It's a sad story that the in-game Brenus ERA provides only 5 mm vs KE while IRL it was close to 100 mm (this is a thick heavy box, nothing like the Kontakt-1). The AMX-30B2 BRENUS also had a powerful DU APFSDS, the OFL 105 F2 as the tungsten OFL 105 F1 was deemed obsolete in the 1990s.
@Spougggaato1382 жыл бұрын
Gaijin hate france
@irgiefarras2 жыл бұрын
so you're saying that gaijin should add the DU apfsds and move it to like 9.0 but still had no stab?
@Spougggaato1382 жыл бұрын
@@irgiefarras he never said that
@kpack19932 жыл бұрын
@@Spougggaato138 That's the option though, if it gets the more powerful round then the battle rating has to go up. The BRENUS ERA should be improved because that isn't really a choice just an inaccuracy.
@Spougggaato1382 жыл бұрын
@@kpack1993 I think brenus and the other one behind him should have stab and go up in br with nothing else, why have armor if the best armor is no armor in this game
@papat07212 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the 2 tank fused to each other at 2:38
@RicharDD11272 жыл бұрын
Speaking of AMX-30s, you should do a video on the AMX-30 ACRA
@captainfactoid38672 жыл бұрын
One of the best vehicles to learn the commander gunner with
@Kwisss2 жыл бұрын
Man I need to grind those sections of the French tree. I always see Jakpz more than SK105 of course.
@whitestarline45562 жыл бұрын
That is a criminal request
@andrewruss58242 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@kiryu54992 жыл бұрын
Thr underloved baguette launcher
@mateuszwalicki4972 жыл бұрын
10:16 the BMP-1 and BMP-2 was designed to have 20mm autocannon protection, specifically against german Marders
@diss24732 жыл бұрын
nothing makes me happier than when my bmp-3 is able to absorb a leo 2k 20mm
@bruhthunder71802 жыл бұрын
actually no , the 20mm in the brenus is only apcr and he shell , in marder 1a3 the apds can penetrate the bmp series easily
@jaxrammus91652 жыл бұрын
okay, and what about every other vehicle that is meant to have something but doesnt... funny how only the russians seem to get everything on the papers
@jeandelacroix67262 жыл бұрын
@@bruhthunder7180 AMX 30 should have apds (named optsoc) shell as well. They used the same 20mm bands as AMX 10 P.
@bruhthunder71802 жыл бұрын
@@jeandelacroix6726 gaijin hate france
@dlfn76232 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it terrible, just situational. It's obviously going to perform poorly in close quarters but at range it's pretty good. The French 8.3 lineup overall follows the same trend of being terrible at close quarters but better than others at range. For my playstyle the lack of a stabilizer isn't too much of an impact but I can see why it would for others.
@jeandelacroix67262 жыл бұрын
So you using IRL french cold war doctrine
@gaijinatemyhusky43842 жыл бұрын
Me and my mates refer the ammo stowage in the back of the turret on the AMX30s as "wine cellar" xD
@razerblaxe72322 жыл бұрын
I was literally watching your older AMX-30 BRENUS video when this came out now after a nice nap I’m ready to see what has changed.
@captainfactoid38672 жыл бұрын
Good timing. I’ve been grinding this thing and have just started the grind on the Thermals. The lack of stabilizer would be terrible if I had switched to this from another nation. (Not that I havent played other nations but more like havent played them while grinding France) But since I went from France 8.0 to this, you’re kinda used to it. It still is annoying not having one and it does get you killed, but if you played France 8.0 before you have kind of adapted to it Edit: My friend I play with can attest I complain about the lack of stabilizer a lot though.
@jeandelacroix67262 жыл бұрын
Just add the AMX 30 CH29, the 30c2 And the two 32 with 105 gun. Boom stabilized 105mm tanks for France. And you still have the 30 V, VE and 40/32 for premiums
@jasoncrawford49292 жыл бұрын
The lack of stabilizer wouldnt be too awful if the vertical raise WASNT SO BAD with the TERRIBLE suspension gaijin think's France has. That being said, I love this thing so much. I just got the leclerc so its totally doable
@kiryu54992 жыл бұрын
After playing tanks like the amx-13, char 25t, lorraine 40t, amx m4 and amx50 you get used to low vertical targeting speed and no stab, its a hard skill to learn but you can shoot on the move or short stop with the amx-30’s, a stab would be nice tho
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
The amx30b2 brenus never had anything stabilized,neither the gunner sight nor the commander sight. IRL Amx30b2 commander here,if you have any questions about it let me know.
@hutchywutchy2 жыл бұрын
So there was no stabalization equiment on the amx 30 series
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
@@hutchywutchy Not at all
@dlfn76232 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea what might have started that myth? I keep hearing it everywhere without any sources.
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
@@dlfn7623 No idea honestly
@Planeman7772 жыл бұрын
Careful not to have a blueprint moment there lmao
@mage95642 жыл бұрын
2:37 nobody wants to point out the 2 MARS 15's that are merged together in the background driving by lmao.
@paulaldwin2092 жыл бұрын
Playing French tanks with no stabilizer almost makes it hard to switch to stabilized countries I’m so used to snap shooting that I can’t play stabilized without having to change my play style. Kind of fun if you ask me. Like driving a stick instead of an automatic
@alphanomad5112 жыл бұрын
Ur weird man. But to each their own
@RisingAlpaca2 жыл бұрын
You can set a keybind to turn off the stabilizer if you decide you dont want to use it.
@captainfactoid38672 жыл бұрын
I will counter to say 8.3 France is fairly strong. You got the BRENUS, and the B2 which are pretty decent, the SK-105 which is fantastic, the DCA which is a good AA, and the 316 or 313 Alouette (if you like helis) which with 4 missiles can make a good impact each flight
@Spougggaato1382 жыл бұрын
Almost all of them dont have stab... it change everything, the only good tank is even not a tank Its a freaking spaa
@steveshumate19832 жыл бұрын
They are very good at specific things. They are some of the best snipers in their BR range. They are awful though at brawling. You have to play passively but in the right scenario the whole 8.0-8.3 lineup is very good.
@jeandelacroix67262 жыл бұрын
In a downtier ? Maybe. Against other 8.3 ? They're outright trash. But its not like its unfixable. It is. 2 copy paste and the MBT problem can be solved while leaving 4-5 premiums. Stab light tanks with 105mm? Copy paste possible for 2, 1 need chassis modelling and the last need both turret and chassis, last one includes (if Gaijin will) a DU round. Stab light tanks with 90mm ? 5 options including a thermal equipped one. Stab 40mm CTA ? Yes, 4 options with atgms, thermals everywhere. Stab 40mm Bofors AA? 2 options with apfsds and pfhe included, and even Thermals for one of them. Stab 30mm ? Only 1 but it comes with atgms and thermals. Stab 25 ? 5-7 options (out of memory I need to check those again). Did I precise all get APFSDS ?
@Jake-dh9qk2 жыл бұрын
@@steveshumate1983 probably there are 2 out of all maps that allow a passive sniper gameplay whereas every other map tanks zoom around with their stabilizers outsniping you
@ikat_tracer Жыл бұрын
Strong at dying to stabilized tanks rushing around a corner while you are still trying to center your gun which is still wobbling without end from that stop.
@Kwisss2 жыл бұрын
I wish they could just give them stabilizers (even if its not exactly the same as stabilized) and put them up to 8.7/9.0 so the AMX 30 Super wouldn't feel so alone.
@jeandelacroix67262 жыл бұрын
Just add the AMX 30 CH29, the 30c2 And the two 32 with 105 gun. Boom stabilized 105 tanks for France And for light tanks TML on AMX 10 RC (for 8.3) and Vextra (9.0 with OFL105F2 DU round or upgraded OFL 105G2) Would also take the ERCs (Sagaie I, Sagaie II, VAPE 1) with TTB190 (stabilized gun) And AMC 6x6 (30mm + HOT) and a VAB UTM800 for stabilized atgm TD And most of what I'm talking about can get premium counterparts
@jeremydorfschmidt10882 жыл бұрын
Got the regular b2, and im really loving it, im used to not having a stabilizer, and its pretty rewarding when you get a snap shot off, I initially play passively but it can definitely be aggressive, a lot of fun to play.
@Phazum2 жыл бұрын
2:39 anybody see those 2 tanks inside of eachother
@mr.Cane_Toad2 жыл бұрын
me lol
@thepilot14352 жыл бұрын
2:37 why is nobody talking about the two tanks clipping into each other
@Skanic Жыл бұрын
Would love to see gameplay of you in the AMX-30 (1972)
@vinny.g5778 Жыл бұрын
7:13 I think that T95E1 was begging for mercy after the two bomb dropped
@bkstewart19992 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin i was the type 69 and 59 at the end i didn't even know it was you but im hype to see myself in the video great video as always keep it up friend
@jamesngotts2 жыл бұрын
The T84 would be awesome. It would be interesting because it is arguably the most well protected tank on earth right now and has some of the best optics available. Gen 3 thermals for all. The tank lacks in fire power because it uses a APFSDS round from the 80s, 3BM42. Not sure how Gajin is going to implement hard kill active protection systems that intercept projectiles. The T-84 as well as the T-90M, T-14, M1A2 SEP3 and many other gen 4 MBTs have these systems as well as many gen 4 IFVs
@siko97992 жыл бұрын
i think you forgot the most important part, t-84’s can actually reverse.
@steveshumate19832 жыл бұрын
But the Brenus is so much fun for trolling American ATGM vehicles such as the Bradley, m901, etc. it’s hilarious when they don’t know that their missions are useless
@ercek152 жыл бұрын
proof me wrong...BRENEUS should be in folder or as a mod. to B2 (the ERA and IRCM)
@VFrozzen2 жыл бұрын
2:39 whats up with those two racing back there haha
@Sneaky_692 жыл бұрын
Two begleits in nature
@aerialmello61592 жыл бұрын
For those wondering how to get the content creator decal in war thunder on a ps4 account. Just buy ge through the link on the computer. No you can't buy premium, no you can't buy packs, it only works for buying ge
@fleuryjean-francois87042 жыл бұрын
At 2 minutes 39 s, we can see, behind the Brennus, a cute military tandem stroller travelling on the road...
@WigglyWings2 жыл бұрын
2:38 What the hell is going on in hangar behind the vehicle? Lmao
@operatordababy Жыл бұрын
The only bad thing about the tank is the lack of a stabilizer and it’s easy to get over, this tank is amazing and not bad
@shadows39002 жыл бұрын
Hmmm 🇫🇷🪓🥲🪓🇫🇷 we never retreated and we will never retreat ! For Napoléon ! Oups wrong period 😰😂😂
@gagida18292 жыл бұрын
The T95 was shaking his head for mercy hahahaha
@clayle2 жыл бұрын
5:58 I'm in the kill log
@paullakowski25092 жыл бұрын
"Brenus ERA provides only 5 mm vs KE while IRL it was close to 100 mm " Who the hell figured that out...is their any open source info on this?
@purplenurp55902 жыл бұрын
If this tank has stab it would be so fun to play
@jeandelacroix67262 жыл бұрын
Well 6 different versions had stab but Gaijin wont add any of them
@unknown.1612 жыл бұрын
2:38 look back, new tank coming soon XDDD
@risenlegend94432 жыл бұрын
Wayyy im in the video at 9:30 I was the Ka-Chi down on the beach and at 12:46 yoinking the kill on the ZSU-57-2 :D
@Eonymia2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully this thing isn't 8.7 anymore. It was just dead in the water there. (and I'm going to say this pre-emptively because every time I say this someone appears out of thin air to defend this tank at 8.7 by just calling it a sniper tank or something similar while not understanding that literally every other 8.7 medium tank can do the same, but better, while being more flexible in everything but possibly gun depression, depending on which one we're talking about). I like to keep some heat-fs with me just because it deals better with things like the is-7. I still had a good time with it, because it wasn't good. So I didn't have any pressure to perform, and ended up playing stress-free. Now at 8.3 it's not quite as awful, and it's still decently mobile, but it's not great either since it depends a lot on if you get up or downtiered. If you get downtiered and all the stabilized tanks at 8.0-8.3 are on your team, then it's great. It's actually been pretty good now in 8.3 Squadron battles, since you're capped facing things at 8.3 and below, so the ERA is actually useful sometimes. (unless you fight a t-55AM, or anything else with apfsds or normal apds loaded). It can stop some missiles from the begleit and the missile from the IT-1, so that's nice I guess.
@elcousteau34412 жыл бұрын
I hate you for this LKJFBUIHDBNPOISDN joke but great video, we gonna bonk you with our baguettes next time ;be carefull
@1Hammer2922 жыл бұрын
fun fact the amx 10rc has the in game indicator for a stabillizer but doesnt actually have one
@GENERICNICK-kj4lm2 жыл бұрын
It has a stabilizer on one of the sights (the gunner i think) but not the gun
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
It has the m527 panoramic commander sight which the brenus should have too,which is stabilized
@1Hammer2922 жыл бұрын
@@PoliviosSavva it's strange though in game where the tank status is in the bottom left the brenus doesn't show STAB and the 10rc does have it you can even turn it on and off
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
@@1Hammer292 Some brenus had m527 commander sights,some OB49 sight,the Brenus in-game has the OB49 sight which is NOT stabilized
@1Hammer2922 жыл бұрын
@@PoliviosSavva ohh gotcha thanks for the info
@gtaplayer8508 Жыл бұрын
This thing stablised will go straight to 9.3 or even 9.7 I think, just because of the active protection and bigger mgs then the super
@-_-death46462 жыл бұрын
The APS would work against the IT-1's missile and the BMP-1's (if it's turned on) . Specific types of missiles that APS can jam can be found on the Warthunder Wiki
@LucaDiRuggiero2 жыл бұрын
i remember facing an IT-1 with great confidence in the APS, which did absolutely nothing and the dude killed me lol
@-_-death46462 жыл бұрын
@@LucaDiRuggiero well.. that's weird. My aps works well against some HOT. And there was a time I was driving up a hill and the APS jam a missile launched by a chopper
@supbro_the_crazy26812 жыл бұрын
I have just played it and man was it painful, I love the amx 40 and 32 a lot more
@ohmygyatt-s7b2 жыл бұрын
if justin is willing to play the brenus, we should fight for him to play the m48 super join the movement!
@n1co2017 Жыл бұрын
alternate title Justin insults french people in the intro from 3:38 to 3:54
@y.l53212 жыл бұрын
Glowing boosters at bottom right: 90% PL hehe
@wolfbleue49202 жыл бұрын
J'adore le Brenus 🇨🇵🇨🇵 L'un de mes chars préféré 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵❤️❤️❤️
@leopard_chan2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of suffering, you should try the Raketenjagdpanzer 2.
@moonman86842 жыл бұрын
no stabilizer at 8.3 🤣
@hell246812 жыл бұрын
Of course they have to add the BTR lines and another OP T80 tank, Russia doesn't have a 100% win rate so far and that's unacceptable! If another nation in the game gets above 30% that just means Russia suffers and needs more of a buff.
@siko97992 жыл бұрын
they haven’t even announced the vehicles as being added, stop whining.
@hell246812 жыл бұрын
@@siko9799 sounding like a Russian main. An seeing as most of the models are already in the game and usable they most likely will add them
@siko97992 жыл бұрын
@@hell24681 puma ifv has been leaked for awhile yet it hasn’t been added. just because it was found in the files doesn’t mean it will be added next update. the oplot won’t even be op anyway.
@pendraig54462 жыл бұрын
The best amx30 at its br
@Oofboi9672 жыл бұрын
Justin, the BR changes have been implemented. I was wondering your thoughts about the T-44 getting moved up from 6.3 to 6.7. I personally think its bull
@johnbennett9512 жыл бұрын
the 85 mm is not very pog at 7.7 against maus
@martindebeja46562 жыл бұрын
French mains: "at least it looks cool"
@lukigensfm2 жыл бұрын
as a france main, i can confirm
@kyelclachrie10872 жыл бұрын
YAY another upload!
@literallynapoleonhimself54172 жыл бұрын
3:08 The AMX-30B2 BRENUS had a computer that acted as a stabilizer, the computer would also kinda act like a fire control mechanism that fired the main gun when the gunner sights and the gun itself would line up.
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
It didnt
@literallynapoleonhimself54172 жыл бұрын
@@PoliviosSavva it did. The computer acted like a fire control mechanism that would fire the gun when the gunner sights and gun were aligned (gunner sights were stabilized)
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
@@literallynapoleonhimself5417 Bro im a real life commander on an amx30b2,it didnt have such system and the sights were not stabilized
@literallynapoleonhimself54172 жыл бұрын
@@PoliviosSavva the BRENUS variant had it. The regular B2 didn’t.
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
@@literallynapoleonhimself5417 The only thing close to stabilization was the M527 commander sight which would let the commander use the FCS,a feature which he does not have on a B2,and even then it doesnt mean the sight was stabilized AT ALL.
@f1ash7562 жыл бұрын
Bro what time is it where you live?
@JustinPlaysTV2 жыл бұрын
1am, I am a tired chunder player..
@nikospapasotiropoulos2 жыл бұрын
This is the opposite of the Chieftain MK3 !!!
@gamingwithsimplekid75762 жыл бұрын
just bought ur decal :DDD😍😍
@eduardviska2 жыл бұрын
Super comment. France military vehicles and air very good.
@Commander_352 жыл бұрын
The title should be: AMX-30B2 🅱️renus :)
@addedcheese2 жыл бұрын
am I miss remembering or didn't the 30 series have some kind of a pseudo stabilization system in real life, more akin to a short stop stabilizer. Also on the notion of the Oplot, not sure if it is the greatest idea Gaijin has had especially if it goes to the Russian tree given that it is Ukrainian.
@jeandelacroix67262 жыл бұрын
Just add the AMX 30 CH29, the 30c2 And the two 32 with 105 gun. Boom stabilized 105 tanks for France
@domesticboomer70522 жыл бұрын
Those tanks that tec covered have already been debunked and aren't comng to game anytime soon
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
The amx30 series never had any pseudo-stabilizer system
@riteshvr39132 жыл бұрын
*HEY JUSTIN CAN YOU MAKE A VIDEO ON MARDER A1 PLEASE!*
@war_thunder_is_nice68072 жыл бұрын
I hope they make the decals for xbox too
@BullyThunder2 жыл бұрын
Really justin your artillery killed a plane 14:40
@matthieuzglurg60152 жыл бұрын
as a little note : the FCS on the BRENUS is very similar to what you would find on the AMX 32, but Gaijin chose to give that vehicle a 2 plane stab which it never had. If the Brenus was given that stab (as well as the 30B2) and moved up to 9.0/8.7 or 9.3/9.0 respectively, that would really give worthy vehicles to grind for France instead of the dumpsterfire that it France high tier currently
@jintsuubest93312 жыл бұрын
Except amx32 has stab...... Keyword being similar, amx32 use basically the same fcs but it has a gyro reference integrated into the fcs to allow stabilization. And of course it is connected to the machinery that moves the gun, and all the other complicated stuff.
@jeandelacroix67262 жыл бұрын
Not same turret drive (CH 27 vs TCM) Please don't talk
@ikat_tracer Жыл бұрын
@@jeandelacroix6726 look at this guy
@ajikanExe2 жыл бұрын
the only thing i like about the amx 32 is the freakin auto cannon lol i like torturing people especially the fking heavy tank like t10 or even the russian ufo heavy tank
@CetoFreakingKaiba2 жыл бұрын
autocannon is the reason why Leo 2K>Leo 2A4. Fight me
@Ashe_Tracks Жыл бұрын
I'm a masochist so I love france
@Real_Simajiphu2 жыл бұрын
Well, let's play M48 in German techtree, same same BR, not stabilize and slower. Have fun )))
@notsoracistraspberry4168 Жыл бұрын
I dont know how but i have a 4 kdr with this thing 180-45 yet just to say maintain a 2kdr with the T55AM1
@jjbogan37912 жыл бұрын
G'day :)
@EB-Ghost62 жыл бұрын
my name is birthcontrol14, so twoeggs is a master peice of a name i think, hes a name chad.
@UnicornstalkRGaming2 жыл бұрын
Amx-30s are really good Learn to suspension shoot
@thetanker91522 жыл бұрын
Does it work also on Steam?
@generalleclerc2.0592 жыл бұрын
GiVe Me YoUR Sl please xD Good vidéo, good to see a good playeur of french tank! Bon boulot! :) Continue comme ça Justin!
@regan_vanger40002 жыл бұрын
I need to see you playing Type 75 SPH please !!!
@maxipadthai2 жыл бұрын
Which country will Oplot be in?
@IkeanCrusader10132 жыл бұрын
Actually not that good for frontline sniping, good for flanking and ambushing from good cover cause armor won't hold up
@benben85612 жыл бұрын
three eggs
@millerthehunter39992 жыл бұрын
bruh why do ur vids come out at like 3am CST
@dawerrr99062 жыл бұрын
but actually Brenus is kinda op lol.
@massimolerco25282 жыл бұрын
T84 Oplot in russian tree? Is it a prediction about real life future?
@jcindbouncy2 жыл бұрын
Can u plss make a video of the swingfire?
@AlexThetankI2 жыл бұрын
Can Ps player’s now also get the costume skins ?
@Borodinskyy2 жыл бұрын
🅱renus
@UrBoyBipolar2 жыл бұрын
Anyone see the cursed tank at 2:38 ?
@leopardcentury40792 жыл бұрын
1:57 it doesn't matter how much SL you have, you still will make Profit if you don't play like a total ******
@IkeanCrusader10132 жыл бұрын
Sadly still missing it's LWS which is part of the APS, and it's FCS is missing the COTAC optical stabilizer. Which lets you set the sight on a target and hold down trigger and it only fires when the barrel aligns with the sight
@PoliviosSavva2 жыл бұрын
It doesnt have such a system dude
@ikat_tracer Жыл бұрын
@@PoliviosSavva It does my guy. In every comment I go I only see you dying on hills left and right.
@PoliviosSavva Жыл бұрын
@@ikat_tracer It doesnt ha e such system :)
@zackaryannable46562 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how to gain research towards squadron vehicles? I am in a squad and play random battles but gain no research
@JustinPlaysTV2 жыл бұрын
Your entire squadron needs to participate and meet a minimum amount of playtime points for you to get the 20k
@DK-ig8zi2 жыл бұрын
Can you do amx 30 super please?
@leave73342 жыл бұрын
i use xbox and still can’t get it to work
@manginasal29502 жыл бұрын
Make a video about 2s6
@thunderball13982 жыл бұрын
Can you play the su 152, pleas
@larikauranen21592 жыл бұрын
Tanks such as the Abrams, Challengers and Leopards have this system as well. Dont know about the eastern style tanks. The gun wont fire until its in line with the gunners retical since tanks are naturally rather bouncy when off road. Since this mechanic isnt implimented in the game, my guess is that whe it does, every vehicle that had something similar will get it, makingnyou not miss when someone, or you, suddenly bumb into the rear of a friendly tank. This has had me killed quite a few timesXD
@realwm2 жыл бұрын
R we gonna get a oplot m video any time soon
@JustinPlaysTV2 жыл бұрын
When and if it drops, absolutely!
@dumisandikinda62542 жыл бұрын
I wonder if reakly the war starts in Ukraine and Russia start will we have the US server in Warthunder
@phantomvulcan22062 жыл бұрын
Object 120 with he please
@gamingwithsimplekid75762 жыл бұрын
Aml90 pls? 😁
@Kwisss2 жыл бұрын
No one: NO ONE AT ALL: Justin: IN TRUTH... Old jokes I know :3.
@Solveig.Tissot Жыл бұрын
Average Virgin Cringe Brainless Fatherless Anti France Troll Fanboy taking Copium over here ⬆️
@finlaybates73172 жыл бұрын
2 viewer
@foresakenog1252 жыл бұрын
2nd comment
@jintsuubest93312 жыл бұрын
All modern (most) works by stabilizing the sight, weather it be gunner sight or commander sight. Then the barrel follow the sight. When the trigger is pressed, the system will check is the gun align with the sight? If yes, gun goes boom. If no, system adjust gun to align with sight, then goes boom. The bouncing, then fire when align thing was trailed by people before, on many occasion. Surprise, surprise, it does not make sense and provide terrible accuracy. Why would you think that gives you pin point accuracy? If it is moving on 1 plane then sure. But what if your gun is bouncing on 2 plane? Stick to play games, not history.