Poor Things Review | Most misleading movie of the century

[@PutWoodleyIn]

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[@meddifedersen5471]

OMG I WAS SO SCARED IM THE ONLY ONE DISGUSTED BY THIS.

[@ordinary-man1258]

Nope. It's disgusting. The way the sex scenes are done among other things... It's uh... Yeah it's immoral.

[@thethirdchimpanzee]

​@@ordinary-man1258 Well the movie leaves out the ending...revelation...of the book. A revelation that changes everything. The main character in the story...is NOT what her "creator" claims that she is at all.

[@barracuda0405]

​@@thethirdchimpanzeeelaborate?

[@JulenneEsquincaTapia]

Yeah me too

[@JoshuaFoster-v4d]

This movie was disgusting and appalling and outrageous but not good just weird and like the lady said un comfortable

[@Aaron_so5]

I feel like it would be a much better film if there wasn’t such a focus on the sex, especially with the child brain it made it weirder like do one or the other not both

[@Antyoksydantka85]

Yes, wasted potential imho

[@dianaizzy960]

I 100% agree

[@MaximusJohal]

It American.... Its like thet have to have sex and nudity in it.... Terrible movie, fake hype

[@Antyoksydantka85]

@@MaximusJohal many people say it's "Hollywood", "American", because of nonsensical, loveless sex scenes, but I think it's not just USA, it's just modern, rotten world. Other countries can also produce such filth.

[@madrabiddog]

It's like that cyberpunk movie Battle Angel Atalita(?) Which did this right...or Edward Scissorshands who at least had a mentally age appropriate love interest.

[@esparza.jenniferr]

This was a comedy!? I didn’t even laugh.. I was DISGUSTED… Hollywood think they’re slick by creating this movie that is OBVIOUSLY about a LITERAL CHILD being GROOMED, Raped, abused, sold etc. “AS SHE GROWS”… I had to stop watching and consider if I wanted to continue… This movie got me more mad than ANYTHING else..

[@laylahassomethingtosay]

Yeah I am continually disheartened by the shear number of men and women alike who are throwing around terms like "feminism" and "female empowerment" when discussing this movie.

[@cangaroojack]

but that's the point?

[@madisonmercy-ross7148]

That's exactly what I thought it feels like sickening to watch it's like a weird infantalizing fetish fever dream. I feel like pedos would love this shit I just felt sick

[@Hashbrownpasta]

There was a point when I was thinking “who was this made for?”

[@dianaizzy960]

@@laylahassomethingtosayyeah it’s most definitely NOT female empowerment like I’m sorry but this film is a poor example of that.

[@tasteofvic]

There’s a line the madam at the brothel tells Bella which I think really sums up the whole experience for me, “Some men like it when you don’t like it,” and I think that Yorgos is the “some men” in question, and that we are the “poor things” for having watched that. By the end I had a headache from the sharp tinnitus-like noise Yorgos puts in a lot of his films; that, combined with just being retraumatized by all the sexual violence (it was advertised as a fun movie?) towards a child-brained woman didn’t sit well with me. I should have walked out when she started putting fruit inside herself bc it truly is just goes downhill from there.

[@wendellwiggins3776]

Yeah it agitated me not simply because of the content but the story didn't explain or develop well enough to allow the film to make sense in anyway. So much of the added strangeness seemed shallow.

[@Neekos4]

please I thought you meant Yorgos likes it when women dont like it 😭😭😭😭😭

[@mithzynelson1080]

That’s actually the part where I decided to turn it off and watch a cartoon instead

[@mithzynelson1080]

Exactly what I was thinking too! The director is straight up calling us the poor things. A disgusting movie made by perverted men.

[@esthert9146]

I was only forty minutes in the movie and I fast forward at certain scenes. Emma didn’t need to do nude scenes.

[@Tochinoki]

I'm stunned by how many people are able to overlook the blatant abuse this movie is based on. I had to turn it off.

[@gishigoshi]

I don’t think people are ignoring it, that’s basically what the movie is about

[@christinemerritt974]

That’s the entire POINT of the movie 😅😂

[@frozenraspberries1552]

@@christinemerritt974 I have to interject on that one. Yes it depicts abuse as a major part of the movie, but it *never acknowledges* it as child sexual assault. I can't emphasize enough the difference that makes. The abuse is depicted as simple gross men taking advantage of her naivety, then the abuse develops to the character voluntarily selling herself into child sexual abuse as a way for her to gain "autonomy". On a note that I find personally disgusting, the child sexual abuse is also used as a comedy device (e.g. "jumping", "let us touch each other's genitalia"). Repeatedly, child sexual abuse seemed to get a pass as simplified abuse because an adult woman's body was used to make child rape seem acceptable to an audience. But it never acknowledges it as child sexual assault in a meaninful, reflective, tone appropriate way. If anything, the only progression that happened with child sexual abuse being used in the character development, was her sexuality starting as primal/experimental in motivation which gets taken advantage of (to which she seems indifferent thinking about it), to using child sexual assault to make the character seem more cerebral and motivated to gain autonomy. Side note: The scene where a father is using Bella to teach his sons about intercourse is a whole other can of worms.

[@frozenraspberries1552]

@@gishigoshi I have to interject on that one. Yes it depicts abuse as a major part of the movie, but it never acknowledges it as child sexual assault. I can't emphasize enough the difference that makes. The abuse is depicted as simple gross men taking advantage of her naivety, then the abuse develops to the character voluntarily selling herself into child sexual abuse as a way for her to gain "autonomy". On a note that I find personally disgusting, the child sexual abuse is also used as a comedy device (e.g. "jumping", "let us touch each other's genitalia"). Repeatedly, child sexual abuse seemed to get a pass as simplified abuse because an adult woman's body was used to make child rape seem acceptable to an audience. But it never acknowledges it as child sexual assault in a meaninful, reflective, tone appropriate way. If anything, the only progression that happened with child sexual abuse being used in the character development, was her sexuality starting as primal/experimental in motivation which gets taken advantage of (to which she seems indifferent thinking about it), to using child sexual assault to make the character seem more cerebral and motivated to gain autonomy. Side note: The scene where a father is using Bella to teach his sons about intercourse is a whole other can of worms.

[@fredbird7257]

Its a film about abuse but it isnt celebrating abuse, rather the opposite, they make Mark Ruffalos character look like an evil manipulative moron.

[@littledewdroplets]

I was so disgusted by the movie having such a focus on her sexual life when she is literally a baby mentally. It wasn't just "sex is a part of maturing and growing up" SO MUCH of the movie is ENTIRELY centered on her having sex and being used sexually by others. I went in with the impression this was a comedy/drama and even though there are jokes and funny moments, nothing that can lighten the 2 hours of movie that basically boils down to "toddler getting fucked by men who don't know she's a toddler but are happy to find such a naive and sheltered woman they can so easily manipulate" That being said: Mark Ruffalo ATE THIS MOVIE UP. When he was on screen I could look at nothing else. He did such a fantastic job, IMO he WAS the movie. IF Willam Dafoe winds it will be more than just disappointing

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Uugghhh yes I loved Mark in this!

[@EricaMeeee]

Mark Ruffalo was my least favorite in this! He seemed like a cartoon!

[@hanbobanable]

Yeah I can't watch this since I found our the twist. I love disturbing films but not if when the disturbing stuff is seen as positive. and I'm genuinely horrified this is so widely praised, it makes me feel really ill

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Me as well...

[@Meoyaime]

But it's explained in the movie that she's "developing at an accelerated pace", so she doesn't remain a baby for the entire duration of the story. It was also pretty clear in the way E. Stone played it, she's basically already a teenager when she leaves for Lisbon.

[@benjimimin4878]

Young woman? She’s literally a baby

[@PutWoodleyIn]

A BABY!

[@zara-zq1oi]

Not even a baby! A foetus

[@samara7509]

​@@PutWoodleyIn yes a infant

[@pragadeeshkumaran8313]

So if she's aged is it fine to fuck? Seriously this is clearly ridiculous and the statement of soul the creator tried to depict was clearly stated and art is not for everyone.

[@stone_forest3802]

Guys, in the first MINUTES of this movie they say that she is developing at a highly accelerated pace. So much so that her "father" has to hire someone to document everything because he will miss too much at work. Also, her hair is growing super fast and some other quirks. The movie shows that while she is still learning how the world works, her brain is developed far beyond what she has experienced. She makes lightning fast logical deductions and cuts through people's bullshit and manipulations. She argues about philosophy and how unfair society treats women specifically in a way that a *baby* never ever could, not even most young teenagers. It also states that the guy who basically abducted her (forgot the name) was only infatuated with her while she was still naive and easy to manipulate. As soon as she calls for equal standing and doesn't do whatever he wants, he is unhappy. He thought he managed to snatch a brainless beautiful woman who will do whatever. She even calls him out on that at some point. It's really all spelled out for you.

[@skatelouis6033]

It's funny how the book (the source material) fixes (or at least adresses) all of the movie's problems in a much more delicate and well thought out way, AND engages in actual commentary about womanhood, personal and collective past, parenting, class, the male gaze and the validity of storytelling as a whole. It seems like the creators of the movie didnt even read past the first 12 chapters and thats proven by the fact the story is not even located in Scotland.

[@Mandee-d4j]

Thank you, you inspired me to read the book. Read the movie was supposed to be a metaphor for the nation but I got from watching the movie the womanhood and fragile male ego.

[@karinaclark5336]

I’m so happy you pointed this out. As a huge fan of the book, I was beyond disappointed with the film. It was bound to fail, for it adapted the part of the book specifically written from the male gaze/perspective, while completely disregarding the female narrative (Those who have read the book will understand what I mean). The book also discusses feminism in the context of colonialism and racism, which is FAR from what the movie presented. In the film, the “feminism” was inherently : “she does what she wants”, “girl boss” and “go get it girl!”. It is also centered around sexual pleasure far more than the book. There is nothing wrong with sex, but when the source material is holding an important discussion of feminism centered around systemic oppression, and the adaptation simply portrays feminism as sexual freedom? Imo they have completely missed the mark.

[@skatelouis6033]

@@karinaclark5336 That's it tho! In one interview Yorgos Lathimos said he wanted the movie the be from the perspective of Bella because in the book we are just told from someone else's words and I'm like, have he read past the 20th chapter? I am positive he didn't get the same value from it as I did. My biggest disappointment was with the ending. We never see Bella get old and actively help and teach women medicine, make her book that is a cathartic resolution for the sexual nature she shows in the story, we never see her trying to make the world a better place, which is her main objective after Alexandria (in a very feminist way too!) Cutting out the double plot twist was a shame, but I can understand why they'll do that (even tho that shows a lack of creativity from the adapters) Cutting out the optimism and faith in change in a moment in history we need the most, that's something I can't get behind.

[@HuntingViolets]

Interesting. I understand the book focuses on the male characters, though?

[@skatelouis6033]

@@HuntingViolets yes, but I would say it also focuses on Bella a lot more than the movie. She literally retells her story from her perspective, debunking Candle's words, and the last section of the book is entirely about her life after the "main" plot. Focusing on the male characters a bit more is the tool the book uses to tell this narrative of male gaze, questioning and breaking it apart in the end.

[@juanmarti6296]

I left the cinema midway, havent done that in years. What a disturbing experience

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Me wanting to but with mean girls 😭

[@dahiva1]

Yes, extremely disturbing. And how did it get a rated "R" instead of "MA" or "X". Hate that many youngsters will be curious about this film after Oscar awards. This was practically a "child" on a sexual adventure, while the men around her seemed to approve of this behavior. Disgusting!

[@Ubik1999]

I left also. This was a gross, tasteless and honestly quite stupid film.

[@vitalityfox]

I was on my phone almost the entire time and I got carded when I went in not knowing why. I left after the Paris part I don’t know who the hell this is supposed toto be be for

[@EricaMeeee]

@@vitalityfoxyou were on your Phone in a movie theater?! That would Piss me off! Just leave.

[@YouGrim]

I just hate how it kinda accepted the status quo at the end. Like it was a bunch of uncomfortable satire that then just felt pointless

[@pmaestro]

the guy on the boat tells her flat out - you can't change the world, people are fucked and broken - and so she doesn't change the world - but she damn well changes her own situation, reversing her relationship with every man in her life. it's a lot to ask a girl with an infant's brain to solve class-warfare.

[@carlacruz893]

I tought it was a nice ending where she can be comfortable in the life she chose after learning and growing

[@mikhailschipani2018]

Yay neoliberal postmodernism (it’s kinda the point)

[@emmaerfourth]

Everyone is praising this movie and i am so confused

[@LordMalice6d9]

This movie is essentially a 2 hour long PDF-ile justification movie. Hollyweird are telling the clueless masses what they are all about.

[@Tojoj22]

The Dance alone is confusion

[@l.s.d.5863]

​@@LordMalice6d9 Dude.... did you watch this movie and think it was glorifying the men preying on her? lol

[@dominosnostradamus2415]

It's scary. Lots of non important sex scenes. Should have like implied sex scenes. This was hella uncalled for. Hollywood and viewers are perverts. But story was good. Frankenstein creation turned creator.

[@YorgosL1]

@@dominosnostradamus2415implied sex scene ? Lmao buck off for christ sake

[@carolinafd]

The movie is essencially about a woman being repeatedly abused... And her reactions to such abuse are never explored. I found this very disturbing.

[@pmaestro]

they aren't explored? her reactions are the driving force of the film. nearly every man is abusive but in different ways - it's a statement about men's attempts to control women. you know how men will say they can't be misogynist because they love their wives? but then they'll act put out if she wears something that might elicit the lust of other men... this movie is about a girl who learns the horrors of becoming a woman. art is meant to challenge you. to make you angry and disgusted and force you to look at the world through such a lens and realize how we've built up mental blocks to blind ourselves to these disturbing truths. Bella, for what it's worth, acknowledges the cycle of abuse, and transforms herself from the victim of men's whims to the commander of her own life. she escapes the walls her father keeps her in, she avoids the contract her fiance binds her with, she throws away the money of the rich man who steals her away, and she murders the man from her past who'd have her killed. her reactions are potent. she has taken full control of her life, reversed the problematic relationships the men had put her in, and she "had fun doing it." definitely not for tradwives who've fooled themselves into thinking serving a man is god's plan for them.

[@PutWoodleyIn]

What'd you think of Dune though? And Barbie is far from a surface level movie. There's a reason it has Oscar nominations 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@glight23]

Essencially. It’s Essentially. WOW!

[@jennywarren]

It was basically disabled infant porn. I thought the point was going to be in the hyperbole but it's listed as a comedy

[@LordMalice6d9]

​@@pmaestroNo. The entire movie is essentially one long PDF-ile film about how it is okay to abuse and violate a young girl with a child brain as long as the visage is of an adult woman.

[@Bbish89]

This is the most exploitative movie I have ever seen. I was completely disgusted the entire movie. Thank you for touching on the fact the entire premise is that she is really just a child. I'm sick of people and Hollywood trying to skirt around that fact, when in actuality it's the ENTIRE premise of the movie

[@tatertotcasserolewithsalt]

I didn’t know what it was about going in and I left feeling sick. So many disturbing things and way too many graphic scenes. The scenes when she’s teaching young boys that chocking helps was just nasty and so inappropriate. I’m shocked at how many people are defending it

[@DeceivedHeretic]

⁠@@tatertotcasserolewithsalt just say the movie isn’t for you then. I thought that scene with the kids was hilarious.

[@cangaroojack]

@@tatertotcasserolewithsalt but that's the point

[@matt3194]

​@@DeceivedHereticoh it's fucking hilarious how a parent traumatized his childrens by fucking someone in front of you to when came the time to you lose your virginity you remember everything your dad told you, go do a therapy sis, sick.

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Very disturbing

[@sotireeeed]

Finally, SOMEONE said this, that's was the most triggering movie for me as a woman who was groomed in 15...I was really gonna cry after watching it

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Oh I'm so sorry thank you for sharing your perspective!

[@wendellwiggins3776]

I can imagine because none of those deplorable actions by her were handled with any depth, substance or meaningful justification .

[@bryanerickson2905]

Fiction always will conflict with some individual stories, but this movie definitely does not push grooming in any way, take your time to rewatch it and think about how it is about an individual breaking free from conventional roles.

[@wendellwiggins3776]

@@bryanerickson2905I think what he's saying that it actual contradicted it's message if that was the point

[@BonsaiCatTV]

your problem

[@tjc8422]

This movie made me so angry cause what do you mean she has a baby brain 😓

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

so people who come out of a coma with no memory of anything are babies? A brain is just a brain. And it's a fantastical movie you can't try and fit it into reality much. For one an infant brain is much smaller and would wiggle around in her head, you also can't reanimate people like that, so really stop taking it so literal.

[@nicanonymous9023]

@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare You're not very intelligent... People who come out of comas with no memories are just that, people who have lost their memory. If you anything about the development of a human brain you would know that not only does the brain take years to reach full size, but that we continue to build neural pathways throughout our development.

[@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420]

@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare 'stop reading the film as it's being delivered to you its not a baby placed into an adult body no even though thats literally what it is' You need eyes on you.

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 I don't care what you see when you watch it, I see it my way and I loved it so yeah. If you wanna hate it that's fine, but I don't

[@M4lgoslingg]

This movie literally made me feel sick watching it, I hated the movie it felt evil and just straight up disgusting

[@plagueangel7550]

The whole time I was physically pained. I’m not a prude in anyway but I had to fast forward the endless montage of sex scenes because we couldn’t shake the idea that she’s playing a child within an adult body. It’s hinted that she’s growing but her mind never really ages till after she’s been taken advantage of & close to the end. Which I found the most alarming. However, I really liked the wardrobe, attention to detail, the cinematography but the exportation & dragged out porn scenes were unnecessary.

[@YorgosL1]

@@plagueangel7550prude commenting on sex scenes and comparing films to porn when they are not related. Proving this generation is not bright

[@plagueangel7550]

@@YorgosL1 You know what porn and sex scenes have in common… SEX. You’re right this generation isn’t bright. I rewatched it and I think if there wasn’t a porn scene every 15-20 mins with a woman that has the mind of a child - it would’ve been more enjoyable. If not wanting to watch someone play as child get taken advantage of makes me a prude, den I’m a prude. 👍🏻

[@YorgosL1]

@@plagueangel7550 it’s a 2 hrs and 30 mins movie. The sex doesn’t even take up more than 10-15 mins in total. Not even. The rest of the 2hrs 15-20 mins of the movies is pure story. Films aren’t porn. Porno would be the opposite. Porn would be 10-15 mins story and 2hrs 20 mins sex. Thats not how movies work. Stop exaggerating nonsense. You can’t even define your meaning properly without comparing everything to prn because of a fews sex scene. Anything more than a ‘fews’ is exaggerating

[@plagueangel7550]

@@YorgosL1 It’s ok to have different opinions. Like I said rewatching helped. I think my first take away was because I had no synopsis or expectation really. I was caught off guard. So in rewatching I did find that it was overall a good film. Again the cinematography, design, and wardrobe were a dream. It really created a world that I wanted to be in. We can agree to disagree! It’s a movie. Not real life. It ain’t that deep. 👍🏻

[@brucecrawford_17]

Poor Things is one of the worst of the films I’ve ever seen.

[@PutWoodleyIn]

LMAOO

[@georgiospapaioannou-xc9pb]

It's not bad it just has a horrible message. If the ending was that she finally understood that she is being abused and actually focused on the horrible things that happened previously in the movie it would be lot better but instead they choose to just move on with it which is purely disturbing. Also yeah the baby brain thing doesn't help but that is yiorgos larthimos for you.

[@AndjelaVelickovic-hy4cz]

Same

[@TheDreamingDays]

This film felt like a man was mansplaining feminism to me while being exploitative at the same time.

[@shahnazkhan8847]

So true director done manipulation and exploit Emma and she did it to get Oscar 😢

[@tobe1207]

Manslplaing is a funny one because explaining Manslplaing to men is almost always in a preachy,condescending way. A man might Manslplain how to fix the sink. But do they ever give you "well actually you're a horrible,toxic person and I'm morally and intellectually superior" type energy?? Lol

[@odinrave]

@@shahnazkhan8847 To assume that Emma Stone was exploited by the director is akin to taking away her agency as a person. It's ironic because this is one of the essential points of the film. I'm sure she is a capable adult and can make her own decisions without exploitation. She is also one of the producers of the film.

[@odinrave]

Could you break down your opinion a bit? I am writing a review for Poor Things and I want to understand the backlash better. Also, I'm not sure if you are aware but, Emma Stone was a part of the creative process of the film as she is one of the producers.

[@methylphosphatePOET]

I think that you have misread the film as being about the sexual liberation of women. I can understand how you might make that assumption seeing that it is so easy to assume that every film with a female protagonist must be dealing primarily with feminist themes and issues. But this was a much broader story about the human condition in its totality. Bella (in the film version) is a stand-in for humanity itself, not women. It is essentially a meditation on post-theological modernity and humanity's impulse to engage in endless pleasure in the absence of meaning which was, prior to the enlightenment and modernity writ large, offered by Christianity (or Christendom). But God no longer being a necessity in the rationalist science age burgeoning in the fin de siecle period depicted in the film, the replacement for God (a replacement that could be characterized by "earthly pleasures," or the instant gratification provided by industrial capitalist society, proves to be an inevitable yet ultimately hollow replacement. Over-indulged, pleasure-seeking modern humans would eventually ( through experience and/or philosophy) come to the realization that the true and more meaningful replacement for God is not pleasure, but humanism: compassion, and empathy for one's fellow human being. This is Bella's journey if you read the film as it was intended. Your honest mistake was taking the film to be a political one when it is in fact a philosophical one. From a political or feminist perspective, it's a terrible movie. From a philosophical one, it's a masterpiece, and worthy of all of the praise it has garnered. Your issue, as with so many women unfortunately, is that you read everything through the lens of being a woman rather than a human being. That's the malady of the current age: personal identity being a self-imposed prison that we sequester ourselves inside of, and judge every by, rather than the common experience of being human. As a man, I saw Bella as a fellow human being, and a deeply relatable one.

[@SkyBlue-vn9im]

🤢 A toddler inside her mother's body. She is a child having sex. They know she is a child. SO did he kill the bady.

[@wendellwiggins3776]

good question!

[@cakerbaker9965]

I didn’t see it that way bc she wasn’t assaulted in any way…if she had been raped, I would’ve been disturbed, I think…but by the time she started hunching she was evolving into an adult, and obviously an adult actress played the part, so that also made it tolerable. Her fling with Mark Ruffalo didn’t bother me… My issue with this movie is that turning her into a hooker was completely unnecessary. It was gross to watch, i never find that stuff arousing, it annoys me that an actress has to do that if she wants the role. Emma Stone is top tier…it’s beneath her to have to be that explicit in any part. Eliminating that entire sequence of events would have shaved some time off this long a$$ movie too.

[@wendellwiggins3776]

@@cakerbaker9965 THE MOVIE WALKS A FINE LINE as CLUMSILY as BELLA's first baby steps. I left so let down & feeling like the poor thing was me having gone to see it! I view the mainstream praise as a reflection of our times where superficiality vs substance has become the norm. If there's enough surface glitter, lip filler, butt padding & marketing ferocity then there's a good chance of success. Like a Frankenstein monster, Poor Things was a series of pieced-together events that touched on several deep social issues yet followed through on none of them. Like a Frankenstein who's threads are were loose vs sewn tight., much of her character was just plain contradictory. For one, her performance seemed to be retarded at first rather than a newborn innocently becoming aware while her unrestrained bluntness & unfettered reactions seemed too cold & cruel and lacking any sweet naive childlike innocence or wide-eyed curiosity. She was often emotionally one dimensional & distant, IMO. Later attempts were made to humanize her but by then the story had already begun to drag & the many narrative ideas remained unresolved. SO MANY CRITICS HAVE HAD THE EXACT SAME REACTIONS to the film so I know I'm not just being purely subjective. EITHER YOU CAN IGNORE ALL THE BROKEN PIECES of the Story or they stand out like a sore thumb. Maybe the pretty nature on the surface camouflaged the holes in the film or the quirkiness but it was far from the best thing since sliced bread. In fact it ended up being mostly just icing without much cake! I find it interesting that people care less about seamless intricate complex storytelling & more about surface decoration. Some directors can do both. Although there were a few funs scenes, none of them validate the flaws of the overall film. At times her actions are CONTRADICTORY & hypocritical to a Story that was CONVOLUTED in it's exploration of many social themes which were never resolved. Many scenes were pretty but ARBITRARY and did little to progress the narrative! Her FRANKENHOOKER phase was wild & a bit intense but it was mostly contrary to her strong free-willed independent nature. Concepts of misogyny, pedophilia, prostitution, abuse only serve to SHOCK rather than reveal any true insight, empathy or heroic sentiment. For all the men bashing she then freely allows a woman, the Madame Dwarf, to use & abuse her. Saying nothing about contraception and STD's. Often I was just confused to whether or not to laugh or frown. Nevertheless the IMAGERY is stimulating to watch but the STORY just gets SLOW around 3/4 the way through. After all the controversial SEX, when it should become full of intrigue, conflict resolution or drama it stalls when her new found "ENLIGHTENMENT" BOAT TOUR tries to get Political, to no successful conclusion except to END with a GOAT SACRIFICE & sick operation to show REVENGE towards her estranged Father, a stranger to us & her the entire film only with her return to a non-romantic relationship with a FEEBLE wannabe Frankenstein Scientist Husband who unsuccessfully did to that poor girl exactly what was done to Bella. WTF?!!! I LEFT UNINSPIRED, unsympathetic, irritated over the whole experiences! > Please GO WATCH any TERRY GILLIAM film * or PIERRE JUENET's "Amelie" or 'City of Lost Children" (in French) or even DEL TORO'S "The Shape of Water" to experience truly strange, VISIONARY, eclectic, quirky, enriched, yet fascinatingly cohesive FAIRYTALE STORYTELLING. Heck you can even rewatch the classic "The WIZARD of OZ" to experience a film of this style, done EXCELLENTLY in 1939!

[@babytoshiro7014]

Real talk. It's a child having sex film basically or a mentally handicap person having sex. Just dress up and perform by grade a actors.

[@RockstahRolln]

PRECISELY!! NO ONE seems to get that part! WTF

[@nixauchnix408]

Thank you! The only thing more disturbing than the movie is how many positive reviews it got I explicatly had to search for a bad review here on yt cause all the other revies loved it?!? WTF

[@PutWoodleyIn]

No fr I thought I was going crazy thinking this was an insane concept

[@nhvkuy4675]

It made me lose my faith in humanity once again. I'm glad I found people who found this movie to be disgusting just for its concept

[@gobsmr]

It’s funny that I only see negative reviews from women. So much for a feminist film lol

[@professionalviewer5672]

Bc hollywood is full of circle jerkers. I wanted to walk out at times. Felt like 4 hrs!!

[@butaleo]

Can't understand it either, like wtf

[@catj8935]

Never has a film been so simultaneously a 1/10 and a 10/10 for me. If I had watched it 10 years ago and not thought too much about the actual storyline it could have easily been one of my all time favourite films but it was just so incredibly disturbing I couldn't shake the sour taste it left in my mouth. I don't think enough people watching it and giving it glowing reviews are really thinking enough about just how deeply disturbing the plot is. The fact that a woman didn't get autonomy over her own body even in death but is instead used as a horrific experiment, the fact that Willem Defoe's character fully admits that he could have saved the baby and probably could have resurrected the mother but decided to place the baby's brain in the mother's body just for the sake of experimentation is so incredibly f'd up. He robbed the mother of the digintiy of death and the child the first 25 odd years of it's life. I was fully expecting there to be a scene where Emma Stone realizes that all of the things she had been doing had been using her own mother's body, how would one ever move past a revelation like that? I feel like the story would have worked just as well as a twist on Frankenstein where the woman is brought back to life but her mind is wiped clean and she has to relearn how to be a human, it would have been the exact same story just without the brain swap aspect.

[@PutWoodleyIn]

VERY well said! I agree, I would have preceived this differently if her mind was wiped. Like what was the reason for her having a mind of a child other than it being for shock factor. The message would have still be received with the other prospective.

[@sarahberkner]

When some people talk about women having autonomy over their own body they really mean just the "right" to an abortion, when there are actually women forced into sex slavery that don't have autonomy over their bodies and a lot of people don't care about that as much because it's not considered a feminist issue for some reason. Some people actually think women's rights = being more sexual, which is dumb.

[@frozenraspberries1552]

@@sarahberkner I thought women's autonomy relating to the issue of consent was brought up quite often in discourse. It's just that there's a need to look at sex work more critically as an oppressive system of the patriarchy

[@wenqi7547]

guys 😭 it would not have been the same story. if u resurrected the baby it would be a story abt the baby as an orphan to a surgeon. likely adapting at such a slower rate without the nuances of the film. if u were to analyze every detail ur taking away enjoyment and the bigger picture of the film/story, ur hyperfixating on the autonomy of the women yet that’s not the purpose or message of the film? that’s like saying the buttons on a microwave r too big big but the objective of the microwave is to warm your food

[@wenqi7547]

to reply additionally, i believe the child inside the body serves as comedy and also a perspective on a more innocent and optimistic/primal perspective of the world without the rules of society already ingrained in her. if the girl were to be fully wiped, would she not just be a baby in essence? relearning everything? i get the uncomfortable feelings surrounding that fact but i do not believe there was any harm or malicious intent with that detail, albeit minor changes but it is not as bad as u guys make it out to be

[@kristadahl6809]

I hate this movie the imagery was so triggering I don’t care what it was suppose to represent hate that people call this art and I can’t believe that in one of the sex scenes there were 2 young boys involved. Hollyweird at its finest.

[@willowgaggero5997]

Two young boys?? Glad I turned it off before I got to that point.

[@JulenneEsquincaTapia]

This

[@PattisKarriereKarten]

@@willowgaggero5997 yes, I found that disgusting too. Their father or whoever that was supposed to be screwed Bella before them and explained how sec works. Disgusting behavior. Absolutely disgusting! In real life we arrest people that do that to children. But this is supposed art 🤮

[@ryanrodriguez1234]

When I heard what the story was about I was like sus 🤨 Why they tryna normalize this kinda grooming as behavior? Film looks amazing but what’s the point of the story?

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Right?! Definitely shocking

[@katleon312]

They definitely weren’t normalizing grooming. It was more about Bella breaking away from that state of imprisonment and living her own life shamelessly.

[@mlw9195]

I agree

[@anna.owo.]

​@@katleon312 "living her life shamelessy" she is a child sir, who adult men sexualise her and want her even before she could speak, she could not consent as didn't know the concept of sex and relationships. Why is women's sexual liberation always evolved around creepy men? Lady in the portrait is far greater about women's sexuality, showing women enjoying themselves and even have body hair. This movie here is male gazed

[@MadameCorgi]

​@@katleon312yes, and Mcandels appologies aknowdges he was creepy, so the film doesn't condone it.

[@lodden1119]

Holy shit.. she totally called it that it would get oscars..

[@PutWoodleyIn]

😄

[@sereinaglaser649]

Thank you for review. The film was extremly confusing and very disturbing. Too much of everything, like 🤢🤮. I think the same topic could have been shown much more different. Horrible.

[@Applepie024]

Loved hearing your perspective! I walked in having no idea what it would be about, and I was just so uncomfortable the whole time 😭

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Thank you! Yes a small warning would have been nice 😭😩

[@EricaMeeee]

@@PutWoodleyIn It would have been nice to know! There was a Lot.

[@DSCosmicNothing]

Great art often provokes feelings of discomfort because it challenges our preconceptions.

[@JulenneEsquincaTapia]

​@@DSCosmicNothingThere's great art and there's pretentious art

[@jakep714]

Bro I walked tf out like ✌️😬

[@MalnourishedGoat]

Same.

[@AndjelaVelickovic-hy4cz]

Same

[@davidlock8448]

Hated it. Makes me think less of Emma Stone.

[@cangaroojack]

Wait, why you may not like, or be confortable with the thematics and the plot of the movie, why would you think less of her?

[@saml302]

this movie felt like a bunch of artsy college bro's patting each other on the back abt how pro-sex positive feminist they are

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Well said lmaooo

[@solidway]

basically the pc bros from south park. that's the vibe I'm getting

[@esthert9146]

Please, feminist are just as bad.

[@rocksteady418]

hahaha 100%

[@roberjohnsmith]

Its much darker than that. That's like a normie interpretation. The real story line is its a bunch of elitist Hollywood p dough file types trying normalize disgusting things. I've read enough about rhe "artists" intent. And it truly was to "destigmatize" things that are normally taboo.... Ummmmmm, so he's trying go deatigmatize these things and they are normally tabbooo... but not to him and his ilk. To them, this is not taboo. They are showing us what they are into. It's the classic "devil tells you what they are doing and you won't believe it anyways" archetype. Literally the most evil people could come out and tell us what they do, and then say "it's just a joke" and then people will not take it seriously.

[@psalmregulated]

The response to this film confirms Hollywood’s pedophilia for me. They just put it in a costume.

[@monicajohnson990]

My first thought exactly! They've tried to normalize that shit in many movies/shows, and it somehow goes unnoticed.

[@l.s.d.5863]

You guys..... understand it was a metaphor, right? lol

[@Skyumi-Vk]

@@l.s.d.5863 Ya but the people in Hollywood are that last people that should be wagging their finger at anyone. They are the ones that spread this exploitation all over the world and this is just an add on to that. Showing all this sex to make a buck doesn't help stop the problem it just adds on to it. This is just Simple Jack with out the satire.

[@monicajohnson990]

@@l.s.d.5863 metaphor or not, it's still disturbing. Some things just shouldn't be made to be a metaphor

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

@@monicajohnson990 well apparently she's matured to the mental age of 18 by the time they're in Lisbon so... and she's in an adult body, nothing p3do about that

[@VickyG212]

I had the same experience watching the movie and I felt so alone because everyone else didn't seem to mind. That's a goddamn child! If they really wanted to explore the world 'without society's judgement' as they say, did they have to focus SO HEAVILY on sex? Can't she have a effing female friend? Man

[@EricaMeeee]

She did! Heh.

[@VickyG212]

@@EricaMeeee barely any screen time, and they also had sex

[@EricaMeeee]

@@VickyG212 I didn't say she was featured prominently or that they didn't.

[@strayfreckles]

exactly!

[@plantlifeforever6994]

It's entirely the point that the men around her exploited and abused her for her body, and the women taught her how to use it to benefit her financially. Her circumstances didn't make it very likely for her to have a female friend - the one woman she knew before Lisbon hated her, she was kept by the Dr and Ruffalo's character, who wanted to control her words and experiences - when you have a controlling partner they don't like you having friends who see their BS - this was demonstrated in the film when they're on the ship quite clearly. Edit: she also has 3 female friends throughout the movie 😅 and only sleeps with one of them...

[@thir13enghostsgrl101]

I’m so happy I’m seeing more people share this opinion. 😭 I thought I was going crazy seeing everyone cry, “You need to learn media literacy, you’re supposed to be uncomfortable with all the sex scenes!” Regarding the media literacy part, you HAD to see every single time she had sex to understand she was having sex?! Anyways though, I had a problem with this movie because it so desperately tried to frame itself as a feminist film. It was practically screaming in our faces that we’re meant to find the lead men characters deplorable, how Duncan was very obviously (and Max and God maybe less obviously) fetishized Bella for her childishness and wanted to take advantage of her for it; to control her and keep her pinned down. But how strongly is this criticism going to resonate when so much of the film is sex scenes? “The sex scenes were supposed to be bad!” Stop giving men THAT much credit. You really thought they were going to watch Emma Stone getting screwed THAT many times onscreen in the movie, while clearly physically enjoying the experience, and not enjoy it themselves?!?! This is a woman character who is completely conventionally attractive to men inside and outside the movie. With that, I think it’s also worth mentioning how the first sex scenes transpired between Duncan and Bella. This moment was when the film truly shifted from black and white to color, literally. Listen to the soundtrack that goes with the scene, it sounds fun, exciting and adventurous. There were countless sex scenes, but where were the scenes of her enjoying life, reading books, actually practicing her career as a surgeon, etc.? Where were the more candid details of female anatomy, like menstruation? Where was the horror and rage dealing with aftermath of realizing that she had been taken advantage of by men when she was still mentally a small child? Overall, I understand that a lot of the movie was fun. The actors and actresses sold it, the costumes were great, and the set was amazing. I don’t necessarily take an issue with people liking the movie. But I hate to see though is how it’s been put on a pedestal, and any criticism you may have with it gets shut down with “LEARN MEDIA LITERACY!!!” If the main goal of this movie truly was to “make people uncomfortable,” then the group of people you’re trying to advocate for in your film shouldn’t be the ones who are mainly feeling discomfort??

[@slumberland969]

Completely agree. If they were going to be so blatant and explicit with sexual maturation and exploration, they might have balanced it with other milestones in a woman’s life. So obviously directed by a man - such a disappointment and missed opportunity for a potentially poignant film. Moviegoers need alternatives to Marvel-verse but this ain’t it 😬

[@HerbBrid3]

Exactly. Every person who claims to not like it is accused of not having media literacy but the movie itself is very obvious in its intentions and wears its choice feminism on its sleeve. It’s not even that complicated.

[@Destinyirus278]

As a women it’s terrifying to me that so many people thought this movie was the best “feminist” movie (I’m like umm no that’s not).. it’s gloried PDFILE relationships masked as “art” & everyone is like “omg it’s just amazing art” I’m like No wtf?! Why does no one else see the issue with this movie? Like no one understand the concept she’s supposed to be a baby? Like wtf someone go check the computer of whoever wrote & directed this cuz this is disturbing 😭

[@andreaxleste]

Can’t believe Marilyn Monroe movie was put down due to the abuse endured, and people is now praising this!

[@vng1607]

yeah so i saw this with my dad and sister and then walked out 40 minutes in 😘

[@Jan-f4k5h]

It’s a portrait of a traumatized society, addressing generational trauma, abuse, grandiosity, and the horror of narcissism as a consequence. If the term “live” is reversed, it turns into “evil.” Consider pathological narcissism and reflect on Bella. This is not about moral judgment but about what we do to each other and the outcomes of this hubris.

[@nansformer]

I’m so happy to see someone actually pointing this out. It’s like everyone totally overlooked this aspect. I was grossed out throughout the whole thing.

[@JoaquinPhoenix-s3k]

What I do know is that many Horror Films and Fantasy Films have hidden messages that contain classified information disguised as a metaphor. I don't have a desire to see this, but the director's film Dog Tooth was about, sexual abuse, incest and mind control, and handlers speak in Code to control their victims, this was the message in Dogtooth. This was how most our families as Disney and Nickelodeon stars behaved. Now, in Poor Things, it's about the Genetic Experiments that our Government and Intelligence did to people, masked as a Steam Punk Fantasy Period Piece Horror/Comedy. Get Out was a film about Monarch Mind Control and Slavery, disguised as a Horror Film, Us, was about Clones and Human Experimentation. Emma Stone had a horrible life and was treated terribly, many actors do these films as Therapy for their own terrible life experiences to heal from trauma. I have no desire to watch this film, but it's a metaphor for some of the Eugenics and Social Experiments that have been done on people by our own Government. Perversions of Science that have been done by the Nazis and even the CCP. 🤢🤢🤢

[@InsomniBuddyTiny]

In my opinion i think they hold themselves too highly regarding this film. If you strip away all the aesthetics and visuals you are left with a lackluster story. I struggle to see the appeal of Bella Baxter and I'm so tired of Emma Stone or critics describing her character as unique or refreshing or "the true personification of freedom". The only thing unique about her is her origin and that's about it... there's so many women who live unapologetically shameless and in tune with their sexuality like Bella, she's basically the extreme side of humanity that we see literally everyday. I feel like there are ACTUAL people that can be classified as a different kind of human as Bella is described whilst being absolutely different from a hypersexual, eccentric woman. I don't know i just feel like this is just an overhyped story just because a European was behind it.

[@ubroc]

The most origonal story in a very very long time

[@ubroc]

I get your drift but the magic of this movie is how it uses known hollywood tropes for all it's characters, BSY as one of many, and developes the story with them in new and unusnal beautiful and hilarious ways. We all stand on the shoulders of giants.@@InsomniBuddyTiny

[@skandermahfoudh1838]

there is no need to strip those away, they are literally parts of the film. they make the film.

[@netta96]

The emperor's new clothes

[@sarahberkner]

I hate that feminists try to portray sexuality and womanhood as being the same thing, that really diminishes it and is literally objectifying women. It's not daring and brave for a woman to be overly sexual, it's cliche at this point. I do think Emma Stone's a good actress but I'm definitely not a fan after this.

[@Themarvelnerd2016]

I turned off the movie mid way through the movie because of how disgusting I thought saltburn was worse than this but This was saltburn times 100000000 of messed up

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Oof been meaning to check out saltburn I thought it was supposed to be worse than poor things. I wish I could turned it off but I was at the theater

[@Themarvelnerd2016]

@@PutWoodleyIn bruh I feel happy that I didn’t see poor things in the cinema and saltburn too honestly I need to watch better movies that are not disturbing nonsense like sultburn and poor things

[@fishcakepro]

Watching men and women review this movie really shows the difference of analysis when the audience isn't watching from the male gaze. I was shocked that it got such high ratings. There's a ton of incredible work in this film. There are also a ton of major flaws.

[@nazmo_za9654]

as a dad of twins, one being a 3 yr old girl. this movie disgusted me. i couldnt finish it when this became apparent

[@rafaelguida2317]

I can't tell you how big of a relief i had when i knew I wasn't alone thinking this way. It seems to me the movie heartlessly showed pedo scenes as a way to convey a message about freedom that itself is important BUT: the fact it "moves on" from the fact that Victoria/Bella's freedom got taken away right in the start just disturbs me so much. I was constantly looking away from the screen as I couldn't feel comfortable knowing that was a literal child/teen being gaslighted by bizarre adults. "Maybe that itself is the critic" - I wondered. But it's clear that the whole plot leads us towards criticizing another aspects of society which might themselves be really really valid, but again, it is clear the movie shows little effort in conveying how terrible of a person the doctor is. I was so angry seeing them hug at the end. I think this movie really represents the director: technically brilliant, morally misleading, and disgusting

[@unapologeticallyintroverte9032]

Saw funny clips of this movie on tik tok and decided to check it out; was weirded out by all the sex and awkwardness 🥴. And what was William Defoe burping up? The apprentice was REALLY gonna marry a reanimated woman with the brain of a child??!?

[@PutWoodleyIn]

LMAOOO RIGHT?! They never addressed the burping!

[@sarahberkner]

I don't know why more people don't look at reviews before seeing a movie, the R rating was enough to convince me not to see it but I also read a few KZbin comments that implied it was inappropriate. There was also a movie about cannibalism that came out a couple years ago and I figured out pretty quickly that's what it was about and I don't watch horror movies anyway, but some people were somehow surprised in the theater.

[@unapologeticallyintroverte9032]

@sarahberkner I don't always read reviews because my opinion and enjoyment are essentially the only things that matter when it comes to movie watching. Also, I try to avoid spoilers. I never saw any negative comments before viewing this movie; an R rating wouldn't have scared me away either. Nothing wrong with checking out a movie that piqued your interest and formulating your opinion while doing so.

[@sputzelein]

@@sarahberkner The more interesting question for me is: Why do people want to see those movies? I mean how bored can you be with life, with other movies you`ve seen, to fancy surch weido stuff. Is it the kick of "i`ve seen it all I need more of the drug"? Is it the braggin g on the school korridor "guess what I saw yesterday"? Yeah I did it too but I was 12 then!

[@dianaizzy960]

I didn’t like this film. Aesthetically yes, the wardrobe, music, visuals are amazing but the plot is disturbing. The baby brain in a grown woman’s body, the men in the film taking advantage of her, the CONSTANT NUDITY AND SEX SCENES ARE U KIDDING ME. Overall, it was fine to watch once but I don’t think I’ll ever rewatch it again. And that’s just my opinion. The actors and actresses were amazing in it, it was just overall very VERY uncomfortable.

[@acivilright]

I'm subscribing because I'm just thankful to see a non-fawning review. Imo Emma Stone won for the same reason Halle Berry won for Monster's Ball: the sex and nudity. Just as sure as the Academy will give an Oscar to anyone black playing a slave or hired help. Her acting was not that great imo. And the story... Nah, not trying to watch a child-woman get bonked across continents. It's crazy you can jump to your death on rocks in an ocean no less but you're unscathed and still beautiful. No body hair except eyebrows up and a bush? No baybee: that's not very immersive. 0/10 do not recommend.

[@belenlg5978]

I read the book when I was 13 (nerdy girl and not interested in sex at all) and I loved it. A bizarre surprise I couldnt stop reading. I knew the criticism about the movie and was wary it was going to be all sex, but in total it must be like 10-15 minutes out of a 2 hour movie? I thought it was pretty clear that the movie made fun of weak men who think an innocent highly sexual controllable woman is the ideal woman. Most of the men in the movie are depicted as creepy, abusive and/or pathetic, and I felt most sex scenes were shot to be uncomfortable or clinical, not arousing. Still, I preferred the book and it's elegant ending that comes with a twist and leaves you wondering what is the truth

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

yeah I also think the sex was just sex for pleasure and not supposed to be a turn on, it was actually filmed in a kind of funny way. One reason I think it was that way is because my autistic cousin who will always leave if there is a sex scene, sat in the cinema with his mother and was totally unbothered by these ones.

[@raiG96]

Omg thank you!!! At least one sensical comment that understands the meaning of the film deeper than surface level. I'm upset reading all the comments of people who take the film at face value and don't know how to interpret beyond what's literally on screen.

[@Disc_Rat]

I'm really glad this review exists. You provide an essential perspective!

[@sarahgoulart.j]

A lot of people are complaining about how fucked up and weird this movie is, how it's so exploitative and disgusting, but I'm pretty sure that IS the point. You're supposed to be weirded out by it, to be horrified that these man are taking adventage of Bella's naivety, that Godwin would create this experiment instead of saving the mother, all of it... Yes, this movie is very fucked up, but it is on purpose. I also see a lot of people saying that she's a child, and i have to remind you that the "child brain" thing is mostly a metaphor. She does have an infant's brain, but we're not supposed to take it literally, it's more like a representation of a blank canvas, someone who has no experience with living in society and takes everything with childlike wonder. The movie is clearly set in a fantastical and surrealist world so that we understand that none of it is real. That being said, of course everyone can have their own opinions and interpretations of things, and if that movie wasn't for you and made you uncomfortable, that's totally okay!! You don't have to like it, but please don't act like everyone who enjoyed it is a freak and a moral failure. It's more complex than that.

[@MysteriousD3]

Finally a kindred that understands that this movie in a sense is art, and i mean to say that art isn’t just beautiful and joyous but is sad melancholic vile dare i say reflective because we live in a world where characters are made to be likeable but in poor things we get a sense that everyone is vile in their own way just like reality

[@jessefarrell698]

Thanks for your take on this! Haven't seen it yet, might not now. It takes so little effort to write something without instant ick, that it only makes it domino into something worse. I genuinely thought it was supposed to be all those things you started with in the beginning. Great video!! Thanks for the heads up!!

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Thanks for the comment! I wish I had gotten a head up fr. I'm just glad I went with my friend instead of parents 😬. If you do go see it please let me know your thoughts!

[@mlw9195]

@@PutWoodleyInyou should do more reviews! I like your opinions and your editing! (I subbed)

[@bay4081]

The movie was very technically well done but it was the plot that made me hate it. I could not look past the weird justification of wanting to marry a toddler just because she was in a sexy woman’s body. And the weird thing of ‘I would marry her if my maternal instincts didn’t disrupt my sexual thoughts’??? How gross. Plus I felt the movie was very slow. There was no 1st 2nd 3rd act and it paced the movie very weirdly. I got extremely angry towards the end because I just wanted to movie to finish already and it *never would*. Honestly once it got to the point Max and Godwin were arranging the marriage I was done with the movie. I knew they were only going to make the marriage the final goal and it disgusted me. Tainted the rest of the movie and I just wanted to leave. And with the lack of three Acts, it felt absurdly slow. It might’ve been really cool in the right movie, but not this one. There was also very little plot. I thought it was going to be a movie about this, or that, and it never became that. It started one plot and never ended it only to start another. I’m all for breaking artistic rules but finish *something* goddammit! I did love the entire cast though, and the transition between b/w to color, and the surreal scenery was gorgeous and beautifully done. The music was brilliantly uncomfortable. It was twistedly funny and I think it had potentially good messages to it… if it weren’t for this weird pedophilloic undertone it had set at the very beginning.

[@alwaysobserving919]

I was unable to finish the movie. After learing shes mentally a toddler and then everybodys talking about her like a sexual being. Just felt icky

[@wendellwiggins3776]

YES I enjoyed the psychological dynamics that demonstrates how the insecure possessive double-standard jealous ego of many men often destroys relationships but thereafter is where the STORY devolves and her maturity into a socially adjusted young woman never arrives. In fact there is little or no narrative beyond that! Then she unemotionally dives into debauchery like a AI robot rather than a maturing young woman. Basically there is no real plot or subplot outside of Bella's own head and that amazes me to think that many applauding the film have little or no interest in, plot. Imagine PT without the great visuals. The Story would be very weak! If she had evolved like a normal child there may have been more than her nymphomania to focus on instead she evolves like a AI Robot. I GOT BORED when her character simply didn't develop into maturity which caused the film to go nowhere emotionally without any dramatic fulfilling narrative of conflict resolution. Glossy & fascinating visually, Interesting dark premise & concept with wonderful cast and acting, but a bit weak in terms of narrative intrigue and dramatic intensity that resolved or without any of the orgasmic pleasure & climaxes like those she enjoyed throughout the film! And why no sexual desires for her most humane & honest encounter, the Black guy? LOL! I just left the theater without feeling any lasting "emotional" impact & felt just as COLD AS SHE WAS towards most everyone and everything. After a while a child's brain becomes self-conscious about their social actions and that goat was just silly. SMH. Her 2 dimensional evolution didn't evolve the story. Nothing deep about this film. Just pretty filmmaking & surface bling. BTW I love strange avant-garde films but this was no brilliantly written, Terry Gilliam or Guillermo Del Toro cinematic gem

[@PutWoodleyIn]

UGH! Your so much better at putting my thoughts into words. YES I was wondering why I was so intrigued in the first and second act but by act three I was like hmm ok. I'm BORED! it was because yes Bella became one note and there was no more plot to be written. I really appreciate that you see the movie for what it is. You see exactly what it gave us. Instead of just loving it blindly because it's beautiful shot or the sets are creative.

[@wendellwiggins3776]

@@PutWoodleyIn I appreciate that you appreciate my ramblings. And I like that you saw through the weakness of the film without blindly clapping like a seal to all the glossy eye candy distractions.

[@mlw9195]

Thats interesting because i liked the 3rd act. I too didnt care for the goat, i assumed theyd theyd switch brains/ put Willems character's brain in that bad guys body OR something interesting not put the bad dudes brain into a goat

[@PutWoodleyIn]

I thought that too! I was wondering why she just didn't switch their brains 🤔

[@lucianadosanjos4070]

I love when you said "her maturity into a socially adjusted young woman never arrives" ; "she unemotionally dives into debauchery "; "if she had evolved like a normal child" ; "a child's brain becomes self-conscious about their social actions"... All these phrases you used are so interesting because that is exactly what the movie is about. It is about what a woman's experience would be (or could be like) if we didn't have so much social conditioning on us, if we didn't have so many men around us trying to control us, control our bodies, control our minds and our behaviour. That's the plot. Imagine if a woman's sexual experience or sexual journey was NOT referred to as "debauchery " or "ninphomania ". Imagine what it would be like to explore pleasure, pain, knowledge without any of the social conditioning we get... That's the plot of the movie and I think that's a super interesting one.

[@run2cat4run]

I couldn’t finish this film since it’s basically Lolita

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

Lolita is a child in a child's body. When they got to Lisbon she had matured to the age of 18, and she's in a mature body, so how is that p3dofilia?

[@brooklynsbaby4367]

@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare she was 18 but still had the motor skills of a toddler?

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

@@brooklynsbaby4367 well how do you think people who's been in a coma are walking around at first??

[@brooklynsbaby4367]

@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare She's an adult by the end of the movie. At best she is a teenager on the cruise ship, in Lisbon she is still a kid.

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

@@brooklynsbaby4367 well your interpretation is yours to have, but the people who made the movie wasn't making it that way, and I didn't view it like you, maybe it depends on how we view it how much we'll like it

[@willowloe6917]

The dance scene was fucking awesome and I loved the imagery but this broke my HEART I waited forever for this and it stabs me in my heart. She’s groomed and assaulted and none of it says female empowerment this pissed me off

[@Nirrini]

I really thought the world had gone mad. And they were praising this as a “weird comedy”? The movie was truly repulsive 🤢

[@pensarebasketball]

I think it's fair to say the child brain is a metaphor for how much society attempts to mute the growth of women into independent adults. If you view it less literally, it's insightful instead of disgusting. It's still disturbing but for a different reason.

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

I don't get why people wanna take a fantastical movie like this and try to make it fit into reality... but those people can't enjoy things it seems, always have to try and find something negative about everything.

[@jack8162]

Nah, it wasn't a metaphor, the character was literally a baby in an adult body. What's truly insightful is the weird need some people have to justify it.

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

@@jack8162 So when the creators of the movie tell you that she's maturing super fast you still refuse to believe it? Maybe believe what the people who made the movie and what their vision is.

[@jack8162]

@staygold_youreyestell6308 sounds a lot like "she's seems way older" or "she's mature for her age", the same lines pedos use

[@esthert9146]

Just wow at your statement and you are the reason our society is falling apart.

[@seraphini1248]

Comparing this movie to men who date women ten years younger than them, is a pathetically immature take

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Elaborate?

[@seraphini1248]

The movie is about fucking a baby child. Not the same thing. Is that elaborated enough for you?

[@seraphini1248]

@@PutWoodleyIn the movie is about screwing a baby child, it's not the same. Is that elaborated enough for you?

[@xenomorph6599]

People will buy anything, even a child being sexually exploited (a literal baby's mind in a body that cant be criminalized for abusing it), if "empowerment" "frivolous sex" and "this movie is so avante garde" or shite tbh, is labelled on it. Fucking gross

[@Badgergoodboy]

I saw it. I was not impressed.

[@PutWoodleyIn]

It had so much potential 😭

[@Antyoksydantka85]

​@@PutWoodleyIn yeah it definitely had potential if it were made without all that grooming and abusing filth and her bizarre nymphomania at this age... eww so cringey. 😢 It could have shown more interesting and important aspect of exploring the world as child, then made her fall in teen, romantic love with some young guy, focusing on emotional aspects, attachment, yearning and such, instead of treating human body, especially woman's body as just a body, a piece of meat made solely for "furious jumping". But, WHO CARES NOWADAYS; majority of watchers are brainwashed af and they'd go for any porn with a plot, lol/sadly. :')

[@buahahaevillaugh1113]

Getting nothing from it? For more than two hours we were watching how generational trauma got passed on from father to son and from the son to his 'daughter'. How she struggled to break free from it, to not let it define her, how she made some progress only to in the end end up treating her 'sister' the exact way she wished she wouldn't have been treated by her 'father'. Barely like a human being. We saw how an abused child normalised his father's behaviour as a show of his love and later as a parent himself he showed affection the exact same way. And the fact that nearly every man in Bella's life tried to keep her captive, under his control, under the guise of protecting her, but Bella would have none of it. The movie had a lot to say about feminism, grooming, the cycle of generational trauma, how our natural instincts play into who we are, our relationship with death,societal expectations and how liberating but also potentially dangerous it is to break free of them. What will keep us in check when we have no regard for what is socially acceptable? We watched Bella crash that feog and later come to realize the meaning of death and cruelty. It's also of note that the sexual scenes were not there for enjoyment. They were put there with the clear purpose of making us feel uncomfortable. While none of Bella's scenes lacked consent or pleasure, seeing the act so raw made us even disgusted. It really drew home how out of touch with our body are most of us. PS: Bella's hair growing extremely quickly was a nod to her brain developing faster than normal to catch up to her body. By the end of the movie she'd grown from an infant to an adult. The movie was very twisted and I can't comprehend how someone who wants to send those messages comes to the conclusion that he'll present them in this way. Honestly. I don't know what's going on in Lanthimos' brain, but it must be very chaotic in there. But there's certainly many things he wanted to say, and he did.

[@Alnivol666]

I think most people already know about the stuff you try to say this movie pushes and have very healthy moral takes on it. Stop excusing this filth. If watching an adult body with a baby's brain in it getting railed by countless men during more than 2 hrs speaks to you, you might want to ask yourself some questions.

[@turas2630]

funnily enough she was not growing hair on her legs and underneath arms lmao !

[@RR-on4sk]

Growing fast but completely shaved with no cycle huh. Sorry we can see through the bs

[@itzesmi]

This is basically Hollywoods "its ok for kids to be sexually abused cuz look how quirky and Look she is dancing 💃 and enjoying the sex..." its gross ! Dont be fooled by the nice cinematography and acting . The STORY is disgusting

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

guess all people who goes into a coma only to forget everything and have to learn everything again are babies.

[@jamesjones5023]

I thought I was the only one who walked out of the movie. This disgusting

[@TheBookofBeasts]

Let’s say we even put aside the baby brain part. She is also a rich girl that could send a letter home and return whenever she wanted to. She also doesn’t become human. She would be traumatized by the things that happened to her but magically she isn’t. Then she becomes her father in the end. The plot is terrible. Baby brain android rich girl goes on sexual abuse journey and then becomes her father. And she cares about poor people for what?…Two seconds. Great actors, beautiful sets and cinematography, the script is often extremely interesting and unexpected. But when the absurdity wears off the entire plot falls apart. If the main character is never truly changed but what happens to them, then what was the point of telling the story?

[@Otter__Chaos]

Thank you for this review!! Trailer was so misleading that my mother in law took us to see it for her birthday. She walked out an hour in. Saved us all. This movie quickly turned into totally unnecessary scenes of explicit sexual abuse. Legal way to play out a sick fantasy. Traumatizing content.

[@EricaMeeee]

Abuse?

[@jenmha]

Mark Ruffalo’s character snuck into Bella’s room, introduced himself and immediately stuck his hand in between her legs. That’s sexual assault.

[@strayfreckles]

​@jenmha gosh, I wanted to forget that. This movie left me feeling so bad at the end, would never watch it again.

[@omeometeotl]

to me this movie was about the human psyche, innocence lost, growing up quickly, rejecting societial/social norms, owning your sexuality, becoming self reliant, exploring yourself, experiencing the world in all its beauty and horror, and so much more. i found it spectacular and thought provoking. side note: i feel like a lot of people dont realize that most people in the movie dont know about her situation (child’s mind in woman’s body) aside from Godwin i think perhaps only his assistant knew. so the characters apart from those two dont see her as a child, they see her as the age she physically looks. also i feel like a lot of people missed when Godwin explained that her mind was developing at an exponential rate so while she does start off with the mind of a toddler you can see how quickly she matures with her speech becoming more and more advanced to the point where she becomes an avid reader and socializes with people who open her mind with their different perspectives leading her to join a political group with weekly meetings (if i remember correctly). doesnt she even learn french? anyway i was under the impression that she matured quickly into a young adult by the time she starts exloring the world.

[@adaugo123456789]

My thoughts exactly! In the beginning I was weary, by the end I loved it !

[@omeometeotl]

@@adaugo123456789 yup same i was like where is this going but by the end i was in awe

[@scmanley4229]

A lot of people missed the exponential mental growth part, which is unfortunate. I’m only into art movies if they have a point and this one had a great point!

[@omeometeotl]

@@scmanley4229 yup!

[@ungabunga6735]

I just finished watching this movie and I thought it was brilliant. I watched not knowing what to expect so I’m glad I experienced it that way. I didn’t care for all the sex scenes but I became genuinely interested in the Bella character and where the story would go after a certain point and how it would end. It kinda was like a Frankenstein/ Forrest Gump kind of story but very different from both and as she said amazing cinematography, acting and set and costume design.

[@BrozeStiller]

me and a friend watched it without knowing and turned it off as soon as she started M-ing cuz the fact she was a child made us just so viscerally uncomfortable.

[@simonelara2850]

It took me three sittings to get through this movie, and I still HATED it.

[@PidgeonRoost]

I’ll be honest, I think I’m the only person who percieved the movie in this way but: I love the movie because it spoke to me in a very Autistic way. Bella is described directly as an infant in a grown body, a grown person who is still childish, but she was still remarkably intelligent even if it wasnt socially. The movie, set in the 1990’s ish, literally refers to her as a “Pretty *r-slur*”, and while it was jarring to hear, it’s the terms they would’ve used then. Even the way her sexuality is shown in the beginning, the idea of “Of it feels good why is it wrong” is a common experience because it’s that disconnect and not understanding the differences between socially acceptable and it being bodily functions. She is very rigid walking, but despite that I never feel as though the movie degrades her for it. She’s different, and the world see’s Bella negatively for it, but bella never is ashamed, she never is put down for her experiences. and even as she “ages”, she still has those quirks, those different perspectives of the world and how it SHOULD work, and it sucks to me that a movie that speaks SO deeply to me as an autistic woman is hated BECAUSE it’s bizarre, and grotesque, and uncomfortable. Because thats the lived experience of someone like me, learning my place and how MY brain interacts is uncomfortable and painful, but I, bella, shouldnt be put down apon for it. To me, this movie is the Definition of the idea “Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable”. The story and gross and grotesque, but it’s not saying rhose things were good. It’s showing different experiences that many wont understand but others will grab onto. Both me and the friend who went and watched this are very neruodivergent, and the movie spoke to both of us in it’s complexity. It feels like a movie everyone will taje something different from, where that thing is good or not.

[@MinomeEslinde]

This resonates, as an AuDHDer myself, late realization, this movie that so many people find uncomfortable, weird or worse, was very recognizable to my experience of living in the neurotypical world, noticing and speaking up about the inconsistencies only to get socially punished for it "this is not polite". People trying to force us in a mold, to fit their wants. Trying to subdue her with extreme medical violence even, see the last scene before the ending that the protagonist fortunately detected in time and could thwart. I got lucky to watch the movie on it's own premises, after recommendations in the alternative lifestyle circuit. As an European, the intimate scenes don't bother that much. The abuse attempts some succesful were unsettling, though over time she reversed the tables on the perpetrators, who then whine pulling a DARVO, as in off screen life. In the end, she thrives. The other can nibble grass and leaves. Another bonus point, for the acting including the dance scene, that's a high intensity performance requiring lots of practice and stamina.

[@Magnate1992]

Hollywood loves to sell a disturbing movie. Thank you for your review. I appreciate it.

[@thesensationaladventuresof1150]

How did I not know this movie existed. More important WHY does this movie exist?!

[@tarass8737]

Hollywood literally said if it looks adult its fckable. Literally! She is a baby, A BABY!!!!!!!!!!! FORGET THE BODY, think of it like if the baby was actually born and some how ended up with those characters. Would that be okay???????????

[@delloliod]

So glad I did not go see this in theaters. What a triggering premise to go into with no warning.

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

lol I remember seeing Shame at the cinema, there was two older couples watching it, probably in their 60s or 70s, the men said who wants to watch this crap, but the women loved it. People just have different taste.

[@NicholasWolfwood-md7vm]

Lol the women loved it because Michael Fassbender's large wiener is on screen haha.

[@Love-hn6hi]

I think we're shocked because of what's been going on with the Me two movement. That there was so much nudity in this movie. It did bother me a little bit at the beginning but more that I got to know the characters and what Bella has gone through I got over it. I enjoy the movie. I absolutely love this movie 💞 🎬 😻 🎭 🍿

[@olga8p1]

I am sooooooo agree with you, uncomfortable is understatement for this…..- I felt the strong smell of vomit starting her liberation adventures…..

[@samanthafields434]

Poor Things, more like Porn Things. And bad porn at that.

[@Apacheman37]

I’m going to refer to it as porn things from now on lmao

[@YorgosL1]

thought you are so funny …

[@samanthafields434]

@@YorgosL1 thank you

[@YorgosL1]

@@samanthafields434 unfunny…

[@samanthafields434]

@@YorgosL1 thank you "...."

[@jessiedobbiereactions]

This is the only review that I have found that made sense to me. Subscribed! This movie was absolutely bizarre and not in a good way.

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Thanks for the support! Hope to see you in another video :)

[@amandajj1781]

A coworker encouraged me to watch this film. I didn't know what it was about at all. I got high and turned it on. I'm convinced this movie was made to be watched while high because if I was sober watching this I'd be completely shocked and appalled as you all. But I'm so mesmerized by how this movie combined horror classic, Sci fi, and porn into one movie that I can't just see the messed up part.

[@stacytotten5208]

i could not finish it. what the hell?? definitely a sign of the times. pornography straight up

[@heyskipj]

They could cut the whole cruise ship scenario. Did we really need them to meet the old lady and her valet? Just to tell her that people are cruel and you can masturbate in old age? Instead, lose money, become a prostitute, and take care of all that in Lisbon, etc. It would have played better and saved 30 minutes of my life. That whole part was for Oscar fodder. I thought it was a strong sci-fi premise. I didn't know that and was optimistic 15 minutes in. But the movie whitewashes Bella's growth for 2 1/2 hours. I didn't understand why Bella went from a human baby with all the feelings--laughing, anger, sadness, curiosity, showing confusion early on... to her turning into a movie android--an unaffected character explaining her feelings instead of feeling her feelings. I guess all because she discovered how to masturbate with fruit? Ugh. Art deco cinematography and fisheye-apartment peephole lenses can't save a bad movie. Performances were fairly good. But Bella's story arc? So thin. So.... loooong. It brought the whole movie down. Stone was too wooden. The assistant's story journey was set up to ground us and be our "eyes" into this crazy world. But his motivations were uneven and unfinished. And his character was mostly out of the movie! Ruffalo was great, but repetitive? Couldn't wait for it to be over. 4/10.

[@maisonfuller4382]

I thought that the cruise was an important section for Bella’s character in which she starts reading literature and learning about what the world is actually like and subsequently starts forming opinions on how she wants to be as a person. It makes her start questioning society from economic standpoints and stuff like that etc

[@Apacheman37]

Every time I paused it, I said to myself. “Gonna take a quick break before Emma time gets railed, again.” I really don’t understand why there are so many provocative scenes, especially since they say she’s like a child. I was so uncomfortable and that’s not a good thing. I still don’t really know what’s it’s about

[@theghostisdead]

What's funny is that is not a new trope. Fifth Element, Weird Science, and the Wife of Frankenstein etc. are similar characters. What's concerning is that the character is a sociopath and young adults may think this is acceptable behavior.

[@xavierharding8938]

I can't help but wonder if this was Hollywood's retort to the brilliant movie Sound of Freedom ?

[@YorgosL1]

Sound of freedom is dog sht

[@Have_a_nice_day713]

In the few moments where there is no "VigOrOUs jUmPiNG" on screen, the movie is visually interesting. Other than that there is nothing good and ESPECIALLY nothing liberating and empowering about this movie. That's a toddler. She isn't ready to make the decisions she's making, and she should be protected, NOT liberated. And even if you argue that she grew up near the end, she should have been horrified looking back at what was equivalent to her childhood with adult eyes. It shouldn't have been a "liberating journey" that was filled with things that "just sorta happened". It's like a worse version of that series the weekend made, where the only "liberation" is the aspects that align with the male gaze, if it's even truly liberation at all.

[@ramunebradfordtake2710]

Question, have you seen the director's other works like Dogtooth or The Favorite, Killing of the Sacred Deer, The Lobster? Plus the whole story from the book is a satire.

[@PutWoodleyIn]

No I haven't! Are any of husbother films any good? I heard The Lobster is very weird so I always avoided it. But I didn't know it was the same guy 😭

[@ramunebradfordtake2710]

Well he's an acquired taste like The Safdie Brothers. I personally love his work, he's like a less angry Gaspar Noe.I would say his most digestible film for most people is The Favorite. Start with that.

[@PutWoodleyIn]

I'll definitely look into that one since Emma is in it too. You should start a channel too! Seems like you know what you're talking about.

[@stefaniagozzer2268]

@@ramunebradfordtake2710 I love his work too. But Poor Things is not good, sorry but no.

[@ramunebradfordtake2710]

@stefaniagozzer2268 That doesn't say anything as to why you did not like it. Not saying that to come off as sarcastic, honestly curious on your interpretation.

[@13bigbangtheory]

It’s disgusting and plays off of the “just born yesterday” trope that plays into the infantilization and sexualization of women and children. Painting exploitation as liberation is incredibly problematic and gross. I’m tired of creative spaces taking these things and says they are “confronting controversial topics” when they actually create a safe space for creeps. It reminds me of cuties and the people who defended it.

[@danniia1827]

I had no idea what to expect when I walked in, 20 minutes in I was like... wtf am I watching???? It was disturbing, weird, funny, twisted, emotional, raw, uncomfortable, fantastical yet so real, unpredictable... I loved it!!!!!! It surprised me and shocked me, loved it!

[@reiniergarcia]

Freak. Get help.

[@Itsyagirllizzy69]

The problem I had with this movie was not the fact that the brain of the child was in a woman the fact that they took three concepts from different movies like Tim Burton, the bride of Frankenstein and other movies that have already been pulled out and have stolen the ideas from them that’s what’s annoyed me and the fact that It’s just a uncomfortable movie and I don’t even think it’s gonna win an Oscar to be honest and it makes me angry. I turned my movie off on Disney+ after 20 minutes of watching it because I thought it was a movie that shouldn’t even been released to be honest.

[@rachelreid1585]

This movie was so disturbing. I understand that everyone has a subjective point of view and that some would somehow see this movie as a triumph. I don't see it that way at all. The fact that Bella is a child during much of the film as she was exploited was horrifying - but I think the excuse they had for all the sex was that she "learned 15 words a day" as if she was growing at an alarmingly rapid rate. Thats a poor excuse. It's true that every man she came across in the film was taking advantage of her but the most disturbing thing about it is that she seemed to be enjoying every bit of it. I'm not sure if it was meant for her to be ignorant of whats actually going on - but I saw absolutely no growth from her character in this regard. And that's confusing because for a split moment, she was starting to understand some of the more sorrowful realities of the world such as the life of those less privileged, literally dying of starvation (when she gave all of mark ruffalo's money away). I thought that was the point in which we would finally see her become aware of the more important lessons to learn besides her carnal appetite for sex, however...the next hour and a half of the film was just sex. This is shocking to me since Bella comes up with a hypothesis at the end of every experience - and from what I could see, she wasn't experiencing any sexual liberation but was an active participant of her own exploitation. Especially when she seemed more than happy to be part of a sex education lesson for a father and his sons. I would feel differently about the movie if she actually learned something other than sex and gained some autonomy and integrity in the film much sooner than that last 10 minutes of a 3 hour movie. What a waste of good cinematography and costume and set designs for something so unapologetically perverse.

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

would I be a baby/child if I went into a coma and forgot everything about life? no memories, no memory of how to speak or move my body, having to learn it all over again, should I then be treated as a baby or an adult? I would of course be treated as an adult and that would help shape my brain into that state. It's a brain, from an infant yes, but it attaches to the mature body and so it's treated as a woman, not baby. She's not a baby or child, she's being shaped into a woman, because her form is a woman.

[@JuguitodeUwU555]

Todo mecote xD tell me you know nothing about human and brain developing without telling me you know nothing about it xD hajaja omg, you made me laugh so hard!! Please stay away from adult disabled people :) you will think they can consent because they have adults bodys xD hahahaah

[@tokki6085]

@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare Your comment makes no sense and not comparable to taking a literal baby’s brain. When you’re in a coma and lose your memories, you’re still a freaking adult. You still think and feel like an adult, all you did was lose memories. if a child goes in a coma, they are still a child. That’s how real life works. In the movie they took a baby’s brain and put it into an adult body, that means that body is a baby/toddler. Even though on the outside they look like adult, their feelings, thoughts, they way they process things is that of a child. They insinuated that this body is that of a child. THE movie made the audience believe and feel this way. This has NOTHING to do with memories. So you can keep your statement and justification. I don’t know why you guys can’t catch a grip on that. Once you do, you would understand how disgusting this film is. And it’s a shame that you’re a Stay.

[@rachelreid1585]

⁠​⁠@@tokki6085my comment doesn’t make sense to YOU. And that’s fine. We all are putting our opinion out there. So since that’s the case and you feel the need to judge my comment, you can keep YOUR statement and justification. I can read all the comments and not fucking judge their opinion regardless of whether it makes sense to me. Grow the hell up. Peace ✌️

[@tokki6085]

@@rachelreid1585 Honey I wasn't even talking to you. I literally agree with your statement. I was talking to the person that is below your comment. Please read before coming at me

[@maryleene5431]

I just watched the movie & i was like WTF. ..

[@jdkingsley6543]

I hear They had children watching adults have sex in the film? Is this true?

[@PutWoodleyIn]

Yes, it was one of the scenes.

[@netta96]

Wow. How disgusting.

[@mainmac]

In a very similar manner to Monty Python's The Meaning of Life

[@PattisKarriereKarten]

The adult wanted to „explain“ two younger boys how sex works and used Bella for it. The boys took notes while watching. Truly horrific. When kids are exposed like this in real life the adult usually gets arrested for child abuse.

[@mainmac]

@@PattisKarriereKarten yes, it's dark comedy, I wouldn't call it horrific, just disturbing. Many of the events in the film would qualify as much worse on a moral level IRL, and the film wasn't condoning what was happening in that scene. But honestly I think that scene struck a very good balance of WTF-ism over the buildup to events at that point while also showing the purity of Bella's understanding of scientific inquisitiveness while having a total obliviousness to social norms. Frankly I would find it interesting if people broke down the scene into the aspects that they found most disturbing about it. Even proper sex education IRL can be mistreated as child abuse, and if you removed the brothel and parental involvement, making it part of a structured curriculum that insured it was strictly educational, would you still find it objectionable?

[@Flutter_Aeina]

I’m seeing so many people praise the hell out of this and even hearing a basic summary and review of the movie by LavenderTowne made me feel sick. Like why would you ever think using a woman with the brain of a baby is a good idea for a message presumably about sexual liberation?? I’ve heard people calling this the “feminist Frankenstein” as if the og Frankenstein wasn’t inherently feminist.

[@EricaMeeee]

her brain Starts as a baby. Then, Grows. Quickly. Spoiler?: She's adult and extremely intelligent by the end.

[@Alnivol666]

@@EricaMeeee Nope. Not really. She still gets ran through as a toddler. Which would cause all sorts of trauma before even reaching adulthood. She is a sex object. If this is what feminists consider liberating, I feel sorry for them.

[@andrielioliveirabarros9880]

I loved it. Yes I saw many unreasonable things. Yes I felt uncomfortable many times. But I do love this kind of movie and I was sick of biographies, social messages, drama, war..Eeew Considering all the weird stuff the only one I think was misrepresented was female sexuality and woman hipersexualization, which was obviously explained because men were involved in production. I guess. Anyways. Nothing takes out my reborn happiness on watching Oscars movies.

[@AndersonReis42]

I don't want to watch this movie, but I've read about the book it was based on. Apparentely, this whole story was made up and the other half of the book is just the woman telling how it really was.

[@m.calexander8914]

Oh I thought I was the only one that thought the sexual aspects were very disturbing since she had the Brain of a child. I didn’t finish watch it I watched 40 -50 mins of it. I had wanted to watch it since soooo many movie reviews said it was weird but very good movie. But it just was not sitting right with me to finish it.

[@maritzadiaz9000]

If they just implied the sex maybe it wouldn’t have been too bad 😓.. the graphic sex wasn’t necessary. It just always feels like they’re exploiting these amazing actresses.

[@Angelesoflordgod]

Lots of issues. didn’t like how she was child like and taking advantage of. very sickening

[@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare]

she wasn't so why would that sicken you. she wasn't a child.

[@yurikotoga]

It's almost as if the movie is supposed to make you uncomfortable! What an exotic concept!

[@anna.owo.]

The creator and media around it say it a feminist retelling of an actuals feminists book and that it about female liberation about sex, so no, it is supposed to be empowering when a toddler is being taken advanced. And you don't need to have sex scenes to pass a message, it is sick.

[@amanalone3473]

@@anna.owo. What the fuck? Did you even watch it?

[@EricaMeeee]

what?@@anna.owo.

[@andrielioliveirabarros9880]

So the movie is about empowering women. Eventhough, you watch pedophilia, nymphomania, hyperssexualization. Today most of women are triggered by a good talk, feelings of protection, security. Women dont feel aroused just by visual impression like men. Women feel aroused once in a month close to ovulation period. I wonder if those frequent and instant arousals are male's type and if so, The reason we are different is due to patriarchy rather then biology

[@endymion3071]

You mean like Cuties?