Poker After Dark hand vs Johnny Chan- Would you fold?

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[@publicaccount1589]

You should definitely do more vids like this. You were in SO MANY cash game shows back in the day with interesting hands it's great to hear your analysis of them now.

[@DescartesRenegade]

"they come all the way from Canada to throw away straights"....That's why Gus is broke and Daniel is still at the top of the game.

[@marcoschaub8978]

Gus is broke?

[@gandhiindia1685]

You got to know when to fold. Alot if people only think about winning hands, but half of poker is making great folds.

[@groundup001]

@@gandhiindia1685 true. But there’s definitely a balance. Not saying it applies here but a lot of players play scared and because of checking back scare cards or folding good hands, they miss more out on value than they would’ve won than if they just played ABC and expect that sometimes you get coolered. Daniel’s reasoning makes perfect sense here but I really doubt most live players would have the same reasoning instead of just “I’m worried about a full house on a paired board”

[@richardkent9275]

For 7000 what's in the pot that's an instant call I hate nergrnau does this makes plays like this that are essentially good and bad pot odds I'm calling as a pro there who can reload to

[@philip6419]

@@richardkent9275 There's more to the game than stats. Chans style of play doesn't see him bluff at the turn.. it's always solid. Daniel knows this and at the turn puts him on trips.. or A4 for a straight as well [but probably not since he holds 4-4's], two-pair of A2,3 or 5.. and now a rug-yanking A. He knows Chan's solid play and this bet say's, out of the 6 ways to make a boat.. he made one of them.

[@mike990]

Daniel, you have to understand, everything you do at the Poker table conveys information.

[@mathieuringrose7960]

Yeah! You can't be all loosey goosey having a sandwich!

[@JB-tj3uy]

Did you seriously say that about Negreanu?

[@ragekidvlog8380]

really? hahahaha idiot

[@QMS9224]

yes but also at the highest level you will mainly play the percentages/tendencies and not rely on body language

[@1ZosoLZ]

Heath Anderson all he conveyed was how much coke he snorted

[@erikrichardgregory]

I’d never have folded, would have played the odds that my straight would probably win. Guess why that’s why I’m not a monster poker player. Unbelievable fold there. Perfect analysis

[@Benkkuful]

at a game against unknown players you'd always call. He only folds because he knows him too well.

[@billytringuyen1]

no, i would of call and probably guess he have triple

[@likearockcm]

that play is one of the reasons he is legend

[@themarkl0813]

Amen

[@MusikPiratCH]

Who is the legend? For me here the legend is clearly Johnny Chan (great read on Daniel's hand "Pair of four")! :D Daniel's fold saved him some money but that's "normal" at this level.

[@joshuamalik373]

Johnny didnt make any high class read here. He flopped top pair, got double pair on the turn and a full house on the river. He got very unlucky on the turn and super lucky with the river. The class play here is clearly Daniels fold.

[@MusikPiratCH]

@@joshuamalik373 Your opinion - not mine! Johnny's read was high class (even Daniel was very surprised)! :P Luck or unluck dosn't play any role on his read. It was Daniel's betting story that told Johnny what hand Daniel had! ;) Why do you think Johnny Chan got WSOP World Champion back to back? (Simply luck?)

[@MichaelS360]

@@MusikPiratCH it was not Daniel's betting story, it was his comments on the river, before he folded. He nearly said that he had a straight.

[@liamtttt6871]

Daniel you are a real legend. Most of the players would have raised or called on the river, and then blame their “bad luck”. I live in Athens Greece and I would literally travel anywhere in the world, just to take a couple of poker lessons from you.

[@robertritchey1210]

Awesome read!!! Daniel did say he has played vs Johnny many times and knows his betting tendency, which really helps out a lot in making these decisions!! Bravo Daniel!!

[@Thumper1968]

One of the few times I've seen you (on TV) call the guy's hand perfectly and then fold. :) Thanks for sharing. The hand reading displayed by both of you guys is always amazing to me.

[@preciousmetalhead5155]

10:40 my man starts having a minor stroke.

[@johnblake5112]

When Daniel talks at the table he kind of reminds me of Edward Norton in “Rounders”

[@andy.robinson]

And he uses the phrase "pay that man his money" like KGB does in the film

[@anonymous_genius]

True

[@whoshotya117]

Same

[@kevstorm3006]

I know it’s all in good fun, but there’s no way in hell that Gus would give you so much grief at the end if he knew you were correct in throwing away the straight.

[@Grassy_Gnoll]

Step One: Steal Daniel's brain. Step Two: Win money. Step Three: Return it before he wakes. Guard your brain, Daniel! Once they invent the neural interface, I'm coming for you!

[@4llenjames]

Good try but the man doesn't sleep.

[@georgejung5429]

Once they start making stuff like that it’s game over for everyone.

[@zacharydunn2222]

Daniel negreanu I love your channel keep up the great work you are an amazing ambassador to the game of poker

[@aitorjara100]

He's old, Adrian Mateos and Fedor Holz are better and younger

[@karlferguson]

More of these please mate. They are amazing.

[@grizzlywhisker]

This was such a great clip to analyze because the way the hands changed to favor each of you was incredibly interesting.

[@averagejohnson3985]

“Oh I’m sorry Johnny, I don’t remember”

[@dengster8884]

Average Johnson John instead

[@dravyablunt8219]

Rounders

[@z3my4l]

Stupid movie. Watch ”Lucky you” instead.

[@Kasuga_Pedro]

z3my4l stupid movie? Matt Damon,Edward Norton and John Malkovic? Really? Even Negreanu loves that movie

[@alexanderpwnd]

Damn your content is so good brother, this hand actually got me nervous.

[@OldieBones]

Good read by Johnny Chan too at the end of the hand.

[@youtubecomments5951]

At that point it was obvious. Daniel basically let it be known

[@HIPPEYJONEZ]

Thanks for the breakdown Daniel, i love the insight on what you guys are thinking during these hands. Sometimes we see moves but don't understand the story that you are playing in your mind on the calls or folds. Thanks

[@harrisondarby1333]

Is this right after Borat came out? You said “Wa-wo-wee-wa” three times.

[@amapolishplummer]

WAWOWEEWA

[@powerstuffup]

Maybe he had just seen it

[@bthekuta]

Negreanu, after watching your daily WSOP videos, I must say you have quite an impressive beard!!!

[@OldieBones]

I was rooting for him to win a bracelet and shave that beard, despite the fact that he looks cooler with it.

[@SilverShrimpTX]

Daniel is wearing a nice pink shirt, what a cutie pie

[@itzjunk3456]

Ben Ikuta his pubes are great too

[@rubixmantheshapeshifter1769]

Ben Ikuta very smart guy too

[@rubixmantheshapeshifter1769]

Jay Kenley complement another man don't make you gay ..silly boy

[@mariantsanov8834]

Probably someone made this comment already but I can't stop myself mentioning the movie Rounders 1998. Not only Jonny Chan features inspirationally in this movie but also Daniel looks and sounds so much like the character of Edward Norton, the Worm. Beside Jonny Chan here Daniel reminds me a lot of the Worm. The only difference between Daniel and the Worm is the decision making as Daniel actually plays extremely wise, more like the Matt Damon's character. Nice video!

[@NumberOneBlitz]

If I was even 10% of the poker player Daniel is I'd be able to quit my job

[@todabsolute]

I'm not being a keyboard expert, but obviously a bluff when your opponent might very well have a straight is a little awkward

[@ZephniStrife]

It's true, but the only 4 that would make sense for Daniel to have is 44s. Still, he knew Daniel had something worth value betting

[@Kafue]

Daniel...you are freakishly... bloody good. I know half/no more than half of that is your positive emotions.

[@MyfairladyZ2006]

Welcome back DNegs after a well deserved break! But I miss not having your daily Vlogs! 😭😭😭

[@mikebordeaux8218]

Glad to see you back Daniel. Keep the videos coming.

[@OvayBrandao]

Sometimes I get together with my friends and play poker. One time I literally played every hand following up Daniel's theories. Everytime I evaluated hands the way he does I was right.

[@PNorm]

Not really, if your friends aren't avid players then they won't play the same way any poker player does, they won't bet/call/raise in the same positions as these. Likely that the people you play with only play hands when their cards are good, that's pretty easy to spot.

[@ByloBand]

REALLY sick how you BOTH knew what hands you had!

[@gheffz]

Yes, it was "obvious" that Daniel had at least a 4 ... but to "know" he must of had pocket 4s... just brilliant read by JC as well !!

[@josephodonoghue-walsh843]

@@gheffz no daniel wasn't 100% sure ....but johnny was .......

[@drakedraven6961]

@@josephodonoghue-walsh843 Reason why Chan knew Daniel has 4s cause he's over explaining instead of being quiet. Daniel tends to release information when he talks which given away his hands. Daniel is great at reading hands, love the guy poker tuition. Revealing information out loud isn't a good strategy when you could just brainstorm by gathering intel.

[@fernandoyoung3066]

Perfect! I remember that episode... Classic! So funny!! Thanx Daniel.

[@mattmarkus4868]

This made so much sense. The logic points to him having A2/A3/A5 and that's pretty much it. Great read and fold.

[@swingtrade2]

Johnny's second touch of the money was enough for me to say goodbye.

[@markmnorcal]

Pay him his money.(that's a line from Rounders)

[@loucard4856]

duh

[@jonathanko1686]

good job daniel. Keeping your word and not shaving till you win an event. Put out more videos I miss my 20 min breaks watching your vids!

[@Juide80]

I'm not the biggest fan of the Dnegs bc of the things he promoted while being on the PokerStars's payroll but I'll have to give him this. That is truly knowing your opponent. Great hand, sir. Regards from Finland 🇫🇮😊👍

[@IvanPerez-dv5et]

I know this is an old Video you published, but I remember this session. I remember thinking “thats why I named my son after Negreanu!” Pure genius.

[@jamesh8654]

Reading what the other player has through the flop to the river is a mark of a great player. Amazing !

[@okapmeinkap7311]

That's why people like you, Daniel, your cool dude

[@dhavalbaxi429]

Wow that was a fantastic read! Absolutely brilliant! Even Johnny Chan guessed your hand correctly

[@MusikPiratCH]

That's the best part of this hand! This incredible read by Johnny Chan! I think this reading capability is what made Chan one of the greatest poker players ever! ;)

[@VanPebble]

Dude this is so intense...Chan goes, 'would they allow that?' 6:18....I have chills...

[@garylake1676]

Four things are interesting about this hand. Negreanu reads Chan wrong, as he cant see him acting that way with A5 off suit, he does not seem to calculate that A5 same suit is a possibility. Negreanu trys to get Chan to give him a lifeline by showing a card, (a weak request, that said, if you dont ask....). Negreanu works it out, its got to be a full house, it cant be against pocket aces. Fourth, and most importantly in my view, which could easily be lost, is that Chan, at the death read what Negreanu had quite briliantly,

[@Meatwaggon]

JUANDA STILL HAD TWIPS.

[@laartwork]

tRRRRrrips.... Indonesians roll their R's like spanish.

[@ljneubauer5786]

wow love these videos great laydown!!!!! trying to learn as much as possible from there

[@MichaelGames19]

The table talk after the river is sick. Negreanu is real good.

[@garylittle7776]

I love the rounders references in your videos ;)

[@blackjackfan58]

Daniel is so awesome. Love watching him play.

[@cullenmasters7409]

This may sound stupid cause I’m fairly new to poker but what’s a “3-bet”?

[@steve-ol7ee]

It's when somone raises after there has been a bet and a raise

[@tylermartinezmusic2798]

Love the quick rounders reference at 9:22

[@kevinhuntley2982]

Where can I get that shirt? Keep the vlogs coming DNegs! Great lay down.

[@DBZ-Mousa]

You're the best Daniel! I love seeing you play! Keep it up!

[@acepaul407]

The thought process Daniel went through was quite impressive, but don't be misled. The reason why it worked is because Johnny Chan makes very intelligent moves and obviously knows what he is doing and Daniel was able to figure him out. THIS THOUGHT PROCESS WILL NOT WORK WITH RECREATIONAL PLAYERS OR PLAYERS THAT DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

[@BenderWinsSportsBetting]

What a great lay down!! True situational awareness

[@MusikPiratCH]

What makes this hand even greater is the read by Johnny Chan: "Did you have fours?" :D Negreanu is so busy to explain his (excellent game play and fold) that he missed to mention this reading capabilities by Johnny Chan (The Orient Express)! ;) Too bad, Daniel, probably you'll never be as great as Johnny Chan!

[@riverbusty]

Probably why you are a much better player than Gus Hansen ---> he can't fold a straight but you can!!! :-)

[@gabrielrivera537]

Daniel we missed you!! Thanks for coming back. I miss the daily videos so much. Cheers brother

[@gheffz]

Brilliant fold, Daniel, brilliant! Logically what else could he have? Great poker deductive reasoning ... thanks for making poker look easy!

[@mikewaltz1820]

Amazing read. Very tough fold. Have always enjoyed watching you play.

[@jonphanspromotions]

One of my most respected players for reading ability. Good job on the fold Dan

[@MusikPiratCH]

Whos reading ability was better? Johnny knew that Daniel had a pair of four! Simply amazing! That's the reason why Johnny Chan is such a legend! :D

[@marc6157]

I think another logical and obvious reason why it made sense to fold is that there was four to a straight on the board and Johnny is good enough to know that Daniel can easily have pockets fours or some kind of four in his range. Which means he wouldn’t be doing that with ace king or just any ace. So that only leaves full houses that he would be betting for value in that spot where he knows he’s beating straights.

[@ewalltom]

It shows how important it is to have balanced ranges. Both of them were able to read the other.

[@joniraggi2358]

Dang. Dan is very very intelligent. Extremely sharp and fast brain at work here

[@tomrobson3492]

Love the vids Daniel! Would love to see a return to your podcasts! Only just found them and already through them all, need me some new listening!

[@tedfordsdrumworld910]

I have been saying it for years, Daniel is the greatest ever!!

[@cloughie1981]

Thanks for doing this, Daniel - love your vids, I wouldn't have believed poker could be so interesting but your channel and a few others have made me develop a fascination with it. You probably don't read all all these comments, however if you do can you recommend any books/websites where I can learn more, particularly concerning strategy etc? Thanks again, be nice to see you play here in Scotland someday - until then good luck!!!

[@adamboyd3944]

Great vid. Except this was a normal winner take all sit n go, not a cash game like you said. Easy mix up when you've played as many hands as you have. Look forward to the world series vlog!

[@mycommentpwnz]

When Johnny calls the 5k on the turn, you can be ASSURED he has two-pair or a set. He's not just lighting 5,000$ on fire with A-K. Essentially, If Johnny invests 5k, with a 1-liner to a straight on board, you can bet your VERY SOUL Johnny has a chance for a full-house. Furthermore, I think Johnny should have CHECKED the river. His lead, basically, turned his hand FACE-UP.....If he checked the river, and you checked behind him, now THAT would have been impressive. Frankly, it probably would have been one of the most impressive check-downs of ALL-TIME, but sadly we'll never know :(

[@milosjazic7453]

What are you talking about? This is way more impressive

[@georgestevens3134]

Enjoying the videos. Late comer. Would an all in push on the turn have been a good move? I've found when I hit the nuts and try to go for value that sometimes I end up loosing on the river!!

[@jade-sm7mg]

Really enjoyed this review! I feel like GTO theory is just slowly killing off poker for the recreationalist with advanced software etc, nice to understand Daniel's strategy and logic concluding with a superb fold!

[@TopCheese81]

Daniel assessed the situation correctly I mean AK or aq doesn't see the river unless you just call daniels raise on flop 2 float. Full house only makes sense I mean what would he be bluffing with?? Not sure if I could fold but he assessed the hand perfectly..

[@avestagp]

I was watching this hand 3 days ago and I was thinking to myself that it would be awesome if you analyzed it.

[@kevinbrown9751]

It's an AWESOME fold! I'd think someone like Chan would have the stone cold nuts or be continuation betting on a bluff, and a 'good price' on the river pretty much tells you he's nutted.I think the only REAL question is: is it a bluff that turned into trips, and he doesn't put you on the straight, really. That's why i LOVE this game!

[@moneyhoney8598]

This looks so easy while getting to know/see both player's hand on screen here. But at the table, every player would have called that, no matter what! We would have atleast make a CALL to just see the other guy's full house. But, Daniel Negreanu doesn't need to PAY someone off to see their cards! Because he is MOST of the time sure!

[@tlsddd9580]

i can get behind this Minraise-thing partwise cause of course he will check to you with maybe a small pair 66/77 etc but if he has a set i think hes probably reraising you on the flop and if he hast the straight at least valuebetting on the turn

[@lazarekalebashvili]

i missed you daneil glad you're back :)

[@stephencurran2284]

I think a lot of hands that might bluff would be combo draws that contain the 4 of diamonds so I think folding is perfectly reasonable here

[@rhino2473]

Good to see you back Daniel

[@chward8]

Yep, I would have folded as well. My radar would have been up when he stayed with me on the turn. As soon as the board paired at the very least I would be up against a set but the full house most likely.

[@coxevents1]

The "want to show a card" question & response - just fun and games, or anything to read into?

[@nathancate582]

coxevents1 Dneg was DEFINITELY fishing for information there. Looking for confidence or weakness.

[@tqlla]

I know this is old, but if you arent already doing it, I would say cover your opponents cards when you do the video. Its a lot easier to decide what we "would" do.... when we see all the cards.

[@thepurge6254]

Jackie Chan : My brother Johnny plays poker Johnny Chan : My brother Jackie plays with furnitures

[@josephdecesare4885]

I need some more Daniel in my life

[@nokturnalasmr777]

This hand is a solid example of how good it is to know you opponents game.

[@jordanb9161]

It’s wild how well Daniel understands this game. I just can’t get it, I’ll think I’ll have it then boom, I have no clue wtf is goin on. Your my favorite Daniel, I’ll keep watchin and wishin lol

[@kevenmcfarlane8115]

U have bob Marley in the back ground i am from jamaica u r the greatest poker player to me now u r a poker God

[@CalebJNelson]

I wish I could play players that are predictable like this. But then again, I can easily make money off of loose aggressive players in 1/.5 games, and off of them and tight passive players in 2/1 - 5/2. But it’s not as fun playing them because I have to play less hands. You can’t read players in this way unless they are very good.

[@BJ52091]

Not gonna lie, when I looked away from the video for a second and looked back at 1:40 just now, I could have sworn that Daniel had his hair in dreads. Then I realized that I had been coding for 18 hours straight and maybe my vision isn't the best right now. Then I realized that Daniel would look pretty awesome with dreads.

[@ThePariaah]

I think he could have 56 diamonds easily here too... make the value bet on the river to look like he wants you to call... would have worked.

[@gcarlindisciple6071]

Hey, finally a hand Daniel is qualified to comment on as an expert because any opponent who started playing after 2005 is playing a different game. Well, that and most amateurs. Remember children, MORE RAKE IS GOOD FOR YOU!!!

[@sbl9467]

I would've raised after the turn...raised big time. But people usually call with 2 pairs anyways and I would've lost at the end.

[@CP-oo8mj]

not convinced "he is not reraising me on the flop with sets/overpairs" part, but good fold

[@sonicboomers122]

I would fold if only because Ohama has trained me to worry about having the Nuts or checking before making Big plays.

[@amidamaru2534]

yy its fold against a not goofy player like johny, we just beat a bluff or an under pair that could value bet vs 2 pair? not likely at all,, since he called the turn its clear he has an A5 A2 A3 or a set , if we had checked the turn and he bet the river then we should call propably :)) thoughts?

[@amidamaru2534]

also if he had A4 he could bet blocking nuts maybe? is that a thing? i dunno :P maybe

[@TheMsTingTing]

if we had checked the turn we could have had two pair or sets in fear of the straight. and boated up otr. so if he's betting into us otr it still shows strength since we are not blocking any boat.

[@amidamaru2534]

shrimpytingting true but it could still be any Ace vbet maybe since we checked the turn an the pot is a lot smaller that's what I mean I mean check it even with this straight ofc it's not optimal I just said if :))

[@TheMsTingTing]

AmiDaMaRu yeah depends on his sizing, slight chance i might find a call otr because true, he wouldn't have put us on a straight. But it's Jonny. Considering we raised the flop, I highly doubt that he'd bet trip As otr for value. only hand makes sense that Jonny beats with As would be flopped two pair counterfeited otr. in that case, d would hardly call any bet.

[@amidamaru2534]

shrimpytingting yy true too negrebue is a good bluff catcher :D it might seemed bluff that was nice discussion :))

[@stennisl]

LOL @ Joe Ingram callout. Enjoyed the video Daniel

[@steviethomas1988]

Danie did say at 8.11 “raise with A 5 A 3 A 2 ? ... I don’t think so !” So interesting to think actually wot he put Chan on ?

[@flappy7373]

Probably not gonna fold that.. but with your history with Johnny, I guess I might? History is worth gold when it comes to making decisions like that..

[@azquiru]

Daniel i missed you thanks for the free content man!

[@nismo1348z]

But GTO has you folding this hand....so you did play GTO. You said it right, the only hand that makes any sense to be bluffing is 56 of diamonds. That the only non full house hand that gets to the river as played.

[@georgejung5429]

Everyone in this situation gets the feeling they’re beat (good players) yet still call, the art to being a good poker player is knowing when to fold them.

[@yanati9170]

00:22 damn that tom dwan burn....

[@Hellsslave666]

Did you just do coke or did you have a legitimate cold?

[@dnegspoker]

Haha have never in my life done coke!

[@BenjaminMazs]

Yeah it's a real illness. I think it's called Columbian Flu?

[@dessstro601]

I heard a story from viffer doing all kinds of drugs and you were on it. I doubt he is lying.

[@filobrosgolf]

Leaving out the "I" is clever. This KID is a student.

[@CraigPriestley]

respect Daniel.