The Original "Stale" Top Tier Baguette - Leclerc S1 - War Thunder

[@bontempsthomas]

More than not getting any change in 3 years : while every top tier MBT got buffs, Gaijin thought it would be a good idea to nerf the Leclercs. It's not like France's top tier was good but you know, Gaijin and France is kind of a hate story. During the Dev server preceding the Leclerc's release, it went from a 5 seconds reload (historically accurate) to the current 6 seconds reload (historically inaccurate). Then, it got its commander thermals removed. Until very recently, it got its mobility heavily nerfed (incredibly slow neutral steering gear). And then there is simply the general powercrept : it currently has the second worst top tier shell and what is easily the worst of second worst survivability in top tier because it only has 3 crew members, fuel tanks explode all the time for no reason and Gaijin won't fix its armor. France's situation being dire as always ...

[@neuroleptic2563]

Probably what bugs me the most, and you didn't mention it, is how crippingly slow the turret traverse is. With more than 1000 battles between the 3 Leclercs and more than 1900 kills in total I speak from experience. A painful one.

[@bontempsthomas]

@@neuroleptic2563 I know, I know. But there are too many issues with the Leclerc to deal with in a single KZbin comment so I focus on the main ones, although I agree the turret rotation speed is a pain in the ass.

[@neuroleptic2563]

@@bontempsthomas now that I see your YT name I recognize you from past games ;) At least they got that - 2 degree aiming back, its something, one day we might see something that surprises us

[@wifi_soldier5076]

But GeRmAnY sUfFeRs 🤪

[@olivier5700]

Hi ! The Leclerc's auto loading mechanism can be set to 5 sec reloading time. However, the French military found out that doing so would increase the risk of reliability issues and so they set it at 6 secs. To be fair, Gaijin was true to life regarding the Leclerc's reloading rate :) Now I agree with you regarding the weaknesses in the mobility department, the IRL Leclerc is a nervous machine !

[@Kwisss]

Either give them new rounds or buff the reload to 5 seconds as your losing lot of survivability of having 3 crew compared to the other NATO counterparts.

[@dedneyder3586]

Buffin the reload is an insane idea (it's a autolaoder)

[@wifi_soldier5076]

@@dedneyder3586 which actually reloads in 5 seconds. No idea why Gaijin gave it a 6 second reload. Other than that Gaijin hates France.

[@dedneyder3586]

@@wifi_soldier5076 basically it's an auto loader meaning even though one crew member of three dies the reload will always be the same (until the ammo in the autoloader is gone) Here is a reference the challengers load their rounds when spaded every 5 seconds If the leclerc gets a five second reloading autoloader it would mean that you wouldn't have to waste money on spading it you just need to give the driver speed. I can feel sympathy 😕 for French tankers (I am a British tanker) and I would like nothing more than smaller nations would get some more love from the snail. (I am just so frustrated with gajins insistence of failing to balance top tier (which is currently in the Russian court)) It beats the Russian autoloader by atleast 0,7 seconds which is pretty good compared to most reloads of other tanks

[@Kwisss]

@@dedneyder3586 Bruh, when the Leclerc got DEV released they had 5 second reload in the Dev Server which was accurate compared to IRL. The 5 second autoloader will actually make it worth while considering all the other problems the Leclerc have.

[@dedneyder3586]

@@Kwisss what are the other problems? I know that it lost its commander thermal!

[@lxelax7388]

I would like to see more 6.7! But top tier still fun to watch!!

[@joako2706]

Great video Justin. As a French main(lish) I guess the S1 Leclerc should be moved to 10.7 and fight the M1 AIM, Leo 2PL and the Chinese which both feature thermals for commander and gunner and have and equal if not more powerful round.

[@Panservogn]

One important note, the S1 weighs 53.7 tons instead of 56.2 like the S2 and SXXI. That gives the S1 the highest top tier MBT horsepower per ton, of 27.4 hp/t while the S2 and SXXI gets 26.2 hp/t For comparison, other fast MBT’s like Type 10 only gets 27.0 hp/t. This thing also doesn’t lose as much speed in turns as some NATO tanks does, making it generally a really mobile platform while still having some armour. Edit: This thing also has a INSANE shell speed of 1790 m/s which is if i’m not wrong the fastest MBT shell.

[@jPlanerv2]

one of early russian 125mm has 1800ms

[@everettd9119]

3BM9 found on the t64a has 1800 m/s. It's made of steel rather than uranium or tungsten.

[@Panservogn]

@@everettd9119 Oh cool, didn’t know that! 👍

[@bontempsthomas]

And yet, in my experience, the T-80BVM seems to have pretty much the same mobility (except in reverse obviously), but with much better armor and a better shell. After all, Gaijin wouldn't want Russia to suffer ...

[@Panservogn]

@@bontempsthomas True it is really mobile, but in terms of hp/t Leclerc and Type 10 win, but BVM is in third or fourth

[@fartbarts3647]

11:30 T90a does have a Laser Warning System btw it comes together with the laser rangefinder.

[@raizencore]

You know, Leclerc may not have the best protection these days but boy can it take a lot of punishment, sometimes it still surprises you.

[@okobongdinko]

It has pretty decent protection, that protection being it's speed. At least in real life it's the fastest mbt

[@neuroleptic2563]

I think one of it's advantages is that the crew is spread apart in a quite big tank, and also it keeps reloading even if one member got taken out, which often allows you to return fire very quickly

[@kostab92]

You mean the part where gun breach shots take out your ammo or the part where damaging the floor fuel tank kills your tank?

[@noodles-ym3cw]

As a French main I hate the lower plate butt I like to play it as a baguette it's stale and boring but it's edible.

[@Miles26545]

You make French toast out of stale baguette

[@oldundead]

9:06 huh? though the window shot?

[@288gto7]

The og svinets in t80u is barely known and barely used irl as well in 90s but its in the game. They should just add that round you said to the leclerc

[@mando_dablord2646]

I think the 120mm F2 round has a Uranium core. Which the French did use for a while, but stopped using to go back to Tungsten. Which Gaijin has been using the excuse that since the French don't use it anymore it's not justified to add it for them. 😕

[@universate5332]

As fire as I know russia doesn't use t34s any more, by gaijins logic they should be removed

[@Dovahkiin520]

I will always stand by that the Leclerc needs to be BR 10.0 with its gen 1 thermals(Like the Leo 2 A4), take away its top sabot round. S2 should be BR 10.7, and the SXXI needs to be the only 11.0 BR. It is insane this tank sits a such a high BR with such terrible thermals (There is a screaming M1A2 Abrams player somewhere lol.)

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

Quick tip with the AMX-50B, the reason why you keep getting non-pens is because its default shell is HE, and for some random reason it'll switch it to HE while it still appears as AP client side. It's like the fuel bug, but a lot more annoying, so just swap ammo back and forth every once in a while

[@JustinPlaysTV]

I've never carried HE with it, however previous targets in the same spawn were able to be easily destroyed by the current shell type. So I don't quite believe this is the case.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

@@JustinPlaysTV It's been happening to me, an I carry both AP and HE, so it may be an issue, just like fuel being set to minimum or maximum when you have one of the medium selections. It may be a possibility, but it's only happened twice for me.

[@perturabothelordofiron7531]

The "new" small RB-maps are not really new. They used/had them for a long time but only in arcade and because of reasons now in RB.

[@19explorersport96]

Just started playing the Leclercs. Very good imo.

[@alexflores9021]

The leclerc has a bug in the fuel tank, sometimes it works normally, but most of the time the crew is shot down meaninglessly

[@donna-mariabassett3216]

Difference with the leclercs is the SXX1 gets an air conditioner

[@Flyingtaco2002]

Seeing that highlight live made it even funnier and frustrating 😔

[@bradleykrieger1377]

Love your videos! I was that M1a1 in the first game with the winter camo on it.

[@Cam_Wight]

Hey Justin, Can you use the KZbin feature where you separate the video into segments on the video bar, always like it when content creators do that. Good stuff as always

[@patrikcarga]

21:20 that ab 205 : 💪💪💪💪

[@captainfactoid3867]

I have something to add about bulldozers! I have used it quite a few times on the Khrizantema

[@fire_drake12.arc.24]

It would be nice if Gaijin would allow the Hellfires to switch between ballistic and direct fire modes since it can do that. it'd also be nice if theyd give us the 10km range ones for all the Apaches. and move them and the KA-50's up to 11.0 as well as the tunguska. XM-1s should get m774, M1 Abrams (10.0) should get M833, and the M3 Bradley should get M919 APFSDS; as well as removing the ridiculous depression nerf the bradleys got for the rear. They should also allow the Abrams to depress the gun over the engine deck. like they changes with the leclercs

[@balbo_italo]

Hi Justin could you make an in-depth video on C1 Ariete explaining the strengths and weaknesses?

[@No1harris_98]

Btw in the missile optic for helicopters, on the bottom right off the screen it’s says the max distance for the missile

[@mypinkflipflops4926]

What are actually the best spoiling rounds? After grinding out Leopards, I switched to Abrams and it felt a bit better, at least M829A2, but now, playing BVM is just something else, the amount of one shots I get is just fcking astonishing...

[@bryanandersonmt]

17:30 actually this variant of the map is pretty old, it's just that now we actually see it often lol

[@fly_pie_1172]

I like to think that the leos2a5/6 and strv122a/b are literally point and click ctrl+alt+sup XD, they armor is so good in the chasis even, and the turret is indestructible and man oh man that sweet rounds they fire piercing anything

[@acbeck0680]

I was that 2a6 that killed him in that dune map i hate, but i was shitting myself, having australian ping and my luck, half the rounds somehow go through my turret cheeks

[@fly_pie_1172]

@@acbeck0680 F for you man, the server hamsters are against you

[@thesnipersaint2809]

justin please more uploads i love your videos possibly more high BR gameplays this stuff is too good

[@justaGermanguy_]

i would really like to see an Is-4m vid would really appreciate it

[@sirswede366]

The Tiger HAD does have better engines than the HAP, so better overall maneuverability. Also, the range of the HOT-3 missiles are 4.3km

[@benmeurant6157]

Great video its always exciting seeing another upload. btw could you consider playing the mtb70 please?

[@g09h]

I second this

[@bubby9175]

I third this

[@joestueckrath5275]

I fourth this

[@notyoume4432]

That intro is so true 🤬 lost so many mice...

[@photonicemitter9227]

Nice intro. That must be a russian player with inscription DESTROYER. A lot of them are protected by gaijin...

[@elcousteau3441]

Amazing video, the quality never disapoint me, Keep it up!! btw:"when surbaissé en 8.3?!!'

[@gaijinatemyhusky4384]

Do a video on the AMX 50 Surbiasse. Love that thing!

[@additionl.4796]

Warthunder physics 101: if a object is rotating, it is completely impenetrable.🙃🙂🙃

[@swaggercompany6752]

Yep the game has a problem with rotating parts of the tank not taking any damage.

[@immortalized.1]

20:56 That helicopter made me LMFAO

[@levismith7423]

Justin I think you should revisit the Former British Wehraboo Stomper Centurion Mk 10

[@anthimony8344]

As a french player i feel miserable with how gaijin is doing France dirty there is so many tanks that gajin could add to France and none of them do, the sl prices are extremely high so it scares off new players to try without new players trying because of the high prices gajin doesn’t see a reason to add more tanks and with the nerfing of various french top tiers after a while people would stop playing Frances, i would love to see more tanks in the tech tree and maybe try and get gajin to notice that people are willing to play France and enjoy it if they just lower sl prices and there were more tanks tank people could have in France theoretically giving it more appeal. But lets be honest probably not gonna happen but I’ll hope and wait for the day France will be cared about in gajin’s eyes

[@tizanikandothers]

I would like the possibility to select how many ltrs of fuel you can carry in battle in this way you can easily avoid any fuel explosions

[@9Achaemenid]

Same things happens time to time that shots dosen't pen the sides and nothing getting absorbed. It's so annoying. It's most likely bug that occurs randomly in my experience.

[@dankystanky7438]

I would LOVE to see you do a German F104g cas video judging btw keep up the good work I love your content

[@armicv691]

Leclercs are cool and all, but you know what's cooler??? The AMX-10

[@statisticalanomaly8416]

gotta love getting Gaijined on the daily

[@dankystanky7438]

Honestly I would love to see any F104 cas video!!

[@RusseWillis]

perfect balanced tank ! not Op not bad just perfect

[@taxcollector5920]

this is the best leclerc imo since its the fastest and the sxxi armour doesnt matter

[@McZippyMedia]

bluepilled : gaijin buffs and nerfs tanks due to gameplay considerations redpilled : gaijin buffs and nerfs tanks due to political considerations

[@AntiRain_M4A1]

the Leclerc is generally fun, but the horizontal guidance speed of 30 degrees with ace crew sometimes is suffering...

[@xxxbg311]

what generation thermals has the first leclerc

[@Brzeczyszczykiewicz1899]

1. 2a6 2. M1a2 3. Leclerc My top 3 tanks in the game :>

[@ridleyyachid1380]

Your My Inspiration to grind 😁

[@angrycolonel1957]

i have a lot of trouble killing leclercs from the front with my t80um2

[@ВладиславМитали]

Hey Justin. What keyboard model are you using?

[@shikikanaz4624]

Hey Justin, not sure if you have it (which I doubt and because it not a plane guy) should you possibly do a video on the Q5s? They haven't received a buff and I'm curious since I'm grind china ground and aviation

[@BasTSLA]

they will change the the Tiger HAD the old AGM rocket and replace it to AGM-114K Hellfire II

[@crad5476]

So about that 10 year anniversary sale coming up... Are bundles like the T72 Turms included in the discount or just the tanks you can buy with golden eagles?

[@thunderball1398]

the only difference that i see is that the s21 is heavier

[@Panservogn]

Yeah weak spot protection, and CTV, but at the cost of mobility

[@matheo2b367]

Where do you fins the decalco baguette please?

[@4funrc11]

Huh? Controls are the most frustrating for me... 😆 LOL!

[@COLD3493]

This is just my opinion. The armour on the Leclercs is underwhelming, the firepower is average, the turret traverse is slow (its comparable to WW2 tanks if the crew is slightly wounded), the neutral steering is slow, you can detonate the ammo if u pen the cannon breach right, fuel tank 9 times out of ten explode when penned. When I unlocked this tank is was challenging to play it stock as the tank was quite unresponsive. Honestly, I love and hate this tank as it looks unique and cool, it's fast (mobility and reload time), its got good sight and decent thermal, good smoke screen, doesn't suffer from nato hump as much as the Leopard or the Abrams. If you look at the Abrams or the Leopards or even a BVM, these two tanks has a really good blend of balance of what makes a good MBT, but with the Leclercs I feel like it could be much more of an MBT than it is now.

[@drudarga4148]

How do you get the red lock on box while in the heli?

[@danieltresch5313]

I don’t understand what’s so great about the 3% discount because I get it standard on Xbox series S

[@Jordgubbstårta]

Ayyy I was in this vid I was the Khrizantema-S :)))

[@jack8805]

they really need to buff France asap

[@thickkock952]

Pls play gepard, I know you don’t like aa, but this thing is a fantastic brawler better than all tanks at its tier. Trust

[@lukigensfm]

*le sad surbaisse moment*

[@magnum6763]

i think that poor AB 205 deserved to have gaijins shitty mechanics tbh. poor lads only got 14 rockets and a couple of miniguns

[@hartsymk1]

Should have a 5 second reload, simple problem to solve with its viability in war thunder, if its armour isn't great and it mobility is still decent just buff the firepower alil and it should balance it abit more.

[@averagedarksoulsplayer4138]

So why don’t they make the hell fires just as strong as real life?

[@TheOreoOverlord]

Am I crazy or wasnt the reload 4 seconds then it was 5 for a while but now gaijin moves it to 6 for no damn reason

[@ricoburger89]

xD saw no changes in 3yrs... and is better than every chally xD haha....

[@steve45]

the Leclerc in all of its versions is still one of the best most balanced top tier tanks, mobility and firepower!!!! The first version is still the best! People just struggle to kill it! they just dont know how, even with the small crew.

[@-theislander-5888]

it’s literally one of the worst top tier mbts on paper. only ariete is worse basically. the survivability being it’s biggest letdown.

[@steve45]

@@-theislander-5888 Paper means nothing! dont take stats so seriouS! A half decent player can make this one of the best Top tier MBT's..

[@gaomax]

@@steve45 A half decent player can take an M-22 and kill an Abrams with it, that doesn't make the M-22 a good vehicle at 11.0 similarly just because a good player can perform well with the Leclerc it doesn't make it good. How many more hoops does the Leclerc player have to jump through to achieve the same results as a Leo 2A5 or a T-80BVM? It has inferior ammunition and inferior protection. The only TWO things it has going for it are reload speed and mobility. Which even then the reload speed can be negated by other non French players with an ace crew, so reload speed is only an advantage sometimes and not consistently.

[@steve45]

@@gaomax All I'm hearing is "skill issue"... I'm talking from experience! The 2A5/2A6 players are generally not that great and easily countered. The Russian mains can be dangerous, however, they tend to revert to the stupid zerg rush technique. However pound for pound, the LeClerc more than punches above its weight. I've had more nukes with the french at top tier than any other nation.

[@gaomax]

@@steve45 You're exclusively referring to anecdotal experience. I'm referring to actual stats. Just because the enemy team might have players not as skilled or good at the game doesn't make their tanks any worse. It is undeniable that the Leclerc is a worse tank when in comparison to the Leo, Abrams or most of the top tier T series tanks. Having idiot enemies isn't a buff for an otherwise inferior tank.

[@YoRHaUnit2Babe]

GAIJIN MOMENT

[@Thunder_playz_331]

I want to grind the jet this event and I'm curious once I have enough stars to get the jet do I need to pay with sl?

[@v.holovatiuk]

No, with ge. About 900 per star if I'm not mistaken

[@georgep9159]

No you don't have to pay SL for the vehicle, you only have to pay SL for assigning crew.

[@Thunder_playz_331]

@@georgep9159 ok thanks

[@medieval_tanker]

I just started playing the Leclerc and the experience is horrible so far. Saying the next two Leclercs are identical really makes me think I should abandon the french tech tree for now. This Leclerc would fit better at 10.0-10.3. But then, what's gonna be France's top dog?

[@andrewthomas8233]

I thought the hellfire was IRL one of the best if not the best helicopter missiles in the world? Does anyone know what the real best one out there is? Leave a comment.

[@ryzkiguruh2942]

He has better gaming setup and house, thats why you didnt pen him

[@JustinPlaysTV]

I highly doubt that, I like to flex my setup on stream >:D

[@Jess-dg6wo]

Imo dozer is more like nice to have rather than usefull

[@crunchy_rocket]

Pls do the Tutorial

[@cuinanathan8496]

Load time and speed of leclerc are better in real life and I really think yhat Gaijin don't like my country

[@alphawolf1786]

Honesty this game is becoming so bug out at the moment the other day shot a leo 3 times in it's engine and it just ghost shell through all 3 times lucky a allied knocked out the leo gun because I would have been dead

[@mr.vuchuchel3619]

Came for Leclerc gameplay, got helicopter gameplay instead. Not satisfied.

[@0aleolijest678]

The tound was to big to fit;)

[@acbeck0680]

I remember killing you in the 2a6 ( nomachines ) on the shitty al elamian map ( all the dunes ) then getting on your team rightaway next map lmao Edit: I meant HadGrunt not nomachine lmao, and im gonna admit, i was shitting myself when you rushed me, thought my australian ping would stuff me over 😅

[@itzeasy2040]

Every other nation is fine with fuel tanks other than the French does anyone know y?

[@girostade5477]

it's been a recurent problem lately, the shell, just doing nothing... it kinda feels like the game is rigged lmao

[@__matcha]

shame it doesn't come with white flag decal

[@didierpaya9069]

keyboard hero on line...

[@willardijatmiko1054]

0:12 - 0:35 seems like skill issue to me

[@rain89skarlet80]

thermals are the worst addition in warthunder...the main reason why top tier is garbage

[@joshuamcdonald5621]

#NotificationSquad

[@2009bokke]

This is a really crap tank in war thunder sorry to say

[@DollBarbiePlay]

Helis ruin the game

[@iPoTeNcYy]

why is your ping over 170 in a game ? That's probably what contributed to why your rounds weren't registering properly.

[@JustinPlaysTV]

90% of my games have me around that ping as war thunder hates to match me in US servers. So seeing that this is the first time I've had this issue in recent memory, I am doubtful it's ping.

[@dankystanky7438]

I’m deeply sorry if I’m being annoying but I want to know if I’m the future you could possibly do a F104 cas video even if it’s a no I’d like to hear btw your content is probably the best in the war thunder cc game

[@iPoTeNcYy]

@@JustinPlaysTV hates to match u in US servers ? You can pick which region you want to matchmake on. The devs have stated higher ping results in unstable multiplayer games.

[@JustinPlaysTV]

@@iPoTeNcYy ideally I keep both US and EU on to minimize que times, otherwise I'd sit in line for more than I'd like. On occasion I enjoy US only xP

[@iPoTeNcYy]

@@JustinPlaysTV fair enough good sir.

[@silent_6021]

First

[@silent_6021]

Also any upcoming videos on the Swedish tree?

[@thecommunistdoggo1008]

Touch grass

[@silent_6021]

@@thecommunistdoggo1008 I’m sitting on grass rn

[@JustinPlaysTV]

Maybe...