Polyphia Plays God With My Emotions! REACTION

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[@cataddict_]

No delay effect on the riffs this man Tim Henson is utterly deranged in his guitar skill

[@AtomicDoorknob]

Polyphia still one of the coolest bands to see live they really are just pure artists

[@PrymalChaos]

I really need to check them out!

[@K-R-O-L]

This is no delay effect like U.2 at the end, you can see him play this unplugged on Tim's channel released today :O Even more impressive

[@mkennedy319]

this

[@xNeuhTactics]

this (x2 )

[@K-R-O-L]

Nuts !

[@8BitChad]

KROL is absolutely correct. there is no delay, that's all amazing control with picking and muting that mimics a delay but it's just all natural.

[@sparda9060]

@@8BitChad geezus christ thats insane that he use a technique to create an illusion of a delay wtf.... Tim is not human, maybe an alien lol...

[@collincrim4634]

Tim did a making of for this song. And he said he writes the guitar parts with a few different instruments for this one then programmed the bass and drums and sent them to the clays and they had to learn how to adapt them into playable parts

[@joelmorningstar3645]

In your spare time listen to tim's playthrough and maybe even skip to the part you "thought" was a delay effect ;)

[@PrymalChaos]

🤨😲

[@uuabbit]

there absolutely is still a delay or reverb, altho it doesn't take away from what he's playing, there is pretty clear decay in the studio version by my ear c:

[@joelmorningstar3645]

@@uuabbit I think that what you hear and what Prymal thought he heard are different. I may be wrong though.

[@andrebaptista8284]

@@uuabbit they delay seems to be there, but its so short that it sounds like a quick echo, but its not a delay that is repeating notes making it seem like you are playing more if that makes sense. I might be totally wrong but thats what it sounds like.

[@uuabbit]

@@andrebaptista8284 sure but an echo/delay really is just repeating notes, again not to take away from what is actually being played, but i do notice delayed notes in that section. in fact after going back & listening again, i noticed you can hear the tail-end of the delay when the full band stops for the electronic outro bit

[@JazzcrankMYFHC]

The intro was his album 4 teaser which was released 2 years ago. So a lot of us were so excited when we herd the full song finally release. But saying that a lot of people had already tabbed out the intro and after a few days of the full song release we have full covers. The fan base is crazy.

[@sparda9060]

well they got 2 years to guess what tim will create and they had 2 years of anticipation and prep for the full song. But its a lot easier now to collaborate with people around the world now with social media and chat apps like discord or forum websites like reddit.

[@BinkyTheToaster]

What's wild is that the chord progression from the start of the bossa nova part to the outro stays consistent. You can even whistle the melody over Tim's arpeggios at the end and it fits. By arpeggiating the chords it helps further reinforce the melody as notes from the melodic line are present in the arpeggiated chord line and match with the timing of the melody. It reminds the listener that there's really a melody there, and helps untrained listeners recognize this fact. Even if it's not present in total, there's enough that you hear the whole thing anyway, possibly without even realizing it.

[@PrymalChaos]

In the words of Lisa Simpson. “You have to listen to the notes they’re NOT playing!”

[@BinkyTheToaster]

@@PrymalChaos I really enjoyed your breakdown of the mechanics of nylon strings and the way they flipped the script with the complex articulation/simple melodic moments. That kind of analysis and breakdown are what feed the algorithm, FWIW. Best of luck with the channel!

[@PrymalChaos]

@@BinkyTheToaster Thanks mate! I appreciate you watching!

[@joshuabeutter7061]

The guitars they used in the song haven't been made by Ibanez in a long time. They discontinued them in 2000, but part of me thinks Tim made them want to bring it back lol! One of my favorite songs by them is Nightmare, incredible tapping and all around solid song. Keep up the good work mate!

[@PrymalChaos]

I think I need one. I am an Ibanez fan from way back.

[@charlesreid9337]

I love how pure and simple the designs of most of tim's guitars are

[@collincrim4634]

@@PrymalChaos they just got announced. New Tim Henson signature. Announced a few days ago

[@andrebaptista8284]

Yeah, no Delay bro, just Tims Godlike fingers, that outro riff is insane!

[@PrymalChaos]

Wild!

[@dazraf]

This was the *best* reaction! Really appreciated you talking about the musical and technical aspects. Thank you!

[@McBessey_]

now that is a transformative reaction! Absolutely loved your deep dive into not just Tim Henson but the others and how they played and what they play as well as played on.

[@PrymalChaos]

It was a pleasure! What an amazing band and a stellar composition!

[@franciscogonzalez4l]

Definetely will never be enough of how cute you look reacting and your expressions, bring me so much joy haha. And as always Arriba Polyphia!!!

[@PrymalChaos]

Haha. Thanks! They are breathtaking but also break my heart every time. 😂

[@franciscogonzalez4l]

@@PrymalChaos they definitely does, thankfully i'm a bass player able to play Clay's parts so I'm very good with it haha.

[@ZachComa]

I can't remember what interview I saw this in, but Tim said when they write guitar parts that repeat, they'll add the flex to the third time around to keep it interesting.

[@dezmodium]

I think you are right about the melody. I think that's because they almost take a drummer's approach to their songwriting. If you have the beat you can bridge it with amazing "fills", as a drummer might. It keeps everything very cohesive and keeping that melody simple opens up all the spaces in between for amazing riffage.

[@ManiacTobi]

Great reaction and in-depth analysis!

[@VagabondTexan]

I had not put it together before your video, but you absolutely nailed what I heard but didn't "know" if that makes any sense. The "reasonably" simple melody joined by incredibly intricate connections. I am a lapsed musician, but that is exactly what keeps bringing me back to this song. And made me a huge fan.

[@PrymalChaos]

Yeah I noticed it in the moment! I’m sure it’s not a constant in the compositions but it certainly is a device that Tim seems to use. Very cool!

[@anony_meows]

that minor 2nd interval (dim? halfdim?) sounds godly in this song. it's my favorite part of the song.

[@RustyGonzo]

LOL! You're the second person I've watched who's also made the Girl From Ipanema connection to the middle section, and yeah, I totally hear it too. I'd love to hear from Tim if there's any weight to the theory or just a coincidence.

[@PrymalChaos]

Yeah I’d be keen to find out too!

[@joey_dice4508]

just a bossanova influence in general i believe.

[@Bobbias]

I don't play an instrument, but I do play rhythm games at a reasonably high level. Your point about light touch also applies to rhythm games. When you are using a heavy touch, you tend to tense both muscles (flexors and extensors) rather than 1 at a time. When that happens, it makes fast and accurate movements so much harder. It feels counterintuitive at first, but it makes an incredible amount of difference.

[@uselessoldman7964]

All done on Ableton all done using DI concerted to midi then adds vsts (his own NeuralDSP signature plugin) and then translated to a live show. Tim goes through "his" process and explains it on various videos here on youtube its no big secret, a genius at work not only as an artist buit as a sound engineer, DAW software programmer he has it all

[@dopesuga]

i had to pause mid-snack bite and everything else when you mentioned how it sounds like a reharmonization of Girl From Ipanema, like a switch went on hahaha, that's wild

[@hazard_209]

Great video as usual man! For some older polyphia you could check out Aviator, Champagne, James Franco, or Euphoria. They started really adding the hip hop/trap influence in their EP "The Most Hated". There's videos for Goose and 40oz from that EP. The Worst is a great song off of there as well, but the KZbin video is a visualizer so not sure how that'd go for a video for you.

[@PrymalChaos]

Awesome mate. Thanks for the recommendations. I’ll take a deeper look into some older stuff.

[@Daggroth]

I think Tim has mentioned that the solid pop chords and separation into parts/verses is to give the guitars a voice since they don't use vocals normally.

[@samvakarian]

7:11 I appreciate you bringing this up. Tim has said before that because they don't have a vocalist the guitars/instrumentation need to fill that role and this point articulates that albeit in different language.

[@PrymalChaos]

It’s a great way to maintain interest from a casual listener while still incorporating that depth via complexity and virtuosity.

[@sithil]

Clay just dropped a Drum play through on Polyphia's channel

[@incidentalist]

Are those Electric/Acoustic Nylon stringed guitars? Maybe the action a bit lower? Not too sure tbh - haven't researched it. Thanks for vid!

[@burnethedragon7065]

The second half of the song gives me major Royksopp vibes.

[@Giggy1]

He doesn't use that much delay, in that section that you're referring to, if you're really look at it he's playing everything there which maybe a tiny slap delay

[@fumes1541]

Why does no one react to their video for "Champagne"...am I missing it???

[@canyonperry5387]

dude you need to get bigger, i have learned so much about music just from 2 of your vids. its absurd that youre under 10k. makes me upset

[@PrymalChaos]

🤣🤣 hopefully in time. Only been on here since December. Thanks for watching mate!

[@canyonperry5387]

@@PrymalChaos yeah man, you're criminally underrated

[@charlesreid9337]

You can tell Polyphia's videos are made for musicians.. all the focus is on the playing.. far too few bands do this (or can) I feel you on the "i want to pick my guitar up" contrasting with the "i absolutely cannot fucking play this" Every musician in this band is world class.. tim regularly talks about how astonishing they are

[@MrBoston1630]

6:17 was that an Em69 chord? Nice

[@usuallyclueless4477]

yep

[@PrymalChaos]

… nice!

[@minuru5940]

there is no delay

[@donikuntoro454]

Dont forget to follow the Bass .. always...😅😁

[@PrymalChaos]

Great advice!

[@thedon7666]

No delay its all them. They are the real deal.

[@meldrian]

One thing, playing it clean, on classical guitar!

[@villageidiot6537]

No…. It’s the sensitivity of the nylon. Transitions and enunciation is effortless.

[@PrymalChaos]

There is a reason that classical and flamenco guitar is still highly regarded as guitar’s purest form of expression for virtuoso players and composers. There is truth in those strings. The most beautiful instrument I ever had the pleasure of playing was a luthier built custom classical guitar that was commissioned by my guitar teacher (when I was about 18). That thing rang like a bell.

[@SgtSnausages]

No. Delay. Bro.

[@lasagnahog7695]

I recommend people check out Clay Gober's youtube channel. I'm not a musician so it was harder for me to tell the level of his musicianship when he's not shredding like Scott or Tim but there's some straight forwardly insane playing on Gober's channel. And then from there I could see his insane playing within polyphia's songs easier.

[@justinrobinson9275]

Just to let you know, watch the unplugged version... that isnt delay😦

[@PrymalChaos]

Yeah. I know you are absolutely right. Tim is just pure chaos. Phenomenal!

😅

[@cristobalbenitez5211]

Flamenco Bossa nova Trap music.

[@PrymalChaos]

Yeah! That's pretty much it!

[@tiagorobert4112]

4:10 brazilian bossa nova

[@tiagorobert4112]

Music - Mistérios do Planeta - Novos Baianos.

[@joey_dice4508]

@@tiagorobert4112 such an amazing album! one of my all time favorites!

[@joch0460]

salut ta remarque sur les phrase en 2 parties avec une mélodie claire suivit d'une conclusion super complexe me fait penser au chant du merle kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6WpmXWVZ8mgnrc

[@joey_dice4508]

bro watch him play the guitar, hes not using delay.

[@PrymalChaos]

I refuted this the other day while watching the unplugged version, it wasn’t until I was editing that video that I had a really hard listen and you are right. It’s all hybrid picking, and what I was hearing was a mixture of that and a little reverb mixing with some synths in the background! And the variation in dynamics between the main notes and the subsequent finger picked notes. I added a comment to the new video (out soon) 🤣 He is wild.

[@PrymalChaos]

There just so much going on at that point in the song.

[@joey_dice4508]

@@PrymalChaos haha yea for sure. i failed to read the other comments already pointing this out my b yo. awesome song tho, love these guys. super original sound theyve crafted on their last album. cant wait for this next one.

[@Visual_Piano]

There is no delay pedal, just letting you know that. Next time speak when you know 100%

[@PrymalChaos]

There is something to be said for speculation. This is a reaction channel meaning I have no predetermined context. Secondly why is everyone so afraid of fx? It’s well established that Tim doesn’t even use real amp sounds. His amp models have fx built in. (Which is absolutely fine). I am still not 100% convinced that there isn’t delay in the studio version. It’s complicated because most people forget that Scott is also playing. Although I’m certain that there isn’t delay in the play through version.

[@LeeGion_981]

Does absolutely nothing for me. Obviously have talent but a lot of their songs have this exact same feel and it makes me feel nothing.

[@TheSkinnychef1620]

Cool story bro.

[@davidwylde8426]

@@TheSkinnychef1620 😂

[@joey_dice4508]

i can understand that, but its a very original sound. its a fusion of like 5 genres that ive never really heard anyone else do.

[@anascoburn]

Yep. It hits you cognitively, and for some enough to get a bit excited over the creativity and technical excellence, and yet it does not move me emotionally. Compare this, say to Dirty Loops’ work, maybe “Coffee Break is Over”…technical excellent and creativity, but with undeniable emotional engagement as well. Excellence, but also “fun.”

[@xyhmo]

People feel differently. For me the absolutely most hard-hitting aspect is the FEELING. Everything else is just a bonus.