Pool Lesson: Plus 2-Rail Kicking System

[@robertkerr229]

Best explanation I've seen yet. First one I've run across that explains the need to understand track lines rather than just the diamonds.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Perfect timing Lil’ Chris. Just yesterday, I was discussing two rail kicks with a fellow league player friend. I had been visualizing these kicks but knew I’d better become more accurate with them. In showing my friend how I use visualization only, we both felt it would be better to search KZbin for a more accurate/strong “two rail aiming system”. Fast forward to today and BAM…you answered our search before either of us even tried. I really like what you’re showing us in your video LC and have shared it with my friend, I can’t wait to begin nailing down this powerful system on my own table. Thanks for thoroughly describing and posting on this subject…👍🏻💪🏻😊

[@RichardYoung-x4r]

Great help for me and others. Thank you

[@donkeydiehard879]

This was probably the best video I've seen for this system. That being said, I think the first example, more specifically the wording of the first example complicates things. Instead of saying "the cue ball is 4 diamonds away," simply by counting the diamonds, it's help by starting out with using the term "diamond target line." I think there is value in showing the first example but starting with it can easily confuse people newer to kicking systems.

[@daveguzman8039]

He clears that up though and think it is intentional. That was the mistake I was doing. Now I understand I do agree with you about not starting that way.

[@CueballcontrolSometimes]

The right amount of side spin is '1000's of shots in the memory bank', the great thing about this is limiting the variables to just speed and spin.

[@bluecrossandblueshieldoffl6355]

This is incredible. I've been told this so many different ways and I practice and get flustered cuz I'm not doing it right. This makes so much sense! Thanks 🙏👍❤

[@TheyCallMeTeknoTom]

Oh. My. Goooooosh!! You just made made game 10 times better. I will call you sensei now. Thank you so much Chris. I’m watching your videos as I’m banking away these shots I never thought I would be able to calculate. Thank you!!!!

[@yoduff1]

great job explaining and demonstrating the affect of slight variations in english. shows how important it is to practice and perfect that part of the game.

[@mikeoreilly4020]

Outstanding video. This is the clearest, most accessible teaching of a Diamond system that I've ever seen, and I've watched a ton of them. Thank you.

[@juansosa644]

I've seen multiple videos about this system and can assure you, this is the best one so far. You covered all points of the system and well explained. 👏 Thanks Chris for a great video! 👍 I have used the system before and you helped me understand why sometimes worked and others didn't. Great job!

[@자운영-i1l]

거의 매일 하루종일 시청하고있습니다 우리 아들이 릴 크리스의 대사를 외울 지경입니다ㅎ 최고의 레슨 영상입니다❤

[@ioriedwards7554]

Brilliantly exlained. Must get on the pool table right away while it's fresh in my mind

[@LeeBaldwin9]

I’ve never seen this system taught better. You are truly great for the game.

[@att_ronez9993]

Finally a video I can easily understand on this topic. Can’t wait to go to the pool hall and try this out

[@ricklane9590]

You have a great ability to make complicated systems simple!

[@TangoRom]

You're fantastic, brother. I just love your approach on teaching and playing. Kudos!

[@TwoEagleStar]

Great instructional video on the +2 Chris. Very thorough and clear. I have watched several on this system and believe this to be one of the best, if not the best! Great job!! Thanks

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Awesome, thank you Ron! 💪

[@NeonNights80]

Same here. I watched several videos on this subject and this one is the best. I liked how he showed the track lines.

[@guilhermebotelho3112]

thank you Chris I show my girlfriend your kicking system shots and she making them. best system for all player's very well explained . very good job sir

[@quinnbaker1935]

What about you though lol

[@coderz4life]

Good video as usual. Around 14:30 one sidenote to add is that table models and conditions often dictate how much adjustment you actually need. In my experience, 7' Diamond tables are often slightly "off system" compared to, for example, 7' Valley tables. Kicks often run shorter on Diamond tables than most tables. (as high as 1 diamond!) So, one could either adjust the target on the rail or, as you mentioned, adjust the spin.

[@bobhenson1433]

I’ve seen at least 5 Plus 2 Systems described, starting with Dr. Cue’s wonderful kicking video. Yours is the most clear,, especially the way you describe the sight lines with the CB out from the rail. Anthony Beeler’s Spot on the Wall does the same thing and I’ll compare the two in the next few days. Thanks again, Utah Bob

[@bobhenson1433]

See my earlier post. For CBs that are away from the rail, I compared your “track” method to Anthony Peeler’s “spot on the wall” method. I found no difference in the results. Since I have used the Plus 2 method for years and the numbering system is 2nd nature, I’ll stay with your method. Again, as many of the comments say, your explanation is simple, easy to understand and use.

[@dugheckenkamp4047]

That's the best video I've seen for two rail bank shots! Thank you!!

[@riche.9990]

You explained it really clear. One of the best pool lessons on KZbin... Thank you for sharing...

[@joerobertson7887]

Excellent, Chris. Best explanation of this system I've seen. Thanks

[@gregoryschleitwiler9601]

THANK YOU CHRIS. I was having trouble using this system, but you cleared it up by showing the track lines. You have other teachers by the pool balls. 🎱

[@timothygaffney6459]

I use my different numbers for the short rail when shooting a two rail kick. The corner is 0 and the first diamond is 4 with 2 & 3 falling in between and spaced evenly. I use no side spin. This allows me to adapt the system for 2 rail banks as well as kicks.

[@dshadow3173]

Very well explained, young man. Thanks for what you are doing.

[@daveusaz7152]

Perfect A good refresher course on things i learned 40 years ago but forgot the actual math of it Thanks

[@Max-ti5nq]

Wow, such an awesome system. Thank you Lil Chris.

[@theenthusiastsshinellc7772]

Great video chris. Made it super simple to understand. I appreciate the content and your dedication to this game. Cheers mate

[@dameagerbeaver7703]

Thank you Chris! I just got into pool a few months ago. I’m having too much fun. 😅

[@thisguy7616]

This was an excellent lesson, superior delivery

[@charliefox3157]

Very nice explanation on how to use the system well done Chris

[@richfearr3437]

very well explained. Easily understandable.

[@jamesgaszak3685]

Great video brother. Best 2 rail kicking system on you tube and best explanation.

[@riefler0220]

Just found your channel. Love it!!!

[@donjaun540]

Thank you for this awesome lesson. 👍

[@vincent6692]

Great break down on the 2 rail system

[@yes2crypto]

Fantastic teaching

[@TheyCallMeTeknoTom]

It does crack me up how you do a frozen stare at the ball after you make it. 😂. I’d be jumping up and down celebrating. I can’t believe you don’t even smile or go “damn I’m good” after you do it. Can you please do a KZbin short and do a sick shot and then say “daaaaamn. I’m just too good.” 😂😂😂

[@thomasford4716]

Awesome work. I watched this system before and the way you explained it made it very understandable.

[@afrodrift2]

I love the fact that u look like mac from always sunny in Philly

[@allanjohnson2930]

Really understand the system and technique you're really a good teacher

[@Daviswilder1]

AWESOME video. Thank you for explaining it in a variety of ways.

[@TruongNguyen-mc2yt]

dude literally acts like Coursera! Thank you so much!

[@stevemarion9591]

You really explain things very easy to understand S

[@dugy40]

I like your videos bud. I am working on getting a table.

[@BackwardsBilliards]

Great information!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Thanks Lonnie!

[@BackwardsBilliards]

@@LilChrisPoolPlayer You're welcome

[@robertscofield7845]

Thanks! Great ideas bubbling around in my head to try now!

[@ericpersson8410]

Thanks Chris, great video.your videos are helping me with my game.

[@yeucuocsong4220]

Tks you for your useful techniques

[@vancamjr]

Nicely done. I had to watch a few times to verify you’re aiming at the diamond and not a rail position in front of the diamond. With that clarification this 2-rail system is a kick.

[@briansmith4724]

Thank You 😉 Years ago i saw a Daffy Duck cartoon on using diamonds to calculate how to hit a ball to pocket it. I have been looking for the system since, as i do not remember the details. 😊

[@chrism6317]

Thanks Lil Chris!!! Very well explained!

[@covidsurvivorwear6749]

PHENOMENAL ... very helpful and exstreamily easy to understand. Even so, I have to admit watching severl times Ty ... ty ... ty ... finally it all make sense. 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@puddlejumper3259]

Best explanation. I love the editing magic you do to shift the numbers too. But as long as you're using magic, you don't need to make such grand gestures with so much effort and swing like that lol. You didn't look convinced by your own actions, and you look like you didn't feel like putting all the effort into waving as far as you did. So just tone it back a bit and use easier motions.

[@nayanchoudhary4353]

I saved this video long time back. But only now, with more experience I can remember the formula 😂

[@imabuzzard1]

this is a good video. very informative. however, I use the two rail "spot on the wall". I go to the right side of the table and sight a line from the third diamond to the diamond to the left of center on the head rail, your #3 spot. I find my "spot" in the distance and shoot to the "spot" using the same running english and pocket speed. It's very effective and deadly.

[@maryannef3067]

Great video, thank you!

[@IlliniDog01]

Awesome system and explanation.

[@andrevieira6247]

Finally a good explanation! Thank you 💪💪 one question. When the ball I want to hit is not in the rail, but in the middle of the table, how do I decide from which diamond to start the count? Is it the first one after the 90 degree projection to the long rail and playing with the spin?

[@orosioinc]

Great tips, man 🤘🏼

[@fasteddie8782]

Awesome thanks so much for the information...!!!

[@nielsvanderhorst6396]

In the first example, his cue does not hang over the 4th diamond, but more like 3 3/4. Nevertheless good explanation via the track line!

[@yourmovebro8650]

Very informative

[@FloridaRaider]

well done

[@portobello36]

Thanks for the tutorial bro

[@deershack5388]

Thanks for the lesson, very professional.

[@morejeep01]

Newly subscribed, but I have watched a few of your instructional videos. This is definitely the best I've seen, maybe because you explain everything in a way a simpleton like myself can understand. Thanks lil Chris

[@brentcharles6554]

Luv your videos!

[@jamesbarnes9633]

Thanks!

[@JerryLee..]

Awesome stuff!! It's pretty much like a science project. 😂 Thanks for sharing this!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Thank you so much for the Super Thanks! 🙏

[@newsnebraska2392]

Great video Chris. Thanks

[@stevemarion9591]

How much sidespin would you say your adding? One tip, a half tip, or quarter tip. This is one video I will never get rid of!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

That's answered at this segment kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXPcnGyIbMZkeck

[@arindamdutta9371]

Amazing!🙏

[@bossman4854]

I’m saving all of theses videos that I can to learn the game better cause I want to make my uncle beg for mercy when we meet again

[@keisawyer1305]

tanx for idea

[@chaarawtazalanier5921]

Dope Asf!!!

[@alanharris3277]

In the segment, beginning about 6:35, would it not also be correct to say: " Relative to the original situation (ball at the pocket on track #1), for each diamond moved on the long rail, the track number decreases by 1 diamond (to kick shorter off the 2nd rail) and for each full diamond (target, not ball) moved out along the short rail, the track line increases by one (to kick longer off the second rail). Oooops. I think I see the problem with my math, IF, by moving the OB (target) two diamonds out along the short rail, the target line becomes the #4 track (twice the shift in the example), as the starting point to count tracks to the CB position. In that case, in your example (CB position), that would put you on the #7 track line which pushes the limits of the system and likely needs at bit of further adjustment.

[@rogercarlson2330]

ty

[@SgtKikr]

really like your examples.. one thing though i run into is!? cue on left side or right.. close to rail.. ball on opposite side close to rail or even on it.. say i want to cross side or even cross corner. do you have a video on that as well?

[@stephenmarian7097]

Chris I have a question on why you prefer front hand English over backhand English. What gets me is with front hand you have to deal with deflection. Back hand seems so much easier. So let me know why you prefer front hand English. Oh and back the way nobody on this whole KZbin web site explains things as clear as you do.I mean nobody even comes close. Thanks steve

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Pool Lesson: How To Apply Back Hand English kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3-YooqgmbNpfc0

[@tryingtolearnthis]

9:49 I honestly thought you had wall stickers up and it wasn’t a graphic for those numbers.

[@sjgyomrey]

that was great, thanks...

[@mitchr482]

At my local hall, every regular plays 9 ball. I didn't like 9 ball before because "iT wAs HaRd aNd NoT fUn." Now I play 9 ball 95% of the time and I've always struggled with kicks and certain banks. I started playing in December of '22; that said I've been playing on 9' tables with 4" pockets so I won't be surprised if this system would require some sort of minor adjustment. *No APA / FARGO rating for me (yet).

[@timfairburn1718]

Not all tables are as well made as Chris' therefore I think you will need to do some experimenting on any table you are using. There could be more adjustments than you might expect. However that being said it is still a good system to use and thank you Chris for a clear exlanation.

[@joeperez4797]

I’ve seen nothing better yet, I’ve seen math skills explained but I refuse to pull out my phone for every shot lol. May I ask what’s your favorite type of cue and tip, your shots sound solid.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

My current cue brand is JFlowers and I use the Taom Fusion tip.

[@victoryeoh8952]

hi lil' chris great video! Btw i would like to check with regards to the diamonds then using this system. Do we aim at the contact point on the rail where the diamond is at or purely at the diamond itself?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

At the diamond itself

[@nick7leo]

...also, at what angles are you measuring your track lines from the cue ball to the short rail measurements/diamonds in this video?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

That's demonstrated in the video. Starting from the corner pocket (you're kicking to), 1 diamond along the long rail tracks straight to the opposite corner pocket on the short rail (1st rail to kick to). 2 Diamonds along the long rail tracks half a diamond over from the opposite corner pocket and so on and so on.

[@changliu9264]

Awesome video man, gonna try this out. One question though, what do you do when the object ball isn’t against the rail, thus making it a bit more difficult to measure this system?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

When you understand how to kick 2 rails to each diamond using this system, you should start seeing the track lines of how the cue ball travels after the second rail. Therefore you would be able to see if an object ball, off the rail, falls onto those track lines or at least near them. Otherwise, you could use the 2 rail midpoint parallel shift system. I haven’t done a video on this one yet.

[@yutuberboy]

what happens when the cb is not in line with a diamond on the long rail like your example ? lets say cb is inline with is on 1 2/5 diamond near the long rail . how is the adhjustement

[@sheilamclaughlin963]

U can also shot the same line as the corner with more spin

[@ObsessedWithPool]

How about if the object ball is one diamond away from both short rail and side rail?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

The system will at least give you a good approximation if the final track line will go towards the corner pocket or towards the diamonds on the long and short rail. With that, you should be able to see if the final track line towards whatever final destination you're aiming for will hit the object ball. If that's too difficult to see, then the midpoint parallel shift system is a good alternative. I currently don't have a video on this, but others do.

[@Bryceut]

How do I guage the object ball track position when it is not on the rail?

[@davidjames766]

Can you show us how to find the track line of the object ball you are trying to hit if it is not on a rail? You showed the cue ball but not the object ball. Very rarely am I kicking at a ball that is against a rail.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

When the object ball is not near a rail, you can either use the track line of the cue ball to a known point and see if the object ball is on that track line and adjust. Then there’s also the mid-point parallel shift system. This system doesn’t require knowing diamonds. I plan on covering this in a future video.

[@davidjames766]

I currently use the mid point parallel shift method but there is a lot more room for error than if you use a diamond based system. Thank you for the content and keep up the good work.

[@dgute2929]

What would occur if using only top center on the cue ball?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

You would miss the 2 rail kick

[@chaddavis1886]

Hay Chris , I normally just watch n practice. Learned a lot. But question. Don’t have a table at home even tho tryd convince wife get rid of furniture n put one living room with no go. Lol. But question is what kinda work is there I can do with a table. And I do know the mirror make sure stroke staying correct. Any other suggestions. And I have GoPro but need head gear so I can evelautate my own game. Thanks.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Form fundamentals can be done at home without a table, but anything else really is going to involve table time. People talk about practicing visualization. Visualize the shots, the line up, and the execution but that doesn't account for environment/table conditions. You got to be able to see the actual results on the table and learn to make any appropriate adjustments as necessary. Hope that helps!

[@harley5571]

Once you find the track line using +1 or +1/2 when on short rail..can't you just use the parallel shift to find spot to aim at , instead of counting diamonds and using a number..For me you just simplified the 2 rail kick system because I have incoporated the parallel shift in my game anyways...Thanx.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Parallel shifting is mentioned in this video

[@claytonclark6630]

Like to see how to kick if cue ball and object ball are across from each other around middle of table how to kick at object ball. Hope I explained it. Just trying to be a better kicker.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Check out this video for 1 rail kicks - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJrLgYRqoZmZntk

[@mikea3867]

Great video. Is there a system when the cue ball and object switch places? Kicking using the long rail to short rail?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Yup... There's a calculated system and then there's the Midpoint Parallel Shift system. These I'll eventually cover in future videos.

[@mikea3867]

Sounds good I look for to that. But for now I definitely will practice this so I can apply it if I find myself in a situation where this is needed.

[@BandsawBob]

How about a similar video on shooting an object ball 2 rails into a pocket. Similar to this one, but how to aim the object ball. You can't put the same spin on an OB like you can on the cue ball.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Not sure of a calculated system to hit an object ball 2 rails like kicking the cue ball, but I would have to suspect that the object ball would have to be passed the 45 degree line between the side pocket and opposite corner pocket. I'll see what I can find.

[@BandsawBob]

@@LilChrisPoolPlayer I was thinking you could pretend the OB was the CB for a shot to a pocket, but don’t know how to correct for lack of spin.

[@DavidHernandez-or1dp]

When u start aiming.. how do u know which diamond to start aiming from?

[@DavidHernandez-or1dp]

?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

That was demonstrated in this video. Start with the object ball and then move up the diamonds until you get to the cue ball.

[@ajluther723]

How about 2 rail kicks hitting the long rail first?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

@Corner 4 Billiards has a good calculated system for getting to the diamonds past the side pocket when kicking to the long rail first: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWiYnpeCdsmHnNU To kick to the side pocket or the corner pocket off the long rail first, I don't know of a calculated system but I do know that the midpoint parallel shift system works great and requires no numbering of diamonds or calculations. I plan on covering that system in a later video.