Sandshrew is the Best Pokemon in a format where you try to lose. Here's Why.

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Ай бұрын

The Loser's Game
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@Almond19912 Ай бұрын

Even in the intentionally losing category, Calyrex-S is too OP

@wienerrrrrrrrrrr Ай бұрын

god i hate that stupid horse

@leaDR356 Ай бұрын

Just goes to show how strong the Horse council members are

@misalignedmisanthropist Ай бұрын

@@leaDR356Calyrex-S is a fraud, he can't even learn High Horsepower

@sidhaarthnair8368 Ай бұрын

@@leaDR356he doesn't learn High horsepower so should he be considered in horse council?

@RoninofCrimsonMaple Ай бұрын

I still stand by that Grim Neigh is close enough to maintain its status as a horse.@@sidhaarthnair8368

@randomnessrules4971 Ай бұрын

"Should I make this weird metagame?" "Sure, knock yourself out."

@Laezar1 Ай бұрын

nice

@firemanking3271 29 күн бұрын

This comment is so good I could faint

@cranapple3367 29 күн бұрын

Familyguyhaha.mp4

@enigwa3286 28 күн бұрын

LOL it's hilarious to see this. I'm Adrian Marin, the creator of 'Suicide Cup' (later called The Loser's Game). I'm proud to have created such a cursed metagame 😂

@isaachiltyhilty6804 27 күн бұрын

@@enigwa3286 not trying to be that guy but how are we supposed to believe you?

@essentures Ай бұрын

So I was not bad at Pokémon, I was just playing the wrong format

@ioioi_prx4639 Ай бұрын

I'd be a millionaire if I got 100$ after losing

@nellewoodruff6337 Ай бұрын

@@essentures Cue that one gen 5 preschooler quote about changing perspective

@tonydai782 27 күн бұрын

@@ioioi_prx4639 But then everyone else would just start losing more than you, so you’d still end up broke.

@sunny3545 27 күн бұрын

You'd still lose (by winning)

@CM_684 25 күн бұрын

@@nellewoodruff6337 change your perspective and the reality changes.

@werh227 Ай бұрын

Playing Loser's Game to feel like I'm winning by not using loser strategies and oneshotting everything

@isaacsimpson8098 Ай бұрын

It would be pretty fun to see a bottom ladder full of people just doing this lol, playing losers game but both trying to win

@woomyboy98 Ай бұрын

@@isaacsimpson8098 technically they would be the true losers by losing at winning by winning which is losing

@isaacsimpson8098 Ай бұрын

@@woomyboy98 yes

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Ай бұрын

This Broke: Playing Loser's Game to lose, thus winning Woke: Playing Loser's game to win, thus losing Bespoke: Ignoring the conditions of Losers game, and playing it to boost your ego or pull off combos that are too inconsistent to use otherwise, but really cool to pull off Ascended: Funbro in Loser's Game

@jrodd13 29 күн бұрын

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Funbro in losers game is just flat out evil 😂

@JaxOf7 29 күн бұрын

"I fainted, making me the victor." "I must apologize for Sandshrew-Alola. He is an idiot. We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke."

@TheInfiniteAmo 27 күн бұрын

Quote that film, if you're so great!

@miniyodadude6604 26 күн бұрын

@@TheInfiniteAmoKung pow enter the fist

@Gonshotbarz 19 күн бұрын

Well you have to consider this freezaifaggot considers random battles as competitive just off the fact it has high traffic.. when it's just a bunch of randoms and scrubs not much better than him queuing constantly rolling the dice and hoping the odds are stacked enough against their opponent to make them feel as if they've done something skillful or accomplishment worthy. Way too insecure and full of themselves to teambuild and go thru trial and error gotta just pretend being given under leveled pokemon with weird useless sets is peak competitive play...

@nileprimewastaken 17 күн бұрын

"not only is he a moron, he's the product of the greatest minds of a generation working together explicitly to create the stupidest moron to ever exist"

@MezzoForte4 8 күн бұрын

Betty approves. 👍

@plhbuschannel Ай бұрын

Fun Fact: In gen 7, Skill Swap Magic Guard is actually banned because people start running offensive alakazam to kill 5 pokemon and then skill swap magic guard and the opponent literally cannot die with heal pulse support

@olivergro7105 Ай бұрын

Well shouldn't they have banned recycle leppa berry instead? :I

@irakyl Ай бұрын

The fact that you straight up win if you stop just 1 of your opponent's pokemon from dying is what makes this so interesting, for the tourney I was trying to see if I could make it an actual legit playstyle like steel beam and court change but it's too inconsistent. Realizing that you can intentionally faint their problematic pokemon so the final one is exploitable was a eureka moment, but it still wasn't enough.

@FurryCombatWombat Ай бұрын

Fun fact: as the guy in the video that did this strat, it does *not* stop the hp cut from Curse :/

@ViciadoSocialempires Ай бұрын

LMAO

@The_Red_Scare 29 күн бұрын

What if the opponent had something like Mold Breaker which ignored abilities? Would Mold Breaker on the Alakazam prevent Magic Guard from forcing the opponent to live? And yes, I know they could just switch pokemon, but I'm asking if receiving an ability that ignores other abilities would override the strat if you couldn't switch pokemon for whatever reason.

@VerbalLearning 29 күн бұрын

When you try to escape Calyrex Shadowrider by playing The Loser's Game. Calyrex Shadowrider: Nah i'd lose.

@muishaggyblanco2349 Ай бұрын

Finally… black sludge bisharp is its optimal set

@AMereFool 29 күн бұрын

The CTC foresight be shiesty.

@chavonjames8941 28 күн бұрын

Sticky Barb *Our battle WILL BE LEGENDARY!*

@500werewolf Ай бұрын

Praise the almighty Calyrex-S! Even when it loses, it still wins.

@PatrickArcato 29 күн бұрын

I really can't like that pokemon, first it doesn't even look like one, second it's designed by 12 year old stoner, way too strong

@SeaOfPixels 28 күн бұрын

@@PatrickArcato What seems to be happening is that Gamefreak makes sure to make the latest generation's main important Pokemon blatantly overpowered, so that they stand out in the generation. Sometimes they'll nerf them the next generation so that they don't overshadow the new important Pokemon (Zacian). Seems like they're trying to avoid another Reshiram/Zekrom situation?

@500werewolf 28 күн бұрын

@PatrickArcato Agreed, and the fact that the overpowered DLC 'mons from Sword & Shield didn't get nerfed is extremely concerning for where their priorities lie. (Clearly, it's money over game balance.)

@RiderOfPeppers 19 күн бұрын

@@SeaOfPixelswhat happened with reshiramand zekrom?

@SeaOfPixels 19 күн бұрын

@@RiderOfPeppers Neither were very good in their debut generation, and are even worse now.

@brunoemf90 Ай бұрын

I was waiting to hear Freezai do an 180 on his catchphrase “People play to win” when talking about tiers

@meadnex331 29 күн бұрын

Hey freeze sauce, ai here. People play to win...but what if they didn't?

@candlecord 28 күн бұрын

@@meadnex331 *synth sound followed by drum beat*

@fabian6087 29 күн бұрын

The stealth rock strategy should be called 'Self-Rock'.

@aldrichunfaithful3589 Ай бұрын

a few ppl here were talking about endless battles, and it gave me a funny idea for a format which would basically be a race to trigger an endless battle. whoever gets their opponent stuck first wins

@GGreenHeart Ай бұрын

This would be such a blast!! Shame it would be literally impossible to build a computer to recognize a win 😅 But human refs in a tournament could work!

@aldrichunfaithful3589 Ай бұрын

@@GGreenHeart i don't think it's too hard tbh. every endless trapper has to have recycle, heal pulse and a leppa berry, so once you get it going a computer could probably recognise that. the only cringe part would be people denying the loss with timer stall which already happens lol. also now that i'm thinking about it all the trappers would have to click a very telegraphed move that you'd switch out of to trap you, so the game would likely be about killing 5 mons to trap the last which would be pretty boring

@FlygonkingVGC 18 күн бұрын

Everyone would just run alolan exxeguttor with leppa berry and sunny day

@aedd3307 13 күн бұрын

@@aldrichunfaithful3589trying to solve the halting problem

@Aaa-vp6ug 8 күн бұрын

@@aldrichunfaithful3589make it so there’s a turn timer akin to speed chess, if you take too long, you lose by default.

@zdelrod829 Ай бұрын

Heal Pulse is insane in this format. Also, I didn't know Perish Song could be Baton Passed.

@firewall5189 Ай бұрын

pokerogue taught me the hard way 😔

@sometijng 29 күн бұрын

@@firewall5189 my reaction when that mf pulls out a spiritomb against my gator (its totover):

@zaleww5824 29 күн бұрын

All changes except status passes to pokemon

@vyor8837 25 күн бұрын

I'm surprised no one used Trick with Leftovers to disrupt things

@sup3760 Ай бұрын

the format where tera ice is strong is the one where you want to lose, thats pretty funny

@PotatoPrem 29 күн бұрын

tera ice is strong in normal format too bozo. Bolt-beam regieleki, jolteon, etc

@jebalitabb8228 28 күн бұрын

@@PotatoPremno one uses those pokemon tho lmfao

@twilightsilver6230 28 күн бұрын

@jebalitabb8228 a lot of pokemon run Tera Ice offensively in OU, the main examples being Kyurem and Weavile. UU pokemon can run them as well, for example Sandy Shocks, Mamoswine, and famously the Tera Ice Tera Blast Hydrapple Stall that was common on the OU ladder a few months ago.

@Gonshotbarz 19 күн бұрын

@razorshell3049 Ай бұрын

"Loser's Game" nah nah nah the OG Name is the "Suicide Cup".

@VixstraLarge Ай бұрын

Ah yes, the chalice laced with cyanide

@zdelrod829 Ай бұрын

@@VixstraLargeBoeing Whistleblower Bash.

@lorekeeper685 Ай бұрын

@@zdelrod829 Like the guy from enumclaw?

@zdelrod829 Ай бұрын

@@lorekeeper685 not that one. The one that was supposed to testify.

@lorekeeper685 Ай бұрын

@@zdelrod829 you mean the recent two

@SmugLookingBarrel Ай бұрын

I remember trying to make a team around intentionally forcing the Endless Battle Clause game loss, where I would use Block, Fling a Leppa Berry and then Recycle it. Was disappointed when that didn't win me the game.

@Emilia-_. Ай бұрын

what is endless battle clause?

@electrolapse7098 Ай бұрын

@@Emilia-_.Endless battle clause is a clause that bans people from using specific moves that can create an endless battle, like using leppa Berry, fling and recycle. The idea of that is that nobody will run out of pp because the leppa berry will activate. It’s kind of hard to explain in one comment, but Freezai has a good video on it

@Skullhawk13 Ай бұрын

@@electrolapse7098why don’t they just ban leppa berry straight up?

@rainbowthedragoncat6768 29 күн бұрын

@@Skullhawk13 bc you might want to use it for non endless battle purposes

@Skullhawk13 29 күн бұрын

@@rainbowthedragoncat6768 any examples?

@michabaron4129 Ай бұрын

I like the deep dive into an obscure metagame and it was fun trying to come up with my own ideas about the format before learning the truth (i figured out SR court swap yay) but it would he nice to hear a smidge more about the final tournament match than "one guy lost other didnt" lol

@austinish 27 күн бұрын

I imagine he didn't elaborate because the format seems a bit boring outside of the concept. The meta strategy says it all: you spam steel beam. The actual strategic bits were explained, but the rest was "player one clicked steel beam, player two clicked switch" for the majority of the battle. Doesn't seem like there's all that much to explain.

@Gonshotbarz 19 күн бұрын

@zachpro5475 Ай бұрын

Funny uploaded after the meta game was unlisted for latter

@cryochick9044 Ай бұрын

Im surprised torment isn't used. They wanna steel beam spam? They can't use it twice in a row

@underrated1524 29 күн бұрын

Too slow

@FriendlyNeighborhoodLamia 12 күн бұрын

It’s fascinating that a niche metagame like losing on purpose can have such depth

@gengarisnotinsmash... Ай бұрын

Obligatory "Finally, a format I'm good at!" comment.

@JavierGomez-px8xh Ай бұрын

Black sludge bisharp is about to cook↕️↔️

@inferno7892 29 күн бұрын

It was truly ahead of its time

@tomorchard6660 29 күн бұрын

Agency intelligence knew

@biospark4758 28 күн бұрын

I wonder if Pain Split would have a niche here. Run disruption tactics while your opponent is lowering their own HP and then equalize both your health bars

@Gonshotbarz 19 күн бұрын

@FlygonkingVGC 18 күн бұрын

A great way to block steel beam is grassy terrain because they need to do one more steel beam so u can use one more alolan vulpix thanks wood hammer toxic orb grookey

@warmwater9509 Ай бұрын

hear me out on a new tournament format: loser's game, expect that every other battle in the tournament, including the finals, is won by winning, ie making the opponent lose all 6 pokemon. It would be interesting to see teambuilding that's both good at fainting and killing

@nickg5341 7 күн бұрын

bro is cooking with gas

@gregorymirabella1423 29 күн бұрын

I thought Sandshrew only became steel type after it evolved, I guess I had it mixed up with Vulpix.

@davidknopp1208 Ай бұрын

OGs remember when it was called Suicide Cup

@Iris_Descent 25 күн бұрын

10:39 Oh, this is actually implemented wrong here. Steel Beam doesn't do any damage to the user if the move fails due to there being no target.

@Generichoneydew Ай бұрын

"comment on the video too, thats an order" ON IT BOSS

@raywt 29 күн бұрын

aww alolan sandshrew is one of my favorite pokemon.. i'm so proud seeing it be the best, even if it's just the best at being the worst

@TheRageBaiter Ай бұрын

It sucks that this is a challengeable OM and not an other metagame with a ladder

@DIOderent 12 күн бұрын

i just found out about it this year, but it used to have a ladder. not sure when they got rid of the ladder for it though

@noxiousroxie 29 күн бұрын

I didn’t expect the perish song + Baton LOL

@kemosonicfan123lbp Ай бұрын

This is like that one chess variant except there's enough layers to it that it's not solved

@Edujs23 Ай бұрын

My mental cook was using Cinderace, a stealth rock mon, and 4 pokémon 4x weak to rock The stealth rock mon uses it, Cinder court change it, and then you just switch your mons arround The rock mon would need a way to ko itself tho

@sarraceniafell Ай бұрын

found the one who didnt finish the video before commenting

$@ohandthefracking$

@ohandthefracking Ай бұрын

@@sarraceniafell LMFAO GAG THEM FOR ME

@leandro-eo7bd Ай бұрын

watch the vid until the end

@nellewoodruff6337 Ай бұрын

My mental cook is rocky helmet, trick, contact multihit turbo. Also could pain split be good?

@tardigrade8019 Ай бұрын

@@nellewoodruff6337I also feel like truck leftovers could do something

@almightymudkip3856 Ай бұрын

Can’t wait to try Jumpkick recoil strats

@nowelltheowl5619 25 күн бұрын

Even when the objective is to lose, Stealth Rocks finds a way to be a core strategy.

@jpmac1119 Ай бұрын

Playing in this was such a blast! Hope for more weird gimmick events like this in the future

@axr1798 Ай бұрын

At first I thought that the whole format was going to be about gholdengo and damp pokemon like golduck, but there's a surprising amount of depth, this could actually be an official ruleset.

@thecornmaker849 Ай бұрын

You love to see electrode winning

@therealx2907 29 күн бұрын

This format is just a full on comedy show on my little friend Sandshrew-A

@diduoup7407 26 күн бұрын

Pretty proud of myself for thinking about the stealth rock court change beford you mentioned it

@NagKai_G Ай бұрын

It was fun playing this tournament and format. I didn't even think about black sludge strats, so i lost on the second game, but i used a stealth rocks comp (although it was very poorly made as i created the team minutes before the tournament) with shadow tag gothita to lock a mon that couldn't easily die by itself after i set up stealth rocks and heal pulse + taunt till gothita dies. Very poorly explained but at least i won 2/3 games (1 win in tournament and another in post tournament game)

@Gonshotbarz 19 күн бұрын

@agisuru 28 күн бұрын

I'd like to point out that Knock Off's item removal is still relevant in this meta, and Tera Ghost, in addition to the curse thing, has the more niche interaction of making you weak to Knock Off, potentially getting you KOd faster.

@blueice7906 27 күн бұрын

This is the single most funny pokemon video and I’m in suprised I never heard

@luislaracuente Ай бұрын

This is fun and creative!

@nickhelmer 29 күн бұрын

Hi Jump Kick seems like the anti Calyrex tech. Also I imagine Trick + Leftovers would be interesting countermeta

@Ufo3208_ Ай бұрын

Dude I had so much fun in this tournament, but sadly lost to the guy who ended up winning the whole thing by me throwing a little bit 😅

@LRXC1 25 күн бұрын

Great video!

@Yas-gu1pj Ай бұрын

İ feel like this video should have been a freezai live video

@et34t34fdf Ай бұрын

This is hilarious.

@slushbucket707 Ай бұрын

finally a metagame where my goat Klefki is good

@meguy7735 Ай бұрын

This is awesome

@elvenatheart982 12 күн бұрын

Bro this is super funny😂

@Undergroundrising-c4j 29 күн бұрын

Black sludge sheninja is peak Paul mentality.

@emilygordbort7300 Ай бұрын

I was instructed by Freezai's discord to watch and comment

@majorhoolahan 29 күн бұрын

I never thought I'd hear about a metagame so fundamentally hilarious.

@Gonshotbarz 19 күн бұрын

@sagacious03 Ай бұрын

Another neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading! Although, this meta sounds a little centralized, no?

@zEr-ne5ri Ай бұрын

When first hearing in this intro I thought I was having a stroke.

@Siinory Ай бұрын

FINALLY!! A category for me! 8D

@Gonshotbarz 19 күн бұрын

Nah this is freezais for sure. You and anyone else are way beyond winners over this scrub lord

@TTLunar Ай бұрын

Yo waddup here for support

@untossablesalad4423 28 күн бұрын

Could you make a playlist with videos of yours that are like this? :)

@leaDR356 Ай бұрын

My awful plays will make me win (lose) in this game too 💀

@user-yu8vu9xu5n Ай бұрын

great video

@Flygoniaks 29 күн бұрын

For those who just want the answer to the title: Alolan Sandshrew is so good in this format because it has the lowest Special Attack of any Pokémon that can learn Steel Beam. Since Steel Beam does recoil damage equal to half the user's max HP, it's a staple in this format, and Sandshrew can ensure that you don't kill your opponents faster than yourself.

@byrontheusurper6505 27 күн бұрын

You can baton pass perish song!? That's CRAZY!

@FishGamingReal 29 күн бұрын

Cant wait for the day Freezai popularizes Balanced Hackmons and I can say I was there "before it was cool"

@VooshSpokesman 10 күн бұрын

Love from a Pchal and Vaush fan!

@justme14357 Ай бұрын

Sounds fun

@GeorgMaUlWurf 27 күн бұрын

the perish song baton pass lmao

@sloowbroo Ай бұрын

Me when Freezai tells me to comment on his video (its an order)

@DoggyP00 29 күн бұрын

baton passing perish song is so funny

@timskrobot4025 29 күн бұрын

I'm surprised I didn't hear about the move False Swipe or the Sticky Barb item. If you're forced to attack, false swipe would be a good option and Sticky Barb would be good if there are restrictions on items like Black Sludge.

@baumina1706 29 күн бұрын

if youre forced to attack, snore always fails (except for a few nice scenarios)

@PatJamma 26 күн бұрын

I would have lost horribly because my first thought was Dry Skin in the sun

@esrohm6460 29 күн бұрын

i wonder if you could make a stall team in this so that you can stall out your opponents ways to die and when they start to struggle is that recoil slower than whatever other method you use. or if we want to be funky try to get a last pokemon scenario and then get on that pokemon normalize while having a ghost team/terra ghost.

@gravityvertigo13579 Ай бұрын

Finally... The time of Sandshrew is at hand...

@Zorin1 29 күн бұрын

Still interesting to see the sweaty strats in a meme format

@dinoooooom 27 күн бұрын

On the topic of weird strats, would wonder skin be optimal in that format? Being able to mess with heal pulse/taunt acc could be intresting to watch. Venomoth isnt great, but it gets sleep powder, baton pass and disable, so maybe?

@Brandon_Hardie 29 күн бұрын

FINALLY A W FOR MY BOY ALOLAN SANDSHREW

@ashtonoak4370 Ай бұрын

id use a mons magic bounce to give my own side hazards

@lilfrogman0395 29 күн бұрын

I'm surprised pain split isn't used bc if you use it on a low hp mon you heal them while you drop. Especially if at full hp idk might be a sleeper pick

@LorgeDelta 28 күн бұрын

Nice video, but a slight error when talking about perish song. It's still a 4 turn strat if you count the turn it's used on, when the timer doesn't tick down. Even in your video the pokemon doesn't die until turn 4 in the top left corner at 2:22. It takes the same amount of turns as the struggle only Charizard, both fainted on Turn 4, therefore, both are 4 turn strats. Perish song may say "Perish in 3," but it doesn't tick down the turn it's used on, so it still takes 4 turns total.

@aquageist 27 күн бұрын

I imagine if self destructs were allowed, you'd have people using some Damp pokemon to counter it.

@E4439Qv5 27 күн бұрын

Quagsire meta is back...

@PrivateUser1667 29 күн бұрын

I have never heard Steel Beam so much in my Life

@analoghabits9217 Ай бұрын

another ruleset could be your opponent uses the team you bring

@FunniClapboard 29 күн бұрын

Electrode with self-destruct 💀

@byrontheusurper6505 27 күн бұрын

What an awesome format

@crazydov 28 күн бұрын

So cool

@Giga-lemesh 25 күн бұрын

Very interesting

@benjamincooper358 28 күн бұрын

Doesn’t work for Steel Beam but considering the amount of Chloroblast around, is Sap Sipper viable?

@kentern7518 8 күн бұрын

Finally, a category i can excel in

@ashross5860 29 күн бұрын

Kinda want to see a primary flying/grassy terrain combo being used to losing game equivalent of sand/hail chip

@Arcanine1995 Ай бұрын

'free' and 'doesn't cost anything' mean the same thing

@Blanktester685 Ай бұрын

incorrect

@ShinyCyndaquil3 Ай бұрын

@@Blanktester685please elaborate

@jqvy Ай бұрын

L take

@imapaincake2305 Ай бұрын

You have free space on your phone You have "doesn't cost anything" space in your phone. It wouldn't cost you anything to do more chores!! It would be free to you to do more chores!!

@ShinyCyndaquil3 Ай бұрын

@@imapaincake2305 I understand what you mean but in this context wouldn’t it just be a case of one word having multiple meanings.

@MetroNomicon777 21 күн бұрын

This is such a silly, yet interesting format.

@3liasBlue 26 күн бұрын

2:37 “fanum tax evader”

@vanesslifeygo Ай бұрын

it is just as difficult to intentional lose at rock paper scissors as it is to win. pokemon is rock paper scissors gone out of control. here we are again.

@Manpag 9 күн бұрын

Ironically, I use Alolan Sandshrew in the games. Why? 0 SpA IV, -SpA nature Sandshrew is one of the weakest users of Powder Snow, the weakest Ice-type move with a chance to freeze. I can spam it on wild Pokémon until they get frozen if I need to, while using Eviolite for extra bulk.