Police Duty Pistols

The technology for police handguns has changed for the better but has your average Cop, Sheriff, or Security Guard changed? Where are we heading in handgun technology? Can old guns like revolvers and 40 cal glocks still work today? wonder 9's? Should they?
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[@Firsir]

11:50 was some deep wisdom. I genuinely needed to hear that I think.

[@Timothy-NH]

Agreed! This is actually my approach to competitive shooting, I'm not there to compete against the other shooters, only myself that I do better than I did the last time. And that I do better this practice session that the last one.

[@timoanez4668]

I started my Law enforcement carrier back in 05 during Katrina in Houston, I carried a Glock 35 with a weapon light M3 pistol light and a 870 with a Surefire FA618 light, the old timers would call me high speed. Today l carry a Glock 17 gen5 with a RMR, Streamlight 1000 lumens and threaded barrel, my shotgun now sits in my safe and my patrol rifle is a MK18 suppressed with more money on it then what l make in a month. Policing has changed and it will continue to change, who knows in the next 5 years or 10 years.

[@timoanez4668]

@@FalloutNewVegasMods44 Man you don't make any sense, please seek help.

[@timoanez4668]

@@FalloutNewVegasMods44 Man, you are wrong, l did not confiscate any weapons l was working in Houston not in Luisiana, if anything l gave a few weapons of my own to my neighbors, oh and lm a legal immigrant former combat vet, but from what you keep writing, you need some help buddy.

[@FalloutNewVegasMods44]

​@@timoanez4668 If you didn't confiscate guns during Katrina then I'm not talking about you, that's why i said "IF." Why do you feel the need to bring your immigration status into a convo about gun confiscation? I was a toddler when katrina happened, i just googled it so i understand how my comments didn't make sense. So your right i need help learning recent history lol i thought it was one city and police department for some reason instead of a multi state hurricane XD.

[@timoanez4668]

@@FalloutNewVegasMods44 Well good that you understand, I immigrated to this nation and fought for this nation before l became a US citizen, I uphold my oath to the constitution.

[@FalloutNewVegasMods44]

@@timoanez4668 Thank you for your service then. Not everyone who swears the oath to the constitution understands what it means, much less upholds it. For example most cops likely would arrest someone for having a SBR or machine guns, yet they claim to uphold their oath. ALL gun control laws are infringements on the 2nd amendment by definition which says "shall not be infringed" ALL cops who enforce gun control or conduct warrantless search and seizure ETC are all NOT upholding their oath, by definition. There is a toxic authoritarian culture present in much of modern law enforcement, the blue line gang of the state is where the allegiance of many cops lie instead of in their oath to the constitution. Most cops don't even know the first 5 rights in the bill of rights and the constitution. There are departments across the US that use the term "constitutionalist" as a slanderous word because they have contempt against people who exercise their civil rights like filming and carrying guns and refusing searches. This is why that oath you took has you swear to defend against enemies foreign and domestic. Because tyrannical governments taking rights away usually is domestic, like in Katrina, and the police are the enforcement arm of the state. Always remember that when you wear that badge, you are THE STATE, which makes you the Tyrannical force if you choose to act in defiance with your oath to the constitution.

[@Piggypongtheavgeek]

1994- S&W model 28. Belonged to my father. 1997-S&W model 5943 2000- Glock 23. 2013- retired with S&W M&P 40. Wow. I sound old!

[@JohnSmith-he4xn]

I personally love carrying the staccato p dpo. Optic, light, and best trigger possible. The performance the them is phenomenal in my opinion.

[@theshapeexists]

My next purchase will likely be a staccato. Dont know about carrying it. God forbid i have to use it in self defense and then im out $3k. I still carry my old glocks and m&ps. Way easier to replace.

[@swatoperator8618]

Staccato will give you a loaner if you’re involved in an OIS and will let you keep it until yours is back. If you’re a LEO thought.

[@PPISAFETY]

This was an enjoyable presentation. I started out in law enforcement in 1979, and carried a 4-inch S&W Model 19 in uniform. In plain clothes and off duty I experimented with a number of guns including the then almost universal J-frames. I found them hard to shoot well and to have limited capacity. I then went to a Colt Lightweight Commander in .45 ACP, which at the time was probably at the apex of technology. At the time, nobody serious trusted the 9mm, and with good reason. It was chronically under-loaded by US manufacturers. Even though we had all sorts of great guns from S&W, Beretta, and SIG, it was hard to get past that 9mm chambering. If you had access to certain restricted police-only loads, the 9mm could be a viable choice, but wasn't great on intermediate barriers. The FBI standards for testing did not yet exist. I remember handling my first Glock in 1989. It is hard for people today to understand how unusual that gun was, and how little "gun guys" trusted it when it first came out. At the time, Glock "torture tests" were all the rage in the gun magazines, with writers either trying to represent the Glock as junk, or as the greatest thing since sliced bread. During these years, most cops in my area were carrying something like a SIG P220 in .45 ACP, or hanging on to their revolvers. I decided to get a Glock, and chose the Glock 23 in .40 caliber. For a full year I carried it daily, trained with it, and even competed with it, and became sold on the pistol. I retired my Colt. I just could not make that Glock malfunction, and the size and weight were just about perfect. Even today, if I were back on the street in uniform or pain clothes, I would cheerfully carry that gun. In 1998 I did some training for a city police department that had just moved away from the SIG P226 (a fine weapon), because they had had some bad experiences with a very poor 9mm load. They decided, along with our State Police, to go with the .357 SIG. This was a very impressive law enforcement cartridge, finely accurate and very effective in that department's actual shooting. I adopted that caliber for my own use and even today it is still a favorite. In 2007, I joined a small town police department that provided me with a take-home car, and encouraged me to use it anytime I was in town. The department was short-staffed and I think they wanted to give the impression that someone was on-duty when there actually was not. I found out rather quickly that my off-duty time would often involve someone needing a cop unexpectedly, so I learned not to leave the house without a duty grade handgun, cuffs, and my phone. About that time I decided to give the 9mm a second look, and began looking at the Federal HST 124 grain +P load, as well as the Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P. I attended a wound ballistics workshop put on by Federal/Speer where they set up properly controlled FBI tests and allowed officers to test any ammunition they wanted to try out. I became convinced that the HST and Gold Dot loads, along with the Winchester Ranger 127 grain +P+ would be acceptable duty rounds for our department. We settled on the HST, and I began to carry a Glock 19 both on and off duty. When I left law enforcement in 2010, that is what I was still carrying. To be honest, I'd be fine with going to work again with just about any duty pistol I have carried since 1990. After retirement, I have been engaged to consult with a number of smaller LE agencies and some larger ones overseas on matters of equipment, firearms and ammunition. I tend to agree with you that we are probably not going to see major advances in police duty sidearms or ammo in the near term, because I think most police administrators have other priorities now. We have very good firearms and ammunition choices, which was not always the case, so those boxes have been ticked, and I don't think there is any real demand for anything different. The average cop now has many good, reliable handgun and ammo choices, and is well served by just about any good 9mm handgun from a major manufacturer. So in my mind, the next area of police focus should be on training those officers in the judicious use of force, including mastering their firearms. I think we will see continuing developments in less lethal technology. I believe that scarce resources police agencies now have should be focused on training with what they have, rather than acquisition of new weapons.

[@nazimL1011]

Excellent read..

[@turtletruth]

The "do-gooder" gun owners and MADD shall eventually destroy the 2nd amendment by self-righteousness! What part of shall not infringe is misunderstood by do-gooders and the perverse MADD organization? Nearly half the nation are convicted felons for victimless non-violent offenses who are ETERNALLY BANNED from possessing a firearm or single bullet, for life! (Self-righteous gun owners shall eventually lose their guns & bullets with the help of the police!) FACT: There are more non-violent than violent felons without God-given gun rights thanks to self-righteous do-gooders! Non-violent felons can still vote though and abolishing "guns & bullets" from backstabbing "do-gooders" is exactly how they'll vote with a vengeance and in record millennial numbers for equal (Slave) EQUALITY! ALL FOR ONE, AND ONE FOR ALL IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM of SLAVERY!!! (If non-violent felons without victims or injured parties can't legally possess a single bullet, then nobody should possess guns or bullets!) PERIOD!!

[@NazriB]

Lies again? End violence by any means necessary

[@stephenkidder8876]

I'm not an LEO, merely a gun nut who loves to shoot and a lifelong supporter of our Second Amendment Rights. I'm getting older and less able in many ways to defend myself and family, and I've concealed carried legally for many years, and fortunately have never had to draw my gun, but on one occasion a few years ago after being approached by two very intimidating threatening druggies, I swept my garmet to the side as they intentionally changed course to intercept me, and when they saw my Glock 22 .40, not only did they change their minds but changed their direction. I train and practice quite a lot, and shoot 3 different platforms. I'm no John Wick, but at self defense distances I'm pretty sure I can take care of the problem at hand. Very informative video! 👏

[@brushemteeth9159]

I am fascinated by the content! This video went surprisingly further than expected from the title. Something like "Evolution of Police Pistols, 2008-now" would have been more accurate.

[@TheWickedclownz123]

When I went to the academy in 05 we trained with smithy model 10s. The thought process was, wherever you get hired at you will qualify with what they carried. Now because of that I grew an appreciation for revolver’s. But I will still take my smith and Wesson m and p 40 I was later issued. It’s amazing how technology has changed. Even with the criminal, they have gotten more advanced themselves. Especially with today’s market. They now have full auto pistols and such. It’s almost like your getting deployed to a war zone everyday. Quite sad tbh.

[@edward1963bg]

Recently I retired from a very large Police Department in N/E Ohio after 33 years of service, back in 1989 when I started we were issued S&W heavy barrel Model 10's .38 spl, which I carried until 1992 that's when the Department switched over to 9mm S&W 5943 DAO, before settling on the 5943 they actually did issue some 5906's along with some 6906's, but ultimately it was decided to issue the 5943 DAO across the board, most cops aren't gun people it was probably the best route to take since you didn't have to worry about a decocker being on the pistol. In 2003 it was decided to make a change to Glocks, we had a choice between the G17 or G19, working plain clothes I chose the G19, certain privileged individuals were issued G26's which could be used as a "Deep Undercover" type gun. All 3 models were equipped with factory Trijicon night sights along with (3) magazines for each gun, loaded with Speer Gold Dots in the 124 grn +P flavor which has been proven to be a very capable load. Working night time hours I equipped my G19 with a Streamlight TLR-1 light which I carried in a RCS Perun holster. Now that I'm retired I still carry either my G19 or G26 loaded up with Speer 124 grn +P ammo.

[@cookie5535]

How did you all like the 5943s? I still carry one daily

[@MrVman858]

Idk I’m completely satisfied with my Glock 17 fully stock and a trlr-1 hl. I never felt like I needed anything more than that but i guess I’m one of those people “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” type.

[@jmc2398]

My department still uses the G21 Gen 4 while all the other agencies are using G17. Which i doesn’t bother me I prefer the 45acp.

[@JustinLaFleur1990]

I'm an armed security officer, and my duty weapon is a Glock 45 (chambered in 9mm) with XS night sights, a Streamlight TLR1-HL, and Glock OEM plus 2 magazine extensions. I recently decided that I'm going to make the switch over to a Sig Sauer P320 RXP with one of their custom grip modules. I decided on that switch because the Sig I think has a better out of the box trigger than my Glock, comes with an optic already (the RXP is sold with a Sig Romeo 1 pro optic), has a grip angle and grip texture I prefer, and comes standard with night sights. Granted, I shoot my Glock 45 very well. But if I can shoot even better with that Sig set up in that configuration, then why not. I chose the Glock back in 2014 as my go to duty and carry pistol because I had heard about the P320s at the time not being drop safe. Now that Sig has since corrected that problem I see no reason preventing me from making the switch. I want that fight I MIGHT get into to be as unfair to the other guy as possible and if the Sig gives me that much more of an edge than my Glock I'll take it.

[@theblackboxpodcastshow1791]

I’m not in law enforcement but Walther made sure it’s PDP was for law enforcement personnel first and foremost and then for law abiding citizens who wanted the best for their EDC and I carry a PDP 4” as my EDC and after over 1000 rounds, it’s just getting started! Good luck and enjoy your new Walther 😊

[@doobiedoo7623]

I was LEO for 32 yrs in one of the largest PD,s on the west coast. I was issued a S/S S&W 38 spcl revolver in the academy. In the late 1980,s my dept authorized the Beretta 92fs and I bought one, and carried it until I retired. I never got a dept bulletin from training division that stated that "the era of the wonder of the 9mm was long over." The 92fs was and is an outstanding pistol and served me and thousands of other officers in my dept well. An officer can carry an older model pistol or a newer model pistol, and they will serve you well, if you train and become proficient with the pistol. The training that dept gives its field officers are minimal, you have to go to the range on your own time and dime in order to obtain the proficiency that you should have as a field officer in any dept. I and many of the officers in my dept did and it paid off when we were involved in on duty shootings.

[@turtletruth]

The "do-gooder" gun owners and MADD shall eventually destroy the 2nd amendment by self-righteousness! What part of shall not infringe is misunderstood by do-gooders and the perverse MADD organization? Nearly half the nation are convicted felons for victimless non-violent offenses who are ETERNALLY BANNED from possessing a firearm or single bullet, for life! (Self-righteous gun owners shall eventually lose their guns & bullets with the help of the police!) FACT: There are more non-violent than violent felons without God-given gun rights thanks to self-righteous do-gooders! Non-violent felons can still vote though and abolishing "guns & bullets" from backstabbing "do-gooders" is exactly how they'll vote with a vengeance and in record millennial numbers for equal (Slave) EQUALITY! ALL FOR ONE, AND ONE FOR ALL IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM of SLAVERY!!! (If non-violent felons without victims or injured parties can't legally possess a single bullet, then nobody should possess guns or bullets!) PERIOD!!

[@doobiedoo7623]

@@jacobseraphin685 It was a pleasure and honor to have served the community.

[@christophercrawford-qv4up]

Excellent post. So, just like every other job , you need to spend off time to gain proficiency. Thank you for your service!

[@doobiedoo7623]

@@christophercrawford-qv4up Shooting is a perishable skill and IMO the training that I received as LEO from my dept was not sufficient enough. Not when you work at a job where you can be involved in a shooting at anytime during the day or night. Once. you graduate from the academy, we were required to qualify with firearms four times a year. Once with the dept issued shotgun (10 rounds) and three times a year with your service pistol (30 rounds each time). Every two or three years we got to go to shooting training days and we got to shoot about 100 rounds. Most of the trainings days consisted of a lot of sitting around listening to instructors and not much shooting. I got to shoot more rounds in the first 25 minutes at the range on my own time and dime than I did the whole year in my dept.

[@christophercrawford-qv4up]

@@doobiedoo7623 I am veteran Bay Area public school teacher. Having spent most of my career teaching Title 1/Section 8 schools/districts, middle/HS teachers/admin need to be proficient in Close Quarter Combat training or combat martial art in order to assuage their fears when dealing with unhinged students/parents. I have a green belt in kenpo and have shadow boxed with Target Focus Training. I want to take the live training in Las Vegas. When I can afford it, firearms are next on the agenda. Due to Prop 47 and leniency among DAs, California has become very unsafe. I hope many young cops read your posts and realize they need to overtrain in firearms. Based on live video footage I have seen, I think cops need to train more in CQB. A firearm is only a tool. The human body is a weapon as well.

[@clachapelle]

I am about to start my first Armed Security job. I will be using my full size Walther PDP. I put a Holosun RMR on mine..

[@claytonkilbourne9078]

Great gun.

[@clachapelle]

@@claytonkilbourne9078 Yes, way better than those OVERRATED Glocks lol...

[@claytonkilbourne9078]

@@clachapelle Matter of opinion. I have Glocks, and S&W M&P's . Don't discount other firearms.

[@clachapelle]

@@claytonkilbourne9078 I hear ya. It's all about personal preference.

[@claytonkilbourne9078]

@@clachapelle exactly

[@losthighway53]

Working in Detroit as an armed security officer went with a Glock 45 chambered in 9mm, 17 +1. LEO discount also helped

[@Boba_Fett24]

The Glock 21 was my first issued weapon in 2001!

[@americanmilitiaman88]

My great uncle was a alameda police officer in the 70s after he got out of the navy on duty he carried a model 10 smith and wesson. My dads cousin still has it. And a colt combat commander with rose wood grips off duty

[@josephgonzales4802]

Very interesting, when I became a Police officer in 89 my duty weapon was a S&W 66 revolver. In 92 I switched to Beretta 92 FS, 9mm DA /S/A then in 2000 I switched toa Glock 22, 40 cAl. A couple of years ago I purchased a Glock 35 with a steam light 1000 lumens weapons light. Now that I'm at the end of my career I am that dinosaur. I am pretty proficient with my Glock. If I had 5 to 10 years to go l think that I to would upgrade. 👮‍♂️🇺🇸

[@tat2uuedbass294]

2013 I carried the Glock 22 Gen 4, 40 cal. w/streamlight TLR1-HL. Still carry it to this day. My back up was a Taurus slim 9mm on the ankle. Love my Glock...

[@parkerjones6893]

I started with a Glock 21 Gen 3. It’s a smooth shooter, it’s just the weapon is massive. Currently carry a P320 X Carry in .357 Sig. Love it.

[@MrRawnch]

I don't see spitzer rounds taking over because of two things. 1. The constant anti-gun politicians attacking mag capacity. The beauty of most spitzer cartridges is having a mag in the 20+ range in standard form. 2. CCW and compact platforms. It's going to come down to overall capacity and optimal ballistics. Many will argue the practicality of such rounds given the distance of most defensive shooting situations. Most states that have permitless carry don't have magazine capacity laws. I think gun technology can start to take off again once we dump the dumb capacity laws.

[@deputydog5261]

LE from 1998-2020 carried a G35 gen 3 with a G27 gen 3 as my backup, off duty carried a G23 gen 3 or my G27, these guns never fail me and as a retired guy I still carry the same guns.

[@how-i-roll-rb5796]

When I started we could carry anything in 40 but Sig & Glock were recommended(at the time we bought our own duty weapons). I started with a G22 but switched to a P226 in 40 & always had a hammerless s&w 357(with 38+p's) as a backup. I forget the yr but 357sig was a caliber that was supposed to be the new one and I did get a barrel for my 226 but ended up switching to a 229 with a rail for a surfire for a few years. Though a lot of money I love my Staccato P though I highly recommend it I do understand if your paying for it among other equipment it might not be the first option or on the budget. I think my first vest & 226 were roughly same price.

[@thundercheeks6716]

My patrol guns set has been SOOO diverse and they are in this order Start of career-Glock 17-TLR7 Now- Glock 17 MOS-TLR7HL Beginning rifle- Colt M4 with aimpoint PRO and crimson trace light Now- colt m4 with aimpoint PRO and crimson trace light

[@alliwantisfinancialstabili7414]

This video was what I really needed to hear because I'm in the same position. I started armed security back in 2019, I got a Glock 17 Gen 5. When I started at that company I had a TLR-1HL in a Safariland holster, my coworkers who had been doing the job for a few years before me only had Glock 19s with no light in a Serpa holster. I had the most popular weapon for that time, pistol optics hadn't quite taken off as they have recently. Fast forward to today I do armored cash transport, still carrying the Glock, and I'm on the better end of gear in comparison to most of my coworkers. I consistently rank in the top 2 spots in qualification scores at my branch. Yet I have a couple coworkers who have optics on their Glocks, and my partner has been talking a lot about getting his cut for an optic. For the longest time I kept putting off the question of pistol optics, why would I want to do red dots when I'm perfectly fine with irons and rank top? Even beating out my coworkers who run optics on their guns? You're right though, in the same way I look at my boomer coworker who carries a revolver and goes "They wouldn't let me carry a 1911 and this was the next best thing I could shoot", I'm probably the same in that sense, stubborn with the mindset of "hey I do just fine with it". I'm not quite sold on the whole "I have to have the best trigger", because I am quite comfortable with Glock triggers, but I get the point of "if I can have an upgrade, why shouldn't I go for it?". Also I am quite sentimental towards my guns, so I find it hard to part way with my Glock.

[@Czechmate88]

If you are able to make modifications to your gun, a Ghost 3.5lb connecter makes a decent different in the trigger.

[@bebop_557]

I noticed the same thing about Glock when I went over to their booth at NRAAM. I was expecting dutybound use, but everyone at the booth was from their competition shooting team and all the new Glocks were for nonsworn CCWs. They were still very nice, but I hadn't had much contact with the duty side of Glock until I took my Glock Armorer certification course (which I highly recommend btw). I still carry stock Glock when I'm on duty, but all mine that I currently own as POFs are Gen4 blue label trade-ins and it's probably only a matter of time before I'm forced to jump to Gen5 if I continue to carry stock Glock.

[@seppi_dead_wavy]

I just read someone's entire life story in the comment section on KZbin

[@danschneider9921]

I started in 1985 with a S&W Model 66-3. Then about 1991 a S&W 4006. In 2001 went to a G17 and ended in 2006 with a G19 after I went to a plain clothes division. Quite the journey in 21 years to go from a 4" all stainless revolver to a all metal auto to a compact polymer 9.

[@AVH8TOR]

A couple guys at my city have a revolver. They have to be employed before 1992 or 1995 to carry it.

[@jedijones8882]

My duty pistol is a Springfield Xdm Elite with an RMR, and a Streamlight. 22+1 capacity.

[@Jiraiya-Sama482]

Where is goes tomorrow is dependent on the same people who watch these videos at 3 in the morning Me looks up to clock….0400 I feel called out

[@rainierpenner8476]

After a very long and overdue time coming, the RCMP is finally on a good track to replace our SW 5946. The tender requires among other things, a polymer 9mm capable with a red dot sight, a light, a safety dingus on a

[@glockmpw]

Minor issues of preference aside, if those are the finalists they can’t go wrong.

[@kalaallstar19]

wowee finally they are considering replacing those old pistols, they should go SIG p320 like the CAD military did, or I suppose glock would be decent.

[@rainierpenner8476]

@@kalaallstar19 320 is out of the running because it does not come standard with a trigger with a built in safety hinge like a Glock

[@kalaallstar19]

@@rainierpenner8476 yeah that makes sense then. Wonder if they might take a look at the m&p 2.0's guess it will come down to best bulk buy pricing.

[@jakesoros2376]

It's about time. Are you guys finally putting C7 and C8 carbines in your cars? They definitely would have helped at Moncton.

[@82lowe36id]

Great video. Im not LEO, but in the military I have worked with LEO in the past. Inmy current career, the building I work at has Houston PD (Texas) officers that work the lobby during the work day. One officer still is carrying a S&W revolver. I would think you made a good choice going with the PDP. Seems like a great gun and from my past experience dealing with Walther, they have excellent CS and a great "blue label" like program. Personally, I am a DA/SA fan and the Beretta Elite LTT 92 is my choice for full size pistol with the CZ P09 a very close 2nd. Curious if you checked out CZ at the time with the P10F?

[@tomzarek6425]

The cartridge you are looking for is 7.5 FK, which is 7.5x27mm. 357 Sig also lives in this same family of pistol cartridges and is much older than 7.5 FK. My understanding of their lack of popularity is due to the same difficulties that 10mm initially faced, they are hot as fuck and relatively difficult to shoot out of lightweight guns.

[@totalnewb123]

What 9mm load and weight would you be using for the Walther? I like 40 S&W personally, but if I were duty or law enforcement and was issued a 9mm I’d go with 124 grain bonded plus p. Just curious. Also great video explaining in a non bias way on the state of duty handguns. 👍🏿💯

[@laramiefrank479]

I'm glad I found this, I've been wanting to make a video like this because it seems like a very interesting topic, but hardly any information on the internet.

[@KrakenBolter]

i think your prediction is accurate. the future of handguns is high-velocity spitzer pistols which has existed for a while like you said in the Five-Seven 5.7x28mm but it seems like FN didn't care enough to truly maximize its potential and disrupt the industry by heavily marketing and selling it to law enforcement where it has immense potential. you are looking at a riflelike pistol bullet that has less recoil than the 9mm, higher capacity, superior accuracy and range, and better terminal ballistics. now it seems like the one drawback of the spitzer pistols is they seem to be dependent upon long barrels but for a duty handgun for open carry uniformed personnel this should not be an issue. i think a big interim before this big change is the Solid Copper Non-Expanding screwdriver shaped bullets like the Lehigh Xtreme Defenders. Very high velocities from all conventional pistol calibers and superior terminal ballistics than hollow points while having excellent barrier penetration while not overpenetrating soft targets. I predict those will render hollow point ammunition obsolete.

[@jairustheadventurer3935]

He said this before the Smith and Wesson 5.7 came out. I think it's the future.

[@charleskennedy1150]

I'm wanting to know how you knew I was watching this at 3am 😂😂

[@JEST3R_]

My buddy at the department I'm trying to get hired on at just made FTO so I'm beyond excited to get my application in ♥️

[@youteo3596]

Hey now where's the Glock 7 made out of porcelain? Lol happy holidays everyone

[@samuelprice2461]

Just found your channel through this video. I’m current police (3 yrs) in a medium sized metro agency. We’re old fashioned in a lot of ways. Still use patent leather belts, and only recently adopted weapon mounted lights. RMR’s are still a no-no. But we were apparently one of the first agencies in the State to adopt the Glock 🤷‍♂️. At one time, the Beretta 92FS was also an acceptable choice for duty. However, one day in 1994, an office accidentally shot a teenager in a closet while he was trying to de-cock his Beretta with his thumb like a revolver. The story is that he had originally been trained with a Smith and Wesson Model 19, and so had adopted the habit of using a cocked revolver as a “people management tool.” So the Berettas were gone after that. The current issue we’re having is that we no longer are trained on any long gun in our academy, and admin doesn’t want anyone carrying shotguns anymore. So most new people (myself included) have no option to carry any rifle or shotgun.

[@mattdo9618]

A bit late but are you guys still not allowed to carry and long guns? Thats is kinda crazy.

[@samuelprice2461]

@@mattdo9618 Actually, within the past year we introduced rifle school into our academy. So people coming out onto the street now are issued a new rifle. People coming out of the academy now are also issued an RMR optic on their Glock 17’s. Modernizing!

[@sethduzan4441]

Personally i think what killed the 357 sig as a major duty round is the evolution of bullet technology, you have 9’s that aren’t far off performance wise and the 357 has the magazine capacity of 40’s…

[@mikebillman8089]

The switch from 40 and 45 to 9mm can be attributed to the advancements made in bonded bullets specifically the Speer gold dot.

[@MrSteveb1]

I started with a Smith & Wesson .357 with a 6 inch barrel, transitioned to the Smith & Wesson 3rd gen 5906 around the time of the infamous FBI firefight in South Florida and left the profession, carrying a Glock 22 in .40. The Glock 23 was also authorized. One of my SGT’s carried a tuned .45 Colt 1911 authorized by our chief. Times have certainly changed. 12:17

[@Kamingo170]

Glock or go f**k yourself was the saying to newbies at my dad's department he said 😂

[@charleskhenry]

I agree. Look at 57 right now. Its ability to go through most level 3A soft body armor is nuts. Its a serious game changer. And the capacity actually increases for most firearms.

[@EvilynKing]

Your coffee's getting cold 😂 Thanks for the explanation and stay safe!

[@clachapelle]

Does anyone know what is the best website to get Duty style mag pouches for the PDP?? Thanks

[@jimhovater8755]

Safariland

[@2KCamaroZ28SS]

And we're right back to the wonder 9 era

[@praack4563]

still don't understand why the 40 was ditched - unless it was because the contract price with the government brought the cost of firearms and ammo so low that it was a no-brainer for budgets to move to a 9mm. any change in Ammo for the 9 was there for the 40.

[@couchpotato7750]

You can get the same or better performance out 9mm while allowing for ammo to be carried. 9mm also degrades your weapon a lot slower.

[@Killertomatoe01]

5.7 is getting real popular again, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s where the future is

[@MikeDCWeld]

I don't think that 4.6mm or .22TCM have any real future. They simply didn't have enough guns chambered for them selling in the civilian market to gain them the traction they needed. I feel that .30 Super Carry has a pretty good chance to carve out a place for itself, but it's still too early to say for certain. I don't think 5.7x28mm is going anywhere though. It has two handguns and a handful of rifles chambered in it pretty readily available to the public and at least two manufacturers of ammunition for it.

[@couchpotato7750]

4.6mm is here to stay. Its heavily used in Europe's police and SF departments.

[@romero9545]

Please do video for service duties rifle.

[@Razor-gx2dq]

Would the 7.5mm Fk cartridge count as the evolution of pistol calibers that you described?

[@scaleworksRC]

I can vouch for the Glock 22. That was one of the guns I regret selling, even though it had dim sights and duty wear from who knows how many years.

[@jamesmanning8795]

I have a Gen 5 22 MOS now and I do not plan on getting rid of it. It is my favorite gun right now.

[@hughey4594]

Just curious how popular were Glock 23s with police in the mid to late 2000s

[@SKUMO2005]

my father still carries his ruger gp100 and sometimes i really fear that because he works with the county that overlaps in chicago, the home of "ruler clips" and "glock switches"

[@aandyherr817]

I wouldn't work as a cop here. I wouldn't work as corrections, detention or anywhere near or inside that jail either, primarily because of local politics, idiotic bullshit going on and so forth, yada-yada. HOWEVER I know of one Sheriff's Deputy that was and probably still is carring a revolver, I just noticed, asked "hey, you don't have a glock?" and he said no, this was HIS GRANDFATHER'S GUN from when he was a Deputy. This man is like 80. lol. hilarious. No doubt he is profecient in it and no doubt it will kill any fucking asshole who tries to shoot you or stab you or otherwise... but it took me off guard to see a Uniformed, Active- Law Enforcement Officer of this county ON PATROL with a fucking brick of a revolver on his hip. Taking the Big Iron on his hip, seriously in all it's glory. Very unique, of course everyone else was a glock of some kind. Only other people I know who carry a revolver as a primary is behind a desk or using one as a backup. Amazing. 2023 and he's still carrying that gun, that gun has been in a duty holster on the street longer than I have literally been breathing which is stupidly amazing.

[@watcbd]

Does anyone know: Red dots are currently all the rage but I don't hear as many people talking about lasers, is there a reason lasers are less accepted? Having your iron sights unobstructed and an easier to see laser seems like it would be so much better than a red dot.

[@couchpotato7750]

You get more performance out of a red dot then a laser. Lasers are nice for target designation not active aiming like red dots. If you're using NV/Therms then you already know pistols dont peform well in those systems.

[@Kenmarshallintereststx]

I think my local PD switch from the g22 to g35mos. Good ol Texas 💪

[@ShaulDawg]

I think you forgot to stop by the Taurus booth...

[@philipgabriel2450]

Check 22 TCM for the future bullet you described

[@gjhoward]

Would you consider trading out the Steiner for a Holosun EPS at some point?

[@DougSpende-eb2fz]

WOW in 1995 when I got on our dept. I saw 22 specials, 38 specials 1911A1 45. Berreta was the big boy in 1985 for the US Military and police depts. Smith and Wesson automatic in 59 4006 like I carried in security going to college. FBI used the Smith and Wessons. The 38 snub nose or specials. I carried a 357 Colt Python in the Academy until they dumped the Smith and Wesson 357s. Our dept. Adopt the Smith and Wesson 4506 great automatic. In 1987 in the Marines we had to turn in our 1911A1 for the 9mm berreta. I got me a Sig Sauer P220 45 ACP and quified with this 45 and carried. I bought both weapons from the Marine Corps when I got out in 1991. No security company or police dept. Would let me carry my 1911A1 or Glock 22 40 cal or my Smith and Wesson 4006. Then I got on Harley Davidson security and they carried Smith and Wesson 9mm 59. So I carried my 4006 40 cal. In 1995 when I got on with my dept. I sold everything I had but not my sig Sauer P220 and carried it for 17 years then we went to Sig Sauers P320 45 ACP. I will retire soon. I still carry my Colt 1911A1 45 ACP automatic compact on my ankle! I do miss my Colt Python. Great show! Laser pistols Star Wars Star Trek US Military are using Laser rifle weapons now! They have pistols in 5.56 ×223. 9 mm I a always been a inferior round. Look at the 1986 Miami Dade FBI shoot out! Or the 1997 LAPD HOLLYWOOD SHOOT OUT! out gunned big time. I'll take my 45 with 10 rounds over a 9mm 19 rounds any day! Wish I could carry a 10mm but chief said no be happy your carring your 45!

[@fattywithafirearm]

My duty pistol is a 9mm sig p320, with a TLR1 light, truglo tfx pro sights, Wilson Combat grip frame, and 21 round mags. I carry 2 extra mags. I have a safariland ALS/SLS and a tourniquet mounted on the front of my holster. I 100% would love to see a polymer framed, double stack, duty size, striker fired 7.62x25 tok.

[@robertharold2503]

When I started I had a s&w l frame with 12 extra rounds in loops on my belt. In the Atlanta police academy we had our holster on our pants belt and 50 loose rounds in our pocket.

[@mattjohnson8090]

50 loose rounds in your pocket why

[@FalloutNewVegasMods44]

Liberty Civil Defense 10mm 60 grain does 2,400Fps out of a 5 inch barrel, 780fpe. 12-13 inches of penetration and devastating permanent wound cavity that fragments and explodes several inches inside target. Defeats most soft armor. 5 inch ar15 60grain bullet does 1900fps. 5 inch 10mm 60 grain does 2,400 fps. My guess is the larger bore of the projectile allows more surface area for the powder to exert force on compared to 224 projectiles.

[@Czechmate88]

Point of impact be damned right?

[@FalloutNewVegasMods44]

Your not hunting rabbits at 100 yards you FUDD. The POI shift for Liberty 10mm is 2 inches low at 25 yards, that's just over half an inch low at 7 yards. I use the 509 ACSS on my glock 20 and the bottom of the chevron is a good POA for the liberty when zeroed to with 180grain. You could also just zero your optic to the liberty ammo if you really wanted exact POA/POI. But for a self defense gun .6 inches low at 7 yards is acceptable for everyone except FUDDS named Kenneth because Kenneth shoots .1 MOA groups, and half an inch POI shift low is not suitable for hunting baby bunnies at half a mile. Be very very quiet, Kenneth is hunting wabbits and is definitely not a close relative of ELMER FUDD.

[@jimhovater8755]

I srarted in 1990 with a 3rd Gen S&W 3904. I finished in 2004 with a G22.

[@jonathandavis7810]

What about 357 sig?? I think it might make a come back.

[@BeDangerousGroup]

Great video! But that coffee is probably cold by now. I think the future will be more about retention -ie fingerprint id triggers, etc

[@mattbigchiefbradley1739]

I come from a long line of police officers, military and police. My dad was a police officer for over 30 years. He was a police chief in my brother was a k-9 unit when my brother started law-enforcement he carried a Beretta 9 mm in a Glock 17 my dad carried a 357 magnum talk to the day when he started law enforcement and I carry a hey Springfield, XD 45 service model I’ve been around guns more entire life. I could tell you more about guns than I could tell you about cars and I own a lot of different guns.

[@prodigalson1500]

Where I work, I can carry nearly any pistol I want. I carry a Glock 22 now, but I want to start carrying either a 1911 or a Glock 17.

[@wastool]

I carry a Gen 4 Glock 21.

[@Ph4r4oh_444g]

I carry a glock 23 gen 3 for security and I’d carry a light but it’s hard to find a level 3 holster for it rn

[@idahocougarfan9511]

If I wasn’t a truck driver I’d choose law enforcement. I’m 43 years old and would still love to switch careers. Not sure if I’m to old to be switching or even be able to at my age

[@Nuts2butts]

Great video as always! We’re still issued glock 22 gen 4’s which I fine by me but I find myself shooting my personal glock 19x much faster and much more accurate. It sounds like we may be going to 9mm this coming year if so we definitely will give the PDP a run!

[@DanTheWolfman]

Try heavier slide G5 G22 and see if you can get fairly close to what you are doing with 19x...should be close enough that the larger caliber makes sense.

[@bluetoast8584]

I want to go red dot on pistol but I have always heard sending the slide to get milled is superior to optics ready pistols. Pain in the ass. Thoughts? Love your channel

[@charles17508]

Good choice I carry a glock but it's modified and if I couldn't modify a gun I'd have to go with a stacato 2011 the p model is less than 2 grand and it's a great gun I love the pdp though and probably the best striker fire gun on the market .

[@stoneylockett5162]

Glock 22 gen 5 mos is my favorite!

[@chillymcgillacutty8441]

@freefieldtraining what holster do you have for the PDP?

[@crjcrj8443]

Future of police pistols ? I think it will be optics which aren’t widespread yet or compensation devices for bad trigger form like they do with cameras

[@ryanmurphy8327]

Great job on this project is this a 4.5 or 5 if you feel there is a difference between the two

[@dktk4136]

My 686+ was used as a trail gun and defense. It was replaced by my G20.

[@drstevej2527]

Because the vast majority of police never fire their weapon and if they do the likelihood that they need to reload an 8 round mag is like hitting the lottery.

[@deucedeuce1572]

I'm sure I can speak for everyone when I can say it's an Outrage that not even one NAA revolver was featured in this video. It's clearly the most iconic and popular (and effective) duty/[police gun in the world.

[@simmo1567]

Excellent video and now a new subscriber! What are your thoughts on the M&P 2.0? The new riggers are really nice.

[@hookset9382]

What duty holster are you using for the PDP with the MPS

[@Amac1825]

CZ* best triggers out there minus competition stuff

[@MickeyWinsteadWinstead]

do you like the 229

[@anthonymaestas4863]

Hey, I am not watching this at 3 in the morning. Its 2:30am

[@leoguy1609]

Although there's a lot of reliable firearms there's no such thing as a 100% reliable there's to many variables involved, granted some not being the firearms fault. Because of the Sig Sauer P320 fiasco and other issues won't buy another Sig. Do like your choice in the Walther.

[@rubengonzales9150]

There is extended mags for c9 an Allan magnetic holster for c9 plus bulldog holsters. C9 is quit capable so don't knock it because it's cheap

[@tellyg2010]

As I'm watching at 3 am... scary! lol

[@ryanranard5187]

No “new” cartridges! I feel 30 super carry will never fully catch on like 9mm. Just keep the cartridges we have. They work.

[@couchpotato7750]

Everyone said the same about 9 and .40 we'll how it plays out in the end.

[@PopBubbleWrappable]

I think ammo technology lies in further refinement of existing popular calibers. My carry gun is loaded with 9mm 68gr +P which the manufacturer claims will do 1800ish fps out of a 4" barrel, so from the 3.7" barrel of my gun, I shouldn't be too far under that. I don't have a chronograph to verify this so the manufacturer could be making me a liar, but I doubt it. Of course this still isn't doing rifle-caliber levels of tissue damage, but it was never intended to.

[@tacticalbt1023]

What duty holster do you use With PDP?

[@christopher6538]

Could you use something like a CZ 75 ? Or p series .

[@D-A-1776]

The hi point notably the most used by criminals. My cousin is a leo and said he gets those more than any ither from criminals.

[@freefieldtraining]

Ten years ago I would have agreed. Today, not so much.

[@D-A-1776]

@freefieldtraining . Could depend on the area too. We're in east Tennessee he in a little town he said he sees those and Jennings 9mm alot