Pokémon Emerald: Net Demo - Real Game Boy Advance Online Play

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[@ProjectXANA]

A Ho oh that was 1. Hatched 2. Given an "Illegal" move 3. Not given or caught through the "official" events are whats going to set off Pokebanks/Home alarms. Any other non legend pokemon should be fine as long as its movesets are possible

[@akiradkcn]

Say that to the official tournament jury, just recently we got drama over perfectly legal pokémon simply because they were devloped using romhacking Even tho they have instakill cheats, no moves or stats that are impossible obtain or other stuff used to cheat your way to victory

[@MrPibATF]

​​@@akiradkcn official tourneys don't give a F* I remember a European Regionals that was streamed on Twitch... During the SM days (when you couldn't use Bank), an Italian player had a (hatched) Porygon in a Beast Ball. At the time, the only way to get either Ditto, or Porygon, was via an in-game trade; meaning that they were in Pokéballs. A Twitch employee watching, as well as one of the English casters that was at the event in person (JWittz), brought up the fact that the Porygon was hacked... The judges looked into it. The Porygon's parent (Porygon) had hacked stats, as well as being in a Beast Ball. But because the Porygon being used in the tournament was "legal" (ie bred) and the hacked pokéball is purely cosmetic, they let the guy continue competing. And iirc, he made it to Worlds Semi-finals There's also the fact that RayRizzo's garchomp had an illegal move. And when you try to recreate his Garchomp, PKHeX will tell you that the data is invalid. "OT is not 'WORLDS12', Missing 'fateful encounter's flag and missing 'Worlds Champion' ribbon." This means his Garchomp is illegal as the only way PKHeX recognizes it, is if it matches the WiFi distribution.

[@thomaswinwood]

@@akiradkcn Using external tools like PKHex to edit or create a team has always been against the tournament rules, but it was an open secret that everyone did it because the hack checks have historically been terrible and teambuilding ingame sucks harder the further back in time you go. (It still kinda sucks. Some legendaries which are practically required to participate cost $90 for a Gen 8 game and the DLC as well as hours of your life playing through the game to catch them.)

[@Mrperson0]

@@thomaswinwood It's ridiculously easy to teambuild nowadays. The only thing that sucks is there still isn't a rusty bottle cap for 0 IVs.

[@notyourbusiness4169]

Pokemon should be a game of skill, not time and money. Hacked legal pokemons are legal.

[@joserachi96]

To quote the recurring npc at the starting town in most Pokémon games “technology is amazing! “

[@PimpinFAR]

This is cool but we NEED this for both Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures

[@nathonso_edits]

Omg yes! I've always wanted to play these games but the barrier to entry is so high with all the accessories you need (not to mention the games being very expensive now). Having online on an emulator would be amazing!

[@robothing6531]

four swords adventures works on dolphin netplay i’m pretty sure

[@KingCornWallis]

It's already been done on real hardware. Requires a LOT of equipment

[@dullah1434]

Just use retro arch

[@Regard-zt7gk]

​@@KingCornWallissoooo why not make it better...?

[@theboihilbirt1277]

Jon becoming number 1 enemy of Nintendo... how life change a man with freedom

[@GreekShinobi223]

When freedom takes ahold of you, there is no turning back

[@BBWahoo]

Nintendo is gonna send James Turner and Kev Bayliss to bugger him TO DEATH!

[@kitestar]

Maybe the enemy of NoE, not so much NoA given where Jon is located

[@miregoji2959]

Nintendo doesn't own Pokemon completely

[@BBWahoo]

@@miregoji2959 I want jon to own me completely

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

Man, if that online functionality gets built into a Wi-Fi-enabled flash cartridge or a link-port RFU, that might eliminate the need for a Wii entirely, and Pokemon fans might just be in heaven right now.

[@kevinfromsales9445]

Luckily it works with Dolphin too.

[@gabrielbarrantes6946]

Maybe some wifi adapter on port 1?

[@EquinoxGate]

Online Battle Factory or Battle Dome would be ridiculously fun

[@MagiCarson08]

Splash might be why ho-oh didn’t transfer. It’s also at an invalid level so that might be part of the issue. Delete splash and make it level 70 and try again.

[@Joel97_]

He removed It, check when he does the trade. Problem was that, that ho oh isn't caught by legitimately ways. Even if the game has a very poor hack check, that doesn't go through it. It's none of the event Ho-Oh or the one from Colosseum so it just says it can't

[@chiptunesoprano]

Legitimate gen 3 mythicals have a fateful encounter flag if I remember right. Pksm has built in copies of event encounters to compare. There's all sorts of PID rng gen stuff under the hood, something can look legit at first glance but the invisible bytes will be a mess and throw up all sorts of hack check flags.

[@RayoMcQueen95990]

Ho-oh is a mithical in Gen 3 only, and mythical Pokémon also need the correct PID and stuff like that to proceed with the transfer

[@LillyRuu]

Hatched from an egg, the move splash, and it not being a fateful encounter completely nulls it. Legendaries cannot be hatched from eggs.

[@Veela666]

Ho-ho can't hatch from an egg..

[@theotherjared9824]

Saying the GBA never had online is a bit misleading. Japan recieved a special cable that could connect a GBC and GBA with a cell phone, using it as a hotspot to download and upload data. Mario Kart: Super Circuit is the highest profile example of a Japan exclusive online mode.

[@GriffithFromBerk]

Actual “🤓” response

[@YoursTrulyPeePee123]

@@GriffithFromBerk Ye screw this guy for being informative without being a douche 🤓🤓🤓

[@michaelstevenson5044]

Love this comment

[@Nikku4211]

Japan gets all the cool stuff...

[@emolgazx4088]

🤓🤓🤓

[@NottJoeyOfficial]

The thing I'm most interested in with this is the Japan only mobile phone network games. I wonder if this could bring back the network features of those games to anyone who connects this way. This opens the doors for so much more, and I would absolutely live to see more games have these features added!

[@catgirl_works]

The REON project is currently working on reviving the the mobile adapter connectivity for several games, including translating them if no international versions already exist. Pokemon Crystal is probably the most complete example, but the other games that supported the adapter are also in active development

[@NottJoeyOfficial]

@@catgirl_works thanks for the reply, I'll definitely look into it! I think that's such a cool feature.

[@itranscendencei7964]

4:15 This is actually such a huge deal, imo. Pretty much every romhack I've played with added dialogue is VERY easy to tell that it was fan written. This though... This is pretty spot on.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

I would be curious if anyone has tips for writing NPC dialogue in ROM Hacks that feels authentic.

[@itranscendencei7964]

Seems like your best bet at the moment is to contact the creators of this mod, and see if they have any pointers. I don't know of anyone else making more authentic feeling dialogue, currently.

[@MayorMori]

How do people even come up with this stuff. That is so beyond cool. Amazing work and great video

[@randomcommentog]

It would be cool if you can do this on a hacked 3DS where you use the 3DS wifi instead of a Wii

[@Kayose]

I need a "Rad as Flip" Shirt like yesterday.

[@Kritigri]

That would be rad as flip

[@Artista_Frustrado]

next Jon's Video will be how he met Matsuda after he came to his home to break his legs joking aside, is amazing what the Pokemon modding community can do

[@codylester9081]

I would love to see it adapted to work with retro handhelds that are Wi-Fi connected

[@seseiSeki]

The GBA never having online capabilities is not quite true. Just like with the GBC, you could use the "Mobile Adapter GB", which was a cable where you'd hook your cellphone up to a GBC/GBA and access online features. The Battle Tower in Pokémon Crystal would pit you against other's teams of people who challenged the Battle Tower, you could trade and battle online. There was even an email client and a browser. Mario Kart Super Circuit had online leaderboards, etc. But yeah, Japan only and in 2001, so basically nonexistent :D

[@sonic26000]

It also didn't sell well at the time allegedly because kids at the time were way less likely to have their own mobile phones to use it

[@drdca8263]

Would crystal being played on a GBA, with that cable, work? You know, I used to assume that the GBA link cable, if between two GBAs which both had a GBC game in them, wouldn’t allow for the game link cable features of the GBC games to work. I think I heard otherwise though? [Edit: I have been told that, not quite. Thanks for the correction!] Which surprised me. I guess I thought that because the pins were different, that the game wouldn’t support it? But, I guess the console translates?

[@seseiSeki]

@@drdca8263 The GBA is compatible with GBC stuff that plugs into the link port, which includes the Mobile Adapter GB. If you want to use GB/GBC multiplayer features on a GBA, the official way would be to use a GBC link cable. But, way back when, a friend and I noticed, that the host plug of a GBA link cable (the grey one) would be able to initiate the communication, even in non-GBA games. So our solution was to plug a second GBA link cable into the first one, so that we both have a grey plug. Sounds weird, but that worked, which was lucky, since GBC link cables were no longer sold, but GBA link cables were lol

[@basedchristianmale]

🤓

[@drdca8263]

@@basedchristianmale What is your objection to knowing things?

[@kittypboxx]

Thanks for such a positive video! Really looking forward to finding out how far the functionality can be taken.

[@curiouscommand5916]

Technologically, the fact that this is possible is an awesome hack.

[@zekossss]

Man, your videos are fresh and interesting! So happy I discovered this channel.

[@bladearmorginga6582]

Ok real talk, how many takes for you to hit Zapdos with sheer cold.

[@drdca8263]

Man, I think I remember fantasizing about connecting a GBA to the internet through a link-cable-to-USB adapter back then (before the NDS was released I think?) I don’t remember exactly how I imagined it working. I think I imagined there being like, a website, which you could put a pokemon up for trade on? Or something? I don’t think I really had thought through the details. I was, of course , still a child back then. Actually, maybe I didn’t think of it quite as trading so much as “uploading” and “downloading”? At that time I didn’t really understand how technology worked. Like, I had imagined that applying OCR software to a page made with a typewriter where multiple characters were printed at the same location, would result in a character one could copy and paste into other text documents. Haha. Ah, childhood.

[@MintleafCakes]

i wonder if this will be expanded in the future to be able to be used with the rest of the third generation games. i'd love to try out my copy of leafgreen on this (it's the only gba pokemon game i have)

[@piplup2009]

Pokemon crystal next? It already has an online building in the japanese version

[@megamix5403]

The game won't recognize, the GCN Adapter tho

[@user-ro3hg9mf2c]

Any episode w/ John is a good episode

[@maxfight5744]

I love how you can use this with actual hardware which is amazing! Now I wish you could do this with a homebrewed 3DS it can get GBA roms on there and there's code for the games to link up locally (because of the GBC games) just wish some genius with free time could marry those ideas together

[@Ricar2002YT]

Very rad as flip indeed!

[@ILostMyOreos]

That's cool, but wake me up when you can do 4-player pokeblock making online

[@FATSUMI]

Good video per usual 🔥

[@themusicalmoogle]

This is amazing.

[@cesardka]

Oh my God, this is amazing!! I just got myself a GBA to GC cable, this will work perfectly!

[@Swampert_Tube]

do you have a flashcart tho?

[@cesardka]

@@Swampert_Tube I do, thankfully hahahah

[@grantm902]

Mario Kart Wii kept randomly dropping my connection in a way that MK7 never did. It was a big pain in the bum.

[@tcClockworth]

Looks like a pretty cool idea

[@powerchordgamer]

I'm sure you could get the ho-oh over by using a save editor before transferring it over to the real cart. the transporter and a few other steps check for pokemon that aren't possible. the ho-oh being low level, having hatched from an egg instead of being caught, and knowing splash, are all things that flagged it as being cheated in

[@Mgamerz]

I remember doing online megaman battle network 6 net battles back in 2007 on VBA and hamachi.

[@certifiedfridge]

You know what, I was just thinking about this today. The EXT port not existing on homebrew versions of the rom has always been a let down and has kept me playing on original hardware. Glad to see stuff like this come up. What would be neat is if we could use the 3ds’ wireless capabilities to emulate the link cable from GBAs. Kinda how GB and GBC emulation on 3ds does it. This would be amazing for the gen 3 games, along with gba in general!

[@silversonic1]

Now we need to get Crystal back online!

[@ItEm55]

I don't want to sound gay, but I really like your voice.

[@homuraakemi103]

Online Contests would be neat. Unlikely, but neat.

[@anonanonymous9670]

This is really cool but I doubt there will be that many users (at least for battling) Pokemon Showdown on Gen 3 format is way faster and easier for battling

[@watainiac627]

This just in, Jon has confessed to utilizing *illegally modified save data.* The Pokemon Company will now have him arrested. I wish I wasn't referencing real life events with this joke.

[@Mojo1356]

What is this in reference to?

[@stanzacosmi]

@@Mojo1356 in japan, you can now be arrested for using a console mod to modify save files.

[@Mojo1356]

@@stanzacosmi for moding a device you bought yourself? This is why Japan is a nice vacation place but not to live in. Among other reasons.

[@stanzacosmi]

@@Mojo1356 not for modding the device, modifying the save file directly.

[@noobstoise1024]

This is really cool, kind of wish I still had a wii with GameCube ports

[@kitestar]

I do~

[@KiraSlith]

That implies you have a Wii without GameCube ports.

[@noobstoise1024]

@@KiraSlith I do

[@KiraSlith]

@@noobstoise1024 That'd be impressive if it wasn't sad, Gamecube-less Wiis are a rarity, but nobody but hardcore collectors wants them for obvious reasons. You can pick up cheap Gamecube-compatible Wiis in good condition on most used goods sites for ~$40 still if you feel like an upgrade, this is the same generation where consoles exploded wildly in popularity just because they were notably cheap relative to the average effective income. Our descendents will probably be finding Wiis and 360s in storage units for generations. 😂

[@dragoncracker]

the ports can be added back to every version of the wii, including the mini@@noobstoise1024

[@VorpalBender]

I want a Ho-oh with Splash..

[@BeefJerkey]

Years ago I imagined a Wi-Fi adapter for the GBA, similar to the local wireless adapter. Figured it was possible, though probably not super easy to do. This here isn't quite that since it needs to be plugged into another console to piggyback on that internet connection, but it is a smart idea that uses hardware that already exists. I like it.

[@Caolan114]

This Is all I've ever wanted..

[@angy3736]

This is just so cool

[@xShadowless]

Good thingg i also have a Wii it could be something nice to look forward to once it gets everything set-up

[@rufioh]

Just waiting for Jon’s next Wii related video with an irregular pentagon shaped screen

[@Anders0429]

"How about a console that never had online?" GB Mobile Adapter: "am I a joke to you?"

[@BugCatcher-S]

This has great potential. Thanks for sharing. Only thing I do not like is the modification to the save/rom. I would prefer keeping it 100% vanilla as much as possible. I just wanna have friends to be able to trade with once in a while.

[@ericbelnades1257]

The next step will make it hilarious; working on 3ds... natively

[@reupdate]

Pokemons gonna jump to even bigger levels cause of this

[@benanding]

People have been playing original GameBoy games like Tetris online for at least three years now. The only requirement being a pcb known as a USB to GB Link Cable Adapter (made by stacksmashing). In a similar vein, a small group of dedicated fans reverse engineered the GEN2 and GEN3 trade protocols to create a custom hardware solution that allows G/S/C games playing on a GBC to trade pokemon "up" to R/S/E/FR/LG games playing on a GBA; the missing link in the chain of getting your precious childhood zubat from Blue to Violet

[@KingCornWallis]

Has goppier made his trade solution public?

[@alienJIZ1990]

Initially I didn't see much use for this since everything is still trapped on Gen 3, but if this could be combined in s single docker container with ”rbobillot/gts-cloning-machine" this could have massive potential for an alternative to Gen 3 to 4 trades! They already run on different ports (8080, 8081/9000) as if a joint project was meant to be, and at that point it'd just take some effort to translate Gen 3 to GTS and vice-versa. All possible in theory but would take engineering effort for that translation

[@dullah1434]

I hope there will be an update that will allow you to battle with anyone… that would be so cool

[@juliawolf156]

I really like this setup 😊 From a practicality standpoint i prefer PokeMMO since it has basically everything already figured out. You can just dump the roms into a directory and play on a computer without additional software or hardware for that matter. But the thing as a whole is awesome. Funnily enough my ex wanted to do this using an adapter by stacksmashing but as far as i‘m aware she didn‘t end up doing it.

[@SSJ3MetaridleyXros]

will this work later with other gen 3 games (R/S/FR/LG) or possibly Col/XD? Also it would be cool if this would also work for gen 1+2 games

[@TDG386]

Jon is carrying this channel ngl

[@doczombiez]

I wonder if it would be possible to use a legitimate GBA console then the link cable to pc? The mayflash gamecube port adapters do exist and they're really cheap! Very excited to see this develop more in the future

[@alicevioleta3184]

i hope we can get this for gbc games too

[@stupidvideogameclips]

Jon is one hell of a game modder. Another day, another amazing and difficult hack pulled off by Jon.

[@nerothejokeemperor9563]

Now lets do this with other rom hacks and ill love this forever

[@Medachod]

How about someone finally updates the RetroArch cores (Gambatte and mGBA) so they can have separate screen multiplayer? Not dissing this, though. It is actually insane. But dang, Android remains the only real solution for Game Boy and GBA multiplayer.

[@stanzacosmi]

its because of how strict the GBA link cable requires the speeds to be, if it becomes too slow, the connection just gets hard lost, so the only way to do that over the internet is to slow the game itself down on both ends

[@Medachod]

@@stanzacosmi Doesn't explain how Android achieves it.

[@kitestar]

@@stanzacosmiin other words, because IOS doesn’t allow JIT compilers, we can’t have this?

[@stanzacosmi]

@@kitestar that and the speeds of wireless transfer fluctuate on when you recieve it. Its the same reason why the only GBA link cable in emulators is local only on PCs

[@Dave01Rhodes]

@@stanzacosmibut the GBA Wireless Adapter that FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald support should be able to put up with some latency. I’d love to see if someone could tie into that, potentially using Stacksmashing’s GB link hardware.

[@Pepperknight341]

Would be cool if they added this to Ruby and Sapphire.

[@nintendians]

crazy and insane.

[@Chrisezo]

I think its awesome that this can even be done nowadays, but since a computer is needed for the entire process, I don't really see a point to using actual hardware anymore, unless you're like into making it feel as genuine as possible, but if I did this to play that version of Emerald and stuff, I would just stick to emulating everything on my own computer. What would be amazing though, if they figured out a way to actually do this for the emulators available on iOS and Android now, and that you didn't need a computer in between to make the connection, as that would give new life to these older games, since it would keep the original spirit of them being fully portable, as with some of the emulators on Android you can currently do link cable emulation through Bluetooth or WiFi, but as far as I am aware there is still no online play for that, so it would really be awesome if they could make it work somehow.

[@MrRetrostage]

Jon is the best!

[@mikadigital2867]

Very cool

[@pokejacob123]

Question, do the Pokémon gain EXP when defeating one of the custom Pokémon? Or is it treated the same as a battle against your friend, where it doesn't level up? Because using this to grind exp off 3 Blissey would be so cool.

[@SuperrSonic]

Seems about as practical as bringing out Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon.

[@Redhotsmasher]

I just realized now that gen 3 (never played gen 3 back in the day) never actually had any online at all even though gen 2 technically did. Only for like a year or something in the early 2000s, if you lived in Japan, and had the right cell phone, and the right adapter, and paid a subscription fee, but still.

[@Dave01Rhodes]

I wonder how open the GBA to GC cable is. Could you have GC/Wii homebrew that presents itself to the GBA as a GBA Wireless Adapter, then connect multiple together through an internet tunnel? The GBAWA has to be able to handle some latency. I wonder if it could work. If it could, then you could pop into the Union Room with a vanilla copy of FireRed, LeafGreen, or Emerald and have it be populated by people online.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

This shoud happen for the other gen 3 games as well: Fire Red, Leaf Green, Ruby and Sapphire. Gen 3 was kind of a mess in that completing the Pokedex required trading to numerous versions of Pokemon, so for Emerald to be the only game, that's still got some holes. I understand that this is just a beta though.

[@b2j135]

that's cool

[@Regard-zt7gk]

i feel like most of the best GBA and DS hack/modding is wasted on Pokemon. The popularity is undeniable, but the multiplayer time we'd see in stuff like Four Swords, Amazing Mirror, and Sonic Advance 3 would be a spectacle. Like Monster Hunter with 3ds emulation - always active

[@904funny]

They should go a step further and allow Gen 3 wonder trading

[@MizuhoChan]

Technically, it did have online via the netcard, which while cancelled, was actually prototyped and created. So not very useful, but it existed :)

[@Superlavagamer.]

I wonder if there would be a way to make this work with the e reader so that it could use official cartridges

[@TheAugoosetus]

I wonder if you’d be able to do this while running the Rom on DSi or 3DS

[@BuNnyDuDeDaRoO]

Brandon was on dolphin

[@MintleafCakes]

@@BuNnyDuDeDaRoO to be fair though it might be a bit more difficult to connect a ds or 3ds to a wii. i dont know the intricacies of that, but its not like they have connector cables for either of them, at least i dont think so. could be wrong though.

[@Joel97_]

​@@MintleafCakesno, it shouldn't be possible, like you said you need to physically connect to it. Plus, the 3ds running natively GBA doesn't help, you aren't emulating so unless you modify the GBA firmware to somehow connect to the server, doubt it will work. I would gladly like to be corrected but, there hasn't been any way to connect anywhere, not even locally while running a GBA (Or GB). Most you could do is maybe try patching the special emulator of 3DS for the Pokemon Gameboy games that enables local wireless but I'm pretty sure people already tried bringing that online.

[@maxalmonte14]

If only adding all this on an authentic cartridge via e-reader was possible... Probably not, since the events have to fix in very limited memory, but still, it would be cool.

[@MegaManNeo]

I'd so try this if I had a copy of Pokémon Emerald. Those are expensive as heck tho :(

[@GardnerdFilms]

Now I want Carl’s Jr

[@904funny]

Pokémon Bank checks for legitimate movesets

[@NeoDrao]

Can do a video on mods for the ps3?

[@ThisIsCSDX]

So, if this gets taken down(not the video, I mean the project), could that be a confirmation that TPC is trying to get these games on NSO like when they shut down AM2R since they were doing a remake of Samus Returns, or will it just be them being pRoTeCtIvE of their IP like with Ocarina of Time 2D and countless other fan-made nonprofit projects?

[@chrissama11]

I wonder if that works on a 3ds with a vc injected rom

[@venturous]

Can’t believe the Wii is used as a router now

[@HappyLight.]

No way!!

[@beardalaxy]

but does it work with secret bases??

[@vixenoreos]

not gonna lie this is fucking awesome :D!!!! i cant wait to mod my friends wii and do this omg we are gonna have a blast :D

[@DarkJ1425]

Hold on, there was a way to gift games to friends through Wii shop? I absolutely had no idea

[@cjt217]

This is wild, but I don't have any desire to ever utilize such tech

[@Caolan114]

I got stuck on the port forwarding part I have no Idea what to do with nodejs

[@pimpingkek4947]

amazing quality of life update! aloha from maui

[@_Banjo_]

Celio server? ohhhh Celio the character in LG FR

[@thetotodile7261]

Do i need a wii to make this work ?

[@AbolishAllIPLaws]

How can this work on 3DS VC versions?

[@RevrenD23]

Wow... For the 13 people who will use this, it must be a life changer...

[@guguig9746]

Technology is amazing

[@JustJulyo]

Jon how's your back carrying this channel?

[@elmasterz81]

Anyone knows if this patch can be used in a 3DS using wi fi?

[@henriquearroxelas1510]

Awesome. I hope someone makes it work for mario kart super circuit