Pool Lesson: Plus 2-Rail Kicking System

[@LeeBaldwin9]

I’ve never seen this system taught better. You are truly great for the game.

[@robertkerr229]

Best explanation I've seen yet. First one I've run across that explains the need to understand track lines rather than just the diamonds.

[@rhughes004]

I have watched this several times now. This is the best explanation I’ve seen. I watched several other videos on 2 rail kicks and even though they were trying to explain the same concept, they just weren’t articulated very clearly. You have a talent for making complex mechanics easy to understand.

[@johns3790]

Good evening Chris. I have looked at some very “high profile” channels for Plus2 instruction videos. Probably a dozen in all, and I have to say yours is by far the best! Your instruction is, without a doubt, the most comprehensive and easiest to understand. I want to thank you for your efforts in producing these videos. Great stuff Sir!

[@TheTenaciousTZ]

This is the best video explaining this I have seen yet! Thank you!!

[@Corner4Billiards]

It’s pretty kool how The Plus System and The Plus 2 System is taught differently but similar with the same results. Nice way to teach it a different way bro 💪🏽great job.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Thanks brotha! It's always good to see different ways the same thing can be explained and hopefully reach more people. Here's Corner 4 Billiards version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2esYmpulrmeapo

[@donkeydiehard879]

This was probably the best video I've seen for this system. That being said, I think the first example, more specifically the wording of the first example complicates things. Instead of saying "the cue ball is 4 diamonds away," simply by counting the diamonds, it's help by starting out with using the term "diamond target line." I think there is value in showing the first example but starting with it can easily confuse people newer to kicking systems.

[@daveguzman8039]

He clears that up though and think it is intentional. That was the mistake I was doing. Now I understand I do agree with you about not starting that way.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Perfect timing Lil’ Chris. Just yesterday, I was discussing two rail kicks with a fellow league player friend. I had been visualizing these kicks but knew I’d better become more accurate with them. In showing my friend how I use visualization only, we both felt it would be better to search KZbin for a more accurate/strong “two rail aiming system”. Fast forward to today and BAM…you answered our search before either of us even tried. I really like what you’re showing us in your video LC and have shared it with my friend, I can’t wait to begin nailing down this powerful system on my own table. Thanks for thoroughly describing and posting on this subject…👍🏻💪🏻😊

[@RichardYoung-x4r]

Great help for me and others. Thank you

[@rossbideon]

You did the best explanation of this system I’ve seen. Thanks for all your help.

[@yoduff1]

great job explaining and demonstrating the affect of slight variations in english. shows how important it is to practice and perfect that part of the game.

[@jstrickland38]

Thanks for this video. One of the best I've seen. Very clear and more in depth than others. Appreciate your teaching style.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

You're very welcome!

[@TheyCallMeTeknoTom]

Oh. My. Goooooosh!! You just made made game 10 times better. I will call you sensei now. Thank you so much Chris. I’m watching your videos as I’m banking away these shots I never thought I would be able to calculate. Thank you!!!!

[@lewismetzger5622]

I’ve seen an explanation of this system before, but this is by far the best explanation I have seen. Thank you Chris.

[@stevetomlinson3894]

That was great! I was always good at kicking just using mirror system but takes time to become confident with. This way is pure logic and instant. Would have loved to know this 30 years ago. I never used the spots except to halve a bankshot. Very cool!

[@guilhermebotelho3112]

thank you Chris I show my girlfriend your kicking system shots and she making them. best system for all player's very well explained . very good job sir

[@quinnbaker1935]

What about you though lol

[@att_ronez9993]

Finally a video I can easily understand on this topic. Can’t wait to go to the pool hall and try this out

[@CueballcontrolSometimes]

The right amount of side spin is '1000's of shots in the memory bank', the great thing about this is limiting the variables to just speed and spin.

[@자운영-i1l]

거의 매일 하루종일 시청하고있습니다 우리 아들이 릴 크리스의 대사를 외울 지경입니다ㅎ 최고의 레슨 영상입니다❤

[@Slycologia.]

this system is brilliant and very well explained. congratulations. nice to see that my attention in your content is time well spent

[@darrell9351]

this is by far the best video you have made. I really appreciated both sides of the table and how you showed the numbering system for each side. Trying to do that in my head on on the table on the "other side" of the table, was really difficult for me. Thank you!

[@mr.bitcoin1953]

one one the best 2 rail kick explanations I ve seen on KZbin. Thanks for being so clear and descriptive.

[@rphilli9]

Great job! Tried it on my table and it works. Glad I found Lil' Chris.

[@jimjim2822]

Thank you. Excellent explanation. This tutorial was on the Diamond table which is 4’ x 8’. Our pool hall has 24 tables that are 41/2’ x 9’ - everything changes! It took me a bit to recalibrate but after a while (and lots of frustration) I think I’ve finally got it. Thanks again 👍

[@coderz4life]

Good video as usual. Around 14:30 one sidenote to add is that table models and conditions often dictate how much adjustment you actually need. In my experience, 7' Diamond tables are often slightly "off system" compared to, for example, 7' Valley tables. Kicks often run shorter on Diamond tables than most tables. (as high as 1 diamond!) So, one could either adjust the target on the rail or, as you mentioned, adjust the spin.

[@bluecrossandblueshieldoffl6355]

This is incredible. I've been told this so many different ways and I practice and get flustered cuz I'm not doing it right. This makes so much sense! Thanks 🙏👍❤

[@TangoRom]

You're fantastic, brother. I just love your approach on teaching and playing. Kudos!

[@JerryLee..]

Awesome stuff!! It's pretty much like a science project. 😂 Thanks for sharing this!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Thank you so much for the Super Thanks! 🙏

[@productvisibilitytvshoppin1107]

Thank you for explaining so clearly. I have seen similar systems but never so well explained. Thank you again.

[@kikimomikuto6689]

Wow this is so clear and easy to remember and understand. I hope you can also demostrate if you are going to hit the long rail first.

[@mikeoreilly4020]

Outstanding video. This is the clearest, most accessible teaching of a Diamond system that I've ever seen, and I've watched a ton of them. Thank you.

[@riche.9990]

You explained it really clear. One of the best pool lessons on KZbin... Thank you for sharing...

[@ricklane9590]

You have a great ability to make complicated systems simple!

[@TwoEagleStar]

Great instructional video on the +2 Chris. Very thorough and clear. I have watched several on this system and believe this to be one of the best, if not the best! Great job!! Thanks

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Awesome, thank you Ron! 💪

[@NeonNights80]

Same here. I watched several videos on this subject and this one is the best. I liked how he showed the track lines.

[@TheyCallMeTeknoTom]

It does crack me up how you do a frozen stare at the ball after you make it. 😂. I’d be jumping up and down celebrating. I can’t believe you don’t even smile or go “damn I’m good” after you do it. Can you please do a KZbin short and do a sick shot and then say “daaaaamn. I’m just too good.” 😂😂😂

[@bobhenson1433]

I’ve seen at least 5 Plus 2 Systems described, starting with Dr. Cue’s wonderful kicking video. Yours is the most clear,, especially the way you describe the sight lines with the CB out from the rail. Anthony Beeler’s Spot on the Wall does the same thing and I’ll compare the two in the next few days. Thanks again, Utah Bob

[@bobhenson1433]

See my earlier post. For CBs that are away from the rail, I compared your “track” method to Anthony Peeler’s “spot on the wall” method. I found no difference in the results. Since I have used the Plus 2 method for years and the numbering system is 2nd nature, I’ll stay with your method. Again, as many of the comments say, your explanation is simple, easy to understand and use.

[@gregoryschleitwiler9601]

THANK YOU CHRIS. I was having trouble using this system, but you cleared it up by showing the track lines. You have other teachers by the pool balls. 🎱

[@joerobertson7887]

Excellent, Chris. Best explanation of this system I've seen. Thanks

[@timothygaffney6459]

I use my different numbers for the short rail when shooting a two rail kick. The corner is 0 and the first diamond is 4 with 2 & 3 falling in between and spaced evenly. I use no side spin. This allows me to adapt the system for 2 rail banks as well as kicks.

[@amberspadafora9427]

Thanks!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

You’re welcome!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

And THANK YOU for the Super Thanks!!! 🙏

[@theenthusiastsshinellc7772]

Great video chris. Made it super simple to understand. I appreciate the content and your dedication to this game. Cheers mate

[@andrevieira6247]

Finally a good explanation! Thank you 💪💪 one question. When the ball I want to hit is not in the rail, but in the middle of the table, how do I decide from which diamond to start the count? Is it the first one after the 90 degree projection to the long rail and playing with the spin?

[@nedj10]

Chris, after watching this vid and a few others from other billiards channels, it seems to me that one thing the billiards community needs is a means by which to quantify the striking force required for any given shot. Such a tool would allow players to compare play on one table from another and would be very helpful in making this and any other shooting sytem repeatable on different tables.With regards to shot making, how hard is hard and how soft is a soft varies from player to player and table to table, such a quantifiable measurement would allow players and coachs to communicate for more effectivly than they currently can. Billiards needs its own version of scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7.

[@Wuzzysbrand06]

One way my coach used to quantify the force was in terms of the force needed for the cueball to travel from one short rail to the other and back and have it stop just at the rail (so basically like a lag shot, i.e. the ball travels two table lengths). As a beginner, I was surprised at how little force is actually needed for that. It's very easy to overshoot and have the ball bounce of the second rail pretty far. He told me that most beginners strike way too hard. Once you get used to the "lag force" as your "standard shot" you can basically describe shots like "half force" or "one and a half force" which would be the cueball traveling one table length or three table lengths respectively. The issue with this though is that it depends on the table (felt/size) and the weight of your cue, so basically you have to practice that shot a lot and get used to it. You can't really explain to a beginner how much force is needed. I'm not sure if others use this system, but it helped me during my training sessions, as my coach would say stuff like "that's a half force shot", so I had the basic idea already.

[@trailerwookie]

I believe Dr. Cue has a video on what quantifies such a shot, as well as what quantifies "one tip of running English."

[@robbiegf900akajwalker5]

This is the most comprehensive video on the subject. Much appreciated 👍😎👍. Thank you 😊 cheers

[@quentinnailsare.2024]

Thank you for the one through seven Bank real shots, I've did a bank shoot what you have did it work for me.

[@lonniehatfield8440]

I'm Starting To Master This Drill And Your Classic Break!!!! Your The Man Lil Chris!!!!

[@briansmith4724]

Thank You 😉 Years ago i saw a Daffy Duck cartoon on using diamonds to calculate how to hit a ball to pocket it. I have been looking for the system since, as i do not remember the details. 😊

[@daveusaz7152]

Perfect A good refresher course on things i learned 40 years ago but forgot the actual math of it Thanks

[@alanharris3277]

Love the cue swipe to change the numbers :). Most always, 2 rail kick systems are demonstrated with the Cue Ball (CB) positioned fairly close to a long rail and the Object Ball (OB) positioned at either a corner pocket or frozen to a rail, perhaps a diamond or two adjacent to that corner pocket (with appropriate adjustments). I'd love to see what adjustments (cue ball contact/speed/aim or track line) you'd consider if say, the CB is at 2,6 at one end (foot rail end) and the OB is at 2,3 at the other end (head rail end). I think both tracks should be well within the limits of the system. .

[@dugheckenkamp4047]

That's the best video I've seen for two rail bank shots! Thank you!!

[@juansosa644]

I've seen multiple videos about this system and can assure you, this is the best one so far. You covered all points of the system and well explained. 👏 Thanks Chris for a great video! 👍 I have used the system before and you helped me understand why sometimes worked and others didn't. Great job!

[@charliefox3157]

Very nice explanation on how to use the system well done Chris

[@myblacklab7]

Hot tip: You have to watch through the whole video to understand the system. What he says about "Four diamonds away from the cue ball" in the beginning isn't what it sounds like, and he explains that further at around 6:00 . Speed and spin are also important - you have to watch the entire video to "get it."

[@vancamjr]

Nicely done. I had to watch a few times to verify you’re aiming at the diamond and not a rail position in front of the diamond. With that clarification this 2-rail system is a kick.

[@dshadow3173]

Very well explained, young man. Thanks for what you are doing.

[@dameagerbeaver7703]

Thank you Chris! I just got into pool a few months ago. I’m having too much fun. 😅

[@puddlejumper3259]

Best explanation. I love the editing magic you do to shift the numbers too. But as long as you're using magic, you don't need to make such grand gestures with so much effort and swing like that lol. You didn't look convinced by your own actions, and you look like you didn't feel like putting all the effort into waving as far as you did. So just tone it back a bit and use easier motions.

[@ciscomartinez989]

I love the way you explained it so I could understand it.

[@Max-ti5nq]

Wow, such an awesome system. Thank you Lil Chris.

[@jamesgaszak3685]

Great video brother. Best 2 rail kicking system on you tube and best explanation.

[@thisguy7616]

This was an excellent lesson, superior delivery

[@thomasford4716]

Awesome work. I watched this system before and the way you explained it made it very understandable.

[@imabuzzard1]

this is a good video. very informative. however, I use the two rail "spot on the wall". I go to the right side of the table and sight a line from the third diamond to the diamond to the left of center on the head rail, your #3 spot. I find my "spot" in the distance and shoot to the "spot" using the same running english and pocket speed. It's very effective and deadly.

[@ulyssesornelas627]

Instructor of the year"lil chris"

[@jamesbarnes9633]

Great lesson.. you are a natural teacher..

[@RoobieRhoo]

I love this shot. Even getting close is respectable (I need more spin and a firmer hit). One question, though. I understand the second short rail is half a diamond because mirroring the long rail the cue ball should head for the first "ghost" diamond below the corner pocket. That is five diamonds from the cue ball (4 along the long rail and the mirror diamond below the corner). But, when you stroke the cue ball toward the 5th (middle) diamond on the first short rail, the cue ball moved toward the first diamond (two half diamonds) from the corner. Not the half diamond which is five diamonds from the cue ball. The half diamond on the second short rail is the track from one to the opposite corner. So, you add one diamond to your cue ball position from the corner. Never mind, I think I see it. The 8 ball is actually two half diamonds from the corner along a track to the second "ghost" diamond. But, that's six diamonds from the cue ball position along the mirror long rail. Do you count the second short rail as whole diamonds? I never have much lock shooting at the second short rail. Thanks.

[@RoobieRhoo]

Okay, watching again, you are shooting from the track line along third diamond to five on the first short rail, not from the side pocket as it appears. So, yes, you are five diamonds from the second "ghost" diamond (target) below the corner, and the cue ball will hit the first whole diamond on the second short rail. So, we count half diamonds along the second short rail. Makes sense. Two half diamonds on the short rail is two whole diamonds along the mirror long rail. Then three diamonds up the long rail is five.

[@ericpersson8410]

Thanks Chris, great video.your videos are helping me with my game.

[@scottbacci8933]

This system is very useful. Got me out of a lot of trouble in one pocket games.

[@Daviswilder1]

AWESOME video. Thank you for explaining it in a variety of ways.

[@morejeep01]

Newly subscribed, but I have watched a few of your instructional videos. This is definitely the best I've seen, maybe because you explain everything in a way a simpleton like myself can understand. Thanks lil Chris

[@TruongNguyen-mc2yt]

dude literally acts like Coursera! Thank you so much!

[@stevemarion9591]

How much sidespin would you say your adding? One tip, a half tip, or quarter tip. This is one video I will never get rid of!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

That's answered at this segment kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXPcnGyIbMZkeck

[@covidsurvivorwear6749]

PHENOMENAL ... very helpful and exstreamily easy to understand. Even so, I have to admit watching severl times Ty ... ty ... ty ... finally it all make sense. 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@wayneburba9457]

Excellent demonstration, lots of time spent

[@jimmieharper6564]

great demonstration Chris!

[@RayAzalea1]

Great video. Best explanation I seen of the system.

[@robertscofield7845]

Thanks! Great ideas bubbling around in my head to try now!

[@davidclark6436]

The best I've seen this explained

[@riefler0220]

Just found your channel. Love it!!!

[@vincent6692]

Great break down on the 2 rail system

[@allanjohnson2930]

Really understand the system and technique you're really a good teacher

[@SgtKikr]

really like your examples.. one thing though i run into is!? cue on left side or right.. close to rail.. ball on opposite side close to rail or even on it.. say i want to cross side or even cross corner. do you have a video on that as well?

[@chaddavis1886]

Hay Chris , I normally just watch n practice. Learned a lot. But question. Don’t have a table at home even tho tryd convince wife get rid of furniture n put one living room with no go. Lol. But question is what kinda work is there I can do with a table. And I do know the mirror make sure stroke staying correct. Any other suggestions. And I have GoPro but need head gear so I can evelautate my own game. Thanks.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Form fundamentals can be done at home without a table, but anything else really is going to involve table time. People talk about practicing visualization. Visualize the shots, the line up, and the execution but that doesn't account for environment/table conditions. You got to be able to see the actual results on the table and learn to make any appropriate adjustments as necessary. Hope that helps!

[@edgarg2024]

Thank you Chris!! Great examples and what ifs..

[@chrism6317]

Thanks Lil Chris!!! Very well explained!

[@IlliniDog01]

Awesome system and explanation.

[@ioriedwards7554]

Brilliantly exlained. Must get on the pool table right away while it's fresh in my mind

[@dugy40]

I like your videos bud. I am working on getting a table.

[@nsharony]

Another question. In almost all of the examples, the target 8-ball is positioned right by the corner. At 8:00 you gave an example of how you adjust the shot to take into account the 8-ball being slightly to the right of the pocket, but still on the short rail. How would you adjust the shot if the 8-ball was not on the short rail and instead 1 or 2 diamonds into the table?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

You at least know the line the cue ball will go as it comes off the second rail, so you can see if the ghost ball to the object is on that line. Otherwise, make adjustments as necessary. You can also use the Midpoint 2-Rail Kicking System, which I will cover in a later video.

[@mikea3867]

Great video. Is there a system when the cue ball and object switch places? Kicking using the long rail to short rail?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Yup... There's a calculated system and then there's the Midpoint Parallel Shift system. These I'll eventually cover in future videos.

[@mikea3867]

Sounds good I look for to that. But for now I definitely will practice this so I can apply it if I find myself in a situation where this is needed.

[@viethungoan7275]

This video deserves 1m views 🙏 thanks

[@victoryeoh8952]

hi lil' chris great video! Btw i would like to check with regards to the diamonds then using this system. Do we aim at the contact point on the rail where the diamond is at or purely at the diamond itself?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

At the diamond itself

[@stevemarion9591]

You really explain things very easy to understand S

[@donjaun540]

Thank you for this awesome lesson. 👍

[@alanharris3277]

In the segment, beginning about 6:35, would it not also be correct to say: " Relative to the original situation (ball at the pocket on track #1), for each diamond moved on the long rail, the track number decreases by 1 diamond (to kick shorter off the 2nd rail) and for each full diamond (target, not ball) moved out along the short rail, the track line increases by one (to kick longer off the second rail). Oooops. I think I see the problem with my math, IF, by moving the OB (target) two diamonds out along the short rail, the target line becomes the #4 track (twice the shift in the example), as the starting point to count tracks to the CB position. In that case, in your example (CB position), that would put you on the #7 track line which pushes the limits of the system and likely needs at bit of further adjustment.

[@nick7leo]

I'm a little confused: At the 2:27 mark of this video, you began measuring the distance against the long rail to the cue ball from the corner pocket/8 ball (in order to surmise the contact point on the short rail you'd first kick the cue ball off of). This part I get. Then, you started with that corner pocket as the 1st diamond and stopped at the distance of the 4th diamond (the one before the center pocket, or 5th diamond). BUT... the cue ball is apparently positioned between the center pocket (the 5th diamond) and the 6th diamond... So, in my mind, I would have counted the distance/measurement on the long rail to be AT LEAST on/near the 5th diamond (center pocket) and not the fourth as you did in this demonstration. Could you please clarify or correct my confusion?! ...I can only guess that when you chose the 4th diamond as the mark for the distance the cue ball would be gauged from the corner pocket/8 ball, you were taking into account the slight spin/speed/cue ball contact location you were about to use in order to kick the cue ball successfully into the 8 ball....

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Did you get to the part where I started showing the diamond track lines? Sometimes with the placement of the cue ball, you can get away with just counting diamond distances. However, it's just better to use the diamond track lines. There were 2 demonstrations that I did where the cue ball "appears to be X diamonds" away, but when you count using the diamond track lines you get a more accurate measurement of how far the cue ball is from the objective spot to kick to.

[@VinceCruz-en8jp]

Would you happen to have a video on two rail kicks having to hit the long rail first instead of the short rail?

[@jean-philippetremblay7978]

Look at the 3 rail kick system

[@nielsvanderhorst6396]

In the first example, his cue does not hang over the 4th diamond, but more like 3 3/4. Nevertheless good explanation via the track line!

[@garybkatz]

Good job explaining this system!

[@stephenmarian7097]

Chris I have a question on why you prefer front hand English over backhand English. What gets me is with front hand you have to deal with deflection. Back hand seems so much easier. So let me know why you prefer front hand English. Oh and back the way nobody on this whole KZbin web site explains things as clear as you do.I mean nobody even comes close. Thanks steve

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Pool Lesson: How To Apply Back Hand English kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3-YooqgmbNpfc0

[@BackwardsBilliards]

Great information!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Thanks Lonnie!

[@BackwardsBilliards]

@@LilChrisPoolPlayer You're welcome