Pokémon: Ruby, Sapphire, & Emerald Versions (GBA) Retrospective | Too Much Water

[@ntmaproductions]

Dragon is a special type, I am stupid 😋

[@duffy5079]

Dang 3 hours and 22 min. Mad respect. Subbed

[@redjoker139]

This unironically messed me up in my latest elite 4 run of ruby and sapphire, thank you so much

[@SwagMonztr]

It’s actually ‘pooch hyena’and ‘might hyena’’, like the hyenas in africa

[@ntmaproductions]

@@SwagMonztr maybe

[@SwagMonztr]

Furthermore, it’s pronounced ‘fa sawed’

[@IzzyItachi]

It’s a good day when you find a 3 hour long retrospective focused on the best Pokémon games.

[@ntmaproductions]

*cough* we did gen 1 and 2 videos too *cough* haha thanks for watching appreciate it!

[@sebastiansantana2447]

@@ntmaproductionsnow i know what to put while i clean my room.. thank you

[@alexdoll4258]

But this isn't a HG/SS video?

[@Firewatch___]

@@ntmaproductions If only Gen 1 and Gen 2 weren't factual worse games than X/Y. :P

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Firewatch___ absolutely false zoomie

[@volvagia2131]

The desert on Route 111 exists because of something called the "rain shadow" effect. Basically, Mt. Chimney blocks most rain that would land on its eastern side, and the area is extremely dry as a result. They didn't just randomly dump a desert there for the sake of biome diversity. Take a look at National Geographic or Wikipedia's article on rain shadow if you want to know more.

[@rainpooper7088]

Is this actually mentioned in-game or is this another "Fridge Brilliance" thing where fans come up with fan theories on why any potential flaws in their game no matter how petty are totally brilliant actually, even though there's no indication the creators themselves actually thought about it that hard? Forgive me for being suspicious, but I've had Pokémon fans try to tell me that stuff like the Azurill genderswap glitch was totally intentional actually and a totally brilliant reference to some marine life undergoing sex changes under certain circumstances. Of course that was bs, it was obviously just an error caused by the differing gender ratios that they fixed in later games. Not that the Pokémon creators never do odd things on purpose, Nidoqueen's inability to breed turned out to have been planned since Gen 1, but sometimes fans just really like to pull random real world phenomena that may not even actually apply if you look into them any more closely (Marill is not a clownfish or napoleon fish or whatever) out of their asses to make the games look more "legit" or whatever when the devs were just trying their best to make a fun game.

[@shiftfire4511]

​@rainpooper7088 I can safely say it's a real effect, although whether that was taken into account when actually designing the area, I have no idea. It wouldn't be the first time GF and Nintendo did something like that, though. They have an insane and weird attention to detail, especially around this time period of game development. It seems like the GBA/Gamecube first party games have the most examples of stuff like this. I mean, Wind Waker has a specialized animation setup solely for Link's feet to not clip through stairs or slopes.

[@eclipsedbadger]

...damnit this makes sense! I remember playing and not understanding why there was some random desert, this explanation and what I read makes so much sense.

[@ZyrusSmith]

@rainpooper7088 Rain shadow is a real world weather phenomena and gen 3 Hoenn is specifically themed around weather so I don't find it implausible that the game designers took into account actual events in weather to inspire the level design.

[@YesYes-yt3lb]

This kid just complains about everything for content

[@GrantTheHierophant]

Imaging rolling up to the Elite Four with Five zizagoons with dozens of rare candy stuck to their fur.

[@ntmaproductions]

optimal strategy

[@tonobaker601]

@@ntmaproductionsand a level 84 blaziken

[@SaintWest.]

​@@tonobaker601 and level 90 Sceptile

[@jakemaypire9984]

@@SaintWest.and a level 98 Swampert , along with a level 63 Dustox

[@7FrIeDBaNaNaS7]

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[@ArcangelParagon]

I don’t think that Zangoose and Seviper being version exclusives means that they don’t get to play off each other. It actually makes perfect sense. In one world, Zangoose thrives and has eliminated the Sevipers, and in the other, there are no Zangoose, which explains the existence of Sevipers.

[@ntmaproductions]

I mean, true, but I think those Zangoose would be mad hungry 🤣

[@mikehunt5731]

You don’t understand the impact Ruby had on my childhood

[@cwooddirector]

I love that you touched on how hard it is to find Chimecho. Since no trainers use it in Ruby AND it has such a small encounter rate in a small area, I legitimately thought it was a Gen 4 Pokemon growing up (not helped by the addition of a pre-evolution in that gen). I played Ruby for hundreds of hours as a kid and never once found it.

[@ntmaproductions]

its index number indicates it was the last gen 3 pokemon added/made, so funny enough they probqbly just didn't have time to impliment a trainer to use him for the dex search :)

[@tomgresis7720]

Reminds me of skarmory. I thought it was a gen 3 for a long time

[@ADragonFruit440]

I literally didn’t even know chimecho was findable in gen 3 and I’ve been playing it for like 10 years

[@vincecalvo3]

@@ADragonFruit440same rn bro

[@Real_JuliaLaGorda]

Fyi the reason for so much water af the end was because hoenn is a water/land yinyang. The centers are sootopolis and mt chimney respectively. Its really neat because it represents the balance of groudon and kyogre, but results in a ton of water

[@ntmaproductions]

Yeah that was just a reference to IGN’s initial review of it back in the day lol

[@rajko15]

I don't know how many generations you're familiar with or would want to do full videos on but I hope you continue doing this for as many gens as possible

[@ntmaproductions]

all of them, all of them, and I plan on it :)

[@rajko15]

@@ntmaproductions amazing!

[@ntmaproductions]

@@rajko15 ORAS is in production :) Colosseum is too but is kinda backburner right now, and I'm also planning on doing Pinball soon too, although that's a pretty different game

[@rajko15]

@@ntmaproductions that's awesome man keep up the great work! 👏🏻

[@MarioBeart]

@@ntmaproductions Nice! I'm very curious about what you'll think about BW, XY and SM, especially their post games.

[@bigd8199]

Fun fact this is the first video I ever saw that has been uploaded that fast onto KZbin!! Wow and thank you!! Lol

[@ntmaproductions]

gotta go fast

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

Groudon being in an underwater cave makes more sense than you might think. Rhetorical Questions: Where do volcanic islands come from? How do they form? What *doesn’t* make sense, is Team Magma’s plan. Releasing Groudon to intensify the Sun’s rays *might* dry up the sea… eventually… but in the short term (if irl Earth is analogous to Pokearth), the Intense heat would rapidly melt the planet’s ice caps thus *raising water level* which is a W for Team Aqua. If Team Magma wanted more land, they should’ve leaned more into Groudon’s GROUND typing and looked for a more *seismic* solution out in the sea; get some more volcanoes out there. …which might cause Tsunamis, which would flood the current landmasses with more water, so I guess Team Magma was screwed from the beginning.

[@ntmaproductions]

I mean the Groudon point is fair, moreso it's an illustration of how Ruby feels like an afterthought- I know the Manga potrays the caverns as an interconnected network under Hoenn linking it to the volcano, but it still feels weird to surf to the physical embodiment of land. Magma and Aqua both have an inherent struggle with seeming reasomable because neither land or sea seem to be facing any kind of issue with resources, so increasing or decreasing the landmass makes them both look rather silly. ORAS actually makes this stronger by relating Magma to civilization/technology/progress etc and making it clear they're very human centric in wanting to dominate nature while Aqua leans more towards crazed PETA members who just want to return to nature. Perhaps that intention was more clear and lost in translation, but I'm somewhat inclined to believe that someone at GF also realized how shallow (haha) the teams came off and attempted to make their motivations make more sense, even if Magma ultimately still has a lot of hurdles making more land. Perhaps they could've had Groudon shoot magma into the ocean itself to make some nice hard lavarock to stand on.

[@GenThreeGuys-bt7li]

Sea level won’t rise if ice caps melt. It maintains its level anyway. Same with ice in a cup of water.

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

@@GenThreeGuys-bt7li You… realize that there’s plenty of snow and ice *above* the ocean’s surface, right? Do you even understand how the ice cube thing works? That only counts for ice that’s *SUBMERGED* in the water. There’s this thing at the bottom of the planet, called *Antarctica;* maybe you’ve heard of it? If you look on a globe you *might* find that it is, in fact, *not* underwater.

[@velvetblueco2422]

Gen 3 is my personal favorite. Great video

[@robmalcolm8042]

I liked firered and leafgreen a bit more than ruby, sapphire and emerald. Mainly cause of how the vs seeker and the stronger trainers on the sevii islands alllowed training to high level pretty smooth and easy compared to many of the other pokemon games. Even Gen 5 with its audinos and fast smooth battles wasn’t as good as Gen 3 for training. I know black 2 and white 2 had that tower you could rebattle at high levels but that could still be tedious and I still prefered gen 3. R,s,e are quite a bit more of a drag tho than the red and blue remakes because of limited post game and training available.

[@minty9245]

As an OG old ass Pokémon fan, gen three will always be my favorite, despite all its flaws

[@-Down-D-Stairs-]

Me too!!!

[@Magetastic69]

Zero shot you played during current gen 1 or 2, then found 3 your favorite lol. As someone that never liked Gen 3 much, it was my last Gen as a kid I played, I always preferred Gen 2 or 1 despite how much less polished they are lol.

[@simonsimon2461]

Heeey people habe different opinions who would've thought

[@stephanie_supreme]

​@simonsimon2461 agreed. As someone who has been playing since gen 1, and absolutely loved gen 2, gen 3 is where I spent all my time grinding and playing over the other two gens. Gen 3 will always have a special place in my heart.

[@traiges414]

I nearly sank to my knees out of happiness when seeing this on my frontpage - I am looking forward to listen it many times 😊 Thank you for the great work

[@ntmaproductions]

Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire coming soon!

[@ChrrolloDI]

Sinking to your knees is wild

[@traiges414]

@@ChrrolloDI I thought the same when I met with your mom the other day - but she still did D:

[@ChrrolloDI]

​@@traiges414he's not gonna peg you buddy. Move along to someone who will.

[@PhantoRoyce]

One of my earliest memories is drawing me riding my swampert in like 1st grade because of how obsessed I was with this game. I played a good amount of Crystal so to go from that FULL COLOR,INDIVIDUAL SPRITES, and just such a huge selection of different Pokémon types and styles to choose from. I remember my team was ass but I didn’t care because they looked so cool.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@PhantoRoyce I've always been a fire guy myself. Blaziken and Ninjask were my team pillars 😅

[@PhantoRoyce]

@@ntmaproductions I could barely read when I first played the game so I just went “I want the blue one” cause it was my favorite color and it wasn’t until my friend showed me his Blaziken did I change my mind to it be big my favorite. I remember I transferred him all my Pokémon and started a new game. I felt so cool to have a Blaziken AND a Swampert

[@ntmaproductions]

@@PhantoRoyce I was still in the naming everything AAAAAAAAA phase

[@PhantoRoyce]

@@ntmaproductions I remember I named them regular names. My Blaziken was Kyle and my Swellow was Jimmy

[@Nagatem]

Slateport being nuked by Unova in the past would be hilariously messed up

[@jenisia3600]

Just finished it, amazing job man. You truly know how to do retrospective feel like audio strategy guides. Thank you so much for putting so much effort and patience and not being cringe like other channels.

[@ntmaproductions]

lol thank you

[@omgwtfgdc]

Feebas is found in six water tiles on route 119 in the original gen III games. Changing the Dewford trendy phrase is what changes the six spots. I believe the 4 spots that change daily is how you encounter it in gen IV in DPP.

[@robmalcolm8042]

Bro I couldnt believe how easily I found it the last play through of emerald! I played emerald countless times and ruby and sapp and could never find it but checking all the tiles I found it pretty easy. Felt like an achievement since when I was younger I could never find it.

[@Anthony-tz2wb]

Great video I can appreciate the time it took to make this, looking forward to a Platinum retrospective

[@ntmaproductions]

ORAS and Colosseum first, then DPP! but i appreciate it!

[@KrunchieBlaque]

I will watch these forever. Haven’t even started abd alredg earned a sub dude

[@DutchDesires]

As a non english speaking kid, I took great pride in my Swellow, who had all ribbons in all of the contest categories. Even pallparked her away to the sinnoh region to get all the ribbons once more.

[@robmalcolm8042]

Swellow was the hoenn flying type usual choice. The only weakness it had was how frail it was and its attack was decent but not great. It was fast as heck tho in speed.

[@JacobOman-qb1lm]

@@robmalcolm8042it was good early game but after gym 2 it’s useless

[@robmalcolm8042]

@JacobOman-qb1lm I've beat the game with it multiple times but won't lie it was almost useless. Died many times in the league even at higher levels. It's nothing like staraptor or the gen 5 flying type.

[@jenisia3600]

Fuk yes, is finally here. Gonna leave it in the background as i work

[@reddy4play]

Idek what this is but it goes hard when it auto plays while I’m asleep

[@TheAzulmagia]

I assume that Steven's Aggron has Thunder for Kyogre and Solar Beam for Groudon, but uh... good luck hitting either of those hard enough for it to matter!

[@ntmaproductions]

lol that's a really funny idea

[@kyotofoo]

I first watched your GSC restrospectives a while back and I just got this video recommended today, glad to see you’re still making these! As a fellow upstart long-form-video-game-related-video-maker guy I know how much effort goes into these massive projects and it’s nice to see you’re getting some attention on your work. You clearly know your stuff and present it in a way that had me entertained enough to watch this in one sitting, kudos! Should’ve done this back when I saw the first video, but I subbed

[@ntmaproductions]

It's a lot of work 😅 I'm sure you'll get there too pal, I'm gonna check your stuff out while I'm working tomorrow. I appreciate it a ton!

[@kyotofoo]

@@ntmaproductions Thanks brotha, gonna keep at it for the love of the craft and if the algorithm blesses me then so be it! Hope you enjoy

[@ntmaproductions]

@@kyotofoo All about keepin it goin, someone will notice eventually

[@CartersRemasters]

Hope one of these videos blows up super big for you…a good million or two..I always think X & Y has that potential, hasn’t really been a in detail retrospective, at least that I can remember. So many damn Pokémon in that game though, you’d have to cover so much

[@ntmaproductions]

someday 🥲

[@judgarella]

Amazing video, my favorite retrospective I've seen on any topic, pokemon or otherwise. Thanks for your efforts!

[@ntmaproductions]

Glad you enjoyed it! These take a long time to get done so we appreciate it!!

[@judgarella]

@@ntmaproductions I'll be checking out your others soon, looking forward to more of these in the future, in particular for DPP!

[@ntmaproductions]

Finishing up ORAS then we’ll hop into DPP! If you go to our channel page we have playlists with game retrospectives and Pokemon retrospectives specifically. Thanks for checking out our stuff!!

[@judgarella]

@@ntmaproductions Lots to look forward to, and I'll definitely have a look

[@nvxvHa]

I had just gotten into ur channel and got through all ur Pokémon vids this past week and to be treated with this now was certainly a surprise but can’t wait to watch it all

[@ntmaproductions]

Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire around new years!

[@nvxvHa]

@@ntmaproductions don’t be afraid to take your time with them if it means them coming out a little bit later, don’t rush yourself to meet a personal deadline if you don’t feel the quality is there but I’ll be waiting for the upload whenever it does happen, ORAS are my favorite games from the 3D era so looking forward to it

[@ntmaproductions]

@@nvxvHa oras wont be too far off :)

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

Seeing this for the first time today… hearing that untie song for these games still makes me freaking weep from nostalgia

[@theabby_g]

Three hour video on one of my favorite gens? Yes please Great video!!

[@ntmaproductions]

We did the remake too!

[@irvin966]

One of my favorite Gens! Love that intro!!!! ❤🎉❤🎉😊

[@aroma2057]

Recommended this at like 400 views, no clue what channel. But the comments… such glimmering reviews, I have to give this a go. 👏

[@NikolasN64]

Great video, really quality. As I usually do, I played a long video to help me sleep but I ended up watching like 45 minutes of it because it was pretty engaging. Came back this morning to finish her off. If I could make a critique, I think that adding a black border around the white numbers you used to show the levels that Pokemon evolve (Ex. 23:48) would make it more readable superimposed on the gameplay. Obviously a small nitpick on a great vid, yea good stuff.

[@ntmaproductions]

Thanks 🙏

[@ntmaproductions]

I had the black border in prior videos but gimp, somehow, doesn't have an outline function for its text tool (that I know??) and I wanted to get this out in a mroe reasonable time than adding the numbers in seperately in vegas as i had in the gsc video 😭

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

What I like about the box legendaries is how despite the “obvious” type advantage of Kyogre… its not clear who would win in a fight. If Groundon sets the weather over Kyogre, then not only water moves are halved, it can fire Solar Beam without charging, if Kyogre sets the rain over Kyogre, then it wins. But both have the exact same base speed, so its truly a 50/50 battle.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@MrKlausbaudelaire ORAS gave Groudon a crazy advantage state over Kyogre which is cool

[@PsyCHo015100]

I came here from watching on my TV to comment that I laughed harder than I should have at Linoon Hutz.

[@ntmaproductions]

sometimes i hit a really brilliant nickname

[@tsgtajirisilvergaming90]

I want to start with y'all's videos on pokémon are absolutely top tier I love how you all cover the entire game and routes. When I was younger I had to save up enough money as I didn't have an allowance to buy gold and my game boy color. I was absolutely immersed in that game and played it for hours catching every pokémon just basically beating the game entirely. I remember when I was 12 or 13 I saw commercials for Ruby and Sapphire and it was on the brand new system game boy advance. At that time I just knew that I would not be able to play the new games after just purchasing a game boy years prior. That's where my journey with pokémon kind of ended. Fast forward to when I was 16 I was loaned a Nintendo DS, the first thing I did with my pocket money was buy pokémon emerald. Nostalgia is very blinding but it's very different when you're a teenager playing this game. It's still ranks highly in my top two pokémon games of all time, Yes it has flaws however the game is very comforting soundtrack and all. I loved how it forced you to use new pokémon and sprinkled in older pokémon throughout the game, gave you an opportunity to experiment with new teams. A lot of my new favorites were founded this way. In gold version Kanto was primarily the dominant pokémon in the game so when I got to play emerald it was very refreshing. My dream version with this game is to download the ROM and edit it in a way that breathes new life into the game while holding the similar nostalgic feel. Update the new type chart, add more pokémon without making it a hardcore randomizer. Just emerald with a few bug tweaks, and a fresh coat of paint. I love this generation Even with its flaws..

[@ntmaproductions]

despite everything I love Gen 3, very comfy in their own ways

[@SenorPuffball]

I think what you’ve said about gen 3 being the ideal sweet spot for Pokémon learnsets and coverage is very accurate. Distinctly remember in DPP having my staraptor learn close combat and realizing we’ve truly jumped the shark lol. That gen really started the moveset homogeneity train with busted moves like stealth rock and u turn being so widely distributed, when they really should’ve stayed a lot more exclusive to their respective types to bolster their niches.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@SenorPuffball lol to be fair close combat makes staraptor usable unlike his early route shitburd brethren, but yeah, we kinds tipped over the edge fast after this

[@samsorensen5246]

Loved the video! Thanks so much for your efforts and I hope to see more. ❤

[@ntmaproductions]

plenty on the way :)

[@TFSthegreat]

Surskit can also be found in Emerald through mass outbreaks in the postgame

[@ntmaproductions]

only if you record mix with a copy of RSE :p

[@RobertLydonReviews]

“Unova nuked it” that’s horrible but also kinda hilarious. I just watched your FRLG Video and really enjoyed it and same with this one. I appreciate your dry humor.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@RobertLydonReviews I appreciate it! I've done several at this point and more should be around soon :)

[@TotallyAtopiaYT]

Hi man I really enjoyed this kind of video i would love to see in the future remakes and Spin-offs!

[@ntmaproductions]

We did ORAS recently! Thanks for watching 🙏

[@cayder7485]

LETS GOOOOO RIGHT AS I ENDED WORK FOR THE WEEK TOO THIS COULDNT BE BETTER

[@escapethefate79]

My fav game of all time. I may be blinded by nostalgia, but thats okay with me

[@himbourbanist]

I love how they did the Wurmple line in Gen 3. Teaches you about evolution, AND stat differentials. Both Beautifly and Dustox are very similar, and both learn similar move sets, but one is a Special Defender and the other a Special Attacker. They're both really solid up to Level 20 when you start getting much better stuff, but it's cool and fun to have a fully evolved stage 3 pokemon with a decent enough move spread early on. Overall I think the spread of early game pokemon in Gen 3 is superb. You can build out a fairly fleshed-out team with some surprisingly good type coverage before you even get to Rustboro, especially if you're willing to hunt around for a Ralts. You have great options for the first gym - Shroomish, Lotad (in Sapphire), Seedot (although he doesn't really learn any great grass type moves for a while), Wingull learns Water Gun early on and can defend decently against rock type as a result. You don't NEED to pick Mudkip to be competitive for the first gym at all.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@himbourbanist Yeah, Wurmple is an incredibly clever play on the Caterpie/Weedle, Ledyba/Spinarak, etc. dynamic, it also has the benefit of teaching you that getting the same Pokemon twice can be beneficial too, you probably don't inherently know about the IV System, because it's a nightmare, but raising a second Wurmple might give you a vague notion that something is going on. Thry definitely put a ton of thought into the early game encounters, arguably more than any other game. Even in DPPt the options hit some walls- Starly is a great bird but it's not useful against the first gym, Bidoof can be but needs a ton of work, Budew only appears in the morning which severely limits how many people will see it, Psyduck is a 1% in a cave that takes about 20 seconds to cross, Abra needs too much grinding to be helpful, etc. They do give Machop pretty freely but that's certainly not a replacement for RSE's breadth of options, and the issue is arguably even worse in BW(1) where the path to the first gym is almost entirely very boring Normal types.

[@dilanmarin8663]

>Pokemon Emerlad Version as the name of one of the chapters lol. Great video btw

[@vinzseika9826]

I found this video by chance and I just happened to be in the mood to play Pokemon and ho boy, your video is awesome, it tickle my nostalgia goggles. I have a fond memory playing Ruby and Sapphire on my GBA and GBA SP, with Sapphire as my "main” game, with my Sapphire team of Sceptile, Gardevoir, Pelipper, Crawdaunt, Flygon and Armaldo while my Ruby team of Swampert, Gardevoir, Swellow, Linoone, Manectric and Wailord. Maybe not the best team but i really fond of them. My favorite memory is catching shiny Kyogre with 1 Great Ball at full health, something i never know can happened. I'm not really like the pink Kyogre, but i think i'm already use all my luck to catch it. And i never knew about Emerald until my best friend who have Emerald told me about Rayquaza. Your video really makes me want to play gen 3 again, maybe i'm gonna try playing Emerald, either the vanilla one or rom hack that ”fix” the game with later generation mechanic and pokemon or heck, a moemon rom hack for something different.

[@ntmaproductions]

armaldo is such a sick pick tbh. personally don't think emerald needs improvement patches, but you do you. 😅

[@ciaranevans666]

We eating good tonight boys

[@panose6542]

I remember getting stuck because I thought the guy who traded shards for evolution stones was the guy who gives you dive

[@Trinstar]

Another banger! Thanks so much for doing this series, you’ve done an amazing job with all of them. I really appreciate all your hard work !!😊

[@ntmaproductions]

Thank you!! ORAS is plodding along :)

[@DirtyMike124x]

Bro my name is Dale and I've been on a Pokemon kick lately, getting back to my roots, and I can't believe I never noticed Oldale as a kid lol. Very ironic name for me to notice now XDDDDD

[@ntmaproductions]

@@DirtyMike124x bro's gotten old 😔

[@DirtyMike124x]

@@ntmaproductions definitely getting there 😅 but from the sounds of alot of this Pokémon KZbin content, it looks and sounds like a lot of us are lol. You are strikingly and refreshingly thorough in your analysis, I am greatly enjoying it. Learning a lot as well, I was always pretty casual about it when younger. Emerald was not hard, I picked Mudkip, and imagine I ended up grinding a lot of levels just roaming around. I can't remember any strategies I used so I'm going to have to say I don't think I had many 🤣 there was lot of information about game mechanics I was not privy too. Things were either effective, not effective, or very effective in my mind 🤣 I can't help but lean towards some meta gaming now, especially with so much easy access insight practically being spoonfed to me. Ive been on the hunt for a good Emerald rom hack that preserves the core experience, maybe some QoL, and some tasteful difficulty. Your video is gonna help me bring my A Game haha

[@oneautumnleaff2119]

Groudon under water actually does make sense because of underwater volcanoes but yeah, they likely just swapped sprites. And the fact there's a volcano in the mountains already established

[@aster4jaden]

I just want to say i'm loving your Pokemon Retrospectives they are so incredibly detailed, especially when you talk about the newly introduced Pokemon. The first Gen 3 Pokemon Game I got was Sapphire funny enough it was similar to Pokemon Silver, it was an American Version although Sapphire wasn't a bootleg so I was able to play it without issue. I didn't understand Abilities to atleast until Gen 5 but I loved the concept of Holding Items (I didn't understand them in Gen 2) and growing Berries, I also loved Pokemon Contests and Double Battles it was such a refreshing different take on battles and Kyogre became one of my all time favourite Pokemon, in the end I swapped my friend for his Pokemon Sapphire for my Medabots game. Later I did buy Pokemon Emerald, and enjoyed it a lot especially getting all three Super Ancient Pokemon and even did the Regi Puzzles and captured them, the Battle Frontier was a great surprise and even now i'm sad it never came back in the remakes. Fun mention, for awhile I thought Latios and Latias was Lugia's pre-evolutions.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@aster4jaden Gotta breed the Latis to get the purple one, Latius ;). I was also a Sapphire kid and quite loved it, even if I was a dumb kid, but there's undoubtedly a ton to see and do and explore, it's hard not to be in awe of everything they added

[@aster4jaden]

@@ntmaproductions I another thing I loved about RSE was the introduction to Secret Bases, I found one on an Island and roleplayed it was my Players private Island. Even though there was people who didn't lie the too much water theme I personally enjoyed it and felt it added to the Game's charm.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@aster4jaden I just wish water routes had more mechanics and encounters, it's not inherently bad but on land every route has different stuff to find, you got little mazes, strength puzzles, caves, trainers can have anything- you hit the sea routes and you better love seeing wingull and tentacool or their evos, trainers got water types, often wingull and tentacool, they actually nailed the sea routes near the end with the currents, that's a great shakeup the water routes needed more of in some form.

[@Theduck8grapes]

In my opinion, these games still have the best opening compared to any other Pokemon game

[@ntmaproductions]

I'm partial to HGSS

[@xLadyRaine]

As a surskit fan, you perfectly explain was Masquerain is a disappointment. Which is a shame, because the design is great

[@ntmaproductions]

I have dreams about Masqurrain having 630 bst

[@CheddarMTG]

Saw the post about this video being removed. I really enjoy these retrospectives and id absolutely hate if youtube took them away😢

[@Zone_Person]

1:01 Ah yes, pokemon ruphire, my favorite game

[@ntmaproductions]

gamefreak was cookin

[@Zone_Person]

best legendaries, kyodon

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Zone_Person every turn sun and rain alternate

[@Zone_Person]

yes

[@Zone_Person]

and the green dragon, kyoquazadon

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

Hey there: playing sapphire, Zigzagoon using surf actually makes Spheal and several other waters more viable even if your overview did its job of telling us what they did, you made them seem pretty hard to use no matter what when it’s still possible for them to be a godsend

[@ntmaproductions]

@@gabrieldevoogel6225that's true, it's just a shame when stuff like that comes so late 😅

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

@@ntmaproductions yeah that’s fair

[@kellyelvester8738]

Your narrative is amazing!

[@mqtakk]

Time for my weekly rewatch

[@ntmaproductions]

🫡

[@buihelgason]

Gen 3 was my first gen. Sapphire was like fucking magic. My brother and I played it for months, being stuck before the first badge. I accidentally erased our save, and it's like that magically made something clicked and we started progressing. It was soooo cool playing it and getting further and further. When Kyogre started moving towards us I was shit scared. Emerald has since become my favorite. Playing it for the first time, felt like playing through one of the fake videos with fake locations and legendaries. So good.

[@mairain6443]

One thing to Note about Lunatone is that it's the only way to get a second moon stone . So If you play Ruby Or Emerald you technically can't get both Delicatty or Wigglytuff without trading making them Pseudo version exclusives, this was fixed in the remakes to have pick-up find moon stones at level 40 plus. Only Gloom needs the sun stone which is a gift from a NPC in moss-deep city space centre.

[@ntmaproductions]

I do eventually round-about mention that when I talk about Mt. Moon, but it seemed too weird and complicated for a simple version exclusive bit 🤣

[@ntmaproductions]

*Meteor Falls look at me go

[@ntmaproductions]

Also notable in ORAS you can get moon stones off of clefairy as well, as well as a multitude of other ways like secret bases, super training, and inverse battling. the pseudo-version exclusivity also extends with emerald because of sunkern :)

[@mairain6443]

@@ntmaproductions I always forget about Sunkern being in Emerald.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@mairain6443 i always forget about sunkern

[@vismayhem8413]

i picked up on the "brutal pun" with sharpedo. nice

[@M3rtyville]

The things I dislike about Gen 3 are: - removal of the day and night circle - introducing version exclusive legendaries which lead to people having to buy multiple of the same game to complete the dex as it is unlikely someone is gonna give up their only legendary - too much water: You mentioned it but it goes further. The most viable starter is a water type, you need a water type for the hms, some of the best Pokemon are water type, in the sea routes you fight only water types, the final gym leader is a water type, the best Pokemon in Sapphire for ingame play is a water type, a water type get the most advantage ingame runs because rain is the most frequent weather in routes, in Emerald the Champion uses water types... it is so annoying. - not being able to transfer Pokemon which I forgive them for hardware limitations but the way they allow you get old Pokemon back is scummy by putting very few of them in multiple games. You need to buy Colosseum and XD to get Lugia and Ho-oh unless you can get to Navel Rock. You need Pokemon Channel or the Colosseum Bonus Disc for Jirachi, Celebi and Mew are Japan exclusive, Deoxys and Mew you need a glitch to get - roaming Pokemon glitch which is only fixed in Emerald making the roaming Pokemon for battle tower like challenges less viable. I managed to beat the Battle Tower thanks to Sapphire Latias whichi is a surprise. To get the dogs (beasts, cats or dinosaurs Idk the lore anymore... imma call them just dogs) at their best potential, you need to get Colosseum. - Groudon not being a Fire Type. It just doesn't really benefit from Sun besides losing the weakness to Water. You are not gonna run Solarbeam on it (maybe ingame) because it's special attack is pretty low and Kyogre can just overwrite it with rain. Fire Blast is ok I guess for ingame. But you really gonna just spam earthquake and don't do much else with it. Most will probably just use their starters or what they already have. Kyogre has so much fire power with rain boosted STAB moves and the coverage of BoltBeam with high base power never missing Thunder, that you can just slap it on your team and it gets the job done. Not to say that Groudon is bad, in fact I think it does better than any legendaries in the games after do ingame (for the most part). Dialga and Giratina were pretty useless against the Elite 4 in my playthroughs - Treeko being pretty underwhelming. Despite being a grass type, it is not able to break through the most common water types. Its only good move is Leaf Blade and it gets no secondary typing. Even when it got it's mega with Dragon Typing, you don't get Dragon Moves for it ingame from what I remember. So the only positives are the defensive advantages of grass type in that regard. - Fire types are pretty underwhelming. There are only a few to get and because so many water Pokemon are there, they don't shine. Blaziken is the best and both STAB moves get resisted by the "too much water" squad Tentacool, Wingul and Pelipper. A shame because I like him the best of the 3. I think the Zangoose and Seviper lore is neat. In Ruby the Zangoose killed all the snakes and in Sapphire and Emerald, Seviper succeeded. Gen 3 Oblivious only protects you from Attract and Cute Charm ability. Wynaut and its evolution are useful if you wanna trap Latias or Latios making them easier to catch. Otherwise they are pointless to use in-game. I don't like Ruby in the Pokemon Special Manga. He is such a gary stu especially in the oras chapters. good video. looking forward on the ORAS one

[@ntmaproductions]

I'll respind to this un a but jts just a lot lmao

[@ntmaproductions]

I don't mind day/night being gone much because I found timing my day around encounters to be a bit much, but it did add some nicr atmosphere. version exclusive legends are p inexcusable imo. there sure do be a ridiculous amount of water, although I think I brought most of that stuff up 😅 as nice as transferring would be it was out of the cards, but they definitely milked it, even if colo and xd arr interesting themselves. i brought up the roaming glitch in frlg too, but yeah its annoying. idk if Groudon would've actually been better if it were fire. all fire moves in gen 3 are special, and while it woulda had p nasty fire blasts, it doesn't seem that impactful when its main competition was Kyogre either way mega sceptule pretty good actually, it gets dual slash for dragon stuff and gets a massive bump to physical but also has insane focus blasts off its still amazing special and stuff, definitrly most improved hopefully oras aint too far off 😅

[@LuigiTheMetal64]

2:46:23 Overworld Ability effects bring in new and fun ways of getting the wild Pokémon you would want. Too bad that is gone from SV.

[@ntmaproductions]

true, love magnet pull, strong ability

[@LuigiTheMetal64]

@@ntmaproductions Synchro is the best in Nature hunting when having any neutral Nature. You can get Ralts from Route 102, which is early before Tsutsuji/Roxanne. Neiti/Natu is found at the Safari Zone, which is later.

[@SirRedshadow92]

As flawed as the game is i find it amazing. One nick pick on the story i wish they would have done would be to have Kyorge go to Mt Chimney and try to flood the land while Groudon would go to sea to try to raise the land. Seeing these effects would have been amazing to change to layout of the land while its at it (flooding the land or drying the sea forcing you to change your tactics to travel.) In emerald it would have been nice to see Rayquaza appear in the middle of the map to stop them both.

[@MadSirKing]

Oh wow you still make these. Good day

[@ntmaproductions]

They come out as fast as I can make em :)

[@Y0sh1no5am]

Im right now try build a team of zigzagoon and while I grind them up a shiny Ralts showed up. 😀

[@ntmaproductions]

wow! great find. I talk about my shinies at some point in the video 😅

[@StarsAndSticks]

Good work here man. I liked this a lot more than FR LG. That vid felt a bit too complainy to me.

[@tommymaxey2665]

A 3 hour review of RSE, hell yeah. I grew up on leaf green but played sapphire when i was like 11 or 12. I love all the gen 3 gba games. On that sapphire game i grinded out a lvl 100 salamance by going through the elite 4 like 50 times. I also found a shiny lairon while grinding before the elite 4. I wish i could of caught it but it used roar and crushed my dreams. I picked up a copy of Emerald about 3 years ago, and i have a soild 150 hours in the game. I've gotten a full hoenn living dex, and with my other copy of Emerald, i got all the johto starters. Ive tried the battle frontier and man is that hard. The game RNG works against you in every little way. So far my team is an EV trained metagross and dragonite with pretty crappy IV because you can't control that in these games without that rng manipulation, which im too stupid to understand. And then i got my salamance from my sapphire copy. Im thinking about adding a swampert to my team, but im trying to find one with good iv and go through that terrible process of training it. Overall i still think the look of the gen 3 games is the best. Gen 4 and 5 look good, but everything looks to small or to big. The gab games had everything look right. I hope we get them on NSO but knowing the pokemon company that will never happen

[@ntmaproductions]

Can't go wrong with Swampert, my man fears nothing and has the bulk to back him up, plus some crazy moves for this gen. The batlte frontier is quite hellish in this game, as is the grind 😅

[@ntmaproductions]

They had the GB/GBC game on 3DS how we haven’t gotten any form of switch release seems crazy to me for the GBA games. Nintendo and Pokemon company need to work something out since that would sell tens of thousands of switch online premium subscriptions…

[@petertilton7004]

I imagine next up will be Diamond, Pearl, Platinum and the Diamond and Pearl remakes.

[@ntmaproductions]

After ORAS that is next up 👍👍

[@petertilton7004]

@@ntmaproductions Awesome. Thanks. Also I think you forgot to mention one other thing about route 113. The Glass Workshop. You get a Soot Sack from the boss there which is used to gather that volcanic ash at route 113 which can be used to craft various items, including a flute that makes a pokemon that is infatuated come to it's senses.

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

The dude in rusturf tunnel wanted to see Wally’s cousin, his somewhat long distance girlfriend

[@cameraguygimmick4446]

amazing video man

[@ntmaproductions]

oras tomorrow ;p

[@EricWalkerUk]

2:45:10 Nah, the gym teams were far more competitive in Yellow 😂 Blaine and Giovanni's teams alone already set Yellow as leagues better than Blue/Red Seriously though, awesome video - I've been looking forward to watching this and love it. That Unova joke killed me 😅🤣

[@ntmaproductions]

Okay, some of the Yellow teams are decent but look what they did to poor Koga 😭😭😭

[@EricWalkerUk]

@@ntmaproductions true his team was very questionable - aside from his ace. Level 50 Venomoth decimated my teams when I was a kid and his Weezing in Red never gave me the same issues (good old selfdestruct 😂) Great video though man, honestly love it and looking forward to the next one

[@ntmaproductions]

@@EricWalkerUk I appreciate it! ORAS and Colosseum are both in some stage of production 😅

[@EricWalkerUk]

@@ntmaproductions looking forward to those, especially Colosseum

[@-Down-D-Stairs-]

Still my favorite Generation of Pokémon. Followed by Generation 4.

[@otto2280]

we're so back

[@CasualVideoGamer]

"Dustox is a do nothing Pokemon." My friend, Dustox defeated Norman's Slaking in Emerald without taking any hits.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@CasualVideoGamer So can any Pokemon with protect, that doesn't save Dustox 😭

[@CasualVideoGamer]

@@ntmaproductions It was good enough for me. Not too many can learn protect naturally (I may be wrong here). Protect, Toxic, Protect, Swagger, Protect, Flash, Protect, Silver Wind after decreasing its accuracy. Don't need to use useful TMs and save them for other derps that appear later on.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@CasualVideoGamer it's not a unique trait, but I think it learns it far earlier than most stuff. It's not that it's unusable but like a lot of early route bugs/birds/mammals throughout the series it's designed to evolve fast as an evolution tutorial, be fairly good early on, and fall off hard statistically at the midway point where even the second stages of most starters started to out big number it. The joy of Pokemon though is making shitmons works with creativity though, I've certainly used "bad" and limited Pokemon in my time because they're interesting :)

[@NotoriousMAX]

00:54:40 what a magical sentence

[@HexDominator]

Awesome video!

[@ntmaproductions]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@CasualCade]

FINALLY HERE ON A VIDEO DROP!

[@jprec5174]

Gen 3 is the moment I and many checked out of pokemon. It felt like a step back in many ways compared to gen 2, esp with respect to the scope of the world and the loss of immersive mechanics like day and night for an example. Reducing the amount of possible pokemon and not making trading between the previous gens possible it felt like a cash grab despite the improved battle system.

[@ntmaproductions]

I think that may a bit radical even for me but i respect it

[@jprec5174]

@@ntmaproductions i mean pokemon is bad now. Squandered potential. The only thing that ive enjoyed of it recently are fan-made rom hacks.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@jprec5174 no denying it's bad now and that elements of RSE established some of those reccuring flaws but I'm not gonna draw a straight line from RSE to XY

[@wedding2710]

I agree completely. I was born in 1994 and I played Silver and Crystal to the point of obsession, and it's still a beloved game to me. When Ruby and Sapphire came out, I was unimpressed by the removal of some of the most interesting and immersive features, and witb how much worse the music sounded on the GBA (low quality instrument soundfonts and nearly every single song is just TRUMPETS) I just didn't enjoy the experience. I came back during Black & White and have since played all generations and RSE still seems kind of dull to me.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@wedding2710 this is closer to my experience, yeah

[@highwaystar4518]

Where can i download Riphire Version?

[@PhantoRoyce]

0:49 isn’t it weird that these aren’t used as attack animations in the game? I think this looks like a way cooler flame thrower.

[@Corvilux52]

Something about Gen 3 that sucks is that even with its flaws, it’s still amazing. But the one thing that makes it hard for me to go back to is the Physical/Special Split in later games. Once you see how versatile one simple mechanic change made so many Pokémon, it’s hard to go to Gen 3 and feel so boxed in and forced into using a specific team with these certain moves being mandatory.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Corvilux52 lol yeah, the p/s split really marks the point where Pokemon design, even retroactive, began to flourish in interesting new ways and make things way more fun

[@TastySnax12]

Been waiting for this one 👀

[@tonobaker601]

1:33:31 audio mastering error. Ps. I enjoy how the slaking evolution is just a metaphor of fatherhood

[@dropygaming]

gen 3 is my first pokemon game

[@CopingContinuous]

I so disagree with most of your judgement of the hoenn and Gen 3 overall designs. They were the last games I played as a kid, I love them for many of the exact reasons you dislike parts of it, but this video was so good still, thank you for it

[@ntmaproductions]

@@CopingContinuous I love Hoenn despite my irritations, they were huge childhood games for me, but I've always been a Johtobabby at heart

[@CopingContinuous]

@@ntmaproductions yes I am also a Johto baby at heart too

[@MrHotquote]

They should call them Pokemon Horn, Trumpet and Tuba Version

[@GoonieLord]

A few months back I wanted to see what my Analogue Pocket and my Everdrive Mini could do. I discovered ROMs and was able to play gen 3 for the first time in a long time

[@ntmaproductions]

hell yea!

[@oneautumnleaff2119]

Its wild how you mention all the issues in the first 3 gens and i NEVER had any complaints or struggles, pokemon was a cake walk i mean jfc just teach something surf and that alone solos 99% of the game, i soloed yellow and red with Charizard, my gator boi in gen 2, and swampert. Now i did start to use legendaries obviously... who didnt? But i legit just used my starters to solo bc it was easier to just level 1 mon.

[@ntmaproductions]

Damn tootin

[@ntmaproductions]

that's the most boring way ypu could possibly play

[@ryanirl2398]

You bet your ass I listened too that entire opening theme.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@ryanirl2398 There's quite a few people who get angry about that being there 😅

[@ryanirl2398]

@@ntmaproductions that's like absolutely peak to get you into the game an mood i appreciate it.

[@astral_haze]

honestly, in the pokemon universe living indefinitely on the ocean probably isn't as hard. i don't know if the games keep the whole "water pokemon water isn't drinkable" thing, but... you also have fire and electric moves, for example, which will easily let you distill seawater. and even if water pokemons water isn't directly drinkable, the fact that it doesn't cause horrible environment damage on a constant basis suggests that it is completely harmless to plants and has no ill effects on crops. and i believe the berry master in this game mentions pokemon waste can be made into fertiliser, which i would assume would apply as well to human waste. and if not, im sure there's some way to use some of the magical powers of pokemon to process/dispose of it. really, id be more concerned about a storm bashing the houses together/into those big rock walls (although those may not canonically exist... it may just be a game contrivance)

[@danielchristensen3657]

Badass vid bro

[@ntmaproductions]

😎😎

[@MACandCHEEZWIZ1]

Another notch against Ruby ties into Solrock and Lunatone, and how they structured the Pokédex. In both games, you can find one Sun Stone and one Moon Stone through regular gameplay. You can get more from wild Solrock and Lunatone, though your chances are slim. Problem is, there is only one Sun Stone evolution in the whole game, Bellossom, while there are two Moon Stone evolutions, Wigglytuff and Delcatty. Because of this oversight, Ruby technically can only get 179/200 Pokémon without trading compared to Sapphire's 180/200. Meanwhile, Red and Green, Gold and Silver, and Diamond and Pearl are equal. Speaking of trading, because Ditto wasn't intended to be usable until FRLG 15 months later, breeding takes a massive hit. Think of Pokémon you might want to breed so you can trade to a friend. Maybe a starter, an endgame Pokémon like Beldum, or a rare version-exclusive like Solrock/Lunatune. Well without Ditto, gender unknown Pokémon can't breed, and the species of the egg is based on the female unless that's what Ditto is replacing. So all those Pokémon that are male 7/8 of the time like the starters or fossils? You're SOL 87.5% of the time. What makes this even more frustrating is Colosseum, which was designed to allow the player to transfer a good number of missing Gen II Pokémon to Ruby and Sapphire, released one year after. When you consider that Shadow Pokémon have a randomized gender and a number of them are already partially evolved like the Johto starters or Tyranitar, you realize if you wanted to breed them to obtain their lower stages, you have to soft-reset in Colosseum to make sure they're female. Then there's Shadow Hitmontop which is male only and can't breed, Espeon and Umbreon which the game forces to be male, and even the e-Reader Shadow Scizor which they forced to be male because they REALLY didn't want you to obtain even one unavailable Gen I Pokémon until FRLG.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@MACandCHEEZWIZ1 I bring both of these up at different points but yeah, there's a reason Ditto hasn't missed a game since, and the games have given an increasing amount of methods to obtain stones (also the mess of getting stones in GS), because as it turns out its horribly annoying to limit it to this extent 😅

[@MACandCHEEZWIZ1]

@@ntmaproductions Whoops, I had only just gotten to the Emerald section so I thought I was safe.

[@OGKill]

Ludisolo. Needs rain dish ability, Ev trained in special defense, hp, and speed, Then given leftovers. Rain Dance, Double Team, Giga Drain, & Surf. Use RD or DT depending on the pokemon, then use the opposite the next turn, leftover and rain dance give health back if you get touched, then spam double team and use Giga drain if you need health, eventually you become immortal and can surf everything to oblivion. In doubles you can make Ludi Ludicrously Strong. He doesn’t need to use rain dance or even better… Get you a Ninjask, speed iv and ev make it the fastest Pokemon in the game. Spam the fuck outta double team till it’s got maxed speed. It’s other Evo has wonder guard as its ability so it’s only hit by super effective moves. Use baton pass at max speed and it gives all the stats to whoever you switch too making them completely untouchable. Have these two out at the same time and the opponents have to focus one and get fucked by the other or just be fucked by both. Get two more straight tanks and baton pass to one if they try to hit the ninjask or shedinja. Say you don’t teach Ludi dt and instead leech seed, swap to an untouchable Ludi and seed em, you get Healed by Rain, Seed, Lefties, And can use Giga if needed, also Surf is stronger in the rain making an Untouchable God of Water of infinite health

[@OGKill]

The Ninja can also learn a move that gets stronger every time you use it so if he’s untouchable and you spam that attack you can easily start to solo with just him. Baton passing the maxed stats is the best tho because whoever you swap to can’t be hit and if they are chances of it being a 1HKO is rare so they’d have to be extremely lucky to kill or even get a second and final blow in.

[@JacobOman-qb1lm]

Gen 3 was the peak

[@pokemontrainerthink9045]

Great vid, couple mistakes I noticed that don't take away from your video but you got the feebas method wrong, you mentioned it's 4 spots that change daily which is how it works in the sinnoh games, in the hoenn games its set in stone what squares they spawn based on your ID or SID I think it's 6 squares in hoenn but they don't change daily. Also Flannery's grandfather left the gym to her not her father who is Kabu in sword and shield lol

[@ntmaproductions]

DANG. You're right. Feebas' whole thing is such a mess and I know so much that I get crossed wires. Never noticed the Kabu connection, pretty clever.

[@pokemontrainerthink9045]

@@ntmaproductions hey hey I'm the same, I'm so engrossed in pokemon facts that sometimes I mix them up, usually what game something was updated..like I could've sworn the repel pop up was introduced in BW but it was BW2

[@ntmaproductions]

@@pokemontrainerthink9045 I think I pretty specifically imply that Pelipper got Drizzle as a HA in this video. It does not.

[@pokemontrainerthink9045]

@@ntmaproductions eh oh well haha I subbed anyway started on the rby retrospective today

[@ntmaproductions]

@@pokemontrainerthink9045 I hope you enjoy it :) ORAS is well into production and should be out soon, and the playlist has RBY and their remakes and GSC and their remakes (plus a few bonuses)

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

Good video

[@ntmaproductions]

🙏

[@lollertoaster]

Pickup is not a terrible game design. Single player games don't need to be balanced and broken combos make a game more fun not less fun. Just look at Morrowind for the best example of this.

[@ntmaproductions]

to some extent, maybe, but morrowind requires a ton of work and knowledge to reach that point. nobody accidentally breaks morrowind 4 minutes in, you need to know how broken fortify intelligence is and know your way around spellcrafting and enchanting. zigzagoon is very probably the first pokemon you'll get and even if you don't zigmaxx just having one heavily breaks the game. i don't doubt it was meant to be good as an intro to abilities but it also seems like gamefreak forgot how often you battle.

[@GoldenSunAlex]

Just started and I hear 'questionable story' which means a 99% chance that this video isn't going to touch on how the story is a case of cultural clash, and it makes complete sense if you're Japanese, or know anything about the Isakaya Bay Project. Edit: A bit further in, and no NPC says IVs can be passed down through breeding because...They can't. That feature wasn't added till later. More edit: Dragon Claw is mentioned as a physical move, when it's still special at this point, and Emeralds pickup is actually much better than ruby and sapphires as soon as you hit lv. 41. Focus Sash also doesn't exist in gen 3. You also detailed the gen 4 mechanics for locating feebas rather than the gen 3 ones. Your take on the Regis was...Interesting, considering regice was considered a top-tier staple back in gen 3. Last edit: Doubles wasn't the official competative format till gen 4 onwards, before that it was singles. You mention Mew never really had a gen 1 release and was absent in gen 2 entirely. Neither is true. In addition, you seem to think that the battle frontier has more rng than it actually does. Aside from the usual random pokemon you face, the palace has no RNG at all, the factory doesn't give you weak pokemon randomly-it gives you stronger ones the more you trade, and the pyramids only rng is map layout (and the maps are simple enough it's not really an issue). Overall, it was a good review, and kudos for doing a 3 hour one, however there were quite a few things wrong. 8/10.

[@ntmaproductions]

it's based on real thing so it's good is a very weak defense when the story is such a titanic mess. plenty of allegories come out terrible. you right on the egg thing, I make mistakes and the endless layers of mechanical revisuuons can be a lot to track, doesn't change the fact that breeding is and remains bizarrely obtuse until relatively recently

[@GoldenSunAlex]

@@ntmaproductions While true, it would still be a good allegory if you're Japanese. The main issue western fans have with the story is they simply don't understand the references.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@GoldenSunAlex Perhaps, although I think my issue is less the idea of the story, in fact the rival teams setup is relatively neat, and perhaps in context of the allegory it works, but the two sides hit such exaggerated points that it becomes difficult to take seriously even in the proper context, for the most part

[@GoldenSunAlex]

@@ntmaproductions I think that was the point. They were representing the strawman arguments constantly presnted in the Isakaya project.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@GoldenSunAlex Fair enough, honestly