Points & Operation Magic Carpet -1945 (Featured In Band of Brothers)

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A portion of episode 10 of Band of Brothers focused on the 'points system' introduced by the US Army to reward those troops who had been in active combat with an early ticket home.
It didn't come without problems however..

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@iamrichrocker 3 ай бұрын

this is the first, indepth, explanation of the points system..great job..still consider your channel over looked and under rated..you surrely deserve much more subs/views..keep up the stellar research and great presentation..

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@l4c390 3 ай бұрын

The most impressive thing about the rotation system was that the Army had started planning for the return two years prior to the end of the war. Interesting fact. In the UK the Army permitted soldier to attend school full time on the Army's dime in exchange for taking a later trip home. The University of Cambridge established a college just for American service members from 1945 to 1947.

@danwallach8826 3 ай бұрын

George Marshall was brilliant.

@l4c390 3 ай бұрын

@@danwallach8826 Unfortunately, our personnel system won't permit the creation of another Marshall today.

@kitkatfisher7018 3 ай бұрын

Always wondered about this system, I served 88-96 and on tours the Married guys were always advance partied back home. Never minded as I was single with no kids and never held it against them. Funnily enough they weren't allowed to ' volunteer' either (edit to add)

@ClayinSWVA 3 ай бұрын

This is one of the reasons why we had Task Force Smith do so badly in Korea in 1950, everyone pretty much went home in '46. The only people were left were some garrison troops in the Japan and Germany. Also, it's why we had a huge ghost fleet parked because we had no sailors to man them.

@macmccollum6064 3 ай бұрын

Interesting. My Dad had 77 points by June 1945. He volunteered for the Invasion of Japan. He left Germany on June 30, 1945, got a 30 day leave in the US, then reported to VII Corps HQ in San Luis Obispo, CA in early August 1945, just before the bombs were dropped on Japan.

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

Thats a great story thanks for sharing.

@davidcoleman757 3 ай бұрын

So glad I subbed to you channel. This was another fascinating post.

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@theallseeingmaster 3 ай бұрын

My dad was seasick, the whole time, both ways; the man hated the waves.

@davidcoleman757 3 ай бұрын

My great uncle Percy was in the 8th Army. He went to Egypt via South Africa. The sea was so rough outside Durban they had guys who died of sea-sickness. He was never a fan of boats in later life.

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

Even Audie Murphy suffered terribly from seasickness.

@theallseeingmaster 3 ай бұрын

@@War_And_Truth Dad is in good company.

@rob_in_stowmarket_uk 3 ай бұрын

Yup… Reading David Kenyan Webster’s ‘Parachute Infantry’, members of Staff Companies were often granted spurious medals, never having been in combat, and frequently got home before brave and hardened fighters. As ever it’s not what you do, but who you know.

@dh5516 3 ай бұрын

How do you know they were "spurious" awards? Do you think only trigger pullers are responsible for winning battles, and achieving overall success in war?

@MM22966 3 ай бұрын

They must have had to put a guard detail around the BN S1 sections when the Point system went into effect.

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

With the consumption of alcohol going on id say there was a very high presence of guards around all HQ's

@MM22966 3 ай бұрын

@@War_And_Truth Well, I meant specifically the Personnel (S1) sections. All that sudden need to make sure your paperwork is updated/points allocated and the stress, it would have been like a slow-motion soccer riot with guns in some units.

@tomw324 3 ай бұрын

The USS Enterprise was involved in Operation Magic Carpet and made three trips to Europe to bring servicemen home. On one of those trips British Admiral Sir Albert Alexander awarded the ship an admiralty pennant in honor of her service in the Pacific. I think that may have been one of the only times one was given to a ship of a foreign navy? Dont quote me on that. If they ever do another BoB type series I think the career of the Enterprise would be a great subject although after Masters of the Air which I thought was somewhat mediocre, not sure I would want them to.

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

Great story, thanks for that.

@raymondvia3786 3 ай бұрын

The Korean War was just 3 years after the elimation of the points system. 1947 to 1950 wasn't very long to consider another War was brewing. Korea was the last war I think that things were honest to a degree. Controversy exists in any War its sad WW2 had its largest share of it. Nobody goes home to civilian life unscathed. My Kate uncle flew B-17s from Kimbolton England with the 379th Bomb Group. He flew his missions in his sleep jo doubt but never told us nephews and niece's. My grandfather 81st Wildcat Division WW1 severely gassed, came home to die age 42 in 1937. Justxa reminder families suffered too from a veterans PTSD and bad memories

@raymondvia3786 3 ай бұрын

Oops I meant late Uncle

@longtabsigo 3 ай бұрын

Operation MAGIC CARPET was a mind boggling plan for the return of troops, there are cool photos of the ENTIRE hanger areas on aircraft carriers with hundreds of cots and of course an omission. The first trip by a converted aircraft carrier demonstrated how planners, no matter how good they, sometimes forgot about the little things. Imagine 1,000+ men, cots touching in most places (if the bunks had not been built yet) all getting seasick without buckets or acceptable catch basin.

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

It couldn't have been comfortable being on an aircraft carrier with than many men. Pretty memorable experience though.

@roberthilton5328 3 ай бұрын

Were there specialty troops like Combat Engineers and certain logistics units who after VE day were exempted from the points system until VJ day?

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

They seemed to have had enough replacements to not have to hold anyone back for The Pacific. I'm sure there would have been exceptions.

@yinsoen 3 ай бұрын

They should’ve had a category for soldiers who volunteered. How did the army verified soldiers having kids back then?

@War_And_Truth 3 ай бұрын

Good question. And what about the kids they were having in England in 43-44

@ryanh4775 3 ай бұрын

My grandfather was a mustang officer who got a battlefield commission while in Europe and the fact the army went from 8 million to 600 hundred thousand and change shows that not even officers were immune from getting their discharge papers.