If I use minwax's polyurethane water-based top coat instead of the polycrylic, will it's yellow my white chalk painted furniture?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
It should not IF IF IF you prep correctly.
@smcdaniel38942 жыл бұрын
Thank you very informative video. One question, do you sand between coats of polycrylic?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
Yes I do. I did another tutorial on how to sand in-between coats.
@leeannmartin36152 жыл бұрын
I'm working on an oak china cabinet and primed with zinnsser bin with shellac (in a can with red printing). After watching videos I'm worried about top coating, but it's being put in my dining area and I'd like to have a durable finish on it. Do you think that it'll yellow being that I used the zinnsser bin with shellac? I just found your videos and you have so much great advice. Thank you so much!
@crabbiecakes56632 жыл бұрын
I'm using that primer over my oak cabinets. Needs 2 coats and then I use the latex white paint. So far so good.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
You should be okay. As long as the primer has Shellac you should be good.
@wallflower2253 жыл бұрын
Will the Zinsser 123 primer prevent tannins from coming through?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
If it has Shellac in it yes it will. I prefer just using straight Shellac.
@rr86412 жыл бұрын
Madeline, great video, thank you for sharing your expertise. I’ve redone my stairs, painting the risers and spindles white. Used two coats of oil based primer and two coats of acrylic latex. It has cured for 30 days. I want to put two coats of General Finishes High Performance water based top coat on them. Do you think the oil based primer will prevent the tannin bleeding?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
Was the oil based primer have Shellac added? That's the only way to truly know if the wood tannins will be blocked. You need the Shellac.
@alishafreehauf4082 жыл бұрын
Would you still do the shellac step if your putting vinyl graphics on the wood?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
I would apply the shellac first then your vinyl graphics.
@lilianvu32593 жыл бұрын
I'm planning to put polycrylic over bare wood. Would I still need to use clear Shellac before the top coat?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
No. You don't need to put on Shellac before the Polycrylic.
@candlewatt2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video with good info. Thanks! So, is it the polycrylic that will bring up the tannins? I ask because I painted some red oak stair railings white. I did a scuff sand, used UMA Xim bonder/primer, then a coat of General Finish primer/sealer on top of that. Next, I painted it white with Behr Scuff Defense Ultra. After a week, no bleed through. This is my experience using the primers. But, I do want to add a topcoat, such as polycrylic. Will the polycrylic force the tannins up?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there is no way to 100% know if the wood tannins will be pulled up if you didn't block with a shellac based primer. A regular primer usually doesn't contain shellac unless stated so on the can. So you do risk wood tannins being pulled through to the surface OR you could get lucky and they won't get pulled through.
@frankj.sancheziii4694 Жыл бұрын
Hello Bethany, thank you for making this video. It brought to my attention what could happen if I don't properly prep. I'm new to the painting / staining world & I have a project coming up where I'm going to be making an indoor gate. I'm going to be staining my project, some boards will be stained & others won't. The process that I'm going to be going through is sanding all boards then applying pre stain wood conditioner then stain, only for the boards receiving stain (then a few coats of polycrylic), for the boards not receiving stain they will only have a few coats of polycrylic. Where would I apply the shellac & how many coats? The wood I'll be using is a whitewood from Lowe's. I'd like to say thank you in advance for any help that you can pass my way & I am a new subscriber to your channel & I'm looking forward to your future videos. Thank you again for your time & have a great day Bethany.
@anju37303 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a wonderful video. I really hope you see this. I’m working on stainway, the steps stain and the side of the stairs white. I did sand and prime. But it turned yellow. Should I sand it and then put shellac on the sides? Should I put shellac on the steps as well. I’m doing this for the first time.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
No shellac needed on the stained part of your steps. I would, though, apply a heavier duty topcoat over the stained portion of your stained steps like an oil based poly. They will get a lot of traffic compared to the painted white sides and although Polycrylic is durable you’re going to need something stronger for the actual steps. The sides of your steps that you were painting white that turned yellow, yes lightly hand sand (just to rough up the surface a bit), shellac (2 coats, don’t worry it dries super fast), repaint and then apply Polycrylic again. I hope that helps.
@anju37303 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for a quick response. Which would be the heavy duty too coat for the stained stairs? And which grit sand paper should I use to lightly sand the sides of the stairs that turned yelllow?
@gaylelambert93372 жыл бұрын
I’m just finishing an oak China cabinet with linen white chalk paint followed by poly acrylic. I now understand why I have a little yellowing going on. Any other Projects that I do will get properly prepped next time around. I love your videos as they’re so helpful. Keep them coming!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
I love hearing my videos are being helpful! Thank you for leaving such a nice comment. I hope your china cabinet project ended up being successful.
@NicoleShare5 ай бұрын
I know this is an old video, so I hope you will still get comments and questions. I used a light blue/greenish chalk paint, and when I used the Minwax polyacrylic top coat, I got yellow streaks very quickly, before it was dry. Do I have to completely sand all of my paint before I shellac. and start from scratch? Or can I sand off the yellowing, shellac and redo the top coat? This is my first tester piece and did not shellac, only , cleaned, sanded, cleaned and used chalk paint.
@brits62513 жыл бұрын
Can you fix it after the fact without sanding and repainting again? Mine was pine and it's super yellow
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
No you can't unfortunately. If you want to fix it after you painted and then used a topcoat....apply shellac (2 coats), then repaint, then reapply your topcoat.
@brits62513 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 could another solution be using chalkboard paint to avoid having to sand?
@tristinbaker47112 жыл бұрын
I'm late to the game here but I have a question. I purchased a console table that in my opinion has an inadequate top coat. It is white. Since it has already been top coated, if I apply a couple additional coats of polycrylic do I have to worry about yellowing? Also is it even ok to add poly to an already finished piece?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
Yes you will have to worry about yellowing because you don't know how they prepped this table before they painted it. Also applying a new poly topcoat on top of an existing topcoat it may not adhere, it may fish eye, it might not be compatible. Water based vs. oil based.
@tristinbaker47112 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 thanks so much for your reply. I took a chance and did it and got lucky. It stayed perfectly white except for one spot that showed the wood grain has some faint yellowing on the grain that shows though. I'm hoping it doesn't worsen too much over time. I will definitely follow you advice for future projects 🙂
@Sandra-gz2hq3 жыл бұрын
Can you use chalk paint over shellac ? I used general finished high performance top coat I loved it except it yellowed over time. Any advice would help! Thanks
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Yes you can apply chalk paint over Shellac. I do it all the time. Usually the reason your topcoat yellowed is because of the original finish under the paint wasn't properly prepped. I use GF High Performance Flat (water based) and it doesn't yellow.
@paul25592 ай бұрын
I wish I had watched this video last week. I just used molds, paint inlays, painted, and antiqued a table, and was so proud of it, only to have it yellow overnight. I wanted to cry because I was so mad at Minwax. Thank you for this video. I know what I did wrong now. Those chalk paint companies should not be allowed to advertise their paints as not needing primer or prep.
@intansafura67083 жыл бұрын
Im already paint my dresser with oil based paint,can u suggest any top coat to prevent it from it turn yellow?
@Snobstation3 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this. I am out to buy Polycrylic tomorrow. I will pick up some Shellac too :)
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Smart lady!!! I hope your project turns out well!
@Snobstation3 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 None of the hardware stores in town had any Shellac based primer in stock. I ended up buying Kilz Restoration (used to be Kilz Max) instead as it says it has oil and shellac based performance. Will this be okay to use?
@intansafura67083 жыл бұрын
My furniture was used oil based white paint,should i sand off first the surface before repaint it with polycrylic?
@paigez76802 жыл бұрын
Will it yellow if you put a glaze on it?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
If you have prepped correctly it should not.
@ericastavroules51334 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the videos. I have always wanted to get into painting and refinishing furniture. Your videos are very helpful.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Erica Stavroules Hi there! I love hearing that my videos are being helpful 😊 You should try refinishing a piece of furniture. Start small. A small end table, a plant stand, something. It’s so therapeutic for me!
@karinm67863 жыл бұрын
I just completed brass lamps using this product over Old White Chalk Paint (which is water based). I applied 2 coats of the Polycrylic and it definitely yellowed the finished product., immediately. Please explain.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Did you seal the brass lamps before painting?
@mamasaenzcreationsbretinas81363 жыл бұрын
Is this ok to use on outside wood
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
I would use another topcoat for furniture outside. Get a topcoat with a UV protection specifically formulated for the outside elements.
@rickmelcher68452 жыл бұрын
You have given THE best knowledge I’ve found on YT regarding this issue of “yellowing”. Thanks! I use my Cricut to make stencils for outside signs. I’ve found using the Kilz2 (water-based) is a great all purpose primer & sealer. Then I seal with Polycrylic (spray). Kilz2 is very economical at about $20/gallon. Might try it , but know it is white in color so you may need an extra coat of paint of going with dark colors. Thanks 🙏
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
Glad you found my video helpful. I find there's so much confusion regarding yellowing on furniture and people blame polycrylic. It's all about the prep.
@stephanietheoret37764 жыл бұрын
I am going to do my first time ever refinish project. It is an Oak bedroom set for a kids room. Should I shellac it or is any primer ok? And then is there a particular type of paint, I read Interior Latex Semi-Gloss? It will be a done in dark grey. I am also leaning towards the Polycrylic Spray since I saw one of your videos mentioned preferably using the Gel Topcoat on oil based paint and water based on water? Also, thank you for your videos they have been very informative
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay in responding. I've been moving. When it comes to either shellac or primer personally I like using shellac. The reason is because shellac has never failed me with blocking wood tannins. Primer has failed me a few times. I do apply two coats of the shellac. Yes use a water based topcoat over latex paint, not the Gel Topcoat.
@LynShe73 жыл бұрын
Can I only use polycrylic over chalk paint or can it be used with other types of paint? I am going to paint a dresser white but unsure of the best kind of paint for the project.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
I have used water based polycrylic over just latex paint. No issues. If you use Polycrylic over white paint please prep correctly BEFORE you paint. I would apply two coats of Shellac BEFORE you paint to block wood tannins and stains.
@webherring2 жыл бұрын
Will the shellac yellow?
@GX_56433 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this video! I make handlettered wood signs and had my white lettering (on a dark stained board) yellow overnight after I put krylon spray poly on it that specifically said “non yellowing.” I’m going to redo and shellac over my stain before I put my lettering on and see if that helps!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
I'm curious did the Shellac help with the yellowing?
@kms5306 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your challenge with yellowing over white paint. Now I have a good idea of how to repair and avoid in the future.
@nellielee29153 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining and sharing how to prevent the yellowing, because I'm just learning how to make porch signs. I had just treated the knots on my 3 boards with shellac but I didn't cover the entire boards and then I painted them and let them dry and I realize I bought a can of Polycrylic and didn't remember what it was for, and when to use it, so I searched on KZbin and came across your video, you really helped me, so since I was planning on do double sided signs, I will use the Polycrylic on the side that's painted already, and cover the other sides with shellac before painting.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Yes the yellowing can be frustrating especially if you aren't aware of wood tannins coming to the surface after you have painted. Shellac is a life saver and a must have especially over wood knots. I'm so glad this video helped you. I love porch signs! I see them all over my neighborhood.
@tammiwood3937 Жыл бұрын
I had this problem…polyacrylic. I prepped with krudcutter, sanding and primed with kilz. Ugh next day…random bleed thru. I have been going crazy. This is SO helpful. What is the nylon boot for the brush? I’m going to watch ALL your videos now. I subscribe…I like your teaching style. Congrats on 19.9 subscribers when I’m watching this on 01/20/23!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tammi! I’m so happy this video helped you figure out the bleed thru issue. I’ve been there. So frustrating! I place the nylon booty over the 2” foam brush because it helps pop any air bubbles while applying the Polycrylic. It ensures I get a smooth application. Thank you for subscribing to my channel! I’m almost at 20k! Whoo hoo!
@tammiwood3937 Жыл бұрын
Where do I purchase a nylon booty…it that the actual name of it
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 Жыл бұрын
I order mine off Amazon. Here's the link: amzn.to/3Xx9QLw
@donc52814 жыл бұрын
Hi ma’am, I have wood table that had a dark brown stain. I sanded, cleaned with acetone, sanded again, cleansed with tsp. After letting it dry I rolled on 2 or 3 coats of zinsser blocking primer and days later 3 or 4 coats of oil based satin paint. It’s been about a month now and no yellowing but I have no top coat. So my question is.... Can I apply the polycrylic or shellac and apply a water base white paint and then polycrylic?
@911HerbalinfoGoneRaw4 жыл бұрын
I purchased the Triple Thick Polyurethane product to seal a tumbler I was working on. An epoxy alternative but unfortunately, the project yellowed after a few days and now I’m wondering if this would still apply to tumblers as well? Considering this information was specifically for wood. I sanded down the areas, and some of the yellow came off. But there are still some yellowing. So a part of me feels like I have to start over. Either way, this was a good start to understanding what happened to my project. Thanks!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Oh that stinks! From what I know oil based poly yellows or ambers a bit no matter what. Some more than others. When I apply oil based poly over my stains the ambering doesn't really matter much because it won't be seen. So your tumbler is made of wood? Maybe try the water based Polycrylic instead.
@arl1946 Жыл бұрын
I had a very dark twin bed frame that I primed with Valspar bonding primer then pained with Valspar cabinet white paint. I wanted to add a top coat for a bit of a glossy finish and I bought polycrylic. I’ve never used this before so I’m a little scared. Do you think it’s a wise idea to use the polycrylic?
@lindseywalters25274 жыл бұрын
You're videos are very helpful! What's the difference between primer and shellac, and why do you prefer shellac?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Lindsey Walters I’m so glad you are finding my videos helpful! I have found Shellac has never failed me when it comes to blocking tannins and bleed thru. I do apply two coats of shellac. Primer has been hit and miss with blocking tannins. That’s why I prefer shellac.
@WildBison744 жыл бұрын
Do you need the shellac over water based stained surface? We had some bare wood (cedar I think) and we stained it with minwax color wash in white and now we are getting ready to seal it with polycrylic. Will it yellow or pull through the tannis as it does over paint?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why you are using a water based sealer (Polycrylic) over the minwax, which is oil based?
@scotishcovenanters2 жыл бұрын
Is the bin zinsser clear shellac MATTE?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
It's got a little sheen to it so I would say no.
@jenniferbarboza65893 жыл бұрын
I have a project I am working on that I stained first then applied white chalk paint and it looked awesome in my opinion. Well my husband applied polycrylic and yep it yellowed and I am feeling defeated. I am worried that the rest of the pieces that will go with it will do the same thing. Since the other pieces have not been received their coat of polycrylic yet can I apply two coats of the shellac or prime over the current chalk paint and start the process over. I was distressing it to the color stain and now unsure what to use.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you are frustrated. I've been there with the yellowing. You can apply the Shellac over the paint and then repaint and THEN apply the Polycrylic. I know it's a lot of work but it will be worth it.
@crystalcutch5569 Жыл бұрын
What can be used on reclaimed cypress? We made a coffee table & it's so beautiful with absolutely nothing on it, but I know it needs to be protected somehow. I put a polycrylic matte finish on it after sanding with 120g & it darkened it up way too much. Sanding it back & starting over...help.
@lindseywalters25274 жыл бұрын
Can you apply shellac or primer with a sprayer or a foam brush?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Lindsey Walters I don’t use a sprayer with any of my products. I’m sure other people use a sprayer when it comes to primer. I apply the shellac with a cheap chip brush. I usually apply primer with my Cling On Brush.
@babycakes84343 жыл бұрын
Very helpfull and it makes sense. I was lost what to use on top of my paint. I painted 2 coats of primer, and 3 coats of off white latex. I don't want to risk ruining it so I will do the wax on top. I can see that your secret weapon is shellac. Great tip. Thank you.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking the time to write a comment. Topcoats are usually the toughest parts of most projects. What product to use and how to apply it are big questions. Yes shellac is definitely my weapon when it comes prepping pieces of furniture.
@dianenoto1573 жыл бұрын
can i top coat with shellac on white chalk paint ?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
No. It will yellow on top of your white paint.
@taylorsewell82914 жыл бұрын
I applied the shellac on top of my white chalk paint then repainted the white chalk. I used a water based top coat to finish and it still yellowed. What do you recommend I do??
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Geez that's frusturating! Okay under your white chalk paint how did you prep your piece? What type of wood is under the paint?
@taylorsewell82914 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 I am not sure of the wood. The dining set is over 50 years old. I sanded the varnish off and used liquid sandpaper (two coats) before applying the chalk paint. When I seen the yellowing start after 3 coats of white chalk paint, I applied the shellac sealer (one coat). Painted the white chalk paint over top. Went to use the General finish satin top coat and it was yellow instantly. I sanded it. Then reapplied another coat of white chalk paint and used the krylon wax chalk paint sealer. No yellowing BUT afraid ever little stain will attach and I will have to redo this over and over again. PLEASE HELP!
@bgahan4884 жыл бұрын
@@taylorsewell8291 how did it go. I think mine are starting to yellow.
@hoppyd64303 жыл бұрын
Yes I sand then wipe. Then use Zinsser shellac then kilz 2 water base then Behr chalk paint. Then used the Minwax water based polycrylic clear stain then it cracks? What am I doing wrong? How can I fix this? Could it be to hot outside?
@DanaConquersBoutique3 жыл бұрын
I just painted my dressers with the help of this video and they turned out absolutely beautiful! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with everyone ♥️
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome! I love hearing DIY success stories! Thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment :)
@amyjohnson92402 жыл бұрын
Cant believe I havent seen this video until now, I have always had an issue with this. My question if anyone can answer, I have this same issue with polyurithane, will this shallac before paint trick work for that too?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
I would not use an oil based polyurethane over paint. It will most likely yellow the paint. Anything oil based will.
@debby421624 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos and are very helpful. One question, do I need to sand after applying shellac?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear that they are being helpful. To answer your question...no you don't need to sand after you shellac. (let me add this...one time I applied Shellac too heavily, had too much on my brush and it left a drip mark. I didn't see the drip mark until after it dried. I did have to sand down that drip mark with 150 grit sand paper. Easy fix but I thought I would share).
@XtinaEstrada233 жыл бұрын
I'm painting my kitchen cabinets that were previously stained and looked to be shellaced. So far they are sanded, cleaned off with rubbing alcohol, and primed. Next step is paint and seal. Should I shellac between?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Depends on what color you are painting your cabinets AND what type of topcoat you will be applying.
@devdawg223 жыл бұрын
Litteraly just got done spraying some polycrilic with my new hvlp. I was so nervous to spray but it ended up being great. Looks professional, was super fast and easy. Every time I see people talking about this yellowing it is absolutely a tannin problem. I always seal with a primer first.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Yesssssss! Thank you for saying this.....it's a tannin problem! What brand of hvlp do you have? I ask because I think I might start spraying my topcoat. Just curious. I'm happy to hear the polycrylic works well in a sprayer.
@klubstompers3 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 Minwax sells polycrylic in a spray can too.
@devdawg222 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 I know it's been a year but I literally just saw you asked me this lol. I actually got a cheap $40 eclectic hplv sprayer on Amazon and it's been great. Still using it.
@kika08284 жыл бұрын
I already painted my mdf shelve with regular white paint can I still add the shellac then repaint and lastly the polyacrylic
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Yes you can! Do what you just said above and you will be okay.
@kylemulry94574 жыл бұрын
Just curious. Would you get the same affect if you apply polycrylic first instead of shellac, then white paint, then the topcoat of polycrylic?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Are you asking if Polycrylic will block tannins? If so the answer is no.
@Ourvanlifetails3 жыл бұрын
Hi Madeline. So happy I found your channel. I'm painting a dresser / changing table for a friend. I primed with Zinsser BIN. I will be applying Behr chalk paint in a white. My question is, will a WATER BASED Polyurethane yellow? Only asking because that is something I purchased already and want to know if I need to make another trip to HD for the Polycrylic. Thanks for your helpful channel!!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Hi there! It all depends on your prepping. Yellowing happens because of wood tannins coming to the surface after your topcoat gets applied. I like using Shellac to seal wood tannins. I usually apply two coats, then paint, then my topcoat. If your Zinsser BIN doesn't have shellac in it (I believe they carry a version that does) then you may have yellowing.
@Dizvillager4 жыл бұрын
Can shellac just be the final top coat sealer? Why or why not?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Yes you can use Shellac as a sealer. I wouldn't seal painted pieces with it because it may amber or yellow. Shellac is best used as a sealer over bare wood or stained wood. I personally like to seal my stained pieces with a poly but that's just me.
@Dizvillager4 жыл бұрын
You mean it will yellow over paint unless you use poly over it? That’s the steps in your video.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Vicki Fell Shellac is used to block bleed thru and wood tannins from coming to the surface. I would NOT advise using it as a topcoat over paint. It’s fine to use it under paint. Hope that makes sense.
@alannahparrett99283 жыл бұрын
Hi! Hoping you see this. I painted and sealed my wood piece with poly and it turned yellow quickly after. I bought shellac after seeing this video. Can I just put the two coats of shellac on (without sanding it) right over my painted and sealed piece?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Yes you should be able to just apply the Shellac (2 coats), repaint and then reseal.
@philindeblanc2 жыл бұрын
What if you just want a bare natural finish thats matte/flat for White Oak, and you dont want color or paint? What process works for that to not yellow?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
I would use all water based products.
@samanthamorillo55012 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with priming before painting, especially light colored paint! Here's a question I have for you. I recently restored a 100 year old piece that a client wanted painted and distressed. I used an off white paint made by The Chippy Barn (not cheap). I always read to distress after you paint, which I did. However, once I applied the polycyrlic crystal clear ultra flat, it immediately started to yellow. I tried another area that was not distressed and no yellow. My conclusion is that once the polycyrlic touched the areas that were distressed (exposed wood) it caused bleeding or tannins to surface. My question is, do you think I should distress after I apply the polycyrlic topcoat instead distressing after painting? I really don't want to have to redo the entire piece. What are your thoughts?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
Great question! So normally I'll use clear wax to my distressed pieces for this very reason. I normally sand and stain my furniture tops, usually the drawer fronts too. I use oil based poly for the topcoat on those areas. On the shell of the piece of furniture I usually wax. If I do use a water based poly on the shell I usually distress after I paint and BEFORE I apply polycrylic. I really haven't had an issue with yellowing in distressed areas but I could see how yellowing would happen if polycrylic is applied after it's freshly distressed and the wood tannins get exposes again. I guess it depends on the wood, how much wood is exposed after distressing, etc. I would do as you suggest, distress AFTER you apply polycrylic.
@samanthamorillo55012 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 That's what I did and it worked; repainted then applied polycyrlic and distressed after the polycyrlic. I even tried the clear wax but no avail. Distressing last worked! Thanks for you feedback. Btw, it was 100 year old mahogany wood.
@Earthy-Artist2 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious, please if you don't mind sharing could you tell me why you prefer using the Shellac more than primer? I'm aware shellac is derived from an excretion from bugs which to me makes it sound more natural & less chemically. Excellent video by the way, thank you for clearing this mystery about poly yellowing or not up for me, made lots of sense.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
I prefer using Shellac over primer because a lot of the time I like to distress my pieces of furniture and I don't want the primer peeking through. I'd rather have just the raw wood peeking through. Sometimes I do use primer that has Shellac in the primer. If I want white peeking through under my paint color then yes primer with Shellac will be used.
@bonniebuchanan33073 жыл бұрын
We do round signs. We stain, then tape off, paint White. The white will yellow. Please advise? Should we use shellac only in that area before we paint. Yes, we are allowing the water-based stain to dry 24 hrs or more
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
When you stain are you staining the area that's going to be white too? I just curious about the prep area for the white area. I would definitely tape off the white area (if you can) and not stain it. Then apply shellac to that area (2 coats) and then paint white.
@reneghorashy69683 жыл бұрын
I have a question when it comes to painting "faux wood" I want to paint the cabinets in my RV and have heard that Polyacrylic causes the yellowing on white? Does "faux wood" have tannins?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Faux wood does not have tannins. Polycrylic and yellowing happens when people don't prep correctly or let the product pool in a corner.
@dchkerries12 жыл бұрын
I have yellow knotty pine tongue and groove wood walls that I used water-based stains on. The first stain I put on was white, and the next was light gray. I have a new quart of the water-based polyurethane by minwax. I'm afraid to use it on my walls that I worked so hard on to get the great color I have on the walls now. Do you think it's OK to leave the walls as is with just the stains or would putting on the water-based polyurethane bring out the tannins of the wood since there's only 2 coats of stain? I also plan to use the same gray stain on some wood furniture, but I'm afraid to cover them with the polyurethane for the same reasons. Please help!
@abnernheay4 жыл бұрын
hi, can I use sand sealer as a primer instead of shellac?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
I haven't used sand sealer before so I don't know if blocks wood tannins or not. Great question!
@sandj-tv3gs4 жыл бұрын
This video was so informative! Glad I came across it ... I have one question (hopefully). I purchased a piece of unfinished European walnut butcher block from Home Depot to make a desk and bought Varathane Pre-stain wood conditioner for prepping the wood. Will this serve the same purpose as the shellac or should I return it and get shellac instead to avoid yellowing?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
sandj2913 Glad you found the video informative. Question for you the wood that you purchased what are you planning on doing with it? Keeping it natural? Staining it? Painting it?
@sandj-tv3gs4 жыл бұрын
Madeline Jean Antiques & Restoration, LLC I purchased some Waverly chalk paint in 3 different colors to try and give the desk a weathered look that I’m going for.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
sandj2913 OK so to answer your original question (now that I know that you’re painting the wood). Wood conditioner is not the same as shellac. Wood conditioner will not block the tannins. Shellac will. You do not need to apply wood conditioner if you’re going to paint the wood. That’s used before you stain the wood. When you’re done painting the wood make sure you use a topcoat or a sealer that is water-based.
@sandj-tv3gs4 жыл бұрын
Madeline Jean Antiques & Restoration, LLC thanks so much!!! Will definitely be going to get some shellac and I purchased polycrylic sealer based on your reviews from another video. Thank you 😊
@sjane73003 жыл бұрын
I used a ultra Pure White Behr Cabinet and Trim enamel (water based) in satin to paint a dresser to use as a changing table. I am not certain what type of wood it is as we got it second hand, but it is a light wood that we sanded down and then applied 3 coats of the white enamel using a paint sprayer. I was planning on applying a few coats of polycrylic just to the top since it will be getting a lot of use and wear. Do you know if tannins typically bleed through this type of paint? Is it worth the risk of yellowing to add polycrylic considering a top coat technically isn't needed with the enamel paint? Will adding polycrylic even make any difference for the overall durability, or am I just going to make extra work for myself with nothing to show for it? Thanks so much!!
@sjane73003 жыл бұрын
Update: I ended up putting 3 coats of water based polyurethane using your method of foam brush with nylon booty. I opted for the semigloss and it turned out great!! Love the finish and I haven't noticed any yellowing yet :)
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Oh I"m so glad the nylon booty method worked for you!
@sidl86983 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t UV deprivation also yellow the top coat over time too?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
I personally wouldn't use Polycrylic over anything placed outside. I only use it on furniture that's used in the home and not exposed to direct sunlight.
@sidl86983 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 from your experience, does polycrylic yellow more or less when exposed to sun in comparison to polyurethane?
@motomyrtle4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. Seems like shellac will probably make stripping paint off easier someday too. Right?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Glad you found the video helpful! I'm not sure if Shellac will help in the future to make stripping paint easier.
@michellemakas6351 Жыл бұрын
I was so happy to watch this video about preparing the wood to prevent yellowing. I’m making a high top table with barstools. I’m wanting a weathered gray with white glaze effect. I used gel stain (weathered gray) on pine without prepping wood. I actually applied heavy with a brush. Let dry and wiped any left off with a dry cloth. Next applied GF white glaze and let dry. I then used my sander to remove some of the white glaze and gray started to be exposed as well. It had a weathered look about it which I loved put a spar polyurethane and watched my boards turn yellow. 😢 I then sanded all the boards close to but not completely removing all poly and all gel stain plus glaze. Help! I bought shellac tonight and poly acrylic. Ready to start over. Any suggestions? Wish I could share a picture.
@julianac814 жыл бұрын
Good info! I already used gel stain on an ash veneer table and I am planning to do water Minwax Whitewash on top and then sealing it with the Polycrylic. Would you recommend a shellac on top of the General Finishes gel stain before I whitewash it?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
So the gel stain is oil based correct? The minwax whitewash is oil based correct? Is there a reason you would be using Polycrylic over those to seal? Just curious. I would not shellac over the gel stain. Is there a reason why you are using Shellac over the stain? I'm a little confused.
@susanf15664 жыл бұрын
Hi just wondering does this advice also apply to new unfinished pine wood furniture? I want to paint part of my project white.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Yes very much! Definitely shellac the pine wood before you paint. Pine wood definitely is prone to the tannins coming thru the paint if you don't prep right, especially the wood knots.
@oliviado73024 жыл бұрын
So what do I do after you already applied the minwax clear matte and it yellowed. I prep my dresser used citrus strip to get rid of the stain. We sanded. Then I used Chalk paint dried over night. Then put the minwax clear matte. It gave us a yellowish tinge to my gray paint. How do I fix it? Do I have to take all the paint off and start all over?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you needed a blocking barrier, like Shellac, applied after you sanded and BEFORE you painted. To fix the yellowing, just apply two coats of Shellac and repaint. That should block any of the yellowing from happening again.
@IsaacMaganaMusic4 жыл бұрын
I just used it over a dark green furtinure, I waited 2 days after painting and I feel like it messed up my paint. Will the patches disappear after drying?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
How many coats have you put on? When you say patches what does that exactly mean? Spots that you have missed?
@IsaacMaganaMusic4 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 I only applied one coat. And by patches I meant that some parts look darker. I had to sand and paint again :( no polycrylic this time haha To help you picture the result I had, it was like a very vintage finish, very "brush strokes" look.
@mariapiedra23733 жыл бұрын
I've seen you use liming wax followed by minx semi-transparent paint in white for a 'driftwood' type of effect where the grain pops through. If that were done on mahogany what can I basecoat for it to adhere and still show grain and topcoat with to avoid yellowing? And yes, I stripped and sanded ALL of the old finish off. This is a piece for a rental and I would like to protect it as best as possible. Thanks!
@scottdellenbach86623 жыл бұрын
So I tried your method of two coats of shellac and then did three coats of paint and the yellow still came through. This has been quite a process as I am trying to build a cabinet for our office at home. First I stained the wood but we didn't like it so then we decided to go the complete opposite and use white. I used two coats of stain blocking primer, 2 coats of white paint, poly but that yellowed. Found your video sanded the wood a bit did two coats of shellac, sanded in between then did three coats of white and it is still coming through. Any tips? Thanks!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Sorry you are having issues with bleed through. Did you happen to sand the last coat of your Shellac?
@scottdellenbach86623 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 No I didn't. Was I supposed to?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
@@scottdellenbach8662 No. I thought maybe if you did sand the Shellac some of it was removed allowing some bleed thru to peek through. I don’t sand the Shellac. I just wanted clarification. I’m perplexed about your project. I’ve never had issues with bleed thru after I’ve applied two coats of Shellac.
@scottdellenbach86623 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 Its been a challenge. Kind of my first time finishing with paint. I'm used to staining but painting has been a trick. I am making a cabinet out of red oak plywood and like I said I started with a pretty dark stain but we didn't like it. I then did the primer, paint, etc.....
@DeeDosAliKat3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the information I needed! Now I know what I've been doing wrong this whole time. Thanks for the info!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome! Glad it helped!
@michellemdelapaz4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you'll see this, but I recently used a water-based stain blocking primer on a desk with the intention of painting it off white. I'm worried about tannins after seeing this video! Would using shellac OVER the primer work? Then paint, then Polycrylic? I don't want to mess up my work, lol
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Yes you can apply Shellac right over the primer. Then paint. Then Polycrylic. Easy fix.
@michellemdelapaz4 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 Thanks so much!
@dionysos1474 жыл бұрын
Hello I would love to have your opinion on a wood table that was made for me out 2 by 6 wood slabs. They are just stander hardware store wood pieces. I used minwax wood effects to help age them. I was going to use minwax polyacrylic for the top coat however this is for a high traffic area and after watching your videos I think I made a big mistake. I also have a soft wax I could use. What do you think would work best? Sorry to bother you with this and thank you for your time.
@karenbernard7624 жыл бұрын
several years ago i painted my brown kitchen cabinets two coats primer followed by 2 top coats. am getting ready to repaint but this time I would like to top coat with polyurethane. should i shelac before putting on the new paint and poly? I do have another shelf that i primed 2coats, painted two coats and then poly it turned yellow. should i have shelac instead of prime??
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to understand. Are you painting then using an oil based poly over your paint? What color of paint? If you are painting using a water based paint and then applying an oil based poly that's what is causing the yellowing.
@karenbernard7624 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 Sorry if I wasn't clear. The answer is NO. I am using a water based primer followed by water based paint followed by water based poly. I am now seeing yellow in the first few cabinet doors that I have done. My question is since they have been previously primed and painted and I now want to repaint and poly should I use shelac before the new coat of paint is applies. I am painting white. thanks in advance.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
@@karenbernard762 Yes apply Shellac BEFORE you paint. I would apply two coats. Painting with white paint has its headaches. I find two coats of Shellac always seals the bleed through.
@karenbernard7624 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 even though they have been prevoiusly painted???
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
@@karenbernard762 I guess that depends on the work you want to put into them. I thought you were originally asking if you can paint over your cabinets that I’ve already been painted that I’ve turned a little bit yellow. Yes you can paint over them, hand sand first, shellac, then paint. Ideally most people would advise to completely strip them or sand the paint off and start from zero. That’s an emended amount of work. Or you can just paint over them. Just make sure you are getting them clean first, then hand sand to make sure they are somewhat smooth.
@Lorena-wo2mf3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Does this prepping process apply to particleboard/veneer? I want to paint an Ikea bookcase in a light color, but I don't know if it's necessary to sand/shellac. I have polycrylic and a water based paint, and I don't want it to yellow (if that's even possible for composite wood) Thank you for the info!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
Hi there! To be honest I've never painted particleboard before. Definitely don't sand it with a sander it will rip it apart. I know that much. I do know people do paint particleboard/pressed wood. I'm just not sure how much prep is needed because it's not real wood. Shellac is mainly used to prevent the wood tannins from coming to the surface. You wouldn't have that issue. I think you would be okay to just paint.
@Lorena-wo2mf3 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 OK great! Thats good to know! I'll go ahead with just the paint/polycrylic. I do want to eventually redo a few real wood furniture pieces so I think the prep technique will come handy for those. Thanks for the help!
@aacdean4 жыл бұрын
Do i need to use shellac for -Acrylic paint -oil paint -concrete -air dry clay Or do i only need shellac for woods?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
I only apply Shellac over wood surfaces to block tannins before I paint.
@just_me_lashaunmarie26893 жыл бұрын
I used polyurethane on just a chalk painted piece immediately yellowed after drying. I went ahead and sanded everything and primed the piece. I’m hoping it won’t yellow again after the top coat. I’m gonna try polycrylic next
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90743 жыл бұрын
When starting out stick to the rule....only water based topcoats over water based paints. Only oil based topcoats over oil based paints. That might help. I hope the Polycyrlic worked out for you.
@just_me_lashaunmarie26893 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 thank you so much! I have yet to actually try it on my piece but I did a test on a block of wood and I haven’t seen yellowing and it’s been a few days! Fingers crossed 🤞🏻 🙂
@JoseReyes-xs3js11 күн бұрын
May be they used the polyurethane oil base one or yeah it can be the tanis too.
@julianab85214 жыл бұрын
Hi! I did faux granite countertop with acrylic paint and a polyurethane topcoat that yellowed pretty bad. It's a laminate countertop so would the shellac work with that also? I used a primer before but I'm going to redo it, hopefully with no yellowing 🤦🏽♀️
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
I believe your yellowing came into play because you used an oil based poly over acrylic paint. Was the poly oil based?
@julianab85214 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 yes it was oil based polyurethane should I have done polycrylic? Or something else to seal it?
@jessicamason42234 жыл бұрын
Bethany what are you saving your brush on after you dip into the acrylic. Also, remind me why the nylon bootie? I remember seeing it once but it’s lost in my memory somewhere
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
I usually place my foam brush in a plastic baggy wrapped tight overnight. I then can use it the next day when I apply my second coat. I use the nylon booty to cut down the possibility of little bubbles forming as I apply the Polycrylic. It assures a smooth application.
@jessicamason42234 жыл бұрын
Omg. Autocorrect. Was not ”saving”, was supposed to be “dipping”!!!
@marcellax45564 жыл бұрын
Hi Madeline! Thanks for uploading a great video. I recently sanded, primed and painted my kitchen cabinets white and decided that I would repaint and seal in the spring. There’s no yellowing at all three weeks later, but in the Spring, do you recommend that I start from scratch with your method?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
That depends. What are your cabinets made of?
@alexahowmanyhamsters13124 жыл бұрын
Glad I subbed lol watched so many of your vids just now. If I do a different top coat, such as the Rustoleum chalk top coat, would I still have an issue with the tannins? Thank you 🤗
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Thank you so much for the sub! To answer your question even if you do a different topcoat (make sure it's water based) over your white paint you will most likely have issues with tannins. I would definitely prep with Shellac before you paint.
@alexahowmanyhamsters13124 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 Awesome, thank you so much 😸
@maryfranklin3393 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@jasminedavila38564 жыл бұрын
I’ve already painted my piece of furniture White using Fusion Mineral paint.. what would you suggest for applying a top coat? I cleaned and sanded my piece very well before painting. I’m afraid of yellowing and not sure what I should do at this point as far as applying a top coat..
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the type of wood and how you prepped the piece. Before painting did you Shellac it? If you didn't it may yellow if you apply a water based topcoat. You could always apply clear wax if that's the look you are going for. Wax usually never yellows.
@juliehampton74382 жыл бұрын
I wish I learned about your advice earlier! I took my time prepping my pine shiplap boards! I used a wood conditioner as I had been adviced to do before staining. I then used white paint over the top of the stain and heavily distressed! After which used polycrylic! The next day after nailing all the boards up I noticed half the boards had started yellowing and some had not. My question is should I have used shellac over the stain first before painting? And how do I fix this now without starting all over?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
Usually you use Shellac BEFORE you paint. I'm not understanding why you stained and then painted? Most people don't mix the two.
@alejandraramirez90322 жыл бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 I'm going to stain an unfinished wood table (I think it's pine) and was going to apply a wood conditioner before as step #1. Should I apply the conditioner AND shellac before staining or just shellac? Last step after staining would be to apply polycrylic.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
@@alejandraramirez9032 I’m confused as to why you are using Shellac and Polycrylic over the stain? Are you applying an oil based or water based stain?
@Vvvvvvvvvv4596 ай бұрын
Ugh. I used krud kutter and did two layers of shellac on my piece and painted light pink and then polycrylic and it still yellowed. 😞
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90746 ай бұрын
Oh noooooo!!!! Hmmmm what type of wood? Do you happen to know? What kind of paint? Trying to get to the bottom of why it yellowed.
@Vvvvvvvvvv4596 ай бұрын
@@madelinejeanantiquesrestor9074 thank you for responding! I just came across your channel while searching how to fix this issue! I used Krylon chalk paint. I think it’s a cherry wood possibly. I’m new to this, so I’m learning as I’m going. I’d post pics to show you, but KZbin doesn’t have that option. My question now would be, if you do not mind answering, should I just shellac again over the spots that have tan bleed through and then paint back over those spots? I even thought about getting the kilz 123. I’m not sure what to do. 😭😭 It’s very stressful as I’m painting several pieces at a time.
@phillipremondini56174 жыл бұрын
Well done 👏 preping is key. Preping is always a long process but it's the determining factor to the success of a project
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Very true! Prepping isn't the most fun but it's vital for a successful outcome. Thanks for watching!
@laurabantock89124 жыл бұрын
I made a mistake by putting wax on top of my dining room table, can I add varathane on top or do I need to paint again?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
You would need to remove the wax with mineral spirits before you apply the varathane topcoat.
@littlebeebs12 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Thank you so much for this video. I make faux aged mantles and hearths . I used water-based stains to get beautiful gray and black tones. Everything I have tried, including shellac has yellowed one of my test mantels . I don’t have time to wait for the dead flat varnish. And it is way too pricey in my opinion. What can I use that wont ruin the beautiful light grey colors I’ve made ? It needs to have a flat look . Rustoleum Matte Clear Enamel does ok and was the least yellow . It changed the color the least of all things I tried . I tried shellac ( most yellow of all ) , Minwax Polycrylic , Varathane Ultimate Water Based Ploy , Perma Chink water based sealant . And the Rustoleum spray . It will be in a rental house. That is really the only reason I want to seal it . It’ll get destroyed fast . Have you tried wood hardener? I wonder if it would yellow? By the way , I’m using pine wood . Thank you so much 😊
@GayleShores-q7n9 ай бұрын
Ty for this
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90749 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@aj.86652 жыл бұрын
Zinsser BIN has a Shellac based primer which is the best of both worlds and it doesn't raise the grain since its not water based. Light sanding in between coats and you're ready for paint.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
Yes very true! I really like the Zinsser BIN Shellac based primer in white IF I don't mind having a white colored base. Especially if I desire to distress a piece and have that white peeking through BUT sometimes I don't want a white base that's when the clear Shellac comes into place.
@sheilaspanski41964 жыл бұрын
What if you prepped and cleaned a surface and it was made out of fiberglass and still yellowing appears? What would that be caused by? Could it be the type of chalk paint?
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
I'm unfamiliar with painting fiberglass. Was this a door your painted?
@sheilaspanski41964 жыл бұрын
No, it was my stand up walk in shower. This place was burned inside in different places, but when my husband bought it before he passed, we were Fixing it up. Now he is gone and I decided to keep renovating and painted my whole inside of my shower and both bathroom sinks and cabinets. Well it all came out beautifully, but about a week later I noticed yellowing in the bottom of the shower. Now my fiberglass countertop on one side has a little too. I used that very same top coat and i sandpaper and scrubbed it over and over again before i did anything. I appreciate you.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
@@sheilaspanski4196 Hmmmm not sure why the yellowing happened. Could have been a prepping issue, could of been the type of paint you used. Painting anything in the bathroom you need a water resistant paint and a tough paint. As you know lots of moisture in a bathroom. I would have opted for an enamel paint. Topcoat is built in.
@Kawaiierest4 жыл бұрын
i love this video! i have been trying to paint my dressers white. this video it was the most informative about yellowing and talking about multiple paints especially for someone who has no idea whats going on:) thank you for the examples too. subscribed! i have a few questions:) i sanded my two dressers they had lighter wood - like pine, it was mostly like laminate woods, kinda fake-y feel. and then i painted 2 layers of rustoleum white chalk paint. and then i was going to use a rustoleum water based poly to coat, but i am scared of it yellowing. can i sand and do shellac? is the spray ok? and then i can repaint white? also have you tried/heard of mixing the paint w a water-based poly to top coat to help prevent yellowing? do you think i could try this in combination? thanks so much!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
I LOVE HEARING THIS! I'm delighted you found this video so helpful. Okay to help with your question...if I were you I wouldn't apply the water based poly just yet. I don't want you to have to remove the paint and start over. I would apply two coats of Shellac over what you have already painted. I know it's a pain but pine likes to yellow. THEN after you have Shellac, THEN paint again, THEN apply the water based poly. Spray Shellac is fine too. I have never mixed paint with the water based poly, that sounds like a recipe for trouble. HAHA! Let me know it this helps.
@Kawaiierest4 жыл бұрын
Madeline Jean Antiques & Restoration, LLC thank you soo much! i think to be safe i should probably sand it down before shellac? and also again maybe before sealing? thank you for answering my questions!!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Kawaiierest I would not put shellac over paint so I don’t know what you’re doing after sanding and then shellac. What are you are you doing next? Paint or stain?
@Kawaiierest4 жыл бұрын
Madeline Jean Antiques & Restoration, LLC since i already have painted it white, sand, shellac 2 coats, then i can paint it over again? then i have a water based poly? im wondering if i should/need to sand between since its so many coats :)
@colombiana11024 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all these very helpful info! Can you apply Polycrilic with a roller? I’m more of a roller person lol. Thanks!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Diana M Tarzia Hi Diana! Thank you for liking the video 😊 I would not recommend applying Polycrylic with a roller mainly because it will leave bubbles, tiny little bubbles when you roll it. I’ll admit I like applying paint sometimes with a roller but unfortunately this product doesn’t go on smooth with a roller.
@tradergirl70674 ай бұрын
polycrylic absolutely turns surfaces yellow. mostly white painted surfaces will turn yellow with poly. you may be correct about the wood bleed but the fact remains poly does turn white paint yellow
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 ай бұрын
All white surfaces will turn yellow with OIL BASED poly. Polycrylic is water based. I still have a dresser, that I painted white and sealed with polycrylic and it has not turned yellow. It's all about the prep.
@lillianrodriguez71762 жыл бұрын
Hi my name is Lily I enjoyed your info but I did prep well I believe I primed twice painted two coats then lightly sanded the added poly acrylic twice and there was yellowing I always ever since I was 15 yrs old to do makeovers on furniture love it I just started to do it all over again I want to flip furniture and give a customer the best quality work that’s me if it’s not right it won’t sell So please help I get overwhelmed with so many opinion’s thank you
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90742 жыл бұрын
I have one question for you the primer that you used was it shellac based? It needs to read shellac based on the can it’s by Zinsser and it has a red label.
@madalenarocha9874 жыл бұрын
Hello Madeline. New on your chanel☺ and i love your job. It helps a lot.Congratulations😚 Can i put polycrilic over the wax?!
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Hi there! Welcome to my channel!!! Glad my videos are being helpful. Wax is always last is the saying in the furniture restoration world. You can put wax OVER polycryclic but you can't put polycrylic over wax. It won't adhere well.
@madalenarocha9874 жыл бұрын
Thank you☺ Kisses from Portugal😚
@amandapaintsllc62724 жыл бұрын
Small furniture projects and dark colors you can get away with most acrylic clear coats, but if you are doing kitchen cabinets and you have a window shining sunshine on them it will yellow where the sun hits them even with shellac. But General finishes has an acrylic poly that has a UV protective additive in the coat you have to use a shellac primer but I have cabinets for clients going back 8 years now with no yellowing. I have used most all other acrylic clear coats and they have yellowed with shellac primer using krudd cutter gloss off for prep happening 8 months later. I will say though I have yet to use the Minwax brand and stopped to watch this because of the high demand for flat matt look on cabinets, and they have a matt I believe so to make this test truly correct I think you need to mask off one side of the board and set it in the sun for a while. I would love it if you did that.
@madelinejeanantiquesrestor90744 жыл бұрын
Great points Amanda! Yes I would advise anyone applying a clear topcoat to get one with a UV protective if your project is exposed to direct sun daily. I personally have had good luck with the Minwax Polycrylic over white paint with proper prep. I have a few pieces in my home and years later they still haven't yellowed. Thank goodness! Regarding the matte finish with Minwax Polycrylic. It's not truly matte. It still looks a bit satin. I did another video not too long ago comparing the Minwax Polycrylic and Modern Masters Dead Flat Varnish. You might find that video helpful. Oh and great suggestion with placing the Minwax Polycrylic in the sun for awhile. I still have my sample boards with the white paint and that as a topcoat. I could easily place the board in the sun and do a follow up video. Thanks again for stopping by and leaving your thoughts. Appreciate it!
@alyssabent77203 жыл бұрын
Just started upcycling dressers and this video was very helpful and fun! Thank you 🙂