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@richardjordansongs
@richardjordansongs 2 ай бұрын
Regarding John Barrett, he wasn't someone who was getting on in years and being "put out to pasture". Rather, he was a young balance engineer at EMI who had been diagnosed with cancer and had asked Abbey Road's General Manager Ken Townsend if there was anything he could do to keep his mind occupied while undergoing chemotherapy. That's when Townsend suggested he listen through and log all of the Beatles tapes. He apparently did a fantastic job of this and it ultimately laid the foundations for Lewisohn's 'Complete Recording Sessions' book. John Barrett sadly died in 1984.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for that correction, Richard.
@Chucklea9
@Chucklea9 2 ай бұрын
'Complete Recording Sessions' is a wonderful book and it is nice that it is now accepted that others, apart from the author Mark Lewisohn, played their part. Well done for bringing it to Matt's attention and kudos to Matt for his gracious acknowledgement.
@johndowling5850
@johndowling5850 2 ай бұрын
I'm afraid a sense of entitlement is becoming more pervasive as the years go by. It doesn't do anyone any good.
@candelise
@candelise 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps things would be helped along if, somehow, Mark Lewishon and Olivia Harrison had a proper 'sit-down' over this matter.
@brianmansfield666
@brianmansfield666 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps Paul needs to sit down with George’s widow and tell her to do some gardening instead of pissing off an obvious good guy trying to do a noble job…
@inakicampo4922
@inakicampo4922 27 күн бұрын
Being myself a Beatle fan and as well the music from the 1960s, I find these videos absolutely fascinating. Thank you.a
@BeatleSimon1969
@BeatleSimon1969 2 ай бұрын
I spoke to Mark briefly at the end of the first ‘I Am The Eggpod’ live event. He was very friendly and approachable. To my knowledge, I can’t think of any other artist who has a dedicated fan like Mark who wants to chronicle every aspect. He is also brilliant at acknowledging that he doesn’t know everything and will rectify any errors he has made.
@bimpson78
@bimpson78 2 ай бұрын
I spoke to him after an Evolver event and same - dedicated humble hardworking fan.
@clambeandip
@clambeandip 2 ай бұрын
He's a great guy and incredible researcher.
@danswan1047
@danswan1047 Ай бұрын
As a first generation Beatles fan I really appreciate your ability to lay out the reality of writing a book of such significance. You cover everything that anyone who might not quite understand what goes into writing a book. Mark will deliver his next volume as soon as he is convinced that nothing else of significance can be added. I look forward to reading it, but if I don’t live long enough to read it, at least I got to live it. Cheers. 🙏
@CarolYannes
@CarolYannes 2 ай бұрын
Matt, thank you for the update on Mark Lewisohn and the projects he is working on. I had a feeling your next video would be on the Beatles but I thought it would be an American album release review. This video was great. God Bless Mark Lewisohn and his dedication and determination.
@charliewelch6859
@charliewelch6859 2 ай бұрын
I saw Mark 2022 in London doing a one man program " Evolver 63" . It was at the university of central London and it was a most informative and I hung on every word lecture I've ever sat for.
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 2 ай бұрын
I met the guy(semi professionally)& he was lovely; hard working & knowledgeable -a MEGA fan
@finch45lear
@finch45lear 2 ай бұрын
I thought those bootlegging allegations against Mark had been resolved a long time ago. I was saddened to learn that George treated him that way. Mark has the reputation as a first class historian. An objective writer dealing with the facts despite his obvious passion for The Beatles. This is certainly a very enlightening and entertaining video. Thanks so much.
@patrickalloyssius9138
@patrickalloyssius9138 2 ай бұрын
The source for the John Barrett bootleg was John barrett himself ,he dubbed cassettes while cataloging the archives ,when he passed away,his kids found the cassettes and gave them to world
@barker_
@barker_ Ай бұрын
I'm totally unsurprised that George would be this way. He's seen as a peaceful spiritual guy but he was a misanthrope and very surly. I mean who has Eric Clapton, who has espoused some awful things, as a best mate? People are complex and George was no different but he rarely gets called out for it.
@jacobmarleyvinyl380
@jacobmarleyvinyl380 2 ай бұрын
Such a thoughtful, intelligent and insightful video. Mark Lewisohn should be knighted for his books on the Beatles. I also read the entire two-volume Tune In. For those of us who write books on the Beatles, Mark has always been helpful and generous with his valuable time. Keep up the good work. Steve Matteo
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Hey Steve! I appreciate the comments. Good to hear from you.
@violao206
@violao206 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Matt for all of the fantastic gum shoe work that you bring ti us. It is absolutely invaluable and it is clear from all the other positive comments that your efforts are appreciated and really valued in a sea of noice. This channel and that other chap that reviews all the Beatles vinyl releases are my favourite!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate the kind words. Thank you!
@VideoByPatrick
@VideoByPatrick 2 ай бұрын
I was in London '83 at BBC entrance gate and photod Paul at gate entrance. A young fan handed him a bootleg vinyl, which Paul shockingly said, where did u get this ? Kid said record store. Paul read the album song list and angrily signed the bootleg and noted how wrong it was. Paul handed the bootleg back, and the kid ran off. I got Paul's autograph and took several pics of him, one of which I printed for Paul and dropped it off at MPL office. Paul wrote a nice thank you note. Anyway, it was '83 that Paul knew bootlegs were publishing stolen Beatles tapes. As an aside, EMI at some point allowed someone to listen to the John audio tape he made for absent Ringo; and that person released some of the info that John said to Paul and George. After that leaked audio EMI must have closed door on outside publishers having access to Beatles EMI artifacts; and who can blame them.
@brianmansfield666
@brianmansfield666 2 ай бұрын
Bootlegs don’t affect mainstream sales . Diehard fans are into them. Remember Grateful Dead accommodating fans to record them live..builds strong relationship with fans..
@VideoByPatrick
@VideoByPatrick 2 ай бұрын
@brianmansfield666 bootlegs pissed off the Beatles and EMI as well.
@brimans3092
@brimans3092 2 ай бұрын
​@@VideoByPatrickthey couldn't give a flying fuck...
@Hyakudeaths
@Hyakudeaths 2 ай бұрын
Hey Matt, just wanted to comment that I love the investigative journalist aspect of your videos! Honestly that aspect is what makes this channel so unique amongst other 60s pop culture channels. Thanks for your efforts!
@mwilhelmindetroit
@mwilhelmindetroit 2 ай бұрын
Lewisohn is the irreplaceable historian of the Beatles history. I've read and enjoyed many Beatles books and it true that many of the authors just largely regurgitate material "discovered" by someone else. Lewisohn doesn't do that. As a actual historian, he takes the time to do the research, like finding original sources, questioning them, if possible, and examining the relevant documentary evidence to try to arrive at the closest we will ever come to the objective truth. Without evidence, even the principals involved can misremember events. Lewisohn knows that and tells the best story he can, even if it ruffles some feathers along the way. Every true fan should get their hands on an Extended Edition. It's a revelation and a masterpiece. Thanks for what you do, Mark. And the same to Matt.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I will stay on it!
@Kieop
@Kieop 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Mark knows the players and while some bias did manage to creep in through the curating and contextualizing of quotes and his phrasing -- he's only human -- this is the most comprehensive and accurate history of The Beatles we are likely to see. It was indeed a revelation. It even solved a mystery that had been bugging me for years -- George Martin's story of how he signed The Beatles never made sense to me and now it does.
@mwilhelmindetroit
@mwilhelmindetroit 2 ай бұрын
@Kieop His telling always has the ring of truth to me, even if it's not perfect.
@ewest14
@ewest14 2 ай бұрын
Except Mark’s ethics and scholarship are brought into question with Tune In. There are several examples of Mark conflating and misusing quotes to tell a certain story. Tune In is an opinion book as much as any other Beatles book is. Mark isn’t the scholarly expert he portrays himself as
@Kieop
@Kieop 2 ай бұрын
@@ewest14 I agree with you about his use of quotes. That and his choice of descriptors (adjectives) are the means by which his bias creeps in. But at least he provides the verbatim quotes. Many authors paraphrase and use partial quotes in order to support their narrative. I believe he is trying to be objective. The bias can be frustrating, but it is not in service of some misguided agenda.
@KneeAches
@KneeAches 2 ай бұрын
I read the “long” version of Tune In twice! Absolutely loved it. Have been waiting for the next part. Nothing is better.
@denniswood1437
@denniswood1437 2 ай бұрын
It is such a shame that Lewisohn seems to on the outs with Apple as Beatles Recording Sessions is such an authoritative guide. He is way beyond meticulous and Apple is making a serious mistake in not having a positive, mutually beneficial relationship. The sequels to Tune In and his invaluable help with potential future Beatles reissues is sorely needed.
@Corleone1891
@Corleone1891 2 ай бұрын
What a great episode! Very insightful.
@michaelpdawson
@michaelpdawson 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this update. I hope we all live to see Vols. 2 & 3 published, but in any case I am very grateful just to have the stunning Vol. 1, and I wish Mark Lewisohn all the best.
@BeatlesCineYOtrosTemas
@BeatlesCineYOtrosTemas 2 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing all this new information regarding Mark Lewisohn. Cheers from Mexico City!
@PeteZolli
@PeteZolli 2 ай бұрын
Well said. "Tune In" is an astonishing work of scholarship, and a far better book than fans of a pop band have any reason to expect! Regardless of what does or doesn't get published in the future, Lewisohn has my thanx and respect.
@ewest14
@ewest14 2 ай бұрын
Except Mark’s ethics and scholarship are brought into question with Tune In. There are several examples of Mark conflating and misusing quotes to tell a certain story. Tune In is an opinion book as much as any other Beatles book is. Mark isn’t the scholarly expert he portrays himself as
@5150show
@5150show 2 ай бұрын
Mine too
@pcnorthumberland
@pcnorthumberland 2 ай бұрын
@@ewest14his research and his distillation is a step way beyond anything ever tried before. With hundreds of thousands of previously unknown elements some mistakes will get in - the idea that it’s all just an opinion and no better than yours is preposterous
@dylanolson4600
@dylanolson4600 Ай бұрын
@@ewest14can you give a few examples of this?
@crunchyfrog555
@crunchyfrog555 2 ай бұрын
The Complete Beatles Recording Session is a book I have a lot to thank for. I had always been a Beatles fan, of course, but it wasn't until CDs came out and I started DJing using CDs and collecting them furiously. I bought the Beatles CDs the minute they came out, and soon after when the Recording Sessions book came out I studied it diligently. With DJing I was of course interested in recording, so this book was everything to me. Not long after this I ended up going back to university and qualified to be an audio engineer. Best of all this was in Manchester right in the heat of Madchester in the early 1990s. So a great time. The Beatles have been regarded as doing things to shake up the recording industry, but for me personally indirectly they caused me to go and learn engineering, for which I'm extremely thankful.
@kfiralfiavideo
@kfiralfiavideo 2 ай бұрын
I interviewed Mark on my podcast. Such an eloquent and thoughtful man. The Beatles always attract the finest collaborators.
@christiandoll4435
@christiandoll4435 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Matt for this information.
@denpea-mm8zr
@denpea-mm8zr 2 ай бұрын
Thank You ! for this outstanding video update Matt. I'm one of those who has read the extended special edition of Tune In at least 3 times (maybe more, not sure) and have been patiently waiting for more. It is upsetting to hear that Mark's relationship with Apple has soured for no reason at all. Hopefully the book can be completed. I did experience the Beatles in real time and am grateful for that.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, denpea!
@michaelrochester48
@michaelrochester48 2 ай бұрын
Mark and I have corresponded in the past. His first volume had some inaccuracies about the Beatles Genealogy, especially about Ringo and I had to set him straight with some certificates and information I found on Ancestry from actual baptism records and he was very pleased and he said he was going to use my information as an update in the future volume of the Beatles.
@richbailey8174
@richbailey8174 2 ай бұрын
I think he is very appreciative of these things. To some he can be seen as a know-it-all (and he actually does seem to know it all!..:)..) but he is more interested in getting it right and the details are important. The only thing I think he blew it on was the Pete Best story. Epstein had approached a number of drummers before they settled on Ringo. Ringo wound up to be the best (pun intended!) choice but he wasn't their first. Lewisohn wants to promote the nice tale that they always wanted him which is the same yarn Paul and George promoted over the last decades. They're not going to publicly say "Yeah....we settled on him!"..:)...I have seen Lewisohn challenged on this many times and he gets real pissy about it because he knows he's wrong.
@nickdryad
@nickdryad 2 ай бұрын
Call something Apple and it’s gonna go bad. It’s biblical right?
@zjokka
@zjokka 2 ай бұрын
Who cares about Ringo's baptism? What does this contribute to understanding the musical phenomenon called the Beatles? Anybody want to hear where the idea for 'Hey Jude' originated?
@michaelrochester48
@michaelrochester48 2 ай бұрын
@@zjokka I care. And a lot of other people care because there’s been a lot of faults said about Ringo including that he’s the only Beatle without Irish ancestry and it’s not true. One of his ancestors name Cunningham was from Ireland. I care. And a lot of other people care why do people watch shows like who do you think you are and finding your roots when it’s celebrities and not your own Ancestry?, I get it. Because people care.
@michaelrochester48
@michaelrochester48 2 ай бұрын
@@zjokka understanding of the family background is essential to knowing how they became who they became. Doing my own ancestry I learned so much about myself to learning about the prehistory of my life. Maybe because you’re adopted?
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 2 ай бұрын
I loved Tune In and have been waiting patiently for the next book. Interesting background on how much work goes into one of these books. Great episode, and thanks for sharing.
@jamesgriffithsmusic
@jamesgriffithsmusic 2 ай бұрын
Interesting video Matt. What happened originally between Mark and Apple was that he allowed a US journalist to accompany him into the editing room at Abbey Road during Anthology, thinking that they guy was going to wrote a profile on him. The journalist asked to hear some of the tapes and Mark agreed having first obtained clearance from EMI. The journalist then wrote a very different kind of article, kind of a 'Behind the Scenes of Anthology' type thing, and that's when everything exploded.
@jamesgriffithsmusic
@jamesgriffithsmusic 2 ай бұрын
Actually I think it was the Lennon Anthology. Lewisohn wasn't ejected at that point but it caused the initial rift with George and Yoko.
@dreammachine2013
@dreammachine2013 2 ай бұрын
Many thanks for the info on Lewisohn, whose scholarly researched books are a real treasure! ❤ The rift with apple and Olivia is just crazy and unworthy😮
@erniericardo8140
@erniericardo8140 2 ай бұрын
Just like the Ex Beatles got fed up with being asked the question about when are they going to get back together, Im sure Mark Lewisohn is is as fed up with being asked when is he going to finish his book(s), -Many thanks Matt for breaking this down and putting in perspective the process into writing a book, its gives me more appreciation in the time and effort that goes into making this happen, and in some ways your work Matt is the same when you make your videos on the artists you present on your channel, So to anyone who is unpatient with Mark Lewisohn I'll repeat what a wise person once said: That all good things come to those who wait.
@Russtyman01
@Russtyman01 2 ай бұрын
Volume 2 is quite likely to include The Beatles touring pastimes and behind doors recreation. John and Eleanor Bron, Peggy Lipton with Paul, Mo Starkey with George, and Linda, Jane and Patties rock star adventures would come up. These did influence the songwriting so I think should be included but there is some dirty laundry there.
@crazydave511
@crazydave511 2 ай бұрын
I was gifted Volume 1 for Christmas not long after the books release ( hardback copy and incredibly expensive to buy ). I myself would have waited for a paperback version to appear before purchase. Since I received the book , I have read about 100 pages, I found the text content, absolutely over whelming to grind through and have not picked up the book again . Until I watched this informative and well presented video today, I was not aware of an extended volume 1, of a similar thickness being released. Wow!! ( It's 'All Too Much' for me.) Will Volume 2 go down a similar extension path. I have all of Mark's other books, which are great, but for this 3 volume ( or will it be 6 ) project, I wish good health and longevity to him so that he can finish this epic tome. I am a dedicated Beatles fan ( for 62 years ), an avid audio collector of their wonderful musical gifts to us all. I have many, many Beatle books still to read and reread. Sadly, not All These Years.
@Pharoset
@Pharoset 2 ай бұрын
John Barrett was not being "put out to pasture;" he was dying of cancer and he was given the job of going through the extant tapes to get his mind off of his problems.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the correction, Pharoset.
@timhall3575
@timhall3575 2 ай бұрын
Met Mark about 10 years ago (at an event at Abbey Road!) a truly lovely, sweet man. Hope this sorts itself out.
@Freakaboogie
@Freakaboogie 2 ай бұрын
i've been loving Lewisohn's work since the 80s. fascinating video as i hadn't heard the latest about the working relationship going sour. thanks!! your channel is a terrific source!!!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TheDoortoBeatMonk
@TheDoortoBeatMonk 2 ай бұрын
A cool thing about Lewisohn that is Phillip Norman's book, Shout!, is that Mark provided, for the first time, the definitive researched date of the day that John met Paul at the Woolton Village Fete, as it had been previously reported anywhere from 1955-1959. No one knew the correct year, let alone the date, or even how to look it up. Lewisohn figured it out, and fairly simply as well. Mark is also discussed in the Epilogue of the book, on pages 396-397, which demonstrated how Beatlemania has lived on, as a 22 year old man listening to boots of the Decca sessions, Hamburg Tape, and a Christmas Fan Club record, and is described as the "Beatle Brain of Britain." Reading this boot in 1981 was my first introduction to Lewisohn. Greater things were to come, as we now know. :)
@Kieop
@Kieop 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, John's family had photos of the event, but they were sure it was in 1956. so everyone accepted that date for years.
@1208bug
@1208bug 2 ай бұрын
Good work covering this, thank you!
@RobbieCalifornia69
@RobbieCalifornia69 2 ай бұрын
I think the expanded version is absolutely amazing. I guess you have to be a crazy Beatles' fan to read all that detail, but honestly, I thought it was the best Beatle book ever. Mark is a great writer and puts you in the streets of Liverpool and Hamburg ... you can taste the grit, smell the post WW2 decay and hear the primitive rock and roll coming out of the basements.I just hope I can read 2 & 3 before my time is up.
@cmorales932
@cmorales932 2 ай бұрын
Mark’s chosen a very rocky road. To be a biographer of a living person (s) or their survivors means that you will be making those people very uncomfortable about owning their own story. Never mind that these are amongst the most famous and influential people of the last century. People who have enormous influence. Another person here drew a comparison to LBJ’s (36th President) biographer, Robert Caro. Caro published the first of his projected 3 volumes in 1982. The 5 th and final volume is still being awaited. Caro wrote about how doors were closed to him by Lady Bird Johnson. Until she agreed to sit for an interview over a brief period. During that time, those closed doors were opened. Only to be shut again after she spoke to him. I hope that Lewisohn can hold out and persevere.
@neiljackson3133
@neiljackson3133 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking Robert Caro's LBJ biography.
@scottiwen4745
@scottiwen4745 2 ай бұрын
@@neiljackson3133 And Robert Caro turns 89 on October 30th! My other wishlist books (besides these biographies) that I worry may not be finished are George R. R. Martin's "Winds of Winter" and "A Dream of Spring," which would complete the "A Song of Ice and Fire" series (i.e. Game of Thrones). But I am no longer mad or disappointed that these books may not be finished (kind of what Matt was suggesting), and focus on being thankful that I was able to enjoy the excellent books that were made available.
@nicknikipediacaulkin5943
@nicknikipediacaulkin5943 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating video, Matt, really enjoyed it. Mark is a great and thorough writer and you explained the complexities of writing Tune In so well. Perhaps the situation will change now that Jeff Jones has stood down. Then again, listening to what Mark said here, maybe it won’t!
@inverross9019
@inverross9019 2 ай бұрын
Calling George a bastard, or others similarly, may not help.. even if he or the said others were.. George could no doubt sometimes be a bitter and twisted person.. as he proved with his complex attitude towards Paul, and sometimes even John. He went to court to stop the Star Club Tapes re-appearing before the Internet made all that redundant. No way would ;Now and Then; have re-surfaced if he was around.
@jespernielsen8549
@jespernielsen8549 2 ай бұрын
I was 13 when I heard The Beatles on the radio in 1963 and I've been hooked ever since, but it's sad knowing that I probably won't be alive to read volume 3 of Mark Lewisohn's excellent work.
@Greg_vmp
@Greg_vmp 2 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. I listened to Tune In on audible, but subsequently purchased long and mass market versions. It is amazing piece of work. I am one of those patient ones and trying not to think how long it is going to take to complete this project, but thank God for Mark Levisohn. Hopefully it is not long we will hear from him.
@martinsplichal1581
@martinsplichal1581 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to reading it when it comes out. Cheers Matt.
@TheBeatles..
@TheBeatles.. 2 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis!
@rogertemple7193
@rogertemple7193 2 ай бұрын
Another great episode about the Beatles and Apple Records thanks Matt.🎶🇬🇧🎸🎸🥁🎹🇬🇧🎶
@kristian_goddard
@kristian_goddard 2 ай бұрын
I had no idea that Lewisohn was going to incorporate the Recording Sessions book into the next volume of Tune In. I had heard talk of an extended Recording Sessions book. Man, that is some undertaking!
@hughjaynis4876
@hughjaynis4876 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant update!
@DocDoccus
@DocDoccus 2 ай бұрын
Apple should be proud of Mark Lewisohn's work and should continue to cooperate with his ongoing endeavors. I will forever remember my encounter with Mr Lewisohn in an elevator at Fest For Beatles Fans in New Jersey 2023. He likes bananas.
@erniericardo8140
@erniericardo8140 2 ай бұрын
Im sure he doesnt like Apple(s) very much
@clambeandip
@clambeandip 2 ай бұрын
This was a good one, Matt. They all are. I've been enjoying your posts awhile now. I know and admire Lewison and, instead of asking him what's going on, this has been informative. Thanks for all you do - Glen Burtnik from The Weeklings (you did a nice little mention of us recently re: JEM Records' tribute discs)
@terryprill2510
@terryprill2510 2 ай бұрын
Oh No!!! so that's why this valuable history is being held up for release. Apple has gone so sour....But even this could make the story more unfettered by them, we'll have to wait and see. Thanks Matt, again, your thoroughness to explain all this to us made it much easier to understand the release delay.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Terry!
@astrosjer822
@astrosjer822 2 ай бұрын
Your best video in a while. Great work! Mark L had stuck to his guns and will do each volume in due time even without no help from Apple at all
@earlgrey3461
@earlgrey3461 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this great episode Matt (longtime fan here, I don’t think I’ve commented yet). Mark Lewisohn is the ultimate Beatles biographer. His work is painstaking- it’s mind blowing how much work he put into Tune In (I proudly own an inscribed copy). He’s a great guy too! During the pandemic, he was a speaker at the virtual version of the Fest for Beatlefans. He did a q & an after… for some weird reason there weren’t a lot of questions, so I got a nice 4-5 minute chunk of time on Zoom with Mark. Such a good hearted guy! Anyway, it’s great to see him getting kudos out there. Also good to see Steven and Jason get a little shout out from you, for their magnificent Nothing Is Real podcast! Thanks much, and keep on keeping on!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for commenting and being a longtime fan!
@itsthewa
@itsthewa 2 ай бұрын
I'm *crushed* by this. The first book was a utterly singular, a complete revelation. I have been waiting and waiting and wondering why the sequel was five years (now) later than Lewisohn had predicted. Now I know, and the reason couldn't be more disheartening. Apple, you're spitting on a treasure who only wants to properly and completely tell (as Lewisohn put it) "the greatest love story in history, when the whole world fell in love with the Beatles".
@aisle_of_view
@aisle_of_view 18 күн бұрын
That's a bummer, although I recall a story Tom Petty shared about a time that George came to his house and Tom had one of the Unsurpassed Masters in his possession. He played the Help! takes for George, to which George became somewhat upset, suddenly learning that these high quality recordings had made it out of the vaults.
@SurferJoe1
@SurferJoe1 2 ай бұрын
Extremely interesting- some of this excellent channel's best work. I'd had it in my head from years ago (or misheard?) that Barrett was ill when he started his work in the archives but this is a much clearer story.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Joe!
@stevendavis1940
@stevendavis1940 2 ай бұрын
I lived through the Beatles era in real time, and it was amazing. I love Lewisohn's work and have the highest respect for him. I do want to read the rest of it badly. However, I don't think he can do it. He has too much to do alone, and he has impediments. Thanks for a good video here.
@paulcassidy953
@paulcassidy953 2 ай бұрын
An excellent video Matt. Thanks. All the best.
@EmeraldWoodArchives
@EmeraldWoodArchives 2 ай бұрын
I've always found it strange that for all the enlightenment that Harrison espoused he did remain a pretty bitter guy. Mark was done dirty by Apple. His research work is invaluable. We would never even have heard of "Carnival Of Light" without him, and the fact that George blocked it in the 90s because it was too "avant-garde" yet we have a reissue of Electronic Sounds and whatever records Yoko made in the 70s that no one bought then or now is totally absurd.
@daddyagogo
@daddyagogo Ай бұрын
Really glad you did this update - I’m one of those impatiently eager for Vol II and appreciate all the original reporting in Vol. I. For years all the hacks just repeating the same lore. Not Mark.
@cbennet1
@cbennet1 2 ай бұрын
The idea that Mark OWES us something other than the best work he can do WHEN he can do it is just unreal to me.
@onlysleeping8934
@onlysleeping8934 2 ай бұрын
I don't know how you do it Matt but another amazing Beatles related video. I really enjoy all your videos but especially the Beatles themed ones. Looking forward to your continuing reviews of the Capitol albums. It's been a while but I absolutely love those. All the best to you & your family. You rock! Kenny from Jersey
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 2 ай бұрын
Matt as always a v good and informative video thank you and I look forward to your next Beatles related video
@sebastianmaharg
@sebastianmaharg 2 ай бұрын
Excellent piece, Matt.
@joeoconnor5400
@joeoconnor5400 Ай бұрын
There are now so many bootlegs on CD and vinyl from Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, and The Who and Traffic, making it on to Amazon. The Lennon-Ono and Harrison estate can no longer control this. The floodgates will eventually open.
@stuartbayens4495
@stuartbayens4495 2 ай бұрын
Just adding to the chorus ... Thanks Matt. Great work as always. Just another case of the greedy hanging onto, and re-writing, their own history. I wish Mark well and I hope I live long enough to see Books 2 and 3.
@joeoconnor5400
@joeoconnor5400 Ай бұрын
I have a bootleg on casette of The Beatles Sessions LP, which was given to me by a former radio DJ at what was then Beacon Radio in Wolverhampton.
@joeoconnor5400
@joeoconnor5400 Ай бұрын
I also have the promotional cassette released by Heneiken of The Beatles that included a number of tracks in true stereo. Remember that one?
@aunch3
@aunch3 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t realize I only read the abridged version of Tune In. I’ll have get the complete work now. I just hope Mark is able to get these done just for the amount of effort he’s put into this.
@ediblehorse
@ediblehorse 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Matt! Another great vid.
@gregsandell
@gregsandell 2 ай бұрын
Mark is a true Beatles fan and talented writer. Edit: My question to people who would criticize Mark for not having the new book out is this: Would you rather have Mark put out a book that he feels doesn't do justice to The Beatles' story? If you do, then I respect your preference. I would rather he write the book that he feels is worthy of telling The Beatles' story.
@michaelharrington75
@michaelharrington75 2 ай бұрын
I would rather him do it right too, but it's been a long time. And when he's going around doing other projects it will take even longer. I haven't seen anything involving Mark for a while now. Hopefully that's a sign that he's writing volume 2? I could be wrong, but I also believe volume 3 will come much faster after volume 2 than the space between volume 1 and 2. Hopefully the trilogy is finished within the next 6 or 7 years?
@gregsandell
@gregsandell 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelharrington75 Great points. Agreed.
@tonyfafoglia2927
@tonyfafoglia2927 2 ай бұрын
I've listened to a bunch of interviews with Lewisohn over the last 10 years or so. He's mentioned one of the issues of working on this project is that there's always new info coming to light. He stated more than once that there was new information that he recieved but didn't include it because Tune In was already being published. I myself hope I get to read the last 2 volumes.
@JackPerram-n2t
@JackPerram-n2t 2 ай бұрын
Best segment to date! Thanks.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
That's very kind. Thank you!
@alasdair8778
@alasdair8778 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant.Thank you.
@barryballinger5912
@barryballinger5912 2 ай бұрын
This is an excellent honest video thank you
@michael.in.taiwan
@michael.in.taiwan 2 ай бұрын
This was really interesting, thanks. I knew about the bootleg allegations, and I thought that might have something to do with his fallout with Apple. But I didn't know it came from Harrison. Thanks for the podcast recommendations.
@pdd60absorbed12
@pdd60absorbed12 2 ай бұрын
Nice work, Matt. You're more than qualified to interview Mr. Lewisohn if that could be arranged 👍
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
I hope to do that some day.
@SceneComparisons
@SceneComparisons 2 ай бұрын
thanks for the video
@briteness
@briteness 2 ай бұрын
I read Tune In several years ago. It was, of course, excellent. Lewisohn's story reminds me a lot of Robert Caro, who has been working for decades on his 5 volume history of Lyndon Johnson. Volume 4 came out 12 years ago, and people are waiting, patiently or impatiently, for the final book. Caro is now almost 90 years old, and it is unclear if he will ever finish it. Even if he does not, it is an extraordinary work. Another way in which Lewisohn reminds me of Caro is that Caro had the cooperation of LBJ's wife and her circle of friends throughout the period he was working on the first volume. Then, after the book was published, he was shut out completely and permanently. Nobody said why, although we might imagine it was because Caro was simply too honest. The picture of LBJ that emerges is certainly not whitewashed. For Lewisohn, maybe somebody was uncomfortable with some of the material that was published in Tune In. Since probably nobody knows the full extent of the archival material, they may want to protect themselves from any number of unpleasant revelations. I have some sympathy for that position, and less for Lewisohn's apparent belief that he is simply entitled to access.
@Neal_Schier
@Neal_Schier 2 ай бұрын
I feel kinda/sorta/but not really bad that my first inclination was to think it was Yoko who was blocking it. Not that we would ever have reason to think that she would do such a thing 😅 It does make you wonder though what really is behind the Apple situation. If he had a good working relationship with Neil Aspinall what then could have spoiled it to this extent? This is a pretty deep divide. Not to "both sides" the issue, but I have a hunch there are a few layers to this story. Excellent program Matt. This is why we are proud to be Patreon supporters. This is quality work and metits both support and a wide audience.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Neal!
@urasam2
@urasam2 2 ай бұрын
Roger Scott certainly did play full versions of some of the John Barrett tapes - I recorded them off air
@Chucklea9
@Chucklea9 2 ай бұрын
Yet another truly superb video. I especially enjoyed your philosophical comments regarding people who were lucky enough to experience The Beatles in real time. Some great observations
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Chuck!
@billslocum9819
@billslocum9819 2 ай бұрын
Disappointed but not surprised that Mark Lewisohn was frozen out. Reading "Tune In," the strongest impression I was left with was how cold the Fabs were in person when it came to people who had helped them in their climb to the top. I think it's an absolutely fair characterization from my outside view. If it was just one person holding it up, I think there would be push back from the others. Lewisohn is a critical record keeper for the band's legacy while it is still a matter of living memory to our planet. I think if there was a division among the four chairs, it would not cause this total breakdown. So I'm dubious on the Olivia angle.
@NickCinoMusic
@NickCinoMusic Ай бұрын
My hope is that the long wait means the next two volumes come out in quicker succession
@tsamantas
@tsamantas 15 күн бұрын
This is directly from Mark Lewisohn's website:
@greenatom
@greenatom Ай бұрын
I wonder if this has to do with The Beatles' image, especially as Disney becomes more involved. Disney and especially Apple of course, have a lot invested in the Beatles, and I'm certain there is a lot of "cancellable" stuff that if written about by Lewisohn might possibly turn off potential or existing fans. That's my theory anyway.
@TomC.156
@TomC.156 2 ай бұрын
I wish Lewisohn would just do 1963 and early '64 - through Sullivan - for the next volume. Then just '64 for the 3rd volume. These were perhaps the most interesting years. If he did that and no more, I'd be satisfied. But we've got to get at least '63 - an amazing year!!
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 ай бұрын
The most interesting years are towards the end. When they realized James was ripping them off big time and got rid of him. George Martin suggested they go to James dropping Ardmore and Beechwood, who were actually an EMI company. Why, when they promoted _Love Me Do_ very well? A big brown envelope under the table comes to mind, as Martin was not well paid. The Beatles dropped Martin for Let it Be.
@Kiln99
@Kiln99 2 ай бұрын
Hi .. imho the delay in publishing vol 2 & 3 is purely down to Lewisohn patiently waiting for the main protagonists to pass on to t'other side beyond the worldly realms of litigation.
@paulbattifora7617
@paulbattifora7617 2 ай бұрын
I got all those in hardcover form. Priceless
@chrismcgovern1647
@chrismcgovern1647 2 ай бұрын
LUV Nothing is Real, it's one of the best Beatles pods to listen to
@neiljackson3133
@neiljackson3133 2 ай бұрын
Mark Lewisohn always comes over as a decent guy. I read two volume Tune In and it is a weird read because I know what happens in the story but it so exciting.
@SiecoVideo
@SiecoVideo 2 ай бұрын
Paul Rogers on display in the background, a great LP.
@grahampratchett8207
@grahampratchett8207 2 ай бұрын
Hi Matt, I had met Mark at his shows in London, at his show(s). On meeting him, he at the time didn't know my name, Just to him I was just Graham. Later he got back to me because of my Surname (Pratchett). He stood surprised, and told me he had written about me, (and some school friends) in the 'latest' Book that came inside the Abbey Road Deluxe Edition. Having had that deluxe box set. And slowly working my way through the book. I found myself mentioned. Because at that previous months. My friends and I were arrested (and appeared in court, Two Year Suspended) due to attempted stealing of an ABBEY ROAD STREET SIGN. The judge had to have it explained by the arresting constable, what was happening around this year(s). And to Add to your description the person who caught Mark out going through Apple's & The Beatles Private Paperwork. Was George Harrison himself. He wanted Mark thrown out of the building. Thourghly enjoying this.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Graham!
@electropainted
@electropainted 2 ай бұрын
funny, i am just now listening to the TUNE IN audiobook in late 2024 and it's even better than i had expected. fascinating and i'm only getting into the account of year 1960. great respect for the level of relevant, interesting detail. i know i'll soon be hungry for the delicious sequel. c'mon Paul and Ringo, step in here and pull some strings, you know you want to read it too. lol
@QuesoWatt
@QuesoWatt 2 ай бұрын
That was extremely interesting. Thank you!
@marcelofroes5661
@marcelofroes5661 2 ай бұрын
I met Mark on Abbey Road in August 1992, when he was listening to all John Lennon session tapes. I sat beside a pile of original 1974 tapes from the Walls and Bridges sessions. That led to nothing and he never commented this.
@sraileus
@sraileus 2 ай бұрын
That’s not correct that his work “led to nothing.” His research was the beginning of what became the JOHN LENNON ANTHOLOGY box set. Unfortunately, he had a misunderstanding with Yoko and was removed from the project, but he did 99% of the work for the people who did end up getting the credit.
@mickcarlon8147
@mickcarlon8147 2 ай бұрын
I've read every single Beatles book--and RECORDING SESSIONS and TUNE IN are the absolute VERY VERY VERY BEST.
@MissAstorDancer
@MissAstorDancer 2 ай бұрын
Have you done any videos on the inaccuracies in "Recording Sessions"? Yes, I know I could probably google that, but I thought I would ask you first. Given this content here, that seemed like the logical thing to do. Thanks for this update!
@daveidmarx8296
@daveidmarx8296 2 ай бұрын
The supposed Paul-sung version of I Want You (She's So Heavy) that appeared on Rough Notes comes to mind.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 ай бұрын
I have not. There are many sources - especially the Giles Martin "remixed" box sets which are also controversial and bitched about by many. I may do some instrumental breakdowns in a different fashion than focussing on just one book on the topic.
@Deebhoy
@Deebhoy 2 ай бұрын
Great video Matt. Whilst the frustration is understandable, I'd much prefer Mark to be satisfied with the finished product because he knows it will be poured over whilst also being cherished for years to come, much in the same way Vol 1 is. Having listened to the man on a number of occasions his passion and commitment to The Beatles and to getting it right shines through. Apple and George in particular, got it wrong, and it is a loss for them. Like many fans I've been very critical of Apple and how they have handled Beatles related products, especially the Let It Be boxset, which is frankly, terrible (The White Album is great though!). I hope Mark completes this mammoth journey and is handsomely rewarded.
@winsfordtown
@winsfordtown 2 ай бұрын
When Roger Scott died the Beatles Monthly specifically mentioned that he had been a secret contributer to the magazine for years, having first met John and Yoko at the Montreal Bed in. Mark Lewisohn may well have been the person he wrote it. I remember George saying that he didn't feel a need to know what happened to the group every single day.
@fredgien
@fredgien 2 ай бұрын
The Complete Beatles Recording book is in our bathroom. Every time i have to spend some time there, this book is on my lap!!
@miked6335
@miked6335 2 ай бұрын
Nice video! Bought the cheaper version of 'Tune In' when it first came out. Now you sucked me into buying the extended version! I forgot it was over 10 years ago. Hope things work out for Mr Lewisohn.
@Joe67343
@Joe67343 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this post Matt. Lewisohn is the GOAT (haha). Being pre-fame days, I took a pass on Tune-In Vol 1, but Vol 2 & 3 greatly interest me, hope I get to read them. Cheers!
@stevestroh2267
@stevestroh2267 2 ай бұрын
To me, the pre fame days are the best part of the story. The journey to the top was incredible and there were so many instances where it all could have ended before it all began.
@mcarp555
@mcarp555 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to mention Lewisohn's work with _The Beatles London,_ which is now out of print. I have a very dog-eared copy that has had much use in my wanderings around the city. And for non-Lewisohn material, the series of books from Apcor detailing the rise and fall of Apple Records.
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