Politics: Tradition and Vision | Newt Gingrich | EP 301

Dr. Jordan B Peterson and Newt Gingrich discuss the state of conservative politics, why the young generation is drawn to it now more than ever, and how across demographics, big changes are in store following the midterm elections.
Speaker Newt Gingrich is Chairman of Gingrich 360, a multimedia production and consulting company based in Arlington, Virginia. As former Speaker of the House of Representatives, Gingrich is well known as the architect of the “Contract with America” that led the Republican Party to victory in 1994, creating the first conservative majority in the House in 40 years. He was a Republican candidate for President of the United States in 2012. Gingrich is a Fox News contributor, podcast host (Newt’s World), and syndicated columnist. He is the author of 41 books, including 18 fiction and nonfiction New York Times bestsellers. His latest books include Beyond Biden: Rebuilding the America We Love and Trump and the American Future: Solving the Great Problems of Our Time.
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(0:00) Coming Up
(1:34) Intro
(4:25) The Contract with America
(10:26) Main emerging platforms
(15:00) The consequence of a balanced budget
(20:14) Why did the balanced budget vote fail?
(26:15) Managing a vision
(31:26) Splitting the party
(35:40) Donald Trump, changing mindsets
(45:40) Collusion on a new scale, big pictures
(50:00) Demographics push back on woke-ness
(55:35) Immigrants and Conservatism
(59:00) Sacred axioms, the new modern religion
(1:04:12) Boiling eggs by way of the freezer
(1:12:20) Cleverness has replaced wisdom
(1:14:40) The intellectual divide
(1:16:17) Prattling nonsense and living by whim
(1:24:58) Emerging visions
(1:28:46) Meaning is accrued through responsibility
(1:34:35) Rites of passage, emerging as an adult
(1:39:50) What we need to offer
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[@veracityhunter7777]

As a black woman who was a former liberal Democrat? I never listened to this guy, because I was told to dismiss him. Now that I am in my early 40s, lived some life, healed my racial insecurities, and stopped listening to the race bating hatred? This guy makes total logical sense. LOL it's really interesting what healing will do to you, your perceptions about the world and it's people.

[@TheMapman01]

Thank you for being open minded and dedicated to the truth and good values and seeing past the divide and conquer bullshit. This from a slightly younger white guy, called racist more times than I can count.... Raised in a trailer park, served 2 tours in Iraq, 2 college degrees, great career... still looked at by many who are brainwashed as the scum of the earth because of the rhetoric that appeals in some to the very thing they claim to abhor in order to consolidate support and exert pressure on those that dissent. Thank you.

[@strongback6550]

A liberal Democrat is a bit of an oxymoron these days

[@JoneThePwn]

How did you reach that healing? The question we have to answer now is how we duplicate your healing experience. So many people are languishing in pain and ignorance like a battered woman in an abusive relationship as they listen to the lefts lies. How do we help repeat your results I wonder? (Just thinking aloud) What helped you open your heart in the beginning of your transformation? What/who made an impact on you in the beginning when you started doubting your previously held beliefs?

[@gilgamecha]

God bless you ma'am for having the courage to change your views.

[@advocate1563]

Thank you for sharing

[@PridefulMan02]

Im 20 year old young black man and this is why i left being a liberal and now im a libertarian with conservatives views. Growing up as a black liberal made me not value the beautiful things in today’s society i was taught i was oppressed by my “ woke gender fluid non binary pro black feminist cousin” she made me feel like i was a victim and questioned my man hood.i was depressed all the time lazy with no morals and principles the radical left is destructive to a degree for young folks but since the beginning of last year in 2021 i left being liberal and my conservative views recently broke a 2 year relationship with my ex but im happy now and will always stand up for my beliefs

[@gilgamecha]

God bless you man. I know where you have been and you have made a brave but correct choice.

[@dehidaiaperez3680]

Blessing to you young man

[@catherinelachapelle7222]

Good for you. So refreshing to see a young man involve himself in politics enough to know what side he stands with. ❤

[@PridefulMan02]

@@gilgamecha i appreciate you

[@PridefulMan02]

@@dehidaiaperez3680 I appreciate

[@topdawg1692]

This should be shown in every High School History class, and discussed, Two, brilliant minds, who READ! History! Well DONE

[@cindyrobertson3798]

I wish! History class now is all about oppressors. Just a few years ago my kids ( now 30s) were involved in constitution defense class and took a trip to our nation s capital to compete. Now they hired a native American with an agenda 🙄. Same school 15 years later

[@log2232]

Agreed

[@docwill184]

@topdawg1692; No. Effin'. Way. Rational Conservative-type discourse is the last thing our union-indoctrinated children will be exposed to in K-12...and most colleges.

[@evoluidotechvelhawisdom5814]

Totally agree!

[@garyfrancis6193]

Right after the Musk/ Zuckerberg cage fight.

[@ilovetruth7111]

This interview was brain candy for me, what a great use of time. Nothing useless, nor empty jargon to fill in space. My children must watch!

[@JadeDragon407]

Unlike some candies, it's a candy that's good for you. >>;=)

[@DJC3PO]

"Any gathering of businessmen is a conspiracy against the consumer" Wow, that one hit hard.

[@1cont]

H.L. Mencken Dude had a healthy distrust of government.

[@michellelafaye2721]

Boy oh boy that is the truth.

[@jackreacher.]

I am a business man. If you have money, I want it.

[@ontheroadwithtex7991]

It's paraphrasing Adam Smith. The actual and more extensive quote (I would note "quotes", as Smith addressed the idea more than once) would suggest that such gatherings should not be banned by government, and any proposed regulation be minimized and adopted only after long and careful study as to unintended consequences. BTW, I'm sure I've heard Newt comment on the more comprehensive argument by Smith.

[@ejpla.607]

More people should believe this statement! It is truest thing I have maybe ever heard.. Ever wonder what Bill Gates and all his buddies meet every year for? TO plot against all of us..

[@Wolly735]

Dr. Peterson - A family member of mine recently attempted suicide. After inpatient care, he’s doing ok, but I know it’s a bandaid. The same things are still eating at him. I sent him your book, with an inscription of how much you’ve helped me. The mentorship you deliver is a bright light in the darkness. I’ll talk with him about it as he reads and offer a steady hand. I know it’s just another person among millions, but: Thank you sir.

[@ltlwlwl5057]

@@jmp01a24 Absolutely unnecessary comment from you. Get over yourself. Nasty person!!!

[@michellelafaye2721]

Unfortunately some people have family members who refuse to watch any intellectual videos or any thing over 15 min and shut down when you try to edify them.

[@bobbybranham4830]

He is more important than just one in a millon. He is made in the image of God and he loves him like he is the only one. A man like Peterson is Gods way of sending help. I pray that God gives you the words to console , comfort and guide him .

[@jackreacher.]

Three determining factors motivate many toward suicidal tendencies: 1. Lack of belonging 2. Life altering stressful condition 3. Desensitization toward death Eliminate the dominance of these factors

[@denisegaylord382]

Prayers for a full healing for your family member. It is a struggle against the darkness. May you both be blessed in your brand new world. 🥰🙏🤗

[@lisamarie661]

My brothers were homeschooled almost all their school years. I was educated that way for the last two years of high school. Results? Both of my brothers became leaders in industry. Their wives are leaders in their careers. My husband, son and I are caregivers. Everyone works and helps others. My brothers have been polite and friendly through all these years. They had no problems getting jobs and scored extremely high in the college entrance exams. We are all blessed and I have my Mom to thank because she organized our classroom, made sure we had an excellent schedule, took us to museums, libraries and historic sites and encouraged us to read and think and question whatever we listened to.

[@nathangarden3843]

If only that were the norm. You’re a home school success story. Just as there are plenty of public school success stories. Nation of 350M people - education cannot be broad brushed like that. I applaud your success though, and as a public school special education teacher - respect your vocation - it requires a certain selflessness - it’s not a standard issue virtue on the average human.

[@ocjane7146]

That can only happen if the family has the education and resources, its not the norm.

[@bonniethompson3496]

​@@ocjane7146 So, why not support all families with school vouchers? Why? Freedom of choice in education should be the basis of an American's pursuit of a happy, productive life. Why not support families with that basic need? Benefits would be exponential to this withering education system.

[@malvokaquila6768]

As a fellow home schooled person this was my experience. I got accepted into most major colleges at thirteen and built a buisness worth more than the rest of my family combined. My mother was Genghis Khan in drag. She wasn't college educated, nor a teacher. But she did know me enough to know when I was just whining, or really had enough.

[@leonabarkell1809]

What an amazing conversation by two phenomenal intellectuals! I will have to listen a couple more times to absorb it.

[@stanleyarmstrong2898]

A direct result of the redicalized left: prior to early 21 014, the Walmart,, where I worked had a transvestite gay fellow as a customer service manager. He acted effeminate. In fact, he either leered at me or tried to flirt with me. Usually both. He had a very unreasonable customer one night. He, being black, channeled an aggressive black mother. He treated that person who paid his salary like a naughty child. He was reported to higher management, and immediately terminated. Pure vindication of reinforced insanity.

[@KAGISOMASEMOLA]

Also, the level of grace these gentlemen wield is world class 🫶🏽🤟🏽

[@andrewm9963]

Newt Gingirch is no 'gentleman' - if you think so, you know nothing about this man. He is/was a very shady career politician. He is arguably the one who started this hardcore partisanship in the 80s. "A number of scholars have credited Gingrich with playing a key role in undermining democratic norms in the United States, and hastening political polarization and partisan prejudice.[6][7][8][68][69][70][71][72][9][73][74][10] According to Harvard University political scientists Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky, Gingrich's speakership had a profound and lasting impact on American politics and health of American democracy. They argue that Gingrich instilled a "combative" approach in the Republican Party, where hateful language and hyper-partisanship became commonplace, and where democratic norms were abandoned" - sound familiar? Exactly what we all hate in American politics, he started. Don't let this interview fool you. He voted against many common sense policies simply because they were by the other 'team'. Bills like the the Civil Rights Restoration Act of 1987 he voted against.

[@Safe-and-effective]

Very true. Not really a common sight these days.

[@vinista256]

@@andrewm9963 thank you for injecting some reality in the midst of all this fawning. And at 1:30, did he actually say that some Democrats “would like to murder the likes of you and me”? Yikes! Talk about being divorced from reality (and engaging in a little decisive, inflammatory rhetoric). Then there’s this cozy little family life JP describes at the beginning. Newt’s only children are the ones from 2 marriages earlier-he doesn’t have any with Calista (who is about the same age as his daughters, and whom he started banging while married to wife #2, who didn’t agree to an open marriage, so he ditched her shortly after she was diagnosed with MS). Of course, none of that personal stuff is relevant to performance of one’s public duties-I mean, it’s not like anyone should be impeached over a consensual affair, right 🙄.

[@BobbyxZx]

@@andrewm9963 you called gingrich a gentleman... no, my friend, that right there is an old swamp monster from the 90s. that's the dude that was in charge of the house when we were doing all the blackwater/killing brown people for military contracts stuff. and he was in power during the famous (non) WMDs that bush used to (falsely) get us into the iraq war. this is one of the masterminds of that era. he is sub human, not a gentleman of any sort. a trader of human lives for his own wealth and power. a devil in a cheap suit.

[@jackwillmore2319]

@@vinista256 , good points.

[@k98killer]

I never heard Gingrich participate in a long form conversation like this before. Thoroughly impressive man. The statement "you are probably a deeper thinker than I am; I'm just a politician" seemed particularly humble and self-aware for a politician.

[@BitcoinMeister]

It was at that point in the show I was pretty sure that Newt had never FULLY listened to Peterson before. Maybe a few clips here and there. He seemed overwhelmed on a certain level.

[@jackwillmore2319]

@@BitcoinMeister yeah, I was wondering the same thing. They are engaged in explaining things at very different levels yet it didn't seem to annoy either of them or slow their thoughts.

[@johnnyd7507]

Gingrich is in no way humble. That you believe he is speaks to his strengths as a politician. The Contract with America was a gimmick to get votes. Period. Every politician that signed the Contract, including Gingrich, breached the contract immediately after getting elected. The linchpin of that contract was Term Limits. Abandoned immediately. Gingrich has done not done anything towards that goal. Some great spin and revisionist thinking on his part. How has any of his legacy advanced socioeconomic progress? That man was utterly ineffective. And he’s no great historian either. He is in entirely a BSing politician.

[@k98killer]

@@johnnyd7507 I did not say that I believed he is a humble man. Re-read my comment. "The statement ... seemed particularly humble and self-aware for a politician." You don't have to write a book about how wrong the fictional me in your warped mind is.

[@chucklindenberg1093]

@@johnnyd7507 *The Contract with America was a gimmick to get votes.* It really is amazing how easy it is to actually look up the Contract with America on this new fangled invention called the interwebz, and also very surprising that you didn't do so before posting your basic ignorance in this comment section. To be fair maybe you aren't capable of comprehending what was actually written in the Contract with America, or maybe you can't be bothered to know what actually occurred in Newt Gingrich's terms in the House of Reps. *The linchpin of that contract was Term Limits.* This sentence feels like you are living in your fees fees right now, but I really can't say for sure that I know for a fact that you have placed your fees fees over facts. Whether or not you are living your life in your fees fees, it seems likely to me after reading the actual document that term limits wasn't the lynch pin that you think it was, at least for the Contract with America. Also Gingrich didn't even come close to serving more time than he was allotted by the terms of that contract so.... *Abandoned immediately. Gingrich has done not done anything towards that goal. Some great spin and revisionist thinking on his part.* Seems likely to me that you are engaging in a bit of spin and revisionist thinking yourself; just given your interpretation of events and what term limits actually mean in the Contract with America. *How has any of his legacy advanced socioeconomic progress?* This feels like something a leftist would write honestly, or at least someone who 100% believes that big government advances socioeconomic progress. Of course the fact that you are a big government proponent also naturally puts you in direct opposition to Gingrich and the Contract with America. *That man was utterly ineffective. And he’s no great historian either. He is in entirely a BSing politician.* Honestly seems like you aren't much of a historian either; so you might want to stop throwing rocks from the front door of your glass house. What entertains me to no end though, is how often leftists like yourself think that your opinion about who does or doesn't measure up as a conservative should matter.

[@UrsusPolaris01]

Wisdom is useless if it is not shared, in my opinion. Thank you both for this discussion/ lecture.

[@louisebellavance]

Verily truth Will set you free as to sharing, prayer to God is meaningful especially when its about someone we care to help

[@dakotalandandcattle]

I completely agree, sadly it often parallels the adage about leading a horse to water ......

[@leslieparker8584]

Great interview. I have massive renewed respect & appreciation for Newt Gingrich. Awesome intellect, impressive knowledge of history, all combined w/ a boatload of common sense. 👍

[@joydrummond2288]

I am from Georgia and in college worked for my hometown newspaper during Newt Gingrich's first successful Congressional race. I interviewed him and covered many speeches locally. I will tell you he has said the same things and has had the same view of government and governance now as he did in 1978.

[@ladymanners618]

Those beliefs are fundamental to conservative philosophy. I believe them as well.

[@davidmcleod6032]

Ironically, it will be historians in a future (if we are to have one) age that will point to Speaker Gingrich as the stalwart of Conservatism that laid the path out of the insanity of the 20th century.

[@gnomeresearch1666]

I live in what used to be his house district. To think we had Newt as our representative back then and now we have been saddled with Lucy McBath... My how things changed here.

[@johnchristmas7522]

So it wasn't just a placard for an election, it was truthfully meant. Unlike today everything seems to be about self.

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

Joy - I was a reporter at a small town newspaper when assigned to cover a speech by George H.W. Bush during his reelection campaign. I heard him talk about a New World Order and had no idea what that was. Probably an expanded UN or something to that effect. So I can attest to the Bush family being big government proponents along with most of the Dems favorite Republicans, the RINOs. Newt was right when he was Speaker of the House and he's right now. Why he isn't the RNC Chair I have no idea.

[@connieatkinson418]

We need a speaker again like Newt. Thx for your service.

[@raidensama1511]

👆scam beware

[@connieatkinson418]

@@raidensama1511 I had it removed. Thx!

[@connieatkinson418]

@@jmp01a24 No skin off his nose. He will continue to be the most influential thinker of our time.

[@Juan-fv5su]

Jordan Peterson is a gift to the world that, like so many great men in history, will likely only be truly appreciated to the degree that he deserves long after we're all gone. That being said, I will be eternally grateful to him for saving my life with his book, his lessons, and his obvious love for people ❤️

[@mariesan3710]

God Bless Jordan Peterson and his family . He is a highly intelligent man.

[@evoluidotechvelhawisdom5814]

​@@mariesan3710👍🏼 Truth!

[@jrobert6872]

👍

[@lancealdren8570]

One of the best conversations I’ve listened to, it gives me hope for the world, and it should be a program on tv

[@dianelively8582]

My 16-year-old granddaughter is amazingly conservative and so is my 24 year old daughter. They’re very Internet savvy and know everything going on but I’m telling you what, they don’t like it.

[@angelaconner3131]

Girl they are going to make it.

[@strongback6550]

It's fairly easy for young women to become conservative when you have two choices. One is to have a loving husband and a family. Other is having to deal with bearded ladies with fat cocks and cro magnon bone structure that want to hang around in your toilets and changing rooms.

[@levcimac]

I think young folk instinctively feel something is off in contemporary Western culture, a blip in the matrix which the blind-sided ideologies on the Left (the atomization and amplification of human identities into oppressed groups) seem to be fueling with ever-increasing intensity.

[@dianelively8582]

@@thaduece6376 As a boomer I agree.

[@uprebel5150]

@@thaduece6376 Let Gen X run the show instead of octogenarians.

[@b-radsadventures6846]

It is always so nice to hear honest, intelligent people who can articulate their thoughts on reality.

[@ebonypenguin2899]

Thankyou Newt Gingrich for your service to America. Thankyou Jordan Peterson for your service to the planet. I'm listening from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia ☀️

[@cynthiao.543]

Love this! Have so much respect for Newt Gingrich....the wisest of politicians...tremendous understanding. Thank you! 😊❤️

[@sergiob6272]

Fascinating how there is so much psychology in politics. Regardless of what you think of him, Newt is a highly knowledgeable politician and extremely articulate…

[@andrewm9963]

Newt Gingirch is a very shady career politician. He is arguably the one who started this hardcore partisanship in the 80s. He was like the Steve Bannon of his day. He basically did GOP's dirty work during that period and they repaid him by elevating him to the whip. "A number of scholars have credited Gingrich with playing a key role in undermining democratic norms in the United States, and hastening political polarization and partisan prejudice.[6][7][8][68][69][70][71][72][9][73][74][10] According to Harvard University political scientists Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky, Gingrich's speakership had a profound and lasting impact on American politics and health of American democracy. They argue that Gingrich instilled a "combative" approach in the Republican Party, where hateful language and hyper-partisanship became commonplace, and where democratic norms were abandoned" - sound familiar? Exactly what we all hate in American politics, he started. Don't let this interview fool you. He voted against many common sense policies simply because they were by the other 'team'. Bills like the the Civil Rights Restoration Act of 1987 he voted against.

[@RachelLovelace]

@@andrewm9963 Well, you certainly know how to copy and paste. I won't argue with you though. I'm not a huge fan of the man either politically... but he is articulate and civil; something most of us these days certainly are not.

[@andrewm9963]

@@RachelLovelace As you can see there's nearly 10 sources reflecting my point. He was and is anything but civil. In fact he started this highly combative politics we have now. As for articulate - there's always been smooth talking politicians that can sell ice to eskimos. The first democracy of Ancient Greece fell because of demagogues who's articulate lies convinced the population falsely. Gingrich is exactly the same thing. And now with 300 election deniers running in the mid terms, Republicans are acting to end democracy. And that's no exaggeration, Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate Tim Michels said the quiet bit out loud when he said Republicans ‘will never lose another election’ in Wisconsin if he wins. And it's because people like you fall for the lies. Of are convinced 'articulate' = honesty.

[@Danaluni59]

@@andrewm9963 top the list of your election deniers with Hillary Clinton, Stacy Abrams, and Algore.

[@darthnatas953]

@@andrewm9963 Wrong. The Democrats have ignored the Constitutional limits on government power for the last 120 years. The inevitable result is an out of control Tsunami of spending and control over everything and everyone. It's about time someone stood against this. Gingrich is not the answer. He had his chance and did nothing except run his mouth. Real change is coming, it is just a matter of how bad things will have to get before the 50% of the people who have an actual private sector job will put an end to it.

[@leprechaunsrninja]

"At times I think you are a deeper thinker than I am. I'm only a politician." - Gingrich. A tasteful touch of humility and personality

[@gregrising3668]

From a guy that is a genius and a library of historical knowledge, it was a tremendously humbling way to say "you lost me" on the psychological .

[@appawin9331]

Newt Gingrich’s podcast is very insightful. People of high intelligence & deep thinker makes us think regardless of our political views.

[@murrismiller2312]

I have prayed for years for Newt G. I knew he was needed, still - by America. May God bless him with all Godly wisdom, and a broad listening audience.

[@williamwhitten7820]

*An absolutely amazing conversation as Newt and Jordan take each others ideas and merge them conceptually. Fascinating.*

[@michaelbabbitt3837]

Yes, so stunningly good!

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@jmp01a24 *You sound like a Marxist*

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@jmp01a24 *Ah so you ARE a Marxist! Thanks for admitting it you Commie creep!*

[@cindyrobertson3798]

Dear William I think each is a really good listener. And thinking of replying while the other speaks. My dad used to read a chapter, then ask what we had heard. Do that with kids ,grandkids. Learning to really listen and re frame the information

[@williamwhitten7820]

​@@cindyrobertson3798Hi Cindy, I agree, learning to listen and stay undestracted is essential to learning. My grandfather was a great teacher, he was an amazing craftsman, he would make things for me when I visited him on school break each summer. He would talk while he showed me what he was doing and explain why he did things in the steps he did to make them. He made me a wooden chess set using a lathe for all of the bases and then hand carving the heads of the pieces. He also made the chessboard out of a dark and white hardwoods. He made me a beautiful dagger out of a file. He ground the file into shape on the electric grinder and then fine tuned it with sandpaper, and finished it with sanding rouge to a mirror finish. He fashioned a brass handguard and end piece and made circles from a quarter inch thick piece of leather. He put the dagger on the late again and filed the handle to shape with a hand file. The burnt the leather into beautiful shades of browns to black. That was the most beautiful dagger I have ever seen. He also made miniature tool set for me, it included a steel vice about an inch and a half long that actually opened and close. Working pliers about 3/4 inch long, a ball peen hammer with steel head, and wood handle. and a flat-head screw driver in the same scale. My mom through all that out when the family moved one time. She didn't even know what was in the cigar boxes I kept that stuff in. But she also tossed my chess set and chessboard...which I found to be so stupid I couldn't believe she could do such a thing!!! I still have a miniature spinning wheel that actually spins by pushing on the foot lever. It is a foot tall. Ah,,,the memories. Aye?

[@raith_deantoir5389]

This could have gone on for 4 hours and I would have still been invested in every word. Both men are masters at making you think and reason that there are different ways to think. Exceptional content.

[@BobbyxZx]

how do none of you guys remember that gingrich orchestrated the wmds of post 911 and was a war monger right beside gw and rummy? this guy's soul is made of excrement, my dude. you've been fooled by a slick toungue.

[@bungalowmo]

"The future has publicists, the past has prison guards" What an epic quote! I wrote this one down, so I may not soon forget. Edit: I just finished this entire interview/conversation. These 2 minds...I could listen to them for another couple hours. Both at an equal intellectual level, I did get a chuckle when Peterson finished a very detailed description or thought & Gingrich replied with something about he's not that well versed in the psychology of...whatever it was. Peterson looked down at the pencil he was rolling in his fingers & had a look on his face like 'I guess I went a little overboard there', as if he forgot he wasn't lecturing to his psychology students! 😂 It just gave me a chuckle. Overall...such an interesting 90 min.

[@douglasnicholas1860]

Yes, I definitely could listen these two for many more hours on their sensible discussions. It would be nice to sit in a room with these two and add another dimension to the conversation. They even might find it intriguing.

[@carriemills6931]

P Pl

[@redhead8777]

Me too!

[@omegapointil5741]

And black kids aren't allowed to be taught of their own history. Bizarre. Get the Lawyers.

[@tmg6558]

I think Newt was politely demurring, as one of the best Historians in this age, he knows Psychology too well, as most of history is made up with human Psychology.

[@TheNephilim101]

Love Newt ! Great to see that he is as bright, sharp and wise as ever.

[@matthewcerini699]

I've always considered Mr. Gingrich to be formidable and articulate in my youth; however, at the time I was raised a working class Liberal and my father ran on Row D for local assemblyman. That said, like my father, I have always been fiscally conservative, pro-freedom, anti-war, law abiding, moral, anti-racist, pro-worker, anti-welfare, pro-family, etc. I would be considered a Conservative today with those same values. I am not affiliated with any party, independent and vote for who I feel will best represent me and my family. In the past, I tended to vote more Democratic and supported Clinton, Mario Cuomo and even Chuck Schumer and I never understand the influence Mr. Gingrich has had on those people. Most people I know treat their party like their favorite sports team with stubborn loyalty regardless of their party's shift in ideology and don't even realize it. This has been an eye opener for me.

[@mauricejohnson6283]

I was born to be a JFK Democrat. By definition, now in 2022, that makes me a Conservative. A relative to the opposite mindset position. I've bounced on both sides of the isle all my life. I don't trust any party. That said, at the moment, the republican party seems to be the most repairable but, I believe we are watching the very beginning of a new party coming - The American party. No more half-time political shows.

[@JesusChristAlmighty3]

@@steakovercake3986 I identify as an overweight lesbian black woman so as to be respected and given courtesy by the members of my modern society, who pander to those whom they deem marginalized based on a laundry list of physical descriptors. You should drop all your understandings of the world and join me in my journey as an XXX lesbian black woman as I convert to Islam in order to reach the apex of the victimology pyramid of identities.

[@run4cmt]

I agree that many look at things as team D or team R. We need to get away from that and assess what each candidate stands for and how they will vote.

[@rogerc23]

It’s important to note that those that voted in Trump did so knowing he was taking out the Bush’s the Cheney’s, Obama and the Clintons. That was the political change we needed. Unfortunately most people couldn’t see the forest through the media disinformation trees.

[@sbriks]

@@rogerc23 Please find Peter Zeihan's series on recent presidents.. your comment is so valid.. I will steal it.. if you don't mind..

[@kraykray4446]

Wonderful discussion. Thanks Jordon and Newt!

[@Acop649]

I love this conversation. I learned so much. My respect for both of you has gone through the roof. Thank you .

[@zeds.6783]

Wow, I listened to this interview/discussion on the audio-only podcast, but the video is so much better. It's amazing how seeing the expressions on these two men's faces as they speak to one another really informs the listener. I'm going to have to watch some more of the episodes that I'd originally only listened to.

[@user-zf5bj1nn1r]

Thank you for such a wonderful, thought inducing, articulate discussion Dr. Peterson and Mr. Gingrinch.

[@JoeSmith-oy3hk]

* Dr. Gingrinch

[@bearwithabark]

You have a great name, Thanos Diamantopoulos

[@freebie2585]

Newt, You're great! So glad you didn't retire. Our kids grew up listening to you. We had roundtable discussions of religion & politics very often and as they grew, daily. Homeschooled in San Diego K-12 (real hs, not given assignments by a public school), 1 now in grad school, the other studying engineering. We delved into history, our Constitution, used Hillsdale College's free courses in high school. Mr. Peterson, this is a great interview. Get your kids out of public school. If you home school right, you'll be out & about busy. People always commented as to they're mannerly & well spoken/look adults in the eye. Both been to Israel w one of them 3x, both to DC to lobby Congress, learn leadership. Grad just got back from 4th trip to DC. Neither allowed to do social media until graduating high school, had to pick up the phone. We lived humbly, bought in barrio neighborhood, keep cars 19 yrs to live off 1 income. You can do it folks! Pull your kids out. They will be our next leaders & voters!

[@Edward-tz7xz]

Superb. I have been following Dr Peterson for some time, not wanting to miss any of his programs. I am not only informed, I am inspired. I now have a whole new positive view of the person Newt Gingrich. Thank you very much.

[@patmccormick4597]

Absolutely loved the conversation with these two gentlemen.

[@RobertFoster1]

Best interview of the year. I'm so amazed. It was like two friends in a deep intellectual discussion.

[@friarnewborg9213]

The NEXT ONE (between these two) will be even Better

[@accountabilityisadmirable]

I owe you my life JP. You gave me strength to keep breathing knowing my illness has no cure, I live a life of pain. You gave me strength . Thankyou so much. Your a gift to humanity.

[@hannibalsdiner1365]

Every volley from this team a grand slam with the staggering impact of reality!

[@guymigliaccio620]

A truly adult conversation between two worthwhile speakers. I felt like I just got a brain massage. This makes youtube very worthwhile. Thank you.

[@neo-sh6ul]

Thank you Jordan. You have played a major role in saving my life. My five years of depression are over. Understanding Depression/Nihilism in such a way has made the experience a bit like alchemy for me. My inner experience feels very calm now. Thank you

[@jglee6721]

Congratulations. Hopefully you get into meat based diet too. I think a lot of depression can be attributed to not getting the good nutrients from meats as plants have too many anti-nutrients.

[@joshuaperry4112]

Make sure to take a breath and just look back at how far you've come, what you're getting to, and where you want to be. I'd personally do it at least monthly to keep yourself on track. Be better than yesterday

[@neo-sh6ul]

@@jglee6721 Hey thanks for the good wishes, appreciated. I have worked as a strength coach for athletes I can fully attest your diet and fitness play a major role in both physical and mental health. My own experience, which is not suited here can come from a trauma outside of your control. Having the wrong information can result in a person fearing their mind is creating their suffering ,which can cause all sorts of issues. Thankfully I was fortunate to meet a fantastic physical therapist, and along with educating myself eg Dr Petterson and Andrew Huberman amongst others, educating myself on my nervous system made a huge difference in finding calmness.

[@jglee6721]

@@neo-sh6ul Excellent. Sounds good.

[@szeredaiakos]

Did you have fun crawling back out?

[@allmywdwrk]

Two of the brightest and intelligent men of our time. This is what a roll model looks like. Grateful I came across this interview. 👍🏼

[@gailurge3301]

Awesome, epic and outstanding discussion...God moves in mysterious ways. Good to hear N.Gingrich share my sentiments as a right-wing, old school/R. Reagan republican, Christian conservative patriotic American.

[@jsb127]

This entire conversation on the Daily Wire+ is fantastic! 2.5 hours and I still wanted to hear more!!!

[@Keet619]

WOW! Two of the greatest minds of our time in one interview. Thank you so much for this JBP et al. Lets add in Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson and Dennis Prager to the conversation next time.

[@branden3102]

This was a wonderful conversation. Both men were tremendously kind and courteous to each other all while being really insightful.

[@brunoruegg2172]

thank you, Newt

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[@JackPoynter]

This is an amazingly informative and useful video. As a Georgian, and a lifelong conservative, Newt Gingrich has always been one of my favorite people, not just my favorite politician.

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[@margaretmeyncke3592]

Bravo! Keep bringing thinkers and good discussions to your fans! We listen. We talk. We seek truth! 👍♥️

[@usmanciwan8285]

Hello How are you doing today?

[@BuckFoeJiden]

I've ALWAYS held the utmost respect for Doctor Gingrich. Newt, I appreciate you and your work. Thank you for your service to the American people. You deserve every ounce of success you get, and more.

[@smelltheglove2038]

Newt is great. He’s my favorite guest on Lou Dobbs podcast. Those two are fantastic together.

[@BuckFoeJiden]

@@smelltheglove2038 I disagree with him on a few policy things, but most everything else I'm right there with him. Even if I weren't, though. His predictions are pretty spot on, and he's a great conversationalist. Dude's crazy smart. I'll have to check him out. I've never been a huge Lou Dobbs fan, but he's also a very smart guy.

[@smelltheglove2038]

@@BuckFoeJiden I wouldn’t sleep in Lou Dobbs. The guy is sharp as a tack and knows exactly what the establishment republicans are doing. It’s actually pretty scary how well he knows them. That’s why they had to get him off of fox. He was pointing g out the corruption on the right as well as the left. They can’t have that.

[@demetripapachristopoulos3295]

The best interview/conversation I've had the pleasure of witnessing for many, many years.

[@betbuk]

This was a BRILLIANT conversation!

[@robbie_]

I remember him from the 90's, and I have a feeling of negativity around that memory, because of course all I knew about him had first been through the digestive system of the mainstream media (BBC, etc.). But from this discussion I agree completely with everything he had to say, and think he's a very intelligent man indeed. Thanks, both of you.

[@mauricethorne5890]

I am pleased to hear your appreciation of Newt Gingrich. I have not read any of his books, and have never made a study of him, but I just really appreciate his apparent sincerity and a kind of humility that keeps one's words realistic. It was because I sensed the dedication of this man, that I wrote to him for his advice regarding one of my grandson's, who seemed to me to be kind of stuck in the middle of a situation that kept him so often silenced. I wrote to Mr. Gingrich, and he recommended The National Geographic for children. I thanked him in a short letter, and began the magazine for my grandson He really got into it. The child had also expressed a growing interest in insects. His enthusiasm for the NATGO, encouraged me to offer more information for his intellectual grown and to keep him happy in his findings. I discovered a publication about insects in a binder, with additional periodical pages to add.( I think they came every month for a year.) He loved this as well. He is now in his late thirties, with a good job, a great wife, a sweet little girl, and some dogs, on ten acres in Texas. What impressed me most about the response from Mr. Gingrich, was that he even bothered with me at all, in such a trivial matter in comparison to other matters in his daily doings. This also impressed my young grandson, that someone in Washington would care about his pleasure, or lack of it. He was a quiet kid, and a good kid, and became more and more confident. I know it was a small thing, but small things can turn mole hills into mountains, -or something like that. I have always thought that Newt was a good Speaker; further, he was fair with Bill Clinton, (I thought), and cares about our country and its citizens. He, or someone he trusted, saw to it that somebody bothered to give a grandmother advice to help activate the struggling imagination of a young child. I am still thankful to him; and I thank you too, -for recognizing the good deeds of such a good person.

[@maiingan07]

Thank you for sharing this with us. Your story really touched my heart and so happy to hear your grandson is doing so well. A beautiful story really, and it reminded me of one of mine. I hope you don’t mind me sharing it here. A few years back, after my Dad had passed away, I had been going through what had been some of his old office papers and such from before his retirement years. Actually, there was a lot of papers from after his retirement as well now that I think about it. Anyways, through some of his folders, I had found letters from our senator who had been in the senate for a considerable amount of time and also those of some of our representatives. A lot of these letters, if not all, had been handwritten. They had answered my Dad’s concerns through their own penmanship. My Dad was a normal, everyday, hardworking constituent, that was all. He never wore business suits, never hung around politicians, that’s for sure, he also related better with his dog than a good number of people, and found his peace in our woods. My Dad was one of my most favorite people in this world, and I miss him every single day and always will. My Mum would have claimed it’s because I am so much like him, and now that I’m older, I would agree. I do believe there had been a time before the internet, our politicians would hand write their own letters. I’d like to think they did this to their more important ones, but I’m being a bit selfish there. I truly believe your letter touched his heart and pulled at his heart strings all at the same time. You searched out for a person you had respected and believed he could give you solid advice and he did. He saw your honesty and your love for your grandchild and so of course he felt it necessary to answer you properly and with thought. I wouldn’t be surprised if he remembers your letter about your grandson and maybe one day you can ask, or simply write to give him an update from years past. Again, thank you for sharing. Be well. 💐

[@bungalowmo]

@@maiingan07 @mauricethorne5890 I so enjoyed reading both of your comments! So beautifully personal, but so happy you both decided to share 💜

[@alanab9674]

Excellent cpmment.

[@alanab9674]

Maurice. Excellent comment.

[@carlsails58]

Newt really care about people. I met him there in Newnan Georgia where I had moved to back in 93. He had a small office right next to the people who handle workman comp claims. I think he actually got involved, got me an appointment with a dermatologist there in Newnan and a referral to Emory University in Atlanta and got my problem taken care of.

[@MarcoVermeij]

I'm getting a totally new view of Newt Gingrich, he is smart and well read, thank you JBP for presenting me the chance to change my opinion on a lot of things !

[@drband8181]

One of the few interviews where the interviewee gets to drive the conversation. Dr. Peterson, thanks for allowing Newt to explain the foundations of American conservatism in such a detailed way. Newt would have made a good and very interesting president.

[@gregoryolenski4650]

Another fantastic conversation. Thank you Dr Peterson.

[@JosephDiveley]

Two of the people I love and respect the most having a conversation. This year Christmas came early so THANK YOU!!!

[@carolynthomas8193]

Dear Mr Jordan I listen to your videos and am amazed at your wisdom. I know that if you seek Truth you will find it. It is a law of nature and a spiritual law. I am not a religious zealot, but when I listen to your videos it seems that you truly are seeking Truth. I have found Truth and would like to share with you what I have found. Sincerely, Carolyn

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[@danaypuebla9411]

Thank you Jordan for bringing the brilliant Newt Gingrich in to your wonderful podcast 😊

[@googlekonto2851]

As someone who hates america i also support Newt gingrich.

[@Brasilcowboy1]

What a wonderfull job Perterson! You are doing a enormous contribution to society! 👏🏻👏🏻

[@JamesGeraghtyLondon]

Thank you. Wonderful conversation. How things have changed. 🙏

[@phylliscory2105]

Freedom to pursue the highest goals, yes. Thank you Dr. Peterson.

[@EddieReischl]

Loved this conversation, reminded me of the ones I used to have with my dad. It really struck me when Speaker Gingrich started talking about being involved in balancing the federal budget after they won big in 1994. Both my dad and I were really impressed that they had been able to do it, but I, similar to what Gingrich said about the Fed and Greenspan's reaction to it, was wondering what sort of an affect it would have on Treasury rates and that in general it might get the system sort of out of whack. His response was, "Well, they're part of the government, sooner or later it'll dawn on them that they actually balanced the budget, and they'll start spending money like it's somebody else's money again." Sure enough, the press just kept at it with Gingrich and eventually ran him out of the Speakership, and the spigot was cranked back up and everything started going downhill after that. It would be nice if the Republicans get back the Congress in 2022, if someone can step up and fill the void. This country sorely needs some intellect and competence to sit juxtaposed against the "cleverness" of the current administration. I mean, if we're all forced to heat our homes with wood stoves because every other source of energy is in short supply and outrageously expensive, versus freezing to death, is that really the most efficient way? Did big government really help? Was the solution they came up with really "clever"?

[@jackc981]

We do need people like these two thinkers To help us in the future I appreciate y’all.

[@cannonball181]

A. ?c?bi0 L0l

[@richardfroste4548]

It is a blessing to listen to two men grounded in reality. Talking Heads grounded in reality is rare in today’s society.

[@schroederscurrentevents3844]

I knew about Gingrich but I had no idea he was so well read, he really impressed me here with his thoughts and articulation. If I could’ve voted in 2012 I would’ve voted for him.

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[@tmg6558]

As a former Tulane student of Newt, I did vote for him. I met Newt and Callista at Ye Olde College Inn restaurant for his speech there and worked for his '12 candidacy in New Orleans. "Moot Miit" Romney stopped Newt in the GOP Primary,.... and then threw in the towel instead of fighting to win and gave it to "The Won!" (O: "Show us the documents, Candy!", and then Miit failed to rip him a new one for rigging a national Presidential Debate.)

[@JosiahHague]

Great conversation. The bit where Newt says "Hope somebody near you is thinking" ... man that's funny & relatable.

[@josephtravers777]

Heavy hitter, Dr. Peterson! The real deal 👍

[@MarceloLGarcia]

Great conversation. Thanks for sharing so much knowledge and wisdom. Articulation of a vision can only save us from the corrosive and corrupted establishment.

[@orlandostevenson7214]

These longform interviews continue delivering timely and compelling perspectives!

[@purplethumb7887]

Fantastic interview! One of the most intelligent dialogs I have heard in a long time. Thank you!

[@viralworkaholic6766]

A truly thought provoking talk. I have gained a self examination into my own life experience. I have a deeper understanding into the mind of Newt Gingrich. I am truly saddened that our perception of Mr Gingrich doesn't represent his character. I am perplexed as to the disconnect. I blame in part, our justifiable contempt for politicians on the whole. I shall watch this video several more times. Thank you both.

[@friarnewborg9213]

"our perception of Mr Gingrich doesn't represent his character". WHAT? Who is "OUR"??? In your thinking, you need to Upgrade your perception of Newt, and severely Downgrade whomever that OUR is. If it is the LIEstreamMedia, you should have seen through them Long Ago.

[@pro-seriesfabrication3810]

Maybe because I've been in Georgia since 1992, but Newt has always been this way. One of the true intellectual standardbearers of conservatism.

[@jalanh.1777]

Thank you for posting this incredible conversation! I will probably listen to this at least three times, I think that I may require my teen age children to listen as well. Thank you both Dr. Peterson and Dr. Gingrich.

[@mommyseastar5776]

Wow, another one of my favorite thinkers, this time from the realm of politics!! I’m seeing some common threads in many of these discussions. I’m seeing a thirst for the ultimate good and the ultimate freedom of man to be found in the discipline of Love.

[@23cpower]

Have admired Newt Gingrich for years. This wonderful interview by Jordan Peterson brings out the profound practically and genius of this man. Common Sense Visionary Conservative. We need more men of this stature.

[@michaelbabbitt3837]

Thank you for this conversation, Dr. Peterson - so excellent on both ends. You lifted each other up. ( BTW, I am praying for you as I have heard you say you were in a lot of pain. I hope many other fans will pray for your health. Lots of love...)

[@adelinosantos5211]

The two best contemporary thinkers in all around social matters.

[@earlschandelmeier751]

What a phenomenal conversation!

[@viktorhammerstein]

Speaker Gingrich and the Contract were part of my earliest political education and, when contrasted with what I saw on the other side of the isle (c-span was an incredible educational tool at the time), an unavoidable shaper of a thoughtful, logical worldview. I still have couple of his books kicking around the house here somewhere, I believe. It's fantastic to see him still active, still as lucid and formidable as ever.

[@joeywood3759]

I actually thought he probably wasn't qualified to be president In 2012.. which was the first election I was old enough to take part in. My assumptions were entirely incorrect. He seems like a smart guy and a well rounded candidate. I'm glad JP had this talk with him, giving me a chance to familiarize myself with Mr. Newt Gingrich a bit better. Especially considering I was completely uninformed on him before this video.

[@bhough410]

He's bought and paid for multiple times over. Your initial instinct was correct. Don't be fooled because someone speaks eloquently!

[@joeywood3759]

@@bhough410 my initial assumptions were based on literally no information at all. It's not foolish to change your assumptions when confronted by new information. Not doing so would be foolish.. also being "bought and paid for" isn't inherently bad. For instance, if the people who are paying him are good people with fair and balanced ideals and reasonable expectations with the intent to do actual good are who "bought" him. I'm not saying that's the case, just pointing out that it's possible. Another possibility is that maybe he's being supported by benefactors who believe he is the one with the fair and balanced ideals and believe in his abilities and his track record. Being paid for what you do isn't a bad thing.. it usually means that you're good at what you do.

[@meagiesmuse2334]

He is very smart and articulate. The problem with him for most of us who are older was his personal life. His treatment of his ex-wives was abominable, but by today's loose standards, he might have gotten a pass on it.

[@nuqwestr]

@@Tyrannosaurus_5000 Catholic annulment.

[@meagiesmuse2334]

@@Tyrannosaurus_5000 - You can easily look up his history. He's been married 3 times. The circumstances of them are also quite public, and there are many accounts available from reliable sources. He's a hypocrite, just like the rest of us, part good and part bad. I loved the Contract with America and think he would've been a very good President.

[@glenkelley6048]

The "what if" Civil War trilogy by Newt is a wonderful examination if the reasons for the war and a GREAT READ!

[@serafinadd6437]

Gingrich is an amazing historian and this is a great conversation! Amazing points! I like at 56 minutes when JP is closing his eyes like in deep thoughts over this mess!

[@Bertemus60]

What a true delight. Two of the finest intellects of our time bouncing ideas, thoughts, & current events off one each other & breaking it down with such great insight & thoughtfulness. Yes we could all stand to listen to folks like these much more often & turn off the Main stream media & all of the garbage masquerading as entertainment for a change.....our minds would be much healthier reading & listening to quality humans like these. I hope Jordan gets around to to a similar chat w\Thomas Sowell, another of the great intellects of our era

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

@@steven5054 - What bearing does a Libertarian have on this?

[@elingrome5853]

@@steven5054 Sowell is too old now - but id love it to happen

[@jamesgogan9369]

Excellent talk... Gingrich explains complex things very clearly...

[@RC-yj3ft]

This is an amazing program. Thank You!!

[@crym77]

1:08:17 "I think at times you are probably a deeper thinker than I am. I'm only a politician," with a big smile. I love Newt. He's one of the great heroes.

[@titsmcgee8885]

After witnessing the beginning of the video I was finally in awe at someone who finally put into words what I’ve been thinking.

[@Rosiehearts321]

This is an incredible conversation. Bravo. Thank you Newt Gingrich and Jordan Peterson. God bless you both.

[@zoraidaiglesias934]

Thank you Mr Peterson for this interview. Love it. Enjoyed it very much. Shared with my kids, nephews and younger friends. God Bless you both.

[@robertashackelsworth1775]

This is one of my favorites. I got to know Mr Gingrich more, and I feel a great need to read his books to know more. Thank you

[@64kdawg]

This is a brilliant amazing conversation. God bless these two gentlemen 🙏

[@1fferritto]

Two amazing, strong and right on the mark men.

[@darrenbates997]

Two brilliant men! Great conversation.

[@greggbrumley173]

Excellent job! Big fan of both guys. One of the best interview of Newt I have ever heard.

[@harrygaul4475]

Brilliant interview and one of the best from Jordan Petterson

[@JHPReis]

What a great talk! Two brilliant minds and contributors to our understanding of this mess. Thank you.

[@someguyinflorida]

It's always refreshing to listen to a conversation between true thinkers.

[@joaquinmariano6286]

Thank you both of you for that very interesting conversations and discussions of various topics!

[@donyork8641]

Excellent & insightful discussion! Thank you!