JonBenet Ramsey's brother claims the network falsely implicated him in a four-hour documentary about her murder 20 years ago.
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@kevin62937 жыл бұрын
The phrase "six year old beauty queen" should not even exist.
@blu40857 жыл бұрын
Never heard a more spot on accurate statement. It sounds repugnant, repulsive and mentally warped to use such a phrase.
@joejones69687 жыл бұрын
Better yet...the phrase : " six yr old Murdered" Shouldn't have ever happened period.
@berja38957 жыл бұрын
Exactly. She was a 6 year old LITTLE GIRL. A daughter, a sister. Most of us can sympathize with their horrendous loss. RIP JonBenet RIP also for Patsy who died not knowing who did this to her child smh so sad
@amyamyamy2337 жыл бұрын
berja. nope! I cannot sympathize with their loss. because a loss insinuates an accident. something that they had no control over. JonBenet was not lost she was murdered she was tortured. I don't sympathize with those people at all. and as long as people continue to sympathize with child murderers they will always continue to exist and continue to hurt kids. just like the people that murder their kids by leaving them in a car. that is never an accident. it is always murder. you might forget a kid for five minutes but to leave a kid in a car to die no. you totally forget a kid that you have taken care of for a day, a week, a month, six months, a year, 2 years or 3 years? bullshit, that is murder. but the murderers have realized that is a way to get out of child support or this is a way to hurt the X-partner and not go to prison as long as I cry on TV. the minute the first person got away with that crime it open the floodgates for all of the rest of the murderers to get away with it and that's exactly what's happening. just like the women that murdered their babies claiming postpartum depression the first bitch got away with it and open the floodgates for the rest of those whores to kill their kids and get away with it but if you notice once the first Justice decided to throw the bullshit flag and send a whore to prison for killing their kid siting postpartum depression have stopped. now you notice that no bitches are killing their kids anymore claiming postpartum depression because now they're like oh I might go to prison if I do this shit so amazingly they stopped. the same thing needs to happen with these monsters torturing and killing their kids by leaving them in the car. Start sending them to prison for life and you will see that they will start remembering their damn kids and kids will not be murdered in the damn car anymore. but unfortunately child rapist will always exist because they are a different type of creature no matter what you do too certain types of people they will always be evil so the only thing that you can do to them is simply kill them when they're discovered and people need to stop saying that nonsense that it is Revenge and not Justice or the silliness two wrongs don't make a right. rapists and murderers need to die.
@berja38957 жыл бұрын
They had nothing to do with the "murder" of their own child. People need to get off the ignorance train and actually go back to the very beginning, don't read the media hype- read what the Ramsey's said-NOT what the media misconstrued in their zeal to convict someone, ANYONE, for this horrendous crime..... I agree, rapists and murderers SHOULD die, they DESERVE to die, they committed a crime & justice needs to be upheld but the Ramsey's had nothing to do with it, Not Patsy, not John, not Burke, not anyone in the Ramsey clan period. The police f'ed the case up from day one and from the first moment they stepped into that household.
@nadinenoreiga98715 жыл бұрын
The documentary highlighted every single important details they never even bothered to look at. Its sad to know that the justice systen failed her. This case need to be reopened.
@mahnazha5 жыл бұрын
I agree!!! Very powerful analyzation.
@mahnazha5 жыл бұрын
@@usaf2226 What douche bag you are! I bet you're a bully. You know it is a proven fact that people like you have mental issues. Work on them first. then come here for opinions.
@fayelien5 жыл бұрын
@Mike will calm down a bit here, i respect your opinion, but as what I know, the brain and heart has their own functions, when someone gets bloated or hit intensely on the head, breaking the skull, it wouldn't instantly kill the person, the person's heart will still function, that's why the suspect strangled her to death. And the DNA that was found on her undies ain't a proof that she got rapedー if she were raped, then there would be bloodー or straight up, different fluids, but there's none. The DNA that's found was the DNA from her wearing the new undies, or from the manufacturers of it. If she got raped, then why did the suspect decided to do it on their house rather than actually KIDNAPPING JonBenet and left a 3-page 'ransom note'? how could the suspect break in, if they couldn't even really fit on the window as what the case stated? If the suspect went in by the window, then the webs and dusts and all of that would wipe out, plus the space of the window is really really small, if the suspect had break in, it would wipe out all the webs from the window(it has pictures from the actual crime scene it obviously can't be possible if a random spider just made a really old-looking web on the window of the basement at the time after the suspect did their job, right?), as when the suspect would, obviously, slide into the window due to the small space. And there were to signs that someone broke inー the dusts didnt spread out at the opening of the window, and when the suspect would come out from where he broke in, then the suspect would completely clean that spot. I am not saying that there WEREN'T people who looked at Jonbenet in a sexual way, or basically building up sexual desiresー but I am stating the logical sense here.
@fayelien5 жыл бұрын
Plus she didn't have marks or her wrists where she's 'tied up'
@mahnazha5 жыл бұрын
@@usaf2226 Tough! You hate it! A lot of people like it. It's time to learn that people are different and have different personalities. As long as they don't hurt you, they are entitled to their own account, photos, social media, opinions, and life in general. For all we know this person can have a beautiful personality and a much better life than you and me. So why are you being so disrespectful and a bully? Stop that.
@harleyquinn13297 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be funny if he sued for 118 thousand dollars?
@veryangrybees83597 жыл бұрын
Harley Quinn Bruh
@karenlittle31217 жыл бұрын
Harley Quinn the rich get richer
@anewvoice97127 жыл бұрын
That was one of the first things that really indicated that it was an inside job. John Ramsey is worth millions. If it were an actual kidnap attempt, no kidnapper in his right mind would as for $118,000 dollars, that's an insult. Little JonBenet probably made close to that in 6 months in her beauty pageants.
@ccisthesekxs7 жыл бұрын
As of right now you have 118 likes 😮
@1974Coconut7 жыл бұрын
or starts the lawsuit: "Listen carefully...!" and signs: S.B.T.C. Victory!
@Beefeater9114 жыл бұрын
Burke said the Docu-Series implicates him in a crime he was never charged with. He didn’t say it implicates him in a crime he didn’t commit.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
Deary, Burke was Never even a suspect & he did that interview with Dr Phil because that doc was due to be released & he wanted to defend himself & to tell the public that there was Never Any evidence against Any Ramsey. It was only After that Bogus doc was put on TV that all the endless Garbage started about him, from all the hateful numbskulls who don't know a damn thing True about the crime, the case Or about what Actually happened to JB. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long long time ago with a mountain of actual Evidence & by actual Experts.
@Beefeater9112 жыл бұрын
@@bethryan9077 yea sweetheart, and OJ is innocent too. The cops were incompetent, in both cases. No evidence of a break in. 2 practice ransom notes found in the kitchen trash can. Ransom note had phrases commonly used by Patsy. Ransom note, and practice ransom notes were in Patsy’s handwriting. “Kidnappers” happen to request a ransom of exactly what John had just received as a Christmas bonus - $118,000. Maybe Burke is innocent, but someone who lived in that house did this. No question about it sweet pea!
@MahlonEdwards2 жыл бұрын
Point. And reminds me of when Patsy answered a question with "I didn't do it. John didn't do it. We don't know who did it." She purposely did not include Burke in that response.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
@@MahlonEdwards I don't know how old you are, but Burke was Never a suspect so that's why she didn't mention him.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022
@skierslope17046 жыл бұрын
Who else wishes that Dr. Phil would have asked burke why he was smiling?
@MeMeAndWade5 жыл бұрын
Skier Slope Dr Phil answered that question if you watched the whole show about Burke !
@mahnazha5 жыл бұрын
I did not see a smile! I saw nervousness and he was extremely uncomfortable. That indicates something!
@maryellen79405 жыл бұрын
He was nervous and he probably thought if he smiled he would appear friendly. But you are too stupid to figure that out.
@terrymoore23415 жыл бұрын
He said why he thought he smiled.
@SourPatch15 жыл бұрын
He did
@thomasnoctor22936 жыл бұрын
Beauty pagents should be outlawed. They're sick and wrong.
@Seriouslygorgeous5 жыл бұрын
At least those were children are displayed.
@indigosungirl5 жыл бұрын
Pedophiles are sick and wrong
@robinluich55765 жыл бұрын
It's like the drag queen perversion shows but made for pedophiles.
@LM-eu8yr5 жыл бұрын
@@robinluich5576 Perversion? What?
@ducksforquack5 жыл бұрын
You cant ban something just because you don’t like it
@marquamfurniture7 жыл бұрын
Doesn't everyone smile and dart their eyes when asked if they killed their sister?
@dan_69156 жыл бұрын
John C That guy looks sick. Too bad that the truth can't be discovered.
@hunterkai67726 жыл бұрын
John C I have sever anxiety and shcizo personality disorder and i do things like that anytime I'm in a group of more than 3 people. There is a very good chance he developed a mental condition because of all this and having everyone calling him a murderer at 9 years old would do a lot of damage to a developing mind.
@bobbiejessica39066 жыл бұрын
Hunterkai thank you.
@yjfuykyil6 жыл бұрын
I suffered from an anxiety disorder and before I was able to get it under control and managed I used to, among other things, smile when socially anxious or severely distressed emotionally. Jumping to conclusions over something like this is idiotic, or at the very least demonstrates a significant lack of understanding of basic psychology.
@notsusoranythingbut38226 жыл бұрын
I dart my eyes if I'm lying... 😗
@dannylayton64414 жыл бұрын
“did you hit your sister with a flashlight?” burke: “no 😁”
@BumbleFryAnimates4 жыл бұрын
Lmfaaaaoooooooo
@dejacavu62594 жыл бұрын
The so called forensic old man (above clip) telling us she was hit also lied in the Casey Anthony case "Against" homicide and forensic specialist Dr. G who said Caley was murdered. Casey got off scot free :(
@Ashleyquintanillaofficial4 жыл бұрын
Plus he doesn’t give eye contact when he answers
@lonerkr14 жыл бұрын
I believe he is autistic
@mamas-jeep19843 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not.. then looks left w a huge smile on his face. A monster!! Imo.. so he can't sue me. I've never ever started laughing by telling the truth. Disgusting man
@flutterbutter8907 жыл бұрын
but the documentary shows good points
@drphot60507 жыл бұрын
Really, I haven't watched it yet
@flutterbutter8907 жыл бұрын
Mister Doctor you should. they make some very good explanations
@drphot60507 жыл бұрын
***** Ok... But I'll rather let you explain to me offline ;)
@luvmarjorie7 жыл бұрын
Lana Moffitt I just finished watching it and I'm obsessed. They explain so much.
@user-us1yu8gx9s7 жыл бұрын
ikr after all the research I've done it covers and explains all or nearly all of everything while all the other theories usually don't explain for something. thus makes the most senese
@jessieessex7 жыл бұрын
Many people thought it was Burke well before this docu drama aired.
@gc49827 жыл бұрын
jessie SX true. your pic is very beautiful by the way.
@nadinebrown76446 жыл бұрын
jessie SX the grand jury did.
@julz3tt36 жыл бұрын
jessie SX I did. For years
@msdag36 жыл бұрын
AGREED!!
@itsjohnny6285 жыл бұрын
My father did
@boomheadshot12657 жыл бұрын
The documentary made a lot of sense though
@kercchan33076 жыл бұрын
it was concocted by cbs to make money for cbs. they dont care if they ruin any lives. the case was settled over a decade ago, cbs was just desperate for a human interest storie to make $$$
@hannahs34456 жыл бұрын
kerc Chan the case was settled decades ago??? Who killed her then?
@johnb.86875 жыл бұрын
@Vincent Cuttolo Ill tell you what a Master sg in the Illinois police dept told me regarding the case. He said "John crimes like this in neighborhoods like that don't go unsolved for long".
@Casey_S5 жыл бұрын
@@tanyashah813 settled, not solved.
@johnb.86875 жыл бұрын
@Vincent Cuttolo Well you're wrong. With improvements in DNA we would have found him yesterday
@candyjohnson33024 жыл бұрын
Here’s a psychopath suing because he is being confronted with facts
@playenimplayenim63194 жыл бұрын
Actually here is a falsely accused person who is incredibly wealthy now. They settled out of court for hundreds of millions of dollars. If I were him, I would smile all the time too
@blondepinkie39873 жыл бұрын
Nope, the case was not “settled” for a payout, it was “settled” as in ended and Burke can not try to sue them again. Read the court documents! The case did not go past the discovery phase because the Ramsey team did not let it go past that point. They did not want to risk all the grand jury evidence being opened up again and brought out in court. Burke did NOT “win” or get a payout and the CBS documentary is still allowed to be aired!
@playenimplayenim63193 жыл бұрын
@@blondepinkie3987 they aired it before the lawsuit. I know for a fact that CBS did indeed settle.
@blondepinkie39873 жыл бұрын
@@playenimplayenim6319 you are mistaken, read the court documents! The documentary is STILL allowed to be aired NOW and Burke didn’t “win” anything. You think if he had just got millions like you claim that he would have sold his house and downgraded as much as he did? The court documents do not support what you are claiming whatsoever!
@blondepinkie39873 жыл бұрын
@matthew Dreyer nope, PLENTY of evidence he did it and his parents covered for him! The only reason he is not in jail is because he was under the minimum legal age for prosecution under Colorado law at the time he killed his sister! 🤷♀️
@rsattahip7 жыл бұрын
Doubt anyone at CBS is losing any sleep over this.
@iAquarius2027 жыл бұрын
Robin Sattahip I think you're right and for some reason I have a feeling this is going to back fire on Burke something bad.
@rsattahip7 жыл бұрын
Thanks,I spent 20 years in law enforcement and Boulder Police botched this terribly. Crimes like this with strangers rarely happen, a stranger would take taken her away. Also, for entertainment, Google the phrase "ransom note forged by mother" you don't even have to put the Ramsey name, and see what comes back.
@dawncampbell60647 жыл бұрын
Robin Sattahip PLUS The Boulder prosecutor ,was DEFINATELY shady ,either ,THREATEND,, or PAYED Off
@stfuplsok6 жыл бұрын
*DEFINITELY *THREATENED *PAID Off
@TriniLush76 жыл бұрын
Robin Sattahip lmao right!
@markelminions8507 жыл бұрын
he did it. parents covered. solved case.
@Zeldarw1046 жыл бұрын
Stop it! You have no right to be so slanderous, I don't believe he did it & you have no evidence. I hope (he) sues the shit out of "CBS"....that damn outlet should be a shamed, as well as you people!
@clementineurban96226 жыл бұрын
I dont get this how can you say there is no evidence there is more evidence that it was the family that it was an intruder explain me what kind of child kidnapper knows what he is gonna do and doest even come with a rescue note ready he just decides to write it while inside the house from a notebook that belongs to patsys and a fucking 3 page long one that would probably take him without thinking about the words probably 20 min to write and he had to think about the words and they found and that was the third time he is writing it since they found 2 more who the fuck would stay that long inside a house first evidence right there jonbenet had pinaple on her stomach still so she had to be killed probably in the following hour that she ate it so if the intruder was there he had to go to jonbenet room exactly as everyone went to bad since she had eaten for a while now and kill her instantly why do that and leave a ramsom note if you know that she is dead makes no sense what so ever. All the dna samples that proved the ramsey family inocent were discarded since the scene was contaminated at the time and dna on her underwear couldnt be proven to be from the murderer the only evidence that says there was an intruder its the ransom note that has a lot of similarities with patsys hand writting and was from her note pad there is a lot more evidence but this is already a long text as it is so i am not gonna add more its just sad she still didnt got any justice after so much time
@motherlaurav6 жыл бұрын
According to the actual head detective that was actually there at the actual crime scene when jonbenet's body was found actually dead believes that it was the father but I'm sure you're right and she's wrong...
@GunShard6 жыл бұрын
What happens if a hitman shot and killed Burke. Would justice be served? Or use the justice system which failed here.
@noelaandiamon33936 жыл бұрын
And that is why Burke will win this case against CBS because he will forever be branded as killer as strongly suggested by their docu.
@alanwhelan75345 жыл бұрын
It took approx. 20 minutes for the "intruder" to write the three page ransom note using stationary (pen & pad) owned by the Ramseys. That indicates it was written in the house. What self respecting "intruder" takes the time to do that?
@fayelien5 жыл бұрын
ikr, and TWO practice papers on the trash, then it probably, logically, took more than twenty minutes, and also mentioned a very specific amount of money, the suspect obvisouly know that the Ramsey family had lots of money, why didn't the suspect just said a million dollars?
@Raven.135 жыл бұрын
Well if an intruder came into the house while the Ramsey's were out to dinner. They would of had a couple of hours there to scope the place, write the letter. A creepy stalker with no where better to be.
@LM-eu8yr5 жыл бұрын
@@Raven.13 n Wong a court certified handwriting expert noted 200 similiarities between Patsy's writing and the note. Have you compared? It's impossible to tell the difference between Patsy's writing and the note. It's ASTONISHING!!!!
@LM-eu8yr5 жыл бұрын
@@Raven.13 And why would a kidnapper brutally murder her & leave her there? The purpose was supposed to be to get money. Kidnapper don't murder kids, leave them in the house along with obviously phony ransom notes that advice them to get rest. Who tells sleeping people to get rest? And what kidnapper cares if you're well rested?
@nbenefiel4 жыл бұрын
The DNA evidence points to “an unknown man”
@borrusimob5756 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much it costs to be publicly, "officially cleared as a suspect". This doesn't happen to poor people.
@Beachandpool5 жыл бұрын
100%
@rustinstardust20945 жыл бұрын
It doesn't?
@Beachandpool5 жыл бұрын
@@rustinstardust2094 why don't you name to whom it happen and they were poor....give ahead, smart alec
@rustinstardust20945 жыл бұрын
@@Beachandpool I actually wasn't being a smart alec. I was surprised you said this because I thought this was a standard thing.
@brittanymorley35223 жыл бұрын
@@rustinstardust2094 it is a standard thing, that guy is just being an asshat. You can literally google “cleared as a suspect” and so much will pop up. Ted bundy was once cleared as a suspect, so was the green river killer.
@linacvilikiene79895 жыл бұрын
Why he smiling all time. Creepy family. No one crying about JonBenet.
@beepboop94645 жыл бұрын
Patsy the mom cried quite a bit in the beginning
@kansasgoldilocks5 жыл бұрын
People smile out of nervousness or being uncomfortable and that's what I see. Why would you expect someone to still be crying 20 years later? I was very close to my grandparents who died about 10 years ago and I don't cry every time I talk about them.
@keiththedcfan36904 жыл бұрын
I smile when I’m nervous, lots of people do.
@tiffanicarter44374 жыл бұрын
Señor Romántico JonBenet wasn't raped. It's sad that her young little life was taken so early.
@CeeJay6114 жыл бұрын
Watch Dr Phil's response to Burke's body language. Some people smile because they are nervous and coming to speak to the public who have accused him for years can be nerve wracking. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it but body language experts can tell the difference between nervous laugh and guilty laugh
@REBUKED16 жыл бұрын
I don't know who did it, but Burke is super weird.
@Sammy-mp9xn5 жыл бұрын
Burke KILLED Jon Benet.😥.
@darlenepaul29345 жыл бұрын
He's autistic
@SpecialBlanket5 жыл бұрын
autism.
@pleumypleumy5 жыл бұрын
@@SpecialBlanket thought same thing..
@enternalmoonlight5 жыл бұрын
@@Sammy-mp9xn oh really?
@runningwild94234 жыл бұрын
The whole family is guilty in my eyes. Case closed.
@stlouisluv3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@katrinaellis23783 жыл бұрын
Only questions I would have had for John is did you know Patsy wrote the letter and Burke killed Jon Benet.
@katrinaellis23783 жыл бұрын
Software engineer..I said he was intelligent on my Twitter. Smart monster.
@jtreadw58443 жыл бұрын
@@katrinaellis2378 Clever little psycho
@whatatimetobealigned2 жыл бұрын
💯!!!
@nicphillips53717 жыл бұрын
So obvious it was Burke and parents covered it up
@jessicasnaplesfl74747 жыл бұрын
THAT'S why he's suing CBS for $750,000,000! Because after watching their documentary that presented only circumstantial evidence suggesting he might have been involved, millions of people like yourself think he is guilty! CBS FAILED TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE THAT EXONERATED HIM, despite calling themselves "journalists", implying they are objective and presenting all the facts! How would you like to spend your entire life with half the world thinking you killed your sister when you knew you didn't do it? BURKE was exonerated years before the documentary was produced.
@user-us1yu8gx9s7 жыл бұрын
Jessica S, NAPLES FL he was exonerated before when the police were doing a shit job. that means almost nothing.
@gc49827 жыл бұрын
he will have to talk and answer up to court in law suit cant wait. i heard fbi will be there
@nadinebrown76446 жыл бұрын
Jessica S, NAPLES FL no. That phone call that prove that Burke was awake when the Ramsey Calle the police wasn't circumstantial.
@Swnsasy6 жыл бұрын
Julian Assange You are very uneducated and thank goddess you have no part in our judicial system.. You should look online at the evidence that they have put out.. The police have evidence and believe they know who killed her but, he's dead now. It's the same as John Walsh son Adam.. Both of his parents passed the lie detector so you guys saying the parents knew, yea ok.. This is the problem with people.. It's GUILTY until proven innocent.. Look how many people have been exonerated because PEOPLE like you rush to judgements..
@Seriouslygorgeous5 жыл бұрын
I found the documentary thorough and logical in its entirety. The piece of pineapple in her stomach, the fingerprints on the bowl and glass, the train tracks being the likely piece of instrument used to prod his sister in the side, feaces found on her candy that she got the day before, burkes habit of putting feaces in her bed etc, his past behaviour and him hitting her with the golf club are what make me believe he killed his sister. Also the utterly strange demeanour ( on both occasions) he was displaying while interviewed , lack of emotions such as grief and fear of the alleged killer of his sister’s all speak volumes in my opinion. The cobwebs in the window where the supposed intruder would have entered etc. I have no doubt that he killed his sister. It’s clear as day to me. It’s all very sad.
@DennisAllums4 жыл бұрын
Dam, where did you get those facts. I concluded he did it without that stuff. This is a slam dunk. I guarantee hell drop the suit. this is all for show. Its a PR technique.
@rheincunanan95814 жыл бұрын
I agree
@frsknsld4 жыл бұрын
You people watch too much csi and law and order.
@kilotw14464 жыл бұрын
Internet Police No people like Dennis above you already had a feeling he did and watching that documentary was icing on the cake... He killed his sister and the parents covered it up, everybody from their neighborhood knew it, the police knew it, whole damn town knew it.
@frsknsld4 жыл бұрын
Kilo TW I have a feeling you did it
@juliandeleon61077 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but it was obviously one of the Ramsey's
@Cookie41Monster7 жыл бұрын
Right, despite the fact that they have the perps DNA. Which makes it an absolute certainty that it wasn't one of the family members, but Julian De Lion watched 2 minutes of a youtube video and knows better then science.
@juliandeleon61077 жыл бұрын
Cookie41Monster León*
@annjohns3507 жыл бұрын
Julian De Leon No it wasn't DNA proves it was an intruder.
@ranshine60587 жыл бұрын
you should watch CBS show "The case of : Jonbenet Ramsey", they told DNA is not a strong evidence .. btw,, if you watch the Burke interview ,, you can tell that he tried to avoid a lot of thing and reply with " i don't know" ,,
@DevineRivondair7 жыл бұрын
Ann Johnson your serious right? All the evidence points to them.
@TH-tc3ib4 жыл бұрын
Burke done it, parents covered it up, money did the talking and plenty are on Jon s payroll .
@Isotec16 жыл бұрын
His bizarre attitude on Dr Phil makes him look even more guilty
@karenryan66544 жыл бұрын
Did you ever think that maybe he has a bizarre attitude because he has had a bizarre life? Think about it.
@brianbommarito3376 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever think that maybe Dr. Phil was paid to have different feelings about the Ramsey’s than what the evidence of the interview clearly indicates, and now no expert is willing to contradict him? The Ramsey’s are still powerful. John is fighting for himself and Burke (and Patsy posthumously) even now. I don’t think he’s searching to find the person who murdered his daughter (although that would be the natural thing for a father to do). I think he’s searching for an innocent person to pin it on so that Burke can walk away.
@bethryan9077 Жыл бұрын
@@brianbommarito3376 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
@ramirami3924 Жыл бұрын
He is not guilty, stupid. The documentary is garbage. BTW he won 750 million dollars
@darkhorse74608 ай бұрын
His child interviews were enough to accomplish that= "Mom and dad are crying sometimes and I'm just going on with my life," He's maintained that attitude as an adult.
@haku1ki5 жыл бұрын
He’s in his late 20’s but his interview with dr Phil made him seem like he was 16 (the way he carried himself and the way he spoke). 🤔 it’s interesting I think, plus his lack of emotion (no anger or frustration shown)
@darlenepaul29345 жыл бұрын
He's autistic!
@jilenaj065 жыл бұрын
@@darlenepaul2934 yeah i read somewhere that he has a developmental delay
@marielouiselouwman-dijkstr1814 жыл бұрын
After so many years emotions and expressions change.
@ocbee61754 жыл бұрын
mee_mii you realize that some people just don’t show expression
@stairwaygoddess4 жыл бұрын
@@darlenepaul2934 I wondered about that just by his behavior in the interviews. My daughter and I both have ASD (mine diagnosed at age 35) so I can often pick up on the traits and tics.
@jonathancastro31067 жыл бұрын
I saw that documentary and is the best I've seen regarding this case, they tried to reach the father and his friends but but they wouldn't talk, actually the White's spoke to them but off camera, so they actually did the journalist job right trying to get all the parts versions.
@jdr94195 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Castro they have not been cleared that’s crazy. That DA should not have said that. They lawyered up and got a PR person very early. This is similar to the Madeline McCane case rich people with money to buy their own justice. The rules and laws are only for poor people.
@islanublar55145 жыл бұрын
@@jdr9419 true
@lostinnevermore53545 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
@@jdr9419 The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@braincreativesit28844 жыл бұрын
If he killed his sister, for sure he's not the one who wrote the note...
@suzykilla49234 жыл бұрын
I personally believe it was the mother, she wrote the note, made the dodgy call to the police, and showed a lot of remorse at the press conference. Also she was a pageant mother she forced the child into pageanting and the girl did not like it. She was very slim clearly starved to stay slim, they mentioned she had eaten some pineapple late at night maybe the mother was unhappy with this and hit the child because of this? Sounds like a case of child abuse to me.
@kilotw14464 жыл бұрын
Suzy Killa None of the parents would’ve covered up for the other if it was either, so let’s just get that out the way ... If Patsy murdered her daughter you can bet your ass Jon would’ve murdered her or vice versa, Burke did it and they saved the only child they had left.... The only other thing that would make sense would be, Jon was guilty of molesting his own daughter and Patsy pretty much threatened to tell everyone if she went down for the murder.... Which would mean that as sad as it all is, either way the little girl was suffering in that family. Whether it be Abused by Mom, Raped by Dad, Bullied by Bro or maybe even worse ? all 3.
@Lord_Hillcrest4 жыл бұрын
@@kilotw1446 You havent thought that through at all
@kilotw14464 жыл бұрын
jon hope Oh I thought of a whole lot.
@allygaffney9624 жыл бұрын
@@kilotw1446 they kept their dark family secrets hidden for the reason of lime light fame with pageants. The dad, or someone close to them potentially was sexually abusing her I believe. I know sadly first hand that child beauty pageants, mainly high glitz level involves predators. The son imo struck her, accidentally knocking her on conscious. Parents found out. They staged the note with the threat she will die if police are contacted... knowing full well if found dead, it was only due to them calling police and doing "the right thing" in the eyes of the law. It covers for any angles that would leave jonbenet alive in any scenario. The brother is guilty, but out of fear from both losing another child, to the sexual abuse coming out, maybe even just bad publicity they panicked and patsy who most likely fancied herself a star, actress, made the note and phone call. That's my theory
@noemoneytoya87585 жыл бұрын
I think Burke he has lots of mental issues, maybe PTSD having to deal with a death of his little sister, or maybe him murdering her. We never know, I do think he’s a strange man and he smiles.
@EthansPassions4 жыл бұрын
Good thumbnail pic you should be a x-star
@falloutgamr4 жыл бұрын
Rick James Yeah you really do seem like a libtard. Burke surely is weird as he is smiling a lot during the interview. Yeah it could be out of nervousness, but normally if you’re smiling out of nervousness you’d say sorry or say outloud that you’re not smiling at the situation but because you are uncomfortable talking about the death of a loved one.
@gregeryrenfro72374 жыл бұрын
He's has high functioning autism its obvious.
@gryl.40304 жыл бұрын
@@gregeryrenfro7237 No it´s not. You can´t just throw random diagnosis on people.
@rowpo93424 жыл бұрын
I noticed years ago his father smiles when ask seriously questions to maybe its herriditary
@TheJesusfreak77777774 жыл бұрын
He almost said baseball bat instead of gun when answering the question about him being In bed while police there
@emiliadavis82474 жыл бұрын
The Jesus Freak 7777777 yes!! I was just about to post that same comment!! Makes me wonder if a bat was what was really used in hitting Jonbenet over the head!! And if it was him, or John Ramsey who uses it!!!
@MariahFan094 жыл бұрын
Very good observation
@TheJesusfreak77777773 жыл бұрын
@@MariahFan09 thank you
@joejones69687 жыл бұрын
Burke did it. He did. He didn't men too. But He did.
@linanicolia19946 жыл бұрын
I doubt but he knows who did it. The fancy knot on the garrote shows an expert sailor or someone who is into knots...she was tortured in a satanic ritual style ( look it up ). She was sexually abused on routine basis...many trips to the doctor for issues with bladder infection ; bed wetting....Burke was smearing feces....on walls. These children were screwed up, had emotional issues, classic with abuse. That murder would have been too much for a 9 year old to execute. Kids kill but not in that sort of ritual.
@micahwest51756 жыл бұрын
Watch him talk to Dr. phil. He quickly moves his eyes down and instantly back towards Dr. Phil TWICE. One time is enough to constitute accusations of lying when being investigated, and he did it TWICE
@DiscoveryNewsNow6 жыл бұрын
You don't accidently strangle someone
@jesus66016 жыл бұрын
Joe Jones I feel like you could be right, he could have done it on accident, by maybe pushing her down the stairs, and when the parents came down all they could think to do is cover it up. Idk?
@rockstarkicking6 жыл бұрын
Lisa Adler she died from a blow to the head and the strangulation part was staged. at least according to the documentary
@micheleoftheoaks55067 жыл бұрын
Burke is so dishonest looking. He's super creepy.
@princesscryanna5306 жыл бұрын
Imagine what his life has been like since age 9, though. That would emotionally mess anyone up massively.
@Swnsasy6 жыл бұрын
Michele Of The Oaks Has dishonest "looking"?? My goodness that is the most ridiculous statement for assuming a person committed a crime..
@stg-44766 жыл бұрын
Michele Of The Oaks It’s a good thing you’re not a cop or judge.
@darkhorse94726 жыл бұрын
The Blue Haired Lawyer. Callous? He speaks of her in a "callous way"?? Are you fricken kidding me? Theres nothing callous about him. Nothing. Why are you being such an ass? This boy did nothing wrong, was never charged or even considered a suspect. So why are YOU being so callous??
@darkhorse94726 жыл бұрын
The Blue Haired Lawyer- He wasn't laughing...he was smiling and thats not callous. Not everyone reacts the same to certain situations like you or I. He was nervous and had anxiety, and if you watch his dad, he smiles a lot too..its familial. I consider myself a nice, normal, kind person, but when Im in certain situations, for example the dentist office, I talk more because Im nervous, the same goes for funerals..I get 'giggly' That does not make me callous or a murderer. Its nerves. This poor kid was 9 and in bed when a sadistic murderer snuck into his home in the middle of the night on Christmas, stun-gunned his little sister while she slept, covered her mouth with duct tape, carried her down to the basement, sexually molested her with a broken paintbrush, fashioned a complex garrotte and tortured her, and for the coup de grace, cracked her skull wide open. Burke's world was forever changed in one single night. Then he finds out that judgemental, uninformed people are somehow blaming him for this heinous act, such as in this fictional video. Now, I could ask you how you would react to all of this, but this isnt about you or me. People need to take their ego out of this equation. This is solely about how this affected Burke. Also, there are so many mistruths about this horrible murder, and I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone would even contemplate that Burke or any of the Ramseys had anything to do with this. Burke was never ever considered a suspect, there was never any evidence that any of the Ramseys had anything to do with this, they were never charged with anything...yet people feel or think they 'know'. This was a happy, healthy family with absolutely no history of abuse. None. This video is just packed with lies and propaganda.
@MyIRUSJA7 жыл бұрын
When Burke answered that he did no kill her sister with flashlight he looked down -not in the eyes of that man WHY???? And her arm was shaking all the time//// And that laugh ((((
@Tsumami__4 жыл бұрын
The accusation he was apart of it existed long before CBS did their special.
@bethryan90773 жыл бұрын
Burke was Never a suspect & the DNA alone Cleared all Ramseys a very long time ago. It is now 2021, 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@viacyncity26857 жыл бұрын
I think the mother wrote the ransom note. There were over 200 similarities in patsy's handwriting and the note. I think she wrote the note to cover up suspicion towards the Ramsey's and focus on catching an anonymous serial killer on the loose. The whole pineapple incident throws me off a bit, because it could go either way. If you watch the interview with 9 year old Burke Ramsey being interviewed by police you can see he has a disconnected attitude. He couldn't answer simple questions like being able to identify a bowl and pineapple. Why was he unable to say the word "pineapple" ???
@YunoMe37 жыл бұрын
He knew exactly what that was. He even said "oh..." as if he realized what it was then his confidence was shaken, he went from smiling to no smile and "ummm" and "aahh"s. For a treat they had quite often, it's suspicious how he couldn't identify it from a picture.
@annjohns3507 жыл бұрын
Max E shows what you know! Pasty and John both were cleared by 4 different hand writing experts. they were framed by the intruder to make it look like they kill JonBenet.
@wl56097 жыл бұрын
Via Cyn city Oh get real! Do your homework!
@deedeewinter35287 жыл бұрын
Only a crazed mother would go to such lengths to cover up for her child.
@logan31227 жыл бұрын
Patsy wasn't cleared of her handwriting. her results were inconclusive.
@Tata-bd9nx5 жыл бұрын
If i found one of my kids taken at night while we were sleeping,i wouldn't let the other one out of my arms..Just saying.Not telling him.."stay in your room",while my friends comfort me and my husband...They are covering up for someone...its just sad that the little angel died for nothing and will probably never get justice!
@yaya5iblings9355 жыл бұрын
Burke was told to stay in the room like a punishment for making a mistake. Like a probation. The parents had to cover up the act to save the son
@beautifulangel324 жыл бұрын
Especially “If” there was or had been a intruder in the house
@akanetendo83404 жыл бұрын
He was grounded for killing her sister
@ariloves103 жыл бұрын
Everyone loves and misses JonBenet. No one cares for Burke and calls him creepy and a murderer. His jealousy and hate sealed his fate. He is going to break. Drawn out by the almighty dollar and will sink like the titanic. Everyone knows in their gut Burke did it. Now he shows the world his true character and confirms what the majority already feels. He murdered his sister. If only he showed remorse and expressed love for her, but he is all about himself.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
@@ariloves10 You're just a despicable person, but then again there's a whole cult just like you. Ignorant & hateful for no reason at all & it's all towards a 9 year old Kid.
@BMarie7747 жыл бұрын
If he is guilty, just think how fucked up and sick he is, to cash in on murdering his sister. Like damn..
@zippo_muk92543 жыл бұрын
*This re-examination was VERY logical and well constructed!* Everything they analysed was relevant and did a phenomenal job of elucidating numerous possibilities! The official autopsy was erroneous. Furthermore them saying “people don’t read disclaimers” yet they don’t mention the DA not saying “the grand jury voted to indict them but my team is saying there isn’t evidence.” Until this documentary, we never knew that pineapple was in her system, and indicates a timeline and possible motive. Furthermore, I ALWAYS said it was very strange that a giant flashlight was just sitting in the middle of the kitchen counter next to the toaster. I’ve never seen that in ANY home. I also completely agree with the transfer DNA and DNA being found on clothes that is left on brand new clothes after the manufacturing process.
@breann79132 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!! I've never seen this documentary but I've always said that he killed her bc the pineapple and milk was a snack mom made for him. Some was in her system not digested. That tells me she took a bite, pissed of the brother he hit her over the head with something she died so the parents sent him to his room and staged a cover up and not a good one. That's why the rest of the pineapple and milk was not eaten and why what she ate was not digested even though she was supposed to have died hours later after being put to bed and after the parents went to bed many hours later. The pineapple would have been digested by the time that would have happened. They got their story straight with their son and pretended to find the (ridiculous) letter! Making him stay in his room all day!! Letting anyone in the crime scene. The parents where not morons that wouldn't know better. Then dad finding the body and disturbing it. Putting a blanket over her! Come on he's not dumb. He knew what he was doing. Creating reason for doubt for defense. As for the touch DNA they showed there (christmas) house the day before to anyone who came. Lots of people in and out. They could have rubbed her underwear on a door nob or something to achieve that! I don't see why this isn't obvious to everyone! He was a jealous boy and picked on her alot. He did this!
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
@@breann7913 Like soo many others, you're spouting a load of Rubbish about a crime that you Know Nothing About. I have posted the Basics of What Actually Happened on this thread. The Authentic autopsy report Proves that JB did Not Eat Any of that fresh pineapple & Thomas Haney Told Patsy that the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of her small intestine, was Different to the pineapple in the bowl & the colours were yellow, light green-tan. What was in her stomach was viscous to green to tan Unidentifiable material. It takes 2 hours for food to go from the stomach to the top of the small intestine. The Perps gave JB pineapple fruitcake in the early hours & a bit more at about 5.30 a.m. If the cops were called, The Plan was to strangle this child to death with the cord when the cops were called, Then just after that, several blows to the head in total & 3 weapons in total were used to cause the huge Open fracture down nearly the length of the skull & then the Hole. The overkill was also pre-planned & that's Why the gross fractures were precise & the weapons used were at hand. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol for Boulder County. The transcript for Patsy & John's police interviews of '97. '98 & 2000, can be found at a site - Shakedown FYI - Burke was taken to the White's at 7.15 A.M. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After the Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies For Help. Officer French was the First person to arrive, within 6 minutes of the start of that call. The Cops let the people in lovey. The Cops also called 2 victim's advocates to come. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. John Asked Arndt If he could blanket over her & Arndt said Nothing so he did so. That is from Her Own Mouth. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? Only morons believe Patsy did That! You have No basis to say that Burke was jealous of his little sister Nor do you have Any basis to say that he picked on her a lot. Wake Up To Yourself.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
I will presume that you believe everything you read from a tabloid magazine also
@OhKayinAustin Жыл бұрын
We knew about the pineapple. its in theautopsy.
@maryhenderson11667 жыл бұрын
I noticed whenever someone blames Burke or has something to do with Burke they sue. Anyone else finds that sketchy?
@gc49827 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Dewitt yea do you see all gang on you tube too i am thinking its bruke or lawyers lil fakes.
@kaylaschroeder16 жыл бұрын
An excellent point. That action on their part would also contribute to their continuance of denial, deflection, lying and deception of the truth.
@bluefalconssuck58816 жыл бұрын
No... It's called due process. The laws on liable and slander exist for good reason. Freedom of the press exists to protect them in reporting the TRUTH. They're still on the hook for reporting lies and speculations as the truth.
@kaylaschroeder16 жыл бұрын
James Brady that sounds reasonable. When I wrote that comment I was on a ‘brotherly kick.’ With my won continued research, I feel further from knowing what happened than anything. Thanks for keeping me in check.
@bluefalconssuck58816 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Dewitt , Been there... Done that... And was thankful to those that helped me out. Thank you for taking my comments in the spirit they were meant.
@missionron6 жыл бұрын
Hes creepy, no doubt..even as a 9yr old
@octaviancaesarhibernicus44476 жыл бұрын
Swedish Holmberg the lawyer said when Burke saw a magazine cover he cried because he's a very private person, I've never heard a 9 year old being called a private person.
@ryanharrington63895 жыл бұрын
@@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447 he has a form of autism.
@YusuphYT5 жыл бұрын
Octavian Caesar Hibernicus okay? Where’s this going lol
@jimmygarcia60905 жыл бұрын
How ?
@trishwright9865 жыл бұрын
you're creepy.
@BitcoinMotorist4 жыл бұрын
Burke killed his sister, sue me Burke 😁
@judithmendez51494 жыл бұрын
It was the father.
@ianmith39544 жыл бұрын
It was a pedo that was visiting their town look it up it was finally solved
@jeaninemorgan91184 жыл бұрын
No, it wasn't the brother. Come on, she had been previously sexually abused. Adults in house are to blame
@rodneyjohnson73274 жыл бұрын
@@jeaninemorgan9118... That has not been proven.... It was inconclusive.
@alma25024 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@mimicole8447 жыл бұрын
An accident is not necessary a murder intent...making it an accident that was covered up. I thought it an excellent documentary and not intended to do anything but inform. Lawsuit is about money for them and money for the lawyers and here is a good chance at both...maybe if he acted like a grieving family member and stopped smiling?
@phoebsc59937 жыл бұрын
I agree with you it was an excellent documentary. I struggle to conclude that is NOT Patsys handwriting. It so obviously is. She even denied that her own handwriting was her own. Her body language in interviews is wrong, indicating guilt and cover up. I too agree with the Burke did it camp!
@linanicolia19946 жыл бұрын
Murder cover-up ; accidental it may have been, but the claim about the kidnapping certainly changed the description of the cover-up.....it went so far as eliminating any crime scene therefore posturing as innocent victims . They did a terrific job at that. It was not cheap, but certainly worth not going to jail. Patsy was wondering what to pack for jail, just to be on the safe side. No one told her, you don't pack for jail. Ha.... There are accidental deaths where families are exonerated while, there are others, that are so heinous, you have to follow the rabbit hole where ever it may take you. That little girl's death was certainly the latter, in my opinion and I expect we may never solve that crime.
@giovannimadrigal45316 жыл бұрын
Mimi Cole it has been many years why would he still be grieving
@SchatziMadchen6 жыл бұрын
Troy Goldbert Maybe he's uncomfortable with being hounded about this all his life and trying to act nonchalant? Maybe after decades he's no longer grieving? Don't give up your day job jest yet, Dick Tracy.
@SchatziMadchen6 жыл бұрын
Lana DelRaids He's not been in the limelight for decades, how do you know what he's been doing anyway? Yes, he doesn't act quite right since he was accused of murder at the age of nine. How in the hell would you act? Spare us your armchair psychiatry.
@ixyzyxi7 жыл бұрын
The parents look straight in the eyes when asked if they murdered their daughter. The Son is looking all over the place while denying
@davidcosborn16 жыл бұрын
That's because he's a software engineer, not because he's guilty. Software people don't connect well with normal people -- look at Zuckerberg for example.
@Guyrandomducttape16 жыл бұрын
@@davidcosborn1 it doesnt matter, trying to convince people otherwise is like trying to tell a pigeon not to fly. They think because they seen a document on a subject that they're a expert when they know literally nothing. The document series obviously had a narrative it was trying to get across and the people who put it together are willing to ruin lives for money.
@CherylMacKay11f6 жыл бұрын
It’s more likely he as aspergers
@Sammy-mp9xn5 жыл бұрын
David Osborne- Puhh lezzzze
@jaimeduncan61672 жыл бұрын
@@Guyrandomducttape1 A person above was 100% secure of what happened. I will say the person has a barely functioning brain. I am not convinced he did not do it, but we have the DNA (one expert in the comments told that maybe the DNA was hers, the expert does not know about the XY stuff). Maybe he did it, I am not here to put my hands on fire for him, but CBS should have done better.
@vonrose38834 жыл бұрын
Let's just hope they follow through with new DNA testing and that it gets some answers.
@LifeInPink9993 жыл бұрын
It won’t. Just watch the documentary that the idiot of her brother sued for daring to tell the true.
@momisnava9805 жыл бұрын
Why is Burke smiling tho ??? TF
@kitteekittee40104 жыл бұрын
Nervous duh
@j4kgang9214 жыл бұрын
Not really smiling.......more of An Uncomfortable smirK
@cfvgd3 жыл бұрын
Because they have asked him this thousands of times in many years.... Jiizes
@ladyeva86512 жыл бұрын
@@j4kgang921 please ,,,,really idiot,,,,,,, Burk smile because is guilty 💯💯💯💯💯
@jenmodella7 жыл бұрын
Burke is strange and could have very well killed his sis and the parents helped cover it up. Excellent series. Worth checking out. So sad for JonBenet.
@jennyeddins78096 жыл бұрын
Yes, he's odd, but wouldn't you maybe be a little odd if your little sister was murdered and you and your parents were assumed to be the killer? He's obviously socially awkward but it's not surprising to me, considering what he's gone through. There's another theory that the killer was John's oldest son from his first marriage who would have been 21 at the time. It's also possible that this half brother could have been molesting Jonbenet and Burke.
@fozzybear75266 жыл бұрын
Modella if there's no proof you shouldn't go around making allegations
@jennyeddins78096 жыл бұрын
Alicia C First of all, she said "could have"...she didn't say he definitely did it like a lot of people do. Secondly, people are allowed to speculate. There's nothing wrong with that. People can't help but be intrigued by cases like this that are still unsolved.
@darkhorse94726 жыл бұрын
Qt pie-Second of all, youre a moron.
@ROMSradio6 жыл бұрын
No the 9 year old is not a vicious killer dummy. Too much daytime television for you
@mefazar5 жыл бұрын
I’m convinced that Burk was covered, all I don’t understand is that why they didn’t tell the truth when he wouldn’t be convicted bcz of his age
@sandragruhle62884 жыл бұрын
Mer Az He would have been-and should previously have been-institutionalized!
@mauricepalmer8343 жыл бұрын
He was 2 weeks away from his 10th birthday which would make him the age of possible prosecution. Even if he did kill her I don't think he should have been imprisoned even to this day. Kids know what's right and wrong at the age but the lack impulse control, understanding of consquences and empathy. I agree tho he should have been sent to a safe place where he could receive treatment and kept away from other kids
@chrisspearline7673 жыл бұрын
It was Michael Helgoth and at least one other accomplice who left his DNA
@ariloves103 жыл бұрын
Ego image fear
@eveli51682 жыл бұрын
It would be changed his life forever. Whole world would count him as maniak. And it would be shame for parents. Also doctors could find him mentally sick and force him to treatment.
@JacksonRocchi7 жыл бұрын
2:40 Why the fuck is he smiling when hes retelling the day his sister died... And when he says no he did not.
@sophiarenfro44156 жыл бұрын
Because he is guilty!
@empanada656 жыл бұрын
Because it’s been 20 years since she died and its something he can look at without feeling grief. Try to think about something that happened 20 years ago in your life and tell me how you feel about that memory now.
@matthewthechosenoneflatt14526 жыл бұрын
:3 / because as one of the interviewers said it's a nervous smile not a happy smile
@midnightportal39526 жыл бұрын
Okay, but what if we already thought he did it before watching the show? Why isn't he suing every other show and KZbin chanel/video In the internet that is saying he did it?
@RachekPebra1235 жыл бұрын
You thinking he did it before or after watching the show isn't really relevant.
@galen1077 жыл бұрын
Both he and his father were contacted multiple times, and both refused to speak on camera, or speak to the investigators on this show. To me that clears CBS as the Ramseys had the opportunity to tell their stories....just adds more doubt in my mind of his innocence
@kercchan33076 жыл бұрын
a smart person does not talk to the media because they spin and lie about everything ever told to them.
@MARYWTHER6 жыл бұрын
kerc Chan... but the Ramseys DID speak to the medias. After JonBenet's death, they even talked to the medias BEFORE talking to the police. Which is hehhhh. The people in the documentary were profilers and a retired FBI agent. Not journalists.
@fevwan93695 жыл бұрын
The more they speak the media will twist it against them...
@marjoriedickinson3804 жыл бұрын
Something so unsettling about how the family reacted from the start and all the odd evidence....
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@darkhorse9472 Жыл бұрын
@ Majorie Dickinson Let me ask you about that. How many cases have you been involved in where you were analyzing the demeanor and conduct of parents who had a child found murdered in their home; what is your experience in that type of a case? Do you have any experience, formal training, in how psychologically or otherwise one expects a parent to grieve when a child has been murdered? You require a change of mindset of assuming that you are right in how others should respond to situations and that those who respond differently are wrong.
@brianbommarito3376 Жыл бұрын
You don’t have to be an expert, you just need common sense. They supposedly thought it was a kidnapping, and the ransom note said that they would be calling at 8:00-10:00 with info about where the money was going and how to get their kid. But that time period came and passed, and the policewoman said that none of them said anything or seemed to notice. What does that imply? That they already knew that no phone call would be coming, that no kidnapping had actually taken place, that they knew more than what we initially believed they did. Is the similarity between the kidnapper note and samples of Patsy’s handwriting just a coincidence, I think not! Why would an intruder spend precious time writing a kidnapper note in the house, when they could have done that even before they entered the house? How would they know exactly the amount of money John would make as a Christmas bonus, namely, $118,000? If we go and say that Patsy wrote the ransom note, what does that imply? That the parents knew something about the killer and were trying to send the police in a wrong direction. But why would they do that? Why would they protect the killer of their own child? It had to be someone very close by, someone much closer than a friend of a friend, and Burke is the only one who both benefited from JonBenét’s death (he was jealous of her), and had the position most to persuade the parents to side with him. He was their child as much as JonBenét was. They lost their daughter, they weren’t about to hand their son over to the authorities or the news media to make a spectacle of him. No, they sent him to his room and then did everything they could to make it look like JonBenét’s death was the result of a kidnapping gone wrong. Patsy wrote the ransom note, John tied the loose bindings on his daughter. Yet for all their efforts, they still couldn’t convince the police that something wasn’t fishy. No one’s been charged with the murder, but they are far from being cleared in my mind. Also, the DNA does not clear them like people says it does. DNA is like a fingerprint, it can be damaged. And the more the source of the sample passes through multiple hands, the more likely it can come from a mixture of places. A manufacturer?
@darkhorse9472 Жыл бұрын
@@brianbommarito3376 All Ramseys were cleared along with numerous others over a decade ago....get over it bro and move on.
@doloresc617 жыл бұрын
Who talks about their sister's death and smiling? He has always smiled in interviews the Psychopath smiles discussing his sisters death most kids head would be down and they'll be quiet and you would hear words like I don't know this b**** needs to be locked up ASAP
@broccolisoup38826 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t look like he’s smiling in happiness, he looks really uncomfortable
@---nobody---6 жыл бұрын
He looks extremely nervous and socially awkward. If your sister was murdered when you were 9 years old, and everyone blamed you and said all these fucked up things about you; then had to lead the rest of your life in seclusion, under a cloud of suspicion, and having awful things said about you, you’d probably act weird and have (social) anxiety and not so great social skills too. Plus, on top of all that there is evidence that Jon Benet and probably Burke too, were being sexually abused.
@nopeno23506 жыл бұрын
msawesome lady I smile wen I'm upset
@bellasmom25976 жыл бұрын
msawesome lady he it walking about the media attention as though he is bragging about it. Smiling and laughing about his sisters death, might be awkward but he doesnt seem sad at all about her death.
@msdag36 жыл бұрын
He has smiled and shown no fear of something like this ever happening to him next, the same way Scott Peterson did when questioned about his wife's disappearance! Psychopath 100%!!
@Musicrecords105 жыл бұрын
He did it.. parents covered up to protect their only child left
@brandysmith25807 жыл бұрын
It was a very good series. Informative and reasonable.
@adammartin20255 жыл бұрын
The documentary series was a brilliant fact-based analysis of the case. That Burke Ramsey has filed a lawsuit shouldn't sway anyone's opinion as to whether or not the documentary series accurately depicted the events in question. The fact of the matter is that 1 the task of a guilty person is to act in the exact way that an innocent person would act. Thus, from the point of view of the guilty person, an innocent person would sue, therefore I must file suit. 2 I have personal experience with the galling amount of entitlement people in positions of power and wealth have as it relates to those who they have victimised and/or those that have dared accuse them of crimes and it is clear that the perpetrators of terrible crimes will say and do anything to avoid accountability for their actions, including the targetting of people who tell the truth about the crimes they've committed. The outrage of the person in question (Burke Ramsey, in this case) is not about the accuracy of the documentary series (or lack thereof, though it is a very good analysis) but it is about the outrage of the perpetrator that someone dare utter the truth of their crimes publicly, which cannot be tolerated. 3 Suing is also a necessary rear-guard action. In the mind of the perpetrator, despite his guilt, he has to publicly proclaim innocence in an attempt to sway public opinion to his side, as the failure to do so and therefore rally at least some people to his cause could likely result in enough of a groundswell of popular demand that the individual in question (Burke Ramsey) be held accountable for his crimes that the demand simply becomes overwhelming and, in the process, sufficiently motivates people in positions of power to undertake decisive action to hold the perpetrator (Burke) accountable for his actions. Making the attempt, however dubious, to win at least some people to the perpetrator's side, by the perpetrator himself, an absolute necessity. The fact of the matter is the documentary series in question is the best (only) reasonable explanation as to what actually happened to Jon Benet Ramsey and it is for exactly that reason that Burke Ramsey must, for the sake of his liberty and reputation (what little reputation he has) that he undertake this extraordinary and galling act of public deception.
@conniecrawford64294 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment Adam.....
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
Blah blah blah what a load of Rubbish put out by someone Else who Doesn't Know a damn thing about the crime, the case or about what was Actually perpetrated upon the poor child but mouths off like a Witch Finder General anyway. Shame on you for all you've said about a 9 year old Child.
@andrewtedesco12111 ай бұрын
How come Burke Ramsey wasn't taken away from his parents by DCFS until this case was closed? Just in case he was in danger too?mmmm?
@the_Real_Grammy_of_64 жыл бұрын
I’m glad he hasn’t heard what I’ve said. I don’t have much money. I really believe he did it.
@user-cp5mb4rk4m4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@white1calling5 жыл бұрын
I am convinced that the parents knew more than they admitted to.
@darkhorse9472 Жыл бұрын
You obvs haven't researched this case, bro.
@george55904 жыл бұрын
how much do the lawyers get out of the 750 , million
@kcollins71testing4 жыл бұрын
Burke done it and the parents covered it up. And the cops/detectives botched the case. You don’t have to have watched that show to deduce that!
@VickieHorn-Lig-Spencer101 Жыл бұрын
They should be ashamed for doing that to that man
@sombodyoncetoldmetheworldis5 жыл бұрын
I’m certain that at least one of the family members know what happened to her
@jeffbengert28633 жыл бұрын
They all know the truth.....
@darkhorse9472 Жыл бұрын
All evidence points to an intruder. Do the research.
@robertmckenzie98033 жыл бұрын
The knot tied round her neck is used in sailing, john liked sailing
@mizzlaura3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the knot I immediately thought of the army and then I heard that John was in the military, it doesn't look like a standard knot an average person like myself would know
@jtreadw58443 жыл бұрын
@@mizzlaura Navy. They are known for knots 🪢
@mangloreanwithabeard4 жыл бұрын
I just saw the CBS documentary and it so make sense now, only if Technology was way Advance back then he would've been exposed
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@tabora_3 жыл бұрын
he seems to want a lot of money over his sisters MURDER
@Anu208103 жыл бұрын
I feel Patsy and Burke have the same kind of expressions, the smile and the look of being emotionless....this case is the most confusing case ever!
@jesseolson31423 жыл бұрын
You can tell he is nervous. Some people smile in awkward situations look at his hands also. He keeps moving them because they are probably sweaty its not easy to be on tv for a lot of people
@Anu208103 жыл бұрын
@@jesseolson3142 maybe you are right. Hope this case is solved soon.
@hemadear25094 жыл бұрын
I wonder, could it be that seeing JonBennet get pampered and spoilt, he felt neglected? Would that give a reason for her brother to lash out and hit her? Anyhow, I see a lot of sadness in his smile. Poor girl died such a painful death and years later, after many generations later, even after the death of Patsy, we are still talking about this crime that remains unsolved. Perhaps we all feel sad for that kid.
@fujimandkimyates32065 жыл бұрын
Look at the sick smilehe has when he talks about his dead sister.. Red flag ..
@darlenepaul29345 жыл бұрын
He is autistic.He will not react to this gas just as you would.
@ccc-fd3ls4 жыл бұрын
He was nervous so stop
@marinettedupain-cheng14074 жыл бұрын
Leave him alone. He was only 9!
@DennisAllums4 жыл бұрын
looks like a kid who just received a video game for christmas
@Mel_Cano4 жыл бұрын
Darlene Paul yeah I agree
@squirrel7t74 жыл бұрын
Were gonna need an...Police! She caught herself nearly asking for an ambulance in the 911 call for supposed kidnapping.
@goldengungirlz6 жыл бұрын
It's so good when you can get away with a crime, have your family back you up AND profit from it 👌🏾
@nataliedapellari28144 жыл бұрын
exactly how ironic
@MariahFan094 жыл бұрын
He got at least 250 million for suing them... that is CRAZY. Enjoy it now because the after life is going to SUCK
@bethryan9077 Жыл бұрын
@@nataliedapellari2814 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
@kmbland1232 жыл бұрын
I found the docuseries to be very interesting and it's true that it did change my opinion about the case. To me, the Burke theory is the most reasonable explanation for happened that night. I think he is a sociopath who resented his sister and had a tendency to snap at times. I believe this was a terrible accident that the Ramsey's chose to try to cover up instead of tell the truth about. Very tragic story.
@ttyngordon5 жыл бұрын
When you start from scratch, you include all things. "When you have eliminated the possible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"
@lissalives17 жыл бұрын
Maybe he did it. It would explain why Patsy wrote the note. That ransom note was written on paper exactly like the notepad Patsy had.
@debieestaphane12435 жыл бұрын
That came to mind to cover up what he did .the son did it
@rednecknation6 жыл бұрын
When Burke speaks all I hear is the theme music from Halloween...☠️
@Summerbreeze3454 жыл бұрын
Reading this comment, I could hear the theme music of the movie Halloween 😂😂😂
@JM-ij1om4 жыл бұрын
Lol! Perfect!
@thelordofdarkness1414 жыл бұрын
I hear scatman by scatman john
@rachelvega71394 жыл бұрын
Just come clean! Tell us what happened to her!
@79bewareofpuppies97 Жыл бұрын
John Bennett Raamsey will do that by January 2024.
@christendenise2206 жыл бұрын
This case has gone down in history as an epic failure. I feel horrible for all the unprotected children in the world. It's a shame this could never be solved.
@fatahali42536 жыл бұрын
Children can develop jealousy when they see one of the children getting more attention
@Chibicapetillo6 жыл бұрын
You can see Burke Remsey hand he's never been on camera and he really doesn't like being on camera
@nataliedapellari28144 жыл бұрын
actually he has been many times on camera , i personally thing that he is hiding something and he is terrified thats why his hand is shaking
@mws7552 жыл бұрын
Looking at Burke's behavior during interviews as a child and adult and seeing how uninterested in his sister he was as as child, I seriously doubt he broke down crying over a tabloid cover
@bethryan9077 Жыл бұрын
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
@bethryan9077 Жыл бұрын
Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon of the 26th when he was still at the Whites, by detective Patterson, who was on the scene at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither parent was present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to the where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that Bogus CBS show was aired in 2016, Patterson publicly stated on national TV that Burke didn't know Anything & he was very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed 10 days after the murder of his 6 year old sister, by a child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer was present with him & the parent's Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer was present with Burke & the parents Allowed that interview to take place as well. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. Science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously are Not told the Details about all that happened. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross fractures were After death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then refused to get on the stand to back his lying mouth. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that most people Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used. The 1st fracture was front to back & Open, nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole & the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to that believe that Garbage because they’re not very Bright. BTW - Burke was Never even a suspect.
@marcelaruby845 жыл бұрын
That’s why dr Phil stepped up with his “interview” to fool the public
@menope24203 жыл бұрын
Watching this years later seeing Lin Wood was the attorney who represented Burke. Boy, does that make sense now.
@sodapop833 жыл бұрын
“I did my best for him and am proud that I obtained settlements for him against mainstream media giants CNN and The Washington Post,” Wood said. - they should have never ever settled anything with cnn and the wp but sue and keep suing them! that kid was smeared and they tried to destroy his whole life ahead of him
@kelseyevans50017 жыл бұрын
Why did john go downstairs in the first place?
@burntthetoast6 жыл бұрын
God i hope Burke guts them for as many millions as he can
@langolier93 жыл бұрын
Even when he’s talking about it it’s like he’s smiling there’s something not right about that guy
@randomvintagefilm2736 жыл бұрын
Nice try Burke, I felt you were guilty way before the show came out!
@marinettedupain-cheng14074 жыл бұрын
What proof do you have?
@judithmendez51494 жыл бұрын
@@marinettedupain-cheng1407 exactly
@c.a.greene83955 жыл бұрын
The police make dozens of mistakes in every investigation. This one is no different. Just because one officer believed it was the parents he didn't even consider the son as a suspect. The original officer on the scene who was present when the girls body was found stated that Mr Ramsey was so closely studying her reaction to the child's body that she got chills and began to fear for her own life in his presence! So he wasn't truly even considered until the case was looked at with fresh eyes. To take a second look at the evidence means just that, it doesn't mean to start with the mistakes of the other officers who had tunnel vision. The only way any investigation can go forward is to look at everyone present at the time of the murder, including strange little boys who smear piss and shit all over their sisters room and stuff in blind crazy rage... He is soooo guilty! Otherwise he would have laughed this off! That interview was seriously creepy! He's one creepy dude!
@bethryan9077 Жыл бұрын
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
@rehnajamaludeen10135 жыл бұрын
Why is he smiling....he's sister is dead...for crying out loud....be it 20 or 30....someone whose close to you is dead and u r accused of that death....you won't smile and ans to that accusation
@wormhd8835 жыл бұрын
I have believe from the beginning that the brother did it and the parents covered it up, and the show he did where he had a creep smile during the whole show , well I think that speaks for itself.
@321karli5 жыл бұрын
That family knows don’t care what anyone says
@jeffbengert28633 жыл бұрын
Of course they do......
@littlefeet72955 жыл бұрын
I watched this documentary in full, with each piece of evidence they presented I tried to play devil's advocate to try and argue against what they were saying to see if what they were presenting made sense and/or held true and I have to say that I couldn't argue/dispute anything they were saying. Every line of Ramsey's story has been picked apart and in so many ways proven either untrue or couldn't have happened how they purported it. I am not going to point fingers, even though I am pretty sure of the culprit's identity but I am going to say that this case needs to be reopened with possibly a brand new team for a fresh set of eyes. Also, Burke and John should be subpoenaed to answer the new evidence and why it took them 120 days to cooperate with the family and why did the family have the power of who comes and goes. It seems to me as in a lot of these cases that money can change the world around you no matter what you did!
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
That was a made-for-the-ignorant-public-TV-show. Do you actually Think they had the Case Evidence? Do you actually Think the investigating police handed them the Case Evidence? Obviously you believed they had Forensic Exhibits in those little brown bags with writing on them too yeah? Well deary, you believe it all because you don't know about the Actual evidence At All. You believe it all because you Don't Know what Actually happened to JB. I will presume that you believe everything you read in a magazine also.
@Kslim074 жыл бұрын
He was clearly a very sheltered kid, who clearly was fiercely protected by his parents for this very reason. I dont blame him for being beyond awkward and uncomfortable. The media is exploiting his awkwardness for $$$ and its honestly disgusting.
@derricklake82307 жыл бұрын
the brother was not questioned like a regular person hes a little boy of a rich known family i bet you they never talked to him ever!!!
@mahnazha5 жыл бұрын
They did but for the related questions he always said I don't remember, or maybe, or I don't know!!! brainwash
@ccc-fd3ls4 жыл бұрын
Of course he acts strange, he was kept away hidden. He's introverted and socially akward. I laugh when I get nervous or feel uncomfortable, it's something I can't control so I understand the brother. He has the right to sue.
@nilz9397 Жыл бұрын
I truly believe that Burke Ramsey Killed his sister Jonbenet. He was volatile and problematic, jealous and angry. Unfortunately, it was waiting to happen. The smallest thing would have set him off. And if it wasn't the pineapple it would have been something else. Her breathing was too much for him to take, let alone talking, walking, smiling, laughing and getting any attention. This is a sibling so jealous he smears his feaces on his sisters candy and Christmas presents.
@heatherhillman15 жыл бұрын
I remember this case. At first, it was a kidnapping. But when the police found no signs of breaking and entry except for a broken basement window that appeared to be broken from the inside, not the outside, I thought it could have been a kidnapping done by people the parents knew for money that John Ramsey supposedly owed. It seemed like a set up since the amount in the ransom note was the amount JR owed. Such an odd note too. It was unnecessarily lengthy, I thought. Then a few hours later, her body was quickly discovered by JR.......too quickly.......like he knew exactly where it was and went right to it. That made me think that someone in the house did it, although not necessarily JR. He may have just placed her body there after her death so he knew right were to "find" her. Then he placed a blanket from the back of the couch over her, knowing it would contaminate evidence. Again, I felt if he didn't do it, he certainly knew who did and was covering it up. Ironically, the one person I never thought could have done it was Patsy. Her emotions and behavior all throughout was appropriate. She really was devastated at the loss of her child. However, J&P lawyered up so quickly the cops heads were left spinning. So, even though I didn't think she did it, I was pretty convinced that she too, knew who did. Since then, there has been a lot of evidence and stories that have popped up about the kids relationship with their parents and with each other. There seemed to be a lot of corroborated stories about Burke's anger issues, jealousy issues, his penchant for aggression when it wasn't warranted. Stories of him smearing his own feces around his sister's room and he had hit her with a golf club just a year before her death. At this point, the parents have closed ranks and refuse to allow Burke to be questioned or interviewed. Now it becomes clear what the Ramsey's did. They knew Burke had issues and they probably had a fair number of problems within the home because of it. Problems that they hid because it wouldn't do for an affluent family to have a mentally ill child. This did a huge disservice to Burke, as he couldn't get the help he likely needed. At some point on Christmas, JB stole a piece of pineapple out of B's bowl. Something that normal siblings have done to each other since the beginning of time. But Burke's anger was set off. She ran off, he chased her down with the flashlight, caught her and smashed the flashlight into her head. Now she's unconscious and bleeding. He gets scared and goes to his parents. Maybe he tells them what he's done, maybe he lies and tells them she fell, either way, the go to check on her. At this point she is still alive but they know she is badly injured and would require medical help or she would eventually die. At this point, the parents determine that keeping their carefully crafted public persona of the perfect family must be protected over and above their daughters health. At that point, JR takes JB to the basement and either he or his friend that was there (probably the friend) ties the ligatures around her neck and strangles away what's left of her life. They fake a sexual assault as a red herring but clean it to the point that no evidence of it can be found other than the damage to the body. JR leaves the house briefly. At this point, it is speculated that he obtained the saliva from someone that couldn't be connected to the case and who likely wouldn't ever have his DNA ever put in the database. Meanwhile, Burke has been sent upstairs and told to stay there in an effort to keep him out of the loop. Patsy sits down and concocts the ransom note, using an amount that JR owes someone else to create another red herring/false lead. Once the DNA is set and the note is done, the Ramsey's pick up the phone and make the 911 call and the investigation begins. Once the Boulder Police make it known to the Ramsey's that they are concentrating on them, the parents lawyer up. Now, if John had done it, at some point Patsy would have broken. If Patsy had done it, John would have turned on her. But they remained a solid united front. That could only mean that they knew who did it, it wasn't either of them, and they were determined to protect the killer at all costs. The only person both parents would have had a vested interest in protecting was their son. It's the only thing that makes sense. They lost one child at the hands of the other and it was the only way to keep from losing their other child while maintaining their affluent status. It's just too bad that they cared more about their status and their mentally ill child than they did their daughter.
@rachelgreen45105 жыл бұрын
Well put. Idk about the part where the father goes out to get a saliva sample, but I do agree with everything else. The parents wouldn't only stand lose their "status", but Burke most likely would've been institutionlized, they would've been charged for negligence and failure to confront their son's mental illness, and would've probably done time for the cover up and the whole fiasco. If Burke didn't have previous mental issues, they could've rushed her to emergency and it would've been explained as accidental.
@HelloKitty-wi1jl5 жыл бұрын
Where do you get John had a friend there?
@heatherhillman15 жыл бұрын
@@HelloKitty-wi1jl There is another video on KZbin of an interview with the first officer on the scene and she said there were a few family friends there when she arrived. I also saw it somewhere else. Can't remember the name, even though it was unusual. Sorry my answer is vague, I don't like to specify details unless I know I have the info right.....or at least from a couple of independent sources.
@bethryan90772 жыл бұрын
Very Few know that in 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. And, Wong had No qualifications to call herself a writing analyst in the first place. Her vids show Fake writing on a whiteboard as If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & as If from police files, all Fake. Thomas never worked a murder case before & only cared how his hair looked for the cameras. He constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He was sued for that book of Lies but many in the public domain don’t know about That & still see him as some sort of hero & Repeat his BS. Many unscrupulous so-called ‘authors’ followed his lead & put out Their versions of BS. The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. Of course, that was Before Steve Thomas set his sites on his delusions of grandeur & blamed Patsy because of a notepad. He was sued for all his lies & lost every cent. In his desperation for fame & $$, he hadn’t found out/been Told about the Second severe fraction to JB’s skull, being a Hole. Besides many of the other gross injuries & sadistic acts to her person, in one word - Torture, that he Dismissed. I suppose he looked good for TV though. Alex Hunter was one of the few who had full Integrity, Lou Smit was another. These men Saw all the evidence known about in those early stages, the public & the grand jury Did Not. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
@MsTinkerbelle873 жыл бұрын
What a slimy creep!! It’s like he doesn’t want to find out who killed his sister:/
@WatchMySmoke4 жыл бұрын
No one, and I mean no one, who is guilty sues for slander. That is only something you do if you are innocent.
@loisaustin96744 жыл бұрын
Good point. I’ve also wondered why the oldest son who “didn’t come home” for Christmas was never investigated or questioned at all.
@WatchMySmoke2 жыл бұрын
@@loisaustin9674 I'm sure his DNA was ruled out, though, as they specified it was an outsider's.
@lizamarierecentes37685 жыл бұрын
I believe in that documentary's analysis and findings. Period.
@morgan33682 жыл бұрын
And where did he come up with $750M for the lawsuit amount? I swear people just throw out numbers and hope to win.
@fifilafleur55554 жыл бұрын
If you slander someone and insinuate or publicly convict them for a crime they didn’t commit, you deserve to be sued. You are essentially destroying someone’s reputation & life.
@delaneyh29064 жыл бұрын
Burke did it and the parents covered it up. An innocent man wouldn’t sue a network for stating facts and exploring theories. End of story.
@lilgeorge34 Жыл бұрын
We all have a mind of our own..... and I still think the son did this and the parents covered it up.
@goldenstatewarriors3637 Жыл бұрын
Yea
@patriciaschuster1371 Жыл бұрын
Nah. The mom did it in a bit of murderous anger.
@lilgeorge34 Жыл бұрын
@@patriciaschuster1371 I'm not sure if the Mother did it, but the truth will come out one day.