XL Bully owners take over Westminster, and armed Met officers surrender their weapons | Pubcast #22

On this week's Pubcast we're chatting XL Bullies and their owners, after Ed spent his weekend walking the streets of Westminster speaking to people who keep the soon-to-be-banned dogs.
We also look into the decision of some armed Met officers to hand in their firearms last week after one of their colleagues was charged with the murder of Chris Kaba in 2022.
Finally, Ava kickstarts a new segment all about Edwina Currie and John Major's tryst.
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[@catherineboland6751]

Watching Ava laugh that much at her own joke about Captain Tom the XL Bully who loves walkers brought me such joy 😂

[@TheRapierTheBetter]

that one killed me, so funny

[@MT_T991]

That was a funny joke tbf.

[@andymoody8363]

So, so funny. I love these guys.

[@ian_strachs]

I didn't get it, could anyone explain haha

[@kevinfitzpatrick444]

A Geoff Marshall/Politics Joe crossover where Ava takes him to that secret tube entrance is suddenly something I need in my life

[@neil_estate]

Same!

[@ttookkyyoo]

We know for a fact Geoff would be well up for that secret parliament tunnel too

[@artjacob5359]

The XL Bully owner suggesting that the agressive ones may have 'some form of Pit's gone into them' whilst wearing that T shirt is the very definition of Irony.

[@richardhands904]

Cba to go back, what was the t shirt

[@DJWESG1]

​@@richardhands904 a picture of pits and xl bully cross dogs. She must not know xl bully's are pit crosses.

[@jsrodman]

Of course, "pit bull" isn't a breed, but a group of breeds. And a study showed that there isn't a correlation of the group of breeds with agression. What correlation there *is* is that large strong dogs who DO misbehave can cause a lot more damage. That's a real factor. But really no one should be misttreating dogs, so there's definitely some safeguards that could be put in place with adopting dogs.

[@mafino]

why do they keep saying 'at the end of the day'? is something going to happen at 11:59pm?

[@foehammer5047]

My favourite was the lady doing race science on the XL bullies. She's sat there watching a 62kg dog maul a toddler and pausing it going "LOOK! LOOK! LOOK AT THAT SKULL SHAPE! THAT'S AT LEAST 5% PITBULL! AT LEAST!"

[@rabidbigdog]

Part time phrenologist.

[@Serpent0fEden]

"why go for the XL Bullies when there are rapists and murderers?" Pretty sure rape and murder is illegal...

[@dannytoots6635]

Init 😂 as if it’s a choice between one or the other.

[@DJWESG1]

Tell the police that.. they seem to keep forgetting.

[@MadKieranM]

Pedos go to jail for horrendously short sentences and are then re-homed back into society. These dogs if not up to standards will be destroyed end of. Pedos are definitely worse.

[@saintjimmy456]

@@MadKieranM Are you suggesting we bring back the death penalty or that dogs get jail sentences? Can't tell which, but both are dumb.

[@laravonstaden1838]

You pose an interesting case for bringing back the death penalty.

[@davidbates3057]

The acceptance of mediocrity in this country is the thing that pisses me off the most these days as well. Honestly, I knew Brexit would be a disaster, but there was a hope in me that it would succeed and people would finally wake the f up and realise that it's the government, not the scapegoats they keep peddling that is at fault for all our problems. But no, people still accept this BS, they'll accept this BS when Starmer gets into office, and they'll accept this BS when the Conservatives eventually retake control in 5 or 10 years down the line. And they'll do it while acting all f-ing superior to migrants, refugees, and every other ethnic group around the world. We're living in a nation of massive f-ing hypocrits.

[@greedyboi011]

People are jumping to conclusions on this idea of them being forcibly put down. The most likely thing is that they have to muzzled and kept on a leash in public and neutered. Something which a lot of dog owners do anyway. People need to get the fck over it. You want a dangerous dog, accept there are rules that come with it. If it were me in charge i'd make every single dog owner have to prove they are responsible enough to own ANY dog, period.

[@ericdavison6186]

Yes. Also ban sales of muzzles leashes and collars in supermarkets. My local pet shop takes such care to provide the correct product for the breed concerned.

[@TheLucanicLord]

BbBBbBBbbut MY dog is speshewl innit.

[@JordanMcCarthy-bh9tu]

You should be neutered

[@EdJames-tb9oz]

You need licences for cars and firearms, both potentially lethal implements, why not dogs specifically breed for fighting. I would even support compulsory licences for any animal with potentially aggressive training such as guard animals. The animal may be fine but the human behind it may not be.

[@ericdavison6186]

@@EdJames-tb9oz yes, a bit off topic here but I stuck my head in the door of a new reptile shop this afternoon, and on the floor was an 18ft python stretched out! And people keep them?))

[@l_git]

The point is that it is a dog that if it kicks off it can tear a person apart. A poodle or numerous other dogs arent going to do that.

[@085cur1ty]

Absolutely

[@rabidbigdog]

Indeed. All dogs, raised 'properly' or not can nip or bite and will do so. But it's the *size* of the dog that determines the damage. Cats bite and so do lions. It's pretty obvious which one is a problem and why you can't keep lions.

[@Nexus804]

Ironically you picked a breed that has a diagnosable rage syndrome, and some dogs need to be put down because of it - but aye, your point stand 😂

[@edwardbrowne258]

Right, so all Saint Bernard's, Huskies, Spinger Spaniels, Labradours, Alsatians, Irish wolf hounds, Huskies, sheep dog breeds, etc., etc, etc, should be banned. Hey, if you wanna be consistent then fine, but do be consistent. I, or you, could train any of the above to be a killer, or to be absolutely fine. (not a dog owner and have no literal or metaphorical dog in the fight here)

[@kdog4587]

Tbf a dog walker near us was walking 5 schnauzers and i dont know what happened but they ended up killing 1 of them and attacking the dog walker. So i guess even smaller dogs can cause harm but i dont really like dogs anyway so i don't care about banning whatever. I'm sick of off lead dogs in general, in kids parks. Too many close calls with my toddler. Id say keep them all on leads everywhere except somewhere especially for purely dogs.

[@NotLikeLee]

If a small dog is aggressive you can just pick it up. 😂😂😂 he makes a good point.

[@ShakirahIbaad]

Exactly the point of banning larger breeds 😂 I don’t think he meant to argue for an even more expansive ban of larger breeds 😂 but he did.

[@maverick5039]

Who created these breeds? Ban mankind may be…think about it…man kind is responsible for all the decline we currently see 😂😉

[@Czechbound]

*That was a VINTAGE episode* ... If you're putting together a Christmas episode, there will be lots of great banter/ jokes to draw from. Everyone on top form today. Very, very engaging, enlightening, informative. I come away feeling better than I did when I started listening. Well team team !

[@johnsometimesoffandsometim8933]

I saw my neighbours xl bully having sex with a Kangaroo here in Queensland last week. this could be a problem .

[@Cotonetefilmmaker]

just as a reference: in Switzerland all dogs beyond a certain weight (after they reach 18 months) have to have mandatory training . Then I think after an even higher threshold they have to have a muzzle

[@tom420guitar]

This makes so much sense. It reminds me of the gun law debate in America - why do people need machine guns? Why do people need 60kg+ dogs with bite forces that can break bone? The regularity with which certain breeds bite isn't even the main issue, it's the potential for damage that is the real concern. A dog of that size needs to only turn once to seriously injure or kill someone. In Australia, we've had one woman this year who was mauled by one of her three pet rottweilers and nearly lost her arm, and just recently a man was killed by his rottweiler in Tasmania. His wife was also seriously injured. This just cannot happen with a chihuahua, or even a cocker spaniel or Labrador. I've met lots of lovely lovely big dogs, but people need to address the fact that these animals have the potential to kill and seriously maim people in a very short amount of time, unlike other dogs.

[@sfBE11]

That acceptance of failure is something I noted after I came back from a holiday in Belgium, this country as a whole just feels like we jacked it in completely.

[@dh1380]

It's happening everywhere and it's because of career politicians

[@raylder6339]

Let’s be realistic as well, there’s dogs that weigh 80-90 kilos that are clumsy as fuck but they don’t go into such crazy attacking frenzies as these specifically bred creatures.

[@MT_T991]

I worked for a chap who's friends owned Great Danes he was mounted a few times on visits. As a young apprentice this was found to be rather amusing.

[@BlessingofGeb]

But then there's the other side of being realistic. The most likely breed of dog in the UK to bite a person as an act of aggression is a labrador. German shepards and staffys close after according to a study published by pet insurers animal friends. Why not ban those breeds when they are responsible for so many attacks? What about Jack Russell's? Didn't Liverpool police release figures in 2016 showing it was Jack Russell's responsible for most attacks in Liverpool? Should we ban Jack Russell's? Should we ban dogs all together in summer months? Dog bites go up 10 percent in summer months. The reality here is that a breed of dog that can look tough and therefore is common amongst drug dealers is being persecuted because of what some of these bad people are training these dogs to do. What happens after you ban them? Drug dealers stop using dogs as weapons all together? No they buy an illegally bred one or a legal breed but train it to be just as deadly. The breed is not the problem, the UK is

[@matt69nice]

The issue with the dogs is always going to be that I, a person walking down the street, do not know whether you've trained your dog well, or whether you've trained it to kill. Personally I think the dogs that have attacked people have probably been trained to kill or for home defense or sport, or given no training at all. The issue is that I have no way of knowing and feeling safe. You say you don't feel safe without it, but I don't feel safe with it. If everyone else walked down the street with a dog you wouldn't feel safe either! This is devolving into the debate over second amendment rights in the US.

[@geedee1264]

It's more likely they've been abused, that's why you have to be careful with rescue dogs even if they aren't aggressive, because even after being taken out of the environment sometimes their brain already breaks from the suffering and they revert to pure aggression

[@damnson666]

The issue with the police is always going to be that I, a person walking down the street, do not know whether you've trained your police well, or whether you've trained it to kill. Personally I think the police that have attacked people have probably been trained to kill or for home defense or sport, or given no training at all. The issue is that I have no way of knowing and feeling safe. You say you don't feel safe without it, but I don't feel safe with it. If everyone else walked down the street with a police you wouldn't feel safe either! This is devolving into the debate over second amendment rights in the US.

[@thenefyncat6970]

XL bullies? Set Cruella Braverman on them, that'll teach 'em a lesson they won't forget in a hurry.

[@dominicparker6124]

drinking challenge : Take a shot every time you hear "At the end of the day" during the xl bully segment

[@Lee-bv6iv]

At-de-end-o-de-day

[@jesseparker8878]

Do you know what I mean?

[@laurenceT141]

I dont see why we shouldn't address poor dog ownership head on. As anyone who lived through the debate about Staffies being crossed with Pitbulls in the early 2010's will remember, banning a specific breed just leads to people picking the nearest looking alternative and claiming their banned dog is one of those. We should have a size based license system, just like with motorcycles, cars and trucks. Have an accredited training scheme for anyone wanting a breed thats average weight is above 30kgs, breeds need to be certified by a vet, and we should have a flat "leads at all times" law when in public places for all dogs. I could even see it being a good idea for a dog trainer or vet to be able to issue an advisory temperament assessment for whether a dog should be muzzled in public. We microchip most dogs these days, it should be fairly easy to include this info on there. Oh and anyone breeding and selling dogs needs to be licensed and inspected.

[@ShakirahIbaad]

This is exactly what the regulations should look like

[@00wil77]

I very much remember the salmonella saga, I made an Egwena Curry for a primary school Easter egg competition. Thanks guys.

[@Shaggy-8392]

Too any dog owners try to intimidate you with their dogs and let them go free on pavements and parks without leashes. Don't care if they chase anyone. I think it's good the government is banning at least the dangerous ones.

[@laravonstaden1838]

That is advocating for the dogs to suffer because their owners are too irresponsible to care for both the dog and fellow humans.

[@johnnypatterson7512]

The fact that you have to train these animals a specific way in order to keep them under control is worrying and should tell you they are dangerous.

[@085cur1ty]

I follow a breeder on KZbin and he is unbelievably talented and hardworking with his xl bullies- it’s literally his job he does all day- and even he has ones that are more problematic. If he, a breeder& trainer who does that shit all day STILL has problems with these dogs then how on earth are normal people supposed to keep them under control. It’s insane and they need to be banned immediately. Those dogs are dangerous, terrifying creatures.

[@laravonstaden1838]

@@085cur1ty They should NOT be banned. Drop me a link to the trainer you follow, please, I would like to see his training method. I have a great deal of training experience too.

[@johndavidson3600]

You could say that about any dog. All dogs have to be trained.

[@johndavidson3600]

@@085cur1tywhat are you talking about? All dogs can be dangerous. A chihuahua can brutally hurt someone, given the chance.

[@085cur1ty]

@@johndavidson3600 yes but a chihuahua is so small that you can very easily not give it a chance. You can’t just pick up an xl bully and throw it off you

[@jayplay8140]

Loaded guns shouldn't kill innocent children if the owners are careful ... and yet. XL Bullies are no different

[@085cur1ty]

Absolutely

[@killasonqo]

Ten years ago I briefly worked for a company that did consultations with members of the public regarding HS2 in the areas that were going to be directly affected by it. Just from that consultation it was abundantly clear that the London to Birmingham line was almost universally unwanted, but the northern legs were something people regarded as worth having. The government should have taken this into account early on in the process.

[@DJWESG1]

Didn't you realise it was just a glorified land and power grab at the time?? I studied it many many years ago as part of my degree, and it was abundantly clear that it was a global criminal conspiracy.

[@WhichDoctor1]

you can't have a big infrastructure project unless its going to directly benefit London. Thats just not how Westminster works

[@foehammer5047]

"My 63kg dog is fine as long as he's not a mixed breed. It's mixed breeds that are the issue." Lol.

[@ChrispyP]

This episode was a certified banger. Ava was on fire! 😂

[@truthteller99999]

If anyone had a negative impression of what the typical XL Bully owner looked like Those interviews certainly confirmed their suspicions!

[@LunaRose1312]

Yup, typical norf fc skinhead types

[@axspike]

Know what I mean bruv! 🙄🙄😂

[@Lee-bv6iv]

​@valhallavidya161 Ate legislation designed to reduce arm to humans Ate Rishi Ate muzzles (not racis just don't loike them) Ate a child's leg Luv using anecdotes to inform me opinions even if that might mean me nan has to have facial reconstructive surgery following a completely unexpected attack by our beloved family pet Simple as

[@00001rosco]

I was badly bitten by one these dogs - one that I rescued - twice within a week. When people hear this, they expect that I would be all in favour of a ban, and when they hear that I dont, they ask why not. This is why not: because im neither a simple minded moron, or a cowardly politician looking to score cheap political points by prescribing a simple solution to a complex problem, to hell with all the collateral damage, families torn apart and innocent dogs being murdered that would inevitably result. It breaks my heart to think of the suffering that the dog I rescued, must have experienced in his first home, before being abandoned and ending up spending two years in a shelter. And it breaks my heart that I didnt have sufficient ability to fully rehabilitate him, and he had to go back to there. Sadly, it is true that these dogs often attract the wrong sort of owners. Sad most of all for the dogs who often are twice victimised, first (in some, but by no means all cases), by their scummy owners who mistreat and torture them until they are made to become dangerous, and then by the state. There is solution to the problem. But taking meaningful enforcement action against animal cruelty, and reliably sending people to prison for animal abuse, is obviously not a route the government wants to go down. Much easier to repeat a few thoughtless, easy soundbites, stoke popular resentments, grab some headlines in the right-wing press, and pass a decree - even knowing in advance that it will not, nor could ever, be successful in its ostensible aim - than do something that would be effective, but would actually take some thought and effort and money, which is plainly , far too much to ask of Sunak, Cruella, et al.

[@gubbins1622]

If you can afford to feed a dog the size of a bullyxl then I am pretty certain you could afford to have it neutered. Also there are a lot of charities that offer the service.

[@ShakirahIbaad]

Exactly, they should be neutered anyway as should any responsible owner of a dog or cat.

[@kdog4587]

Absolutely. My stepdad didnt neuter his springer and when she got old she got super poorly. They should ne neutered always unless theyre for breeding. Same with cats definitely. Mine were all neutered and spayed soon as they could be.

[@yetidodger6650]

anyone who says it's not the dog its the owner know nothing about the genetic traits of certain breeds and the dangers of mixing certain breeds.

[@EamonCoyle]

Thank you Eva, we in N.Ireland know more than most about over application and use of force against civilian communities and with cases like the British Soldiers clearly killing kids in uniforms, or being involved in killing squads there is a case to answer !!

[@shadypenguinuk9747]

That woman claiming they’re not her favourite dog breed wants to see the birth certificate

[@donkey_oaty]

I have a small, scared dog. And the idea of that woman jogging past me on the street (with dog) is an absolute nightmare for me. My dog would freak out barking (triggering the bully?) and I have no ability to avoid the situation. I also wonder if there should be a requirement for the owner to be physically able to restrain the dog. No point in a lead if the dog can drag you along (I’ve seen kids holding the lead in the past).

[@xdylanwx]

🗣🗣🗣 "LOVE PODCASTS HATE NONCES ITS THE POLITICSJOE PUBCAST LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!" 💯💯💥💥

[@tomburgess4741]

Thank you for your topical and comically-fueled pubcast, strewn with laughter; good for the soul after a hard days work ...🤓😂

[@foehammer5047]

The reason people can accept failure and mediocrity in their country is their lack of genuine pride. Going to Europe theres very little litter because people still care about their environment and communities.

[@danblake726]

Just here to say big respect to Capital J Journalist. Intelligence, critical thinking and self-perception are three of the most attractive traits in people of any gender. Loved the way she responded to Laurence by not just pointing out what he had clearly done wrong but by acknowledging the context of men's poor mental health to the original discussion. Left his defenders with absolutely no leg to stand on. 👏👏👏

[@danswellandthesymptoms]

Based on what’s happened since I support Ava’s right to open carry.

[@1pauljs]

Ollie is a very patient man 🤣

[@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769]

The woman who walks the streets doesn't get much business. Something to do with the company she keeps. The geezer with the studded dog collar looked very saintly and responsible with his Cerberus lead.

[@taranjk1]

Can we just ban the breading of dogs with known unhealthy traights like most pure bred dogs e.g. dachshunds and pugs.

[@johnwelch5132]

Your thumbnails are wonderful 😊

[@StrikingAlexa]

Surely an xl bully would be a lot bigger than a pitbull staffie cross, staffies arent that big

[@dominicparker6124]

why are people talking about [this specific thing] when there are [other things] that should be paid attention to! Fallacy of relative privation. It is possible for us to fix more than one thing at once, jfc.

[@topcat8804]

"My dog is harmless". Also "I only feel safe with him".

[@Christinebanks11]

In my country 🇺🇸 OC AND CS gas IS LEGAL for civilians. We even have oc and cs gas to protect against animals. No matter how much you love dogs , at the e d of the day, theyre animals. THEY BITE !!!

[@Scampleton]

XL bully owners love talking about the end of the day

[@m1nfy]

The work around for XL bullies will be the same as all the other dogs on the list. Overnight the dog becomes a cross breed, and is exempt from the law. I've worked with dog bite victims for over 20 years... in no case was a dog identified from the list. The law is useless.

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

Whats the point in becomming a police officer if you're not allowed to break the law with impunity? Its wokeness gone mad.

[@cinamontaste]

Yes! I agree!

[@chromenewt]

On defining dog breeds, it's in the interests of government and police to keep the current status quo whereby police can visually say they are "of pitt type" and already can judge them to be dangerous to seize and destroy. Bullies are frequently mixed with mastiffs, staffies etc to get a bit of genetic variety, and if you have other mixed breeds within the acceptable niche then they're also going to be scrutinised as part of this.

[@legoisland]

Drink every time an XL Bully owner says 'at the end of the day'...

[@barredfrompup]

Or "ju'naa ah mean"

[@albertbrammer9263]

Yet again, you know these people with XL Bullies are fools. Any reasonable government can do more than one thing at once. As for the woman who said she was safe with her dog in effect means it would attack if someone got close.

[@albertbrammer9263]

The dogs should be destroyed IMHO. A 10 stone woman cannot control an 8 stone dog if it gets angry. And the bodybuilder types are just wanting a "status symbol" to show how "tough they are".

[@tylernightingale6200]

By far the funniest politics podcast, genuinely brings a refreshing light tone to an otherwise gloomy political commentry scene!

[@UK_Sgt_7094]

I think the discussion on armed officers was so disingenuous, it was so obvious that not one of them would ever look to serve the public and are more than happy to jump to conclusions and say.. well they are highly trained so tough luck, the comment also of no one asked them to do this job was disgusting. Yes officers are highly trained, but no amount of training will prepare you for a real incident when you have to make that split second decision on if you should fire. There is hardly every any shots fired by the UK police due to the level of training they receive, any time they do the automatic assumption form the press and public is that they were wrong to fire, i am sure that the CPS are not swayed at all by public opinion of the met and have properly looked into this before deciding to charge the officer. All the officers are asking for is a fair look at their actions as anyone would want to and some support from their chain of command, no one has said they want crown immunity this is just another assumption from the hosts of this show.

[@zooblestyx]

Try replacing UK with US, and XL Bully with gun.

[@Nexus804]

A 60kg dog is larger than some adults, never mind children. His four year old is probably only like 20kg or something.... It's a melting pot of problems. People buying large aggressive dogs for the esthetic and the reputation. Those people will potentially not be able to handle something that size. I have a 20kg spaniel, and if he sees a rabbit he can near take my arm off, never mind a dog that weighs the same as an adult and is even stronger. I'm sure there are loads of responsible owners with well trained, well bred dogs, but when there is no pedigree to check that you have bought a responsibly bred animal, how do you do your due diligence? How do you separate the responsible owners from the twats, because there is nothing surer than it's the twats that cause the problem, not the dogs.

[@joejjj4378]

Why is it to an XL bully owner everything happens at the end of the day?

[@givemeabreak100]

Their thick chavs

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

😭 😭 Why is everybody always picking on me? Everything is a conspiracy. 😭 😭

[@ShakirahIbaad]

They have to go out at the end of the day to avoid crossing paths with kids and other dogs 😂

[@burtcocain1986]

In this episode, we find out that Politics Joe is filmed literally on the street and not, as we initially were led to believe, in a pub..

[@staninjapan07]

29:15 If you were in the park with your toddler and XL Bully (which viewed your toddler as a member of the pack to be protected at all costs), perhaps you might not feel so negative towards them. Just a thought. I am not a dog expert or an owner of such a dog. So any KZbin whining at me. Muted. No discussion.

[@pandemoniumgaming6344]

Wish I could come to liverpool to watch the live pubcast, hopefully maybe Manchester one day. Great episodes as always, laughing with you all the way

[@avedr]

No surprise the police are throwing the toy's out the pram they always act like this when they have to take any responsibility for there actions.

[@cdean2789]

I'm glad they didn't turn up with their dogs.

[@Daniel-we4bo]

Honestly fucking love you three, I laugh more at this than comedy podcasts 😂😂😂

[@Harley-kv4fd]

Love to see Ava laughing 🎉 shes great.

[@Jon-xw9om]

Genuine question: what is a "traffic nonce"? I've never heard those two words together before.

[@MnemonicNex]

I want Ava to write a Edwina/John Major Memoir

[@MT_T991]

"Its the dog that keeps me safe" Does that not suggest that the dogs are agressive.

[@ShakirahIbaad]

Exactly, if it’s a sweet harmless pet that just looks intimidating then it won’t protect her at all.

[@Mkalikapisa-ui7by]

Re HS2, @ both ends of the London/B'ham line archaeologists exavated big C18 graveyards. The St James' overspill cem'y lay under Camden Rd, in the way of the new platforms, now unwanted

[@Le_Petomane]

So whats actually going to happen "at the end of the day" ? People kept saying it but im non the f@cking wiser.

[@cdean2789]

Dogs look like their owners.

[@patrickwilliams6143]

The intros back then!

[@veggienugnugs]

I'm picturing XL Bully dog owners dressing them up like chickens to disguise them 🐔

[@MattHealey.]

The owners can say what they like but the dogs are bred for violence. It’s inate. It’s sadly not if they attack someone but when

[@laravonstaden1838]

Bad spelling is no excuse, did you go to school?

[@jenny2tone242]

@@laravonstaden1838 Did you? Where is the bad spelling?

[@laravonstaden1838]

@@jenny2tone242 It should be “innate” not “inate.”

[@richardhands904]

​@@laravonstaden1838cringe

[@DJWESG1]

​@@laravonstaden1838 you people are the worst. More worse than xl bully's.

[@mesaaa08]

jfc people in GB not ever knowing anything about Northern Ireland (in this case the legacy bill) is so mindnumblingly irritating

[@m1nfy]

The dangerous dog act has been ineffectual for decades... it needs redone, not another name added to a pointless list.

[@GucciedUp]

What % of men would takedown a XL hamster?

[@vickywitton1008]

Whatever dog you have you need to be realistic on how much time and training you can give it. Some need more than others, so you cannot be complacent about it. I have a lab and know.he is very soft and gentle but I still train him and keep him in line

[@sfshinz]

Find that 2% of men, and have them fight tunas.

[@mystic_mimi21]

17:34 If you cannot afford to neuter, muzzle, and register a dog ie with a chip (which is the law no?) and have a sufficient lead, you cannot own the dog, should not own the dog. Goes for any breed, goes for any animal. Having a pet is a luxury, a privilege, a responsibility which comes with expenses . Same as having children. I love sausage dogs but I know they are inherently a very attack prone, aggressive dog, hence why if I am able to have one I would take every precaution a large dog owner should. Size does not excuse aggressive poorly trained dogs. Yes indeed I could pick up a tiny dog, get it better under control but complacency is dangerous. I sympathise with the owners but those dogs are or were bred for a specific reason which genetically makes them dangerous. Nature will kick in, even very well trained dogs could revert back to natural instincts. Moreover I do have to question why a person wants a dog that has such capabilities of harm, goes for other breeds. Certain breeds just should not be pets. All the owners interviewed proved our fears. Like the owner who uses their dog for protection while out, granted I sympathise as the streets are dangerous for many and we are not protected properly, but I’m sure a drug dealer who owner one uses the same logic, to protect them, the owner in the black top, saying it’s genetics, that they are mixed with other breeds which don’t mix, often it is intense inbreeding which can causes issues too. You cannot say it’s the owners not training them, if they were trained attacks wouldnt happen l, while also saying it’s bad genetics which causes attacks. Which is it, surely ‘good owners and good training’ should bypass or override ‘bad genetics’, or is it ‘bad genetics’ win regardless?

[@TomNook.]

See, I don't mind idiots. I don't mind if they are illogical, make decisions based on emotions rather than facts, and if they have the reasoning skills of a toddler. But it gets serious when such people are in control of tools and weapons - or in this case, animals - which have the capacity to harm others. Either the weapons need to be removed, or the idiots do.

[@CJ16055]

Love podcasts hate nonce's will never not be funny tbh

[@charliedouglas7567]

Ollie's face when Ava mentions Jordan Peterson hahahahhahahaha

[@MT_T991]

Response to Ava and xls going through tunnels at crufts. I would think they are better suited to digging hs2.

[@ChrisMalme]

For goodness sake, someone give Ed a fresh cuppa. He keeps looking in his cup and it is still empty!

[@cynicalpenguin]

Regarding scrutiny of armed police the question is whether the IOPC/CPS are responding based on public pressure/politics rather than on the facts. We cant know without seeing the evidence, so we can only blindly trust, and trust is in short supply. The only way to really solve this is a complete overhaul of the police's attitude and culture to make the public and especially those from minority backgrounds trust them again, then we will have less polarity and unrest when it comes to cases like this.

[@radianman]

Today it is the American Bully. In future it could be Rottweilers, Bullmastiffs, Akitas, Wolfhounds, or any large dog breed. Ultimately, any large dog could potentially be banned simply due to it’s size. If you ban guns, katanas, and crossbows then people with bad intentions will simply move to knives, which is why the UK government has been trying to ban knives. It is the same thing with dogs.

[@eugdee7293]

Remember the soldiers in Northern Ireland were in the UK when they committed those atrocities. So they should be charged in court the same as any UK citizen who let say murders 14 innocent civilians who are on a civil rights match. UK State sponsored domestic terrorists

[@dh1380]

It is wideley recognised that bulldogs are among the most docile breeds providing they have been reared appropriately

[@085cur1ty]

American xl bullies are a different breed to bulldogs

[@IoannisCrouch]

Loved that! 🎉

[@LunaRose1312]

Dont ask those XL bully owners what they think of trans people 😅 protect the kids tho until its my dog the size of a small tank

[@DJWESG1]

Surly the problem is you.. you who would assume everyone with a large dog is a kek.

[@marcdalton8488]

Leave the Bullys alone but go after the owners who don't look after their dogs there are smaller dogs that are proper nasty and no one says a word, Whats that about lol nearly every bully dog I have met just wants a fuss and say hello ill say no more 😮

[@GetGwapThisYear]

Ava, I reckon there's a lot of crossover between the media skeptic XL Bully crowd and the pharma-skeptical crowd, so those nights out would probably look pretty similar.

[@Notalloldpeople]

Dangerous dogs are those that attack - big or small just introduce a muzzle law for all dogs and problem is solved overnight. No dog is dangerous until it attacks. The counter arguments from the XL owners are a combination of ‘not a true Scotsman’ fallacy and arguments from incredulity. This

[@chrysalis4126]

When did you last hear of someone being savaged by a Pekingese or a Cavalier King Charles? Dog breeds bred as lap dogs have a much lower chance of aggression than dogs bred to fight or kill other animals, it's simple genetics, we need to be breeding more gentle breeds not appealing to men's egos and desire to look hard through their dog.

[@DJWESG1]

​@chrysalis4126 I don't know about savaged, but my bulldog has been attacked by springers on three occasions, the owners of said dogs were your typical working class person suffering from a lack of class consciousness and think themselves middle-class and thus above the law of public spaces.

[@StrikingAlexa]

​@@chrysalis4126Chihuahuas are lapdogs but can be amongst the most aggressive breeds

[@jsrodman]

High Speed Rail isn't too expensive. Not building high speed rail is too expensive.

[@kylemear]

Go on Ed with the Zombies reference

[@EamonCoyle]

Cruella Braverman said she will take Afghan hounds over Afghan people any day !!

[@ne-ht4zx]

The discussion about the police was the most puerile nonsense I've heard on this channel. At least get someone on who knows about the subject, and have a sensible conversation without the cliches and giggling.

[@HelenChadwick-v3i]

Parliament dog attack!😂😂😂

[@NinoBaggins]

You guys are good vibes man ❤

[@tommynocash2419]

Ava should have a gun to discipline oli and ed