Poison - Untill You Suffer Some (Fire & Ice) | Jay Leno 1993

Poison performing "Untill You Suffer Some (Fire & Ice)" on Jay Leno's show.
07 May, 1993.

[@MsCatco]

Richie Kotzen deserves to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Amazing talent!

[@cendyjara]

Indeed!

[@kwatogsatx]

incredible stage presence too!

[@djcease1996]

@@kwatogsatx Bret has better stage presence but Ritchie definitely has got it as well.

[@MrShenanigans28]

Lol for what. He was in a has been glam rock band who was well past their prime. And now he's in a band that barely has anyone's attention. What has he done to deserve to be in the rock and roll Hall of Fame. Most people have no idea who he is.

[@Gamer25ize]

Respect to Poison to carry the spirits of glam well into 1993 when this sort of music was completely shunned by the music industry then.

[@jeffcordova9633]

Native Tongue is my favorite Poison album

[@michelelaraia7358]

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[@rockninja10002]

All these years later poison has alot of great songs but native tongue is easily their best album. Kotzen was the best thing to happen to the band musically

[@shawnstarks1743]

True he was, he was also one of the worst things that happened to that band as far as LOYALTY 😂

[@benedettomansueto4016]

Richie Kotzen has an amazing voice , and also such a tremendous guitar player...... Dazzling

[@tangomango69]

The perfect pop song, stunned it's never been covered. Kotzen is class.

[@buddysmom1000]

This isn't a pop song. It's rock and still can be glam.

[@javiergarciajorge7841]

​@@buddysmom1000More like a blues-inspired theme

[@kotzensue]

This is gold.

[@michaelsherry1859]

I think Bret saw Richie as a kind of 'Steve Gaines'-type, game-changing addition to the band that would finally give Poison the southern rock credibility that Bret seemed to crave back in the late '80's/early '90's....

[@DeOmnibusDubitandum76]

Richie said that he had not bothered to learn any of the songs for the audition, but that when Brett asked him to play something he had written for them this song got him the gig right there!

[@TheMIBlack]

I wish the good 'ol days like this just come back. Now all I see are tiktok and kpop and it just sucks big time.

[@modpup]

Insane performance. Never seen that before. Loved it.

[@gu5on16]

Wow very nice guitar sound

[@fullalbums1133]

Damn this is so good

[@lozzano]

What a great song and solo!

[@donatobaonguis4315]

Amazing Vocals by this band. Richie is a really good singer apart from being a great guitarist!

[@Gunnar.J]

Amazing performance!

[@boohenry5150]

Class is class and can't be over-looked. I always get excited to hear anything by Poison, because I know it is going to be done with expertise. One hit after another. What more can I say!!!

[@nicolecooper7108]

So gorgeous

[@TheTruth-pl3mk]

As Classic Rock Magazine once said about this line-up: "It was an all-too-brief stab at musical credibility for Poison". Richie Kotzen forced them to raise their game, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. Native Tongue was a very good album that came out at the wrong time, with "Grunge" being the in-thing.

[@danieljanostik3564]

Lots of great 80's band released amazing albums during Grunge movement. That's just my opinion.

[@joeferla1555]

Totally agree, great songs on this album. Kotzen definitely added something

[@djcease1996]

@@danieljanostik3564 They had to to compete with Grunge. Of course it all ended up being in vain as far as sales go but artistic triumph.

[@kairak2096]

Maldito sea el Grunge y todo lo que trajo consigo

[@perebernardo3829]

Still great after all this years.

[@jose-sj1kn]

canción escrita por Ritchie Kotzen, compuesta por el, para mí el mejor disco de Poison lejos

[@NothingelseVlone]

holy cow !!!!! posion crazy good

[@fajarstradlin8592]

Lagu favorit uing...🤘😂😎

[@fearlessfrable26]

Bret Michaels is the man! Poison rocks!

[@SoundMuzak]

Kotzen is one of the best rock guitarists out there

[@markmatthew9022]

They should get back together for another reunion album with either cc devile or Richie Flesh and blood and native tongue are probably one of the best albums to come out of the 90s

[@jeikiss1809]

Este album fue él que mas me gusto... sentí a poison mas maduro musicalmente y sobre todo tiene un toque parecido al blues😉😉😉 richie kotzen es un guitarrista sensacional!!!!

[@richardsamirnacar616]

saludos amgo, muy buen comentario as dejado en este video,, te felicito amigo tienes buen oido musical por ese comentario en el que as expresado..,, y si tienes razon suenan mas maduro en la parte musical, solo nosotros los que tenemos buenos oidos musicales nos acemos enterder... Richie Kotzen es una leyenda musical sobreviviente hoy en la actualidad en el mundo del Rock N" Roll.. saludos amigo

[@mb-ms2mk]

너무 멋있다

[@epiphoney]

Sounds Hendrix-y. I like it.

[@RotluangaTlau]

Reminds me of Ruati a Mizoram Girl😊

[@lespaulgailbert]

Richie is getting better through the years.

[@adonismervin]

i love this song since kotzen is there

[@jsgguitar3143]

Master Kotzen

[@bradbeam3767]

Richie Kotzen. Period.

[@alexanderacsayan4113]

Very sad I lost my ist poster of poison.. when we transfer from another city..😢😢😢😢

[@rjc7289]

Ironic how some of the best albums from the 80's glam bands came out in the 90's... Native Tongue -- Poison Dog Eat Dog -- Warrant Collage -- Ratt Bust A Nut -- Tesla s/t -- Motley Crue Still Climbing -- Cinderella Dysfunctional -- Dokken Subhuman Race -- Skid Row Show Business -- Kix Promised Land -- Queensryche

[@pnatoni09]

poison was on a detour when they hired kotzen. but he gave them flavor. which was great! overall, kotzen is no CC for sure. glad the original band is together.

[@mikemc5221]

And he would never want to be a C.C. granted CC fits Poison better but Kotzen is so far beyond anyone in this band.

[@pnatoni09]

@@mikemc5221 define beyond. if it's what I think you're saying or going to say. I disagree.

[@mikemc5221]

@@pnatoni09 Native Tounge is a good album, but it's a bad Poison album. Ritchie is better utilized in his current position.

[@barilbarilbaril3427]

Kotzen is more talented than all the other 4 combined

[@Michael-wu5sq]

Richie Kotzen is so amazing!

[@alejandrolj3318]

Ritchie subió 4 gradas a Poison, Maestro!!!

[@pocketchange6010]

poison has not released another album

[@roxannemoser]

Not only is Kotzen a master guitarist/songwriter he's a helluva better vocalist than Bret will ever dream of

[@Minenangel]

Nothing but the truth.

[@kairak2096]

No hay por que compararlos

[@Dennis63925]

Olha, bem que a qualidade poderia estar melhor, né. Mas tá bom, pelo Kotzen vale a pena.

[@phj11206]

richie is crazy

[@luislucho4280]

Kotzen haciendo caras a la camara 😆

[@malemanjulpax2155]

No wonder, one of them woman fell for ritche... 😁

[@felipegallegos1203]

Disco blusero

[@lilibethabiera6960]

So this is Poison's version of Jon and Richie..

[@nelalcantara4937]

Kotzen and the poison

[@LuisRadaAlean]

Si Poison valió alguna vez la pena, fue con Richie Kotzen!

[@headbangermetal5929]

Es cuando menos valio la pena amigo de verdad creeme, poison valio la pena desde 1987 cuando pegaron su primer hitazo, talk dirty to me, poison es poison con todos sus exitos ochenteros lo tomas o lo dejas eso es poison como tal, richie kotzen vale la pena como solista porque es un excelente musico, pero con poison no valio ni tres cacahuates y a richie le favorecio mas la estancia en poison, que poison con richie

[@jaimemillanir6397]

Totalmente d acuerdo !!

[@kairak2096]

@@headbangermetal5929mmmm no

[@angelhuezorocks]

I like cc a lot but Kotzen is good!

[@heathercrabtree5006]

Is that Richies very last performance with poison?

[@juanmacollavini8870]

Richie fue lo mejor que le paso a esa banda, la cago casándose con la mujer del batero

[@thevideographer3991]

A time when ritchie was so damn irresistibly hot, he can get any girl he wants

[@urinsidevox3082]

Kotzen is Beethoven playing with turds here.

[@TheTruth-pl3mk]

I recall seeing a quote from him (not verbatim): "Being in Poison helped me forget that I am a musician". It was just like a party for him, after years of playing with serious musicians.

[@steverittenhouse1192]

He admitted later that he did it for the money and try to become a household name. He had lost his record deal before poison called. His manager said do it for one record

[@marvelanna1393]

He once said that the best thing he got out of Poison was Deanna Eve. I like Poison but Richie outclasses them... They became complacent & every album after Flesh and Blood was not worth buying. Their catalog of music isn't nearly as extensive as Richie's. I love Richie's music. He explores so many different rhythms & lyrical styles. Poison wasn't deserving of his genius.

[@jimfletcher789]

​@@marvelanna1393 Was this not the album after Flesh and Blood?

[@tomlangley6236]

Poisons unsuccessful last ditch effort to slid into 'Rocks new sound'.

[@mksland3884]

Very lackluster in spite of Ritchie. The only reason I'm here. He can only do so much!

[@judyblower8183]

Richie is too good for that band.

[@derrickbavery1474]

I'm sure he wouldn't mind playing on next years stadium tour. I know he's more talented, but nobody in Poison would ever want him back, but I'm sure hed take the Poison gig back in a heartbeat.

[@lmfs4032]

Poison’s still selling out arenas and stadiums next year and where exactly is Richie? 100 seat clubs? 500 seat theaters?

[@retarted0001]

@@lmfs4032 Poison was a fad that reminds people of their youth (like me). But ask me who I'd rather listen to day in & day out, and it's Kotzen without a question. Poison can make their money but Richie is a million times the musician than anyone in the band. Heck he's better than 90% of the musicians in the world.

[@EVEROSFP1]

It's pretty common in bands to have some member that's more advanced than the others. The result in this case it was pretty good... After all playing is about happiness not competition...as far as i know Richie split ways with the band for other than musical reasons..

[@konstantinivanov2036]

@@lmfs4032 poor Richie playing with Adrian Smith, Mike Portnoy and Billy Sheehan!

[@MisterGuitarItalia]

I love Poison, but seeing Kotzen with them is like seeing Hendrix jam with with the Monkees...

[@entertainmenttalkcentral8541]

Little does rikki know that Richie is sleeping with his fiancé

[@marvelanna1393]

But seriously who wouldn't take Richie over Rikki?

[@handsomerube]

Ex-fiancé. They weren’t together at this point.

[@muriloninja]

@@marvelanna1393 I would and I'm not even gay!

[@pandoypenduko4328]

They were ok until Ritchie screwed Rikki's girl. I hope they make amends now and bygones be bygones. Coz, its nice to see Poison with CC playing his riffs and solo as well as Ritchie. They are not playing this songs now since the guitar line is Ritchie's Stuff.

[@richardwarsaw7050]

I am sure She was Innocent or Just Forced. LOL!

[@atabish3031]

Richie blew CC away and sang better than Brett not bad for 21

[@ryant3600]

He wasn't 19 dude...

[@atabish3031]

that was from his mouth in a interview right here on youtube

[@ryant3600]

he was 21 when he joined Poison. He released his first album ( solo album) at 19.

[@atabish3031]

Ryan T you're right my bad

[@ryant3600]

it's all good. He was still pretty young and incredible. He was part of the whole Mike Varney thing. A producer who was really into finding young shredders. He found Paul Gilbert, Malmsteen, Freidman, Becker, John 5 etc. Talking about young...He sent in Paul Gilberts audition tape to Ozzy, when Ozzy was recruiting a guitarist, Gilbert was 15 yrs. old, which is a big reason he didn't get the gig. So Gilbert went to LA and onto GIT instead and formed Racer X, then Mr. Big. But yeah all those guys were young back then. Becker was 19 when he recorded DLR's Little Ain't enough, Becker already had two Cacophony albums and world tour under his belt by then. But yeah Kotzen is crazy good.

[@levinmoser4001]

Kotzen was too great for poison

[@CekD80]

True 👍

[@headbangermetal5929]

on the contrary, too bad for them did not help at all the stay in poison, native tongue was a failure commercially

[@TheTruth-pl3mk]

@@headbangermetal5929 It was a very good album that failed because it came out at the wrong time. Grunge was in. Bands like Poison and Motley Crue failed despite releasing decent albums at the time. The only bands from that time who didn't suffer commercially were Metallica and Bon Jovi. Guns N' Roses would've been on that list too if Axl didn't lose the plot.

[@wilfredsanchez14]

I love richie but it is stupid to say that it is better than bret, they just say it because they are richie fans, everyone has their style, by the way richie became known thanks to poison, what better poison with him? It is debatable, but poison was already a consecrated band, so who helped who was poison a kotzen to be famous, Richie has said so, after all poison has more than 50 million records sold, and how many richie?

[@hadmyfill8179]

Wilfred Sánchez - if pure art were gaged only by sales you’d be right

[@ERICF66]

They should have named that ‘project’ something else. Doesn’t sound like Poison. It does sound like an attempt at The Black Crowes style but not as good. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Den-pu6re]

Just goes to show Bret is a average vocalist, Richie sings all the high notes, not hating as Poison has always been one of my favourite bands. Just an observation

[@thesundog8833]

This style never stood a chance against like Alice in Chains or any of that heavy shit that came out around this time.. Especially with that clown singing it.

[@andrewsantos3283]

Am I the only one thinking Kotzen & Saraceno were too good for this band.

[@marvelanna1393]

AMEN

[@jashcroft1]

Man I hated Kotzen´s ass at first when he replaced Paul Gilbert at Mr. Big, but then his style grew on me. He isn't the best shredder, not even close, but he has a really soothing-melodic style of playing. I mean, I still prefer Paul Gilbert for Mr. Big, his style suits the band way more, but Kotzen left his mark in the band. As for Poison, I always thought he was way better than CC DeVille.

[@shawnstarks1743]

Richie was great musically wise. However, loyalty wise, not so much. Hmm

[@wilfredsanchez14]

I love richie but it is stupid to say that it is better than bret, they just say it because they are richie fans, everyone has their style, by the way richie became known thanks to poison, what better poison with him? It is debatable, but poison was already a consecrated band, so who helped who was poison a kotzen to be famous, Richie has said so, after all poison has more than 50 million records sold, and how many richie?

[@ericcarvalho3578]

Wilfred Sánchez well said

[@mitchie2267]

So selling records makes you a better musician? Tim Buckley must be garbage then.

[@iOSinfotech]

You fools

[@newpowersoul2005]

Well sorry Bret but Richie is better than you in every aspect.

[@derrickbavery1474]

Not in stage presence, songwriting, or marketability. I love Richie and he's way more musically talented than anyone in Posion, but he doesn't have many catchy riffs and his voice is like Richie Samboras, good, but no special flavor to it. Bret has a unique tone. CCs riffs and solos have much more feel than Richies. I have always said they best guitar players in the world are random people on KZbin, but they are not famous for a reason.

[@madden7732]

@@derrickbavery1474 Richie Sambora and Kotzen's voices are great, and even have a much better vocal technique than their respective singers, me myself as a singer can tell. And as for CC, he was more creative than Kotzen when soloing and making iconic solos and riffs, Kotzen was more of a bluesy/acoustic guitarist, and even shreddy also, also as a guitarist I can tell.

[@rcruz262]

@@derrickbavery1474 Ritchie Wrote this song!

[@nelsonjoaquin6185]

Para los haters solo les digo: Poison toca en arenas y estadios, kotzen en clubes y bares Good bye

[@brycemelton1]

The only good Poison album is Native Tongue, thanks to Kotzen. CC blows