Pokemon Investors Fail to Understand This..

[@PokeProfit]

One thing I forgot to bring up in the video is that these mid/lower tier sets will also be more difficult to move in the future since there is less demand for them compared to the top sets that everyone wants to open/collect.

[@hieinh]

Agreed. just have to look at the history. Every set will go up with time and can be worth it at a discount but sets like Crimson invasion, SM base, SWSH base, are stagnant for now

[@CloudfireTCG]

ya you nailed it , its the reason i traded out of sv 03/04 ETBs and into more 151

[@FraserTrade]

Been holding battle styles for 3 years… it’s still in stock

[@CloudfireTCG]

@@FraserTrade man thats gotta hurt , sorry for that

[@cameronschmit6472]

Wrong. Nobody cares what’s in the set. Idk how many sets with shit cards need to explode before people realize sealed product is entirely separate from the cards inside. It’s been proven over and over and over again

[@jamesjazz3395]

The thing about shrouded fable is that the cards are very playable in the actual game. If you play the game, get that box.

[@PokeProfit]

Yup, I referenced that in the video. Still going to be cheaper for players to buy singles though.

[@Reds-Card-Case]

I dont think depth matters anymore. Number if cards over 100$ is probley what matters, and a bonus if one of them is over 300. That seems to be the formula that all the best boxes have in common. People wanna hit umbreon, giratina, gengar, and they want to have a backup second or third card worth 100 incase that fails. Thats what i consider when i want to rip somthing, and i dont think im alone anymore.

[@SaberkiddASMR]

I think silver tempest will be In the tier of Lost Origin. That Lugia will blow up.

[@Fox_Mccloud11]

@@SaberkiddASMR it won’t be. Great card though

[@JohtoJDay]

expensive booster box opener's are just gamblers lol. they dont want deep sets, they want a huge chase card.

[@chrisbenson7532]

I agree with a lot of what you said, all sets go up eventually. You mention in your videos how much Fusion Strike you have, which is for a lot of people well beyond what they could purchase. So even though everything goes up, you want to buy the sets that will be the most liquid when and if you want to sell. If you have $600 should you buy 5x S&V base set booster boxes or 3x Twilight Masquerade. For me, I would rather have less booster boxes of a more popular sets. It seems a lot of people have unlimited funds to spend.

[@PokeProfit]

Yeah I pinned a comment about that. Liquidity is important and I fully agree I’d rather have less boxes and more desirable sets long term, just to make offloading easier.

[@UnifiedMimes]

​@@PokeProfitthis mindset has me considering selling some of my Scarlet and Violet position to buy an evolving skies case or two.. am I nuts?

[@EeveelutionaryTree196]

@@UnifiedMimes I'd be careful about Evo Skies at this point. You'll definitely make a profit long term, but the set could easily turn around if there's an equivalent or better Umbreon on the horizon. I don't think the set will grow anywhere near as quickly going forward as it has up until this point - there is simply a limit to how much people are able to, not to mention willing to, spend on a single booster box. Mind you, I am not quite as well-versed with Pokémon investing as a lot of others. So take what I say with a grain of salt - or two.

[@simonalcroft7897]

@@EeveelutionaryTree196This is just the shittest take I’ve seen 😂

[@razzarelli1988]

As a supplier, I can tell you right now, nobody wanted Fusion Strike even at $85 shipped back then. It's hard to determine. I was around when Roaring Skies was thought to be the best investment, then it tanked, and has recently started climbing back up. Diversify! I've been in the game for 15 years. Don't forget, we deal in cardboard, diversify!!!!

[@kylemartin2487]

I think if newer folks like myself in the hobby were more understanding of both day trading and long term investments, they’d understand why all that’s left available is left available typically for a reason. Me personally, I bought a box/case of 151 tins for $210. I appreciate you reminding me that there’s no telling what people will want down the road, but I don’t see those 151 tins ever going for $100 CAD each anytime, ever. I think I made a mistake and now I feel the money was in the booster bundles. I know they aren’t highly sought after in comparison, but I’m hoping that Gen 1 nostalgia will live forever in the hobby. That’s why I took a gamble.

[@erikvanderploeg9969]

151 of almost any product is a good investment long term in my opinion.

[@PokeProfit]

The best money in 151 was in ETBs, but it’s a good set so don’t worry too much

[@jameswa4013]

@@ColePalmertheFrostMonarch here is a man who knows nothing about Pokemon and Pokemon investing

[@GodRareCollectibles]

Chilling Reign is a stunning set. Love it. Surging Sparks is also pure 🔥🔥🔥! Love it.⚡️⚡️

[@razzarelli1988]

Hindsight is 20/20. We are all experts when the market is up LOL. Nobody wanted Fusion strike, and nobody could have ever predicted what Fusion is doing. Now. My motto is have a little bit of everything in your collection

[@AntonioLaPlaca]

Yup. Even I was affected by the $80 Fusion Strike Boxes. I thought it was such an aesthetically beautiful set, and had all the elements (mew, Gengar, font/style) to be a huge set in the future. However, when I had limited money to spend at the time, I decided not to get a box, however I did buy some basic products at MSRP in big box stores, it wasn't until last year I bought a box for MSRP on the Pokemon Center when the excitement was slowly growing, and I realized I should get one now since I had the extra cash.

[@dx1473]

Wish there was a video like this back in the early S&S days I went hard into vivid battle and darkness, they are still up from what I paid but nowhere near other sets. I learned my lesson near the end of SS and picked up some boxes for MSRP which are now doing great.

[@thomascook7243]

Love this advice! You are spot on and I have followed this approach for S&V - super heavy on PE and SS (I missed the 151 boat unfortunately). With SW&SH, when I first started investing, I just purchased a couple cases of each set but with no regard for how strong the chase cards were. Mostly because I was still learning how to invest in Pokemon collectibles. Keep up the great content! 👊🏻

[@PokeProfit]

Appreciate the support and kind words man 🙏

[@ArcticLapras]

Silver Tempest will probably move past Brilliant Stars. The reason is the Lugia. Also, glad that you´re giving Obsidian Flames some respect now. Remember, it has a chase card. Raw prices aren´t everything. If you look at the PSA 10 Charizard it becomes quite valuable.

[@PokeProfit]

Obsidian Flames is still dogshit. Don’t buy it.

[@ArcticLapras]

@@PokeProfit Nah, it´s not.

[@JessMml]

Great video. Wish more youtubers would say this. I get not wanting to cherry pick on what sets you think are "good" but this absolutely matters. The data has made it crystal clear.

[@Bananasforthesoul]

I’m pretty sure anyone looking at the set lists 1-2 years ago would’ve said brilliant stars tops lost origin (price agreed as well for the most part). I’m sure it’ll perform very well long term.

[@Bananasforthesoul]

LO has next to nothing besides giratina, so all it would take is the zard AA to spike for it to change

[@eonian6096]

I think in the 6-10 year span depth is important, cosmoc eclipse is 2nd best SM set and is known for the depth, same goes to other late SM sets which typically do much better than earlier ones (im excluding team up)

[@eonian6096]

And look at SM, top hit card prices arent high but people still buy sets. Why would streamer or a collector rip a SM booster box? If only 1 chase card its just pure gambling, but if many good cards its more appealing to open and look at them

[@khaiwin21]

Love paradox rift and paldea evolved and glad I got them at a good position so it feels good to see them climbing! Shrouded fable to me is a fun low risk atm, ripping some to chase those 5-10 valuable cards for the set and the rest will be a hold for probably atleast 2026-2027. I wouldn't invest a high percentage of your portfolio on it though for the reasons you stated where other sets are definitely gonna out perform growth wise in shorter amount of time.

[@coopercollins1780]

Long term hold. Would you rather hold 100 CZ packs or trade them for higher priority sealed like etb’s or booster boxes

[@PokeProfit]

Sealed ETBs or booster boxes for sure

[@CloudfireTCG]

I always felt that obsidian was under appreciated , there's some sexy zards in that box and they seemed easy to pull .But the market doesn't seem to agree and the card prices are underwhelming

[@jjlegend900]

What do you think of Darkness Ablaze? Booster box on tcg player is around $200 at the lowest but the most expensive card is Corviknight around $20 from what I see

[@PokeProfit]

After a certain amount of time, booster boxes become collectibles and aren’t based entirely on the hits inside. But the set still sucks.

[@jjlegend900]

Thank you for your response. Do you think it’s worth a buy in around 160-170 dollars? I’ve seen some websites still have it for around this price

[@Fox_Mccloud11]

@@jjlegend900no, buy other sets instead

[@Haileyonguitar]

You think paradox will double from where it is faster than fables? I say this because shrouded basically can 5X before it gets to the same price as pardox.

[@PokeProfit]

Can’t compare an ETB to a Booster box in terms of price, but I wouldn’t be surprised if PR is $260 before SF is $75-80

[@Haileyonguitar]

@ yeah for sure re the ETB. I guess I was more thinking 6 booster bundles of SF. If each can hit 50 before PR doubles

[@derekk2300]

Shrouded is ass. Your only luck is that it’s not reprinted to make it valuable. Other than that not many people care for the set

[@Haileyonguitar]

@@derekk2300 true that it sucks but look at price of bad sets from prior generations like Stem Siege

[@stevegaspar]

Brilliant Stars will be one of the best sets in terms of value and price gains within 2-3 years. I also think Shrouded Fable will be a sleeper hit in a few years. I am buying a few Pokemon Centre ETBs which there are many left at MRSP.

[@PropiaPersona]

Economy is crashing before our very eyes yet here we are

[@Haileyonguitar]

Must sell for profits while there are many sales per week wait to long and older sets only sell a few month for boxes

[@PokeProfit]

I sell when I can make my goal profit. I’m in no rush to move boxes.

[@seswan9254]

While true there are also only normally a couple boxes listed a month

[@LM-mc2lm]

What about twilight masquerade?

[@PokeProfit]

What about it?

[@SF-tb8df]

All these will kill it in 10 years and further, I'm out to collect one of each booster box I can afford as well as PC etbs. I collected in 1999 and have all my old cards. More than likely send PSA some of my cards, zards, blastoises and venusaurs but my collection of new stuff is staying sealed and holding for minimum 10 years if not much much more. Everything will appreciate.

[@02danhaz]

The US has gone crazy. Its probably actually cheaper to buy and ship from here (UK) than to buy in the country

[@PokeProfit]

I need a business partner from the UK 😂

[@EeveelutionaryTree196]

I don't find the prices to be related to the "set" of cards in the long term. I find that Booster boxes (36 packs) tend to be roughly equivalent to 80% of the biggest hit in the set long term. That is why Lost Origin (Giratina V AA), Fusion Strike (Gengar Vmax AA), Surging Sparks (Pikachu EX SIR) and Crown Zenith (Giratina HR) are on the rise. It is also why Silver Tempest (Lugia V AA) will eventually boom. And why Obsidian Flames, Stellar Crown, and SV Base aren't really going crazy. SCR and SV Base have a bunch of nice cards. The problem is that, at the moment, there is no proper high-end chase card in either set. Edit: I see you mention it a little bit later in the video. As a sidenote, ETBs work for bad sets if the ETB box looks nice sealed. In a lot of the "bad" XY sets, the ETBs are worth as much as the Booster Box. Hint hint: Obsidian Flames ETBs.

[@PokeProfit]

Can’t really compare XY ETBs to current gen. Print runs on those were insanely low and are much rarer whereas newer ETBs can succeed with a banger promo, even if the set is lacklustre, like OF. But I do agree that, if a weaker set has a solid promo in the ETB, along with nice artwork, it’s probably one of the better ways to have exposure to the set.

[@Fox_Mccloud11]

The OF ETB is expensive not because of the box art, but because of the promo inside

[@EeveelutionaryTree196]

@@Fox_Mccloud11 Currently the promo is the vast majority of reasoning behind price changes for that ETB, yes. And likely going to be a big part of the reason forever. However, there are people collecting sealed product, and ETBs are often highlights in those collections. The OBF ETB is likely going to be one of those boxes sealed collectors are going to want as well though.

[@KhoaNguyen-ty9tw]

hey just thought to let you know there will probably be a restock of prismatic evolutions in may/june. our biggest store in australia let us know

[@PokeProfit]

Thanks man. I expect multiple restocks of product for prismatic evolutions. I’m looking forward to DCAing throughout the year

[@KhoaNguyen-ty9tw]

@@PokeProfit no doubt even the restocks will be hard to get. our biggest store seems to have already sold out their second allocations

[@AntonioLaPlaca]

That's not a restock. It's just different lines of products coming in.

[@KhoaNguyen-ty9tw]

@@AntonioLaPlaca ? ETB presold out beyond their allocation. In Jan they didn't have enough allocation. They will restock more ETBs on May/June to fulfil the rest of the orders.

[@AntonioLaPlaca]

@@KhoaNguyen-ty9tw Yeah because they over presold to try to get more money from their customers. Their allocations in May/June are going to be so small. If you think these were small, wait until the second restock rolls around.

[@benwoods7212]

This is why the Shrouded Fable PC ETB at MSRP is still a pass for me.

[@southernhypecollects3670]

Is $119 Paradox Rift BB a go?!

[@PokeProfit]

Up to you man

[@AntonioLaPlaca]

Since he didn't answer, I'd say yes. Go ahead and get it if you can afford it.

[@RyanBailey-r9p]

Surprised at the lack of talk about silver tempest. I think in 2-3 years time itill be clearly ES/FS 1&2. After that silver tempest is in the running for 3. Yes I said it. A chance to be above LO. Go to a card show. The amount of giratina out there is unreal. I am not saying for sure its number 3 but in my mind the battle isnt decided yet.

[@PokeProfit]

Hot take for sure

[@Pwnzers]

Hot take: surging sparks is a mid set. Pikachu SIR is a mid card

[@Haileyonguitar]

Agree only 1 good card from the set

[@UnifiedMimes]

Hot take: 151 is a mid set and the Charizard is a mid card.

[@yobro6053]

Latios and Latias look beautiful

[@Pwnzers]

@@UnifiedMimes that is spicy hot 😂

[@Pwnzers]

@ I feel Ike they are mid as well.

[@roxyboxy69]

Honestly i like paradox a lot more than chilling reign. I like the art more and the pull rates are way way better. Just my opinion. I don't enjoy opening Chilling. I think in the future people will want to open fun sets with good pull rates. I think scarlet and violet is hands down a better era than sword and shield. I have large positions in both but just prefer scarlet and violet.

[@ParzivanBean]

Will primsatic be a good set in your opinion ?

[@PokeProfit]

Yes

[@charlesnorman8019]

Paradox is better then lost origin hot take. Lost origin has like 5-6 good cards

[@PokeProfit]

Okay

[@JoshTT2]

Really good video. Completely agree.

[@bbq1040]

I'd argue that SV is better than SWSH overall. Look at the first 4 sets of SWSH and tell me it's better than the first 4 sets of SV. 151 is an SV set. Now prismatic. I think people had rose colored glasses looking back on the SWSH era when every youtuber was sh*tting on SV era, completely ignoring the beauty of the IRs. The market overall is being held up by people hoarding product. How does this all play out in 3 years when there are hundreds of thousands of boxes of surging sparks getting back on the market? It'll be like the set gets a huge reprint. It's weird that pokemon card investors are all instantly experts on the market based only on the last few years. Just listening to KZbin channels let's me know that no one has any idea what they are talking about. Anyone that tells you the market can't go down is delusional. If you're looking to buy to open, don't overspend now on newer sets. There will be chances later, just like there always has been.

[@PokeProfit]

I think a lot of your assumptions about product being hoarded are incorrect. There is always people selling. $200, $300, $400. You think none of the boxes are getting ripped? I’m not an expert, but there are lots of people who have been here for over a decade that would absolutely disagree with you. I also think the start of SV has been better than the start of SWSH. That’s not really a contentious take. We will see how the rest of the generation plays out. It’s looking promising!

[@Thomas86Wayne-bp1xp]

Are you & Vaporself family? 😅

[@PokeProfit]

Hilarious

[@Thomas86Wayne-bp1xp]

@ 😂😂

[@RobertPulson-b1e]

I think your sleeping on brilliant really

[@PokeProfit]

I own more brilliant than any other SWSH set, it’s not as good as the others.

[@RobertPulson-b1e]

@PokeProfit yet who's to say charizard don't run to the moon and send prices way up. He's literally next in line. You can always sell it all and buy shrouded fable

[@MonkeyDLuffy-lg8ro]

Sword and shield : Currently evolving skies is no.1 and fusion strikes no.2, but I think lost origin is gonna be the same with fusion just a little bit later. And after lost origin, crown zenith is the most safe set to invest imo. Has both depth and chase plus it's not that expensive right now. My speculation is lost origin is gonna do the same with fusion in the next month and growth will slow down in 3-6 months and that's when crown zenith will rise like fusion after 3-6 months. Scarlet and violet: I checked the prismatic evolution cards and it makes no sense to be so good. Some of their non top cards like the roaring moon already looks better than the damn chase in the other set. After its release those sets will probably stay the same/decrese in value and surging sparks too becasue everyone will just go for prismatic evolutions. Its just too good of a set, the SwSh equivalent of evolving skies. Edit: No one asked nor replied yet but the reason I think surging sparks wont be as good as now is because I speculate so many people buy is mainly for the hype. So far in Scarlet violet there are no good sets with 151 as an exception but let's be honest it's only good because of Kanto pkm. Just look at the charizard, imo that charizards design isnt "simple" or "plain", its straight up bad. Surging sparks have ok cards like the pikachu and latias but who cares about exeggator and hydreigon. When I mean 151 and surging have bad cards I mean they people are mainly buying because of what the pokemon is, not if the cards actually look good. That's what I mean by the hype. But look at prismatic evolution, I dont really like iron hands nor palfin but their art just looks super super super amazing. Prismatic evolutions IS the evolving skies of Scarlet Violet. I'm a new investor(started learning how the irl cards work 2 weeks ago) So I only know about SV and SwSh. My knowledge is limited especially cuz I dont compare with history charts but I speculate there will be a small drop of prismatic evolutions after release like surging sparks.

[@NCEngravers]

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