I love how Micah is treated as comedic relief but straight up outshoots everyone
@timoconnell73654 ай бұрын
For real
@didamnesia35754 ай бұрын
That's basically real life in a nutshell.
@recoiler45454 ай бұрын
Dude is slaying it.
@HamFlare_3 ай бұрын
Micah Bell?
@chrisjason65463 ай бұрын
charles?
@LautaroQ28124 ай бұрын
Charlie's energy and his ability to throw Mike off genuinely is amazing, unmatched and unique. It makes these videos so fun to watch.
@gemini2in14 ай бұрын
I haven't watched a lot of their videos but Charlie is wild. In a calm different and like you said...unique way.
@BarFlyChef4 ай бұрын
Yes sir. Yay Charlie! 🎉
@BarFlyChef4 ай бұрын
Charlie is like the Casio Keyboard, to Mike Jones' Rap Lyrics.
@Carnefice4 ай бұрын
@@gemini2in1he's wild....in a calm way?
@mdbmock4 ай бұрын
Mangis
@zaccampa40553 ай бұрын
Loved the ATF jabs haha The water drop sound effects in the abdomen shot killed me 😂
@jodman19993 ай бұрын
I had a FiveseveN years ago. We bought the SS197 ammo from FN and it penetrated both sides of a soft Kevlar vest. It was a small hollow point round but it went straight through the vest. They stopped making the SS197 round, I would imagine because it was penetrating like that while it was designed to be a "civilian" round rather than the 190 armor piercing. I was full time law enforcement and still couldn't get my hands on the armor piercing rounds. You had to buy them through a department at that time, you couldn't have a letterhead to bring to the gun shop. It was a great pistol, I carried it as a secondary on SWAT. Almost no recoil and it barked some flames. I think the ammo now is toned down.
@user-nb8yt2il2r2 ай бұрын
i have 2 boxes of ss197 in my closet right now that i bought like 1 year ago, they did not stop making it
@jaimeramos26442 ай бұрын
What was your primary pistol at the time? Curiosity…
@jodman19992 ай бұрын
@@jaimeramos2644A Glock 19. Back then you had to buy most of your own stuff. They had a few UMP 45s and one ancient MP5SD. When I got in narcotics and did a lot of high risk search warrants I had an issued DPMS Panther with a 10 inch barrel and fun switch. I miss it...
@jodman19992 ай бұрын
@@user-nb8yt2il2rNo kidding? I couldn't find them anywhere. I thought they quietly stopped making them. I wish I would have never sold the pistol. At least the guy I sold it to had the PS-90 so it made a nice pair.
@clckhere8782 ай бұрын
SS197SR is not a hollow round, it's the "standard round" from fn with a blue tip, and it's sold at every academy and bass pro...
@danielquinnferguson65064 ай бұрын
I love how Charlie is normal at times, and then just: “Kill people with hammers!!!”
@michaelcarter31494 ай бұрын
He is a man of class and intelligence lol
@bhante13454 ай бұрын
That's just standard operating for most people isn't it?
@Stealth866514 ай бұрын
Hammers are completely normal. You telling me you don't have multiple car hammers with you whenever you're out? What if you need to remove some nails, or have faulty equipment that needs a little percussive maintenance?
@Doc_Valeri4 ай бұрын
I read "kill people with hamsters!!!" and it didn't even occur to me I read it wrong 😂
@andyf42924 ай бұрын
theres going to be a netfix documentary at some point...
@darthtytherous21074 ай бұрын
I’m glad that Charlie’s back and that he’s okay.
@xShepZ4 ай бұрын
I'm a bit out of the loop, what happened to him?
@mjay62454 ай бұрын
@xShepZ I heard he had a baby..I think it was a joke he was sick..not sure.
@Abolish_The_ATF4 ай бұрын
@@xShepZall of them lived in Washington but Mike and Micah moved to Idaho. Charlie just left Washington finally to follow them to Idaho
@ironbonk114 ай бұрын
what even happened I haven't watched grand thumb in like 3 weeks
@gregoryburns40344 ай бұрын
Glad to see Charlie's is back & healthy 🙌 🙏🏻
@professorgoat10994 ай бұрын
also keep in mind : FNH/FN America's contract with most companies has resulted in a purposed reduction in velocity to reduce the performance of 5.7x28 ammunition (probably at the fbi's request). speer gold dot being one of the worst... aac's velocity seems to be one of the best. but the projectile performance isnt quite there yet. of course, if you get your hands on older ammunition or private loads, you will see how the 5.7x28 USE to perform...
@websterriАй бұрын
And its performance is incredible.
@mikebove8968Ай бұрын
Yep. 5.7mm Gold Dot produces some of the worst ballistics compared to most other 5.7mm brands. Guntreviews has a side by side of Gold Dot vs SS197 with the SS197 penetrating 2" further and producing a significantly larger wound channel despite costing roughly 1/3 that of Gold Dot.
@DD_Dietriech20 күн бұрын
So it received the 10mm treatment, but without the love?
@Sensorium1920 күн бұрын
Downloaded ammo is a plague.
@squidy408214 күн бұрын
Why reduce it ?
@haze46484 ай бұрын
I died at “It seems to do exactly what all the other bullets we’ve tested done which is, it will… fuck you up”
@JN1-5063 ай бұрын
Charlie is the goat
@rossmcknight90533 ай бұрын
Same
@tr33vans652 ай бұрын
Nah fr that shit was funny ah
@SoloRenegade4 ай бұрын
The 5.7x28 was the round of choice for Stargate Command, so it's clearly a highly capable and lethal round.
@Taidaan4 ай бұрын
Indeed.
@TheDJOblivion4 ай бұрын
That was for everyday aliens, they always busted out a m16 or saw for the boss battles, or the magic staffs.
@kimjanek6464 ай бұрын
But they didn’t use it for pistols 😉 It made sense to carry the P90 as PDW since they weren’t expecting to fight a war wherever they went.
@King.Leonidas4 ай бұрын
meh m4 carbine would have served just fine@@kimjanek646
@Mack7mle4 ай бұрын
@@BasedPatriot-USA Goa'uld Kree
@mcardenas8594 ай бұрын
I tested both pistol and carbine back in 2000 for my department ,what you need is the black tip “AP” round. It went through a ballistic vest with no problem
@K1Kamikaze3 ай бұрын
SS190. all the rounds he is testing are very anemic. elite ammunition and vanguard go 2400fps from the 4.7 in barrel vs the 1700fps hes using
@ShadowLancer1283 ай бұрын
Right, of course the AP ammunition is going to penetrate more than the standard round. Same exact thing could be said about 10mm Auto: get the .10AP and you'll punch through a bulletproof vest no problem. The video makes it very clear that the lack of any significant or noticeable damage from the 5.7 impact is very concerning for anyone carrying 5.7 in public.
@Slow2.03 ай бұрын
@@ShadowLancer128 go look at elite ammunition s4 ammo.
@Slow2.03 ай бұрын
@@ShadowLancer128 elite ammo s4 goes straight through level 3a at 2400 fps from a 5 inch barrel vs this at 1700 fps. The temporary cavity between 700 fps is quite literally pistol vs rifle.
@kiro2532 ай бұрын
@@ShadowLancer128nah not even 10mm AP bullet can do what a real 5,7 AP bullet can do...these guns almost got banned for a reason lol
@kevinc94163 ай бұрын
Love the evolution of everyone. You humor is a God send. Great Work!!!
@QBDLettuce4 ай бұрын
Despite this performance, I still wouldn't mind a Part 2 where you try shooting the 5.7 at various kinds of armor and maybe even different types of cover, and compare it to some other calibers.
@ShastaBean4 ай бұрын
Sadly they are using garbage ammo here. Speer ruined their Gold Dot in 5.7 when it comes to using a pistol.
@Romanus-4 ай бұрын
@@ShastaBeanwhat ammo do you run for 5.7?
@ShastaBean4 ай бұрын
@@Romanus- I've tested a fair amount of it, and sadly have lost confidence in factory loads. I post the videos of results I've had. Big companies are nerf'ing it and the boutique sellers have been inconsistent...so I'm working on coming up with my own loads. Lots of options in that regard. I currently carry the 2020 Speer Gold Dot (after crimping them all). That round did perfectly in my gel test. It used to have cycling issues however, in the PS90 feeding system. ...but if I had to buy new factory ammo and they have their act straightened out I'd be using the Vanguard 36 gr GPM, and/or the R&R; either the 30 gr (Cutting Edge Raptor bullets) and/or the 37 gr X (Maker bullet). All are unavailable last I checked a few days ago. AAC has the (slightly) fastest 40 gr VMAX but have seen some what look like case-sizing issues that some have had, in the ROCK, ironically.
@wolf-eat-tiger4 ай бұрын
@@ShastaBeanyea the aac ran like shit in my ruger fifty seven as well. I just carry fn ammo for now. I’ve been very disappointed with the market lately for 5.7 ammo and am debating selling my Ruger
@shizukaryujoukai24654 ай бұрын
@@ShastaBean every commercial 5.7 in America is neutered intentionally. Maybe we'd see better results with some of the fun ammo from gunbroker. I have a 5.7 but I certainly wouldn't carry it for the sole fact that I can't afford the fun ammo.
@lingje47754 ай бұрын
Not only does the beefy 9mm quickly degrade wrist stability, it also blows the lung out of the body
@olivertb19904 ай бұрын
Elitist level of joke
@ArchangelGR224 ай бұрын
Oh yeah and if it can do that to the lungs imagine what it can do to the stoamach.
@IsThatMikiko4 ай бұрын
@@ArchangelGR22it can make you a delicious meal? man i need some more 9mm if it can cook me a hamburger
@ReinhardSchuster4 ай бұрын
Only in Sleepily Joe's universe.
@Cartoon91S4 ай бұрын
Great you’re one of them. 9mm girlie. 9mm are so cheeks. I’d take a 5.7 over a 9mm all day.
@rgracia6114 ай бұрын
“Raw milk” had me rollin. 😂😂😂
@jimbos5.7x28Ай бұрын
As someone who has been shot by both 9mm and 5.7 and lived I can attest to them both making for a shitty recovery time. I can't tell you too much about this first incident but I can tell you for whatever reason the 9mm was a numb airy feeling hit with like the kind of pain you get from a firecracker going off in your hand or a hard smack from someone (mixed with adrenaline)...until I got to ER then the pain was def showing itself (hit once in the upper quad on right leg). The time I was hit by a 5.7 in the shoulder I will never forget. I was schobberknock drunk walking home from the bars in downtown Indianapolis (Broadripple) at about 2:30am when I was hit by a 5.7 round smack in my right shoulder right through my leather jacket intended for someone else in a drive by as I was walking thru the worst shady alley I could have picked just to get back to my apartment faster. The pain I felt from that MF was searing hot and super intense. It felt like what I imagine having a red hot stick of rebar slammed into your shoulder. I remember initially grabbing at it fumbling to make the pain stop like when you do when you burn the hell out of yourself to no avail. I actually ran myself to the police station a few streets away to get help. The 5.7 wound bled out more as well idk why but unlike the 9mm it went all the way thru my muscle and shoulder bone and out the other side. What sucked more? That's hard to say but what hurt more was the 5.7 without a doubt.
@rizza2121Ай бұрын
I've been shot with 9mm in the leg thru & thru flesh wound i didn't even go to the hospital but it did burn lik hell tho
@rkjeffery777Ай бұрын
You bled more because of the alcohol. It's a blood thinner.
@jimbos5.7x28Ай бұрын
@@rkjeffery777 Yeah for sure it was the liquor.
@MrMannyhw29 күн бұрын
Thanks for letting us know not to be hit with a 5.7
@Hughjaoses876615 күн бұрын
No you didn't
@StephenSD-P253 ай бұрын
I love all of these videos, but damn I've missed you Charlie!
@powwowken27604 ай бұрын
I love that the closing arguments is basically just: "It's a bullet, and bullets f**k people up, so it'll f**k you up"
@billbrasky75404 ай бұрын
I want a full version of Charlie explaining the different parts and functions of the human bodies. He did just finally become a doctor after all. I felt like I was actually learning something.
@jimrustle6434 ай бұрын
I was legit pissed when papa flannel cut him off at that point
@chadnordstromvisuals4 ай бұрын
As a medical professional, I’d watch that.
@Ram-bone4 ай бұрын
They should upload that as it's own video
@mAKtre474 ай бұрын
I want the "raw milk" story.... i knew it
@Metalrogue28 күн бұрын
I saw a post on X from S&W about 5.7 pistols this morning and realized I don't know anything about 5.7 pistols. So I went to KZbin and punched in 5.7 pistols and this was the first video. I knew I would get the straight dope here. Been following for so long and have received so much valuable insight from plate carriers to movement to contact. Once again great video, informative and entertaining. It's like being back in the army where "shooting the shit" with old school NCOs turns into some great "hip pocket " training.
@JonathanLittle0014 ай бұрын
Forged in fire reference... i was thinkingbit from the beginning of this 1 video, thanks for delivering😂
@alejandrogonzales70224 ай бұрын
Met some BELSOF guys a few years ago. They said the 5.7 pistols were great if youre shooting someone 100m away and they're wearing armor, but it just whipped through people in the GWOT. The ammo was hard to come by and they couldn't "borrow" from anyone else. They missed their Browning HP. The "bloop" at the 13:32 mark was hilarious.
@jimmartin25484 ай бұрын
Hahah so good 13:28 better time stamp if you want to jump to and hear it
@gdsrj9244 ай бұрын
It's my service pistol as well and I confirm this. It's great for "long range" for a pistol. 50m distance is really easy. The accuracy is stunning but if you have smaller hands it is also not that to grip
@bunk954 ай бұрын
What the shooting for?
@inferninx4 ай бұрын
I mean it wasn’t really designed for a handgun in the first place. The p90 in full auto was a really controllable bullet hose that had a deep magazine. Dump 10-15 rounds that zip through someone in a quick burst and they’re not getting back up. They just happened to make a compatible handgun so that you could have ammo commonality between PDW and a handgun. Carry more of the same Ammo since it’s small and light.
@raifsevrence4 ай бұрын
@@inferninx It's the story that everybody should know by now unless they're new to firearms in general. The P90, though awkward for many, would still be really easy to use for military personnel that qualify once with a service rifle and pretty much never use one again in their entire career. The sort of thing you can give to such people or have within easy access for such people who are in or near combat zones where the proverbial shit could potentially and unexpected hit the fan. With the common example being oh shit there's russians parachuting into this camp that is a hundred miles or more behind any front line combat zone. Not necessarily a bad concept, but realistically one that introduces a platform which has very little practical or effective value for combat personnel and one which introduces unnecessary logistical requirements. Pistols and pistol caliber platforms really don't make much sense in the grand scheme of things. Everybody would be better off if the various institutions adopted more rigorous training and skills maintenance regimes. Take all those people that are enlisted, but for all intents and purposes, non-combatants and make them attain and maintain real proficiency with the existing platforms.
@alvinwoods6394 ай бұрын
"It seems to do exactly what all the other bullets we've tested done.... which is they will fuck you up".... That my friends is the internet Gold Standard right there. Outstanding!
@thecursed012 ай бұрын
but does 5.7 scream FREEDOM when you shoot it? no. it just..waffles out of the barrel...
@tylerleteff43644 ай бұрын
Man your channel is great! I really like this comparison and the ballistic dummy. I agree with most of your point on 9mm and 5.7x28. They are both pistol rounds so both are a compromise from the get go. I only compare the 2 on their performance from a handgun because 5.56 SBR is a better option over a 5.7 or 9mm PCC. 5.7 will never do more damage than 9mm. 5.7 will always have a higher mag capacity, lower recoil, faster follow up shots, and better accuracy at further ranges. IMO it all comes down to the damage done and if 9mm does enough damage to justify using it even though 5.7 has the previously mentioned advantages. On the flip side for 5.7 to even be in the argument it has to do at least enough damage to be effective. I like the ammunition choices but there are many more 5.7 ammunition choices. Some that reach 2400 fps from a 5 inch barrel. Like elite ammunition’s 27 gr S4 using the same projectile as FN 198lf. Also elite ammunition also makes fragmenting and solid core penetrating rounds all loaded really hot. If a 5.7 handgun can deal even 2/3 the damage as a 9mm with any available load IMO with all the other added benefits it would take the cake. Right now I believe these loads can deal close to equal the damage as the best 9mm self defense loads. With the boom in 5.7 popularity I’d expect that within 10 years we get some 5.7 commercially available loads that match these specially loads. Then 5.7 will be considered better in a handgun for self defense
@Spikeelsucko2 ай бұрын
honestly many of the rounds already available have impressive paper performance, you dont really have to wait 10 years if you dont want to- but in 10 years theres definitely going to be interesting things going on
@jacobcyr84324 ай бұрын
if i could spend 10 minutes with all these guys it would be the best 10 minutes of my life. They always know how to have fun while still being really safe with the firearms.
@spartan117gw4 ай бұрын
Handgun round that identifies as a rifle round 👀
@FELiPES1014 ай бұрын
lmao but a good way to put it
@matthewfitzgerald70614 ай бұрын
trans...caliber??
@DonutVIP4 ай бұрын
Really blows the lungs out now
@RXYSKII4 ай бұрын
💀💀💀@@DonutVIP
@spartan117gw4 ай бұрын
@@zack9912000 obviously it's for the p90 but it has characteristics of a miniaturized rifle round. Lol
@Fox_Mortus4 ай бұрын
I'd love to see MP7 vs P90 ballistic performance. They have very similar mythos associated with them.
@callmeasshole4 ай бұрын
I would say he would be hard pressed to get his hands on an MP7 but he got an AN-94 so....
@crisnmaryfam73444 ай бұрын
mp7 is trash though.
@crisnmaryfam73444 ай бұрын
Sorry it IS amazing in the videa games, but IRL its wonky trash.
@bradhaines31424 ай бұрын
they were both designed for exactly the same contract. its really interesting how it worked out.
@lucagul16834 ай бұрын
The funny thing is that the 4.7×28 is the civilian variant and the military is using 4.6×30 and that is a big change in performance. We tested it once in the Army
@Johnny59074 ай бұрын
What the heck man you lit me up when comparing those rounds. My feelings
@kylespeaks74012 ай бұрын
Helpful video. Thanks guys.
@paullane74894 ай бұрын
I’m no expert and I’ve never even shot a 5.7. But I’d assume it really shines in the P90 on full auto with the 50 round mags and armor piercing bullets. That’s what I think it was really designed for. SMG, up close and personal against armor. It would work very well there I believe.
@Berm_Blaster4 ай бұрын
I agree 💯
@jefferyboring44104 ай бұрын
I figured it to be a cut down .556 literally that’s pretty much it right.
@LordTrashcanRulez4 ай бұрын
5.7's only real niche is natural armor piercing capabilities
@trev9704 ай бұрын
Agreed. Brokeboys can also opt for a "switch " device on the 5.7 with a drum mag and a extended barrel I'm sure the hood will love that build. 🛑🛑JK🛑🛑 In all seriousness fedbois wouldn't like that at all please take this as a joke😂
@Romanus-4 ай бұрын
@@trev970def just got on a list lol
@TheColosiss4 ай бұрын
Charlie is too funny! Thank goodness he is okay and getting better. Hopefully, he wont have any further issues and has more luck going forward.
@maxscott33494 ай бұрын
I'd imagine he is, what kind of blood clot could survive 7 redbulls
@AtLeastDaddyD4 ай бұрын
@@maxscott3349doctor said he will poop it out, he will be fine
@zacharync30663 ай бұрын
Who else has came back now that they are going to be buying a PSA M5.7 lol
@robertfuller771329 күн бұрын
I have only seen one comment about the atrocity committed by a P.O.S. at Ft. Hood on Nov. 20, 2009. I pray we have not forgotten those fallen and wounded. The weapon was the FN Five-Seven loaded with civilian FNH SS197SR 40 gr. V-MAX cartridge. Of the 13 killed, 6 were shot in the chest (with 4 likely as they were charging the shooter), 1 in abdomen, 1 to the head, and 1 with no description of wound. Of the 30 wounded, 5 were shot in the back (2 twice), 2 were shot in chest and back. All shots taken at self-defense distances. Essentially all shots to the chest (i.e., center mass/thoracic cavity) were fatal. I think that speaks very well of the round's capability and when you take into account the extremely low recoil and extra round capacity, it may be a better option than 9mm. The 5.7x28 doesn't make impressive entry and exit wounds, but the right round does significant internal damage. Out of the PS-90, that performance can extend to 150-200 yards.
@tbjtbj478616 күн бұрын
It been a long time since I read about that shooting. But didn't he use 2 guns the 5.7x28 and a 357 mag? And of the people that died most were shot with the 357 not the 5.7x28?
@robertfuller771316 күн бұрын
@@tbjtbj4786 First, compare the two weapons: 1) "Older" .357 magnum revolver: I cannot find anything about which model, but let's assume 6-round cylinder, significant recoil, slow & frequent reload required. 2) FN Five-seven: Fed from 20-round magazine, very light, controllable recoil, fast follow-up shots, fast reload; according to gun store employees that assisted in the purchase it was chosen because it had one of the highest magazine capacities. Inside the building, 146 rounds were fired, 60% finding their target. Outside another 68 rounds fired with 40% hit ratio. 214 total rounds fired killing 13 (plus an unborn child) and wounding 32. No indications the .357 was fired. The P.O.S. was hit 5 times by 9mm and though paralyzed from neck down, survived. Here is a link to an excellent source on the incident, even keeping the source/website in perspective: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting Make you own determination and choices, but if there was a 5.7x28 small enough to carry concealed, I would be packing it. If it gets to where I will be continually wearing some big iron on my hip, it will be the S&W M&P 5.7: 22-round magazine, almost no recoil, and a round that (in my opinion) has more than proven itself.
@thekerr87284 ай бұрын
I’m glad Charles is all bundled up. Wouldn’t want the little guy getting cold out there.
@joecentral-o998428 күн бұрын
Just as I saw.your comment, he buttons up his coat fully 😂
@forrest4164 ай бұрын
I’m just so glad that Charlie is back! I’ve never seen someone heal as fast as him! I mean, c’mon, he had the worst case of hemorrhoids/poison ivy that I’ve ever witnessed! He’s a real trooper! Rock on Charlie
@JohnRussellViral4 ай бұрын
I thought it was parasitic hemorrhoid's
@itsMBWAAA4 ай бұрын
Thanks to that rawwwww milk
@rodfolds35244 ай бұрын
Charlie is a real man, not like David Hogg!
@danielcurtis14344 ай бұрын
You understand a hemorrhoid and poison oak are two different things? Not sure how one could cause the other there’s a story here???
@forrest4164 ай бұрын
@@danielcurtis1434 I’m a backwoods redneck from Maine- I’m quite aware of what they are, and their differences. As far as how someone ends up on deaths bed, with both, is a story for Charlie to tell. Godspeed Charlie
@CiiDisabledGang4 ай бұрын
As a one arm Glock KZbinr, that is an enthralling round 🔥🙌🏾
@Nate_the_Nobody2 ай бұрын
4:01 BROOOOO WE NEED A FULL REVIEW OF THE STEYR! Shit is a unicorn that nobody knows about but it's one of the best 9mm's out there
@waynedowney76164 ай бұрын
The round was designed to defeat a kevlar helmet at 100 yds. A very specific use case, but yeah, without a tungsten penetrator cored bullet, and on an unarmored target, it isn't great compared to 9mm. Also, glad Charlie is back. Love how he is picking through the dead dummy and putting pieces in his pocket.
@slickdaddy32414 ай бұрын
I own a Five seveN, actually the same exact model GT is using. I arrived at the conclusion based on my own testing years ago that 5.7, for civilians is really actually pretty pointless unless you got some SS190 penetrators laying around. You are better off going with 9mm to be honest and if you really want to pierce soft body armor theres better options for that. Like 7.62x25 tokarev. Theres a cool video of James Reeves seriously penetrating a level 3 plate with a Five seveN using SS190. That's plate is meant to stop 7.62x39 and it went through it. Pretty impressive, but since we cant get SS190... again it's pretty pointless for civilians I'm afraid.
@africanpenguin32824 ай бұрын
I could never justify the price for one. It just felt insanely overpriced for a high pressure 22 magnum with a chonky plastic frame.@@slickdaddy3241
@jonathanlucas86234 ай бұрын
Had a friend that got shot in Dallas by 5.7 definitely fucked him up all the same so ide say a bullets a bullet at the end of the day cause I promise you ain't taking a shot from it and walking around like it's a mosquito bite. Yes he didn't die but he said it hurt all the same.
@corkbulb28954 ай бұрын
As far as I know, the 5.7x28 round was in fact designed to defeat *old design* kevlar body armor that became standard issue to Russian infantry in 1989. Back then, the armor was *barely* enough to stop 9x19 and .45 ACP rounds. The US military primarily used MP5s chambered in 9x19mm for rear line and support troops. The main concern was that Russia could drop paratroopers behind NATO lines and the troops would be unable to stop them! Real scare there! Anyway, the 5.7 and P90 were designed as a PDW for rear line and support troops and could defeat old design kevlar armor used the the 1980s-1990s. Nowadays body armor has gotten much better and the 5.7x28 round is just obsolete.
@ProvidenceXIV4 ай бұрын
@@corkbulb2895 You're mostly right but I have no clue where you got the idea that the US widely issued MP5s to rear echelon troops. That isn't true at all.
@joyroc8854 ай бұрын
The raw milk then needle to the aim joke had me laughing more then I probably should have.
@chirpinsquirrel87104 ай бұрын
Greg Doucette NATTY OR NOT!
@Jessersadler4 ай бұрын
pretty sure it's "Melk"
@rickshaw33974 ай бұрын
@@chirpinsquirrel8710are we all watching the same content?
@cheahyeah71344 ай бұрын
@@rickshaw3397im not chirpinsquirrel8710 but yes
@smeagolmazurenko52383 ай бұрын
Supraphysiological doses of raw milk.
@christopherg4659 күн бұрын
Great video as always!
@rabbitquesada58373 ай бұрын
First time I’ve seen one of your vids. Instant follow
@l3joint4 ай бұрын
We need to do long range sniping vs ballistic dummies already!
@corbinsc364 ай бұрын
yes
@donniglesias30734 ай бұрын
Yes
@CodeBlueOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Yes
@XUncleBossX4 ай бұрын
Yup
@douglassinclaire99684 ай бұрын
yes
@jtarrence294 ай бұрын
Charlie is hilarious. Air quotes “raw milk” had me cracking up @9:06
@Not_Genie4 ай бұрын
“Raw” “milk 💪 💉”
@darrellterry81213 ай бұрын
These guys did a wonderful presentation of comparison of different rounds, but the only problem I have with this is, they’ll say all that about the 57 round until you get shot with it
@bawithawng7020Ай бұрын
Love the breakdown and the way you buy the viewers… nothing but love
@Random-th7wm4 ай бұрын
Would have been cool to test against some soft armor and see how true the "armor piercing" abilities of 5.7 actually are
@sidfernandez12324 ай бұрын
You can’t buy the real ap round as civilians
@professorgoat10994 ай бұрын
check out Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. for videos on different 5.7 ammunitions types of different targets/armor.
@sidfernandez12324 ай бұрын
@@bernardbockwurst where?? Are you talking the actual armor piercing round? I’d like a link. Just for educational purposes of course
@Myboybrute4 ай бұрын
Actually you can purchase the AP round, however you have to buy from overseas and expect upwards of $300 a box, so there is that
@mrlegodude96alt24 ай бұрын
@@sidfernandez1232 both Elite Ammunition and Vanguard Outfitters sell a more "affordable" custom made AP round designed around pistol length barrels
@stabbinfatties94894 ай бұрын
I low key think Charlie is the smartest guy out there. It isn't easy constantly popping off jokes of that caliber on the fly.
@LeSanglierQuiRit4 ай бұрын
Evidently you’ve never been in the infantry. Everybody’s a comedian.
@mynameisjeff69884 ай бұрын
i think he tries a bit TOO hard. Theyre not great jokes, just military shock humor
@pauperslament34674 ай бұрын
5.7 caliber?
@cleveland22864 ай бұрын
@@mynameisjeff6988 they're intentionally bad, they're funny because of how bad they are.
@OmniBedlam4 ай бұрын
@@mynameisjeff6988 that's exactly the point
@hoosiercarry114915 күн бұрын
I reload for the 5.7 x 28mm and trust me, it's a wicked round when loading it the way it was meant to be loaded......HOT at 22-2300fps from a pistol!
@Babiboy996 күн бұрын
Mind sharing your grain count ?
@RunningClothesline2 ай бұрын
New to these videos. I want to point out that just because a round stops in the gel and doesn't blow everything apart is exactly the point. You want the bullet to stop in the target, so you're less worried about what's behind the target. You don't want a home defense weapon whose bullets exit the burglar and then your whole house.
@soupcangaming6624 ай бұрын
As someone who absolutely loves the FN57, I'd love to see a comparison against armor.
@SpaceMissile4 ай бұрын
yeah, that's like the main benefit of it iirc. weird they didn't do that.
@spyrothedragon50574 ай бұрын
Same, I've heard a lot about it being a really good armor piercing round, kinda disappointing that they didn't test it out with armor.
@jamarrchasingjoe33104 ай бұрын
@@SpaceMissileIsn't the actual AP ammo for it military only? I'd imagine that's why
@SpaceMissile4 ай бұрын
@@jamarrchasingjoe3310 you make a fine point
@poundz9oh94 ай бұрын
Or the T6B's and BDF's
@NICOTHATKID4 ай бұрын
I thought the 5.7 was intended to defeat soft armor lvl 3, even with just regular fmj. Would of been interesting to see 9m vs 5.7 on soft armor.
@arcticfox51184 ай бұрын
Yes but that is with actual AP ammo. I saw another channel a couple years back do a side by side with AP and standard 5.7. The AP 5.7 ripped through the soft armor. The standard however did worse then the 9mm and the 9mm with a solid round sailed right through the armor anyway. And keep in mind you basically CANT get the AP 5.7 anymore. You can buy the brass solids from pretty much any firearms store.
@bicbonk5304 ай бұрын
I thought that as well
@secessionnow41334 ай бұрын
No level 2 body armor. Which nobody uses it anymore not even Mexican police
@gigshare39474 ай бұрын
5.7 was the response to Soviet titanium-included body armor
@roflchopter114 ай бұрын
@@arcticfox5118brass solid 9mm?
@HeavyHittahsEntertainment11 күн бұрын
Man I have watched this video like 40x’s I love the commentary, I have the 5.7 S&W I honestly feel like this would be a dope ballistic test, I’m definitely looking for those Alpha rounds at the next gun show.. Great Content guys but I would personally love to see a vid with the s&w 5.7 I think it’s a better pistol
@nicholasschneider20563 ай бұрын
This is quality content thank you. I like this channel.
@TRevroN91srfsktnsnw4 ай бұрын
The chaos that Charlie brings to the team is appreciated.
@nickadkins77654 ай бұрын
And it's also needed 😌 love me some Charles
@fadedlogic14 ай бұрын
he IS Chaos Incarnate
@mrt2this6074 ай бұрын
Yes, we want that cut-take on digestional organ explanation perhaps more so then a review of a pcc that very few find desirable.
@TRevroN91srfsktnsnw4 ай бұрын
@@mrt2this607 Unironically so
@johnman86474 ай бұрын
It's great to see a firearms channel that is creatively entertaining while maintaining it's technical education roots. Learning a lot!
@johnathonkeith414213 күн бұрын
Aww man I was looking forward to his different sdi definitions
@KittenOfDeath773 ай бұрын
Love seeing y'all use a Steyr. My M9-A1 just passed 8k rounds without a failure.
@mattkettering90833 ай бұрын
Came down to post a similar comment. I have the M40-A1 and love it. Also a bonus that I feel like Robocop when I use it
@watvannou4 ай бұрын
It's a little insane the amount of "naa you can walk that off, it's a tiny hole" I don't think I'd be able to walk off any bullet to pretty much any part of me. Maybe I'm just not built from adamantium like these guys. I missed Charlie, such a funny guy!!
@brandondavis43064 ай бұрын
depends on if your adrenaline is going. also In 1899, a group of Moro tribesmen in the Philippines took umbrage toward a United States occupation force in the southern islands, thereby initiating what became known as the Moro Rebellion. The Moros were fierce fighters, with a reputation of resistance toward any outside rule. Officers in the U.S. force were armed with Colt Model 1892 revolvers chambered in .38 Long Colt, a cartridge that originated the blackpowder era. The load at the time featured a 150-grain lead round-nose bullet launched at 750 f.p.s. using smokeless powder. Muzzle energy was 201 ft.-lbs., about the same energy as a .380 ACP with a 90-grain bullet. The Moros were reputed to tie themselves up with strips of vegetation from the jungles to prevent excessive bleeding and ingested locally made drugs to block the pain from wounds. Engagements involving the Colt double-action Model 1892 often resulted in the officer being killed or severely wounded by these motivated Moro juramentados. This prompted the War Department to launch the Thompson-LaGarde Tests of 1904. As expected, the rather grisly tests showed the .38 Long Colt significantly lacking in the power needed to stop a determined assailant.
@brandondavis43064 ай бұрын
This is how and why the .45 acp was invented.
@jokiejoker20114 ай бұрын
You might surprise yourself with how tough you can be when it’s root hog or die
@TheTotallyRealXiJinping4 ай бұрын
You’d be surprised, never sell yourself short! The human body and mind is stronger than we will ever give it credit for, me included
@twistedyogert4 ай бұрын
@@brandondavis4306 That's why the .38 special was developed.
@Assdafflabaff4 ай бұрын
I thought the whole point of this round was that it was better than 9mm at penetrating armor, and the low recoil meant it was great in sub-machineguns. Figured you'd try it against some kevlar or plates.
@Asghaad4 ай бұрын
because it is ... level 3A armor that can stop 9mm and the point was to give rear echelon, vehicle crews and officers small package fully automatic "personal deffense weapon" with low weight, high ammo capacity and good enough penetration to go through SOFT body armor. Noone ever expected it to be able to beat hard frontline armor
@newerest14 ай бұрын
@@AsghaadI wouldn't even argue that was the main goal of the NATO trials, they were looking to standardize the sidearm as well as replace 9mm. The 5.7's role in PDWs was second to that.
@Assdafflabaff4 ай бұрын
@@Asghaad Yeah soft body armor like kevlar like I said. Just thought since it's going to be a video testing 5.7 that they might actually do a test through the p90 against armor and compare it to 9mm.
@mynameisjeff69884 ай бұрын
@@Assdafflabaff It was good for its role 15 years ago. nowadays people do not run any armor that would be penetrated by 5.7, so there is zero reason for it to be as popular as it is. if you want to pierce level 3a for some reason, just use AP 9mm like the russians have or run one of the many lightweight 9mm loadings that can pen the same armor. G9 defense, Liberty, and fort scott all make 70-90 grain loads that will pen 3a and be twice the weight of 5.7
@WastelandWanderer12164 ай бұрын
The Russian 9mm AP is loaded extremely hot from what I heard and I doubt NATO would consider it for anything less than a SMG and rumor is that the ammo is really hammering the Vityaz SMGs hard.
@jordanengland9283 ай бұрын
Love watching these videos in class
@SemperBadBear26 күн бұрын
I loved the FN Fiveseven. I was slapping 10" steel plates at 100yd all day. Gave me a lot of confidence and I felt like a better marksman than I really am haha.
@shazamshazamski4 ай бұрын
The FN firearms chambered in 5.7X28 were primarily designed around the SS-190 ammo. Designed specifically to penetrate SBA. So standard pistol cartridges will be better for EDC.
@JurassicJolts4 ай бұрын
Unless your target has SBA
@nemoexnuqual36434 ай бұрын
On one hand you can buy 3A SBA for dirt cheap these days, some as low as $45/panel so SBA is far more common. On the other hands Mr. Guns N Gear tested that $45 armor panel and it stopped EVERY pistol and shotgun round sent at it including commercially available 5.7mm. It even “stopped” (technically) a .500S&W and .460 although it dragged the armor into the target. The 5.7 armor piercing isn’t really available to us, however the 5.7 has some other really nice attributes that have come up in Paul Harrel videos.
@zacharycox20144 ай бұрын
Even with increased magazine capacity, accuracy, and reduced recoil?
@quayshawndameron13494 ай бұрын
@@zacharycox2014 but what does it mean when you have minimal damage.
@infogunvault69204 ай бұрын
Standard 5.7 defensive ammo is made specifically to do well at penetration and causing damage. So use defensive expanding ammo for defensive purposes. Unless of course, the criminals wear body armor in your locale.
@echo5delta4 ай бұрын
Carried a FN Five Seven as my duty backup for about 15 years. It was nice having a 20 round and 30 round mag and it was super light. I kept it in a closed pouch off hand side on my gun belt. That muzzle flash at night was insane.
@a-t53804 ай бұрын
May I ask what was your proffesion
@dutchlogitechclan4 ай бұрын
@@a-t5380 Car mechanic
@TarsilyWasTaken4 ай бұрын
lucky guy, i'm sad everything is transitioning to glock 47 as someone who really doesn't like glocks
@JadedJet4 ай бұрын
Cap
@a-t53804 ай бұрын
@@dutchlogitechclan lmao.. yall crazy
@wickityb12324 ай бұрын
This is the second vid watching you. Already subscribed
@richarde1355Ай бұрын
The countryside background looks like where I grew up in NE Nevada; it was so awesome with minimal driving I could be out shooting where no one cared.
@jurban79984 ай бұрын
The vids haven't been the same. The return of charlie makes it whole again. I love primary arms. I don't even put irons on my 3x microprism boomstick. I recommend them to everyone. Please don't muzzle Charlie
@JanJansen9854 ай бұрын
I didnt read microprism the first time lol
@StreetRocketJoe4 ай бұрын
I’m so glad Charlie is back. He really ties everything together. 😊
@evanbohn4 ай бұрын
He is the pissed on rug to Micah's The Dude. (GT is Walter, Admin is Donny.)
@the.living.man.4 ай бұрын
@@evanbohnAdmin is out of his element.
@danielimbriaco3917Ай бұрын
love primary arms had a problem recently with take down pins from them and they cleared up the problem no questions asked seriously and you dont have to talk to a robot on the phone like some other companys love them
@zackstockton38794 ай бұрын
It’ll be cool to see how it performs against a plate as opposed to nine mill but solid test thank you guys
@markcmann4 ай бұрын
Nothing more hilarious then watching Mike’s reaction to Charlie’s off the wall comments. 😄
@jolier13134 ай бұрын
"You're such a buzzkill sometimes on these videos, dude.." 😂😂😂
@blackdevildog64164 ай бұрын
I'd love to see you guys test 5.7x28 against SafeLife Defense's Level IIIA+, which they CLAIM can stop newer SBA-piercing ammo including 5.7x28 out of an FN 5.7 pistol.
@NickFrom12284 ай бұрын
Several IIIA armor choices will stop 5.7 but many will not. I think one of the important considerations is how much energy is left for terminal performance after it makes it through. The 5.7 is in my opinion a good one for this if you can only carry a pistol but for armor, a rifle is definitely better. They are just a little hard to tuck into your holster.
@thehamburglur71823 ай бұрын
I worked as a 911 operator and took a call from someone about a suspicious person outside their house. Moments later I heard gunfire and the guy I was on the phone with said, “oh damn, I just got shot in the back two times. Hold on right quick I gotta call my girl.” It’s like he barely felt it.
@genin6917 күн бұрын
can we just appreciate how valuable charlie is to this channel.. what a hoot
@BrandonWatkinsBmW132944 ай бұрын
I'd love to see the round vs armor. I feel like this is one of the glorified myths about this round, and should be touched on here.
@nathancomalander44174 ай бұрын
So a few toobers have tried the pen rounds v armor .. on one test with a pistol not ps90 the only rounds that could pen 3a armor were ss190 and ss198lf ( green tip ss195lf with slightly more powder) could pen the 3a soft armor. Even normal fmj was doing well if i recall. But when it comes to rifle rated plates lvl 4 its not going through
@BlackDeath-gx1wr4 ай бұрын
@@nathancomalander4417 Yeah, I've seen some of those as well. The round is goofy but will keeeeell
@fw2k4 ай бұрын
well, most test i have seen on youtube always counts on the plate catching the bullets, i dunno if most care for a real test of the rest of the protection. As i dunno if this would take out "real" plates. By real i mean not just scrap metal plates. lol
@ZeroXSEED4 ай бұрын
What myth. It was advertised and feared for being penetrative against soft armor, which most concealed armor are. That was back when it become popular, though. Concealed armor these days could get pretty hefty. Even hard level III would shit on it.
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE4 ай бұрын
🤣 Garand Thumb: insults everyone about being unable to handle 9mm due to more recoil ALSO Garand Thumb: immediately proceeds to be less accurate than desired due to self-professed increased recoil... Priceless humor! ♥️ Never change, guys... 😊
@rustycann68874 ай бұрын
9mm has recoil ? says the magnum revolver guy
@johndunbar2363 ай бұрын
i would love to see a comparison of the 5.7 in a pistol vs a rifle.
@drusexton3 ай бұрын
I happened across this video. Great coverage but I am like hey for a 40 grain bullet it’s impressive what the 5.7 can do in comparison to the 130 grain 9mm. Personally I think if you want the no doubt heart stopper go for the 10mm, or 45. So for self defense your best bet is a heart stopper. For survival what is best? I would say for survival it’s a 9mm PCC that accepts Glock mags because it’s most common. Finding ammo and mags would be easier than most others. If ammo is infinite and the 5.7 did indeed replace the 9mm as the most common cartridge it would be superior for survival due to the light weight and ability to carry more ammo. I feel like stopping power might be less important than efficiency so hell maybe the .22 is best for its portability, availability. Something I would like to see is the comparison of this round vs the heart stoppers shooting at moving targets. How does it perform in a run ‘n gun scenario? For shooting down a drone, etc. You’ve got a new fan gentleman!
@montecarlo31644 ай бұрын
Man that 5’10 vs 6ft comparison hit me pretty hard 🤣🤣🤣
@letsdothis90633 ай бұрын
Same. Didn't know I was a manlet.😢
@chizorama3 ай бұрын
Me at 5'8 on skates, mini manlet... 😔
@TheCatBilbo3 ай бұрын
Yup, at 5'10" & a little bit...I've re-evaluated my whole life...😢
@montecarlo31643 ай бұрын
@@TheCatBilbo 🤣🤣
@joecentral-o998428 күн бұрын
@@chizoramaI'm built like the penguin 😂
@smokythebear97114 ай бұрын
Charlies dad advice is actually spot on (other then working for mike specifically). Dont think about how hard dropping everything and leaving is, just think of how much better your life can be once you rebuild somewhere better. I gave up my entire life, career, family and friends to leave canada and move a few hours south. 2 years of having to live apart from my wife to get the life we wanted in the place we wanted was worth every second as much as it sucked at times. If your sick of where you live, JUST LEAVE.
@Coinbro4 ай бұрын
BOSS
@Dowlphin4 ай бұрын
This is TED Talk syndrome, so to speak. Those who succeeded tell their story. Those who didn't likely don't have the opportunity or motivation to share their story, also because few people want to hear it. And usually there are also quite favorable conditions at play that push someone to make such steps. Because how else can we explain the 'criminal neglect' of the awareness of how this world is in hardmode and every attempt to improve your situation comes with a huge risk of making it even worse instead?
@sincerelyme69284 ай бұрын
@@Dowlphin You just explained risk vs reward. If you think the world is in hardmode now, what about the risk and hardships people went through before electricity, medicine, and your best bet at a better like was a 4 month boat ride followed by no support and harsh winters. You can either succumb to the fear of failure, or at least try. Therein lies the weight and value of taking a risk for a better life. People who try will fail, but some will succeed. It's up to everyman to ensure that he is in the latter camp. Fortune favors the bold, and smiles on the righteous. If it were a guarantee, why would you deserve anymore than the people who are content enough to stay stagnant and not strive for a better life? Besides the points above that can abide with every man's values and morals, if you are a Christian you have the distinct pleasure of having Jesus Christ on your side. 2 Timothy 1:7.
@Dowlphin4 ай бұрын
@@sincerelyme6928 You portray a rich buffet of folly. 1) Past times were not just missing the hardships of lowtech, but also the burdens of hightech. Technology is an externalized power trip that distracts us from our inner potential, also corrupting our understanding into redefining it as how well we work with that scheme. 2) Social darwinism, profoundly uncompassionate and thus disconnected from the really scary path - defying the eho trip of turning suffering into a game that is terrfied of the erroneously perceived prospect of there being no more problems to overcome that can inflate the egoic mind. 3) Righteousness is a low virtue, settled even below justice, which is a level that humankind is already struggling with severely. (Beyond justice then is kindness, and beyond that is integrity, and beyond that is the unfathomable way.) 4) Demonstrating utter corruption by daring to refer to Jesus in your selfish-chauvinist pursuit. You lack the humble meditative insight to interpret "For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline." properly, plus being a cherrypicking exercise since the Bible is a huge book full of varied angles to enrich our perception of the world. Make my day by showing me potential for growth. As a weary soul I don't expect it or crave it, but since I am drunk right now, I am a bit closer to divinity than usual, so I can be forgiving.
@raulthepig58213 ай бұрын
Millions of AIs agree.
@StalinBeWallin3 ай бұрын
The quality of these videos never cease to surprise me
@christianyork53854 ай бұрын
I've been collecting 5.7 ammo for a while now. I have a ruger 5.7 and a AR pistol in 5.7. Would of loved to see you shoot some ss90 or ss190 rounds. I bought a box of each at denver bullet years ago. I paid $200 for a box of 50 ss90 and $150 for the ss190. I'm too afraid to shoot them because of expense. See guys on gunbroker selling single ss190's for 10-12 dollars 😮 P.s. the 5.7 is the best coyote and bobcat round if ever used with fn blue polytips
@artsohc4 ай бұрын
Video idea…the “one caliber” challenge. You each get a rifle and pistol that fires the same round, so like Micah with the 5.7, Mike with the 9mm, Charlie with 45ACP, whatever. Then you compete in both close and distance shots. Looking for 1 caliber that can do “it all”
@henrybierman84314 ай бұрын
Brandon could guest star with fifty cal pistol and the ak 50
@M21assult4 ай бұрын
They make .30-06 pistols, so I choose that caliber.
@GillyTheGhillie4 ай бұрын
I think you're really going to struggle to find (non esoteric) calibres that perform well in both roles. Anything that's good in a pistol really isn't going to get much better with a rifle or carbine aside from a slight bump in muzzle velocity and the controllability a rifle gives you. Or you could just go mental and get a BFR chambered in 45-70 if you no longer like your wrists.
@SpaceMissile4 ай бұрын
as a ruger PCC main, I really like this idea.
@Bam812344 ай бұрын
Emt in Indianapolis here. Saw a man shot 3 times in the chest with 5.7 (pretty nice grouping too) and all 3 zipped right through him. Made a full recovery.
@Thisisahandle7014 ай бұрын
How did you find out what round he was shot with?
@Bam812344 ай бұрын
An FN 5.7 was sitting on the back of the officers car, and the suspect was in custody on scene.
@GrimmAmudiel4 ай бұрын
It's Indianapolis, we pretty much just announce what we use it's so common
@DRCS694 ай бұрын
Wonder what ammo was used.
@H8804 ай бұрын
The water drop sound effect and Charlie ripping Hawg killed me.
@livingthelife8443Ай бұрын
Modern warfare that came out around 2009 2011 the first time i seen this gun feel in love with it.
@ShastaBean4 ай бұрын
Speer neutered their Gold Dot in 5.7 x 28 after 2020. From ~1850 fps down to ~1730 fps and changed the tip (doesn't expand in clear gel w/pistol). I have video uploaded showing the difference to their ammo from 2020 to 2022. Others have been slowed down, too.
@shawnsanders94504 ай бұрын
Fucking BS that everything got slowed down while getting more expensive. Most M193 lost 100fps too.
@Kiamors4 ай бұрын
They sure know how to pinch those pennies huh?
@mrkeogh4 ай бұрын
If you're going as low as 28-grain, why not go to .17 HMR? Sure, it's only 20 grain, but it's way faster than a 5.7, like 2350fps. The 17-grain is even faster at 2650fps, and those things expand/explode on impact. Based rimfire 😗👌🏻
@GRAndreas74 ай бұрын
@@mrkeogh Would you rather have a semi auto 5" pistol in .17 instead of 5.7? It is rimmed and less powerfull. It makes no sense for this role.
@ShastaBean4 ай бұрын
@@mrkeogh The Speer Gold Dot is 40 gr, not 28. The 28 grain can be easily loaded to 2400 fps, which means your 20 grain @ 2350 is no comparison. (245 ft-lbs vs 358 ft-lbs). Just watched .17 thru chrono and it's (Norma ammo) 2700 fps from a rifle. That's 275 ft-lbs. That's less energy from a rifle, than a 5.7 x 28 using a pistol. Reasonable 5.7 loads should be 325 - 350 ft-lbs. So the same reason to not use .22 mag...because too weak and you said it yourself....rimfire.
@iRunKids4 ай бұрын
The Five-seveN was my favorite pistol in Counter-Strike 1.6 so that was the very first gun I bought when I came of age. I still have it to this day and I absolutely love it.
@VLAD.IZLAV.GAINZZ4 ай бұрын
Same bought it cause of CS. I bought some of the exotic ammo 10 years ago when was alot alot cheaper. SS190, T6B, S4M. The regular ammo you find now days is super weak.
@mcfivedad3 ай бұрын
Digging the 5.7 and 30sc for their capacity and recoil. Need to see more weapon offerings and lower ammo costs though.
@tylerwarwick79754 ай бұрын
Charles made me laugh for the whole first part of this, he's so amazing.
@G9Defense4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout! Great way to wrap a video. We're always here for the carnage! Pretty disappointed with the 5.7 performance really. Old school technology just doesn't seem to get as much out of that round. Might be something we can bring some innovation to... Saw some questions in the comments about what G9 round was used there. It was our 9mm 80gr External Hollow Point, not sure if it was +P or standard...
@Mavairsoft4 ай бұрын
you guys making a 5.7 round would be scary
@G9Defense4 ай бұрын
@@Mavairsoft 💀☠
@LuisSanchez-mh6so4 ай бұрын
Please u have to make a 5.7 round 🙏
@bobbie48624 ай бұрын
It wasn't impressive because the ammo they were using is grossly underpowered. Much of the commercial 5.7 sucks. Would love to see you guys do a full power 5.7 similar to Elite Ammunition.
@barbaramaj19194 ай бұрын
I think it is a necessity @@Mavairsoft It looks a lot better than the typical .380 offered to us of smaller stature. Can you get some .224 profile G9 projectiles to experiment with? Daddy will reload me whatever I ask for (if he has the components...)
@jcohenoutdoors4 ай бұрын
I recently added a 5.7 pistol with a red dot and a suppressor to my collection. I like it for a survival pistol for camping and hiking. It's nice when I want a bit more range but don't want to carry a rifle. A 5.7 pistol has similar capabilities as a 9mm or a .22 magnum rifle. The low recoil and lightweight ammo make it a good survival tool if you aren't expecting it to be magic.
@breedlofam4 ай бұрын
Been awhile since I've watched a GT video...dude is getting jacked. Juice or what?
@MrOliverbox4 ай бұрын
Micah and Charlie are tremendous upgrades to this channel. I’m a long time fan of The Flannel Daddy - Shout Out to the OG Poop Squad - and Charlie and Micah are hilarious.
@QwertyBoredom1224 ай бұрын
Intersting how the round at 7:18 imparted enough kenetic energy that it actually broke the table through the gel.
@alexdrockhound94974 ай бұрын
thats pretty normal for ballistics gel on those tables. I dont think ive seen a round hitting the bottom of the gel fail to break the table yet.
@a.melanoleuca22474 ай бұрын
On a different note: I love your profile pic (of Selvaria Bles). VC is my all-time favorite series.
@douglassinclaire99684 ай бұрын
hydrostatic pressure, it wasnt far from table, a very low shot. That wouldnt happen if it was a center gel shot.
@alexdrockhound94974 ай бұрын
@@douglassinclaire9968 its just regular force being applied due to the momentum of the block pushing against the table. Hydrostatic means: the equilibrium of liquids and the pressure exerted by liquid at rest. "the hydrostatic pressure of the cell", the pressure a cell contains when its just sitting there, compared to the outside pressure it exists within. The gel block is not at rest, its moving rather violently.
@tkc29954 ай бұрын
I’d hope it was a plastic table 😂
@dizzydabz69054 ай бұрын
"This looks like one of those shots you'd survive then 10 years later become a politician or some shit" gold 🤣
@SpartinWarrior952 ай бұрын
I ended up doing some training with the 5.7 and the only reason we use it as NATO is because we also use the P90 and they share the same ammo so it's just easier that way but we do also train with the colt M1911.
@smthedon1913 ай бұрын
That black fang round is crazy!!
@dylan_lewis93094 ай бұрын
I picked up the 5.7x28 for my girlfriend. She'll shoot the 9mm decently but is not very comfortable with it. She originally had a 22lr handgun but with so many downsides to rimfire made me want to upgrade her handgun. The 5.7x28 does have a very light felt recoil and with 22 rounds on board it's hard to fault.
@blantant4 ай бұрын
Was thinking of doing the same since there are very few full size 380s. Only issue is I don't want to pay for 5.7
@kiwigrunt3304 ай бұрын
I would have thought that ladies who struggle with 9mm are likely to have small hands. 5.7 would trade one problem for another. I known a few ladies who could not get their hands around a P226.
@dylan_lewis93094 ай бұрын
@@blantant Unfortunately the 380s are mainly small frame guns and are just as snappy as the 9mm. If you have not shot the S&W 5.7 I highly recommend giving it a try. One of the big selling points for me was the 22 round capacity as well. It's so easy to shoot fast you can put a lot of holes in something pretty darn quick.
@dylan_lewis93094 ай бұрын
@@kiwigrunt330 She's 5'10" tall and her hands are "bigger" than mine...at least overall length. I could totally see this being an issue though as the 5.7 grips are a little chunky. The felt recoil is just so much less than a 9mm it's very surprising, if you haven't had a chance to shoot one yet I highly recommend giving it a try. In reality I wish she was comfortable shooting my Glock 20 10mm with some hot Underwood ammo. She has shot it and shoots it decently well but again, she not comfortable with it. I'd rather have her be confident in shooting than have a hand cannon.
@GhostFoxvonBohmen4 ай бұрын
Which pistol did you get? Saying you have 22 rounds makes me think it might be the PSA Rock. The M&P and the Ruger only have 20rd mags as far as I know. Even if you went big and spent $1k+ on an FN FiveSeven, I think those are still only 20rds.
@EarthAltar4 ай бұрын
The David Swine remarks were savage. Keep it up. The water drop sound effects on the gut shots had me rolling. Charlie being back is awesome. Thanks for all you guys do. Making Sunday great.
@Dennisthemenace402 ай бұрын
And this is why I’m thankful for the 10mm option. And Charles, you’re awesome 😎
@TarHeelsBurks153 ай бұрын
Love the video! You two were phenomenal!! 5.7 is a ranged round where 9mm does have range capabilities however isnt a midget AR round like the 5.7! The energy potential is insane to the point Id take a 5.7 gutshot over 9mm anyday due to me believing the round would cauterize the would it creates lmao 😂😂