POLE BARN PROBLEMS FIXED FOR GOOD!!!

We found some major problems with this pole barn build. The poles were not put deep enough into the ground for our local frost level. We ended up using some 2" Polystyrene foam board to frost protect the foundation.

[@BillyLapTop]

This worksite was loaded with problems that needed solving for sure. It is a shame they didn't get it right the first time. Has to be a costly situation. Glad you came in there and figured out the repairs. Lots of hard work, lots of details to be considered. Job looks great now. You guys are true professionals.

[@peterparsons7141]

Always seems to be an ongoing battle when a building foundation isn’t well done. It’s such a big problem finding good contractors to do foundation work in my area. Many, many guys doing Foam block, not sure how many building will be having problems for the next 50 years. Thanks for sharing these vids, helps keep me informed so I can ask the right question, and follow the work as it progresses!

[@russellgilson4072]

Bondo your experience level on the jobsite is impressive, quality work!

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks Russell

[@Nonsense62365]

Great job Bondo Team! Glad 🙂 you’re professional! It makes a huge difference! Keep up the great work!

[@adambradley8645]

Great work bondo, it's annoying when a customer gets poor work done and you have to rectify it. It's very common here in England. I've put right more than one job where crap work has been done. Great film as always. Atb to you and biscuit 👍🙂

[@scotthultin7769]

My personal preference would not have been to build that close to the water Top of a hill where you can overlook all the floods that happened in the past as where I would rather be😊

[@josephrottina1901]

Looking good brother great job.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@jameschupp2230]

Wow, that is shaping right up! Looks tons better!

[@marioescanuelas8167]

Great job especially considering what you started with.

[@wingman8447]

I guess you did fix a lotta stuff. Looks great! Thank you

[@jamescohn4268]

You guys do great work. Really know your stuff. Tradecraft perfected.

[@chipmiller9074]

Awesome transformation

[@tracymankey9314]

Beautiful job love your pride that’s gone now days

[@jairamragbir437]

thanks for the peace in you heart to make thing better.🙏🌹🇹🇹

[@wf7183]

You Da man Ron!!!! Keep up the excellent work.

[@bondobuilt386]

thank you

[@daveanderson2865]

Cool design by the homeowner. Great job making their dream come true. P.s homeowner - remove the step in front of the boathouse. You will find yourself using it as a pathway to the water. It just flows better.

[@Nonsense62365]

This Jobsite is a CF! Thank goodness for the Bondo Team!

[@garybarkley2286]

Nice job they are lucky to of had ya fixing it all the right way as much as ya can fix but it’s going to look 👀 nice when ya get the pour done have to show us what it like when ur doing it thanks for the video and again nice work guys that goes out to all the guys ya have working for ya

[@user-ix4dl1dy7q]

Looking good

[@csehszlovakze]

nice job indeed!

[@jeffkenyon7084]

Those posts are well centered on the sona tubes the ones next to your retaining wall

[@HeathenGeek]

Noop. . . that bloke Biscuit is supposed to go 'beep, beep, beep' when the BobKitten is going backwards! 😁

[@thewayidoit8895]

If your columns aren't below the 48" frost line you simply raise the frost line! Would have been cheaper and easier to do it right at first but you sure make it look good in the end. Wish a guy like you did my garage floor. I had a local hack that cheated.

[@jakeschisler7525]

You guys did an outstanding job there. Must have been some bad communication on the posts to end up like that.

[@Nonsense62365]

My question to the homeowner! did you have an architect and structural engineer provide plans? I have a feeling that this is the first home they’ve ever had built for them. It’s obvious that they have very little knowledge of building structures or zero knowledge they should’ve hired a foreman.

[@aaronbrown3573]

I know it wasn't your crew responsible, those tubes are ridiculous. Who the heck thought that was even close to a good idea. Big 6x6. On a 8" pad and way off center. Crazy. That's what happens when you try and get slick and dig your tubes first. I would at least formed a box around them after the fact and dowel new concrete box to the tube. Just can't believe someone walked away from that. Or got paid to do that. Craziness.

[@bondobuilt386]

Ya it was pretty bad. LOL

[@johnreilly9748]

Damn, lots of extra work but well done Bondo and crew! Is that the little salmon river?

[@peterzhang8760]

the posts are underground between the curbs, should the posts rest on top of the curbs which are poured continuously without wood posts in beteween?

[@n8wrl]

Non-professional question here: Why are the blocks stacked that way? Why not stagger them like I've seen you do with cement blocks or bricks?

[@NoName-ml5yk]

Should have paid for an engineer for this one. Those Simpson brackets aren't rated for what you're using them for and you have encapsulated wood in porous concrete. Next time use Midwest perma- column Sturdi-Wall brackets and top of your sonotubes skip the stem wall. Stronger, less work, and cheaper. Consult with an engineer on the specifics. On the plus side you were correct that the posts should have only been sitting on concrete not surrounded by it. For those that don't know the concrete below the post is only there to support the weight of the building. Also buried posts used for permanent foundations are required to be UC4B or better to avert massive rot and termite damage. UC4B is not typically carried in big box stores. Not the clearest videography but those posts do not appear to be UC4B.

[@YAWN....]

Bla bla bla bla bla...

[@Methodical2]

I can't tell is the 2x6 PT wood on top of the block foundation and foam? If not, why not?

[@scotthultin7769]

First 👍's up BB thank you for sharing

[@absolutetorquetuning7956]

May i ask why the chimney block instead of regular construction block cmu?

[@jessiperry60]

you dont have to wrap the poles before the concrete was poured ?

[@chrismiesner6973]

Nice

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank you

[@art1muz13]

So what was the 1st clue that someone had to get rid of the hacks???

[@RJM1011]

Well done ! The others before you must still be on Bud Light ??

[@bondobuilt386]

LMAO I think so. 🤣😂

[@garenpletzer1532]

Did you just leave the seams in the foam then?

[@jamestrinh867]

👍👍👍

[@glenlongstreet7]

Just because somebody tells you they know what they are doing, doesn't mean they know what they are doing. Let the buyer beware. No problem, I can do that for half the price.(:

[@briankemp2362]

Always an awesome job by BONDO. Doing the job right. Nice. The Governor

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks Governor

[@robertcantaral2959]

Would a six inch thick slab versus four be worth the xtra cost in a radiant heated crawlspace .

[@bondobuilt386]

I do not think for a crawl space I would do it.

[@Justme-sb8mn]

You do nice work. Still didn’t solve frost issues but it all looks nice

[@Cameron-ur2tk]

At what point is it better/ easier to just pour a regular footer / stem wall first and set your metal brackets for pole barn or frame it normally?

[@bondobuilt386]

Yes hindsight I am sure he would have had me build him a frost protected stem wall with slab on top.

[@correctednews1463]

Whats to keep your knee wall from heaving up in winter. You said frost code was 48", yes? Doesn't look like your walls are thst deep.

[@bondobuilt386]

We have the foam for frost protection on the entire house

[@oldbigpig]

Been in building trade all my life and never put foam in footings for frost

[@bondobuilt386]

Depends where you live. We have a 48” frost depth in upstate New York.

[@greatlakeschorus6887]

When building a Bardo is is better to pour a frost wall or is using Sonotube forms?

[@bondobuilt386]

In my opinion a frost wall is always going to be better because you can raise the building up off the ground and we live in snow country. It does cost more though.

[@bondobuilt386]

At that point is it really a barndo?

[@scottmeredith8409]

Wow, I'm no contractor, but this is a mess. Those tubes and the support post are a mess.

[@markwoten6679]

Just wonder why engineering draining wasn’t installed next to the wall to direct water away from the building.

[@greggcarlson9823]

Where is the building inspector ?

[@johnoliver9885]

What happens when the four by fours rot out? Like how long will they last?

[@bondobuilt386]

Yes that is the problem with pole barns built that way.

[@johnbauby6612]

I am pretty sure I would not have built it like that. Why did they bury the poles? Yes they are pressure treated but they still have a shorter lifespan underground. Secondly, wouldn't encasing them in concrete accelerate the rot process especially if it is a wet environment? Wouldn't it have been more sensible to pour footings and anchor them ABOVE the ground on a concrete slab or at least on top of a footing? Yes, they are stronger in the ground but equally as strong when anchored properly to a foundation.

[@Goodvibes-Adventures]

The homeowner should definitely file a claim against the original Contractor and how did the building inspector allow those issues to pass ?🤨. And why can't a footer drainline be installed on the outside of concrete walls going alongside torwards the canal and have a outlet line into the canal. ? And gutters can be ran into a footer drainline and foam still put on top ..Take advantage of the canal being there. Run some drain lines...Great job on the wall ..What's your company name...?

[@BWIL2515]

A lot of work just to do work I've remodeled hundreds of homes and this kinda of stuff really surprising with all of the information easily available with todays social media if you're not sure turn your phone on and click

[@slip0n0fall]

Bet that pitched foam was because they didn't compact when backfilling, and it settled/angled the foam. I couldn't believe the amount of settlement I saw after good sustained rainfall, even after compacting in lifts my backfill.

[@bondobuilt386]

Yes the foam settled for sure You can see it was level in pics when they put it in.

[@popeshop5863]

Like I said before I hope they get that MF’r and get all their money back. Did 3,5 or 9 pick up that story? Glad you were able to salvage what the last idiot did 👍

[@cornpop7805]

I believe it's 48 inches total, starting from ground level, not from the top of the stem wall. Assuming that vertically laid insulation board is 12", the horizontal should be 36". Although I definitely could be wrong. I see why they didn't go below the frost-line, it would have put them in the water-table.

[@Goodvibes-Adventures]

All that should have been considered when applying for a building permit with plans ...i built a deck in western NYS and had a strict inspection schedule...How deep post holes are...Any water in the holes. It's a major disaster...from the contractor to the permit process and inspection...They should definitely be held accountable...What would Mike Holmes do?🤣. ( Holmes Construction) Diy Channel

[@cornpop7805]

@Skater Dude I wasn't aware of Mike Holmes. I just subscribed so I can give him a test drive for a while. Looks like good stuff. Thanks!

[@FranzKuster]

the posts shud stay on the zement poor,not go down

[@butopiatoo]

What a mess

[@jessiperry60]

big biscuit is your son?

[@jasonbond1666]

Yes I am Big biscuit

[@terrydougherty7078]

Foam isn’t a waterproofing solution.

[@bondobuilt386]

the foam is for frost protection not water proofing.

[@zirzmokealot4600]

I hope your flipping the bill for the rocket your building. No kill like overkill........

[@bondobuilt386]

I'm not flipping the bill LOL. I get paid for my work. Most of this should have been done already so I could just pour the floors.

[@zirzmokealot4600]

@@bondobuilt386 who at the end of the day told the homeowner that this "had" to be done?

[@bondobuilt386]

@@zirzmokealot4600 we dug up the garage to put a curb in and the garage and house were not built to our local building code and frost line requirements. Discussed this with homeowner who got a second and third opinion and told me to go ahead and fix it to our code requirements. We fixed it then they wanted to have a concrete patio out back so we did that retaining wall tom address the elevation difference between the house and boat house.

[@michaelsdragons]

You created a major problem with pouring the 4x4 into the concrete, the acid in the concrete will rot the 4x4 out. Todays wood treatment products are basically coloring, if you had put tar on the 4x4 before pouring it would have worked. Otherwise you did OK

[@rasputian2010]

It would have been easier to do a real foundation.

[@Nonsense62365]

If you have a set of plans, that everybody needs to follow there’s no miscommunication nothing should be verbal. It should all be in writing with plans. That way you don’t have issues. As long as everybody is intelligent enough to know how to read the plans! if you hire Idiot subcontractors and contractors who don’t know what the hell they’re doing. This is the kind of mess you’re gonna have l! Buyer beware hire a foreman who’s involved with all aspects of building process and they know what the hell they’re doing!

[@saramcdonalds427]

WHY YOU JUMP SCENES FOR WE NEEDS TO SEE ALL PARTS OF THE NOT EVER OTHER FIFTH SCENE JOB EVERY SCENE

[@mikeschirmer6926]

Yea piss poor job but looks nothing like a pole barn should look like

[@manfrummt]

Americans over engineer everything. There are 100 year old people barns all over that have survived somehow without foam and loctite. This foam board trend is dumb. It's gonna shift and breakdown over the years. And what is the point of insulating underground? Just use sheet metal if you want to draw water away but keep in mind whenever you try to water proof something you run the risk of trapping water too. Keep things simple and let them breathe. Shoot, it's better to build temporary and cheap. Then tear it down in 20 years if you have to. Anyway, at least you're having fun.