Pokemon Go Was Just The Beginning - Our Augmented Reality Future - Extra Credits

Is AR (Augmented Reality) the future of technology? Will this create a virtual utopia, giving us the ability to translate languages in front of our eyes and make better choices based on instant information? Or will it be taken advantage of? With the government and companies manipulating the world around us.
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[@levikkutllovcilorikkutllov1185]

Love youtube video

[@pressypoo3236]

How many Polish people you got in the team? I'll give you a dollar for each Polish person working on the show.

[@hansolowe19]

X-ray vision? How?

[@levikkutllovcilorikkutllov1185]

Love 💘 💜 love 💘 ❤

[@bobbymichealson798]

Are you planning to continue extra sci fi?

[@MatthewBofenkamp]

I’m a professional augmented reality developer, and one thing we’ve talked about at my company as another way for AR to go very wrong is the issue of transforming people in the user’s environment without consent. It’s easy to make AR that automatically transforms every person the user sees, but even with innocent intentions, this can be potentially dangerous. For example, my coworkers and I recently talked about an AR app someone else made that changes the face of everyone you see so they’re always smiling. It was probably made with wholesome intentions, but imagine someone was talking to you or acting in a way that made you uncomfortable or feel unsafe, but all that person could see was that you were smiling, even though you were not? As developers, we have a responsibility to think about how what we make could impact others, but inevitably not every developer will think of things like this.

[@Klaaism]

Smiling Man from Ghost in the Shell SAC

[@ecurewitz]

it's something society has to be very careful about

[@rickimaru915]

That’s definitely going in the dystopian fiction idea bank

[@smith22041]

@@Klaaism That was the Laughing Man.

[@RyuuKageDesu]

Taken further, I'm sure someone will make (or try to make) an app that uses the AR to cause everyone to look nude. You know..., for stage fright...

[@TierZoo]

I just want yugioh holograms man, this tech can't come soon enough

[@barend4285]

Yes please!! And magic the gathering😁

[@Quroe_]

@@barend4285 Imagine a Commander game.

[@Heightren]

Imagine if you could revive Yu GI oh with this

[@blaster915]

AMEN!!

[@WolfBoy-om6dw]

YES I WOULD LOVE THAT!

[@c0i9z]

One important reason that Google Glass didn't work isn't just looks, but because people just don't like having a camera constantly in their face. Also, there's a limitation in 'clear glass' AR, in that you simply can't project light in a way that blocks existing light. So everything you see has to be superimposed and translucent. The alternative is to be always looking at the world through a screen. That probably would be a tough sell.

[@CoralCopperHead]

We already look at the world through a pair of screens. Most of our display tech just emulates the Human Eyeball Mk. I

[@robd9413]

Futurama had an interesting - if deliberately odd - take on AR - the EyePhone. An AR device inserted in your eye. No Google Goggles hear. And, of course, people immediately wanting an upgrade as soon as they've got one fitted

[@starblaiz1986]

Happy 500th episode EC! I've been watching ever since the days you guys were on Escapist. Its been a wild ride ^-^

[@KaraanMalaastare]

Hoo boy, this is something I do in Shadowrun all the time! :D

[@nunyabusiness1232]

Congrats on 500 episodes!

[@ocean6828]

This is by far one of my favorite channels out there

[@oopsy444]

Been here since you guys started (3rd episode I think) congrats on your success and I hope you continue to grow.

[@echo_sans4239]

I can’t wait for AR the arrive into this world to increase the amazingness of games. Could you guys please possibly do a so you haven’t read episode on a book called feed it’s a kind of love story/tragedy and while I didn’t enjoy the slowness I was caught by the sadness of the story. by the way I enjoy watching all of your videos.

[@bravosierra2447]

Congratulations on your milestone 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@enxman7697]

Thank you for all your wonderfull videos! Keep going!

[@Readysetheal]

The biggest issue for me is not privacy or access to data - it's *who* gets to afford it. I can clearly imagine getting rejected during an interview because you can't afford AR, or even worse - coercing people living in poor or damaged areas into buying AR they can't afford to ignore the problems. What I'm trying to say is that AR is a tool, and currently we don't have a good record of giving these tools to the right people.

[@passerbycmc]

Even before AR, other examples of this is stuff like city infrastructure that is requiring smart phones and data to use, which is not ideal for a lot of people for a lot of reasons.

[@JediBearBob]

I don't think it's either. AR has always struck me as a fad that's only really interesting to tech bros and early adopters. Like 3D and VR it will struggle for relevance, as the technology remains expensive and useful or interesting only in niche scenarios and offputting and inconvenient the rest of the time.

[@BuxtonsWater]

VR hasn't been struggling for relevance. It's basically replaced 3D TV's and the like since it's a way better experience. Millions of VR headsets have been sold.

[@CoralCopperHead]

@@BuxtonsWater "It's basically replaced 3D TVs" So... something irrelevant replaced something irrelevant. What point are you trying to prove with this?

[@loganfish1015]

Thank you for making great content for this long.

[@whoeveriam0iam14222]

Advertising on your bedroom ceiling!! Can't wait to have more advertising everywhere

[@smurphy8881]

Wolf idea: ARG Larping. Rent a motel, scan the environment and modify. Equip the players with builds and skins. Imagine small local versions of this similar to a LAN party. Imagine a truly horrifying game of Call of Cthulhu played in this way. Imagine doing this at conventions of all kinds.

[@readysetgameover9977]

Cheers to the 500th episode and here’s to hope for 500 more.

[@scarredchild]

I remember when I was a kid and my dad was terrified of the internet. Twenty-plus years, I wonder how I'll feel about AR?

[@FuoChEsplode]

congrats!!! that's a big goal!

[@matthewbunting9890]

An interesting future is ahead of us all. Cya there tomorrow :)

[@thegamingwolf8892]

500 eps huh? This is great to hear

[@Scarletraven87]

How can you not have the founders here? 1:00

[@LexiLunarpaw]

2:04 IT WAS WALPOLE!!!

[@Bardic_Knowledge]

I think it'd be fun to have an AR headset that's just a DBZ scouter.

[@hashoomtube8807]

Congratulations 🥳

[@Ankiul1]

Remember reading ready player one I sure do. Mark Zuckerberg equals Nolan Sorrento.

[@HopeRock425]

Imagine if instead of going to a large open field to play football, in the future children play a full scale RPG game, it's pretender but on another level.

[@postjm9]

Scarlet Nexus has an interesting take on this, but probably missed the opportunity to make the issues more central.

[@CoralCopperHead]

Utopia or Dystopia? I take a third option: *_Irrelevant._*

[@thepavilion7625]

Can I own the hardware that the server-side calculations run on. Unless it is open-sourced, and/or being run on my own machine, I won't trust any of it.

[@Jremyisawsome1111]

Ma ma more A.R. ma ma more Ad space.

[@Sniperbear13]

seen an anime called Deh-noh Coil where they had AR glasses, and people wore them all the time; and that was back in 07. so you can say they have predicted the future.

[@passerbycmc]

I feel an other issue i have not seen talked about, is how it could shift peoples expectations. I am the type of person that is often trying to reduce the amount of stimulation i see, so would not want stuff constantly in my field of view and even with my phone i leave it on silent most of the time and just check every few hours if i get messages. But if AR becomes the norm i can see the expectation shifting to people expecting immediate responses to messages and generally people just not interacting with those that are physically around them in the way they used to.

[@jonnunn4196]

It's already the case that some people expect an instant response to text messages; some of my coworkers have been complaining that their wives / girlfriends doing that while they were at work ever since texting became popular.

[@kuhluhOG]

Another privacy problem: Only because you choose to not use e.g. Facebook's AR, doesn't mean, they won't be able to track you. Yes, you may not choose to use it, but what's with the person you just passed by on the street? Given enough of them over your day and you are trackable by companies you never interacted with on your own choosing. The technology to track you indirectly and deanonymize data already exists (we are way too unique in our own way to make the data NOT deanonymizable).

[@passerbycmc]

yeah even without face, we are getting to the point where its possibly to identify someone in a video based on how they walk.

[@CoralCopperHead]

You're acting like this isn't already a thing that's easily done by anyone with the motivation to do so.

[@jasepoag8930]

Welp, I think this is finally going to be my "old man doesn't understand technology" moment when it goes mainstream.

[@stevenn1940]

~10 years ago, AR and VR were getting about the same amount of attention. I was just out of highschool, and I was and remained super excited for VR, and I now own a valve index (a few others along the way). I've always understood the use and value of VR. Then, and now, I still cannot fathom any real usecase for these that actually justifies the AR tech. All the examples they gave were.. superfluous.

[@BuxtonsWater]

@@stevenn1940 How can't you see the uses? AR is essentially a replacement to the smartphone. Instead of looking at your phone to do stuff online you just use your AR device.

[@jonnunn4196]

I can understand how AR works ... but it's arrived too late for me; it's becoming increasing apparent that I really should get reading glasses or at least cheaters for reading text if I want to avoid eye strain ; AR (or more precisely "smart glasses" replacing smart phones) would compound those problems.

[@CoralCopperHead]

@@BuxtonsWater If you're using your phone as your primary means of connecting to the 'net, _you're part of the problem._

[@ggtay9727]

Congratulations! This tech could be useful or incredibly creepy. I hope people continue to focus on real life.

[@kashkara_8943]

I'm worried about what happens when everyone thinks everyone just agrees with your view rather then reality

[@Klaaism]

Facebook

[@Spinnie1]

This tech heavily depends on knowing your location which worries me most. And when if someone hacks into device and displays something in your vission when you are driving around.

[@Genesis23OPB]

its gonna be like in "ready player one"

[@Quroe_]

This is one of those videos that people look back on in 30 years that reference what we thought of the future.

[@LaceNWhisky]

The good parts of AR seem really good. It's stuff I've fantasized about since I was a kid. But the ugly parts of AR have the potential to really crash some ethical boundaries.

[@Googledeservestodie]

4:01 "want to find your car? Only if you watch this ad!" "Sorry, this translation feature is only available for our PREMIUM members!" "Calling an ambulance, but first we'd like to thank our sponsors at Raid Shadow Legends!" KZbin is the perfect example of what AR is going to be. I don't think this sugar-coated future is going to be accurate.

[@ecurewitz]

there need to be laws in place before any of this happens

[@Game_Hero]

That last one is just cruel

[@Karolpa1138]

Apps like google maps don't show you ads before navigating you to your target. That would simply compromise the whole idea.

[@bastisonnenkind]

You could pay for the service... Then you would get no or much less advertisments.

[@sukesshvelusamy5684]

@@bastisonnenkind Exactly. Half our problems with the internet today stems from the fact that people expect everything to be “free”.

[@Heliocanix]

me: already struggling with attention and memory issues due to internet addiction i developed as a kid bc of all the immediate satisfaction and serotonin kicks. As well as issues with excess daydreaming and escapism. "in AR we could have restaurant reviews or map guides pop up all over the place :D and AR games!!" me: oh... fantastic -_-

[@888SpinR]

I fear the future where the world is designed around AR, where AR effectively becomes a necessity to survive. Where companies can essentially charge you a subscription or a tiered, ad-supported free version that you NEED to use. You know that is inevitable.

[@jonnunn4196]

I don't see getting to that point in my life time. Something not addressed as one of the challenges is that as people age, most start having difficulty changing focus from far to near and back. Any AR based on glasses with text would have to be able to be attached to bifocals for those who are far sighted; and even then they'll have some trouble focusing on both the building and the AR text at the same time.

[@BeaverChainsaw]

What was once the daydream of tech workers and sci fi writers might become a nightmare.

[@YOSSARIAN313]

We already have that situation with cell phones. Modern life requires them

[@Kenjitsuka]

500 episodes? Man, I remember this being on The Escapist! Congrats... even though all three original members are long gone.

[@AkaiAzul]

Playing an AR game and accidentally smacking our environment or other people thinking they're a game target or being bad at games, missing and hurting others. Fun!

[@Jian13]

That's why games that have physical movement aspects will probably be limited to a play field with ui marking legal targets. Others will likely be gun or magic centric. People playing games will probably also be tagged with the title of the game for those not playing or watching.

[@tomasmondragon883]

When something like Gorilla Tag in VR makes the jump to AR, oh boy.

[@Raziel312]

LARPers! LARPers EVERYWHERE!! If that isn't a dystopia, I don't know what is.

[@Jian13]

@@Raziel312 What exactly is wrong with LARP?

[@Janzeleus]

@@Jian13 Sure will be all kinds of fun for american players when the police notices you acting weird and thinks you're holding a gun

[@TrueTgirl]

Yeah I won't lie, looking at the world around us now and considering our track record, especially with the internet, I feel absolutely no joy considering any part of AR tech. Only a deep, consuming dread.

[@BeaverChainsaw]

Yeah I mean it's cool and the dreams of sci fi writers and fiction for decades, but the idea of my eyes being tricked by a digital monitor is a little concerning. Like aren't cellphones enough?

[@CoralCopperHead]

"the world around us now." News flash, the world's always been like this.

[@connoissuer_of_class]

I feel this would lead to a lot of information overload on top of what we already deal with. On top of this; *“We tested that we can sell up to 80% of the users visual field before inducing seizures!”*

[@mitanni0]

source: IOI

[@Syurtpiutha]

The amount of information we get swarmed with is already immense, and much more than we can truly process. Most of the descriptions in the 'positive' changes already make me tired just thinking about them. Anyway, interesting episode, but I am not as optimistic as you guys are. Up to the next 500!

[@ICountFrom0]

As Tom Scott once said, "Ignore that tingling on the back of your neck, it's probably nothing". (Tom Scott - Blocking People in Real Life) Also the entire plot of "Human Readable" by Cory Doctorow. Just goes to show how far ahead those two are.

[@SuperNova-so2cj]

Tom Scott's talk Privacy is Dead, Whats Next? talked about a lot of these warnings half a decade ago too

[@xyz69asaurus]

I am extremely skeptical. Just like VR and self-driving cars, it seems like all of the people really excited about this technology are those involved in making it. I feel like I heard this "AR will be huge in 10 years" speech 10 years ago. Google Glass didn't just fail because it looked silly to wear, it failed because people were fundamentally uncomfortable in the technology.

[@MrOmarabdulhadi]

Congrats on 500 episodes ! I just got accepted for a job as an innovation hub manager a few days ago and this vid has definitely helped feed the hype fires over our upcoming AR/VR lab !

[@erdbeerprienz]

I'm also an upcoming Innovation manager and also thought about all the ways their ideas can feed into my work!

[@thehalfa95]

Congratulations on 500 episodes! As a fan id just like to say thank you for all the opportunites to learn!

[@marjae2767]

I don't usually get migraines from Extra Credits, but this time is an exception. "With AR, the entire world is your monitor." And my monitor hurts. Even with the brightness set to the minimum, the colors switched to get below te minimum, etc. it's still uncomfortable at best and painful at worst. I'm looking into an e-ink monitor, but ... I hope I never need AR. And imitating awful flashing painful web-design won't help.

[@kennyholmes5196]

"See, I'm pretty sure I got a few of your devices, there." Me: _Laughs in wearing headphones all the time when watching KZbin._

[@stevenn1940]

Me: *laughs in finding all of those too useless to actually have installed*

[@willhunt8963]

I cannot believe I’ve been watching this channel for over 10 years. Thinking way back to Dan and all the amazing people that have contributed to it, I’m happy I’ve been here through it all. Thank you EC!

[@azarlgor]

Open up youtube and see a video by Extra Credits was posted 37 seconds ago. Hell yeah

[@air._..]

7 seconds ago for me

[@orioni]

🏆 Congratulations Extra Credits for making it to 500 episodes! Thanks very much to everyone who's been involved throughout the years.

[@ruthgornet3275]

As long as they don't break into my heGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEAD

[@Klaaism]

Hmm weird sudden urge to eat Doritos and drink Mt Dew

[@Sevenseasick]

Let's goooooo

[@Foxpawed]

You know, I'd _love_ to get perks like having my name read out in the credits, but Ahmad, Alicia, Casey and Dominic have squatted on those slots for their entire existence, and Joseph, Kyle and Orels have likewise had those ever since you added more. Have you ever considered putting term limits on the shout-out tier? There's absolutely no shortage of people who would snag those slots.

[@Lugmillord]

Ah yes, playing while walking. That suuuuuurely won't cause any accidents.

[@CoralCopperHead]

GameBoy: *Am I a fucking joke to you?*

[@Rathewitch]

Barring the technological advances needed to make any of this actually possible in the way it's described, I would be incredibly worried about how overtaking all of the technology would be for our lives because it's already so overbearing already

[@Strawberry92fs]

Oh god no. the idea that anyone with my contact info could just put a quest market over my head is terrifying, and makes me desperately not want to have this future. It's too easy to track me as it is.

[@samwalker4761]

Congrats on 500 episodes EC! And thanks for showing me how AR might shape the future, have to say I hadn't ever thought of some of the applications you brought up. Here's hoping we have that type of thing soon!

[@peggyliepmann5248]

There's a book series, The Heartstrikers series, where in about 60 years, AR displays on phones and similar devices are standard tech. Granted it's because magic literally flooded back into the world and dragons now rule large chunks of the world, but still!

[@napdogs]

AR systems build with personal information... companies like Amazon, Google and Facebook with questionable security and ethics knowing where the keys to my car and house are... sounds like a great idea

[@Googledeservestodie]

To loosely quote Tyler from Knowledgehub: VR is inevitable, and it's not inherently bad the problem is "Facebook is f#@&ng evil." And that applies to basically all the other Big Tech companies who will just use it as advertising and governments who will probably use it for surveillance.

[@Toonrick12]

Washington DC and Silicon Valley. The only difference is what coast they are on.

[@theskeletonappearsinthisco5896]

facebook is bad becasue they make social media bubbles and allow misinformation, just putting advertisements on your service isnt bad

[@Valery0p5]

"with AR, the entire world is your monitor!" So they can put ads everywhere, NOPE, popups are already annoying on my computer.

[@pointynoodle]

God all the stuff you described vis-a-vis work and emails sounds like genuine hell, fuck no, I can't even look out the window without getting ads some of it's cool though, like clothing, surgery, and gaming

[@lizycole8999]

side note (7:25) I for one welcome our feline overlord of darkness

[@seamusmccartney5872]

The current digital spaces we have at the moment are a shit show, I don't want or look forward to AR :/

[@blahblahghost]

In our current capitalist dystopia, it's just furthering the dystopia.

[@levikkutllovcilorikkutllov1185]

Extra credits love 💘

[@hakundus8767]

I really think this video is a bit to positive and unrealistic of the capability of AR

[@FreshSmog]

Your AR wear will be a very personal device. I absolutely do not want AR devices that have anything to do with Meta, Google or any other company with an ad network. I don't want any of their slimy code on my device. That means I'll have to wait ten years extra at minimum for an open source version.

[@Roxor128]

It's bad enough with smartphones already. AR is just going to be a nightmare without an open source version.

[@spaceman1015]

500th yay

[@HaHaBIah]

Augmented Reality is Holograms made possible.

[@air._..]

hi congratulations on 500 episodes

[@GavinPlesko]

Someone should really make an open source standard for what is acceptable for AR. Policy on them is going to be a huge issue soon, and we already have a lot of fully functional AR devices in popular use. A lot of people don't realize airpods are AR devices. Apple saw what happened with the glass and are introducing the AR devices slowly and in as unoffensive a manner as possible.

[@elliotttheneko]

I think VR/AR's biggest issue is definitely the fact there's no unified and simple to use coding system

[@stevenn1940]

Please define how airpods are AR devices. As far as I'm aware, they are wireless earbuds, and nothing more.

[@BuxtonsWater]

Airpods are not AR devices. They're earbuds...

[@BuxtonsWater]

@@elliotttheneko There's no unified and simple coding system for anything. That's not something unique to VR/AR.

[@heartofdawn2341]

I am concerned about about information overload, especially with things like ads and Meta feeds, as well as the privacy aspects for both the users and those nearby that haven't chosen to opt in

[@jackiecooper9439]

U will definitely see ads. That's not even a question.

[@MiseFreisin]

Yeah, how to go about _not seeing_ them is gonna be the issue

[@Ralathar44]

Congratulations Extra Credits on the removal of the dislike button. So next time yall go off on some fucked up stupid tangent video nobody can see how disliked the video is except you. This is prolly the best news yall have received since you lost your original creators who had all the actual knowledge and skill behind the channel. So how long before yall stop pretending and shoot the "game design philosophy" videos in the head and just become extra History? Since the original creators left yall have spiraled from like 500k+ views a video down to less than 100k on your game design videos for damn good reason. They're just not good anymore and those in the know are aware of exactly why.

[@janakaedirisinghe5454]

i l❤ve this chanel may we get to the 1000th episode soon😁

[@JimSan_]

I... personally wouldn't want anything like this, I barely find my smart phone that useful outside of just playing music.

[@matthewwade6461]

This feels wrong, I don’t even know why, it just is. A.R. disturbs me. It is wrong. Sorry love the Chanel though 😅

[@armisg5664]

AR is one of those inevitabilities that, despite its many cool possibilities, I absolutely know will be misused by everyone who can. There's some hope that here in the EU some of the worst applications will be mitigated by lawmakers, but...

[@jmtrad1906]

AR has a lot of potential, but i can't see it working. Because is not only your privacy you are giving away, is everyone you look. And the tendency nowdays is people searching for more privacy products.

[@omegahaxors9-11]

There's this minecraft mod called OpenPeripheral which adds AR mechanics to the game. It's pretty awesome. I especially like having a readout of the base stats at a glance.

[@Nasafalkas1]

If AR had control over all that you said, a simple virus or hack could completely ruin your life.

[@bewilderedboy1]

Congratulations on the 500 🥳🥂 Here's to 500 more

[@romaboo6218]

Less goooo

[@jimlego9686]

Congratulations 👏👏👏🎈🎈🎈 On The 500th Episode

[@CosmicNebula444]

Mate I was watching this *on my phone with headphones in* and when he said "Okay Google" my phone reacted. That's scary

[@gamewatch6861]

AR on glasses you say? I wonder if I’ll be able to have that with my prescription lens?

[@birdstrum1555]

Haha! Watching KZbin at 2x protects me from your attempt to activate my ai companions

[@CrimsonBlasphemy]

So does giving your AI companions a name other than the equivalent of "Dog" and "Cat".

[@CoralCopperHead]

So does simply not bothering with VI companions because they're literally worthless.

[@Henry-Wilder]

500th episode gets 500 likes, nice!

[@HealyHQ]

"See, I'm pretty sure I got a few of your devices, there." No wiretaps in *my* house, thank you very much. ;)

[@BuxtonsWater]

If you own a phone then you already have a wiretap.

[@tomasmcgrath5766]

There is a really cool Yugioh AR called Project ATEM.

[@tamelo]

Augmented Reality is always 5-10 years in the future. However, the advances in the last decade have been smaller than even the most pessimistic expectation. There are some physical limitations on how your eyes can focus on objects that are close to our face. In fact, our wide field of view is an illusion generated in your brain, because our focal point is terribly smaller.

[@BuxtonsWater]

It's not an illusion. It's just nowhere near as defined as your fovea.

[@TheSugarRay]

And Facebook will have access to all this data of yours.