Polyamory, Entanglements & the Black Love Enterprise

[@TeeNoir]

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[@Liolia22]

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[@rooboatdeer22yu51]

YOU are so beautiful. every time i watch your videos I GET LOOK AFTER LOOK AFTER LOOK and I learn??? uhg f*** I love everything about your channel.

[@shabakahouse2125]

It is on black women. industry is patriarchal. However, jay has to have submitted to bey way of life although he benefits her as well. usually the man is allowed multiple and if the woman is, it's the men are doing the approving Facts: August was manipulated but also partook in the BS patriarch system cus. Women are blamed for life, for everything

[@Korecarnation]

Can you please do a video on asexuality and how it is underrepresented and misrepresented in media and society? I think that when we talk about sexual liberation we need to talk about the fact that some people don’t want to and society makes them feel like something is wrong with them.

[@hannahspencer5430]

JACKIEEEE

[@KatBlaque]

I haven't really been listening to a lot of the will and Jada stuff but Ive observed quite a few poly couples reach out for relationships with vulnerable, often young folks. I'm not gonna say that's all or even most but it's not really uncommon unfortunately. I'm polyamorous but I'm pretty aware that some poly folks see partners outside of their primary partnerships as tools to solve something in themselves or their relationships. Not an untold story.

[@LadyJoolree]

Ooooh Kat, I was hoping you'd reach! I love it when my favourite KZbinrs converse 💕

[@anony1596]

I do a little dance every time I see my fav girlies in each other's comments. 🥰

[@Jo_-_-t.a]

Hmmmm see this is such a grey area of relationship dynamics and specifically the balance of power. In crude terms and for want of a less 🍃 response.... an established and consenting couple wanting to open up their marriage in whatever fashion they chose, is in its self a power move. In whatever relationship dynamic they go on to have together or separately, their relationship holds the balance of power. Whomever enters that will be in a submissive role.... this is not about the act of sex. No. It is interpersonal.... I agree whole heartedly at the questionable dynamics of the age/material resource and power that was so weighed in Ms Jada's favour, with that point in that man's life. HOWEVER, not at the fact that she, as do we all, have sovereignty over her relationship choices. Her and Will have a respectful marriage and yes their marriage is part of their very lucrative brand. It's their marriage let them have at it their way. Only chill how you use people, cause believing your own toxic self awareness can undo that very carefully created tapestry of the "brand" .

[@jazthespaz837]

Kat PLEASE make a video on this too! I'd love seeing my favorite creators add to this conversation

[@fatikam3045]

Ooohhh, tell it!!!

[@queenie_ie]

People not understanding polyamory is why I got off of dating sites. Man proposing a poly relationship, being weird when I ask details. Then, when it came down to it, admit their partners don't know they're in a "poly" relationship and they still have to talk them about it. Them getting more upset with ME because I say "You realize that's cheating, and not polyamory." Now I'm being called judgemental and stuck up lmao. You're cheating and dressing it up with a pretty name. And making it harder for people with healthy, functioning polyamorous relationships to fight stigmas.

[@lunawolfheart336]

Same tho it's so frustrating. Or I had someone literally tell me because I'm in a long distance polyamorous relationship that I just haven't found the right one yet as if I don't actually love my long distance partner Wich I do I love her more than anything. It's just that I can be in love with multiple people idk how that's so hard for people to grasp.

[@esther589]

Absolutely! I met a guy who said he wanted a polyamorous relationship. For some reason he just couldnt wrap his little mind around the fact that the ability to have multiple partners goes both ways. He said it was disgusting that he wouldnt be enough for me but he was definitely going to be with other women so i was like the hypocrisy is real, im leaving. He lost his fing mind on me he got so mad 😂💀 i just laughed like please stop.

[@Hsjsjskekdocienskspsbebdvd]

those people are the reason people look down upon polyamory, I’m not poly myself but its frustrating literal cheaters justifying their cheating with a legitimate type of relationship lmao, there’s horrible people everywhere 😭

[@neftana8]

This the one!!!

[@KRIS-gv1iz]

@@esther589 again that my dear is a 80% fool 10% reasonably minded individual.

[@WeGonBeAlright]

Everything I've learned about the relationship of Will Smith and Jada Pinkett the last 4 years has been against my will.

[@TeeNoir]

You gotta reconstruct your algorithm then

[@WeGonBeAlright]

@@TeeNoir the TL get so thick after Red Table talks!

[@dangerdavillian8603]

😖😂 Right. Its so hard not to give in and click on a video and see the different POV on viral topics.

[@tropicalstormxox9444]

Fail. Lack of originality. Copied comment . NEXT

[@MariO-zx3ft]

Jaded against your will power

[@jackieaina]

I will def be checking out bright cellars because those quiz questions were speaking to me!! I’m intrigued

[@TeeNoir]

It was so easy! And they hit the nail on the head with my shipment.

[@bowtie345]

Omg, I love you Jackie! And also you Tee...❤️

[@MessyMaj]

COLLAB COLLAB

[@suoutubez19]

@@MessyMaj hmm, not sure. they cover completely different things

[@tatendamhindurwa6380]

Loving this!!!!

[@shannon1188]

No one ever talks about Will admitting to stepping out on his marriage. They always like to just blame Jada.

[@Ravioli-uw9uy]

@Devin S. Yessss

[@celinek9686]

Exactly, everyone conveniently forgets that. And the people who do acknowledge it spin up some nonsense about how it's different when men do it.

[@swankm9821]

@Devin S. why not be upset by both?

[@azaliahangulo]

@Devin S. True. I think it’s easier to get more upset with men when they cheat. But I don’t think it’s the “men” necessarily. I think it’s the sexual objectifying type of infidelity that is more upsetting. Men are associated with sexual objectifying women, the male gaze is historical proof of how long men have see women as objects. But if a woman was cheating and she sexually objectifies men, it feels just as bad. Because she chooses sex over the emotional bond she’s developed with her partner. The person who has been cheated on feels like they’re aren’t attractive enough and are deceived because they thought their emotional relationship meant more than just sex. But when men and women cheat seeking emotional intimacy elsewhere after being wronged in a toxic relationship, people root for them. Both intimate and objectifying infidelity are definitely 100% wrong but one feels less wrong for sure.

[@kennykroyal]

@@azaliahangulo even with all this said, Will cheated on her. She did not cheat on Will. He knew of them being together and she was not hiding it from him, But the internet has painted this picture of Will needing to be saved

[@amberwright8251]

im only a few minutes in but i just wanted to note that the couple in "you" would not be considered polyamorous. They have more of a "swinger" relationship as they do not have romantic relationships with other people, and seemingly do not intend on making their relationships with others anything other than sexual.

[@PrincessTreasure]

tea. I hate it when people try to pass swinging off as being poly. it’s not the same thing.

[@AmberMusic121]

@@PrincessTreasure people seem to often forget that being poly is having and creating relationships with people. swinging is often just about sex and especially in "you" they are always doing it together. they wouldnt even be considered non-monogamous in my opinion because they are doing things as a unit and seemingly not separately. so more than anything they just like threesomes and foursomes.

[@saml.purecats4695]

100%

[@MainelyMandy]

Thank you for pointing that out. Most polyamorous people I know who watched the show found that lack of distinction rather frustrating

[@ve-ronnie-ca]

Yes , ironically she mentioned how she doesn't want "you" and carry and sherry instability make poly look bad but its comparing something purely sexual like swinging to poly relationships which is what perpetuated this negative stigma that poly ppl are just horny and the relationships they have outside of there spouces aren't real or can't be romantic cuz that con only exist between 2 ppl

[@esssymee7227]

Will and Jada's marriage was written by Tyler Perry

[@nutshell9]

maybe🤔😂

[@juratory8876]

Girl CHILL 😂

[@misstxterth0t]

YO CHILL😭😭🖐

[@niyahseion5469]

when i say i diedddddddd😂

[@cynthiahoward2285]

😂😂😂😂😂🤣

[@angeleblg8100]

Thank you for putting an emphasis on the fact that August and Jada's relationship was fucked up, people were so focused on the whole polyamory thing that they forgot that a 43 yo women had a "healing" relationship with a broken 21 yo man who was originally one of her son's friends... If Jada was a dude and August a woman, I know people's reaction would have been different.

[@sugarpearl9781]

I saw a lot of people (mostly women) talking about the predatory vibes that relationship gave off.

[@mynameisuju]

@@sugarpearl9781 this. I know exactly 1 woman out of several I've interacted with that doesn't immediately think Jada is a creep. But she also thinks Jay Z working with Bey at 16 then watching her grow only to marry her is entirely normal. Most women I know see both as questionable at best, predatory at worst

[@mmps18]

This!!!

[@BreakOrbit03]

This is what i said word for word on another forum. People wasn't hearing me tho 😑

[@JulianSteve]

This is true… Very creepy and out of pocket. August was not prepared for the “healing” relationship, especially with their 20 + years age gap😬💯

[@Melissa-ve9mt]

I think people are forgetting that Will Smith is a grown man that can decide whether to walk out of that relationship or not

[@evaphillips2102]

Really wanna see him walk out so I can have my Daddy🥲

[@mariahyohannes]

@@evaphillips2102 what....

[@FDSignifire]

Aaaaaye!! Lol my face watching this and seeing that shout out as we both drop black love related videos on the same day! And yeah I got similar feelings on Jada and Will, and defining it as an enterprise is the phrasing I had been missing.

[@TeeNoir]

Your video was the missing piece to this one!

[@mynameisuju]

Yo I just saw your video notification for Love and Basketball ball. I know what I'm watching after this

[@IsaUrameshi]

i saw the notifications at the same time💀

[@JulianSteve]

Imma watch your video later on today or within the week. My Professors are overworking me💀🤣‼️

[@LadyJoolree]

@@JulianSteve You got dis!

[@quardeeliabrown958]

‘Falling in love or having a daughter are the only valid reason for men to develop emotional intelligence. ‘ preach

[@alexrose20]

"we should all aim to be rational enough to not take it upon ourselves to try and discipline others because we feel excluded from their fairy tale- just make your own." YES PERFECT ENDING THANK YOU

[@JulianSteve]

A perfect quote for the curious motherfuckers lol🤣‼️Tee keeps it classy and real.

[@squeakumsthehottie]

Ikdrrrrr

[@KariTalks]

“Simply Jay Zs wife” I’ve never disregarded someone’s opinion so quickly. Imagine being that wrong and that loud.

[@janine2957]

that's unfair for every woman in the world, but imagine saying that about BEYONCE. if someone is label as the "partner of" for the general public is definitetly not her lmao. and also, it's quite great that Jay Z cheating on her wasn't even brought up in the tweet. that hasn't ruin the Famous Relationship Enterprise somehow

[@mim4371]

@@janine2957 because the album lemonade made people forget about it and the focus was on her music black culture instead of his cheating ass

[@Nat-ls1uo]

@@mim4371 tf you talking about? Hold up is Beyonce going off on Jay (a little mild ok) and dont even mention the poem at the begging of the video! That shit spoke to me and I haven't been in a relationship!

[@potatopotatoeOG]

The AUDACITY

[@bootydoc]

So difficult for people to simply respect black women. Even if you have nothing nice to say about them, this is a friendly self-reminder as well, silence can be GOLDEN "...took some time to live my life, but don't think i'm JUST his lil wife" - Beyoncé, Bow Down (i BEEN on) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIu3c6WprNyrhLs

[@whorrid5148]

the way the sponsorship was introduced in this video was SO SMOOTH

[@TeeNoir]

I be tryin

[@fans-ed1td]

Just because you're monogamous doesn't mean that everyone is. People will say "I could never do it" when it come to open relationships or polyamory and use that to justify why they think those types of relationships are not legitimate. There's a big difference between something not being for YOU, and you defining the legitimacy of OTHER people's relationship.

[@evette2946]

Agreed. I think it’s unfair to generalize and put down anyone who chooses to do what’s best for THEM.

[@Destiny-nz5yg]

“I could never do it” sounds like it IS them specifically talking about it not being for them, not defining how other people’s relationships should go.

[@fans-ed1td]

@@Destiny-nz5yg I'm saying that they will then PROJECT their feelings onto others. Because it's not for them they also can't fathom why or how others can possibly do it.

[@lunawolfheart336]

Yeah like I can't do monogamy but I don't get upset that monogamous people exist even if they happen to be someone I have romantic interest for. I just simply go whell we arnt compatible romantically and that's ok and move on. It's really not hard. But maybe I'm the only person who understands boundaries and respect for fellow humans

[@lunawolfheart336]

@@Destiny-nz5yg ice had people literally use this frase to tell me why I'm wrong to be pollyamerous

[@Thatsjustkendra]

Quick overshare: me and my husband have been together since we were in high school and had very few romantic experiences before getting together. We knew we wanted to be with each other, but we still had the desire to explore. For that reason, we have an open marriage now. It’s been a great experience for self exploration for us both, and has actually made the relationship stronger. We could be anywhere with anyone, but we actively choose to be with each other. Polyamory is not for everyone, but it can be a very liberating thing. Society really has done a great job at convincing everyone that monogamy is the one and only way to have a healthy relationship and that’s just not true!

[@mightymeatymech]

I'm happy for you two, I'm a bitter jaded person but hearing about high school sweethearts who manage to stay strong melts my heart ❤️

[@tofuscramble6842]

You described my relationship with my boyfriend ❤

[@DieezahArts]

Post-colonial eurocentric societies, yes... we tend to forget that this wasn't the only model for our ancestors before European powers took it upon themselves to invade, colonize, exploit black and brown people in many places, even if you're not counting the transatlantic slave trade. Polygamous and polyandrous relationships were the norm in other societies and in some places the societal model has survived in spite of religious colonialism doing its utmost to enforce monotheism and monogamy as the only acceptable values.

[@GirlDo3]

You're so pretty

[@Thatsjustkendra]

@@GirlDo3 thank you 🥲

[@ClaireHaire]

*I learned a long time ago about, how women are unfairly viewed. Whenever, there is a nude scandal the woman is shamed as if they man that begged, groveled, swore on his momma wasn't the one who broke the trust. My issue is the fact that "selective vulnerability" is becoming more popular as the rise of influencers increases.*

[@kecym.4808]

💯🔊🔊🔊

[@3ortune]

THIS

[@Laura-sg6ss]

Mhm!

[@briannanickson6656]

I hate this!

[@mynameisuju]

The funniest most ironic thing about this Will and Jada discussion is that if it had been Will whose side stories came out, people would use Polyamory as justification for why he is actually still loves his wife but is using Polyamory to "satisfy his urges" The idea that women too have these urges hasn't occurred

[@xxarianahiltonxx5116]

Wait didn't he have a controversy years ago, where people found out he was sleeping with his co-star, and no one was going that hard on him like they are doing Jada. Sick how if a wife "cheats", it's such a disgusting thing, but cool if the husband does it...

[@sarahbarabe8470]

Man or woman or nonbinary I do not care anyone who wants to do poly shit just wants to satisfy their urges. It can never be love if the person you love just ain't enough please

[@ms.x1669]

Oooooooooooohhhhhhh 😯💯💯💯

[@noirfit9721]

It would also be used by other men for the argument that “men aren’t naturally monogamous”. Something I’ve only heard black men say 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@3ortune]

@@noirfit9721 blk men always try to justify their “misfits” by using the history of blk people and the excuse of poly relationships until it’s the black woman trying to use that same excuse

[@tqt13rocks]

“Simply Jay Z’s Wife” 😂 😂 😂 imagine saying some shit like that with your chest and expecting people to take anything else you say seriously. That man is clearly Beyoncé husband.

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

LOOOOL YES!

[@mynameisuju]

Beyoncés baby daddy in fact if he doesn't behave himself

[@tqt13rocks]

Miss ma’am’s is obviously very traditional when it comes to relationship roles, but oh boy ain’t running shit

[@hachij2558]

I love seeing all these brilliant black creators supporting each other. As always the content was gracefully put together. I feel Jada is being punished for daring to be a black woman who owns her sexuality, but not dismissing power dynamics issue brought up. In my opinion she does not deserve all this unnecessary hate and I honestly feel if the roles were reversed Will would not receive the same treatment. My take away is people just need to stay out of other people's marriages and August should have brought his issue to Jada not the whole world

[@celinek9686]

Yes, yes and YES!!!!

[@DieezahArts]

This!

[@spokenfactzz7840]

Exactly! August is a grown man. That’s like a man cheating on his wife because he’s “broken”. People would still say he cheated and it wasn’t a accident lmao . People choose what they want to hold as accountable and not.

[@spokenfactzz7840]

I’m not saying she wasn’t wrong because Wtf Jada but still!!

[@alex_n215]

“If the roles were reversed” They have been. Will has been doing the exact same thing and as you said, he didn’t receive the same treatment as Jada.

[@lewisgregory1996]

You forgot about how people were upset with Will and Jada because of how much freedom that they gave their children

[@dionjones6300]

Won't ever forget

[@emmamurphy738]

Okay honestly, Sherry and Cary being swingers was the most normal thing about them at least to me lmao, it was also the only time I felt like they were the most authentic when they were talking about their relationship and what makes it strong. Honestly really didn’t like them until they were open and honest about how they kept their relationship strong that’s when I was like okay they’re complex not just gag characters to hate because they’re annoying. Was super happy when they escaped 💀

[@assianeu197]

felt the same, i started rooting for them just then

[@oracleruby]

I was so happy they survived! I loved how they were communicating in the cage even though they were upset with each other.

[@alexbudpink]

I'm glad they realized their lives were more important over arguing, I honestly thought the show was going to kill off at least one of them.

[@vyspeeds]

Same

[@201stars]

That’s the funny part. They ended up being the healthiest couple.

[@synesthesia.aesthetic]

When Will considered suicide, he was a child around 10 or 11 and it was right after his father had brutally beaten his mother. He idolized his father so much and loved his mother so much that his mind almost broke right there.

[@aliciabyul9550]

Real hard fact: you are not , will never and never can hit me infront of my babies. Tf.

[@amorelockster1023]

@@aliciabyul9550 Fr that not only fucks the person that gets abused up but also the kids

[@YiyiSosa]

My psychologist always tells me that the healthiest way to share your vulnerability is by choosing whom to an what parts of it, because vulnerability is not a feeling, vulnerability is a very important, delicate and intimate part of you as a human being. It comprehends your most profound wounds, traumas, pain, insecurities, anger, moments of joy, peace and happiness. In your vulnerability lays your worst fears and the key to your heart. So, doing “selective vulnerability” is not a bad thing, is actually healthy and a way of caring for yourself.

[@Thecolorbloo]

Being polyamorous and a woman presenting individual is so stressful. It's not surprising that mostly men are threatened by the idea of what goes on between celebrities' personal lives. By making snap judgements and throwing out intense misogyny/misogynoir.

[@potatopotatoeOG]

It's like they're hard pressed to uphold a standard on theme and everyone else around them while they slowly step out on it and make their excuses the support for the standards and leave women to bear the major load of the standards. The persecution is one of the horrible aftermaths

[@PrincessYonna1]

Actual black “love” is RARE nowadays. Only black women keep bragging about it and celebrating “black love “. Nothing is cute about closing off your options to the very men who don’t have their options closed off to just you . :) End one sided loyalty .

[@frenchgirl5878]

Preach Queen!

[@mariyahwells1234]

THIS

[@aiaigrim7191]

Glad somebody said it

[@juratory8876]

I read this and found nothing but FACTS

[@rizzybone964]

BW having their options open is a MUST! Remember ladies, character over color!

[@97BlueFlame]

I think the predatory aspect of Jada needs to be explored a lot more. August was friends with Jaden and that's how he even got involved with the Smiths. Your reflections of how the misogynic this situation has been was spot on as well just a whole mess. Definitely gonna be using that bright cellars to get through more mess like this

[@Ilovechicago100]

Jada said that august reminds her of 2Pac in an interview years ago. That right there says it all 🥺. I don’t know why people are ignoring that part when she said that. She misses 2Pac and found the similarities of him, in august although he is 20 years younger!!!!

[@elle_l808l]

@@Ilovechicago100 😮 she said that? Well damn

[@SymonnePeters]

The suicide consideration was regarding a chapter in his book when his mom left his abusive father. He was too scared to go with her.

[@clantis]

I'm Still recovering from Squid Game trauma. It's funny how hooked I was yet watching with my hand over my face, peeping through my fingers. I see you and me watch the same Netflix shows and have same point of view about the subject matter. Great video.

[@TeeNoir]

That show made my tummy hurt and I couldn't watch any episodes at night no word of a lie

[@clantis]

@@TeeNoir 😂😂😂

[@firewind3509]

@@TeeNoir I am begging for you to do a video on squid game

[@Emily-bl2vm]

“We should all aim to be rational enough to not take it upon ourselves to try and discipline others because we feel excluded from /their/ fairy tale. Just write your own.” Tee hits the nail on the head once again. I was a little worried coming into this video that there would be misrepresentations of polyamory, but everything you said was accurate. I really liked your point about how August didn’t trust Jada’s word about her open relationship, he needed to confirm “Will’s approval” too. I think it’s understandable if August thought that’s what he needed back then; he was young and new to the concept of polyamory. But now that he knows what it’s really about? To still be saying things like “approval” and “permission” shows he doesn’t really get it after all. I also liked your point about machismo. It’s sad for all parties involved. For the women who idolize machismo and get involved with misogynistic men, and for the men who are too afraid to break down their emotional walls because of societal standards. I wish there was an easy solution, but it’s built so deep into some people’s identity that they don’t even recognize the problem... It’s hard

[@TeeNoir]

Right!

[@mightymeatymech]

(I haven't watched the video so I could be completely wrong but) maybe he, like many men, has a shaky understanding of consent and therefore uses those words because he's still operating from the position of 'man in relationship makes decisions'? Idk that's what I'd assume, after having dated plenty of 'manly MASCULINE' men lol. Doesn't excuse his language at all, he just may see a man in a relationship consenting to polyamory as him "giving permission" to the woman. (Forgive the heteronormativity but I'd give my left arm if this august man was ever caught in public holding hands with a man lolol)

[@JulianSteve]

Well said Emily🙌🏾‼️

[@MahoganyPinkYT]

Thank you for even acknowledging my video. Always enjoy your commentary. ❤️

[@leebird9023]

Thank you for talking about how vulnerable August was when Jada started a relationship with him; that was the part of this situation that really had me fucked up.

[@SabrinaRina]

Still need to slap my ex with that definition. When I told him "you aren't polyamorous if you're sneaky and lie and neglect your partner to hook up with someone else" he tried to keep the gaslighting up saying I was judgmental and trying to box people's sexuality and that poly takes different forms and initiation. He's also a jackass that says no one is demi, they just want to say it takes more to cover all the times they hook up so easy.

[@mastershmiddy]

People miss the point with Will’s “blessing”-that particular aspect isn’t about sexual ownership, it’s the fact that sometimes it hurts your feelings when someone close to you hooks up with your ex. If I date a woman, we break up, and I fall for her sister, damn right I’m gonna want her blessing for the both of us, whatever my “autonomy” technically allows me

[@freedfromsociety_7950]

Monogamy is far from dead, as it's been the standard for centuries. Monogamy continues to be enforced by current societal culture and anything that is a counter to monogamy is immediately met with ridicule and negative criticism. What's happening now is a sort of relationship renaissance.

[@hellaSwankkyToo]

😂🤣

[@chrisb.5351]

People have never been monogamous. Its a pipe dream and why nearly everyone cheats or is cheated on. Humans want monogamy in theory but are terrible at staying monogamous

[@suoutubez19]

@@chrisb.5351 Hmm, are you speaking from personal experience? Sounds like you’ve been hurt by infidelity.

[@froyokid]

@@chrisb.5351 not everyone cheats. Stop ✋ get

[@chrisb.5351]

@@suoutubez19 I’ve been cheated on and I’ve cheated. Its really about opportunity. Obviously if no one wants you, its going to be alot harder to cheat. But for people with options, remaining faithful isn’t always easy. Just being realistic. In some recent reports nearly 50% of the people polled have admitted to having affairs in the past. Nothing im saying is new knowledge

[@frankieee1204]

You’re extremely compendious with the way you structure conversations on any topic you cover & it’s super satisfying to just listen to. You do be having me in the moment though like we’re actually having a face to face convo lol

[@samanthaphillip7425]

..."containing or presenting the essential facts of something in a comprehensive but concise way"

[@yadsewnde]

@@samanthaphillip7425 🤝

[@deliciousness74]

I love that Tee brought up “The false promise of black love” by Mahogany Pink. It’s a great video as well as this☺️

[@loveydovey9733]

This is an oof for me. I feel like that guy was taken advantage of and was considered a prime target because of his trauma; he was young and vulnerable. If we flipped the script and saw it was a 50-year-old man targeting after a young woman, we'd side-eye the shit out of that. Men are capable of being abused too and it doesn't sit right with me that he was taken into this "relationship" and then spat back out once he served his purpose.

[@3ortune]

Did you not sit see Jay Z and Beyoncé on the screen? Do you even know their agar gap? 😭 girl Jay Z is at least 15-20 years older than Beyoncé yet know one side eyes their relationship? You wanna know why? It’s cause they both have money it’s nothing to do with gender

[@loveydovey9733]

@@3ortune Which is why I pointed out the issue with most people overlooking Jada's actions. Thanks for paying attention.

[@Suuubi01]

@@3ortune how is one 15-20 years older than someone, is she multiple ages??😂 Are you illeterate? He's 10 yesrs older than her sweethearr

[@ve-ronnie-ca]

Sherry and carry aren't really polyamorous they are swingers which isn't the same thing

[@kel7470]

yeah i agree, i feel like they portrayed polyamory as something that it really isn’t

[@ceradaddygibson]

@@kel7470 I mean as someone who’s polyamorous and also swings, they do intersect sometimes. But there are distinctions.

[@ve-ronnie-ca]

The distinctions are important because theirs already this misconception that poly is just about sex which would be fine of it was bit it just simply isnt . Theres also a denial that u can be romantically attracted to more than 1 person and if u do then its not real love

[@peyton2995]

Please do a more in depth video on “The False Promise of Black Love” !! So happy I can across this channel, you are going places 💜 I was watching a year old video and you celebrated 20k?? Congrats on your growth and I can’t wait to see where you take this. Keep it up 💜💜

[@cosmicpesco]

As for the stereotypes surrounding polyamory-too late. There is a laundry list of them, including the misconception that all bisexual people are open to it. I get that a LOT

[@Hsjsjskekdocienskspsbebdvd]

literally

[@bhavya5692]

I've heard people say that bisexuality is originated in a person through childhood sexual trauma 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ , ITS WAS A DUDE

[@ShaeDaily]

The thing about polyamory that won’t work for a lot of people (whilst staying silent about your mans side chick or pressing women to accept that all men cheat) is that men want to be polyam but want monogamous partners. As a Sex Educator I have learned and seen a lot. The polyam spaces I am a part of are more evolved in that the men are similar to Will in not ‘requiring’ their wives to only be with them. They get called weak etc. but it is their lifestyle!

[@Sin_cerelySarah]

Yeah I think that’s my only problem with poly because usually the man wants all these women but want them to only be to him and not have that those women have other men as well

[@Ishtarmohammadi]

when I see people talking about polygamy or poliamory I feel like as if I were homeless and hearing people talk about having more than one house, nobody has any love interest in me and the few relationships I had happened because I had put a lot of effort on them. I can't imagine two poeple having interest in me AT THE SAME TIME. It's been 2 years since the last time I kissed someone. Polygamy or poliamory are not for my world

[@notalice...]

and both of those people who like you happen to have no problems with polyamory.... like HOW

[@Ishtarmohammadi]

@@notalice... Yes!! I literally need two people willing to have a realitonship with me - what will never happen at the same time, it barely happens - and both being ok with polyamory in order for me to seriusly thing about it . The only person that I have ever had a serious relationship with was a black man who hated the idea of having an open relationship but ended up cheating on me with a white girl from his work

[@angelofpurity1992]

They're not for my world, either. I'd rather just remain single.

[@suoutubez19]

and that’s completely fine! it’s not for me either. a lot of people go on and on about how “this generation” is not monogamous, but they’re basing their judgments off of personal experiences. they themselves have experienced or seen a lot of infidelity and it hurts them.

[@Ishtarmohammadi]

@@suoutubez19 I agree but I'm saying that for a lot of us polyamory is not a choice to be made, I literally can't choose it if I don't have more than 1 person wanting to be with me.

[@ladymongudhi2488]

Yes, I love wine, but can we talk about the urgency with which it needs to be addressed and learnt what she said about men needing to develop emotional intelligence not just because they're falling in love or because they've conceived daughters? Girl, you've dropped bars on bars on bars in this video. So valid, so true. I think this might be my favourite video from you.

[@Sarurah]

I disagree so strongly with the analysis of August getting "Will's blessing." It wasn't about ownership - if he was getting into a relationship with Will, he'd have gotten Jada's blessing. The idea is that it wasn't a hidden affair, regardless of the gender. That he wasn't disrespectful of the relationship and connection Will and Jada shared. This was not that he was getting permission, but proving that all were aware and comfortable.

[@bluegreen9799]

I agree with your disagreement. I don’t think it has anything to do with misogyny and ownership because if all genders were flipped we would commend the woman (august) for getting consent from the wife (will) to engage in a relationship with the husband (jada). So I can’t agree that that’s a ownership think I just think she had a personal bias against the verbiage but I agree with her other points.

[@AP-Design]

Yeah, I felt the same way. At the very least, I didn’t think there was enough mentioned for someone to be able to decide that it “must” have been about ownership.

[@TeeNoir]

I see it completely differently. If all he was trying to relay was that Will was aware of he and Jada's relationship, he could've said that plainly. His language indicates possession and it didn't sit right with me.

[@adafihj6439]

People constantly forget that Will Smith has a long term model girlfriend. Who is to say she didn't get permission from Jada

[@bluegreen9799]

@@TeeNoir do you think he should have not asked him at all? Your view point makes sense though “blessing” is a ownership type sounding word. I still feel like he should’ve asked.

[@xonae6547]

yeah some people def overlooked the weird behavior of Jada. I def think she saw him as some project that made her feel better and disposed of him when she was fully “healed.” Just based off the way they explained. Him saying he gave his all to her and she just referred to it as an entanglement. I also thought that it was weird for her to want to hook up with her son’s friend.. but anyway.

[@matlalajnr]

August saying that Will gave him permission to engage in an 'entanglement' with Jada as if Jada cannot make her own choices is similar to how men will leave you alone if you say you have a man than when you say NO, you do not want them.

[@oracleruby]

My mind read this in all caps! It needs to be louder.

[@aleafe5069]

Mhm....

[@Dee-jp6no]

My best friend has an open relationship. Her boyfriend knocked the other girl up(yes, apparently, the did use protection).Now there is a lot of drama, especially as he bonds with the other chick. It's just so messy & my best friend is crying almost every time I speak to her. I support my friend being open, but it's not for me. I can barely handle one person, two or more would be a nightmare & a constant panic. I also don't understand why you would want to be married if you're into multiple people? Is it soley just for the legal/benefits aspect? I guess to each their own. Whatever floats your boat.

[@neltins5308]

yeah, two or more is very chaotic & nightmarish, if you can't be happy & fulfilled with one person there is most likely something very wrong with you whether you're poly or not. That being said though, if you are happy & fulfilled with one partner, don't need anyone else in your open relationship or whatever but feel you are just poly deep down and want a third person for added enjoyment anyway... that's okay. The problem is that is literally a huge minority of people who do poly, there are always feelings involved, jealousy, people getting with others out of FOMO & all sort of bullshit inauthentic love reasons, all of these situation-ships end up as a complete disaster with very mentally & emotionally hurt people.

[@marleyandmitchg4204]

I didn’t interpret the comment about Will’s “blessing” as sexist, or ignoring Jada’s autonomy. Rather I feel like it was a conversation to make sure Will wasn’t having his boundaries crossed, because polyamory affects every involved party and communication about relationships is really important. I feel like that’s the major difference between something just being an open relationship and actual polyamory.

[@tarikavogel5973]

She started pouring the wine!! that's how you know it's going to be some good stuff😋

[@cadyg2531]

“Are y’all f-ing other people or not” made me snicker 😂🤣🤣

[@naomiemiezan3345]

I'm no professional, but the way you introduced the subject was sooo smooth *claps*

[@jongkittae]

listen when tee said i have great taste,,, i'm honoured dude tysm i needed to hear that

[@ThaBlackGothJawn]

Ive been Polyamorous since i was a teen and im 33 now. As someone who lives this life i just want to say thank you so much for this video💜🖤 you did a beautiful job and im so happy to hear someone speak about non-monogamy in such a non judgmental way🖤💜 thank you💜🖤

[@Bexdiggy]

OMG THANK YOU FOR THE PERFECTLY EXPLAINING HOW AGE GAPS CAN BE PROBLEMATIC! Sometimes the issue isn’t the age gap, but the age in itself, the stages of maturity in life.

[@melaniesinclair8380]

I can not wait until the media stops presenting swinging as polyamory and starts presenting polyamory in its most common fashion which is parallel polyamory. People always ask if I'm dating my boyfriend's girlfriend also or if we have threesomes and when I say we only are in contact in emergencies or to surprise our mutual partner with a gift they're confused. I refuse to date as a couple or date couples. It never feels genuine.

[@sweedy3333]

I think the audiences don't understand the differences. I don't recall the Conrad's in "You" saying they're polyamorous, but a lot of people were calling them that. I recognized them as swingers and that's how they acted

[@Sin_cerelySarah]

So can you date other men and is he okay with that?? Or is it only him that can have other women and you can’t have other men? Serious question.

[@melaniesinclair8380]

@@Sin_cerelySarah Ew no, lol. I date who I want.

[@oracleruby]

There was Red Table talk episode where they talked about polyamory and Willow Smith came out as polyamorous. In that episode Jada said she is not polyamorous. Thank you for bringing up about the power imbalance between Jada and August. Also the couple in You are swingers instead of polyam couple like most people are pointing out. The book More Than Two that is featured on the show You is heavy on couple privilege which in the polyam world also creates a power imbalance. I would recommend the book Smart Girl's Guide to Polyamory (not just for girls) and Poly Secure. Great overall vid!

[@middledog466]

im only partially through the video, but as a poly amorous person, i am constantly uncomfortably sexualized, along with my partners. many people assume we are trying to make moves on everyone, when in reality we have privacy, boundaries, communication, and impulse control. it reminds me of when i was a younger queer person and so many girls in my class assumed i liked them. it’s really fucked up, and only makes me want to keep it 100% private, despite me deeply valuing the ones i love and who my partners love and just wanting to express that normally

[@itsmeharperjacksons6633]

As a child growing up, I did see society praise Jada and Will relationship as the holy grail of what relationships (mainly black relationships) should be. So I get why everyone feel "scorn" by this revelation, because who don't want to see a successful relationship being praise for some many years and not wanting to emulate it? just to hear that this shit was barely keeping together

[@JasminLovesSloths]

I honestly don’t think August mentioning Wills blessing is him under-handing a woman’s autonomy. I think it was honestly to cover himself knowing if he didn’t state that the other person(Will Smith) was fully knowing and accepting, he’d be branded a home wrecker, dirty, thirsty and a villain. Considering the public loves Will. I feel like sometimes we reach to much on emotions to paint the narrative women are under attack and everyone subconscious denounces women , when simply put , it ain’t that deep sometimes. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@jvhunt6319]

I saw August saying he got Will's blessing as him saying he gave their relationship the respect to at least make it known his interest in Jada since they're open. Like a heads-up.

[@sasa2979]

I agree, both Will and Jada were close to August so it makes sense that August would want to go to Will and be transparent about the kind of relationship he wanted with Jada. Not in an ownership way but in a “respect your relationship” way.

[@HEIRLESSful]

@@queenii preach

[@celene_moon]

So happy to see that this video is sponsored! Plus the sponsor is so high quality.

[@McMoldys]

I’ve noticied that the internet has emasculated Will too! To them he “lost control” of his woman. I think a lot of that contributes to his public shaming and scrutiny, and maybe even his depression.

[@cooliopumpkin7045]

Not really related to the video, but I love that as I scroll through the comments, I haven't seen a single person trying to diss polyamory as a whole. Everyone that has had criticism has specified what they meant and expressed a respect for healthy ethical nonmanogamy. I love it here 🥰

[@michaelmoore2568]

I got a polyamory commerical before this video played *WHERE THE WOMAN IS TALKING ABOUT PAIN BEING APART OF THE PROCESS AND BEING COMPLETELY HEALTHY* HELP

[@lynn858]

"Things people feel the need to condemn, simply because they can't imagine doing it themselves" Yup. The most frequent reaction if it comes up that I'm polyamorous. They're fascinated, but the expression of the fascination is inevitably expressed as "I couldn't do that", "I know these people who tried it and it imploded!". The response is never, "What's that like?!", or "What does that mean to you?". Even, "Isn't that difficult/complicated?" would be better reactions. Because it most definitely is. Not necessarily in the ways a person who's wired for monogamy would imagine, but yes. I said "I am polyamorous", not "You should try polyamory".

[@camillelemmens1745]

The funny thing is: polyamory is difficult, but so is monogamy. The idea is that if one decides to be sexually exclusive, one is freed from the existence of options. So monogamy is the easier choice. Yet the truth is that staying monogamous means committing to that choice every day, even when faced with the truth that relationships between people change and one can be attracted to / in love with / interested in /... different people in different ways. And research shows that more than half of all monogamous people have difficulty with that...

[@sarahbarabe8470]

I just don't feel that you can respect yourself and your partner and be poly at the same time. I choose to be committed to the same person every day because I honor the weight behind the decision that I chose them and I honor myself in continuing to abide by my own rules. Adding other people into the relationship makes it look like my partner isn't good enough, I don't want to send that message. I respect that poly people have relationships with consent but how healthy can a person really be and fully consent to their partner wanting something else? I once met a poly couple where the guy literally did tell me that you need to accept that you aren't good enough and its okay for your partner to want something other than you. (I know its anecdotal evidence and can't be generalized) but goddamn, how DEGRADING! Monogamy is only hard for people because anything good is hard. Anything that takes self control and discipline is hard.

[@camillelemmens1745]

@@sarahbarabe8470 It isn't really up to you to define for someone else what it means to respect yourself. Like you said: you honour yourself by abiding by your own rules. You do not get to moralize yours and then use them to judge others who choose different rules for themselves. I have no problem with monogamy; it works for plently of people. I have a problem with our culture's insistance that it is the only right way to shape a relationship and more so that it is considered a degradation/denial of your love to even want to think/discuss what that looks like and why it looks like that. I do not do a lot in my life without thinking and debating it, so why should a go for a default setting that can never be questionned for something as important as a (hopefully life long) relationship.

[@lynn858]

​@@camillelemmens1745 Well said!

[@waterwraith1189]

​@@sarahbarabe8470 Don't get a partner that "wants something else?" They clearly aren't ready for a committed relationship with you. Is your relationship closed or open? You need to set those boundaries and communicate. Poly doesn't equal open. Also, not every poly relationship is sexual, some are romantic or platonic.

[@lismartin8060]

The fact is Will has been fooling around with other people for years and he gets no stigma to his name like Jada. Every year a different woman goes on vacation with Will and not one peep is said.

[@yeet648]

TBH poly and swinging and just any form of open relationship isn't for me; but that doesn't mean it's unhealthy or wrong. When I first heard about these things when I was much younger I disliked them because the concept of them threatened my low self esteem self. I was worried that I would be expected to do those things or that I would be seen as being unfair to my partner for not letting them explore and that I would never truly be special. That just isn't the reality though and I've realized that as I've grown. Both monogamy and polyamory are healthy and to be respected. Poly people aren't "cheating" or "selfish" and monogamous people aren't "trapping" their partner or being "selfish" either. As everything is it's a person to person basis. I'm not in the wrong for wanting traditional monogamy and other people aren't in the wrong for not wanting it. As long as it's healthy and includes consenting adults who enjoy it who cares.

[@RumChocolates]

I remember ENTANGLEMENT more than anything else about that situation.

[@alyssapinon9670]

Oh god if I hear that word one more time 😂

[@middledog466]

it is very important to note that polyamory is a huge umbrella term; the rules and boundaries are set specifically between the people dating or seeing each other. there is literally no way of appropriately assuming the boundaries of others, it really is a direct conversation to be had. this is really crucial, because i see these comments making assumption after assumption. you cannot know unless it is divulged. there are people with primary partners, such as open marriages. there are people who have romantic relationships, but only one sexual one. there are people with only one romantic relationship, but multiple sexual ones. sometimes poly people only date if their other partners want to date that person too. boundaries boundaries boundaries.

[@nostop8069]

I’ve been thinking about the terms of black love for a while now but I’ve been starting to see the nature of it as something forced upon black women and only encouraged for black men in a heteronormative sense, and I take issue with that. Love that you are talking about this and in reference to polyamory/monogamy.

[@modestferan6203]

I love Tee so much, she's so well-spoken and articulate. Also the way she displays her impartiality. I aspire to be like you with my speech. 😭❤️

[@yadsewnde]

Literally. A whole role model lol

[@xletix69]

ahhh this video was so great. I'm also just starting to get to know polyamory better and i've already seen polyamory get portrayed in such a bad light by so many people (like being compared to cheating and lack of self control when it's actually the exact opposite) so i was a bit worried you'd do something similar but the amount of respect you had while talking about it, made me so happy. I am currently in a monogamous relationship and my partner has only ever had one crush, which is me (ik, it sounds impossible but this is our first relationship and if you knew him, you'd think he's aromantic, so he's just not that kind of guy who has a lot of crushes). I on the other hand, am the complete opposite. I can't even count how many crushes i've had in my life. There were times where I was interested in 5 people at the same time (mind you, "interested" LITERALLY only means interested, like sometimes i never even talked to these people). Also, I am pansexual so as long as the personality was right, i had a crush on them, no matter what gender. These crushes never turned into relationships until i met my current partner for 3 years. I always thought from movies and social media that "the moment you really love someone, you can't love anybody else" or "if you love someone else it isn't true love" and these phrases really fucked me up. If I used to have multiple crushes before my relationship, why would that stop once i got into a relationship, right? Somehow, I thought it was that way and i cried so much because i felt like i was cheating for only thinking about how great someone else was and getting butterflies in my stomach when i saw someone other than my boyfriend. Then, at one point I discovered this whole polyamory concept and I immediately talked with my boyfriend about how I've always had a lot of crushes and i still do and he (being the emotionally mature person he is) completely accepted it and was grateful for me being so honest. He is in fact, still monogamous (which is totally okay, everybody is different) so that means he would not be okay with me dating another person. I've chosen to stay in this relationship because i love him so much and I would never want to break his heart so we just compromised that I would tell him who I had crushes on (if i am okay with telling it) but not actually act on those feelings/flirt with said people. And it's actually been working just fine. I feel so much better knowing that I don't have to hide anything and that my love for other people DOES NOT take away from my love for my boyfriend, in fact, being honest and talking about our feelings has made our relationship even stronger. I HATE that people act like everyone has a limited amount of romantic/sexual love and its only enough for one person. Sure, maybe there are people like this, but i think a lot of people just aren't like this. You can love multiple people just as much as a monogamous person loves their one partner. What sounds exhausting to some, feels just right for others and the opposite sounds exhausting to them.

[@sammysweet4154]

Completely unrelated but I'm really loving the look today. Like the whole color palette is really giving

[@MsKassandraKotaku]

Let me just say, you are the type of human I would have loved to be friends with back in university where my friends and I would drink wine and discuss all sorts of things even if we didn't agree. Of course you would have been way more articulate than our wine drinking asses. Thanks for bringing me back to that time of my life. I love hearing your views.

[@justsomecatwithoutamustach2630]

"we should all aim to be rational enough to not take it upon ourselves to try and discipline others because we feel excluded from Their fairytale" sooo well said 👏

[@BrandedByLola]

I’m polyamorous and a poly educator, and I definitely agree that these shows exploit if not over exaggerate polyamorous stereotypes 😩🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jamiea.m.3037]

"There's a certain peace of mind that comes from seeing the things we want or the things we were taught to believe we should want already successfully achieved. Like there's a certain ease that comes from seeing the blueprint and not having to be the pioneer of your own story..." This jumped out at me so much. I sincerely appreciate your thoughtful and nuanced takes.

[@laexploradoraaaXD]

Love your videos and calling it an enterprise is perfect and very true for other couples (looking at Bey and J and their albums post elevator but also Gabrielle Union and her book). Celebrities transitioning to influencing kind of feels natural like celebrities were always influencers that's why they got the brand deals but now that influencing is well, more accessible, they have to market themselves differently, so now they're trying to be relatable in different ways.

[@ahkilissa]

🥺your look, is everything.

[@iReaSc]

With the lens that Shery and Cary were portrayed through, “You” is set through Joes perspective. So it’s natural that this otherwise normal couple is portrayed as odd.

[@VeronicAM313]

I'm glad you're bringing this up. As someone who is interested in participating in non-monoagmy, my fear is getting with someone who won't practice silence and will out my relationship as being open. I wish she would have talked about how fucked up it was that she was in a relationship with someone who had a difference life experience than her. She's got kids, a husband and a career whereas he was just starting and shit kept piling on him. And then to say he was broken? I'm happy you called that out because it felt as if she was trying to deflect and there's a difference between taking responsibility and deflecting what the fuck happened.

[@aysyaw6038]

I've thought about a poly or open relationship as well and the thought of how hard it would be for men to check their egos or even just not letting their emotions get the best of them and spilling all the beans.

[@VeronicAM313]

@@aysyaw6038 That's my fear as well as trying to be someone's primary partner. I've seen too many people on the dating apps looking for a secondary and the majority are coupled and I don't want that. There's more of a chance of them backing their primary partner's feelings over mine.

[@diaryprincess]

for me personally, I felt some type of way about the entanglement but I couldn’t pinpoint what it was exactly. the smiths hold a special place in my heart, specifically Will because I grew up with them. no, I didn’t really follow their real lives (and obvs don’t know them in the slightest) but they all created art that will resonate with me forever. i’m only 24 so I only remember so much, but I was excited when I got to see baby Jaden and Willow do their thing. their music, their movies, their personalities were all so lovable and that fantasy was there for longer than I realized. when things got messy for that family, I couldn’t fully get out of that bias until I realized that a lot of people were shifting blame where it didn’t belong. I always encourage people to look at things from ALL sides, not just one; you’ll gain a better understanding and avoid speaking solely on bias (which is always a no-no when it comes to any reliable source of information). that’s also why I like this channel so much because Tee does her best to practice this 👏🏼

[@immateriaIboy]

GOT THE NOTIFFF 🥰 also not me getting an ad about polygamy and polyamory before this 😭

[@ava.catherine]

I’m a simple girl, when tee posts I click 😊💕

[@lunawolfheart336]

I've been polyamorous for as long as I can remember. As a kid when I thought about romance in my fantasies I always had multiple people. Growing up Mormon tho made me feel like there was something wrong with me but later in life I learned it was normal. It's just still anoying people get mad at me for being this way.

[@SomeHowSomeOne]

My thoughts exactly when the Oscar incident happened and all the men at work were talking about how Jada ruined Will… The level of anger and disgust they had towards Jada was scary.

[@omoid1749]

The way you approached this topic speaks to a lot of growth outchere. Able to empathize without diminishing the ugly reality of a deep-seated (societal) issue? Tee I'm so proud of you~~~ Then again you always do that. New level unlocked I guess🥺❤💅

[@slowdance5736]

I wish I could like this video more than once. The way you disseminate info is so graceful and warm, yet strong and from the chest.

[@HasabeMizurukara]

I'm white and practice polyam and have for years. I agree that sadly there is a lot of stigma around this, especially if you happen to be a woman.

[@indigothecat]

You taught me a new concept! (New to me anyways.) Selective Vulnerability, which sounds basically like answering the "What's your biggest mistake/weakness?" interview question, but on public steroids. A common buzz-phrase I think is, "I'm learning and growing."

[@hellaSwankkyToo]

oh thank god. as someone who is polyamorous i always get nervous when folks who aren't start discussing it. should've known i didn't have anything to worry about from this channel but...ya just never know! 💁🏾‍♀ excellent video. per usual. thank you! 🖤✊🏾

[@inerkathe]

Literally my favorite channel on KZbin. Genius.

[@justinrivera1618]

If I was friends with a couple and me and a member of said couple are in the midst of establishing a different relationship, I think I would want to know if everyone involved were comfortable. Otherwise, things would get really weird for the three of us

[@taylornicolehartman]

Tee, can we get a video about power imbalances and age gap relationships?? I feel like that could be a powerful conversation... an excellent upload

[@EvonneLindiwe]

What upsets me is August is a young broken man.. JADA is a PREDATOR. That’s what I cannot abide with. She heals by leaving others broken.

[@tamarareid6170]

I love the term selective vulnerability that is basically what SO MANY early KZbinrs have been doing, it's their bread and butter still to this day where their content type is basically whatever they feel like showing from their life

[@MainelyMandy]

This is a great video! The "ownership" issue comes up a lot in polyamorous spaces and discussions. In recent years, hierarchy has become increasingly unpopular but that has lead to a lot of "sneaky-archy" (hierarchy just by a different name) where the starting couple still expects a certain amount of entitlement and ownership to each other (but especially the man of the woman when the couple is straight). I think you explained really well how women's sexuality in particular tends to be safe guarded and seen as kind of a commodity. Will Smith has to give his permission to allow someone else access to his wife because her owning her own sexuality is unthinkable to some. And that I think is very reflective of a lot of heteronormative and monogamous-centric thinking. Plenty of polyam folks have a hard time unlearning this, which is why we see so many couples "looking for their third" or have OPP agreements (one penis policies). As a nonmonogamous youtuber, I really appreciate this video and talk so much. Thank you again!

[@HopeeInk]

Another masterpiece! The intellectual gymnastics Tae need to make yo give us these well informed, well balanced and well structured videos is insane. Our girl is truly smart, I admire her a lot in that sense to have the intellectual and emotional intelligence to put out high quality videos like this.

[@tacrewgirl]

I just looked at the Conrads as strange birds. I wasn't even thinking about their polyamorous relationships.