Police Search For JonBenet Ramsey's Killer: Part 2

[@laurenh8550]

Is it me, or do they show more emotion defending their innocence than they do talking about finding their daughter's dead body?

[@kittygirl2585]

Lauren H They do

[@avivarosenbloom1615]

Omg yes

[@TT-hl5ql]

Nope. Not just you..

[@TT-hl5ql]

@Karamanoukian Karoun yeah but it's like The question remains 🙄

[@addiebruney8041]

Yes

[@Ej16Ay]

why do I think that the mother was jealous of her own daughter

[@nikkigulayan3754]

kookie's legal wife yes its true her mother was also a beauty pageant girl, maybe people liked Jonbenet better and she got jealous.

[@idrankbleach7494]

Omg your profile picture is my home screen

[@spriinklesbaby]

DiTT0...

[@jomama6402]

kookie's legal wife yes its true she was

[@dapperduncecap]

The fact she brought up being a cancer survivor out of nowhere made me cringe.

[@fortheloveofkpop]

I'm a surviver of stage 4 cancer... ok but that doesn't answer her question

[@mooravity8140]

dude i swear i find other armys in the comments of the most unexpected videos

[@yeontankim3575]

mooravity hiiiii

[@justanormalhuman83yearsago56]

For the love of K-pop Hello!

[@stinkymonkey7608]

*Survivor

[@moumouhminou3919]

It does actually

[@jimhalpert4777]

When her brother was talking to that child psychologist it was really vivid like he knew almost exactly what had happened.

[@ladymire]

Exactly! He was a child! How could he have actually no clue what happened to his sister at the time yet vividly describe someone hitting her in the head with an item. As if he himself had done it.

[@SLexy9682]

Wow I was thinking the same thing. I believe the whole family was involved.

[@calicodnikonian2774]

@@ladymire HIS parents coached him well... or the family attorney! He didn't look at the person posing the questions... like children do when they did something wrong, or adults being interrogated.

[@sikerslalatm3147]

Calico D'Nikonian or ... he didn’t do anything wrong and his parents did ?

[@LP-lc6dn]

Maybe they were both being abused in the same way, and Burke knew because he had seen some stuff himself.

[@cearachavez1295]

The parents never talk about how “they wish they knew who did it” they only talk about “how scared they were” or “how outraged they were when they were blamed”. SO OBVIOUS

[@diannehackner1812]

Shifting the blame to one thing

[@myaccounti5]

And on top of it, the “abductor” wrote a whole 2 page long note just for jonbenet to end up in the basement? Makes no sense

[@bethryan9077]

@@myaccounti5 Those involved had nowhere to operate, JB was never to be taken from the house. Glenn Meyer was desperate for money & he was the author of the note & organised it all with 3 from the house on the corner. One of them had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer invited himself saying he was looking for the Barnhills & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. He got to know a great deal about the family. JB's dog was kept over there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave them many cards, letters & notes over the years in her own writing. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they didn't get the money.

[@Wa1kerSta1ker0]

@@bethryan9077 The family knows who did. It was either the parents or the creepy brother did it and the parents are covering for him. It's clear as day it was the family.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Wa1kerSta1ker0 You only say what you do because you're just Another who knows nothing True about this case. The Ramseys were finally exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA Already cleared them ALL Plus lots of others then & since including known paedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching - from under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. Further testing with advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.

[@sadie5031]

It still haunts me to think that one person in this world knows who killed her while we’re all still in confusion

[@whitneykelly3892]

God knows and sees everything so whoever did it won't get away with it

[@existentialthinker5282]

@@whitneykelly3892 Exactly!

[@user-lz5nd8lh8b]

it was the parents.

[@itskayli]

correction @idk it was the dad

[@uroobiaaltaf5488]

@@whitneykelly3892 for sure That monster will get the punishment they deserve

[@MegaSonglover99]

How do people not realize what happened? I feel like it's TOO obvious. She was found with undigested pineapple in her system which means she either woke up or was not asleep when they came home from the party. There was a bowl of pineapple and milk on the table(an intruder won't feed their victim). The mother's fingerprints were found on the bowl. The paper that the note was written on came from the home. The handwriting on that note was similar to the mother's. Whoever wrote the note knew how much money the father had received as a bonus. They found two puncture wounds on her body. The wounds matched a piece of Burke's train set. The rope(or whatever it was) was from the mother's art supplies. I believe Burke & Patsy were eating pineapple together. Patsy left the room. JonBenet woke up and saw that Burke had pineapple. She wanted some, so she grabbed a piece of his. He probably got mad because she took it, hit her a little too hard, and knocked her out, maybe even stabbed her with his train piece. Patsy came back, freaked out & yelled for John. He came in, took the girl and they made Burke go to his room and then they came up with the plan. At the point, John took her downstairs and Patsy got her art supplies. They made the thingy (I forgot what it's called) and tied it around her neck, and covered her mouth with tape. That's probably what actually killed her. After they did that and set it up, they sat down together and wrote the note. THEN they called the police. Patsy was in the pageant/performing world so she probably knew how to act. I believe she was ACTING scared and worried on the phone. They also invited their friends an neighbors over hoping the scene would get tampered with. This is why they were passing the note around, getting other people's fingerprints on it. They were also wearing the same clothes they had worn to the party. Possibly because they stayed up, trying to cover up the fake that Burke had killed her.

[@jessicajoerndt428]

《PattiRose》 It just seems so extreme that the parents would kill the child just because the brother hit her?? Like what? I’m confused

[@alisalauzon6454]

Nope.. DNA proved no FAMILY member, the police botched by focusing on them instead of intruder. They went threw Hell.

[@sesp7502]

This little girl was *raped* and murdered.. it's not really so cut and dry as covering up an accident. It feels like this little girl was preyed on, and with so many eyes on her and so much family money flying around? Who really knows :/

[@ivybrown2310]

This is sooo thought out

[@kerstinnilsson9968]

Yep 100% agree! And the ramseys paid their lawyers to lie and cover them up

[@NikkiLove9022]

Her parents seemed like they weren't even devastated..

[@kavina6316]

Nicole Caruana exactly it's like the don't care

[@sarahoffman6464]

Nicole Caruana they could have been in shock

[@elizabethflores5153]

Same

[@IslesGirl3]

If my child was missing or even how she found her dead I would've been a wreck crying my eyes out. There's no one in the world I would forgive taking my baby away from me. The love of a mother and child is extraordinary and the fact that she's not even crying makes me feel like she's acting because she knows who did it and they're guilty of it. Can't believe they've gotten away with this.

[@ashleysimoner]

Nicole Caruana ik thats what i said

[@annasnotabanana]

It’s so creepy how the brother always seems so happy and careless about the situation, even as a child

[@sallyjanssens2477]

But couldn't that be the poor kid's condition....?

[@janiliztorres731]

yea prob because the whole family did it and he was told to be quiet and act cool and normal

[@chelsey1657]

My father's sister was murdered. I call tell you some times they put on a face to tell the story because they want to talk about it, but also emotionally distance themselves.

[@crazybubblepop4560]

Yeah... that was weird

[@sonianieves2433]

No one knows how another person reacts..we r all different...I would b so upset of police acusing me if iam innocent focusing on the family while the real killer is out there.....and if you all follow the story..the real Evidence is in the DNA..on the little girls body..under her nails,female parts, underpants..a strangers male DNA ...we all got to blame the Colorado police for doing a terrible job ...years go by and they tend to forget a little girl was murdered

[@natibloop247]

Hmm I feel like the dad did it! 1.he found her body all of a sudden 2.he tried to get out of town 3.He had the same amount of money in his savings acc that the killer wanted

[@super_styelzz9041]

Natasha Canales pog

[@natibloop247]

Super_Styelzz what??

[@natibloop247]

JimMorrison Spiritual Dedication Wow good explanation and yes it is very strange..he is definitely hiding something.

[@rxbenfvx4218]

@JimMorrison Spiritual Dedication how does all his daughters get killed

[@quinnly4776]

Ur telling me that u would want to stay in the same place where someone u loved was murderd bc i know that if it was my family i would want to leave

[@jmgmarcus808]

Damn it I want to know who did it so badly. O man 20 years later and it's eating at us all. This case boggles the mind.

[@angiemaq]

jmgmarcus They, The Bolder police department knows who did it but they can not and will not say. One of the lead detectives resigned shortly after the DNA results came back from Jonbenet's underwear. They said it was inconclusive or not enough of a sample. Something like that. Either way the first detective on the scene, the one picked up the body from the middle of the floor and placed her underneath the christmas tree said that John came over and asked was she dead, and she started counting how many bullets she had in her gun because the look he gave her scared her so bad she thought she was going to have to kill him. So there ya go. Patsy is dead, John is remarried , both of his daughters are deceased and his son should be in a looney bin. John is the common denominator.

[@ml890324]

Doagae Porbeni why did the detective resign if John was the murderer though

[@StreetkillnHD]

look up the Ricky McCormick Murder Mystery, its a lot more crazier. as well as the Death of Elisa Lam

[@sarahloso628]

jmgmarcus i

[@levinmoser4001]

Doagae Porbeni John found her, how convenient. I believe he had been abusing her and she was getting ready to tell. Patsey wrote the note to help John. With DNA evidence in 20 years they Lunt find the killer? It's not rocket science. Darlie Routier comes to mind.

[@chloecraft542]

He found her body quick

[@mayo8703]

Yeah he was told to look from top to bottom but instead he immediately went down to the basement

[@arabellaacuna4046]

It is like he knew she was down there.... suspicious 🤔🤔

[@stacyr4768]

@@arabellaacuna4046 possibly

[@hrtsforzi]

Cuz he probably knew where she was 🤔🤔

[@felicitypinedo6133]

Zion Frazier or they already checked the entire house besides that

[@011KiKi]

What a curious case. I would love to know the true definite answer on who killed that innocent little girl.

[@alexharris6483]

011KiKi her brother

[@MsMutiti]

011KiKi An outsider did it right who lived right across their house and no one suspect him.

[@kerstinnilsson9968]

100% her brother. Parents covered it up

[@folasadesuzanne]

You must be very stupid and dumb if you think it was the brother. How in the hell does a 9 year old, a 9 year old boy just 9 have a mindset to kill his own sister? How? How can he carry his own sister in the basement and kill her? He couldn’t have done it. That’s just dumb. It’s either the parents could have done it or possibly hired someone to do it. Not for a second can I say it was the brother no way. Please let’s use logic and explanation. It’s obvious whoever killed the little girl is a smart enough adult to kill her out of jealousy or rage who knows, and set up a scene.

[@deborahe9636]

Alex Harris that wouldn’t explain the dna of an UNIDENTIFIED male on her underwear 🤦‍♀️

[@PrincessOfSlytherin-df9je]

I’m sorry, but I just can’t make myself believe that the parents are innocent

[@Anna-gg1wp]

Father did it.

[@donnypuleo8167]

Burke

[@user-tw6bj4xx1l]

I think the father definitely is a part of it but I wonder if they are also covering for the brother to save the last child they have left because he felt left out.

[@renadiy2595]

Me too!!!!!!

[@WendyWatersctmm]

What happened to John Ramsay's first daughter?

[@pinchedominicana8845]

the interviewers all knew they were lying, just look at their expressions .😂

[@clararose673]

Fr tho 😂

[@ur_in_my_basement]

I love your pfp

[@pinchedominicana8845]

@@ur_in_my_basement ty

[@debrak8521]

The interviewers wouldn't know if they are lying or not, they are not detectives.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet, because you're all too busy bangin on with a load of Endless Rubbish about her whole family. The same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. The Same people who denigrate the Ramseys for a blink of an eye & accuse them of abuse for No sound reason as well as the accusations of vile acts against Both Kids plus the sadistic Murder of their adored 6 year old little girl. Then there's all those who are even Worse & say the Same about JB's 9 year old Kid brother. You all post your crap about this fine upstanding family who were In Fact - All Proven Innocent a Long Long time ago. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops! Only morons believe Patsy did That! Loads of you Make Up more stupid Shite & post about your ‘observations’ as if you are seasoned investigators working the case that Must Have happened Recently. LOL. Comment pages full of never ending mindless thought processes due to your severe Lack of Knowledge, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to a mountain of something called Evidence & by a bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does NOT Mean that it doesn't Exist. The Exoneration of all the Ramseys in 2008 was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All of you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important & so smart yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial & so, the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like You. Doh. Then there's the Industry of so-called 'experts' who say Whatever & you all lap it up with fervent Glee. You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If facts whilst at the same time dreaming up more BS & posting that As If factual too. Yawn. Some people have done actual Research, isn't that Shocking. You & your like watch TV shows full of False & misleading information & read books of BS & then repeat it all like well trained monkeys at a Zoo. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003 & which Means - NO Ramseys At All. You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@meghan______669]

They completely blew over the fact that johns other daughter died. It's probably not relevant, but it's a weird coincidence

[@georgialee6755]

Meghan Johns older daughter died in a car accident it has nothing to do with this murder except the fact there is no way John did it as he already knew how bad it was to lose a child

[@aa-dj9br]

agree

[@Shiwwy]

There was a story about this daughter, that she spoke about hooded men who touched her when she was young. Never found the source of this claim

[@harrylieber94]

Personally, I think the brother did it. He looks so creepy in that Dr. Phil interview. His parents just covered up for him.

[@thomasec8]

harrylieber He has a worried smirk

[@angelamac6205]

harrylieber but yet again he was probably uncomfortable, I mean he was 9 when he heard his sister was dead, he probably didn't know how to cope with it. Especially since he was probably sleeping at the time and probably when he did the interview he felt like he could've done something to save her. Besides I don't think a 9 year old boy would have the much force to knock out a little girl. But I'm not sure, so your opinion may be right, idk .

[@thomasec8]

Angela Panda Maybe his mother did because when they found the ransom note they passed it around and it got peoples DNA on it. Plus we don't know why there would be an extra note in the moms notebook

[@kimberlyfry7161]

harrylieber her brother should have an autism diagnosis. parents too busy following sisters pageant queen lifestyle. 20 years ago many children slipped by without any autism diagnosis but I can see he is definitely on the spectrum

[@sunshine11931]

Either that or he knows what happened. It has to be one of the two.

[@ClaudiaCATT]

the parents looked like they tried hard to interfere with evidence tbh

[@belindahudd2464]

Gosh am I glad I have the family I have . God bless that poor little darling girl 🙏🏼🧚🦋🌸🌼🐞🍄🌻🌈

[@kalina9271]

right!! like when John "found" her body (like he didnt place her there before hand) he instantly took her upstairs and took the duct tape off her mouth

[@LoveFitsAll]

Yes. It's all of them

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet, because you're all too busy bangin on with a load of Endless Rubbish about her whole family. The same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. The Same people who denigrate the Ramseys for a blink of an eye & accuse them of abuse for No sound reason as well as the accusations of vile acts against Both Kids plus the sadistic Murder of their adored 6 year old little girl. Then there's all those who are even Worse & say the Same about JB's 9 year old Kid brother. You all post your crap about this fine upstanding family who were In Fact - All Proven Innocent a Long Long time ago. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops! Only morons believe Patsy did That! Loads of you Make Up more stupid Shite & post about your ‘observations’ as if you are seasoned investigators working the case that Must Have happened Recently. LOL. Comment pages full of never ending mindless thought processes due to your severe Lack of Knowledge, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to a mountain of something called Evidence & by a bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does NOT Mean that it doesn't Exist. The Exoneration of all the Ramseys in 2008 was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All of you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important & so smart yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial & so, the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like You. Doh. Then there's the Industry of so-called 'experts' who say Whatever & you all lap it up with fervent Glee. You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If facts whilst at the same time dreaming up more BS & posting that As If factual too. Yawn. Some people have done actual Research, isn't that Shocking. You & your like watch TV shows full of False & misleading information & read books of BS & then repeat it all like well trained monkeys at a Zoo. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003 & which Means - NO Ramseys At All. You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@bethryan9077]

@@LoveFitsAll The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@ladymire]

7:06 “I aM a cAnCeR sUrvIvOR-“ so am I but how is that even relevant to your daughters death 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@MeisoKun]

So true i swear

[@cearachavez1295]

And then she’s like did you suspect each other? And they answered so fast as if they’re working together to hide it. I doubt they were the “happy family” they’re trying to portray

[@jefferyepstein5575]

She literally changes the subject

[@st.seraph]

She does it to make her seem more innocent and to change the subject. "Did you kill her?" "I'm fragile from cancer, there's no way." Is basically what she was saying.

[@abigailmcphersonrubio8186]

@@st.seraph I like your pfp

[@laughingvoids]

Interviewer: It could have been either of you, these are the two motives tha- Patsy: *Lemme tell you something I survived stage 4 cancer and standing on the brink of death as I survived stage 4 cancer*

[@clairem6368]

lava lamp lmao

[@sheryll1536]

I was trying to understand the point of what she was saying

[@mervinprone]

It was Burke, he hit her intentionally but killed her accidentally

[@Simplysilla27]

Jack Martin I've read a whole bunch saying he did it and that Jon Benet & Burke were eating pineapple & milk she ate hers and Burke was eating his and she took one and he did it and his parents covered it up

[@Simplysilla27]

I read a bunch of articles*

[@unamed2516]

Jack Martin he was asleep in his bed he couldn't have killed her why would he intentionally want to hit his sister?

[@VintageRose75]

Kiara Thompson They only said he was asleep in his bed, but his voice can be heard on the 911 call Patsy made.

[@MacMonster28]

Burke is obviously going to lie and say he was asleep but i think he hit her with the flashlight but accidentally killed her so the parents created a crime scene to protect Burke. Burke is known to have done horrible things to Jon Benet in the past so theres no reason why he couldnt of lashed out on her and hit her when she took his pineapple. He has issues, its pretty obvious.

[@Sama-ut4mg]

We need sherlock holmes. Now.

[@marijamilos3402]

Sama Tarek and Batman

[@Cris-zm9lt]

And Horatio caine

[@syeirlim.r6689]

How about detective conan?

[@SF-pj6xv]

Quincy Is Dead Inside or monk lol

[@avap5911]

Quincy Is Dead Inside your right

[@mahaleywoods2754]

Anyone still watching 2019

[@Gypsy839]

Yes and I still want to know more about this case!

[@mikilmyers]

Me

[@bobinbuckley]

Me, and if I get more clues I might be able to solve this

[@maddygachalife2463]

MEEEE!!!!!!!!!

[@mauryagupta6024]

I knew this case just few days ago through KZbin. I am in Indonesia.

[@nikkigulayan3754]

Nothing adds up here though. She needs justice. I feel like the family is lying.

[@super_styelzz9041]

Nikki Gulayan pog

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet, because you're all too busy bangin on with a load of Endless Rubbish about her whole family. The same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. The Same people who denigrate the Ramseys for a blink of an eye & accuse them of abuse for No sound reason as well as the accusations of vile acts against Both Kids plus the sadistic Murder of their adored 6 year old little girl. Then there's all those who are even Worse & say the Same about JB's 9 year old Kid brother. You all post your crap about this fine upstanding family who were In Fact - All Proven Innocent a Long Long time ago. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops! Only morons believe Patsy did That! Loads of you Make Up more stupid Shite & post about your ‘observations’ as if you are seasoned investigators working the case that Must Have happened Recently. LOL. Comment pages full of never ending mindless thought processes due to your severe Lack of Knowledge, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to a mountain of something called Evidence & by a bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does NOT Mean that it doesn't Exist. The Exoneration of all the Ramseys in 2008 was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All of you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important & so smart yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial & so, the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like You. Doh. Then there's the Industry of so-called 'experts' who say Whatever & you all lap it up with fervent Glee. You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If facts whilst at the same time dreaming up more BS & posting that As If factual too. Yawn. Some people have done actual Research, isn't that Shocking. You & your like watch TV shows full of False & misleading information & read books of BS & then repeat it all like well trained monkeys at a Zoo. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003 & which Means - NO Ramseys At All. You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@GERTTV-jt2vm]

The mother said he could be hiding for weeks we would find him . And how come did the father found the body that fast

[@utcougar]

They never had a reason to search the whole home. Only when a child is missing does it warrant a search. Someone could be in the basement for weeks without anyone living their in the know

[@Diamond92189]

Right!! John and patsy did it

[@debrak8521]

Yes he found her about 7 hours later ok.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Diamond92189 This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet, because you're all too busy bangin on with a load of Endless Rubbish about her whole family. The same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. The Same people who denigrate the Ramseys for a blink of an eye & accuse them of abuse for No sound reason as well as the accusations of vile acts against Both Kids plus the sadistic Murder of their adored 6 year old little girl. Then there's all those who are even Worse & say the Same about JB's 9 year old Kid brother. You all post your crap about this fine upstanding family who were In Fact - All Proven Innocent a Long Long time ago. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops! Only morons believe Patsy did That! Loads of you Make Up more stupid Shite & post about your ‘observations’ as if you are seasoned investigators working the case that Must Have happened Recently. LOL. Comment pages full of never ending mindless thought processes due to your severe Lack of Knowledge, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to a mountain of something called Evidence & by a bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does NOT Mean that it doesn't Exist. The Exoneration of all the Ramseys in 2008 was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All of you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important & so smart yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial & so, the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like You. Doh. Then there's the Industry of so-called 'experts' who say Whatever & you all lap it up with fervent Glee. You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If facts whilst at the same time dreaming up more BS & posting that As If factual too. Yawn. Some people have done actual Research, isn't that Shocking. You & your like watch TV shows full of False & misleading information & read books of BS & then repeat it all like well trained monkeys at a Zoo. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003 & which Means - NO Ramseys At All. You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@bubbie4146]

did anyone notice at the end how the mom said HE could be hiding for a week and wouldn't find HIM.. how would she know the killers gender..

[@talialouise5936]

ava nicole because she was raped? By a man?

[@capibara3]

@@talialouise5936 that was never conclusive.

[@radziklvp3442]

She put Christmas trees up in every room so I think she would find him

[@patruddick1946]

who was looking after their kids ,when they went out .

[@8luvbug]

To be fair when a kid has been kidnapped or murder most people would assume that a male male did it

[@cindyduangmala554]

i don't believe it they don't seem like they are hurt this mother didn't shed a tear when speaking

[@bobinbuckley]

They're trying to stay strong, also since it's been so long I guess they're immuned to it or something like that

[@laylaspears]

She said “I HaD CaNCEr” girl no one cares that is irrelevant. The parents are sus as hell, like nothing they say adds up at all.

[@ghostsmiley267]

Feel like the mom was jealous so she did the job the mom and dad the brother acts like he did not now anything but kids at his age are bad liars dad found her quick

[@bethryan9077]

@@ghostsmiley267 The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@alwaysava9490]

The fact that this little girl had to go through this before she died is just tragic.

[@Celine_Sia]

The interview lady: People are suspicious because maybe you could've done i- Patty: IM A CANCER SURVIVOR...

[@celinahenderson5600]

😆right!? she came out of left field with that one!

[@lottiedicaprio952]

patsy*

[@okaysweetie8939]

..

[@laurenthompson2828]

From the Dr Phil interview with the brother, he knows something that he can't, or simply won't tell.

[@kyrenmiller4632]

I WANNA KNOW WHY HER BROTHER WON'T STOP SMILING! wtf is SO FUNNY??? Also what happened to John's 1st daughter,,,, how did she die at a young age as well?

[@twinqlez]

Kyren Miller car accident they said

[@rozalynussery4238]

She was 22 in a car accident with her boyfriend in Chicago at the time.

[@PickledThyme1]

Most 9 year olds can't full grasp the concept of death, so the poor kid was probably confused and wouldn't have known how to react.

[@presley-dj8nv]

Pickled Thyme you’d be surprised really, but a 9 year old surely knew enough about death, from movies,books,etc. However, a child wouldn’t be able to pull a public murder like this off, which is why many believe that the parents covered it up.

[@rhyfelwrDuw]

I wondered that too!

[@Ericthedon]

Couldn't they just take a lie detector test and get it over with

[@genaroamerica5741]

Wolf Eriic exactly that's what I was thinking

[@alsoknownas1439]

Lie detectors aren't always accurate. They just sense blood pressure and heart rate.

[@CINAMASTER1]

Lie detectors don't hold up in court

[@Goblinhandler]

Haven't you seen konosuba lie detectors don't do shit even magic ones

[@JessycaLunawoona]

Lie detectors cannot be used in court as evidence because they're so unreliable.

[@AirheadsAreRocking]

You realize that almost at the end when the woman asks “ did any of you suspect each other?” They talked over each other and seemed really nervous.

[@mrcoolguy2882]

time?

[@zdvxr]

It had to be a family member. The mother and father seem most likely

[@creativesparks2164]

2:26 really that's such a fake font of writing. With the squiggly lines. Look at the third word "we" the W is so fake and they are not all the same in the squiggly D in "daughter" it was meant to look like someone else's handwriting.

[@ThatGirlNamedAngel]

Creative Sparks I'm sure someone in the house used their left hand to make it look like another person's handwriting

[@DisneySecretSociety]

Absolutely! The note is what leaves me with zero doubt the parents were involved. There is only so much an untrained person can change their handwriting. By looking at Patsy's handwriting samples (which are now all online) it's SO clear she wrote the note. The handwriting, letter height and spacing is just much too much of a match. Then there's the odd words in the note she was known to use, movie references to films that had been airing on TV in Boulder, perfect English and regional references/slang despite being a "foreign faction", etc.

[@nicoleymacaroni]

Duh Sherlock

[@justaniceangel748]

the ransome note looked like a childs writing. some one was in that house hiding knew the layout of the house. they need a fresh eye on this case

[@zoeliane3133]

Cassie .lizotte kids don't know the exact amount of money their parents make?

[@jviraharris3632]

Zoe Boyd i agree. I think the mom knew the amount

[@doneishachristie2233]

Cassie .lizotte a 9 year old's handwriting doesn't look that way and his vocabulary isn't as developed of that of the writer.

[@buttahghost]

Just cause your hand writing looks bad doesn’t mean it’s from a little kid. I’m 15 and my handwriting looks like I’m 6

[@jen5868]

Zoe Boyd i do 😶

[@aliyah8293]

Even if it wasn’t the ramseys, how did they not hear everything going on if they were inside the house?

[@lifeasmayaj829]

And still it showed there was no type of break in

[@Lucky4991]

I think the did it but their bedroom was on the 3rd floor

[@sandrag330]

Their bedroom was customized. They had it sound proof.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@Estherdiana11]

Y’all need to put this family on a high upgrade lie detector and ask them questions about this situation

[@byslexicditch9604]

OMG YES

[@Diamond92189]

YESSSS 💯💯💯💯

[@SchindlersFiist]

They did. And passed.

[@SchindlersFiist]

Although all those are bullshit anyway

[@debrak8521]

Essie's World The Ramsey's took 2 lie detector tests. The first one was inconclusive and the second one they passed.

[@shelbyensumundo2681]

The parents have something to do with this

[@hannahwasserman3480]

I think its the father... he immediately looked for a escape route...

[@Diamond92189]

Yup 💯💯💯💯

[@zovalentine7305]

It's gotta be all in the family, that I believe

[@mandycookie5080]

I agree, guilty, disgusting greed

[@giovannerodriguez5632]

When she was hit in the head with the flashlight, it was about, I believe, not so sure, 45 mins - 3 hours before she was strangled. So whoever did it hit her on conscious first and then strangled her after. My theory on who did it was the brother and then the mom finished it off. The bowl of pineapple and milk had Burks DNA and Patsy's also. I believe JonBenet came down the steps, went to Burks plate and grab a piece of pineapple with her finger. Burk got mad as we all do sometimes when someone touches our food; we were all kids and been at this point. He hits JonBenet with the flashlight intentionally. Patsy gets scared as if JonBenet is dead and instead of losing both her kids, she covers up for him. She writes a 3 page ransom note which no one ever writes a ransom note in someones house with their paper. That's a big no. On top of that, it's Patsy's handwriting, just left handed! Then she strangles JonBenet and makes it seem like she was strangled. Now about the DNA in her underwear and nails could be from the day of the party. Someone probably sexually assaulted her and told her not to tell her parents or they would kill her, and what she did is fell asleep. I mean, the family is too suspicious for me. The murder weapons (flashlight and paintbrush) are bother owned by the Ramsey's. They invite all the friends over to a crime scene which is logically something no one does or should do. Then, John finds her a immediately removes the tape and picks her up. No one does that shit. Lets not forget the undigested pineapples found in JonBenets digestive system as some pointed out above. I mean it's just obvious.

[@redeemedharshsw209]

Giovanne Rodriguez WHO ARE THEY?? AND WHAT DID PATSEY RAMSEY MEAN BY THEY GOT HER??

[@Ada-yb6nx]

This totally makes sense like their is a big amount of evidence.

[@aimakeflamez547]

Society is covering up for them

[@factisfact9426]

Giovanne Rodriguez on point! This is exactly what happened!

[@waheedamohammed6989]

Apparently that person ( intruder) had lots of time on their hands it doesn't make sense.

[@heidyfloresromero979]

I wish they had security cameras we could've just watched it and figured out

[@nyac652]

That would be scary tbh

[@sanyariverdale2855]

😂😂, I don't mean to find this comment funny, but this case is honestly so dark, we need some positivity in the comment section...

[@sanyariverdale2855]

@KZbin breaks The 1st amendment Well I was only trying to lighten the mood, I don't mean to be rude 🤷‍♀️

[@cayleece7890]

Lol, even if they did, they would probably turn them off. But, that would make it more suspicious! Lol

[@teresalinton5898]

they probably still would have gotten away with it

[@pinchedominicana8845]

Jonbenets mom: “Honey let me tell you something, I’m a cancer survivor of stage 4 cancer” *gets cancer again and dies*

[@krystalthompson6323]

Yeahhhh that didn’t end well....

[@cayleece7890]

OOF.

[@officialreginaelizabeth]

Karma

[@soulaanlioness]

If only it had happened the first time

[@zulyherreramonegro6827]

Word

[@phyllisowens5221]

When the dad talks about it he drops his eyes to the side down just like a glance of thought to me he was remembering something

[@hailey7258]

I really feel like the dad did it, he literally dragged his daughters body upstairs, he didn’t call for the police he just dragged her

[@hailey7258]

Lily Evans wait I thought you died, damn my husband lied

[@hailey7258]

Lily Evans your son

[@pyroshayniac1090]

I always thought it was the mom. She is frightening.

[@kailees2983]

ShaySmiles ikr??

[@salvadorhernandez2639]

Even if it was her she is dead now so no one can do anything about it

[@zendokai1527]

Could shit on the mom's grave...

[@stacyr4768]

The mom was weird putting all that makeup on a child but she obviously was living through her daughter, so doubt she would kill her

[@xanthederpydiscodancer1822]

The mom was total using the sick card!

[@reagantaysom8916]

It was definitely the father! I mean he tried to leave right after he was caught!!

[@thekookiebrown696]

They didn’t test the parents handwriting! Dummies!!! 😣😤

[@mohashintasfiya4305]

TheKookie Brown they did

[@lemonada4714]

They did, it was her mother handwriting but she denies

[@rebeccaaynes5076]

Everyone knows it was someone in the family who did it. I suspect burk and/or patsy

[@Alliesvoid]

She was buried really close to where I live😭

[@federalbureauinvestigation7667]

flexible allie really

[@hayleyjones4489]

flexible allie *says sarcastically* thats not creepy at all

[@pyroshayniac1090]

Pay her a visit for me.

[@camrynwinn971]

flexible allie me too

[@kendallrosedanley596]

angelitaramos2102 the location of we're she was buried was released but not caught on video but pictures of her were taken before she was buried

[@kawaiiartistgamer7781]

Have they accused the son yet? He could've done it...

[@sunshine11931]

I don't think it was the brother....he was only nine at the time, I don't see how he would have been capable of that. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the two siblings were bickering when he accidently hurt her leading to her death and the parent's covered it up to protect him.

[@kawaiiartistgamer7781]

sunshine11931 Yeah but some times the sons are "innocent" when they showed the clip of him grown up and on the talk show he looked really uncomfortable like he was hiding something....

[@sunshine11931]

Kawaii Artist Gamer Yeah I know what you mean. He was acting creepy when Dr. Phil interviewed him. I just meant if it was the brother that I think it was an accident and the parents covered it up. But he knows something for sure. I think it was either him or her knows who did it.

[@poopy131]

yeah but then who wrote the ransom note?

[@CoDinksYT]

sunshine11931 Kids are capable with such a crime. There have been many times where kids younger who have done terrible things.

[@susymejia93]

This reminds me of the criminal minds episode where the parents cover up their youngest son death (WHO WAS ALSO FOUND IN THE BASEMENT!), and go on television and everything trying to find the “killer” when in reality it was the older son who killed their little baby. They were covering up for their older son, they knew he had killed their baby and still covered up for him. Very similar.

[@amina-ed1nt]

Can u tell me the name of the case?

[@renadiy2595]

@@amina-ed1nt yes me too plz

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@kalyaaa3273]

she was so beautiful and precious.....

[@donyanasser1674]

4:58 "Back in boulder" Me: FROM YOUR ROOMMATE BACK IN BOULDER WE AINT EVER GETTIN OLDER

[@mitziivette6768]

Donya Ren same

[@angel-iu6wj]

Donya Ren me too

[@4awesomekids542]

Donya Ren Q

[@miab2176]

does anyone realise that the last part is very ironic "we aint ever getting older" like shes dead, she cant get older...

[@crybabyandjoshleratthedisc7225]

Donya Ren same 😱😁😁😁😂😂😂

[@liza4eva908]

Our world is just sick!!! Rest in peace little JonBenet

[@ЭшлиНиколь]

Liza 4EVA!!!!! I know this comment is a year old I just wanted to say I love your profile pic

[@huskyman1061]

it is the brother because there was pineapple on the table and the brother was eating it then jonbenet came down and had some to he got anoyyed and took a torch on the table and hit her on the head but did not mean to kill her

[@shannon4407]

husky man 10 what is a torch

[@SmallApple33]

But there was evidence that there was a sexual assault, how do you explain that?

[@xalexflanaganx]

husky man 10 What a pile of shite

[@Emma-dc1eq]

she was strangled to death though, so the flashlight wasn't the reason why she died.

[@mthorntonwolfe]

If ya watch the interview when Burke was 11 (detective or psychologist, I don't remember), he casually sits in a chair and talks about how much he and JonBenet loved pineapple in milk. Moments later, when shown a photo of the bowl of pineapple, he has no fuckin' clue what it could possibly be. "It looks like ... oh... something" That "... oh..." is the moment he realized no one believed he was just layin' in bed all night.

[@nycgirltee]

I’ve always thought it was her parents or brother it’s almost impossible to see otherwise

[@nmsgaming247]

they honestly sound like they rehearsed it at their house before the interview therefore i think that johnn did it bc he found her straight away he booked a flight to get away the ransom note knew exactly how much money he had hmmmm??

[@zara-hv7ff]

I think it was Burke, he hit her accidentally (because kids do that) I think they got into a fight over the pineapple dessert, or its because Burke was jealous of her. So when their parents found out about Burke their parents (or possibly Burke) wrote the ransom note.

[@oglomeri]

Lybi who raped her

[@alyssavanlandingham9534]

zara would a 9 year old sexually abuse and sting his sister with a stun gun tho? lol I think it was a group of people that had a conflict with John and he knew that he was somehow responsible.

[@isabellaperez2856]

Why would he rape her and tease her

[@chandrowtiesingh137]

So much of acting denying, just speak the truth for God sake and the whole thing will make sense

[@jessielemon2477]

So you experienced what is it like being on the verge of life and death and claimed to know what is the most important thing in life? Your behaviour of not corresponding 100% with the police investigation, instead getting on CNN, or submitting your little child in beauty pageants did not seem so congruent with what you hold close to heart. Also what kind of mother wears lipstick and contouring 3 days after her baby girl's gruesomely murdered? Both the parents are weird. The boy showed no grief during the interview's also weird.

[@cliodhnashields4534]

Patsy is so full of bullshit. I mean you cover up your daughters death, and let your son get involved! I mean she had to have covered it up and the dad and brother definitely know what happened.

[@aa-dj9br]

sad for daughters

[@avreekhan1838]

Did anybody notice at 7:47 she said “he “ could be hidden for a week

[@sherenay3109]

Yep

[@ekbrandon93]

1:49 "They lawyered up right away." I'm not necessarily defending them here, but I don't know why so many people think that you're guilty if you get a lawyer. There are a number of cases of police using unethical interview tactics to get false confessions out of people who don't have a lawyer with them. Personally, I don't think I'd ever agree to be interviewed by police without a lawyer.

[@DeviliciousNails]

Tbh I think the parents have a part in it. I'm not even close to being an expert, so I wouldn't know, but her parents are behaving in such a suspicious way...

[@zendokai1527]

LOl great observation Sherlock! You should join the force asap... Christ >_>

[@DeviliciousNails]

Relax, it's just a comment on a KZbin video. No need to get your knickers in a twist...

[@bobbybobby3232]

The killer knew Mr. Ramsey pretty well and knew his business dealing.

[@zendokai1527]

Its almost as if the killer was married to him and had his account information or something... *Shifty eyes* Keep working on the case Bobby Bobby, I'm sure you'll solve it in no time! *Laughs hard inside at stupid ass plebs on youtube*

[@speakerebox]

@@zendokai1527 I’M GAGGIN!!!!!

[@kidlele93]

Why does the father sound like the bagel from sausage party

[@kyndall.k1]

Burke was able to describe what he thought to the physiologist so vividly.

[@landonpiper4171]

Everybody else just gonna ignore that it was a 15 ROOM mansion

[@mariamalmosawi4419]

YES because no one cares about that and ONLY care about finding that little girls killer.

[@rodymcevoy45]

I found it suspicious that the mother said he could have been hidden for a week

[@chloecraft542]

The random note said "she is safe " SHE WAS DEAD NOT CLOSE TO THE PERSON THAT WROTE IT

[@charleneosborne6384]

I've always been fascinated with this case. One thing I don't understand is how the Ramseys refused to do interviews with the police???? I'm from England UK and you would not have that option here you can't refuse a police interview they will take you into custody and keep you there until you do the interview it absolutely baffles me???? If this happened in the UK they would have definitely solved the case or came very close to it, police here are so different. I've been arrested and u can't just refuse a interview and go on with your day to day life!!!? Personally I think Burke was involved but even if the parents covered it up, the gorot etc pretty brutal I couldn't ever do it if in the same position.

[@wooosh8712]

Charlene Nash the parents weren't arrested tho...so I guess why they could refuse to speak to the police

[@zendokai1527]

Charlene... Not being able to refuse a police interview is an infringement on your rights... Oh wait you're English... Oh ya didn't we create this country to get away from your country's retarded ass way of doing things? Oh ya... Fuck England, fuck you, and fuck all the people in your country that let your government pretty much take away your fuckin' rights and enslave you. It'll only be worse for your grandchildren, fuck outta here with your stupid ass "This is how we do it in Britain and everyone else should copy us" little novel on youtube comments, liberal bitch.

[@candeeyyy9120]

zendokai wow i bet your life sucks so much that you had to insult other country. what a sicktard

[@maya-uz9cg]

zendokai imagine being so pathetic that you have to go on youtube and blame people for something that happened years ago.

[@dellivera]

That's how money and politics work.

[@nevaeh9961]

Here’s my thing the father went to the basement soon as a detective told him to search from top to bottom of his house. If he didn’t know where his daughter was then why did he go straight to a basement. Let that sink in

[@VultchInc]

Your taught to search from the ground up....

[@nevaeh9961]

@@VultchInc Ik but it was just weird to me that he went straight to the basement of the home and found her immediately

[@taylorferrell4265]

heres my theory: the dad "kidnapped" her. because he wanted to leave, he found the body very quickly, the ransome note had a lot of information about their family, he didn't act as sad as the mother, and there's so much more. And my guess is that he used his wife's paint/notebook and he wore her jacket to frame her. or it was the brother, because he seemed to take it lightly, and he was very discriptive with the person

[@laylajohnson7994]

So sad poor baby

[@-leah3783]

I have a feeling it was her brother he didn't seem sad and he was highly detailed on what he thought happened to his sister .

[@DickRiderrrr]

He has ADHD

[@lauragutierrez4784]

What about the security video cameras, Don't tell me these millionaires didn't have any????!

[@tomasgaspar8065]

Only a person who knew there were no security cameras would commit the crime.

[@heyreemy]

The thing even scarier about this is when they talk about her they don't even seem sad like they're unmoved by it.

[@michaelhoggarth89]

I would never exploite my child like that.... Dressing her up in fancy clothes and make-up... Let your children be children.....

[@kailees2983]

Notice how there’s never any spotlight on the son, not in any magazines, interviews, or anything.

[@Beachandpool]

Yes, you guys were protecting Burke. That's why you covered it up.

[@aimeflanagan2602]

“They’re very grief stricken” Please.

[@rawanalkadri1324]

ah yes, she survived cancer of course she couldn't have done it!

[@livp2085]

this is very very similar to the madeline mcann case, parents were accused and didn't seem that bothered and kind of edgy when questioned

[@tinyprincess9]

How did an intruder have time to walk around the house and find her stationary and use her items, without waking someone up? Was the “intruder” just sitting at their kitchen table writing this ransom letter while everyone was sleeping? This is weird. And I’m surprised no one has found the parents or Burke and threatened them, for answers. This is just sick. It’s sick that no one will ever come out and admit it. Maybe on their deathbed they will?

[@squidney]

It was the freaking parents. They wrote the note, and the dad sexually ABUSED his own daughter, and obviously had an amount close to the dad's bonus, damn this is crazy. Also the dad knew where Jon was

[@brightonwendel6812]

Its the dad he's crazy

[@REPULSlVECONVULSIVE]

I will never get over this case, it will forever haunt me. Never forget her...

[@jaleelivingston3226]

it was most definitely the family. they were still wearing the same clothes they wore to the party and the hand writing on the note is similar to the mothers. there’s no way the father went straight to the body on accident. there’s also a very small chance that someone else knew exactly how much the father got as a bonus except for the family themselves. the reason the brothers assumption is so detailed is because he was there (maybe lol just my opinion) un digested pineapple was in her stomach which means she didn’t go to sleep or she woke up and ate the pineapple, which could’ve been her brothers, so then he could’ve hit her a little to hard and knocked her out. just a conspiracy, butttt

[@user-lz5nd8lh8b]

and when the father found the body he picked it up and threw a blanket on it, ruining tons of evidence. they had it all planned. it’s such a sad story.

[@bethryan9077]

@@user-lz5nd8lh8b This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet, because you're all too busy bangin on with a load of Endless Rubbish about her whole family. The same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. The Same people who denigrate the Ramseys for a blink of an eye & accuse them of abuse for No sound reason as well as the accusations of vile acts against Both Kids plus the sadistic Murder of their adored 6 year old little girl. Then there's all those who are even Worse & say the Same about JB's 9 year old Kid brother. You all post your crap about this fine upstanding family who were In Fact - All Proven Innocent a Long Long time ago. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops! Only morons believe Patsy did That! Loads of you Make Up more stupid Shite & post about your ‘observations’ as if you are seasoned investigators working the case that Must Have happened Recently. LOL. Comment pages full of never ending mindless thought processes due to your severe Lack of Knowledge, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to a mountain of something called Evidence & by a bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does NOT Mean that it doesn't Exist. The Exoneration of all the Ramseys in 2008 was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All of you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important & so smart yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial & so, the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like You. Doh. Then there's the Industry of so-called 'experts' who say Whatever & you all lap it up with fervent Glee. You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If facts whilst at the same time dreaming up more BS & posting that As If factual too. Yawn. Some people have done actual Research, isn't that Shocking. You & your like watch TV shows full of False & misleading information & read books of BS & then repeat it all like well trained monkeys at a Zoo. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003 & which Means - NO Ramseys At All. You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@salazar556]

I believe either the father murdered her or the brother accidentally did and the mother covered it up.

[@aestheticpickles3630]

Also I would just like to say JonBenet means "Gift from God" And that's how we will always remember her :)

[@user-lz5nd8lh8b]

aww that’s so sweet. i didn’t know that 🥺

[@mandycookie5080]

He got bad karma and lost all his money after he did this to her

[@jadamorgan197]

I haven’t watched much but have anyone ever thought that it could have been a close friend/co worker of the father that had a secret fascination with baby girl? Someone that was at the Christmas party and either left early before the Ramsey’s or followed them home and knew a way to get in? I mean it makes a little more sense than the parents or brother doing it. Mom- has daughter following her footsteps, little money maker. Worth more alive than dead. Dad- his little princess that is making him proud. Especially after losing one of his daughters already. Brother- behavioral issues because all the attention was on his sister. From parents, the world, and is sisters face is everywhere.

[@haleydawn9505]

My moms coworker/friend was Jonbenet's pageant trainer... she was such a sweetheart and such an intelligent young lady. R.I.P baby girl💕

[@littlestellabell]

Keeping up with this case for years I've finally come to a decision. The father did it. I believe that she was sexually abused often and probably that one night she was probably struggling too much and the dad accidentally hit her head too hard and knocked her out. He panicked, called his wife and probably threatened her into covering it up by telling her they'll both go to jail or something. The mom then proceeded to plant evidence by strangling her (not knowing she was still alive because if they had taken her to the doctor they would've been exposed) and writing the fake note. Then they schooled the kid on how to answer the press and what to say. If you look at their interviews careful, their main goal is keeping the attention off them as suspects. You're so sad and devastated that your daughter has been murdered and the first thing the dad does is secretly call him pilot to get him out the country? They refuse to talk to the police and they look so scripted. Also did you guys notice how fast they tried to push the theory that the house was so big that they wouldn't know if someone was hiding in it?

[@niece1509]

Yet the father found her first 🙄

[@bethryan9077]

None of that is true. - From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic. These 2 left town within the week. One was 17 at the time & came to the U.S. from Puerto Rico when younger with his family. The other one was 24, white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a Long time ago.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@mariareginamartinezpadilla6694]

Notice how the note says MR. RAMSEY?!? directed ONLY to the father...

[@ozzyrandoms2162]

Does it not strike anyone as odd that John Ramsey already has a deceased child

[@maemae4801]

I have a feeling it’s the dad and the brother 1. The dad didn’t like jonbenet doing beauty pageants and wanted her to not do them anymore 2. The brother it was on accident

[@nd1565]

everybody’s talking about the note, i’m taking about the string which was only found in burke’s boy scouts

[@RAINBOWPOO-gc9sh]

It was an accident out of Burke's rage