POLARIS BUYERS GUIDE | STAR CITIZEN

[@mikegilkey]

I just hope they have an option with the RAMPs to just have an option to open the doors WITHOUT the ramps extending. You don’t need ramps in space or if you land in a hostile area. It just needs 2 buttons. An easy fix to make it better.

[@planetwally]

Brilliant idea to have some form of snub craft in that rear engineering area, instead of all that wasted space there... regarding the coolant water floating away when gravity generator is off, perhaps the reason the ground there is using the cargo grid texture is because that keeps the liquid at ground level always. My biggest gripe with the Polaris is there is not one window of any kind on this ship, I get the torpedo submarine feel, but really could use some windows really anywhere.

[@midriffzero]

In ww2 subs torpedos where aimed(bearing and depth set) and fired from the torpedo room. Today subs use various methods of computer aiming and can be launched from the bridge but still can be aimed and launched manually from the torp room. TO me this layout makes sense because the guy firing the torps is right there to see if they have more torps in the cargo hold and with the tractor beam he could reload himself if needed cutting down on the min number of crew to run the ship. Although it is weird for a military ship to not have a redundancy for firing the main armament

[@planetwally]

The two top turrets are actually quad S4

[@xSparkyX188]

You guys hit so many of my peeves with this ship! Cargo lift>Ramps, Extra Torpedo loading steps, why can't launch them from bridge, behind hangar/engineering is a mess, no storage for food, tiny shuttle craft (parasite) for crew, and others. I hope they change this stuff, but there really isn't monetary incentive for them to once a ship is deemed complete. The carrack interior 'feels' so much more livable.

[@danny1988221]

ok so about the pods. it's not a waste of space because the extra space in the hallway is to individually move aside while a crew is still running back and forth also an escape boat would also not make sense you are not evacuating civilians; the crew would be individual evacuations as stations are not needed or shut down gradually.

[@Crivicus]

I think the reason they didn't go for an elevator cargo bay is that it would create a massive weak spot underbelly

[@mattgreen2082]

As a sub guy, I can confirm that the torpedo room is where you load and fire the torpedo's. In control, they develop a firing solution and give the order. So it's fairly realistic in that sense. I do agree though, subs have a CO/XO Stateroom. It's odd that there is only a CO's room. The mess hall is also odd. We don't use chairs. We use benches, 100% what Ese mentioned.

[@prinnybob87]

The 2 person rooms are more like officers quarters, the enlisted are more like a big group of 80 bunks in one room

[@Luidgi509]

So was watching this on the tv and my Google home just gave me the weather over there automatically hahah. By using your voice😂

[@jet_flyer]

A lot of the angles are just RSI styling but you could add some hand-waivium and say that it's to help with internal shrapnel dispersion or something

[@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637]

The only reason i upgraded my Corsair all the way up to a Polaris, was simply because i wanted to be at the Pinnacle of the combat loop. I want to have a ship that will ALWAYS be relevant in ERT Bounty missions, one that can take on ships bigger than itself. A ship that can do a lot of things. It just ticks all of those boxes for me :)

[@InTVS]

having tons of ladders that are not enclosed will expose the entire ship to decompression by a single deck being breached, the armory is there because of game mechanics, is as far as the boarding points as possible to the defending players can keep control of the weapons until the last moment, thats also why it has so many bulkheads, to slow down boarding teams, but it needs more cameras and internal turrets

[@danhoffman9242]

The height difference in the hanger is to contain fuel spills. Agree with all the points brought up

[@codyfox2876]

The hangar doesn't have a "raised" edge. The edge is the same height as the main floor of the ship on that level. Instead, the middle section of the hangar is lowered, specifically to add more height so bigger ships can fit in it. When people are nitpicking this much it causes these kinds of oversights on what is clear design intention.

[@mikegilkey]

Polaris Use: Solo cargo running / bounty hunting / bunkers. Fly it around and Have fighters to do the hunting from the hangar. The defense turrets can help protect the ship and fighters.

[@jaymayhem8346]

Was ESE army or something? I was 22 years Air Force and an aircraft maintainer (recently retired) and a lot of his points are off on the way military aircraft are designed. Maybe thats the way the Army crafts were done but Air Force wasn't and sometimes Naval craft as well but then again there could be some crafts that were like he was describing. I hate when people say "MILITARY" and think all the branches do and design things the same way. Like 34:10 where he is talking dual purpose vehicles and manufactures dont change design is wrong ( I work for Lockheed) and we change designs all the time not too much is reused, and benches vs chairs because you are fully kitted with gear, Ummm the Air Force doesn't use a lot of benches because we are not fully geared especially in an aircraft like that UNLESS that specific role for that vehicle requires it. The Polaris is not a transport troop dropper like that and people would not be running around the ship fully geared, there would be no purpose unless you were being boarded.

[@jet_flyer]

yeah, the AC-130 and L-100 are very different, even if they share similar base structure and aren't too different in performance

[@mattp1337]

The point of the hologlobe station is so that this ship can be a flagship and host a fleet admiral (or equivalent strategic role), no? It's less equipped and capable than the C&C suite in the back of the Idris' bridge, sure, but we would want a variety of ships that can serve as flagships.

[@shaneduc]

Locial defense of the Endeavor and BMM

[@xinleitang-o3h]

I love to see them do a idris interior review with this guy.

[@hbutler2]

For the overly open spaces like the escape pods it feels like they were trying to make a movie set more than a functional ship. Plus the weird wastes of spaces that they put in in other areas like the stairs/elevators is another thing that can temporarily take me out of the game when I look at it. To me they could replace some of those places with some rooms that make sense on a ship like this. Put in a smaller version of the jump room that the Anvil Liberator has for example. Make it a life boat style escape pod too intended for any lawful guests that will be in the ship. Limit the size of armor that the seats will be able to use to limit scope creep of the ship. For the hangar, I appreciate that the vertical space is cutoff. I feel like it is a reasonable attempt to push towards fighters to be placed in the hangar. I think the only fighters that don't fit vertically are alien fighters. That makes logical sense. Its big enough for a hull-a to do your logistics in the hangar and I feel like if you want more at once it is reasonable to force you to have a larger ship park next to you and use the cargo doors.

[@Thraldorin]

The top turret guns are Quad Size 4 not Size 5.

[@wildphilpresents]

In my understanding and the feel of this ship..it feels more like a command ship than the pitched "combat/blockade" ship. The nicer bunks, mess hall, etc all scream "officer gathering." Like this is the Admiral's ship and it's full of vetted commanders planning the battle for the Idris, Javelin, Hammerheads, etc. All of the accommodations are a step above the "grunt" level stuff. Essentially not a front-line ship, sits in the back surrounded by more combat-based ships and grunt ships. That being said, why the cargobay and ramp? They don't make sense with the rest of the ship unless it's for fleet resupply. The ship is designed to basically seem like it isn't meant to land planet-side.....except the ramps. The ramps are the only hint that it should land and not be a space-only vessel. Even the large bottom turret hints at orbital or sky bombardment cannon and contradicts the whole cargo/ramps layout. Also, was it just me or was execute very short and terse with everyone on this episode. Almost like he was irritated with everyone. Hope all is well man.

[@Hot4Shrek]

I like the ramp on the Polaris because it reminds me of Star Destroyer Dorito styling 😂

[@captainharlock3998]

I disagree on one point, I absolutely think the Polaris is perfect as a generalist ship. The evil twin of the Odyssey if you want. I also think it's a perfect ship to take out alone if you are like me, someone with a single ship, Polaris is a SOLID contender, paired with whatever you want that fits in the hangar. I know that myPolaris is my Arcadia, my base, my home and everything in between. But this was a great video, keep up the good work guys!

[@Sarsour_]

Algared is always a pleasant character and full of info!

[@RahzZalinto]

Over 10 years in the army and I never considered if we should have benches or not lol. Then again, I never really dealt with ships, or too many vehicles for that matter. :P

[@The-Rusty-Pigeon-Gamingchannel]

I think they talked on the cooling liquid in the Q&A orso. Its flooting proof 😅

[@thrashjf83]

Are we ever going to get to name ships again or has that just kind of died off? We were told some corsairs could have names, then all would get names, that never came true, and now they drop the Polaris and it can't be named.

[@ufeelinselfrighteous8470]

i bought one a long time ago, still trying to figure out what im supposed to do with it?

[@dragofire5063]

Cig should use GDW Traveller RPG ship design and highguard rules

[@inforunners]

Now that's calling up an old school RPG, which I thought was pretty cool back in the day). -Al

[@dragofire5063]

@@inforunners most of the GDW space games have great design guidelines for spacecraft, something CIIG has been missing since day one, old in the early days many off us asked CIIG if they had one and if they would share it to the community, that never fgo answered, but over the years i became very clear there isn't one, things like component sizes not be consistent and other things that should be identical through all ships that isn't like you mentioned in this video about the elevator call panels. back in 2015 a few of us even made an basic design concept based of mass and size points per 1000 kg of mass (similar to how GDW limited what could be mounted to the ship by its mass) to allow for allocation of said points for hardpoints, component slots, cargo, fuel and crew stations, and as size off component slots and hardpoints increased they had an bell curve to their cost. We tested this out against a number of first release kickstarter ships and the figures worked.

[@recce3922]

Real man flys drake

[@Digable.]

Execute triggered my Google to answer the question lol

[@555Buddy5555]

Buyers guide Confused is it for sale???

[@inforunners]

It is more the deep dive, evaluation of the ship.. Exe and I were talking the other day about possibly changing the "buyiners guides" to more of a ship scrutiny. I think it was after recordig this one because we thought it wasnt really a "buyers guide". -Al

[@555Buddy5555]

And it is for sale

[@inforunners]

@@555Buddy5555 Buyers guides are for once a ship is out. Exe

[@Sandgroper-WA]

The real question is why does the Polaris dock on the starboard side of the ship? Come on CIG.. its called the "port" side for a reason.

[@inforunners]

It doesnt have a stear-board, so it doesnt matter :) I know it niggles though right? -Al

[@schoolboymafia]

The Torpedo room is based on WW2 bombers that, as we all.know, didn't have their bomb controls in the cockpit, but in a room underneath.

[@Fire-Bound]

First!

[@scottknowles9656]

On a navy ship you don't fire anything from the bridge of a ship, it's all done from the ops room, the bridge is for piloting and visual spotting only.

[@kuzerov2123]

POLARIS BUYERS GUIDE: Just DON"T.

[@alwayssearching4760]

Nothing but disappointments with the polaris

[@andreasliveras6]

Please consider the effects of armor being implemented and the Polaris only having the chin turret that can damage large armored ships. Also the fact that torps are only to finish already soft dead ships - Polaris is trash ultimately. Fun at the moment though.

[@bolla999999999]

Well it`s a patroll ship, it is not trash just because it fills a different role than a ship of the line. The whole point of the corvette program was to have a ship that could stay light on its feet and not having to take direct fights. And Idris is so slow that it has no choise other than brawl, but a Polaris can just say nop and leave.

[@XShadowAngel]

"Also the fact that torps are only to finish already soft dead ships" That's...not really the "fact" or the intent, though.

[@andreasliveras6]

It is the currently is fact, you cannot even dumb fire without enemy pdcs blowing torps up in ur face. Cig have made it clear torps are no longer a first strike weapon and can only be used once the enemy targets pdcs and turrets are disabled... at this point the enemy ship is no longer a threat.​@@XShadowAngel

[@andreasliveras6]

​@@bolla999999999 a patrol ship that only has 1 turret that can damage armored and large ships +? It is a very under armed and weak ship once armor and real combat vessels are introduced. The Polaris is just a torp boat in a game where torps are designed to kill already disarmed/disabled enemies, extremely dumb.

[@bolla999999999]

​@@andreasliveras6 Yes Patroll boats don`t generally have anti battleship/cruicer weapons except maybe missile and torpedos, the main weapon of a "corvette" is speed. (Even the older patroll boats would at most have a single 76MM cannon, and this is considdered highly impractical for its role today) Even having that dual size 6 is more than what was originally intended for the Polaris. It is armed for its role and function. If you want a slow gunboat then you can get the perseus, but you will not be able to pick your fights with that ship. I really don`t see your problem, the Polaris came out exactly like it was advertised. If you were expecting a brawler then that is on you for having unreasonable expectations.