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@yoiptree3 жыл бұрын
Me
@TheDiamondMaskBSS3 жыл бұрын
For me, it was shauntal
@shpaghettishpaghetti62193 жыл бұрын
Leave a reply to boost the algorithm.
@swampy7253 жыл бұрын
@@TheDiamondMaskBSS lost my swanna to her Marshall was harder because of that
@tizi3653 жыл бұрын
Lucian, that fucking gallade caught me off guard
@matheusjanuario20873 жыл бұрын
“Karen can be a problem” Said literally all managers.
@superlombax15613 жыл бұрын
Lol. And if your character is named Manager, she's a guaranteed run killer for that.
@shenzhong30783 жыл бұрын
@@superlombax1561 i regret doing that during my nuzlock,i named myself manager and i almost got wiped to karen lol,luckily i have ice beam from lanturn in my lance fight,only one standing was espeon and lanturn lol
@Sir_Isaac_Newton_3 жыл бұрын
No one thought this joke before you, definitely xd
@orange61942 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@chonchjohnch2 жыл бұрын
Jokes aside I watch a fair amount of challenge run videos and Karen is almost universally feared and loathed
@hobez643 жыл бұрын
"Glacia, you probably won't lose to her" Unless you're attempt #77
@Jagerack3 жыл бұрын
His sleep paralysis demon along with drake
@antoniacorrales91483 жыл бұрын
This comment right here.
@blancspaze3 жыл бұрын
he rateted every one based on main series games not rom hacks
@blancspaze3 жыл бұрын
he rateted every one based on main series games not rom hacks
@animator42873 жыл бұрын
@@blancspaze Really? No shit.
@randomguy24723 жыл бұрын
hm, yes, i don't do nuzlockes, but this guy is weirdly entertaining
@momotaro12363 жыл бұрын
Same
@jesusseinpferd__96283 жыл бұрын
Same
@synadc92273 жыл бұрын
this is such a weird comment wtf
@conwaytheel3 жыл бұрын
Can relate.
@adamgrogory3 жыл бұрын
The most relatable comment
@Pepito_Sanchez3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Pokémon Professors - Oak - Elm - Birch - Rowan - Juniper - Sycamore - I Wanna Touch His Abs - Magnolia
@silvergameryair20843 жыл бұрын
they started a trend in gen 5 of hot proffesors then stopped it in gen 8 :( doesnt pass the vibe check
@TheWrathAbove3 жыл бұрын
@@silvergameryair2084 Nah, Sonia is also a prof in gen 8 so they still got the streak going
@KingPineapple3 жыл бұрын
“Hot professors” when Elm isn’t right there smh
@glumreaper88853 жыл бұрын
Sonia definitely passes the vibe check
@EJS-jj8py3 жыл бұрын
@@silvergameryair2084 busted many nuclear bombs because of sonia wym
@shakeelamlay1303 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, forgot this was the main channel and pChal Daily was a side channel.
@Stuff-ut4bb3 жыл бұрын
Pchal daily isnt his maim channel?
@tbfree67123 жыл бұрын
Nope lol
@sohanmakhija44673 жыл бұрын
TRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@commander_frog3 жыл бұрын
The hardest is clearly Brock, he just so hard all the time
@j0sephii3 жыл бұрын
It's true I looked it up
@soggywater72713 жыл бұрын
Oh
@masterturbo22183 жыл бұрын
Brock has a very hard snake And it isn't his Onix
@MrRickypt3 жыл бұрын
Pure rock hard determination
@beinyourguard3 жыл бұрын
"You're hot, but not as hot as Brock"
@RileyPPP3 жыл бұрын
I've had 5 runs make it to Platinum Cynthia and I've had 5 runs die to Platinum Cynthia. With hardcore nuzlocke rules in mind I can't really think of a more daunting fight in all of vanilla Pokemon.
@Anand707073 жыл бұрын
May I have a moment to talk about the lord of light, Ultra Necrozma? Without Zoroark or Malamar, UN can and will drop a fucking nuke on you.
@arhkadian23893 жыл бұрын
i've honestly been debating whether i think Cynthia or Ghetsis (BW1) is the hardest fight. i've had loads of trouble with both of them.
@reaperofthings3 жыл бұрын
@@Anand70707 adaptive damage isn’t scary at all for anyone that’s ever played a Fire Emblem game. It’s super easy to play around, and fairy types, especially mixed defensive fairy types with Toxic, Substitute and Protect, laugh at UN. I had a Malamar for that fight, and I didn’t bring him in because I had a bulky Primarina and I just Moonblasted it to death while it tried desperately to AD and Smart Strike her to death, which didn’t work out so well since my Primarina was able to 3 shot, needed to take 3 shots before dying and was faster. Decidueye and Mimikyu are also easy counters. They have ghost coverage and Mimikyu’s got Disguise for easy Toxic.
@measnek10523 жыл бұрын
@@reaperofthings I mean if you have to literally pick your starter specifically to be able to beat one Pokemon that's hours away from the start of the game I think that means it's not as easy as you think it is, also mimikyu is not a common encounter
@reaperofthings3 жыл бұрын
@@measnek1052 Primarina takes care of all 4 Kahuna and most of the trials solo. That’s not picking your starter to sweep ONE thing, that’s counter picking pretty much the entire game Also, Mimikyu isn’t a common encounter, true. But i’ve caught one every time I went through the abandoned Pokemart. Usually as my first encounter. Luck plays a large part sure, but if you pick Primarina, you basically win
@browserjunior47073 жыл бұрын
“She can swing my golf club” Ah, a Kahili enjoyer
@necrobonesgaming24243 жыл бұрын
"The hardest part of the Olivia fight is, umm... nevermind." "This professor, I wanna touch his abs" A true man of culture.
@browserjunior47073 жыл бұрын
@@necrobonesgaming2424 Alola feeding us well
@nero78623 жыл бұрын
"*moan* oh fuck Karens so hot god dammit"
@sanjablazina28793 жыл бұрын
I see there is a best moments thread, nice.
@funniestcomment73053 жыл бұрын
Wasn't she underage in his waifu tier?
@lyncario55153 жыл бұрын
One thing to note about the Gen 7 E4 and champion is that their teams are ev trained, which can make things go from tricky to "holy fuck that Magnezone is destroying me, help".
@harry-mb4sn3 жыл бұрын
The gen 5 elite 4 in bw2 challenge mode get so much harder. More items, and also Caitlin becomes a run killer because of life orb metagross.
@largenaq29353 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Zoroark still sweeps through both Caitlin and Shauntal. Ban that mon and you’re right
@harry-mb4sn3 жыл бұрын
@@largenaq2935 nah zoroark can’t handle life orb metagross. Also in challenge mode shauntaul’s chandelure has a choice scarf which makes it faster than zoroark who it can OHKO with fire blast.
@largenaq29353 жыл бұрын
@@harry-mb4sn I’m talking from experience though. I EV trained my Zoroark in speed and spatk, and because it has nearly perfect IVs with a +speed nature it outspeeds scarf Chandelure. Combined with Nasty Plot + Dark Pulse + Flamethrower, it swept through both Shauntal and Caitlin.
@harry-mb4sn3 жыл бұрын
@@largenaq2935 yeah but generally I ban ev’s from runs. They make everything way too easy. Bulky mons become insanely op.
@speeddemon29013 жыл бұрын
@@largenaq2935 well zoroark can't win you agaisnt dark and fighting.... So for the rest of the 5 you a haxorus ,emboar, (if lucky) then excadrill+ krookadile(get sandstorm up) , or hydreigon ... Like kinda limits your team if you don't get the encounters sorted.. Then again no rock types mean volcarona can hard counter caitlin and also grimsley
@confusedlefty3 жыл бұрын
I think the drake joke with Travis Scott was just a way to get more comments, pretty smart
@joshreynolds5883 жыл бұрын
nah thats a video of a guy screaming “DRAKE!!!!” when travis scott appears during the fortnite concert
@confusedlefty3 жыл бұрын
@@joshreynolds588 ooooohhhhh ok so it’s just people doing what people do on fortnite, be stupid
@shenzhong30783 жыл бұрын
He need da algorithm dud
@lucasgarcia82853 жыл бұрын
I haven’t even watched the video yet but ur comment baited me
@razor97683 жыл бұрын
Man it’s hard for Fortnite to be mentioned without a negative stereotype popping out, even if the context is ironic, or not.
@alexanderkaufman35753 жыл бұрын
I personally think it would be cool if the elite 4 were more strategy themed rather than type themed. Working on trying to make an Emerald ROM where Sydney is a Baton Pass team, Phoebe is a stall team, Glacia is a Sun team (Look... Hail isn't that great and there is already a Water type specialist in the 8th gym), and Drake is a hyper offensive trainer
@largenaq29353 жыл бұрын
Koga is strategy themed If you count spamming double team and minimise as strategy
@AlldaylongRock3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Type specialties at this level is dumb. Heck at gym level most of the vanilla games you basically sweep every one of these with one pokemon... Little to zero type variety and too many overlapping weaknesses.. The literal only gym leader in vanilla that does have a kinda balanced team is Piers in SwSh. A game that did gyms nice was Insurgence.. Cool strats, type variety and good movesets
@necrobonesgaming24243 жыл бұрын
You could change Glacia into stall and use Hail Stall, making use of all the turns granted by Snow Cloak, Sub + Ice Body etc. Could even use Sheer Cold as a proper wincon rather than throwing it once before dying and praying it lands. Phoebe could then be themed after status and trickery ala GSC Koga. Just food for thought~ But yeah it's really disappointing that the Elite 4 aren't themed. Gen 2 Koga is legit the only one with a coherent practical theme (not shit like "beauty" or "power" like bitch gimme a challenge not a life lesson, leave THOSE themes to gym leaders and rivals). He's all about taking the game out of your control - preventing or punishing switches with status/spikes, preventing you from landing attacks with double team/minimize, nerfing healing by using toxic's scaling damage. It's one of the most well thought out E4 teams, it's just a shame that a) there weren't many good bug/poison types at that point so they're all shitmons that lose to any fire move, and b) the AI just spams Double Team instead of actually doing what the team's supposed to. ...Rematch team is kinda ass though. Drops the Forretress so he has no spikes, leads with his only answer to psychic moves (which also explodes anyway), and Muk doesn't even have a fucking attack????? Literally has minimize/screech/swagger/toxic - WHY DO YOU EVEN HAVE SCREECH WHEN YOU CAN'T ATTACK?! Pretty clear that whoever worked on him in HGSS had no clue what made Koga the way he was, just copy pasted the GSC team for round 1 and slapped on some gen 3/4 mons and random moves for round 2.
@danieljay61963 жыл бұрын
I’ve thought about this for years and it is such a good idea. You shouldn’t be able to potentially sweep one of the 4 best trainers in any given region with one type. Gyms I think type specialty is fine but elite 4 should be things like weather and/or various battle types like double or triple battles
@luisgusta3 жыл бұрын
The issue is that the AI is usually not very good with strategies, so GF would have to invest in improving the E4 AI at least. And even then, they'll probably be very cheesable. That's why EK is all about coverage and high offensive, that's what pokemon AI kind of know how to do well.
@zekapaugordinho.65773 жыл бұрын
Finally someone recognize Iris as a hard champion.
@rjante22363 жыл бұрын
The only sucky member she has is Aggron, but everything else can sweep you tbh. The fact that she LEADS with a Hydreigon speaks volumes.
@zekapaugordinho.65773 жыл бұрын
@@rjante2236 Iris be like "Let's have some fun with this battle! *Iris send out an Hydreigon.* "
@rjante22363 жыл бұрын
@@zekapaugordinho.6577 Meanwhile, somewhere in the world, the protagonist from Black and White 1 cries out in agony
@michaellogozzo20733 жыл бұрын
@@rjante2236 not even aggron is sucky. I mean probably her weakest link (besides maybe Archeops since if you don’t do half you’re doing something wrong) but still not too bad
@rjante22363 жыл бұрын
@@michaellogozzo2073 It dies to basically any Water move, to be fair. It would be hard to NOT have a Water type.
@r0taz8953 жыл бұрын
now we need a mommy dommie tier list jan
@lemonaid97983 жыл бұрын
He already made a tier list a couple months ago
@hunter001433 жыл бұрын
S tier Claire Juniper Glacia Cynthia
@ElFlores19843 жыл бұрын
he made one
@ElFlores19843 жыл бұрын
its called the pokemon waifu tier list i think
@thatonemcdonaldsemployee35063 жыл бұрын
Theres a pokemon waifu tier list from 2 years back
@entr3_nou52 жыл бұрын
My toxic trait is thinking I could beat the “free” tier with ease even though I’ve never done a Nuzlocke in my life
@adachy2 жыл бұрын
i’ve never seen a tiktok comment in the wild before
@entr3_nou52 жыл бұрын
@@adachy I’m gonna be honest I didn’t think this was a Tiktok “thing”. I saw it in a comment and thought “that’s funny wording” and it’s occurred to me that no one else thinks it’s funny 😰
@adachy2 жыл бұрын
@@entr3_nou5 nah it’s fine
@aroyalduck1672 жыл бұрын
I mean I beat Cynthia on my firt nuzlocke so you shouldn't have too much trouble with the free and meh tier trainers.
@a2zistoolong4482 жыл бұрын
@@aroyalduck167 for real? Damn
@ame-chan5792 жыл бұрын
"The 5th gen elite four is pretty easy" Me: -after doing the rematch in challenge mode in B2/W2- ... *Are you sure about that?*
@miguelbarbosa75972 жыл бұрын
Try to beat it in the challenge mode of Pokemon BLAZE Black 2 :D
@perrycarters31132 жыл бұрын
@@miguelbarbosa7597 I fuck with Drayano's hacks so hard, holy shit. So many of the things he said I had to stop myself from mentioning Drayano's versions of those fights, like the ORAS E4 all having Megas.
@miguelbarbosa75972 жыл бұрын
@@perrycarters3113 I didn't even know he had made a hack rom of ORAS. I've tried to nuzlocke Volt White and Volt White 2. At the first one I needed 11 attempts just to beat the first gym, just to get demolished by Lenora right after. I did better at the second one, but Clay totally wiped out my team with only 2 of his mons ;-;
@perrycarters31132 жыл бұрын
@@miguelbarbosa7597 Cheren in Blaze Black 2, especially on Challenge Mode, is fucking *murderous* in my opinion. Your only options for super effective damage that early is to either overlevel Tepig into Pignite or to somehow get unbelievably lucky and find/catch a Riolu, Mankey, or Tyrogue, and none of them are likely to sweep his entire team.
@miguelbarbosa75972 жыл бұрын
@@perrycarters3113 In my first nuzlocke attempt, as lucky as it seems, the first pokemon I found in Flochessy Ranch was a Riolu. I just grinded it up until lvl 15 (so it would learn Force Palm) and then wiped out Cheren's entire team. However, it was on Normal Mode, I'd probably have been defeated if played on Challenge Mode :/
@mebreevee19973 жыл бұрын
He sounds so disappointed. “I cant believe that’s the one that got you.” The deadpan monotone makes it so much better, its like he monotoned his usual monotone.
@micabryant45132 жыл бұрын
I dunno he sounds like he's trying to push people away with literally every sentence... Makes content..shares with world...tells world I hate you...then says enjoy my content...but don't talk to me.... Hit Subscribe ......but Im not reading your comments they're worthless It's like he's trying to Neg his audience .....
@mebreevee19972 жыл бұрын
@@micabryant4513 Yeah some people like that kind of thing. I can only handle it in moderation. Usually I only watch his nuzlocke reviews, and only if I watched the original nuzlocke.
@Aerowarrier2 жыл бұрын
Poor Sydney, guy was so ahead of his time. If only he’d come just one Gen later, he might’ve been a threat
@banter80443 жыл бұрын
Klefki is super effective against all of Dianthas pokemon except gourgeist. And you just set up calm mind on goirgeist.
@synthdott79543 жыл бұрын
who would win? a ferocious tyrannosaurus-rex, a graceful Brachiosaurus, a magical knight, a wrestler or a pair of keys
@emiledewilde41123 жыл бұрын
Lol I didn't even realize cuz Klefki is so bad usually
@banter80443 жыл бұрын
@@synthdott7954 Actually Klefki is 5 keys.
@MagnezoneSH3 жыл бұрын
Mawile have Crunch tho
@hendeyjagger74893 жыл бұрын
@@emiledewilde4112 Prankster is nice
@codetaku3 жыл бұрын
Any tier list that puts Cynthia at the top is a good tier list. Not just hardest E4 member, she's also just the coolest Champion of all time.
@Emobullymaguire3 жыл бұрын
The same one that forgets her change at the ice cream stand?
@MayHugger3 жыл бұрын
@@Emobullymaguire The most relatable one too. They gave her everything!
@diegoxavier91072 жыл бұрын
I mean, I dunno... Steven's pretty freaking badass with his solid steel cuffs
@nellewoodruff63372 жыл бұрын
@@diegoxavier9107 I agree. Cynthia's a queen but I like Steven more.
@PuppetThanksScott2 жыл бұрын
Cynthia is cool, but Steven is cooler cmm
@DoctorFalchion3 жыл бұрын
Jrose11's "Can you beat Pokemon Red/Blue with just a _____" challenges are where Agatha truly shines. No other elite four member has caused him nearly so much pain. I've watched so many of his videos that seeing Bruno above her is hard to stomach XD
@crimsoncutz84302 жыл бұрын
When you can switch around against her low damage Pokemon to break confusion and mitigate sleep she's a joke. When you're going solo the Agatha Lottery gets to ruin your day if even one thing goes wrong.
@Hufflepuff5283 жыл бұрын
Always thought Iris wasn’t hard at all until I wiped to her in my Hardcore run of White 2 the day after this video came out 💀
@michaelhyams6323 жыл бұрын
Caitlyn is terrifying if you don't have a solid counter for her. She just does a ridiculous amount of damage if you let her.
@krypt1ccc7393 жыл бұрын
Pro Nuzlocker Ranks how hard the Elite Four Members make him.
@melonmanwill3 жыл бұрын
"Karen has nothing that can threaten you" bro i have a hard time beating her Nasty Plot Houndoom when im doing a regular playthrough lol
@treasuremage75463 жыл бұрын
It has 50 defense, and 75 hp.
@ShubhamSingh-xc9dq3 жыл бұрын
@@treasuremage7546 it's pretty speedy plus level curve makes it pretty difficult (if the E4 were like gen 5 where every E4 member have same level Pokemon then it would have been easy). I actually lost to Karen multiple times in my first play though in soul silver. If you don't have a good water type or ground type it's quite difficult.
@FreetStighter3 жыл бұрын
It also two shots a lot of things, which spells trouble in set mode.
@melonmanwill3 жыл бұрын
@@treasuremage7546 Understand when all your pokemon are level 40 cause you're playing off the original cart with no speedup options it can be painful. Plus I didn't use a water type (No particular reason other than wanting to challenge myself and wanting to use other pokemon) with my ground type being ice it gave me alot of trouble. Funnily enough Lance was a breeze
@Aster_Iris2 жыл бұрын
Destiny Bond Gengar can be pretty scary, too. Sure, you might not wipe to that considering the nature of Destiny Bond, but it can definitely sabotage you bigtime.
@vonKobra3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted you to say Cynthia free moving on, with no explanation.
@usmanya51102 жыл бұрын
Well if you what you're doing but that means everyone's free.
@Arko7777773 жыл бұрын
Lucian was pretty hard in D/P, especially since I didn't pick Infernape and it's hard to beat a wall that's only weak to fire without decent fire types.
@ray00643 жыл бұрын
No kidding I got lucky thanks to my torterra landing a crit crunch. That thing wouldn’t die
@robertocorti98452 жыл бұрын
He has calm mind High spdef and potions. On even level,bad idea
@lime-limelight2 жыл бұрын
I had to get my empoleon at level 66 to defeat that thing lol
@davidreyna74103 жыл бұрын
Ah, so THIS is why we didn't get a Friday upload on the daily channel
@alexowen36493 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that. And at such a vital time in the most promising run too
@oflgn69293 жыл бұрын
Jan: I don't understand why they made a water type champion for emerald. "Too much water" - IGN
@kiwikarp95093 жыл бұрын
It's because torchic was way too good in ruby and saphire compared to the other 2 starters.
@syznosleep3 жыл бұрын
@@kiwikarp9509 that's not true LMAO. Swampert is the best of the 3
@kiwikarp95093 жыл бұрын
@@syznosleep Blaziken line had type advantage against more of the bosses in the game compared to the other two. Swampert has more stats, but that's about it.
@syznosleep3 жыл бұрын
@@kiwikarp9509 about overall, all gyms, boss fights, grunts and e4, swampert deal with all of them and does good into Steven and decently into Wallace. That's why hes the best.
@MrAndrewaziz3 жыл бұрын
Too much water is a legit criticism idc what anyone wants to meme on
@cylver35933 жыл бұрын
I didn’t start trying nuzlockes until recently, since I’ve enjoyed watching this channel. My first nuzlocke was in Sword, and I lost to Leon. His haxorus landed three crits in a row to take out half of my team, and charizard finished the rest.
@EJS-jj8py3 жыл бұрын
F in the chat
@shenzhong30783 жыл бұрын
Rip, so sad to see dying to the champ, haxorus is very dangerous if ur not careful
@bdf10063 жыл бұрын
Yeah. People don't realize how strong Haxorus actually is. It's on the low end of speed when it comes to sweepers and isn't particularly bulky so it loses to other sweepers but Haxorus has stupide high attack. Like it has 2 more base attack than Mega Salamence. Leon is a really strong Champion with a diverse team and a high level spike from the previous battles.
@tomasapud82403 жыл бұрын
@@bdf1006 fun fact: Haxorus has the highest attack of all non legendary dragons, so with a dragon dance to compensate his speed it can complete sweep
@bdf10063 жыл бұрын
@@tomasapud8240 Trust me. I know Haxorus is my favorite Pokemon and I've swept people in tournaments if they let me setup. That's the issue though is the set up. I have also done well with a scarf Haxorus though
@Pascll3 жыл бұрын
I personally had a fair bit of trouble with karen on my heartgold playthrough (which wasn't a nuzlocke btw). her houndoom was very difficult to defeat, it has nasty plot in that game. each time it was able to set up nasty plot, I lost, it just 1-shot all of my pokemon.
@hughmann84583 жыл бұрын
It has like 50 Def. Almost any Ground or Water type kills it. Hell, a Sandslash OK's it with Earthquake. And even if your slower, I'm pretty sure you get a Choice Scarf in this game, right?
@Pascll3 жыл бұрын
@@hughmann8458 I think the issue might have been that I was usually not on a pokemon effective against houndoom by the time it was sent out? I don't remember exactly though, it's been a while. choice scarf is only from the player's mom, which I think is rng? not sure, haven't looked into the mechanics that much, but I'm assuming it's random. either way, I eventually turned her off since not having half of my money was causing some issues with items, I couldn't buy much. I wasn't doing a nuzlocke anyway so it didn't really matter whether I got items like a choice scarf or not.
@jannik86902 жыл бұрын
Gen 2:/Gold/Silver Will gets swept by Ampharos with thunderpunch and firepunch with bitterberry, also by the gyarados everyone gets Koga gets swept by sudowoodoo with rock slide and earthquake or a graveler Karen is kinda hard but you can juggle her mons if u have good pivots, she really doesnt hit that hard imo Bruno is kinda scary bc he has ok coverage and his mons do dumb dmg... But a psychic type really helps Lance is suprisingly meh, a piloswine or a quagsire with ice punch really fuck him up bc thunder is the best move his 2 lvl 47 dragonites have.
@tundracaller69053 жыл бұрын
definitely the hardest thing about fighting olivia is beating her with one hand
@10ones3 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@MayHugger3 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@KirbTheKirby3 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@appleonshoe8453 жыл бұрын
based
@MayHugger2 жыл бұрын
@@appleonshoe845 By definition, no.
@teacupkoala175 Жыл бұрын
Aaron's Drapion is real scary in BDSP. He buffed the crit chance a lot so the Sniper ability can take you down. If he crits, a pokémon will likely die
@GrapesAuto Жыл бұрын
facts😢 i needed a lvl 70+ to beat his drapion. then i lost to cynthia at the final battle😢😢😢 on her last pokemon 😢
@fraz49093 жыл бұрын
I defo agree with Steven in top tier. Mega metagross made me use an embarrassing amount of healing items
@Zthewise3 жыл бұрын
I just finished an Emerald hc run. If you don't have an electric type I can see Wallace being an issue. I had an Electrode so he was a cake walk.
@ray00643 жыл бұрын
Yep that was me a week ago the only mon on my team that knew an electric type move was my alakazam that had shock wave. It went down to his whischash EQ then I foolishly let his Gyarados set up three dragon dances. Then he Hyper beam swept me
@hiei493 жыл бұрын
It probably depends on level caps. Without overleveling any non beaten e4 member and only using non farmed rare candies, i can say wallace is pretty hard. His Milotic was impossible to kill. I had Ludi, but milo could easily stall the 8 giga drains and i needed to save for whishcash (i accidently overleveled my manectric and i lost tenta before e4, rip). I ended up losing 5 mons against him and i won with my ludi thanks to a crit. As i said again, it probably depends on level caps and weather you can stall out Milo or 2hko it before it can start spamming recover Steven is also pretty hard, but your starter can contribute in beating metagross much more than what it can do against most of Wallace mons (except sceptile ofc).
@ilianplompen99753 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I also just finished an hc Emerald Nuzlocke and Wallace indeed can be a bit tedious without electric types. I had to use a tbolt Gyarados. But then I got lucky and could sweep with Ddance Return on Gyara, so it depends... I actually also did the post game Steven fight, which was pretty damn hard as well
@LordLucario122 жыл бұрын
Same here, except I used it for his first two Pokémon, lured Whiscash in, and then used it as setup bait for Gyarados
@Tylericous3 жыл бұрын
Gen 8 is pretty easy but Leon is surprisingly hard. It’s actually well built like wtf the game is baby easy then a good champion
@intergalactic92 Жыл бұрын
That’s because of the sudden level spike. It’s like they built him around the assumption that the exp share would be op and over level your pokemon….. but nobody else in the game is.
@PokeMario-pk4ot Жыл бұрын
No wonder he's the undefeated champion
@Quetzal00358 Жыл бұрын
I beat Leon in my Sword Nuzlocke earlier this year with only two Pokemon surviving. Genuinely thought I wasn't gonna win
@aydenator27 Жыл бұрын
took me 3 attempts to beat him, but i sweeped through literally everything else in the game. (it was my first pokemon game)
@bigsammichthoughts Жыл бұрын
I agree with this. He’s still not the hardest champion, but I did lose to him my first time. Pretty tough fight.
@christopherhodges76072 жыл бұрын
Jan: I can't think of any threats on Kogas team. Me: Has self destructing Wheezing flashbacks
@veenadayma6514 Жыл бұрын
God I hate his Kamikaze Koffings and Weezings.
@Kronos3273 жыл бұрын
„The hardest thing about the Olivia fight is uhm…“ We all know what he meant 😏
@AkosSam3 жыл бұрын
Her rock type Pokemon. What else could he mean? 🙄
@ordinarylittlebastard32483 жыл бұрын
To be honest... I'm so happy to see someone else that thinks that Iris is harder than Steven.
@bvd_vlvd3 жыл бұрын
I think Iris is harder than Cynthia tbf Imagine having life orb/sheer force instead of sitrus berry/no ability
@ordinarylittlebastard32483 жыл бұрын
@@bvd_vlvd I don't really think that.Maybe she is harder in Challenge Mode,but I don't know.
@ToonCaliOfGreatness3 жыл бұрын
It's probably because many people see "Oh, she just has dragon types. I can probably sweep with a Vanilluxe or something" and not realize how bulky and strong her pokemon actually are.
@greyscaleadaven3 жыл бұрын
@@ToonCaliOfGreatness Plus she's literally got two checks to ice types in lapras and aggron built into her team. Archeops can outspeed and KO any ice type easily as well. water is actually her biggest counter bc it resists most of her STABs or is supereffective and most water types get an ice type move.
@cuongquoc58773 жыл бұрын
@@greyscaleadaven Correction, Fighting is Iris biggest counter, all 3 of her mons are weak to fighting and if you get a Lucario then you will likely have a counter for 4 of her mons. The Durigon is weak overall stat wise but with life orb and sheer force, it can be a problem for you team
@romenomas3 жыл бұрын
Jan is probably the best nuzlocker in the world but at the same time is probably the worst at making youtube intros
@sarracenoexiliado9513 жыл бұрын
Imo, some of these are really dependant on the resources you have to face them, like, 5 out of the 6 mons from Lance´s team drop to a water type with ice beam, which is far from being hard to obtain; a decent Blaziken can obliterate Glacia and so on. Point is, while there are arguably trainers that are inherently harder than others, the hardest of fights can be easily won if you have the right tools, while the easiest of them can suddenly become a challenge if you dont.
@Kereea3 жыл бұрын
Glacia's weaknesses really vary by Gen. She's weaker to Blaziken in gen6 when she has 2 Frosslass instead of 2 Sealeo, but in Gen3 you needed something electric to help with her.
@Slasher94853 жыл бұрын
If Ghetsis is was on this list, I think he'd go into run killer. I'm not sure if this was my own experience when I played white 1, but I feel like that Hydreigon can give Cynthia's Garchomp a run for its money. It's coverage is just so insane.
@marvinkant5205 Жыл бұрын
Well this aged badly lol.
@Kereea3 жыл бұрын
I struggled with Acerola in my moon Nuzlocke. Also having Grimsly with his Moxie Scrafty as my final elite four in my first ever White run was hard. I think Glacia should have been higher than Drake. You can ice beam everything but the Kingdra for Drake, easily.
@intergalactic92 Жыл бұрын
I swear that (pre-gen 5) the first 2 E4 members are not supposed to be tricky. They’re just appetisers, softening you up before the main event. The difficulty comes from the fact you have already been weakened by the first 2. In many ways, choosing the order to fight them reduces their impact as now they all offer the same levels, and do not scale.
@AlbRomano3 жыл бұрын
I fell openly attacked. Yesterday I managed to finally beat my BW hardcore nuzlocke and Zoroark just cant sweep on it's own Shauntal's team cuz they are too bulky to be one shot with night slash. And most pokemon are absolutely scared of Chandelure's Fire Blast, bar Flash Fire Chandelure, wich you may not get. Anyways, good video and good luck to anyone nuzlocking out there, may the crits be ever in your favour.
@greyscaleadaven3 жыл бұрын
I agree, Shauntal's team is deceptively bulky, especially when you lack options outside of zoroark to deal with her, which gets knocked over by a light breeze.
@lime-limelight2 жыл бұрын
@@greyscaleadaven you can set up on her first Pokemon and then sweep easily. That's what I did atleast
@greyscaleadaven2 жыл бұрын
@@lime-limelight Fair but not when you get willoed, gotta have a way of dealing with that if you're going physical sweeper. I'd say bisharp or mandibuzz do this well bc they wall her coverage but you really lack options outside of that in specifically BW.
@hollowayraulie1422 Жыл бұрын
I found them all way more challenging than I found the gen 4 elite four like I have no idea how those can be considered mostly free and gen 4 aren’t
@firedell10312 жыл бұрын
Imagine how much higher the Gen 4 members would be if this was the BDSP versions.
@ciaosonoAlbertoG3 жыл бұрын
Sorry PC if I comment on yt, but I just lost a emerald nuzlocke against the champ and I feel really dumb. Also playing on cardridge so I gotta grind at normal speed :(
@hiei493 жыл бұрын
Wallace is pretty hard, specially if you are underleveled.
@timgonzales28913 жыл бұрын
The gen 6 e4 was insane how easy it was I've never seen anything like that. Even the garbage levels of johto, are harder than kalos e4
@preyingshark48783 жыл бұрын
Gen 7's bosses, including the E4/Champion, are EV Trained so that is where the difficulty can come from there. Still not too bad overall though.
@emeraldjayent24033 жыл бұрын
Well it's obviously Trace, he has 3 moves on all his pokemon1!1!11!
@HIHi-dd9yx3 жыл бұрын
HEY
@FiboSai3 жыл бұрын
If you have the type advantage, most of the fights are free. Only the ones that have good type coverage don't fold to you having super effective moves against their type. I think it would be more interesting to tier the fights assuming you don't just have a pokemon that sweeps their team, or you should at least try to reason why you should have a sweep available to justify them being free. For instance, Caitlyn is definitely not free if you don't have strong super effective moves. Her team is very bulky and hits really hard. Compare this to Koga from gen 2, whose entire team can't deal any damage to you and the only threat is double team spamming.
@jaspernemo18252 жыл бұрын
I think that it would be weird to rank it that way. In Gen5 you get easy access to some really good dark-types, like scrafty, krookodile, zoroark, drapian or even ghost-types like chandelure, jellicent and cofagrigus. Making it extreemly likely that you have some kind of awnser for Caitlyn. On the other hand, you have like steven's metagross which in Gen3 has almost no answers, because even the available fire and ground types kinda suck and can't deal with it or are unlikely to encounter. In a vacuum Caitlyn would be pretty good or even a run-killer in Gen3, but in Gen5 she is way easier to deal with. I don't think she is free, some of her pokemon are kind of scary and have some great coverage, but you just get so many options.
@IllusionaryFuneral2 жыл бұрын
On my first vanilla playthrough of Moon, I actually found the game to be kind of hard because I never bothered with the Super Training mechanic. As a result, I went into the Elite 4 under leveled by 10 levels average. Kahili in particular was especially tough, especially that stupid Toucannon. It took me 15 tries to beat her. I was embarrassed that I lost to Guzma at the Aether foundation at least 7 times, considering that he’s a joke character.
@Suavamente Жыл бұрын
How do you get vanilla moon?
@olivierdubreuil-gagnon22012 жыл бұрын
Lucian is so forgettable to me but somehow I always find him to be a struggle. It’s weird.
@agent59813 жыл бұрын
15:58 this flew over everyone's heads didn't it XD thanks for the laugh, instant sub
@gambitscard6882 Жыл бұрын
I lost my BDSP Nuzlocke to Cynthia, and then planned insanely for my second one, and wound up sweeping her with an Absol (Swords Dance, Sucker Punch, and Focus Energy + super luck ability)
@bluegg9962 жыл бұрын
I think Leon it’s honestly free, as long as your playing the game as intended. His team is really fucking strong, but by the time you get there your Pokémon will be 10-15 levels above his so you can just sweep with whatever sword dance thing you have, and this happens even in normal (not hardcore) nuzlockes
@r00kie362 жыл бұрын
Can we just talk about how this tier list was created with Cynthia on top before they gave her flame orb Milotic and fucking SD Garchomp?
@Amelia41112 жыл бұрын
No more swearing please!
@teacup45613 жыл бұрын
This tier list slowly devolved into deciding the horniest character designs
@flareardiente4342 жыл бұрын
During one of my nuzlockes, Cynthia's garchomp wasnt really a threat, took care of it with little struggle. The problem was her lucario. Her spiritomb crit my main attacker for her pretty hard at the start so i couldnt set up without losing it, letting her lucario set up instead practically wipe me with aura sphere.
@SirRias Жыл бұрын
As much as I love Wallace, I am genuinely surprised he was in tough tier. Also surprised they used his ORAS art and not his champion art.
@nishant9289 Жыл бұрын
He's definitely tough. It's difficult to setup on almost his every Pokémon in a hardcore nuzlocke barring Whiscash, and crit at any moment can wreck you. Especially with a stupid double team spamming Ludicolo, and a Milotic with an amazing moveset, and a dragon dancing Gyarados, Wallace can easily trip you over if you are unprepared.
@usmanya51102 жыл бұрын
I think Cynthia should differentiated to three different versions. Her DP team I think should be low S tier as her AI is pretty stupid while her PT team is a run killer. But her BDSP team is the ultimate run killer. You have to plan alot and put a ton of investment on EVs and IVs on your team.
@marvinkant5205 Жыл бұрын
That is a good point.
@Sami8s3 жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting to play a tripple threat sort of ROM with the three run killers in a random order or something
@colinvandenberg34463 жыл бұрын
If you get RNG'd into a Kukui that uses the Stealth Rock/Whirlwind strat, he can give you trouble.
@maxs.1030 Жыл бұрын
I SOMEHOW first tried Iris on a recent playthrough by spamming coil on serperior and using leaf blade
@funi51533 жыл бұрын
My dude I was here since 10k lol, you have grown so much so fast, and getting sponsored. Congats!
@shiuerus2 жыл бұрын
This was before the craziness which is BDSP Cynthia. *Again, just to reiterate* : This was *_BEFORE_* we knew of the Yache Barry Swords Dance Garchomp, Marvel Scale Flame Orb Milotic and Wise Glasses Timid Nature Special Attacker Lucario team of BDSP Cynthia.
@pyrosianheir3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little surprised Leon is as high as he is, specifically because you can just prep for him specifically, without worrying about any others.
@BEAUPREx3 жыл бұрын
well dont forget hes probably talking about set mode, so you cant switch all the time and tbh all his pkms hits like semi truck and cinderace or rillaboom dont even have their new ability
@Kittycat7070-3 жыл бұрын
I went to leon not knowing any of his team members and the dragapult almost wiped my team, shuckle came in clutch
@danbotspooner50813 жыл бұрын
lol Jan literally lost to Leon on his first run. Leon being such a huge level spike even after getting Eternatus is the main reason. Even on his second winning attempt he cheesed it with a Dragon Dance Gyarados which he specifically made Aegislash weak enough so Gyarados could set up on it.
@ordinarylittlebastard32482 жыл бұрын
His Charizard covers all of its weaknesses, Dragapult outspeeds any Pokémon and hits really hard, Aegislash can be pretty tough if you use a glass cannon mon... It's pretty hard in my opinion. Not super hard like Cynthia or Iris though.
@RealShades72 жыл бұрын
@@ordinarylittlebastard3248 Tbh Leon is just as hard as those two
@rosh2003 жыл бұрын
The persona music makes me happy
@FreetStighter3 жыл бұрын
Caitlin and Shauntal are very decent, they pack a mixture of fast attackers and bulky mons that make it hard to sweep them if you don't bring dedicated sweepers.
@hughmann84583 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is the abundance of Dark and Ghost types in gen 5. At least compared to other generations. Bisharp, Krookodile, Scrafty, Mandibuzz, Cofagrigus, Golurk, Chandelure, etc.
@nishant9289 Жыл бұрын
@@hughmann8458 yup, exactly; I just completed a hardcore nuzlocke of black 2 and if you have a ghost type and dark type (I had Chandelure and Weavile), you might not even need to plan about anything. Marshall is a bit tricky, as most of his Pokémon won't die in one hit and are able to but hard (Throh, Sawk, Conkeldurr) and Mienshao is a glass canon. Iris is the only fight in the league you need to plan quite thoughtfully.
@smoxch5444 Жыл бұрын
Cynthia is a run killer, regardless of if it’s a nuzlocke. I also remember back when HGSS came out, Lance gave me a lot of trouble.
@Straddllw2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Gen 9 gets more difficult like Gen 4-5.
@LoneDewott2 жыл бұрын
I've beaten both champions Steven (og sapphire) and Cynthia (platinum) in nuzlockes of mine, and let me just say that they are both HARD. I struggled much more with Cynthia, but I can see how Steven is S as I bet he's even harder in ORAS
@alexanderst.79933 жыл бұрын
Jan couldn't even think of an intro starter before. I'm so proud for him :)
@zacharyjames41212 жыл бұрын
I just thought gen 1 Lance was harder. The physical special split really was a game changer. Aerodactyl and hyper beam are just the goat.
@Kn0wka3 жыл бұрын
The episode where Jan is down horrendous
@blank80583 жыл бұрын
the outro broke my streak, the curse is lifted. i can touch grass now.
@KingKP963 жыл бұрын
Gen 7 characters all go up a tier imo except Hau. Like people sleep on them so hard especially if you aren't using items. Making any kind of mistake on any of them is more punishing then any other E4 member + the added threat of maybe just getting one shotted by a Z move because they do an asinine amount of damage. I've absolutely lost runs to Acerola swapping into Water Compaction Pallosand or Oliva Lycanroc counters.
@BackwardsHat3 жыл бұрын
"Pro Nuzlocker" kinda a cringe title bro. Take it easy you're just a gamer
@aztolfoz3 жыл бұрын
"I think diantha is a tough fight" My good man, may I suggest a bisharp?
@Nonaggress2 жыл бұрын
...does the Bisharp also fit into a team that has to cover 4 other trainers in extreme conditions, or did you forget this is in the context of a Nuzlocke elite 4 run
@EchoNova47692 жыл бұрын
Bertha and Flint should be in tough thanks to BDSP. And yes I'm aware this video was made 5 months ago.
@darrenhellsin81353 жыл бұрын
Gen 5 should be scaled differently imo because the version of the elite 4 he chose would be alders version and Irish version which are harder than N’s version but he didn’t use N
@remix25933 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was referring to N's version tho of the elite 4, since he mentioned Marshal only having 4 pokemon, which is only during the first run where you fight N instead, and B/W nuzlockes end at the ghetsis fight, which is why he didn't include alder, so ye, again, pretty sure he was talking about N's version, which is the first fight only
@eman71832 жыл бұрын
13:51 not me lol. I was a third grader who’s team was Chesnaught, Simisage, Gogoat, Lucario, Charizard and Talonflame.
@israelsandy30142 жыл бұрын
Funny how Stevens metagross is the Pokémon who less problems gave me
@veenadayma6514 Жыл бұрын
Yeah for me his Cradily was the most troublesome Pokémon in his team
@lumensmith97872 жыл бұрын
Lance is so hard to rank. If you have no plan he can easily end a run, but if you plan for him, most of the time you’ll beat him 0 deaths. The only real scary thing if you have an ice beam (or blizzard in gen one) sweeper is Aerodactyl hyper beam. Edit: In BD/SP Cynthia’s Lucario can be just as scary as the Garchomp if your team doesn’t have anything that outspeeds it. I lost a run to it because I over-preped for Garchomp and her Lucario completely swept my team. Her Milotic can also sweep and her other Pokémon are all capable of chipping your team down. She’s so scary:
@soulsonwheels90163 жыл бұрын
Btw, how do you hardcore nuzlocke ultra sun and moon? How did you go about imitating the matching the gym leader's number of pokemon for trials? I'm very curious about that as I want to try it haha.
@bandanaBrosDandB3 жыл бұрын
You know what Jan, I WILL get a drink
@timmyproton27403 жыл бұрын
Unlisted vid pog
@potato96hasdrowned662 жыл бұрын
Stevens Metagross: Me: E A R T H Q U A K E is solution to everything except falkner
@christopherballero8663 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it's difficult to be a strong trainer when the games are in-name fun kids. Generally being restricted to a type makes battles easy as if u have a Pokemon for that type the battles are usually easy. Kind of odd when the supposed best trainers have 4 Pokemon and sometimes the same Pokemon evolution line
@largenaq29353 жыл бұрын
Honestly the type specialisation works pretty well in the E4 because it’s a gauntlet. You only have 6 slots to beat 4 different types + a champion, which can be challenging
@greyscaleadaven3 жыл бұрын
@Ethan Halt I like the idea of dual typing for E4 personally. It's how I built my dream team E4 and it worked out pretty beautifully bc you can pick two types that cover each other perfectly and use type coverage to cover other weaknesses on the team. Restricts way less and provides a lot more variety in the types of pokemon they have.
@MrMonkey215011 ай бұрын
People always say that garchomp is easy because they just bring an ice move but to that I say, yea you was forced to bring a ice move on a pokemon that either out speeds and 1 shots it or a slower pokemon that is able to survive 1 hit and then 1 shots it. If they don’t have this then you will get fucked by it 😂
@zackwalker21723 жыл бұрын
"The hardest part of the Olivia fight is......" say it you coward!
@dream_weaver62072 жыл бұрын
Caitlins Reuniclus would like to share an unpopular opinion: that fight is always tough. So much coverage on her pokemon. You're not gonna use your dark type mch because of focust blast.
@Crupp250k3 жыл бұрын
“And Drakeee” *shows picture of Travis Scott Lol
@swigzby3 жыл бұрын
"I really suck at KZbin intros" is literally your intro.
@gogogadgetrectalpunch3 жыл бұрын
5:26 that sentence is something I never thought I’d hear in this day and age 😂 Calling a Karen hot just seems unthinkable
@hendeyjagger74893 жыл бұрын
She was a Karen before it became an insult. Atleast I think. I have no idea when that happened.
@skygazer60822 жыл бұрын
“Agatha is free” Jrose: *And I took that personally*
@bradyengland83673 жыл бұрын
Love the pokemon rescue team town theme music
@theunnamedaccount40093 жыл бұрын
Jan: Cynthia is one of the hardest champions Gyara: Allow me to introduce myself