POISON Thorn Build - SOLO Grandmaster Nightfall - Moon Battlegrounds Heist (PLATINUM) Destiny 2

[@Chablo91]

Try to watch a little bit more than usual if possible please kind folks, there is useful info in this such as: Champ AI Patterns Thorn Poison Build Covered Add Management Plus Positioning

[@SemiuAlli]

I'm assuming the 10 percent strand damage reduction applies to the energy slot with permeability

[@Chablo91]

@@SemiuAlli I don't know that tbh, no I'm referring to the perk uptime of perma you need to swap to your heavy when this happens you loose perma element quite quick and cant get it back so easily unless you are using some class ability build which are generally niche anyway. Osmosis is stronger than perma

[@nmh2105]

Watched the whole thing. Helpful tips indeed. Appreciate the work you do and enjoy learning from your content.

[@brannonshea8424]

Watched till the end, thank you 🙏

[@scalf_]

@@SemiuAllicame here to ask this

[@stephenlight4095]

Great videos,love the work you put in so informative,I’m a 69 year old player coming up to 70 in may ,thoroughly enjoy watching you do these Gm runs watch the whole video,reflexes aren’t what they used to be but hey still enjoy trying to play ,no where near your skill level or knowledge of the game ,but still try my best ,watch all your videos, keep up the great work 👍

[@Chablo91]

Everyone who lives from now to 20 to 30 years from now will experience reflex decline. Wow 70 sir you must have lived a real good life to be playing now. Most ppl can't work KZbin at your age. So really well done my secret is coffee tbh but I want to try and retain reflex past 40 if possible

[@19boggsy]

I'm also in my 60s, but I must be different because I watch every minute of your vids because of the information you provide throughout. Keep up the great work.

[@chrono2959]

You're right "shoot to loot" on Thorn would be awesome actually

[@dham47]

I will watch the entire vid. Appreciate the effort. Thank You.

[@Chablo91]

Great effort thank you so much :)

[@unforgiven9696]

TBH i personaly watched every second of your GM videos i enjoy the comentary because its tells me more about the gm where to be more carefull and overall very usefull information. I prefer videos like those so i can understand the game better . Keep up with the good work man .

[@jocabrera0809]

Your comments on positioning are always a game changer, at least for me!!!

[@MRATA3]

I love your longer videos especially with commentary, I've watched you along time and you do deserve way more subs but happy to see them steadily rising!

[@delias74]

Great info on the battery captains - I always get stuck at the battery phase, so this is a big help. Cheers!

[@stephenlight4095]

Thank you for your reply,I really appreciate that,didn’t expect that,keep up with the great videos 👍

[@INFINITYREALM]

Really love these breakdowns. I saw a recent testing video that major spec is better then boss for champs. I'll have to go back to your vid and see what you were saying.

[@Rhukzy]

Arman GT have a good video called “The Essential PVE Movement Guide” with good tips how to handle champs & majors, and how you can use their AI against them.

[@Chablo91]

That is something. I encouraged him to make said video. I know him from the old GM rotation he done it right true. Champ AI wasnt covered in this video though. That was movement 101

[@INFINITYREALM]

I find I end up watching your Gm videos all the way through because of all the tip nuggets. However with other channels who are not commenting, I will usually skip around and watch 10 -15 min total.

[@SemiuAlli]

The absolute goat of pve, UK humor!!

[@Chablo91]

Ohh thank you sir appreciate ya :)

[@leymcdonald1790]

The thing with your videos is I mostly check the parts I’m having trouble with. I do watch a little extra to listen to your opinions too, which I find interesting.

[@Chablo91]

Good this is by design the timestamps will help you do that. Buy yh just a few extra mins makes all the difference I appreciate it greatly :)

[@IAmTetsuo1]

Love the thumbnail design.

[@mattadair6108]

Great video, as always

[@Armando-Nu]

Hey this is kinda random, but what is the weakness to permeability? 😅

[@Chablo91]

Im gonna try this strat again lol. Perma is weak due to stowing your gun and losing the element. Day to day gameplay revolves around swapping to a heavy weapon. Perma is only viable on maybe a heavy or primary and its very niche

[@DryRot69]

People aren’t that smart then. Shows the culture that has been cultivated with social media and instant gratification. If something takes work, time and practice, they don’t do it. They want the prize now. Well, if you don’t watch, learn, emulate, and then do said thing, you will fail. And once enough of the player base complains, things get nerfed. Satisfaction of learning, doing and beating hard game content is the best reward. Anyway, any and all of your vids should be watched fully. People would learn to play the game properly watching your vids start to finish.

[@GhostofTatooine]

Great tips on isolating the champs. Hate it when the “Hold hands”. Seen a few videos when this happens and it takes sooo long to take them down. Love thorn putting in the work. So many damage numbers on the screen. Not great on a Warlock but working him up to level now, so may try the build combo.

[@gascarborough]

good vid as always. whats the weakness?

[@Chablo91]

The weakness is stowing the weapon. I tried perma with a heavy rocket but it did not work out well. Perma should be a 20 sec timer instead. You are gonna need to swap so you will lose the element quickly

[@Sebastian.Van.A]

I think it was last season with the arc i did this one. Really enjoyed that! Great GM! Very solo friendly

[@GrandmaDestiny]

Great and very safe run! I was running a Master Nightmare hunt solo and noticed Indebted was so slow to stun barriers in Zydron NH that on had to prefire. Annoying but it has lots of ammo yet exposed one to hive boomer Champs. Switched to Wishender for faster stuns.

[@bigeasy3923]

I feel like that sidearm is essential for this strategy, but I don’t have that dungeon unfornightly.

[@Chablo91]

It defiantly is because of barrier sidearm. In your case you could use a solar scout rifle for barrier rounds with the Artifact mod.

[@ChaosRaych]

Ooh! This looks fun! I've been trying out different builds on this one, but I find myself crutching invis for the final room. What I dislike about Weavewalk is you can't do or carry anything in it. But I'll definitely give this build a go! I think it'll be really strong in Onslaught

[@metacyclic]

Love the commentary runs. I feel like TikTok has ruined longer videos like this. I like them. I won't ask about permeability since someone else already has :)

[@Chablo91]

Have you heard tik tok to be banned soon also there might be a shining light for long format content. Watch time hours are meant to be king so fingers crossed.

[@liamjordan3068]

Cheers for the cheese points - never knew exactly how to do the first one and the boss room only had an idea about the back pipe but that has a kill screen that got me.

[@Chablo91]

Its a no turn back zone. Stay left of pipe but not so the boss can see you.

[@liamjordan3068]

@@Chablo91 Yeah I seen for your way coming up to front pipe you get that turn back, there’s access to the same area you get but from the back pipe end of map but has a kill screen. Yours is miles safer than that way so I’ll use that now.

[@Chablo91]

So you did a different strategy then. Yh make sure you its the same pipe best of luck 👍

[@liamjordan3068]

@@Chablo91 yup but I’ll use yours now. I ran a GM with someone running your exact building here, it was impressive, do you know if 2-3 can stack running this poison build or will they over lap like witherhoard and dragon breath over lap detrimentally 🤷

[@Archizombie]

Permiability is no osmosis, but it isn't bad!

[@Chablo91]

This is accurate

[@voidomable]

Deconstruct is actually very good on this gun.

[@Chablo91]

I would prefer jolt for PVE though, yh its not too bad I suppose

[@thannosswakajini9385]

Great vid man. Had a question about the machine gun. I'm at 3/5 for pattern. I have a feeding frenzy/incandescent roll and I love it. Why did you make a enhanced field prep/incandescent over a feeding frenzy one?

[@Chablo91]

Field prep allows you to spam ammo. Feeding frenzy not needed for this. Just use solar holster mods. Field prep gives fast reload just crouch. Field prep is one of the best GM perks in the game. Try out field prep as it stacks with scavenger mods.

[@thannosswakajini9385]

@@Chablo91 will try if I get it to drop. I need a few more red borders.

[@Chablo91]

@@thannosswakajini9385 enhanced field prep gives you 400 bullets. I cant stress enough to use this perk. Good luck 👍

[@Rispono]

Saw you're answer on😮 permeability nothing permanently about rhe perk it would seem,also i did a bit of testing with both perma and osmosis,and there both Not really classed as solar in the game,for examble if there's a solar bounty up with the gunsmith you can't complete it with permab ore osmosis, you can however extend radiant and restoration with it, which is more important i guess 😊 just f.y.i

[@Chablo91]

Okay interesting I see. Lmao yh so far apart from permanent ha, I think a 20 second timer would suffice instead. There could be other weird consistencies like strand doing less damage than kinetics etc. Someone mentioned before wonder if your damage is nerfed

[@chipsawdust5816]

Shit I had a running comment and at the end of the video the browser went to another page - lost it all. I love the tip on sliding down the stairs in the boss room. Gold medal advice there. I had about five comments and that was about the last one. I have two patterns for that LMG and only two copies left so I'm not going to be able to craft one unless I run that dungeon again. Great video as usual, thank you. The longer ones I've been here for all along, but the shorter ones with game advice are also good and it appears it's bringing in a few more subs so proper move, sir.

[@ExtraHecticana]

Adagio on the indebted kindness is surprisingly good. I have been using it and it already shoots pretty slowly anyway, so it shoots an unnoticeable amount slower but does a noticeable amount of extra damage. So it helps conserve ammo. My roll has the tracking rockets and adagio. I've found myself using it more than my voltshot roll

[@Chablo91]

Okay next roll i get i try mate. Interesting stuff, a great gun but not too easy too farm tbh

[@JoeDoggers1999]

What's the weakness with permeability???? 🤔

[@giovannibovino4119]

What’s the weakness? I been loving mine with permeability 🤷‍♂️ but open minded

[@Chablo91]

having to stow the weapon and loose the element. Its a huge factor to why its perk up time is low. This perma is only good if your trying to do something really niche with strand. Are you doing smething with strand I bet you are

[@simonhall1328]

I still think the Thorn could do with a couple more bullets in the mag.

[@Chablo91]

13 bullets would be ideal the reload is also slightly too slow even with loaders

[@simonhall1328]

@@Chablo91 by the way, I watch all the way through when you upload. Probably because I'm in my 50s and have good attention span😂

[@Chablo91]

@@simonhall1328 this is true. Older ppl just don't do things by half respect man 👍👍

[@bigbadbear1965]

Okay new here why the Playstation logo splash at the beginning of the video.

[@Chablo91]

People historically think I'm on PC, to avoid confusion this 2 second intro tells you straight away im on console. This is the only reason.

[@nmh2105]

What’s the weakness to permeability?

[@liamjordan3068]

Stowing it basically is its weakness.

[@philiphayes1470]

Great share as always, thank you. Would like to touch on comment/reasonings on Data and why he's not doing certain types/size vids. This is only my opinion, when i started with d2(arrivals) Data(such a knowledgeable guy) vids help me out in the beginning but to me he's a team(leader)playing guy and that knowledge is passed on in game. I play solo 90/95% of the time, your vids style/format teach/show me the how to improve by listening to the do's and dont's, why's and why not's. Different audience, different formats. No disrespect ment. I'll watch any d2 vid you put out because your second to no one... "👍"...

[@MrNooB-kb9gb]

I think its decent in rare cases but whts the weakness about permiability?

[@Chablo91]

Stowing the gun you lose the element straight away. perma is only strongish on a primary. Its essentially a worse version of osmosis. Volt shot would be far better

[@MrNooB-kb9gb]

@@Chablo91 it would mybe better if it would change damage type on the base of subclass you are using

[@fraleb527]

isn't it an option to cut GMs in like 3 or 4 parts to upload one day after another one part, like that ? so users can pick the parts where they have problems and the videos are not to long. i mean i watch your full videos anyway ;)

[@the.DARKNE55]

Permeability is awsome but only really on hunter. Ive been using it with solar artifact, grrfalcons and obviously great on strand

[@blicktucker8036]

Chablo with the green drip 👀. I see you bro

[@Chablo91]

the shader? ohh yh neon jungle man :)

[@ebates72]

Permeability? Now back to video

[@Chablo91]

Stowing is its weakness. You will lose the element very quickly and then you have to wait for a class ability back. It will fill certain roles in builds but the application of this perk in builds is very niche and more novelty than anything. You can make a small case for strand maybe.

[@ChaosRaych]

I agree. I think it's best on Hunter bc you can spam dodge more often than rifts & barricades, so stowing isn't as much of an issue. But overall, it's kinda meh, especially on a weapon that's already Energy. The thing that makes Osmosis good is that it turns Kinetic weapons into Energy, which boosts build synergy. It's odd to me that they keep putting Permeability on weapons that already have an Energy damage type

[@Chablo91]

​@@ChaosRaychosmosis kingg. There you go you know the score. I have been using osmosis for literally years. Perma needs a buff give it a 20 second timer then I'm happy to use on any class.

[@11superblues]

Great chat as all ways. PS all ways watch the whole video

[@JoeDoggers1999]

Oh I almost forgot... Indebted Kindness slaps the chieftains around which comes in handy in the boss room. They stagger like drunks 😂

[@MayIOwnYou]

Let’s talk about how Warlocks are the only class in the game that has an aspect that provides only 1 fragments slot AFTER Bungie made it clear they were done with Aspects having 1 fragment slot after the update that changed all the aspects that had only 1 fragment slot 😂 I swear they are afraid of/hate Warlocks for whatever reason

[@Chablo91]

Yh i remember reading such thing. Weavewalker is kinda bad aint it

[@andrewkappler5503]

What shader is that

[@Chablo91]

It is neon jungle

[@andrewkappler5503]

@Chablo91 thanks and for the record I watched your whole video lol has to be frustrating making these long ones and people leave after 10min

[@tylerlloydboone]

Thorn strand warlock looks fun gotta try it

[@Chablo91]

Its defiantly decent with such a setup like this. I wonder if things like Riskrunner will synergise with weaver's trance etc.

[@GhostofTatooine]

Okay, 35 mins in and am still learning stuff. To be honest though, I am just as guilty at not watching till the end, as my level has not been high enough to actually go into a gm. Now though, I can and will watch them more to learn the mechanics etc.

[@term3092]

Niceee

[@Gemini2thecore]

So how do champions work? Haha jk great video, Chablo! Now, what's up with a permeability weakness?

[@Chablo91]

Permeability is essentially osmosis once you stow the weapon which you NEED to swap to your heavy you then lose its the new element. This would only be good on either solar or strand. I think its not that good of a perk tbh and I think volt shot or even surrounded would be better on this sidearm. Thanks man :)

[@Gemini2thecore]

That is a great point! Once Bungie got rid of shield matching, osmosis was rendered obsolete, so permeability is following the same path. That will make cleaning my vault easier!

[@senna3507]

Good job👍👍👍

[@captainwin6333]

The strand super is annoying if there's enemies near or between you and your chosen target. It tracks off from the intended target. I'd much prefer if it went where you aimed it without tracking issues.

[@Chablo91]

This is what i experience aswell

[@sawyerbrown19111]

You need indebted kindness without it all sidearms fall short of reach for the 3 barriers there in the beginning. But thats nothing against the vid. I did watch to the end i personally love long form content but i get not wanting to slave away for not much to gain. I do appreciate the talkthrough. Great vid

[@Chablo91]

You definitely want indebted kindness or run a solar weapon like a scout or bow with no mod. You get a barrier for free. I tried stracato before this run worked well for barriers.

[@tjb1001184]

just made it all the way to the boss and he one shot me as i was jumping up to the triangle on the bridge. frustrating.. grrr so close

[@Chablo91]

Were you using void resist? It can happen with void scorn being bugged

[@tjb1001184]

@Chablo91 yea 1 void with 1 concussive. I was gutted but happy cause I've never got that far

[@LCPZ]

I do wonder what loot to shoot would do if it was a perk😂

[@Chablo91]

You would throw an engram at a heavy brick 😂

[@LCPZ]

@@Chablo91 best perk fr lmaooo

[@aknautilus6753]

Just a bit of criticism as a new viewer who watched your whole video the rant you went into almost made me turn it off.

[@pedropacheco5729]

No, no, please keep doing the long format videos doing the GMs.

[@Chablo91]

Watch time needs to go up I have a few tricks up my sleeve on how to maybe get higher.

[@pedropacheco5729]

@@Chablo91 I hope more people actually start watching the full length of your videos. I have been following and listening to you for a few years now and I can honestly say your tips and tricks on the GM runs have made me a better overall player. Keep up the great work. Maybe you could also start taking some guardians through GMs??? And post videos on how those runs go?? I know at that point it won't be solo but could be nice to see some group runs. Or maybe do one with blue gear?

[@vincethegreat3066]

I like Thorn. Just wish Titans could play more into that poison build fantasy with it and Ostreo. @Chablo91 any build you can recommend for hours modes coming on 04/09 with a strong playable loop? I am really only looking forward to the update now. The game is desperate for new content.

[@Chablo91]

Any builds to recommend for ITL? Erm probably try out devour with buried bloodline on classes with no healing such as stasis/ behemoth for example. Try out Karnstein armlets for warlock with glaives especially for dungeon literally insane. I suppose you want more titan, well meta obviously being both solar and strand. Because in onslaught you defend the area maybe try HOIL with void titan it may come in handy bubbling the reactor thing plus constant void over shield's. Try out the helm precious scars its really good now with proccing HP. I dont have a tonne of builds on titan to share due to them latley being 1 dimensional.

[@navycop79]

What’s the weakness with permeability?

[@Chablo91]

simply stowing the gun. The perk uptime is low for most builds you are using it has niche application for example making a strand weapon in your energy slot. There's just better perks for the sidearm like surrounded or volt shot

[@jacksonstokes4122]

What’s the weakness of permeability?

[@Chablo91]

I did further testing tonight. Perma is a weaker version of osmosis. Osmosis procs on nade, perma on class ability. There might be some use case on strand hunter. But even then its niche application. Theres no need for 3 strand weapons i tested it tonight its just strand for strand sake. The better perks are surrounded or volt shot.

[@jacksonstokes4122]

@@Chablo91 thank you for the info. I know you base a lot of your opinion on the utility of things in regards to end game content (GMs), so things that seem pretty good and useful some content doesn’t quite have the same impact in other content. Thanks for pointing these things out. Btw I love your videos and commentary.