Pole Barn Rehab! Inside Walls

The pole barn rehab is coming along. We're adding OSB (Oriented strand board) for walls. The shed is not square so we have to do some creative math and cutting to cover the walls that lean outward!
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[@Banner1986]

Tim, I dont know that you read all these comments, but I figured this was as good a place to say it as any - I really appreciate how your family, each of you, refuses to be negative or express negativity. The way all of you take everything with measured thought and respond positively even to exasperating situations is really inspiring. I feel that even if you didn't post up scripture at the end of your videos, people would know your faith by your families words and actions alone. Best wishes, from a man striving (though not always succeeding, always stiving) to do the same

[@heresmytake2782]

YES America needs more of this

[@slhasebroock]

Cutting with 2 saw horses. Lay 2 sacrificial 2x4s on the saw horses, spread apart near edges of horse. Lay sheet on 2x4s, set saw to cut through sheet but not 2x4 of course. Safely saw all day with no accidents, cut sheets remain supported. Skilsaw kickback can be very dangerous, particularly at the end of the cut, when Christy took saw.

[@jakeschisler7525]

For the ceiling after putting up the steel make a cubby hole big enough for a person to get in. Have blown in insulation put in.

[@Alanschmalzried]

Jake Schisler terrific ideas.

[@flick22601]

Just don't use fiberglass blown in. The cellulose products are far better and foil faced foam is better yet. Take a bat of fiberglass without a vapor barrier and place it between your body and the sun. No effect. Use a section of newspaper or foil foam and you'll feel a significant drop in temperature.

[@jakeschisler7525]

@@flick22601 Check out R&R Buildings

[@SteveMac.]

Agree. We actually used the pull down ladder like you use in a standard home. Costs a bit more, but handy as heck. We put some decking and sideboards in the tallest part of the truss for a short distance for that much needed extra storage too. We put batting down under the decking, then deep blown-in for the remainder. That small area of decking also made a nice place to step into the attic from the ladder, providing secure footing.

[@flick22601]

@@jakeschisler7525 - I checked them out. Please note that he was opposed to 'spray' foam due to cost. If you notice, he does not place foam over his roof purlins before placing the steel. If he had, he could reduce the temperature in his attic space by about 25 degrees if it is exposed to direct sunlight. Help with condensation as well. I use foam board and seal it in place with can foam like Great Stuff. I guarantee my building use significantly less energy to heat and cool as his does and, mine is probably quieter and the insulation will not deteriorate with time.

[@swchocolate1]

Had flashbacks of home improvement when you said "I don't think so Tim"

[@cashxx]

Was just going to write the same thing and noticed your post...lol.

[@mikefortune4796]

Hi Tim and Christy that is a very nice job and well worth the efford the barn has come a long way from when we first seen it its all time and money nice video

[@jarroddotson55]

Always a pleasure watching you all! Keep up with the great content! Take care.

[@TheVze23sqf]

Both of you work good together. The back and forth banter is funny. 👍👍👍

[@richpicone7788]

Love the progress. Can’t wait to see more

[@davidhosmer1424]

Check out RR buildings or one of the many pole building videos. Most use a lighter gauge steel than the wall or roof. The long length allows you to bridge uneven truss spacing. After the ceiling is in they have insulation blown in. Be sure to leave air flow into and up and out of the space. Take care

[@andrewdarbyshire9108]

DAVID HOSMER I came to comment this exact thing lol.

[@johndeno562]

Coming along nicely. Looks good.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Looking good 👍

[@jansorensen]

Greate team work Tim and Christy

[@SteveMac.]

We did all steel siding inside our garage/shop area. My brother in law did metal 4 feet up from the floor with the OSB to ceiling. This allows him to hose out floor if desired without water damaging the OSB. I highly recommend doing blown in insulation in the ceiling after you install the metal. Worked great for us. Quick and easy.

[@bobpurs]

Moving a long. Be worth it when it’s done. Warm in the winter and cooler in summer. Good job

[@davidcoffey1988]

at least he being honest about not listening most guy probably would deny they weren't listening

[@jaydenjohnson1291]

Love watching you guys. I have been waiting all day long to watch you guys.😃

[@ronmack1767]

Enjoyed the video. Shop is looking good. Making progress. Y'all take care and God bless.

[@mikehornsby599]

Great job enjoyed that!!!!

[@lynnhinman8227]

Tim, there are Dynastick Self Adhesive Insulation Fastener Hangers (# SAH114) and the Self Locking Washers Round (100) that should help you with the hanging of the insulation. These are self sticking base with a pin that you would push the insulation back up to the ceiling. with the washers, you push them onto the pin and grip it and hold the insulation in place. This is what they used in my workshop, it was a rolled bats, but should work with your foam. I used this on my roll up door and placed the ridge panel on each section and it has worked great. I hope this helps.Put some construction adhesive on the back before you put the panels up; both the hangers and adhesive will hold it up.

[@parkermohr4754]

Another good video Tim

[@michaelwarren9937]

Tim, I used string about every 2' - run full length pull tight / staple run back - to hold up R38. As R38 goes up - staple string for support. I also use packing tape for seams.

[@raysnetwork4635]

I'm putting up a pole barn. Seeing these videos give me more ideas. I want to be able to heat it in the winter and cool it in the summertime.

[@walterjwalnut9964]

I had to put insulation into false ceilings 15in below an existing ceiling once, not enough crawl space to work in. I bought a couple of long rolls of 3/4 wide polyester/polythene strapping tape for crates etc and stretched that across the bottom of the false rafters. We could then lay the insulation across these straps and install the ceiling below. No air gaps in the insulation, it sags down a little in places but lifts back into place as the ceiling sheeting is hung. We used pine false rafters and could just staple to strapping tape to the rafters, so the fixings did not interfere with the ceiling fasteners.

[@tonyshaw8537]

Looking good. I am using blow in insulation in my sealing roof in my barn. I put my metal up first using a drywall Jack.

[@Alanschmalzried]

Tony Shaw I second that. That’s the approach I took. Like every aspect of finishing out the shop...the ceiling and insulation took longer than expected. But, the result is well worth the time spent.

[@ffc3476]

You guys are awesome

[@jaybee2344]

Buy 4X8X2 rigid foam insulation on the ceiling its cheap. It will block heat and cold. Use construction adhesive on the foam to attach it.

[@Tractorman-xj4gt]

Christy @ 13:56: "I don't think so, Tim" - sounds familiar !! Good job, guys !!

[@redneckbmw1]

Tractorman 1956 I was thinking the same thing

[@photocontrol]

Nice work on the walls Tim & Christy!

[@floydferguson5366]

Great video!

[@billmccoy3666]

Okay Tim ... I can honestly say, your videos are addictive. VERY informative - all of them! Thanks for some great ideas!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for watching, Bill!

[@davidshipulski4532]

Good. Video Tim! Good luck!

[@gregbrown1083]

Tim. we painted our plywood this last time before we put it up (all sides) to avoid the hard painting on ladders and scaffolds. Good luck.

[@martineastburn3679]

In my shop ceiling of my metal shop we use chick wire - heavy dip - and the bats between the metal roof and the wire. I see the wire if I look up - but it works! Easy enough to do in strips. We had double tape on the top to hold the glass wool up there for a bit as we attached the larger layer and bring up another part - working inside the wire as you work backwards. !!!

[@johanbos160]

Looks good tim and kristie 👍👍

[@jasonmong2428]

Building is looking great keep at it it'll be finished before you know it.

[@E_R_I_K]

My dad would have called that a Murphy built barn. I grew up on Murphy Rd so named after the corner cutting developer who built all of the houses in the development. When we renovated his basement after a flood we had to decide if we wanted to cut our new boards crooked to tie into existing or leave our work square and leave a gap 🤣. The barn is looking great Tim and Christy!

[@menard1245]

Looks good, Keep up the great work and a large shop fan works great to try and keep cool, if you don't already have one. Watching from Ottawa Ont. Canada. I love your channel, and all the experiences and values that I can watch on a weekly basis.

[@BigGary79]

The shop is really coming along nicely. It's going to look great once it's all put together. Gray is a tough color. We just painted our house interior gray and I swear it looks baby blue at times too. The paint color has the word "gray" in it, so who knows...

[@MyHMMWVaddiction]

I think the sheet metal strips that holds ductwork up . It's thin enough to cover up and strong enough to hold the foam. They are about an inch wide and 8'-10' long. A screw per joist would be good, and you can spray foam around them.

[@robbridges7810]

I have installed miles of OSB and if you don’t leave about an 8 penny nail gap around the sheet it might be in the floor the next day. The newer the OSB is the worse it will expand. I hope it works out for ya.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Had no issues in our other barn. We’ll see.

[@danmay9728]

Nice looking shed/garage guys, you do stuff like I do cut the next peice to cover the mistake on the one before. Good to hear you guys are from Indiana. I live in bloominton. Be safe. Peace.

[@petejones9788]

That barn cat is a really good idea.Here are some important facts. 1 always make sure they are nurtured 2 try to get female cats .3 if possible get two females of the same litter ( sisters ). They hunt together. 4 try not to make pets out of them.5 do not over feed them but don’t starve either 5 be prepared to lose some of your favorite birds. I have used this method for rodent control for ever and it works great no poison needed. Also good for keeping snakes at bay. Good luck.

[@jonathandelano121]

Most pole barns use blown in cellulose insulation in the ceiling. But what you could do if you already bought the foam. Is to use blown in cellulose to fill the gaps. Just leave a good size access hole and place some walking beams up there before the curling goes up. But it would be easier to fill the cracks using a blown in machine.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The insulation we got is free!!

[@peterkober6758]

Tim Christi we have 3 pole buildings none are square mosly because of frost they move a lot so I live with it but it's only a shed God Bless PaK

[@sid6749]

Hi Tim and Christi use the metal banding like they band lumber with its thin so what ever material you use on the ceiling it want show up good luck God bless

[@TheProCut17]

blow in insulation on the ceiling is the way to go, easy diy too

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We have free insulation just like the walls.

[@Sylvan865]

It might be too late but if you have any of the rigid foam insultation left you can use it on the saw horses and set the plywood on that. Then set your blade depth to barely cut the plywood.

[@scragmanw]

Try insulation support rods or netting. The rods are fitted between rafters as the insulation is installed. The other option is netting sold for this purpose. Both can be found at big box stores or on line. On line is cheeped and, in most cases, shipping is free. Good luck.

[@retireddriver16]

You two are doing a fantastic job putting the osb up with the pole building not being Square I think you will need to put some strapping on the ceiling it will keep the insulation up and keep The osb from sagging and the joints can be formed from the bottom as you are putting the insulation up good luck with how every you do it hope you are drying out still wet here in Watseka Illinois had another 1 1/2 inches of rain a couple days ago How's that sweet corn doing we got some at Walmart yum Yum

[@martineastburn3679]

Here in Texas, pole barn means telephone/power pole into holes and those holes are put in best they can - at least 3' like others - then Polyurethane to expand once held up. Then more poles to tie them and away we go. I live 200 miles from the Gulf, so a southern wind puts up 90% RH easy. Killer at 90 or above. Martin

[@cherieminner3071]

Use 2 ,2x4x8 on the saw horses, set the saw blade to 1/2 in. The 2x4’s will hold the plywood for you.

[@scruffy4647]

As a suggestion for cutting your osb panels. Not having anyone to help me, I made my own sawhorses (4' wide) and put 2x4's staggered about 6" apart across the sawhorses (screwed down). It helped me alot when I was saw cutting them and also cutting for outlet box opening. It also made it easy to clamp the panels down if i needed too. I had over 60 panels to do.

[@southerndirt9589]

I did the ceiling in my shop I did house wrap put chicken wire over that stapled to the trusses and then blowed insulation on top of it little to no sag

[@jamestinnel664]

I used to I said tunes for tree work and they work great for working around chain saw

[@jakeschisler7525]

Back in 1995 we bought a building from Menards it was a 30x54 with 2 sliding doors in the front and one by back corner. We hired a contractor and he had to tear down old building which he did because he wanted the old corrugated roof panels. So he also took money off his quote for them. He hired out the concrete people and all in all turned out to be a great building. But if it wasn't for him Menards tried screwing us over for a few items. One being a broken truss and shorted us some lumber. The night they delivered he was there and he caught the mistakes so they ended up fixing them. Now living here in Florida our old building has a roll up doors in front.

[@rileelang11]

I like seeing organization could we see more vids of you messing around with equipment in the yard

[@28cruzin]

As much as I love to watch you move dirt and vegitation around this was a refreshing change. BTW I found that last video, the one about drainage in the corral, very interesting. It took a lot longer than I would have expected, It came out looking real good. We need to do something similar at my son's garage. Now I know what we are in for. Maybe the finance commitee will spring for a box blade. I'll say "Tim needed one to do his job". You carry weight around here. See you two on the next one.

[@BillCoSmith]

Use drop ceiling track between the rafters, install the insulation. Put up the ceiling underneath? Is that repurposed ridged foam insulation you’ll be using?

[@StoneyRidgeFarmer]

Got the Tractor barn looking good guys! Fighting the rain today also.....curious...how much weight do ya have on the back of that tractor? Hope we can visit you guys again and do a colab video on your new place...Tim always has the coolest toys!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

About 2000# (Not yet enough). This loader is amazingly strong. Will lift over 3000lb to full height!

[@minimitchmclachlan2560]

I lov your videos I work on farms in New Zealand

[@TallTexasGMan]

My recommendation to support the foam is to use galvanized wire, such as fence wire. Heck you could staple up rolled fencing such as chicken wire or hog panels. Plenty of strength with any of these options, but most economical would be the galvanized wire. Staple it to top of rafters and set foam on it. Or if you insulate peak put the foam up then attach wire over.

[@coypatton3160]

Like others have suggested, put up your ceiling then use blow in insulation. Decided how deep you want it and put in a lot of depth gauges. Scrapes of OSB cut to length and nailed to support boards will work great. Leave as big as an opening as you want to get into the “attic” as you want, frame it out with 1x4 on the bottom side to hold the cover up. Frame out the inside in the attic to hold back the blown in insulation. Put your wall insulation on the up side of the cover to avoid a hot/cold spot. On caution is the size of the opening. As 58 yr old, it is nice to have a bugger opening, but as the cover gets bigger it is more awkward to lift out of the way.

[@bradcoddington1679]

Just a suggestion on paint color paint it white so it helps to brighten it up in there.

[@72hourbob61]

Paint the lower 6 foot gray and the upper part white. The white will help with lighting and the lower gray will help hide day to day dirt. Never seen a cat that would not hunt mice. I guess maybe a California cat could be vegetarian.

[@traceyluck8722]

You can use chicken wire stapled to the truss’ to hold the insulation up

[@steveadams4009]

Use corner trim and the gaps won't matter. 1x2 or 1x4 either will work depending on your preference.

[@noc8076]

That's a lot of weights on that tractor. Over $2500 with the bracket. For less then that you can get a three point to skid steer adapter and a double throw hydraulic top cylinder for the rear. Then use forks or another bucket on the rear as ballast, filled as needed for each job.

[@Chris_In_Texas]

Just use some small 2x2 furring strips and rip at 45 degrees in the corners to hide any gaps. They would be thin enough to bend around and give a nice angle corner.

[@harveyrousejr.2069]

Hey Tim and Christy; I live about 20 minutes from the birthplace of Pepsi Cola which is New Bern, NC. You guys make pretty good carpenters.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I (Christy) grew up in Williamston NC -not far from you I’m guessing.

[@benjaminstockton3917]

Good video Tim it is hot like they say in Florida it so hot in Florida it takes the catfish three years to learn how to swim

[@markhampton3599]

Thanks !!! You just showed that not all sheet goods are square !! You have too check each with a sguare if it is crucial to your protect !!! A hard lesson learned !!!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

there was no problem with our OSB not being square.

[@markhampton3599]

@@TractorTimewithTim there are a lot of sheet good that are not square . Put a square no the corner !!! Not all but you will find that this happens more than you think !!! Not easy to straighten it out

[@johnmorgan4017]

Old school trick is chicken wire for ceiling insulation.

[@Robertdrivesaway]

you can put a tile tracker on the cup if you only hand wash it

[@allenjackson1371]

Get a big garage fan makes a heck of a difference.

[@kennyuhlir1245]

When you put your ridged insulation in your ceiling, all you have to do is put some 16 penny nails on each joist that way your insulation will not fall down. Then you can spray foam in the gaps to seal it off. Keep up the good work. Wish I lived closer to you, I would help you. From Minnesota.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thx! We could use the help!!

[@tommyordoyne7461]

Might be time for a couple of exhaust fans on the gable ends.

[@kencotton4645]

In our house we are going to put the spray foam directly under the roof so the whole attic space is insulated along with the house. Would that work for your project as well? You could spray the insulation on the underside of your roof before installing the garage ceiling.

[@theolardides9744]

you could put the insulation in the ceiling and then screw it in then seal it properly

[@jsygrovehpi1]

If you haven't purchased the spray foam insulation for the ceiling yet, I would recommend installing the metal ceiling, throwing some walk-able planks in, and leaving a small access hatch and climb up there and blow cellulose insulation above the ceiling and work your way from the far corner and out the access hatch. P.S. I love how well you guys work together to accomplish your goals!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

we have free insulation.

[@georgenash2027]

Get some 4inch screws then drive them in opposite to each other and drive them in around an inch in then place the board above the screws and that will hold the insulation board up and once you have foamed the boards will stay there that what we do in the uk

[@kencotton4645]

Walmart sells a similar insulated cup that works really well for much less money.

[@paulgargan6134]

Get one of those Harbor freight commercial fans,best buy w coupon,love mine in my garage.

[@blessingslawn]

Cordless blows for more than a couple of cuts. Making that many cuts you’ll go back to the corded one every time.

[@bradleyschroeder1738]

Reinforced corded plastic on the ceiling, thats how the professionals do it, can do from rafter to rafter then insulate from one side of it

[@curtwhite876]

Spray foam is expensive, but it might be a good fit for your ceiling... bet you wish you would have waited until this week to do this project. These are some NICE days. Also, Yeti stuff works great, but... never mind...

[@12collier]

Looking good. For tools, I don’t care for batterie power tools. They seam to go dead in a few minutes. I prefer tools with a cord. They will last for ever if taken care of. Stay hydrated out there.

[@christopherrenfro5927]

Check out getting spray in expandable foam in your roof and ceiling that should help cut down on the heat

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We have free insulation (just like we are using in the walls. I should have clarified. sorry.

[@joelnickerson6739]

We got a bunch of bad weather here in New York

[@skicounselor]

Tim you totally need a barn fan and donate that little box fan ;-)

[@gordonbaker7118]

Tommy DeSilva of This Old House uses a compass to scribe a line down the length of the panel to compensate for the out of square corner. I think he has several videos where he shows this technique. However, an out of square building has its own challenges.

[@Drew6709]

Might need to install vents on the ends or ceiling vents.

[@bigjim5723]

i love my yetti cup too. a yr or so ago, the wife found me a handle to use on it, now it is perfect. mine will hold ice in it for 24 hrs, if i use the bigger ice out of the freezer ice maker. if u want a handle for urs, let me know, and i will get the wife to find out where she got, i'm thinking it was amazon-maybe.

[@peterkoster5053]

On the corners if you have a tiny crack just buy a corner trim piece of wood and finish nail it in.

[@rydplrs71]

For the ceiling I find it easiest to just put in strapping in a 2x2 grid.

[@ericbiue1384]

Chicken wire works well for holding up the insulation Tim

[@joshuabottner6137]

I'm a welder and I don't complain about the Heat

[@Drew6709]

For insulation install. Would string work? Zig zag the string back and forth to hold insulation in place.

[@Robertdrivesaway]

I don't understand the 21 down thumbs I like the behind the scene video's like this. I was in your area this past weekend. It was the 1st time I had been to Indiana.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We always get several thumbs down. No worries. Probably either kids thinking it is cool, or jealousy. Either way, we don’t worry much about down votes.

[@stevenbadman538]

What type of insulation did you use for the walls, also did you put any kind of moisture barrier between the metal panels and the insulation?

[@ezequielortega7238]

Can you glue the insulation up with construction adhesive.