The One Company That Gave Sega a Chance

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@josephfrye7342
@josephfrye7342 8 ай бұрын
I think ea cared back then but now ea is a god damn mess
@JimblesNotronbo
@JimblesNotronbo 8 ай бұрын
That seems to be the case for a lot of the evil megatitans of gaming these days, namely Activision. They were founded by ex-atari employees who were tired of the culture at atari and wanted credit for their work! The irony is truly astounding.
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
Yeah they've definitely changed since their early years.
@TRJ2241987
@TRJ2241987 8 ай бұрын
When I was a very young kid, Electronic Arts was actually my favorite company. My favorite videogame, to this day one of my favorite of all time, was 'Demon Stalkers' for the Commodore 64. And Bulls vs Blazers for the SNES, along with Zelda, was my first Nintendo game ever. Back in those days the games were made by very small teams of people who were passionate about what they were doing. Nothing like the company they would go on to be by the 2000s
@BrockMace-y3c
@BrockMace-y3c 8 ай бұрын
I miss the early 2000’s. Madden 2003 and Fight Night Round 2 are my favorite sports games on the PS2.
@Aivottaja
@Aivottaja 8 ай бұрын
Became too big. Happened to Blizzard and Rockstar too. And even Sega is getting greedy with the worrying decision to put New Game+ behind a paywall in Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth.
@fjr4997
@fjr4997 8 ай бұрын
One of EAs games, Lakers Vs Celtics and the NBA Finals. Great game. People forget that Genesis became a hub for sports games. You would see it at parties with NHL or NBA games in the late 90s. It was cool, a grown up console for young adults. It really opened up gaming demographics and of course, PSOne took it to another level.
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
True. The Genesis was known for its great lineup of sports games.
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 8 ай бұрын
Sports were an absolute mainstay pillar of Sega's brand. And then ol' Sony came along with a big bag of cash and snatched all those licenses right out of Sega's hands; while seducing EA away too. 😅
@TeamPandory
@TeamPandory 8 ай бұрын
Populous was more of a "God Sim" where you flattened land TBH ^-^ ... But yeah, EA provided Sega with some excellent games back then.
@brucemckinlay9739
@brucemckinlay9739 8 ай бұрын
You didn't mention the best EA Genesis game, NHL '94.
@Larry
@Larry 8 ай бұрын
EA only ever published Madden on the SNES I believe, all their other games were developed/published by Ocean.
@fattomandeibu
@fattomandeibu 3 ай бұрын
What about all the versions of FIFA? I'm sure they were developed by Extended Play and published by EA.
@Larry
@Larry 3 ай бұрын
@@fattomandeibu The SNES version was developed by Probe Entertainment.
@AlphaZeroX96
@AlphaZeroX96 Ай бұрын
What is it with you and EA?
@fattomandeibu
@fattomandeibu Ай бұрын
@@Larry Explains why the SNES versions played like pants compared to the Mega Drive versions.
@iwanttocomplain
@iwanttocomplain 8 ай бұрын
EA never reverse engineered the cartridge. They only said they did, which was enough to bend Sega's arm.
@MaxAbramson3
@MaxAbramson3 Күн бұрын
I heard that they'd almost broken it... but not quite.
@iwanttocomplain
@iwanttocomplain 17 сағат бұрын
@@MaxAbramson3 I heard that too. So I suppose it amounts to leverage.
@jarvindriftwood
@jarvindriftwood 8 ай бұрын
Even back then, EA was repurposing the same games. Skitchin' was based on Road Rash's engine in a game where you race on inline skates and hang on the back of cars to gain speed. There were also Mutant League Football and Mutant League Hockey which repurposed the Madden '93 and NHL '93 engines respectively. They're all fun games with enough changes to make them unique.
@Enoby_Darkness
@Enoby_Darkness 8 ай бұрын
"Sega gave EA a lenient licensing deal out of fear they would go to other developers" sure is a strange way of saying "The one company that gave Sega a chance"
@BenHughes81
@BenHughes81 8 ай бұрын
It's a little ironic that Electric Arts wanted their games on the Genesis/Mega Drive so badly, but refused to support the Dreamcast, especially with being Sega systems. My guess is different people in leadership positions at the two different times.
@VOAN
@VOAN 8 ай бұрын
It had something to do with Sega acquiring 2K Games studio, 2K Games at the time are known for their superior sports titles and their NFL license are considered 5x better than EA's own Madden NFL series. This is why EA are so butt-hurt during the Dreamcast era that they threaten Sega that if Sega goes through with acquiring 2K Games for the Dreamcast then EA will not support the Dreamcast when it launch as they don't want to share the NFL license on the same platform as 2K Games. Sega went through anyways and EA left the Dreamcast in the dust. Not sure why they had issue with just 2K Games when Midway (known for their fun arcadey NFL Blitz series) also had the NFL license at the time too.
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a big contrast. Weird how companies evolve and relationships change.
@G.L.999
@G.L.999 7 ай бұрын
Sega's cartridge production policies weren't really all that different from Nintendo's actually. But like you said in the video, Sega needed all the help they could get back then. Not to mention that EA already had extensive experience making games for the Amiga and Atari ST home computers; all of which had the motorola 68000 processor. A hardware CPU EA had extensive experience in making games with. And when EA's Trip Hawkins, Bing Gordon, Jim Nitchals, Steve Hayes, and Nancy Fong found out the Genesis/Mega-Drive would contain that same motorola 68000 processor, that's when they knew they had an ace up their sleeves!
@Helladamnleet
@Helladamnleet 2 ай бұрын
Sports and arcade ports were what Sega really shined on. Not to say it didn't have a few good RPGs and other genres, but I always loved Sega because of the arcady feel. That's why the Dreamcast was really the best note to step out on for them. It was a near 1:1 arcade experience so they kind of achieved the original goal of home consoles.
@Nokia3310do
@Nokia3310do 8 ай бұрын
Atari didn't really give third party companies too much freedom. The just didn't expect third parties to make games for their platform. It was the first TV console where interchangeable games were a big hit and became the modern console business model we know now. They learned a lot of lessons the hard way because it was all new stuff.
@Dwedit
@Dwedit 8 ай бұрын
Notably, *none* of EA's Genesis games display any SEGA logo at all, making them unlike every other Genesis game.
@Sly88Frye
@Sly88Frye 8 ай бұрын
8:30 Speaking of Road Rash, what happened to that series? I feel like Road Rash 64 was the last one.
@epicboomshine6595
@epicboomshine6595 8 ай бұрын
I just found this channel, and I have to say, I’m digging the chill vibes I’m getting while also learning some interesting gaming history. Definitely a good and underrated channel that deserves more views and subs!
@jordans4827
@jordans4827 8 ай бұрын
An excellent company business policy review! Great video! I wonder what happened to allow Castlevania Bloodlines (Konami) to appear on the Genesis? I think that game came out in '94, so perhaps Konami finally ripped up their Nintendo contract. Anyway, Great work!
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 8 ай бұрын
Road Rash feels like a better version of a great arcade/Sega Genesis game Super Hang-On my favorite racing games 1, 2, and 3 of Road Rash and Super Hang-On
@Dwedit
@Dwedit 8 ай бұрын
Zany Golf was pretty much a port of the other versions of the game, having the exact same physics, frame rate, color palette, and graphics as the Apple II GS, Amiga, and Atari ST versions of the game. It did not take advantage of the Genesis's graphical capabilities in any meaningful way. In terms of which version of the game is the best: Apple II GS (best), Amiga, Genesis, Atari ST, IBM PC (worst). Apple II GS version has the best music, while the IBM PC version has the ugly 16-color EGA palette and simple PC speaker beeps for music.
@KeithPhillips
@KeithPhillips 8 ай бұрын
EA games on Genesis were generally some really quality stuff! One thing I forgot though was that some of the cartridges didn't work on the later models of the Genesis (when the TMSS stuff came in to play.) I "rediscovered" this when I got a model 2 Genesis a few years ago. I bought a few copies of Populous, thinking there was something wrong with them, before I remembered this! 😂 Populous, Budokan and Zany Golf were 3 titles that I knew wouldn't work on the later consoles.
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
You're right. When doing research on the video, I originally didn't see any proof that there were unlicensed versions of EA games. However, I recently found that there are two Zany Golf ROMs, one that doesn't work on TMSS consoles, and one that does. So that tells me there are unlicensed versions.
@marklechman2225
@marklechman2225 8 ай бұрын
POJR! Always glad to see you pop up in my feed!👍
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@scottythegreat1
@scottythegreat1 8 ай бұрын
Nintendo had the market share. They acted like it was a monopoly and the Genesis hurt them quite a bit. American publishers were more willing to go with Sega mostly because their censorship rules were easier (but no porn games), and publishers weren't tied to exclusively releasing games for Sega. Eventually, Sega had to give in to EA (and later Accolade) just because there was little they could do about it. They tried suing Accolade, but settled out of court and they got a similar deal. Acclaim started releasing games for both systems. This started Nintendo's fall from the top.
@KeithPhillips
@KeithPhillips 8 ай бұрын
In regard to lockout measures for Atari, I heard a cool one from David Crane (if I recall) where they designed their cartridges in such a way that would make it impossible for Atari to redesign the 2600 to prevent Activision carts from working...without making Atari's own cartridges not working 😂
@Grimmtombobulus
@Grimmtombobulus 8 ай бұрын
Your videos are such a vibe, man. You've gained a new subscriber
@taionalmeida5337
@taionalmeida5337 8 ай бұрын
I Believe EA took The chance to bring a Lot Of the British and european game scene (based mostly on computers) to the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive. I guess Amiga hardware and Genesis were pretty likely so a Lot Of these games started as computer games (maybe The Zany golf half assed frame rate was a mark Of a less than stellar optimization Of a computer game). Looking to what EA become nowdays these begginings are nostalgic view. They publish a Lot Of stuff, mostly with quality, and even to the niche they keep till this Day (Sports games) they bring some interesting inovations. Single player Adventures, couch co-op games, Sports blast nights ... These where The days ...
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 8 ай бұрын
Well, main processor on Genesis, Amiga 500 and Atari ST was Motorola 68000. Thus technically, machine code was compatible between those 3 machines. But alas, compatibility ended there as all three of them had different way of processing graphics and music. Considering that all 3 companies were becoming underdogs in late 80s and early 90s, one might wonder what would happen if they somehow combined their strength to have more interchangeable software.
@FeralInferno
@FeralInferno 8 ай бұрын
I always wondered about those yellow tab cartridges! Great video, Pojr!
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Yeah when I was a kid, I thought the EA cartridges were meant to carry more space or something.
@Dwedit
@Dwedit 8 ай бұрын
There is literally nothing behind the yellow tab, just more of the black plastic of the cartridge.
@FeralInferno
@FeralInferno 8 ай бұрын
@@Dwedit or... perhaps it's hiding the blast processing chip... 😁
@Goldnfoxx
@Goldnfoxx 8 ай бұрын
That might explain how Starflight wound up with a Genesis port. The original PC version is my undisputed favorite game, and the Genesis port was...fine(?)...but it just always seemed like a weird fit for a console port.
@dilbertfish
@dilbertfish 8 ай бұрын
@GoldenfoxxPrime I still enjoyed it.
@jackofallgamesTV
@jackofallgamesTV 8 ай бұрын
I think there were literally 2 third parties for Master System games, Parker Bros, and Activision. Also the 7800 only had a few third parties. Like Absolute, Froggo. Maybe a video on these other third parties who went Sega or Atari.
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 8 ай бұрын
Also, Tecmo brought the arcade version of Rygar/Argos no Senshi over to the Master System as Argos no Jūjiken, under the thin guise of Salio Inc., back in 1988.
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
That's actually a great idea for a video, never thought about that! Thank you!
@VOAN
@VOAN 8 ай бұрын
EA during the Sega Genesis era: We like you Sega, let's work together from now on. (Marriage) EA during the Sega Dreamcast era: We hate you Sega and want nothing to do with you anymore. (Divorce)
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
You summed that up perfectly lol. It's interesting how relationships within companies can change over time.
@AngryCalvin
@AngryCalvin 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved every console Sega ever put out. Electronic Arts went straight downhill after that time period also. And it’s been straight downhill ever since. A company I once loved and bought many games from became a dumpster fire.
@fantom0369
@fantom0369 8 ай бұрын
EA has always had an ego issue, their reason for not supporting the Dreamcast was because they wanted to be the official(and only as far as I know) publisher for sports games, SEGA said no.
@taionalmeida5337
@taionalmeida5337 8 ай бұрын
Sega definitively took The right decision saying "Sorry EA, no". However a Lot Of people Think this COULD have changed The destiny Of DC, truth be Said, EA would not LOCK their Sports games on a single plataform, specially when the PS2 started to make waves with Its bombastic sales. Sega would have burned Bridges with a lot Of developers pretty early on to in a year get basically ALL alone.
@fantom0369
@fantom0369 8 ай бұрын
@@taionalmeida5337 honestly I think the only thing that would have changed the fate of the DC was SoJ saying no to the 32X and releasing the Saturn on time in the USA rather than early
@Gen-X-Memories
@Gen-X-Memories 8 ай бұрын
My friends and I had a blast playing the first three Madden on the Genesis. Road Rash was a lot of fun too.
@flockofwawas
@flockofwawas 8 ай бұрын
5:23 is that moon patrol? looks different than any other moon patrol ive seen
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP 2 ай бұрын
😅 i used to do that on road rash also as a kid...
@infinity2z3r07
@infinity2z3r07 8 ай бұрын
i felt cheated in road rash when u get thrown from ur bike near the finish but can't run across on foot
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
I didn't actually realize that. I've never actually finished a race on foot, I usually gave up before I made it there lol. Never realized it was impossible.
@infinity2z3r07
@infinity2z3r07 8 ай бұрын
OOF. double-checked and turns out you CAN finish on foot. not sure which game i was thinking of, maybe road rash 32-bit? haha@@pojr
@cjh0751
@cjh0751 8 ай бұрын
I always enjoy your videos POJR. Keep up the great work. Love from the UK.
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish 7 ай бұрын
Si basically what SEGA got different. They could produce the carts themselves to reduce costs / cut out the middleman there. And also do not need to get the games approved by SEGA. Rest was the same rules as for anyone else
@b.o.4492
@b.o.4492 8 ай бұрын
Bent my pins on my Sega Genesis playing Immortal. Such a tight fit.
@TeddyBelcher4kultrawide
@TeddyBelcher4kultrawide 8 ай бұрын
It’s like someone just told you it and you wanna tell somebody. 😊
@ranchman693
@ranchman693 2 ай бұрын
I had a copy of Zany Golf that didn't work on older Genesis models but I was able to bypass it with a Game Genie. I thought I was the only one with that problem!
@heelturnsface
@heelturnsface 2 ай бұрын
They’re also the company that wouldn’t make games for the Dreamcast when Madden was the biggest game of generation. Even tho, NFL 2K was a superior game
@Boswd
@Boswd 8 ай бұрын
No mention of NHL 94? Or Mario Andretti racing? Those were great titles.
@KeithPhillips
@KeithPhillips 8 ай бұрын
Fans are still updating these games (like NHL '94) to have current rosters! I'm not sure how in-depth or realistic player performances are modeled, but it's so cool to see this 😎
@Boswd
@Boswd 8 ай бұрын
@@KeithPhillips that is fantastic. man what a great game that was, in college we would hold tournaments, jump on NHL after we got home from going out and basically be the center of the after party, EA NHL 94. When talking about Genesis games this is a Must HAVE for your libriary, or at least '95 95 was great too, but man o man these were the best
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish 7 ай бұрын
Actually the flooding of games in Atari was the birth of gaming media. In the first year reviews of games and such did not exist. But with the need to know if a game was good or bad magazines arose. So well pretty much the same situation as today. So no I don’t think the flood of games was the core of the crash. Problem was publishers over estimating the sales, shitty games (that people know was shitty as we read the reviews back then) and that arcade games became more advanced at we say that games in personal computers was better (and cheaper) than in the Atari console
@stevemelo
@stevemelo 8 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man... I see Road Rash on the Sega Genesis, I click.
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah me too lol. One of the best EA games
@stevemelo
@stevemelo 8 ай бұрын
@@pojr in regards to the slow frame rate, there is actually a rom patch available that fixes it and makes the whole experience replaying so much more enjoyable. One of my favorites for sure!
@dilbertfish
@dilbertfish 8 ай бұрын
@stevemelo You're a man of fine taste.
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 8 ай бұрын
EA is probably the only company that could have done this almost every other company that would have tried to do this legitimately and legally would have collapsed especially publishing on both Sega and Nintendo consoles
@dwightdixon8508
@dwightdixon8508 8 ай бұрын
EA’s games helped but they were NOT the Genesis/MD savior. When Sonic the Hedgehog released 3rd parties flooded the Genesis.
@AngryCalvin
@AngryCalvin 8 ай бұрын
I loved Electronic Arts back in the day. For both console and PC games. I absolutely considered them a trusted brand that was generally putting out really good product. They also had a great selection of genres and types of games to choose from. Legends like Alternate Reality The City, Kings of the Beach, Budokan: The Martial Spirit, Might and Magic II, Risky Woods, Ultrabots, Syndicate, Blades of Vengeance, Need for Speed, Magic Carpet, NBA Live 98, NHL 98, Medal of Honor. I can’t even remember ever being disappointed until oh yeah 1998. That overhyped game that flooded magazines with the most incredible screenshots you ever saw in your entire life. Jurassic Park Trespasser. My new decked out PC could run anything. Trespasser ran terribly. It had elements like Half Life and was ahead of its time. But it was a horrible game. There were still plenty of great games being put out after. I think after Sims came out I lost interest. Now I avoid Electronic Arts like the plague. Terrible games, terrible launcher. What a tragedy they have become!
@lawrencemoody738
@lawrencemoody738 8 ай бұрын
Another great video from you, buddy. I think you dont realize the fact that madden football on the Genesis was one of the most popular multiplayer games that existed at that time... especially in college dorms, and everyone got the Genesis just to play madden football with each other...and later nhl 94. That was a big deal. The madden versions on super Nintendo were horrible...at least the early ones.
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish 7 ай бұрын
Also as presented here it seems like SEGA and Nintendo have an “evil” requirement that publishers need to pay for the manufacturing themselves. Of course not. It’s totally normal and exactly how it works today. Only thing was that the cost was a lot higher = higher risk for the publishers. But hey you can’t put the cost of cart hardware on SEGA, Nintendo. Maybe today on can. Like Nintendo could have gone for a more standard memory card for Switch instead of their more costly proprietary format
@RawrX32009
@RawrX32009 3 ай бұрын
I'm guessing they did it so its harder to pirate
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish 3 ай бұрын
@@RawrX32009 for sure that is the main reason
@RawrX32009
@RawrX32009 3 ай бұрын
@@litjellyfish Yeah Also to earn money from publishers for cartridges
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish 3 ай бұрын
@@RawrX32009 yes still they get the same amount of money from online sales. Or did you mean the money they get from publishers for the actual cartridge hardware ?
@RawrX32009
@RawrX32009 3 ай бұрын
@@litjellyfish Both of those
@Riz2336
@Riz2336 8 ай бұрын
As far as the Genesis games go by EA I remember them being one of the better developers
@terran0797
@terran0797 8 ай бұрын
Why didn’t EA and other companies just reverse engineer the nes then?
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
Not completely sure, but from what I understand, the Genesis' lockout technology was much more basic than the NES.
@terran0797
@terran0797 8 ай бұрын
And yet the nes lockout is basic too lol. I guess at the time in the 80s it was very adequate :) I know the neo geo was murder to try and get around it
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 8 ай бұрын
NES was reverse engineered, thus many games appeared that were not approved by Nintendo. But Nintendo took legal measures, i.e. sued stores that were selling them etc ... Sega on the other hand could not afford to pursue people who were making games for its own platform, because as said in the video, they already lacked 3rd party support.
@ShanetheFreestyler
@ShanetheFreestyler 8 ай бұрын
I'd say back then, EA actually were the _good guys_ in a sense. They may have went behind SEGA's back to reverse engineer the Genesis, but that allowed them to get a better deal. Something like this would've never worked against Nintendo at the time because of how big they were. While understandably Nintendo didn't want to make the same mistakes Atari did, not allowing third-party cartridges did meant that some Famicom games couldn't have been brought to NES without being reprogrammed to Nintendo's own mappers if at all. EA not having to worry about that for the Genesis meant they could use whatever cart they needed. Shame nowadays EA is one of the worst video game studios in the industry, but it's like Harvey Dent said in The Dark Knight, "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain." As for Road Rash, that's definitely one of my favorite EA franchises of all time! (Although it wasn't until Road Rash on PS1 that I was introduced to the series.) One of my favorite parts about most Road Rash games, besides the combat, is the fact you don't respawn on your bike after a wreck, (except in RR64 where you do, and Jailbreak where you can by pressing △), and actually have to run back to your bike! Not only that, but you also don't need to be on your bike in order to cross the finish line! Sometimes, it's better to hoof it than to get your bike back. For example, you get thrown off just feet before the finish, it might take less time to run there instead of getting back to your bike. Also, if your bike is totaled, you're only declared "wrecked" if you return to your bike, unless it fell into some water; in that case, just run! It's highly likely you might get busted, but the ticket is always cheaper than the repair, which is somehow always free if you finish a race without wrecking! (Yay for video game logic!) One more bit of Trivia: Lotus Turbo Challenge on the Genesis is actually a port of Lotus Turbo Challenge 2 on the Amiga, and Lotus II: RECS is a port of Lotus III: The Ultimate Challenge. Top Gear, (no relation to the BBC series of the same name), released on the SNES on the same year as Lotus II/III, is the spiritual successor to the Lotus series, being produced by the same developers and featuring a similar engine. Unfortunately, there was no track editor this time. Oh, and Top Gear itself would get a spiritual successor in Horizon Chase, this time by different devs, but featuring Barry Leitch returning as composer, providing remixes of Top Gear music tracks for the game.
@Eye-am-Metalchip
@Eye-am-Metalchip 8 ай бұрын
Sega had more than EA as a partner, Namco USA for its first few years only published on non nintendo platforms with a lot of genesis exclusives
@jamesburke2759
@jamesburke2759 8 ай бұрын
I really miss the day when EA was the good guys in gaming. When Trip was at the wheel, When EA said to Nintendo and Sega, Screw you i'll make my own console, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the console.
@Dyxid
@Dyxid 8 ай бұрын
Man, I had no idea EA was evil from the very beginning with the whole reverse-engineering/blackmail thing, lol.
@onidensetsu3721
@onidensetsu3721 8 ай бұрын
Road Rash is the Best!
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
It's a great game, one of EA's best.
@rolltidewonka9560
@rolltidewonka9560 8 ай бұрын
Nice work.
@thetechn1que518
@thetechn1que518 8 ай бұрын
EA were definitely a mixed bag in the Genesis. They put out some of the console’s best games including Road Rash and Desert Strike, but they also published some of the very worst pieces of trash I ever had the misfortune of renting, like Dark Castle and Sword of Sodan.
@BlueMSX.
@BlueMSX. 8 ай бұрын
I remember hearing this story a while back, shame EA turned into the borg collective as time went on, they used to be so cool. great video pojr!
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
Very true. Thank you so much!
@ajsingh4545
@ajsingh4545 8 ай бұрын
Off topic, but are you into retro style indie games at all? Some that I like include bloodstained games, infernax, cross code, aggelos, Celeste, steel assault, cyber shadow etc.
@dangox3370
@dangox3370 8 ай бұрын
I don't have a lot of fond Genesis memories. The pack in game Altered Beast sucked and most of Sega's own games including Sonic weren't my cup of tea either. but early EA games usually felt unique and some of them were downright weird. James Pond, Faery Tale Adventure and Buck Rogers etc actually did leave an impression.
@KoopaMedia64
@KoopaMedia64 8 ай бұрын
I'd love to see this channel attempt a video at determining the actual facts about the infamous Nintendo exclusivity contract. The common narrative is "Nintendo barred 3rd parties from making any games for other systems", but is this true? There actually were some licensed NES 3rd party companies that made games for the Atari 2600, 7800, SMS and others, companies such as Activision, Parker Bros and Absolute Entertainment. Could it be that Nintendo just had exclusivity on specific games and not the 3rd party devs themselves? There is the boring business reason that the 7800 and SMS were just not selling enough to entice much 3rd party development. It was an investment to learn a competing system and risk selling games for them. Nintendo was a very safe bet given the huge system sales.
@dilbertfish
@dilbertfish 8 ай бұрын
@KoopaMedia64 I do have a book which details some of this information ( I'll try and dig it out). I know Namco were one of the big boys who got burnt.
@VolJoe
@VolJoe 8 ай бұрын
I love the photo of Warplock in reference to bad video games. That game was horrible
@rowjelio
@rowjelio 8 ай бұрын
Zany golf was a PC game first wasn't it ? And on the PC the frame rate was just as bad lol I had it, and it used the PC speaker for sound lol
@KeithPhillips
@KeithPhillips 8 ай бұрын
Rings of Power was another game put out by EA but it was made by Naughty Dog. It is kind of infamous for its "cheat" code on the 2nd player controller that makes the girl in the Naughty Dog intro topless. Lol I never ran in to the game as a kid. If i would have, I would have probably been kind of popular at school for this 🤣
@dilbertfish
@dilbertfish 8 ай бұрын
@KeithPhillips Trip Hawkins only gave them that opportunity to ensure their silence, as the founders of Naughty Dog saw the Genesis being reverse engineered. Still, it worked out well.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 8 ай бұрын
They didn't so much give it a chance as blackmail SEGA into favourable terms :D
@frodofraggins
@frodofraggins Ай бұрын
EA was great for this genesis only owner. There was no way I as going to buy a second console rather than a bunch of games for the console I already had. I spent so many hours playing Madden and NHL Hockey on the genesis. Might and Magic 2 and Populous were other great titles by EA.
@inceptional
@inceptional 8 ай бұрын
EA really did wonders on the Genesis. It's kinda of a shame it never quite delived up to the same par on SNES most of the time. You could always tell its SNES versions of games were really just downgraded Genesis titles that never fully took proper advantage of the specific capabilties there. But there were definitely some EA bangers on Genesis. Road Rash is one of their titles where it would be interesting to see what could be achieved on SNES if pushed fully. Those apparently scaling sprites probably would have been impossible on SNES, I think, but I'm confident the rest could have looked, sounded and controlled even better if handled properly.
@juststatedtheobvious9633
@juststatedtheobvious9633 8 ай бұрын
Plenty of games faked sprite scaling. If Road Rash worked on 8-bit, how was SNES a bridge too far? The question is whether it would sell enough copies to be worthwhile?
@inceptional
@inceptional 8 ай бұрын
@@juststatedtheobvious9633Well, I think it could do a decent job, but I think the thing with the scaling there is that it looks like actual smooth and possibly real sprite scaling on Genesis, whereas on SNES I expect it would just be a bunch of frames. Although, with enough ROM space and good management of VRAM, it's possible those could look pretty much as smooth as real sprite scaling anyway. It might even be that's what Genesis is already doing for all know, as it definitely doesn't have built-in sprite scaling. But, either way, I'd have been interested in seeing a SNES version that pushed the system across the board. If it had come out back in the day and actually met the kind of top tier Nintendo/Rare quality and polish standards, I expect it would have been very well received.
@Troll_Ha
@Troll_Ha 8 ай бұрын
The snes only has a mini console as moral place holder. Modern genesis 💪 Modern snes 🪦 @inceptional aka the delusional troll that says he's not a troll 😆
@juststatedtheobvious9633
@juststatedtheobvious9633 8 ай бұрын
@@inceptional Genesis is doing real sprite scaling in software; it's why the frame rate's... interesting. The real issue is the impact of faking scaling on ROM size, if you're trying to provide a high quality alternative. It's probably better to just eat the cost of an extra processor in the cart itself. But doing either option early in the SNES lifecycle? Unfortunately, by the time this wasn't financial suicide, it made even less sense to compete with their own CD based 32-bit game.
@inceptional
@inceptional 8 ай бұрын
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 It's interesting to think that EA did apparently have a SNES version of the game in development but cancelled it. And, when you see how good even the Master System version is, it kinda makes you wonder what might have been on SNES there if they'd just gone all out.
@SpencerMckenithWilliams
@SpencerMckenithWilliams 8 ай бұрын
Only independent developers care about the quality of their games now. I am making a game console and just got a fpga that i can use to make chips for peripherals and extensions and chipset buses like intel has with their proprietary chipset and i am now waiting on another fpga for the cpu. Its even cooler. It has embedded frameworks for mobile CPUs is the best way i can describe to people, it has a hdl similar to c and it's compatible with risc-v architecture. The last one im still working out the best fpga for it as i need one powerful enough to develop multiple cores like the GPUs yes i intend to make a GPU chip too. It's as carefully chosen based on the sega genesis to .... Well no spoilers. Wait and see but it will outclass the ps5 and yes its in retailation to sony making me upset. Im still not done reverse engineering the ps5 yet so whatever makes the ps5 work, I have to make better and cheaper.
@northprime_unlimited
@northprime_unlimited 8 ай бұрын
Madden ALL day long…literally. Populous was good too.
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish 7 ай бұрын
So much factually faults in this one that I can’t even bother to list ‘em all. Come all nice try but try to run fact check with some others before uploading. Reason I write is I have seen similar in quite a few of your latest content
@LUCKO2022
@LUCKO2022 8 ай бұрын
Boo. You didn't mention The Immortal. WTF??? How cam you forget that game???
@AlphaZeroX96
@AlphaZeroX96 2 ай бұрын
I think Battlefield ruined EA.
@48hourrecordsteam45
@48hourrecordsteam45 Ай бұрын
Sega gave ea a chance
@HeyItIsMichal
@HeyItIsMichal 8 ай бұрын
First
@pojr
@pojr 8 ай бұрын
Hi lol
@HeyItIsMichal
@HeyItIsMichal 8 ай бұрын
@@pojr Yes!
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