Polymer 80 Pistol Blanks - January 2023 Update

There has been a lot happening with Polymer 80 and the ATF over the past 12 months. The ATF issues a ruling in August 2022 that required some changes from Polymer 80 to stay in compliance. In December 2023, the "Compliance" line was moved a little further. We stopped by the booth at SHOT Show 2023 to get an update from CEO Loran Kelley and see how things are evolving.

[@kellydardeen6308]

Didn't Know The ATF Had The Power To Legislate Laws... ? I Believe There Job is To Enforce The Laws Passed By Congress !

[@chilkattgear5800]

It’s called executive law. They can make a law, and enforce it, until it’s challenged. It’s messed up, and why our fight will never be over.

[@jbsack]

Apparently, in the Biden administration they can….. lol

[@deucedeuce1572]

They don't. Supreme Court ordered an injunction against them for this... but I'm sure Polymere80 will cowardly continue to obey them, even when they don't have to. Just like bump-stocks, cowards would stop selling them, even though there's no law that says they can't. We're so cowardly a nation that we even obey "laws" that don't even exist.

[@kellydardeen6308]

@deucedeuce1572 So Did You Watch The Video ? If You Did You Would Know That He Has Already Filed Lawsuits Against The Attorney General and The ATF and He is Confident That They Will WIN ! in Court. But For Now He Has Employees With Families To Keep Employed as He Feels Responsible For Them and Even Though it's Costing Him a Lot Of Money to Re-Tool He Has To For Now To Comply To Keep His Company in Buisness ! I Have Nothing But Respect For This Man !!!

[@timoliver1004]

The politicians advocated their responsibility to unelected government agencies and just sell influence now

[@jtuttle11]

The ATF 'Final Rule on 80% frames and AR lowers has been thrown out!

[@Go2Sleep87]

Pretty soon they’ll just ship you a single block of polymer with a note that reads 🤞.

[@jll9764]

This man is what every business owner should strive to be!

[@ekzoskelitN]

Mr. Kelley seems like a chill guy but also upstanding. Good discussion, and thank you for your early coverage on P80.

[@Bearcotraining]

This was my first time meeting him in person but we definitely had good conversation on and off camera. He is passionate about what he does.

[@steveo6685]

@@Bearcotraining do ALL these NEW frames have serial numbers on them NOW?????

[@steveo6685]

@@Bearcotraining PLEASE let me no, I’m trying to open my own gun shop and sell ONLY polymer 80s because I love them Sooo much, great video

[@Bearcotraining]

@@steveo6685 That is my understanding. You can always check directly with Polymer 80 on the latest. www.polymer80.com/become-a-dealer

[@MissingLinkMTB]

Love my P80's. Just ordered more now that they're back up on their site and on sale since the injunction passed. Anybody (well, you know) can go to a store and buy a firearm, but to make your own and customize it during the building process to make it unique to you is just so rewarding.

[@mac8080]

Basically what this insanity that the ATF is doing is elevating the skills of millions of armature gun smiths because none of us are ever going to give up our freedom, we will just become better machinists and with that we will get the ability to build even more firearms Can't way for the 80% .50BMG :)

[@huntercampbell9603]

Well spoken sir! Great representative and great video!!!

[@justinholmes5328]

Thank you for standing for freedom and our constitutional rights.

[@scarredxshinobi7341]

I hope we can get better rails as well

[@LYLEWOLD]

For those of us that live in states where we can't buy gen4s and gen5s, P80 is awesome! Even compared to my gen4 19, I still like the grip of my P80s more than any on my Gs. Thank you P80 for all you do. (edit - and if you ever wanna do a compact full frame, ala g29 or g30, I would be glad to test those for you. just sayin')

[@LaRuta.Ovrland]

What p80 frame do I have to use to build a 5gen? 19

[@flintstriker2791]

@@LaRuta.Ovrland I think they're set up for gen 3 components. The ergonomics are beyond gen 5, with stippling, trigger guard undercut, beavertail, & a nice straight grip.

[@4hunnuuhh334]

Man I love Mr. Kelly & The Whole Polymer80 team

[@5upgunplay551]

I like in Tx and own so many different rifles ARs glocks and my favorite are the ones i build. P80 a GGP are my favorite such good looking firearms

[@US2A]

My p80 unboxing got a strike, me milling a lower and nothing 🤔

[@allenhammer7923]

I got a G26 but it had no instruction what to remove or how to do it and the place for the take down spring does not exist? No video on sight to show you? How do I find out? Where is there a proper video? KZbin ones were completely lame? Please help.

[@metro8974]

Im behind polymer 80 all day i love building my own custom glock love u guys keep pushing forward

[@yo_stephen]

Anybody know of any guides for the new lower? < I’m new to this

[@thebluestig2654]

I'd just like to see them branch out into frames from other brands instead of just Glock and AR. Maybe something like a polymer Browning High Power frame, or a polymer 1911 frame.

[@drmachinewerke1]

A Taurus g2c frame. And a 1911 frame

[@pepepantuflas1]

They got aluminum 1911 frames

[@thebluestig2654]

@@pepepantuflas1 They're expensive, and a major pain in the backside to accurately install a slide correctly. It's the most involved process out of all 80% builds if you don't have a digital milling machine.

[@tdoc2651]

I wish they would reprofile the trigger guard to accommodate more holsters.

[@lashingsine6901]

Are they gonna make new sub compact blanks that are compliant?!?

[@Mad_Marx]

When will they start shipping again? I purchased mine 10 months ago….. still haven’t received so much as an email, let alone any parts.

[@BooBooFrm1100]

What day of this month is it suppose to be released?

[@luciankristov6436]

Ive built a ton of P80 glocks and milled my own AR lowers even though im an AK guy. Built my own stamping jig and for AK recievers. Now i just 3D print my own glock lowers. Not exactly the best but they work for a decent amount of rounds 1000+

[@kilorodriguez7885]

polymer 80 changed my life in positive ways only this guy knew i was a cnc machinist without me telling him 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@chethaynes5802]

Go Polymer 80 !

[@anewbetterme9277]

First of all... I am a convicted falon. I did what I had to do to get my rights back and my concealed carry recently. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING A CONVICTED FALON! I have been one of the most RESPONSIBLE gun owners that I know. It's not the convicted falons out here doing stupid things (abusing the 2nd amendment) with "Polymer80" or any other self built fire arms. Look at what the real problem is. It is definitely not Polymer80 frames. Smh

[@devol01fm]

How is it possible you got your 2a rights?

[@CVEIWKID]

Polymer 80 should be known as the most American gun you can by

[@mikedowney2168]

The ATF doesn't make the laws!!

[@martinrps13]

So basically all the older kits are way better….good to know

[@theonecalledvino8165]

I got 2 of those Bridge Frame 76%. It's a Joy kill. By the time I got mine, The due date to exchange to 80% had past. Can't find any info on working a 76% frame. I get a little jealous of people with woking P80 builds

[@chasedavis2358]

So this is the 76% frame?

[@skate166]

did you make a new jig too?

[@RichardNixion357]

DEEZ NUTS Soup Group, and Merry Christmas. -P80

[@UncleDanBand64]

Great video. I have never bought a P80 frame but, I am going to now. That gentleman is what America is all about.

[@Fatboy-jn8gm]

You might not want to right now stupid hard to complete it because of the plastic that has to be removed I have two p80 builds and I just got the new compliant frames and they aren’t worth it had to end up throwing out

[@UncleDanBand64]

@@Fatboy-jn8gm OH, thanks for the heads-up 👍

[@Or3guns]

At 6:54 what slide and frame is that???

[@Zosa_]

God bless polymer 80

[@blueyedevil3479]

This Man and the owner of Palmetto State are the types of leaders and business owners this community needs and should ABSOLUTELY Show our appreciation for.

[@stevehoffy597]

On a skill scale of 0 to 100 the er old frame needed a skill of 5 and this one needs 110! I tried removing the trigger housing tabs with a dremel and blew through the frame! Good luck with this one!

[@NO_QUARTER_GIVEN]

That's why I bought 5 before August 2022 arrived

[@drfroglegs]

They are aweful and P80 won't exchange them now that they won the injunction. You would think $2 worth of plastic they would be willing to swap the bridge frame for the old style in the name of good customer service, but I guess not. Edit: I would like to commend P80. They offered an exchange program where those of us who purchased the bridge frame can exchange them for the original type for only $25 (including shipping). They even allow frames that have been damaged when trying to complete them. I'm very pleased and want to thank them for listening to their customers!

[@abriseneau]

Dremel works just keep it on speed three max with a steady hand thank me later😎

[@max_moto2877]

@@abriseneauwhat bits are you using?

[@macrueb3404]

Is this the Polymer80 store in Reno nv?❤🎉

[@douglasphillips24]

I didn't even know they sell these anymore. I want 20 of them lol. Love Polymer 80.

[@CENTCOASTxANGLER831]

Will the new frames, be able to get ship to California due to it being a new frame?

[@deathunitesus2135]

Hahaha ha NOPE.

[@nunyabinness3574]

So now its a P65...😒

[@terronb718]

Can someone give me a video on how to build the new frames 2023

[@DLDafterDark]

Go to freedom crew university. I also have the jigs at DLD Hardware. Sorry I'm 7 mo the late lol Good luck

[@stateofoklahomashallnotbei5469]

Fortunately rules are not laws..

[@jamesgrace1146]

When will they be available and who will be selling them?

[@KevinJames-yg9eu]

Now and from one of everybody's favorite dealers -- Delta Team Tactical.

[@matthewfluke7957]

3:14 ✊preach brother

[@jeffcron931]

I highly respect them for meeting halfway with dealers, this speaks highly on their morales. I do however wish they would have changed the style a bit but beggars can't be choosers.

[@SaltyNationalist]

Sooooo now it's a Polymer 60??

[@duckduckglowie9619]

So this one is unserialized like the old ones right? And also where r u able to buy it??

[@jeffreybrooks8643]

See the link on the Polymer80 website which directs you to their retail outlet Delta Team Tactical. Good luck!

[@Unknown62656]

Anyone know where I can get p80 kit or Glock frames at in California

[@SuchaSavage]

Hit me

[@LaRuta.Ovrland]

Quick question what P80frame do I need to build a glock 19 5thgen?

[@KevinJames-yg9eu]

One that doesn't exist, since they're all 3rd gen.

[@LaRuta.Ovrland]

@@KevinJames-yg9eu ???

[@nahoxme]

@@LaRuta.Ovrland p80s only use gen 3 parts

[@AnimeFan_2013]

This is really interesting, this adds like an extra level/challenge to testing your gunsmith skills

[@HennyManTactics]

I miss freedom how abou everyone else

[@tokshorts8407]

So is it Polymer 60 now 😂😂

[@CarrieWard-ny1zl]

I’m a dropout pot grower we can shred on the skateboard and the guitar building a polymer 80 was easy… but maybe that’s because I I was born in 76 And I know how to follow road signs from Little Rock to Sacramento without pulling out my damn phone….

[@tgc.joshua]

Is it legal to purchase in California?

[@ericcartman8716]

Hell no unless the lower is serialized and you have a permit and you have to go through a ffl to get the lower

[@KeynSong]

No one is going to buy the bridge frames once they realize how much work is involved.

[@GetShitDone-du6xd]

Not to mention no rails or pins included. Have to buy them for $100 and $9 pins from other vendors. P80 is robbing people blind.

[@KinoTechUSA69]

Im glad he said who his customers are. Im a machinist and regularly finish 80's. I own guns on the books too, not a criminal.

[@angelaguilar9717]

Can we order this from USA once released.

[@ericcartman8716]

Yup depends on what state you live in they will bring it right to your door if not the lower needs to be serialized and you have to pick it up from a ffl

[@fvckjayskii7965]

if anyone knows how to get that “bridge” out let me know i dont wanna use a dremel and mess it up at all!

[@jminkvihubyb]

I haven't done it so these are just ideas on how I'd try.. I'd use those cuticle snip things (idk what it's called) to get the larger stuff cut, then I'd use my torch to get a scalpel like knife red hot and slowly saw thru the excess before filing. I have a dentists instrument set & mechanical watch toolset that I'd pull out for some areas. it'll def be tedious. Btw I've cut stuff with a red hot knife before, you have to keep heating the knife over and over to get any results and I don't recommend lol tbh I'd just order one of gst's instead

[@rawdawgg_]

Did you figure it out? Curious how you went about it

[@camarols6712]

And nothing ever in stock

[@richardcurrin7812]

I’d pay to watch Brandon, Dettelbach and others of similar ilk try to build a Polymer80 or an 80% AR

[@drvgged]

I love it

[@timothykelly2605]

Sorry I’m not intellectual enough to know how the hell you mill out that new area where trigger assembly sits. I’ve built dozens of p80s but this one stumped me.

[@skinnypete5158]

Do they ship to California?

[@circuitboardprojects6500]

Nope

[@playboidom8717]

All u gotta do is get a cutter nd cut that back part out to fit the trigger in

[@KevinJames-yg9eu]

No, that is not all. There is material that has to be removed to insert the front rail, and the front pin hole is no longer pre-drilled. There is no jig with provisions for that hole, and it is centered on the corner of an angled surface, so it's going to need an end mill and fixturing, not simply a drill bit.

[@ericcartman8716]

Let me guess you wanna put a switch on there too na mean

[@caseyne]

Hopefully they use a different online retailer for the blanks. Delta team tactical is horrible.

[@blackcatgitch6948]

Elaborate

[@chasebenji5708]

I had ordered a frame 2 weeks before this recent ban , they didn’t ship it in time so I couldn’t get the frame because they took so long & the ban happened

[@edlam87]

URL LINK ANY? G FILES DOWNLOAD LINK

[@sportshighlights5988]

freedom aint free

[@d.archerofficial]

So it’s not an 80% lower it’s a 90% lower, smh

[@beansNguns]

I just order 9 p80 Glock 19 and 2 g17 p80

[@Adroit1911]

The giys at p80 are true Americans thank you for everything y'all do!!! God bless!!!

[@VideosBanales]

The ATF got shut down regarding lower receivers. You can buy any receiver now thanks to our hardworking congressman. The ATF cant make laws…

[@timothykelly2605]

How tf do I mill out that trigger pocket. I ordered like 5 of these not knowing that BS was in there. Been building p80s for years and never had a problem. I absolutely demolished one of those new “bridge”’products trying to open that area at the back. The other 4 are collecting dust

[@PDudeJr]

You need to put it in a vice and use a dremel. Drill press and crossvice works here in place of a milling machine. Good luck to you. It isn't easy. You'll probably ruin a few frames along the way. The best you can do is be patient and take your time. If you're really determined, you can accomplish this with a chisel and some files.

[@max_moto2877]

@@PDudeJrwhat dremel bits you using.

[@pezpengy9308]

gosh, i like this guy! of course i would never EVER consider doing something so awful like finishing out my own pet glock. no sir! i worship at the altar of the atf! yup! thats my story and im sticking to it!

[@elijahkeating5594]

Sounds like we’re all happy 😊for now

[@drmachinewerke1]

The hard part is the long part. And just use a coping saw Go slow Use a wood chisel to start with.

[@dojathedon6095]

Can I still get a p80 in cali with no ffl

[@ericcartman8716]

Nope

[@daryllmroberts7958]

as of 3-2024 i was told there totally illegal to build one in ny state,,3 yrs ago yes,,,but no longer,,,gov hochul is a huge gun hater,,

[@MR.IceCreamMan93]

Wish they'd send them to Illinois

[@jondavidmcnabb]

You have any relatives in Indiana? We in the free state of Indiana can get these....

[@ericcartman8716]

They do if you have a handgun permit just need to have them sent to a ffl

[@johnhawkins4162]

Can’t get them in California anymore. Never will knowing the corrupt government here

[@tedwright1380]

Ship them / it to friend / family in a free state. Rebox & ship to your location. More hoops yes but if you want it you will do it. Make friends with a trucker that resides in a free state and travels to your state regularly. Have them buy it and bring it to you.

[@johnhawkins4162]

That might work.

[@jorgetheyellowgreenbean5908]

Polymer 65

[@TheBluePilledPebric]

I’m good I rather just use my cnc machine to make p320 FCU lmao

[@KILLERGRAVITY-sb3bh]

Do you mean a 3D printer or actually a metal glock frame?

[@user-ie4kp7ni9d]

@@KILLERGRAVITY-sb3bh on a sig the fcu is serialized not the frame

[@KILLERGRAVITY-sb3bh]

@@user-ie4kp7ni9d aw ok I see thanks

[@BangBang-hk4rg]

Man, that would be sweet! 👍

[@bkslsh]

I placed an order with them when they were running a sale back in March, and never heard from them again. Not sure where they are at with everything but any update would have been nice. At this point I just consider my order as a donation to their legal battle with the alphabet boys.

[@jiggityyjake2992]

Same man I got my glock 26 version but never received the glock 19, been waiting since March 28th.

[@93.diesel]

Go p80 🎉 ayye I just subbed I was lookin for this video appreciate it all he’s speaking facts nothing but the truth 🖕 ATF

[@austinevans5387]

I just got mine... anybody got any good ideas? Maybe save me some time of trial and error

[@robertfoote3255]

Marine Gun Builder. Utube and Rumble

[@RobbyPerry-og2ge]

This is what pisses me off people feed their family’s creating these company’s for people that refuse to be sheep

[@alexxela1671]

Hello. How much worse is Polymer 80 in quality and strength than the original Glock frame? What is the maximum shot Polymer 80 can be? More than 200.000? Sorry, I'm writing through a translator!

[@HennyManTactics]

It’s not worse it depends on builder quality

[@alexxela1671]

@@HennyManTactics I'm sorry, it was translated very funny =) Did you mean quality depends on the person who makes it?

[@HennyManTactics]

@@alexxela1671 yes

[@TheOnlyDonQuixoteDeLaMancha]

What a guy! Giving credit where it's due.

[@camarols6712]

The bridge frames are junk

[@why6212]

*Compliance80

[@YourLocalShooter]

I hope Polymer80 wins. There lowers are amazing for building glock clones.

[@damahom92]

So can I build this in WA state?

[@scarredxshinobi7341]

Bring the white color way back

[@GerldoMorales]

Me built one like a a glock 17 and she worck good is like he said is flat 9f people whit skills and special tools to make work rigth and mine come aut good a take time and patience to make work good up to day of today me gat more the 400 rounds on her texti g her and never jam a me good product tanks to tha man

[@druanubis7194]

Bridge frame is nothing more than junk, don't buy!

[@sentineloffreedomforever1381]

Felons are intelligent articulate people also, Maybe not all of them but not all law abiding citizens are either

[@travishutchings5423]

I had orders from their dealer and it was excuses until it was to late. I asked p80 to fix it they told me to pound sand. I am in process of developing my own solutions. I am better off. I been a faithful customer of theirs for awhile and at this point they are not capable of providing products.

[@blackcatgitch6948]

Elaborate please

[@travishutchings5423]

​@@blackcatgitch6948On what exactly? My orders were not fulfilled. I decided to develop and design on my own and maybe in about a year or more I might have something developed in house. p80 was a convenience for me not a necessity and when their dealer failed to deliver I decided to go another way with it.

[@andreistre7336]

absolutely... people who paint gun hobbyists'' with the same brush as criminals dont understand that they are doing themselves a disservice as well. every law some special interest group tries to get on the books is just another way to keep the real reasons for increased crime in the US on the rise. every open carry state ive lived in has been the most polite people in public. the adage,"an armed society is a polite society" is an observable fact. the same people who say support the troops will, in the same breath, denounce everything that most troops hold dear and that all troops swore an oath to uphold. disband the ATF ASAP ... stop trying to get the federal government to intercede in the governing of free states. if you dont like guns' you dont have to buy one ... yeehaw guys love the stuff

[@joesashiify]

👍🏿👍🏾👍🏽👍🏼👍👍🏻🇺🇸

[@ViolentineZ]

Use them in airsoft as toys