Ponderosa Cafe North Wales Closing

[@charlesbarnett2724]

Lovely part of the world. I'm based Wales side of Nantwich and oftern head out this way. Beautiful.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@charlesbarnett2724 im very lucky to have all these roads on my doorstep, just wish the Welsh gov would stop the control tactics.

[@twowheelstouring482]

Its shut for winter refurbishment open maybe by february!

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@twowheelstouring482 maybe, as long as it keeps its character

[@robert100xx]

Lowering of speed limits across the area has probably dissuaded many a petrol head from making the effort to enjoy the roads.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@robert100xx 100% they have. It’s one thing to drop 30 to 20 in housing estates etc, but when you start dropping 60 mph A and B roads ton40 and police them with average cameras everywhere, you end spending all your time checking your speed. How can you enjoy your ride and concentrate on the road in that situation.

[@cabovermike]

New sub here , thanks for the heads up,. I dare say the old stores will benefit from it ?

[@EuroBikerUK]

Thanks for subscribing, there are a few places close that will, Old Stores more than most. I hope to do a follow up on a few options I know. Will also update as soon as the have a reopening date.

[@izzy_the_biker_chick]

You edited out the best biker cafe around the area. Go to The Old Stores Biker Cafe. Much better atmosphere and nicer people. The Ponderosa is always closing through the winter when the pass becomes impassable, they decide on a day to day and week week to basis. Been known to close in the summer too when the heather catches fire.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@izzy_the_biker_chick nothing against Old Stores, good cafe but 5 mins from my house so not worth stopping. The Ponder close on days the pass is closed in the last due to bad weather, and the actual road being closed, not because they decide to. Just like the Cat and Fiddle have to from time to time. Nature if the roads they are on.

[@Leonard-kd7uj]

Add to all that's already been said no insensitive to go off season by the councils that want to control why sould we ride in I would not

[@paulrendell6510]

If you're on a ride out in the area and want some scran, just go to the Old Stores Motorbike Cafe in Pontblyddyn. Bike only parking and not a bad little place. I suppose the Ponerosa, just like many other businesses is going to be affected by the ridiculous cost of energey, business rate rises and other tax increases in the last budget. In the winter months, the Ponderosa was only really busy during the weekends. In the week, it was dead most of the time. That combined with all the before mentioned increases have most likely been the cause of this. The thing is, they have said they will re-open. But will they? When businesses start cutting back like this, it is a slippery slope.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@paulrendell6510 I am going to make a follow up on this video with a couple of alternatives. So you can still have the ride out and get a mug of coffee and good food.

[@AliasMrHackenbacker]

Big thumbs up for the Old Stores from me, I now rarely go to the Ponderosa.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@AliasMrHackenbacker old stores is about 5 mins from my home and not a ride out, certainly don’t go in on the way ou, maybe on the way home from time to time but food and coffee are just the same as the Ponder for me.

[@AliasMrHackenbacker]

@@EuroBikerUK The Old Stores is a ride out for me, I like it more than the Ponder as it is very much bike themed. I can buy a brew and just sit and read some of the old bike magazines from years ago that I probably threw out. It's a good stop off for me if I'm going Bala direction.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@ if ur heading Bala way I would prefer the run to Beth’s-y-Coed to be honest. Great road despite the average speed cameras and plenty to see

[@susanboucher2116]

Try the Baffle Haus in South Wales for how a petrol head cafe should be!

[@EuroBikerUK]

Might b worth a look but we are North Wales long way away

[@thepeakybikerlive]

was up there last week it was closed

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@thepeakybikerlive yes, that’s the reason I made the vid. To try and let people know they won’t get a coffee etc.

[@johnwarner4513]

Thanks Euro Biker, some of us know it well, and decide if we want it, as a place for stop and a chat, or to go to, if you have a discerning palete. Bloody nora. Its just a cafe

[@EuroBikerUK]

Area is beautiful. Always worth a stop if u bring a flask

[@MightyTenth]

Hey, I have just started a channel and I really want to know how this video got 4.3k views when you have 58 subs. What gives, how do you do that? I live very close to where you were riding, been to Ponda more times than I can remember. Always find it strange when I see roads on other peoples videos that I know well as they are in 'my backyard' so to speak. I dont know if you have watched it back since posting but the resolution doesnt seem to be correct. I have it set to 4k and looks worse than SD for some reason - wanted to let you know incase you didnt realise. Best of luck with the channel. Ride Safe 👍 PS - I hate these 20mph. No one asked for it and no one voted for it - other than the block heads in the Senedd.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@MightyTenth thanks for getting in touch, I think the response is just because of the subject. Lots of people are interested in somewhere they know well when there is major news. I know about the resolution. It was an upload issue and I am trying to replace the video content without losing the actual post v

[@davros8222]

Hi watched your video and I had to come back and leave you this comment, I thought you would like to know, that I don't know what was going on with the quality as I played it in 2160 & 1440 & 1080p and the quality was terrible 😮 I even checked and it had the vp09 codex, but it didn't matter what quality settings it played it back in, the quality was like 360p. I have 900mb internet and the next video I watched was totally fine, and going back several times to see if it play in the quality that it should be playing in, but it didn't. So I have no idea what was going on with it, So I'm not criticising in anyway just letting you know from one vloger to another. 👍🏻

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@davros8222 thanks got this , I will check the camera. It’s on 5.2k so quality should be good? Maybe something with the upload quality

[@davros8222]

@EuroBikerUK 👍🏻 hope you can get it sorted, also I've subscribed to you 👍🏻

[@EuroBikerUK]

@ nice m8, I appreciate you and will learn to get a better quality uploaded. Reckon it’s in the video editing somewhere 👍👍👍

[@davros8222]

@EuroBikerUK I think it might be KZbin, if the original rendered file is of good quality. But I did have issues myself last month with one video I tried to upload, it was taking over 12 hours for KZbin to process it, I deleted it and tried and, same thing happened, I ended up deleting that upload as well, and I completely rendered it in a different settings, which worked straight away 🤷🏻🤷🏻

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@davros8222 sorted it out. I have used the low quality preview file from the GoPro file list rather than the full quality. Also looks like I used the basic mp4 upload settings instead of the full 4k settings. Thanks for pointing this out, lesson learned 👍👍

[@Achilles22]

If you don’t look after your customers, especially the Biking Community, you will lose them. Wake up Ponderosa! This opening back in 2025 sounds like bullshit to me! They are struggling 😢😢

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@Achilles22 no m8, they just don’t get the bikers up there during the winter. Pedal and motor. Not sure if u r local but if u are you will know how bleak it can be this time of year. I for one will be back the day they open the doors.

[@Achilles22]

@ if???

[@johncummins3860]

Will re open as a migant centre !!

[@Achilles22]

@ 😂😂🤣Don’t tell Starmer.

[@paulcrandon1235]

Says the person who obviously has no idea of the issues & pressure of running a business. If you can’t cover your overheads due to lack of footfall you have little option but to close.

[@DAVIDLITTLER-m7i]

Will it re-open?

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@DAVIDLITTLER-m7i yes, back open 2025, no set date, keep an eye on their website for the actual date

[@williamcoulter5462]

closing for the winter! many cafes which decided to cater for cyclists and turned away the motorbikes and cars will need to do this as the mamil's do not like the cold weather and bikers who have already been turned away will not visit them and just let them close.

[@EuroBikerUK]

i guess they have taken that into ccoubt. However they do have a loyal following along with the many vistors who go first time etc.

[@glyn829]

Its a great run upto the Ponderosa.. just closing for the winter

[@Achilles22]

@@glyn829 no see the owners answer above!

[@muppdog390]

Oh what a loss! As a meeting place for bikers, maybe. As a coffee place, certainly not. This must be one of the most soulless , cold places ever. Never has coffee been so insipid, tea so lukewarm as in the Ponderosa. Terrible. That may have been ok in a long lost past but it is the year 2024. Keep up with the rest of the world. Maybe, just maybe, they will use that break to think about their sins. I regularly ride the World's End and end up in the car park. Stopped buying food there a long time ago. Better places 5 minutes away.

[@johnwarner4513]

Its all about the journey ffs. If you want Costa, take it with you.......its just shut for the winter, always has.

[@muppdog390]

​@@johnwarner4513agree 100% about the journey. That's why I choose the World's End way of getting there. There are smaller coffee places than Costa to get great coffee. (ffs?)

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@muppdog390 don’t forget they reopen in 2025 after a winter break. Not gone for good

[@trailingarm63]

I don't agree with your comment. I go there most Sunday mornings, the hot drinks are fine, the pasties are excellent - best I've ever tried. Plenty of seating, friendly staff. It's only cold by the door, fine elsewhere. The big car park means you can get lots of bikes in and quite a few interesting classic cars. Suits me just fine and I look forward to it reopening.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@muppdog390 you are entitled to your opinion. Coffee is fresh ground through a machine and always hot? Tea I cannot comment on, it’s vile drink. Food is no different to most cafe, including the likes of the Old Stores etc. could go on and on but it’s clear you don’t like the place. Each to his own, I felt the same about the Cat and Fiddle and Ace Cafe. It’s just personal taste, but I don’t go to either of them anymore for that reason.

[@markdownes7050]

Yes open again in the new year

[@Achilles22]

Really??? Don’t believe it.

[@davidmurray9193]

Riding in wales is shite now anyway with the restricted speeds and average cameras, its something when you get push bikes overtaking you on the twenty sections, the pricks

[@EuroBikerUK]

Agree with you about the cameras, but there are awesome roads they haven’t f******ed up yet too

[@kevindarkstar]

Give em time 😏​@@EuroBikerUK

[@jackduckworth1100]

You should try living here. Drives me nuts.

[@davidmurray9193]

@jackduckworth1100 I can believe it, it's pure maddnes

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@jackduckworth1100 I do mate, I live in one of the trial towns so have had 18 months of this before it was rolled out in full

[@davidwaddington9414]

it's poor quality food and expensive prices won't be missed.

[@johnwarner4513]

Nor will you. Its a meeting place, after a lovely ride, get a life

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@davidwaddington9414 they are just closing fit the winter anyway,mback in 2025 and the food is great,

[@muppdog390]

@@davidwaddington9414 thank you! Keep the car park!

[@davidwaddington9414]

@@EuroBikerUK you must be easily pleased.

[@EuroBikerUK]

@@davidwaddington9414 not at all, it’s honest cafe food. If u want to see a shit hole of a cafe, try the Ace, awful food and rude, ignorant staff for the most part.