity.

[@shanecollie5177]

No it can,t the maths has been done , generation and transmission would need to increase by around 250% . The energy density of batteries make them useless for heavy transport and agriculture, Agricultural machinery needs to work continiousely for 14 or so hours per day, way beyond the capability of batteries@@kevinashurst634

[@rockatansky1305]

Yeah, I reckon Berrys on a retainer, he's in total denial !!

[@whitehart11]

Research should be in cleaner leaner ICE. Then hydrogen if we can make it efficiently

[@damianbutterworth2434]

JCB have made a hydrogen engine.

[@whitehart11]

@@damianbutterworth2434 Yes they back H2 rather than electric. But we have to develop a cheap way to produce H2, and store it.

[@damianbutterworth2434]

@@whitehart11 I`ve been saying that for 10 years when I first made hydrogen at home. Then I found out it was illegal to store it at home. Sure I`ve got one of them little hydrogen converters for cars kicking about somewhere in a shed. I might make a UTube vid if I find it.

[@kevinashurst634]

we can't change the laws of physics, sorry. Hydrogen in cars is seriously dangerous - too many idiots driving about.

[@charlesbridgford254]

Hydrogen infrastructure? Non-existent. DOA.

[@nockianlifter661]

It still takes hours to charge and there are very few places to charge them.

[@richardpeddie2060]

Hours ? tommny rot takes 30 minutes

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

20 or 30 minutes only on the road, if you are doing a long journey. There are loads of places to charge and they are multiplying by the day. Clearly, you have no idea what you are talking about. It is no surprise as all theses MSM types have an agenda against EVs for some reason..

[@diddyd8350]

Even longer in the extreme cold conditions. This was highlighted in a recent KZbin video over in the U S A.

[@bordersw1239]

@@diddyd8350. Does is commonly get to -35C in the U.K?

[@diddyd8350]

@@bordersw1239 don't know, never really look to see what it is on barometer but we have had severe frosts before now. I was merely pointing out what was happening over there.

[@thomas05ish]

My diesels range doesn’t disappear in cold weather or if I use the air conditioning. Berry is talking rubbish!

[@kevinashurst634]

my EV range doesnt disappear in cold weather or if I used teh aircon. Who told you that drivel????

[@thomas05ish]

@@kevinashurst634 try looking at EV carnage and you’ll see what I mean

[@charlesbridgford254]

My diesel Audi loses 20% of it's fuel economy in winter. Fairly normal for an ICE vehicle.

[@leslieiver1197]

One big con

[@69waveydavey]

Last time I saw Steve he was in a t shirt and slagging EV's. He is now wearing a suit and singing their praises, looks to me like he's been got to.

[@gjs321]

EV manufacturers keep pushing their poorly developed wares through endless and infantile adverts.

[@peakyblunder4613]

I know. Seen the Volvo one where they're up a mountain miles from anywhere! Yeh right! EVs can currently only be ultra expensive urban runarounds!

[@user-cc7ct1gd9m]

I remember people used to deliver milk in London with an “electric milk floats” through 1950,60 & 70s. But they don’t deliver milk anymore?

[@tonygray6587]

Pointless post!

[@paulwilliams5013]

..they still do where i live. 80 mile range 15/20mph...and they were designed many decades ago.

[@user-cc7ct1gd9m]

@@paulwilliams5013 their now called EVs😂🤣😂

[@user-cc7ct1gd9m]

@@tonygray6587 dear Tony just like everything these days, still stay happy

[@chrisburt1957]

Top up your diesel £50 and go 400 miles top up your ev £50 and go 150 miles hmm

[@stanleybuchan4610]

Not a hard choice mate, is it?

[@chrisburt1957]

@@stanleybuchan4610 unless you're using near home with your own charger then no

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

😂😂😂😂😂 . It is, at present, costing me £3.00 to travel 150 miles in my Kona EV. If I was to use a public charger at £0.75 per KWh it would only cost me £22. Do tell us where and on what you base your ridiculous figures!

[@kevinashurst634]

top up your diesel for how much???? roflmao, Top up an EV at home and do 250 miles for £8.

[@TB-up4xi]

I have spent less than £120 ($232) to go 14,900 miles in Australia and 95% has been home charging, with petrol at $2.40 a litre I would need to get 248km /l (700+ mpg UK) to break even - seems to work for me.

[@christinebakewell3475]

So what sort of EV can I get for my two grand budget?? I guess half the previous car drivers will have to get some decent walking boots.

[@sandersson2813]

Get a better job.

[@hobartmg]

The dealerships don't want to buy EV in part exchange they are becoming a throw away product like most electrical products.

[@kevinashurst634]

nonsense. look it up stop guessing

[@paulnolan1352]

Pity they’re not a throw away price.

[@DAVE3422460]

electric cars expensive gimmick

[@kevinfield4662]

If i am buying a Ferrari i want you to here me coming

[@sandersson2813]

You'll never be able to afford a Ferrari, you can't even spell "hear"

[@deltapafox3103]

In the 'small print' in my insurance policy it clearly states "we do NOT insure EV's.....

[@spsmith45]

Curious. We have insured our two EVs with mainstream insurers (Saga, GA, RAC) for several years.

[@GoodLifePublishing]

Hear that? Depreciation. No one wants them. Dealers can't sell them.

[@markstarmer3677]

At the present, they are not fit for purpose. Simple as that.

[@john68]

Guys a fool with money to burn obviously.

[@seewhatifound]

Even BBC football focus joining the propaganda about EV'S , nothing to do with the theme of the programme.

[@manchegocheese997]

Is this Steve Berry's grumpy uncle?

[@dungareesareforfools]

If combustion engines are 19th century technology, then so are electric vehicles.

[@mickyboy1955]

Steve reminds of the sort of bloke who will only drink tea if it's ''a proper brew'' and orders a pint for himself and ''a white wine for the little lady''...

[@johnsmith-es7zk]

If we all drove electric cars how would we generate all that extra electricity? Could our grid system cope when everyone charged their car overnight?

[@peakyblunder4613]

In a word, No 😊

[@tilkanash]

How much are the EV Companies paying Berry ?

[@bentonks7751]

There battery not electric, my tv remote and my mobile are not electric, neither are these cars 🙄

[@sandersson2813]

What do batteries produce?

[@sandersson2813]

If you knew anything about cars you'd know they are BEV's. Battery Electric Vehicles.

[@bentonks7751]

@@sandersson2813 oh sorry Captain Clever clogs, take it you drive one then?

[@sandersson2813]

@@bentonks7751 I do, and they are fine, but my caveat for them working is very simple and it's infrastructure, so I'm not being a zealot or a fan boy, I'm being very specific about WHEN they work. Those of you in the UK shouldn't be deriding electric cars, you should be deriding the lamentable infrastructure which isn't good enough in the UK. For the record I live in Norway, which is currently probably the only country in Europe where they make sense. I agree with you the UK isn't ready yet. PS. Your TV remote and phone ARE electric. They both use electrical power derived from the batteries within them.

[@bentonks7751]

@@sandersson2813Ok, valid points you make but this is my issue or issues. They dont save the planet due to manufacturing process. They are sold as electric and they clearly are not. They are too expensive They are too heavy. They are dangerous with the risk of lithium exploding,. The range is miss sold. They are too fast and the safety and speed awareness charities and the Police turn a blind eye to the performance all in the pursuit of saving the planet when they dont. Infrastructure poor. Il never own one, its an agenda product

[@WOLFIE-96B-UK]

I tour Europe regularly on my petrol powered bike, if I need fuel I just fill up in minutes and ride on. That's impossible on an electric powered bike. Unless you live in London and never go anywhere, all EVs are a total waste of time and money.

[@robbenson4598]

Utter tosh. Anyone who drives an EV wants to buy one. Anyone who owns one would never go back to ICE!!

[@consul6262]

Bloke up my road was singing the praises of an EV after he drove one, went out a brought a Tesla, since he got it never seen him driving it, its his missus school run car, all I see him drive is his VW van and a Mini Cooper. I keep meaning to ask why.

[@TB-up4xi]

@@consul6262 Well ask away - I have owned 42 ICE cars since the 70's from budget Japanse to high-end German and Australian and US muscle cars - After owning my first 2 EVs I can say with confidence I never want to buy an ICE car ever again.

[@DAVE3422460]

how do taxi firms with electric cars manage when someone phones for one and they sorry can’t come yet charging the car

[@kevinashurst634]

Taxis do about 150 - 200 miles a day. Well within teh range of a modern EV.

[@charlesbridgford254]

All taxis in my area are electric. Seems to be a good use-case.

[@user-lv5ij3zn9w]

You can might be a petrol head Mr Berry but have no sense of the fact that EV’s are a total sham.

[@user-vj9qh7qg3l]

No such thing as an electric vehicle. They would have to be plugged in continuously to be that. They are battery powered cars

[@petercoburn2362]

90% of EVs sold are still on the road. The other 10% actually made it home.

[@peakyblunder4613]

😂😂

[@worldofrandometry6912]

Fed up with this to and fro about EV and ICE cars. If you want an EV, then buy one and be happy. Let both versions exist until the infrastructure is up to speed and do not ban petrol/diesel cars until then. They should also consider the millions of people who live in flats and terraced houses with no possibility of home charging.

[@liveloud9894]

Any manufacturers who is “ done “ with ICE cars is “ done with “ full stop

[@rboz4637]

Listening to this I begin to understand why "UK" is a joke.

[@Everything_Evan]

Wow Steve Berry thought you were intelligent how wrong I was, you've lost all my respect.

[@MarekzAnglii]

Latest News... China: 90% of EV manufacturers are going bust. U.S.A.: Ford & GM have now halved, paused or stopped production of many EV models. Retailers can't shift them. EV buyers are reverting back to petrol/diesels in droves. Some retailers are now refusing to take EV's in part exchange. EV manufacturers are losing up to £30,000 per vehicle. Increasing number of Chargers are breaking down. Sometimes Charging points' software glitches and refuse card payments. Impossible to purchase Charger electricity with cash! Most garages still refuse to/can't fix EV's. Only 10% of mechanics have the skill to work on EV's. Breakdowns are becoming more frequent. Repairs are more expensive. Insurance is more expensive. Tyres are more expensive and wear quicker (as do brake pads). Depreciation is crazy. The cost of electricity keeps rising. On average official range is 30% less than advertised. Not even environmentally friendly (on the contrary). Plus MANY more disadvantages!!! Oh, and I almost forgot... an increasing number of EV owners are complaining and finding themselves stranded due to rats eating away at the car's wiring. The reason? To remain as 'green' as possible, the wire/cable shielding in many EV's is made of soy-based products and peanut oil is used for lubrication - and no, that's not a joke! Yum, yum!!! Hmm, so do I want an EV ??? 😂

[@TB-up4xi]

The best selling privately purchased car in Australia for Feb 2024 was the Tesla Model 3, Europe Tesla Sales were up 28% YOY YTD Feb 24, apparently someone still wants them.

[@user-ed9nw6yl8d]

Adblue. Electric cars are useless . I've had both they are a hindrance a pain in the ass

[@rayjay1441]

You'll have no choice, and there you have it !!!!! We always have a choice and the people say NO .

[@lee4171]

Berry talking bollocks, again.

[@russcoulson3477]

They are useless, totally and utterly. I don't care if they can do 0-60 in 0.01secs, with the accompanying whine of the electric motor....no thank you....EVER. Totally the wrong solution to a problem that is non existant...

[@heidimueller1039]

I don’t get this argument at all. What car in history has ever paid for itself? You spend a lot of money on any car and as soon as you start driving it, it depreciates.

[@oldmanonamotorbikeinbucks7604]

Bentley, the greatest British Car now produced by Audi, owned by VW resurected after WW2 by a British Soldier...

[@stanleybuchan4610]

The UK needs to have a cast-iron infrastructure before we commit to EV's.

[@charlesbridgford254]

I don't think cast-iron helps EVs.

[@sandersson2813]

Electric cars are perfectly fine IF you have the infrastructure, and the UK is nowhere near.

[@kevinashurst634]

you would be very surprised if you drove one. Its pretty good now.

[@sandersson2813]

@@kevinashurst634 I do drive one, but I live in Norway which is 10X better than when I've driven one in UK.

[@williamgeorgefraser]

I've got a 2006 Citroën C4 turbo diesel. The official consumption figure is 5.9 litres per 100 Kms (approx 48 MPG). With normal driving, it actually does 4.1 litres per 100 Kms (70 MPG). There is no way I am going to take Citroën to court for incorrect consumption figures. It's the best car I've ever owned and I hope to continue with it for many years to come.

[@clivelockwood3236]

You cant defend the indefensible electric cars are not green and utterly shite.

[@TB-up4xi]

LOL I have owned 42 ICE cars since the 70s from budget japanese to high-end German and Australian and US muscle cars - I still own 2 ICE and 2 EVs but I will never buy an ICE car again - the EV experience is just so superior if you have home charging.

[@Aspartame69]

Insurance companies are refusing to insure electric vehicles because no engineer is willing to declare a battery safe after even the most minor collision. Its impossible to vouch for every cell in the array and as such no one dare be responsible for burning down someones property.

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

Ah, the usual tropes. ICE vehicles are over twenty times more likely to catch fire than an EV. So, I hope you don’t park your car by your house. Re insurance n I have just yesterday, reinsured my EV at the same cost as last year. I also had two unsolicited emails from other insurance companies touting for my business. So, where do you get this ‘fact’ that insurance companies are refusing to insure EVs?

[@Aspartame69]

@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 Thats not the point, also that statistic is debatable. The fact is that a lithium battery is capable of spontaneous ignition and sustaining its own combustion. An ICE is not capable of that. No engineer will vouch for a battery after an accident which is why minor collisions are resulting in total write offs or battery replacements on more expensive vehicles, a 20k-30k repair. Thats why regular insurance is getting more expensive, and why some EVs are practically uninsurable. Ive seen accounts of EVs being off the road for 3 months waiting for a battery because transporting something so bulky and heavy is just unfeasible. If you want an account of the insurance situation google the electriccarguides breakdown of the issues.

[@damianrobey909]

When I fill up my diesel and is says on the dash something like 600 miles to empty, that's what I get

[@hondablack1]

Steve Berry is now officially, an old git, with the attitude to match Victor Meldrew ! 🤣

[@Yournamehere9160]

We ban them from site already lol

[@Wiganpilot]

There are many arguments against EV's, but why buy a milk float that lands you in deep negative equity only a few years down the road? They are soon to be taxed possibly more than petrol and diesel cars, insurance is expensive, tyres are a special compound that costs more but wears down quicker, road side charging is ridiculously expensive, and if you don't take care of the battery it can cost anything from £7'000 - £50'000 to replace which is more then the car is worth by then. EV's are nothing more than a tactic by the Government to force the average family off the road and on to public transport, transport that is not fit for purpose, expensive, and not even running when most people need to travel to and from work. Diesel and petrol cars run so clean these days because they have to in order to pass the latest laws, they should leave well alone and stop picking on ordinary average families that need a car more than the rich.

[@fredbear-sf9st]

Where are you going to bury all the non recyclable batteries at the end of life? The hole in the ground will be the size of Mount Everest and you will contaminate your ground water at the same time.

[@TB-up4xi]

With all the dead leprechauns and unicorns - non recyclable EV batteries don't exist.

[@davetdowell]

It's far worse than that, the range is irrelevant. If you go and buy a new ICE car today, it will still be a viable ICE car in 15 years. If you go and buy a new EV car today, it'll be a non-functional EV in 15 years, with a dead battery that will cost you and arm and a leg to replace. They've turned Cars into Smart Phones, that need to be replaced (at vast expense) on a regular basis. Leaving behind a battery full of toxic heavy metals.

[@Mariazellerbahn]

I'm surprised at Steve Berry. Talking absolute bolloskc

[@richtee9888]

Steve Berry always chases the dollar from anyone who waves it at him

[@davidk3729]

I recently had a heart pacemaker fitted. Book of instructions advises to keep away from strong magnetic fields, including airport security arch, running alternators, no mri scanning. No mention of electric vehicles, which a Google search says is not a problem. Strange that as there’s half a ton of battery cells under your feet and a 50 - 100 kilowatt electric motor up front. That’s similar power as an mri scanner.

[@kevinharker1840]

Is Steve Berry getting a wage from promoting EVs?

[@charlesbridgford254]

Not any more. Shell signed the cheque this time.

[@bobstirling6885]

When they start with the horse analogy you know they have no argument.....