🎮 Get both the LATEST and CLASSIC games with a discounted price up to 90% OFF: www.instant-gaming.com/?igr=Nariva Using this link helps out the channel A LOT at absolutely ZERO additional cost to you! Thank you! *To clarify - This video is my opinion.* The mods in the video are not bad and will most likely not break your game. I simply believe there are better alternatives for most of them. For FNIS - FNIS has creature support whereas Nemesis doesn't. If you want creature animations, you should keep FNIS or consider using Pandora. However, if you only want to focus on player/NPC animations, Nemesis or Pandora should be your go-to. For Alternate Start - I still use Alternate Start and it's great! For survival mods - Sunhelm is purely my mod of choice given its simplicity. There is nothing wrong with the other mods. For NPC mods - I recommend you try them and see if they work for yourself. Mod authors put a lot of work in these mods and I don't want to out anyone or their work down. I suggest you try the mods you want to try and see if they work for yourself. You might not encounter the issues I said in the video. Every mod list is different. :)
@dogeprissy98506 ай бұрын
Dogshit opinion. Never cook again
@heretohavefun56466 ай бұрын
could you just upload your modlist as a collection for us?
@ryanbousfield94656 ай бұрын
Nemesis does have creature support it’s just another mod
@skipbaker11895 ай бұрын
It only PC
@HypercomboProduction5 ай бұрын
I just got a new laptop, but it can't run Skyrim very well. Any suggestions for the Xbox?
@Cwronaga2166 ай бұрын
The reason the community has beef with arthmoor is due to his incredibly anti-Community stance regarding the unofficial Skyrim special edition patch. He now only supports the version of his patch designed for bethesda's latest official update and only supports mods that are compatible with bethesda's official update . He has actively gone out of his way to remove or delete all older versions of the patch meaning there's no technically legal way for users on older versions of the game such as the pre-anniversary and pre-creation versions to get the unofficial patch which many mods that are beloved by the community required to run. If asked about older versions of The Unofficial patch he will actively block or delete the comment or even ban the user and will often reply with something condescending like "the game is old move on abandon your old mods that are not compatible with my patch" and offers no support to the community. Also in recent years he has asked a few other creators such as juicehead to delete their channels for one reason or another. He's become a rather toxic individual which is why I now back up older versions of his patch in remove all other mods by him from my load order. Same goes for Fallout 4
@Cwronaga2166 ай бұрын
@@alexwalters35 there's actually a lot of reasons to not be on the latest version of Skyrim. First of all most people never asked for these updates yet every time they do they introduce new bugs new issues poorly integrated DLCs and of course breaks the script extender which most modern mods rely on. Not to mention some of the best mods on the Nexus are from Mod authors that have since stepped away from the community usually due to things like bethesda's updates and there haven't been modern Alternatives produced by other mod authors. Also when the game updates if you had any mod that was specific to the version of the game you were playing on before you now have to wait to continue with your load order for that mod author to update which may or may not ever occur. So it is always best to stick to whatever version of the game provides the best compatibility for your specific load order. I stick with the original anniversary edition patch because I had no interest in the creations and there are many brilliant mods that have since reintegrated or rebalanced the AE content . As for Fallout 4 the modding Community is nowhere near as large and robust and due to previous issues with Bethesda in the past many mod authors have left so the only way to get access to many of the game's great mods is to stick to the version that was stable for years prior to the Next Gen update which has introduced a slew of new problems. But it really just comes down to what your load order that you want to use requires as there may be some features you want in your game that are only available for a mod for a specific version and you as a player should not be required to abandon or miss out on the experience you want with your game because one specific mod author is gatekeeping the community or because Bethesda keeps trying to squeeze money out of a decade ish old game. You should always use whatever version of the game is best for the load order you are trying to create so luckily it is very easy to download specific game versions and prevent updates using steam console and there are plenty of ways to find older versions of The Unofficial patch it is important for the bug fixes it provides through archived links that bypass the authors attempts to hide them
@MajinZer06 ай бұрын
Yeah i remember when a new ae version came out and i decided to roll back. I had to find the ussep achive from a reddit post.
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
Very interesting... Dramaaaa 👀
@cjaquino286 ай бұрын
The man is toxic and full of himself, yes. But honestly, there is no reason to use an older version of USSEP, since the latest version is compatible with all versions of the game. The problem is that Arthmoor doesn't explain that because that seems to be beneath him. Also, it is the community's fault, since no one has come up with something that competes with USSEP. In a way, we got what we deserved with him.
@MajinZer06 ай бұрын
@@cjaquino28 i realize that now. but at the time i wasn't using the "best of both worlds" option for the downgrade patcher. so i had to find an older version.
@davemurray84286 ай бұрын
To reprise a comment I made last week about a JSON library, there is such a thing as mature, stable code that doesn't need to be updated. Just because a mod hasn't had an update in several years doesn't mean it is broken, it is often preferable to a newer mod that is constantly being updated to fix bugs.
@ToaOnichu6 ай бұрын
I think I stopped tracking or using a couple mods precisely because they kept getting updated practically every single day--maybe even multiple times per day. Also because of this tendency, I'm pretty wary about installing a mod on its release date, especially if the mod is a big one.
@101Mant6 ай бұрын
That's rarely the case with more complex mods though, they usually just get abandoned with whatever bugs they have as the modder moves on to other stuff. Then Skyrim updates and half the stuff breaks.
@drayde41556 ай бұрын
It's a nice dream to have, but the reality is that most mods get abandoned mid development, and then on top of that they get f ed over by a random update that todd decides to release
@XaliberDeathlock5 ай бұрын
@@101Mant no, that's misleading. when skyrim updates the mods that are going to be incompatible are SKSE-based mods (the ones with .dll plugin). mods that "break" usually are users' errors. users always install lots of stuff without even knowing that two-three mods are doing the same thing.
@NoirMorter3 ай бұрын
Yup. Code for some mods will never need updating accept for how Bethesda has the entry point for mods. They allow mods but it's not "friendly" though it is the most open studio to modding.
@adrianwebster69236 ай бұрын
The Notice Board and Missives are really complimentary mods. Completely compatible with each other and not being updated in years doesnt matter as they are complete and finished products.
@mesmo48886 ай бұрын
I run both actually and they're fine with most of what I'm using. I'm also using FNIS bc I'm too lazy to watch any tutorials 🤣
@jimjam79286 ай бұрын
Yeah I have both in a save that has gone from SE to AE with zero issues
@LordSaucyPickles5 ай бұрын
Yeah the dude who made the notice board (or i think the other) loved the others mod so much he made another version with more quests and made sure to make it compatible
@antiope-d97805 ай бұрын
@@mesmo4888 bruh cmon, you dont need tutorials to use nemesis. its plug and play just like FNIS, just better in everyway too
@samakiraroyjanssen6326Ай бұрын
@@adrianwebster6923 sadly that only lasts until you get a quest to give something to an enemy npc, like orchandor (boss of peryitr quest line)
@electriczap60826 ай бұрын
Throughout watching this, ive realized my mod list that ive been using for YEARS had both the "old/outdated" mods and the "use these insted mods", for almost every mod you mentioned. This really cleaned my modlist of things I didnt even know I still had.
@adrak916 ай бұрын
I would never uninstall interesting NPC's in a million years
@SyncNAH6 ай бұрын
Giving me zero issues in my current playthrough on the latest version of Skyrim. Love it
@demianbt21966 ай бұрын
I always wanted to try that mod but can u says little thing about that mod pls,I had that mod in my 6.640 now I m on 1170 but not instal that mod cause I don't see anything different on npc what that mod actually do
@adrak916 ай бұрын
@@demianbt2196 it adds a whole bunch of npc's followers that have quests kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJvbp2Smoph-obc
@taxace1116 ай бұрын
Its one of the best mods out there while this dude talks about hot dog carts is a good move!
@SoCHobbit6 ай бұрын
Yeah im on board with like...90% of the things mentioned in this mod. When he mentioned the populated cities mod i fully agreed, its broken my game before. But cutting interesting npcs...heresy of the highest order and i require an apology asap. Jk, but yeah, Interesting npcs is a mainstay for me and ive never had crash issues with it. Worst thing ive had is ai pathing issues, something ive experienced plenty of times in vanilla skyrim.
@theobell20025 ай бұрын
"You need to uninstall these mods right now." Me upon seeing your coomer mods.
@akai49423 ай бұрын
Same.
@Hustlery2 ай бұрын
Lmao xD
@oldgold82472 ай бұрын
"Friendly fire will not be tolerated"
@ncrrangerrolandtembo4615Ай бұрын
@@oldgold8247 I use mods to expand my game with more lore friendly content and some other stuff like bigger towns and better combat and stuff like that but not coomer 💩 not shaming tho do you
@TheBiggestMoronYouKnowАй бұрын
real...
@Temporal7Lizardo5 ай бұрын
This is very rare kind of video. Almost no one has compiled a good list of outdated mods and alternatives. Thank you for this video!
@loadishstone2 ай бұрын
Seriously. It's soooo amazing.
@wishwewere12566 ай бұрын
This kind of video is much needed. Every video talks about mods you need to have, but no one talks about bad mods you need to get rid of for the sake of stability of your game. Subscribed.
@taxace1116 ай бұрын
Ya but this guys pc is modern top of the line while the other millions of regular players out there still use their still working older pc and graphics.
@Diablo_Himself6 ай бұрын
Also, almost nobody says you don't NEED any mods at all...?
@LordSaucyPickles5 ай бұрын
@@Diablo_Himself i do
@Original-Alastor4 ай бұрын
@@LordSaucyPicklesFr. I like vanilla but some kids can be nice too. I usually like the graphic mods mainly.
@Scoots_McBoots4 ай бұрын
@@taxace111 The current ones listed will likely *improve* their performance, not make it worse.
@Deehvad6 ай бұрын
47-year-old FNIS user here. That hurt. :(
@petitemerald6 ай бұрын
Time to let go man
@HookerHeels6 ай бұрын
31 year old user who is reinstalling/building a new list for the first time in a long time and was about to install FNIS here, also hurt.
@danielsims36736 ай бұрын
@@petitemerald Well, I also still have FNIS but I am able to run it and NEMESIS simultaneously due to some code hacking my wife did (She knows code and has many friends who are modders). It's sort of an in house job to be a catch all for animations. So... yeah I still use it and have it fully compatible with NEMESIS so I actually run both.
@demianbt21966 ай бұрын
How to use xp32 on nemesis then if not going to use fnis .for my case nemesis always says failed to generate,so I have both fnis and nemesis then it works,pls help
@YordleQueen6 ай бұрын
I just turned 27 in April so hearing that was a shocker for me too lol
@jhustmyles2756 ай бұрын
2:18 I wouldn't really say that Campfire/Frostfall/Last Seed are going to risk damaging your save or computer more than any other set of mods, they're just a little more mechanically complex is all. They're also all just as configurable as Sunhelm, and have a great amount of mod support. The only area they're kinda lacking in is the UI department, but you can fix that yourself using and configuring the iWantStatusBars mod. If you want to use Sunhelm or Starfrost or CC Survival mode, more power to you. But there's no reason to warn people away from older or more complex mods in doing so.
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
No, no, the other Survival mods don't break anything But the complex mechanics would be a turn off for new players who might see those being the most popular of the category
@danielsims36736 ай бұрын
@@NarivaTV I actually prefer iNeed not going to lie. Mostly because I tried Sunhelm some time back and I'm not sure if this is still a thing at that time it integrated itself into the CC Survival mode. Meaning, when you tried to uninstall it then it would cause issues with your game requiring a full reinstall and clean to remove it. Now that might have changed when I tried it but it's one reason I started to curse that mod and went back to iNeed. Which is fine because I have done many playthrough's with it without issue.
@levib00572 ай бұрын
@@NarivaTV Don't put all new players in the same bucket. Some people like complexity, so this insistence that complex = bad is just ridiculous
@yamilcid98232 ай бұрын
Sunhelm has not follower support besides
@Rodr1ssАй бұрын
I totally agree, I would have preferred a video title saying "show case of great mods" rather than just trying to denigrate other mods that still work without problems today. A good finished mod does not need to be fixed like many of those that are presented today with bug fixes everywhere and patches needed for 50% of other mods, but maybe the creator of the video needed to upload something and made a rejoin. I also found it insulting how they keep putting titles that do not correspond to what they show or "To clarify - This video is my opinion. The mods in the video are not bad and will most likely not break your game", it becomes more notable how they laugh at those who watch the videos, treating them as mentally incapacitated in order to deceive them.
@ambiguouszenithar6 ай бұрын
Pandora is now a replacement for Nemesis and doesn't die when you have too many animations Edit: I paused literally the moment before you mentioned Pandora lmao
@shaun.shub20036 ай бұрын
I need a proper guide on how to switch from nemesis to pandora I have 10 k animations and too many behaviors I dont wanna risk it I tried it but there was no showing it so if you find link to any guides or could make a guide urself you're welcome to share I really need it
@selfaware76176 ай бұрын
@@shaun.shub2003 nemesis is also being rewritten and its possible you inevitably might need to spend a lot of time fixing things related to animations. I'm just guessing
@AubreyOnfroy6 ай бұрын
Pandora is great but animations for drinking potions don't work yet
@shikyokira30656 ай бұрын
@AubreyOnfroy Pandora is still new, so give it some time, it will mature soon. In the meantime, I'll finish the rewrite. There will be big changes to it and I'm in talks with monitor (pandora's author) about the upcoming changes to ensure compatibility
@shaun.shub20036 ай бұрын
@@shikyokira3065 alright I m excited
@kingofbel64994 ай бұрын
Since I have been testing mods for my 1700+ load order, I will write here my own opinion on the mods mentioned. Sunhelm: Amazing and more lightweight substitute to Frostfall. Takes care of the cold survival part as well as hunger, sleep and thirst needs. Also surprisingly compatible with pretty much every other mod. I also recommend Cold Behavior, a mod that makes NPCs wear warm clothing in cold areas. Wet & Cold is what most people use for that but in my experience it causes a lot of random CTDs, while Cold Behavior does basically the same but with less issues. Alternate Start: Personally I still stick to this one since its the most popular and got patches for pretty much every mod out there, also Skyrim Unbound while pretty good it skips some of the main quests, which cause issues with some mods, mostly dragon related. Honestly the only thing I dont like about Alternate Start is that it adds some NPCs and buildings to the game to compliment some of the start scenarios it has, but its not enough to be an issue. OBIS: Installed this one pretty recently actually, and other than a crash I had related to other mod (which I already removed), OBIS runs pretty well for me, and the bandit it adds are so fun to fight that its a must have mod for me now. Highly recommend it for enemy variation, and you can increase or decrease enemy quantity. Interesting NPCs: I was really confused that this guy doesnt seem to like this mod. Interesting NPCs is a must for me and pretty much everyone playing Skyrim. It never caused CTDs for me to the point I wouldnt use it tbh. It does adds buildings in locations that might conflict with other mods you have, but usually theres patches to fix that. The NPCs in this mod are definitely worth installing the mod. Notice Board: Another confusing one. I legit have Notice Boards, Missives, and Headhunter, all three in my load order for YEARS now and never had a single issue with them. Other than conflict with city mods of course, but theres patches to fix those. Capital Whiterun Expansion: This and Windhelm Expansion are amazing city mods and must have for me, but they can definitely hit your FPS pretty hard. And they conflict a lot with other mods, but theres patches to fix conflicts so imo they are still worth using if you want bigger cities. I also recommend Solitude Expansion but that one has even more conflicts since the dock area is also changed so keep that in mind. Immersive Equipment Display: I love this mod and I thought I would never stop using it, but sadly in my own experience I found out that it was causing my game to freeze/CTD during combat with many enemies. Like, my game crashed 3 times when I was trying to clear a bandit fort, and by chance I decided to turn IED off and I was surprised at how smooth the fight went. This might be just me tho, since my game always spawns a huge group of enemies, but I think its worth mentioning. Northern Roads: So this mod was a HUGE hassle to use, and it still requires a TON of patches for conflicts, but I pretty much made it work flawlessly after I set it at the very end of my load order priority. Turns out that LOOT can place this mod and its patches in wrong priorities due to LOOT not recognizing it in the right category of mods, so you have to manually make the mod overwrite everything else you got. That legit fixed every conflict this mod had in my 1700+ load order.
@donatomandetta60952 ай бұрын
@@kingofbel6499 please someone reply to this so I can save this comment ahaha
@FatodoMundo2 ай бұрын
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@donatomandetta60952 ай бұрын
@@FatodoMundo my saviour
@taxace1116 ай бұрын
Dude you just made enemies of many of the most popular veteran mod authors!
@strangeaeons35276 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm sure they know he exists.
@minkeymoo6 ай бұрын
Anything that pisses off arthmoor is a good day
@N7Dovahkiir6 ай бұрын
"If you don't have enemies, then you're doing something wrong" John Piper
@truckstopcowboytruckstopco56396 ай бұрын
Maybe they should update some shit then lol
@amakaqueru336 ай бұрын
I mean, the amount of ego they would need to have to get angry cuz someone say "Hey there is a better mod than your mod that you haven't update in 5+ years..."
@Aldhardt6 ай бұрын
On one hand I love northern roads. On the other I hate it because it loves to crash your game and needs a thousand different patches to even have a chance at working.
@n8killjoy5796 ай бұрын
u can have northern roads and put mds for "no roads" on top of it, so u won't have roads, but only clutter and bridges there's also "no roads no bridges" version on case u want to use other bridges i personally use the second option with some other mods for roads and bridges and it works just fine, environment cluttered very nicely))
@Didrikkhu6 ай бұрын
I have used "Interesting NPC" for many years, It was never a problem for me, but hey! maybe it's just me.
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
If it works and you don't have issues, keep it!
@KevinAkash-u5f6 ай бұрын
@@NarivaTV That defeats the purpose of the video tho. These mods do work and it's safe to install them!
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
@@KevinAkash-u5f Most are safe, but there are better alternatives. Some others are simply not recommended given incompatibility
@101Mant6 ай бұрын
Many people have been using it fine for years. It rarely adds more than a couple of NPCs to any given location so the argument that the engine can't cope really doesn't hold up. Some of the quests are buggy but worse case you can't finish that quest. It's not a simple as more NPCs equals bad, its too many NPCs in the same 0oace, particularly outdoors in cities causes problems.
@Wyrade5 ай бұрын
@@KevinAkash-u5f Pretty much none of the mods cause an issue if you're only using like 10-20 mods in total. But if you have an 500+ mod skyrim, it can indeed cause unwanted complications and problems in various, often subtle ways, if you use the some of the things mentioned in the video.
@starchman87586 ай бұрын
ive never had a single issue with interesting npcs or the capital expansions and my list is at like >600 mods
@yulianmercedes42636 ай бұрын
He is just trashing mods for no reason, clearly demonstrated that he doesn't know how to setup his own mod list and goes around giving advise based on his own misinformation
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
It's good if your game is stable! Depending on what other mods you have, you can run into issues such as AI incompatibility or crashes. But hey, if you have it and it works, keep it! :D I also have some mods on the list that I am keeping, but they would be hard to recommend to other people given some incompatibility issues (Like Capital Whiterun Expansion or JK's Skyrim, which I LOVE)
@RefRed_King6 ай бұрын
@@yulianmercedes4263 next level hating
@yulianmercedes42636 ай бұрын
@@RefRed_King interesting NPCs doesn't crash the game. Simply knock doesn't crash the game. CGO is and all around improvement on vanilla combat. I'm describing reality, not hating... I have 962 mods with less than 200 being only visual enhancements while the rest affect game functionality by adding or changing content and mechanics, my game doesn't crash with 16 non stop hours of playing (haven't tried longer). He lied (knowingly or not) about some of the mods in the video, and a lot of people will take those lies as truth. These "don't install mods" advise has to be given waaaay more carefully, not just "it's bad, trust me"
@SkyrimVictor6 ай бұрын
@@yulianmercedes4263 i would agree about updating skysa to mco, but not the cgo part because they're 2 different combat styles.
@Aaron-xo7px6 ай бұрын
This is great for people getting into modding, the old stuff will still have the endorsement numbers just because of the length of time its been out
@wolfwilkopter22315 ай бұрын
yeah dont go by endorsements, go for the category and sort by release from recent to stoneages then you'll find the newer and often better or at least lighter ones or atleast patches or patches for the old stuff, navigating the site more efficiently and smarter often helps to find what you need, want and didnt even knew you wanted till you found it.^^
@adropintheocean62825 ай бұрын
@@wolfwilkopter2231 sort by "trending"
@indrickboreale73815 ай бұрын
I honestly disagree with OBIS that I have no issues (it actually makes some mods even better), but this list can be very useful
@marymuir13566 ай бұрын
agree with using Nether's follower framework - it's been my go to for years. thx for the hint on book 'em - hadn't heard of it but will check it out to replace unread books glow.
@dawarror5 ай бұрын
THANK YOU, didnt realize Paartysnacks dilemma was the reason the main quest line was crashing so much, as soon as i got rid of it and used what you recommended i went back through the main missions and no crashes
@lsswappedcessna3 ай бұрын
The Paartysnacks Dilemma was going Allahu Snaackbar. I've been having that problem, too. Part of me is ashamed that a guy who is obviously running some questionable coomer mods is the reason I've fixed it. It would be like if MxR helped me get more back on my tax returns. On the one hand, thanks bro, on the other hand, I would hate to see your keyboard under a blacklight.
@christophorusnicko78495 ай бұрын
This is so helpful man, thanks, i've got both DAR and OAR on my modlist and "updated" it to OAR only and got even more enlightenment for other crucial mods I should've used. crazy.
@cht4736 ай бұрын
This video feels so misleading. I do not think any one of the mods in this video need to be avoided. Some are just different choices. Some newer ones don't even cover all features of the ones you want them to replace (e.g. Nemesis, Community Shader). Even using DAR is fine for some use cases and since it can be uninstalled any time, it doesn't matter if someone accidentally used it. And why "the mod hasn't been updated for years" is a reason not to use it? Most of those mods are finished products and they simply do not need updates at all. This is the same as USSEP using its description to trick people to update their Skyrim.exe. The better way to avoid CTDs is to just read mod descriptions before install, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@loadishstone2 ай бұрын
It's not misleading. He gives every reason for a mod being here. Let's work on media literacy. You are taking personal nitpicks and ignoring most of the reasons given. Weird. No one is putting a gun to your head. A basic fact of modding is that issues aren't a guarantee so it is understood from the start that these won't necessarily break your game.
@PhycoKrusk3 ай бұрын
Really, the best thing you can do to improve your Skyrim experience is to replace mods that use a lot of scripts with mods that don't use as many (or don't use scripts at all, if possible). While modern hardware (and even slightly less modern hardware) can generally handle the load, it's more things that can go wrong, more scripts that can get orphaned, more opportunities for memory leaks, more, more, more. Sometimes less is actually more; simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
@nekrovulpes3 ай бұрын
This. Any time you see a mod and when you hit download it gives you that pop-up saying "THIS MOD REQUIRES: SKSE version 2.1.34.6.2.98, SKSE Script Extender, SKSE Script Extender Extender 2.1.8995c hotfix, bunghole69's Extended Script Extender Toolset, RandomJackoff88's Annoying Dependencies...", you know you're gonna have a bad time.
@Charlie-vp5tnАй бұрын
Would be nice to know which script mods to avoid, because I have a few and my game freezes a lot.
@PhycoKruskАй бұрын
@@Charlie-vp5tn Hard to say without actually seeing the list (and can't just ask for one since YT doesn't have DMs), BUT: Any mod that modifies NPC behavior or adds new NPCs will have scripts. Unfortunately, these generally can't be replaced with lite or free mods and you have to rely on the author implementing them cleanly. Any mod that adds new areas will have scripts. As above, these can't be replaced with lite or free mods and you have to rely on the author implementing them cleanly. Any mod that gives additional actions that don't come with the game (e.g. dodge mods) often have scripts. For many of them, there are modern mods that have a lightweight script load or no scripts. Lastly, the ReSaver tool is pretty great. One of the critical things it can do is analyze your save file and actually identify orphaned scripts (and then remove them from the save instance). Be careful doing this, because there are some mods that deliberately create orphaned scripts and need them in place to run, but memory serving while I don't think it directly tells you the mod the script came from, it provides enough information that you can identify which mod created them. Ok, _lastly_ lastly, unless your machine is very old or a sweet potato, a high script load probably isn't going to cause a crash because it consumes too many resources. I'm not an expert, but it sounds to me like you have a mod collision; two or more mods that are trying to do incompatible things at the same time. Hate to say it, but about all you can do in those instances is start from scratch with no mods at all, and then add them in one at a time until you figure out which mod introduces the issue.
@Constellasian6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this list. I barely just jumped back into Skyrim after probably 7 years. Seeing the Nolvus videos made me reinstall the game. My game loads slow when starting up after installing Nolvus though. It's strange because I installed it on a brand new SSD drive. My rig is also brand new and uses 4090, i9 processor, and has 32gigs of RAM.
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
Very nice rig! Hope you have fun with the new mods :D
@ofnir1236 ай бұрын
Oh don't worry too much about it, Nolvus is a goddamn behemoth to load. I usually start MO, then start Nolvus, and then go for a smoke and pour myself some coffee after I come back inside. It usually JUST finishes loading when I get back in my room.
@Constellasian6 ай бұрын
@@ofnir123 Thanks for the info. I'm curious about something else now. The Nolvus website said to do a plugins sorting using the built in LOOT for MO2 after installation. Did you do this? I did it an hour ago and LOOT still isn't done sorting the plugins.
@caffs77776 ай бұрын
@@Constellasian I Don't sort using Loot after, just leave it in the order it's in already within MO2. Still takes ages to boot up, but it's loading a LOT of mods (Nolvus).
@da_roachdogjr10 күн бұрын
Just for explaining their place in our mod list for each mod, you've earned my sub sir.
@MorganRhysGibbons6 ай бұрын
Mods to Remove type videos are *extremely* valuable. Do more of these!
@VoxRatio4 ай бұрын
But he gives bad information on NPC mods. That shows a lack of homework.
@widowsiren86942 ай бұрын
@@VoxRatio if you can't play without your pixel waifu, that's on you
@VoxRatio2 ай бұрын
@@widowsiren8694 lmao, I specifically referring to the interesting NPCs mod. There is literally nothing game breaking about it. The info he gives is just bad.
@jeffsj...11982 ай бұрын
I had to stop watching and I as a rule trust your judgement, but so many of the suggested mods have a ghastly number of bugs and people complaining in comments they don't work correctly.
@blakemcdermott75736 ай бұрын
In this day and age of skyrim modding you just need to try avoiding mixing systems that accomplish the same thing, for example if your installing animation mods you have to pick FNIS or nemesis. You can technically get them working together but it's not a good idea so you should pick old and a larger selection or new and a smaller collection.
@tastefullynerdy11616 ай бұрын
for all that's holy, no, I'll NEVER remove 3D NPCS from my load order. I'm running 700+ mods and never had a single issue with Interesting NPCs. Other than that, solid video!
@noha7ers6 ай бұрын
Great video, very helpful. In most cases the mods that cause the most problems are those that have comments and/or bug section disabled. So this video is very useful
@lunarcontact6 ай бұрын
Please consider doing an Underrated Mod video. Interesting GENERIC NPCs; Thane Rooms; Carriage Stops; Lootable Crates; simple bath in inns etc
@stevenhiggins30555 ай бұрын
Yeah, I tried Simple Hunting overhaul and it was too... simple. To the point where it just felt like the regular loot menu with one extra step. There's nothing wrong with that of course, and did like that the animal was actually replaced with a skinned version, but other then that it wasn't really immersive for me. I guess I'm just too used to the more complex mods.
@jojonoa359014 күн бұрын
VERY helpful and informative video! The section on animations is a godsend cuz there are so many different plugins for animation mods that it can be overwhelming and confusing. The only part I really disagree with is the suggestion to remove any added NPC mods - for me mods like these breathe so much new life into a playthrough that I feel they're worth some added instability, provided you're doing what you can everywhere else to maximize performance.
@SunniestAutumn3 ай бұрын
I would rather have the game crash while having Interesting NPCs on than not have it crash without it. That mod alone is the reason for the game being worth playing anymore.
@Hullbreachdetected29 күн бұрын
If you like that, then try Mantella and AI-AF. That's the next level bro.
@NamelessKing1597Ай бұрын
6:17 I don't care, I'm using it. It adds a lot of npcs but they're pretty spread out, I don't think I've ever found more than 3 added to one worldspace. Imho it's worth it.
@silverblade357Ай бұрын
Seriously. I think he might have confused it with another mod because all the NPCs are unique.
@laerllik6 ай бұрын
Actually there are Lite versions of Capital Whiterun Extension and Capital Windhelm Extension by Gerald (author of unmarked locations pack) that even doesn't have plugin and use Base Object Swapper instead. So I think Capital Extensions still good and not avoidable
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
Good point, worth checking out
@alphaq6424 ай бұрын
Honestly need more of this. Not only you mentioned what mods would cause instability, but you also provide alternate solutions. This video help's MASSIVE and I can't thank you enough :))
@Gathaeryx6 ай бұрын
I don't get the issue with Northern Roads. Yes, it requires a lot of patches, which kinda makes sense since it affects EVERY road in Skyrim, but most of the patches are nicely bundeled and I haven't had any issues at all using it along with several city expansion mods and Lux Via. The only thing that might be an issue is NGIO, but then again, recreating grass cache is a good thing to do in general if you have a lot of mods that add objects in the world..
@MajinZer06 ай бұрын
It's a really good mod, but requires lot of time and patching for large load orders.
@tobybll6 ай бұрын
don't mind it buddy, I for example am a Lux and JK Skyrim user and enjoyer even tho both mods require tons of patches if you want to use it with other mods. Well if you do it right and know how to tweak your own load order I see no problem in it using some mods which are told by other to let go off.
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
That's the thing though. It requires a lot of patches and a lot of beginner modders will be turned off. I use Northern Roads and I love it but I have to admit that I spent some good hours patching everything out.
@jimjam79286 ай бұрын
@@NarivaTV Nah, the FOMOD handles all of that patching quite easily. I recently shoved Northern Roads and all of its patches into my old playthrough while I was checking out a lengthy quest mod that took me around Skyrim, and I was honestly shocked how well it worked alongside all of the old crap that I have in my ancient save.
@mike45blue6 ай бұрын
I like the mod when I have less than 100 mods installed, wish it played well with JK's Skyrim and Cathedral
@MP-wk9zh5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid - excellent points all around! Just a note about Book 'Em, it's not compatible with any mod that alters book weights or book names, like Better Skill and Quest Books Names SE. Also, the author is running game version 1.6.640 and has explicitly stated he will not update beyond that game version, nor will he support any issues with his mod on other game versions. Also, if anyone is interested in this mod, follow the link in this video. For some reason the mod won't show if you search on Nexus by its name.
@yanli1115 ай бұрын
I think you should probably direct pp into Pandora rather than nemesis, given the whole goal of this video. Nemesis is outdated and semi abandoned (also it never fully replaced FNIS). Fore announced his retirement early 2020, and nemesis received last update mid 2020, both have been abandoned for pretty much an equal amount of time. Pandora on the other hand, is still being developed, fully replaced both mod and fully backward compatible, and run much faster. There is no reason not to switch over, especially given how the other 2 is unlikely to get any new update. It’s like going from DAR to OAR, or CBP to CBPC, or HDT SMP to Faster HDT SMP….It’s a no brainer.
@freyala0245 ай бұрын
As far as I know Nemesis is being rewritten and the author is working with the Pandora author too
@Fr3nzy_Fox25 күн бұрын
What is buggy about simply knock? I use that mod and haven't noticed any problems with it.
@SkyrimPlus6 ай бұрын
Good to know! I'll try these changes in my next playthrough. Thanks for the tips, and great video!
@ThorTheCrusher6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Book 'em recommendation. I was thinking about redownloading a book mod like unread books glow but this does everything I need and more.
@monkinsane3 ай бұрын
Alternate Start - Alternate Perspective is buggy as hell. Don't use it if you have a large load order.
@polo57603 ай бұрын
@@monkinsane So true. I couldn't get it to start because I couldn't sleep in the bed since it was still "owned" because the inn keeper bugged out for me.
@Gaarafan0074 ай бұрын
I'm a couple days in to a new Skyrim install after a year of not playing, and your video is excellent for me to come across before I'm too far in. I love learning new mods that do what I loved better/ more stably. As a long time user of Campfire/Frostfall + Hunterborn, I'm now curious to check out these new mods for comparison. Also, I love that your video is like a slimmed down and more focused version of what MXR used to do, bringing a bit of that nostalgia. I'm gonna have to check out some of your other videos now that I've found you.
@NarivaTV4 ай бұрын
Glad I can help! Starting modding in 2024 is definitely not easy!
@Gaarafan0074 ай бұрын
@@NarivaTV Been modding for years now, but I haven't touched Skyrim since early 2023, and much has changed in that time.
@capoeragames20816 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for making such an easy way to keep up us update, i love modding skyrim but it's one of those games that eventually i just stop playing and never come back again and when i do, i have such a bad time tryin' to figure out separating the essential new mods and dependencies, i hope you keep doing these in the future, thanks once again!
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
Glad I can help! Coming back to modding can be very daunting!!
@BigotíndeLeche6 ай бұрын
I've modded and restarted the game like 4 times and now I am on the 5th try. It's literally hell when you start from 0 and have to install every essential things first, and it's hard to remember everything you need, sometimes you forget important mods lol.
@poshpolishpotato29765 ай бұрын
My game has been broken since an update last December. FNIS has been a staple mod in my load order for years. Maybe it is part of the reason ~85% of my mods are "redundant". Thanks for the video, I got some testing to do.
@luckybreadchop5 ай бұрын
Sunhelm instead of Frostfall? Yeah no, I just played over 20 hours with SunHelm, and while I enjoy the food, drink and sleep aspect, the "cold" side felt so lackluster, I was standing outside in a storm for HOURS before i even got the "Cold: Chilly" effect and this was with already tuned cold settings It is good for the rest, but specifically for the cold side it is just lackluster. I recommend disabling the cold on SunHelm, and using frostfall alongside it
@aetbhieiils22 күн бұрын
Whenever the community complains about random Skyrim updates that break modlists, there are people who respond "well duh just don't update the game then". But then there are also mod authors like Arthmoor. Who, for whatever reason, makes it difficult for players to support older version of the game.
@vitriolicAmaranth6 ай бұрын
A big note on MCO, DMCO, etc. At some point while installing these mods and their dependencies on the latest version of SSE, you will run into a problem: Animation Motion Revolution, which has not been updated in a while, has no comment from the author either and appears to have been abandoned with support only up to several patches ago. However, despite this, AMR works perfectly fine on 1.6.1170, allowing dodges and most custom MCO movesets to function correctly. Unfortunately to find this out you have to install it just hoping that its own description is wrong (which it is) or scroll past a page of comments begging the author to update it to find the one where somebody says the mod still works fine on every version up to 1.6.11xx. Also I got clickbaited by Northern Roads in the thumbnail. I already avoid city overhauls because my current install is on Deck and I don't think I could maintain a stable framerate with those AND ENB (tried to live without it, can't), but even dirty edits from other mods cause issues like gaps in the land. Irritating that it's 2024 and so many mods still have dirty edits in the first place.
@wolfwilkopter22315 ай бұрын
Yeah NR is a real nice mod, bu also a huge PITA and needs tons of patches, if you change anything ever so sligthly and it gets really nasty when you then want to combine it with the entire LUX suite and stuff, not to mention city expansions, outskirts and home/villagemods and so on... Pi-Cho ENB is still my goto with Azurite weathers, its just so...yummy.
@vitriolicAmaranth5 ай бұрын
@@wolfwilkopter2231 How does pi-cho compare to silent horizons in terms of performance? Unfortunately Skyrim is not one of thise games that runs surprisingly well on Deck, but Silent Horizons hasn't hurt my framerate too badly. Serenity had my favourite shaders for an enb back in the day, but iirc it was taken down or an update ruined it and the old version was no longer available, something like that.
@wolfwilkopter22315 ай бұрын
@@vitriolicAmaranth Well Pi-Cho is based on Silent Horizons, with a few tweaks here and there and i run a 3080 12Gig Aorus Master so that has enuff power to keep me atleast on the 60fps mark in QHD...i guess the differences in performance are marginal, but i must admit that i never tested the original silent Horizons ENB, but V2 looks awesome and tempting... I just took NR with Pi-Cho and Azurite weathers for the entire look they provide, turning Skyrim into the Witcher 3 Weather and Lighting wise and NR for the feel, like beeing in Skellige again.^^
@vitriolicAmaranth5 ай бұрын
@@wolfwilkopter2231 I do love the aesthetics of TW3, though I'd say SH already looks like that a lot of the time (just not 100% of the time; it looks its best when it's raining around sunrise or sunset, but often it barely looks better than vanilla indoors apart from AO).
@wolfwilkopter22315 ай бұрын
@@vitriolicAmaranth True Story Bro. :) Maybe i'm gonna try SH2 in my next run.
@JT_Hackks2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! Ive learned the hard way from using a lot of these mods over the years ! The reassurance from this video is great haha. Wish i had this years ago
@lingkangrui39586 ай бұрын
Bad call with interesting npc. It doest not cause crashes. Please use crashlog and analyse it before randomly hypothesizing which mod is causing CTD. If you don't know what a crashlog is or know how to go about analysing it, do not make such claims of CTD
@Orshabaal4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Interesting NPCs is considered to be a very safe mod, the issue is it has a lot of compatibility issues with other popular mods that need patching. It's still worth it though.
@selfmaderenegade68093 ай бұрын
Agreed. People hate on interesting NPCs but it's simply user error, they are either adding incompatibilities or failing to install all of the appropriate compatibility patches. As a newcomer to modding I had so many issues with conflicts and didn't know what LOOT, Tes5edit and wyrebash was 😂. Moral of the story, don't always trust the forums. I almost missed out on interesting NPCs coming back to this game after a years long break simply because of all the hate
@rustyjones790825 күн бұрын
I had an issue with a certain cutscene for a 3dnpc quest not activating. Turns out I was using a pet from the CC and its HUGE CHUNGUS COLLISION BOX was keeping an NPC from hitting its mark to start the scene (a vanilla engine issue). Ever get killed by trolls because your bone wolf decided the spot right behind your feet was a good time for a nap?
@Wyrade5 ай бұрын
This was surprisingly helpful after all my years of skyrim, especially as I haven't kept up with all the new things for the past 2-3 years or so. Thank you!
@uncleclaps446 ай бұрын
Realm of Lorkhan does not work well with Athrmoors Open Cities or SR Exterior Cities without copious amount of patches and will load you into the old interior city cell and can cause random guard encounter with a fire atronauch with guard dialogue arresting you and taking you back to Lorkhan. Probably best to avoid this one.
@EQOAnostalgia8 сағат бұрын
I don't use any of those and RoL is a must have in my LO. Best alt start mod by a MILE.
@Elentarien6 ай бұрын
Apart from the age comments (older player here. :P ), thank you for this list. Its been a couple of years since I've played. . .and i'm starting to feel the itch again, so will probably set things up again. Buuuut. . .any time I leave the game for awhile, it always means a massive pain to update my mods list. Sounds like it's time to dump all my mods and start building a fresh list. I use/have used a LOT of the mods you mention here, so it's good to have some updated recommendations. Any time I can simplify the mod list, keep the mods simple and lightweight - I like that - as long as I get the functionality I like. Open Cities is one I had to stop using ages ago, though. It truly was a compatibility nightmare. -.- Which sucked, but, yeah. Better to have a loading screen than all the troubles and lost NPCs falling below the city it caused. There are a few mods I can't really do without, but most of them can be dumped for newer, lighter weight versions.
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
Hey nothing but respect for older gamers! Not easy to make time to play Especially when it comes to modding. Sometimes it feels more draining than a 9 to 5, but I hope the video helps a little bit!
@redgeoblaze37526 ай бұрын
Until Nemesis or Pandora adds in support for creature/non-human animations, I'll have a reason to stick with FNIS. There's actually a way to make them work together though, so I can have custom animal and demon attack animations, while also using CGO.
@101Mant6 ай бұрын
"Attack" animations, is that's what they are called now? Anyway I thought Pandora supported creatures?
@rustyjones790825 күн бұрын
Nemesis has creature animations now as a patch. Won't work with SL but I'm going to assume that's not what you need it for.
@raughboy18823 күн бұрын
Dude! With this list you just saved me hell of a lot fps. I am currently downloadind skyrim and coming back to it but i am gonna play it and mod it on linux and it's gonna be hell of a ride.
@F1reFireBall5 ай бұрын
CGO is to this day, irreplaceable for first person gameplay, if you need the ability to shout/cast/swing while jumping/falling. Every other feature can(and should) be disabled. Skyrim is a first person action rpg, not a third person mall ninja sim. CGO even fixes the obnoxious vanilla game bug in which you can't shout if you press the shout button while staggered which locks you out of shouting for like 5-10 seconds.
@Rykerz_5 ай бұрын
What cgo stand for? I’m new to modding
@F1reFireBall5 ай бұрын
@@Rykerz_ combat gameplay overhaul
@munyori3 ай бұрын
most likely BFCO will soon replace it too
@games_mods3 ай бұрын
Its your game brow so speak for you not for all... And for me its a third person gameplay@@F1reFireBall
@nairocamilo2 ай бұрын
I don't know if you noticed, OP, but the game, as vanilla, lets you switch from 1st to 3rd (to 1st) person camera. As in, both. Of course, being Bethesda, they put half-assed focus on the 3rd person camera gameplay, which the community very fiercely crafted alternatives. Modding is for everyone. Don't gatekeep.
@luiztikeiАй бұрын
"Get rid of FNIS" Players that use that mod (( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)) : I don't think so...
@sirmustardofhousemayonnais99075 ай бұрын
as someone whos modded this game since 2011, please explain to me EXPERT, how FNIS is going to crash my game... in detail.
@Garugontheblue5 ай бұрын
He doesnt know shit
@sirmustardofhousemayonnais99075 ай бұрын
@@Garugontheblue none of these "modders" who've been here a whole 6 months, do
@Orshabaal4 ай бұрын
It's not that FNIS is gonna cause a lot of crashes, it's quite safe to use, but Nemesis is just better in almost every way, so anybody who is starting modding right now should be using that instead of FNIS.
@sirmustardofhousemayonnais99074 ай бұрын
@@Orshabaal it's factually not better than Nemesis in everyway, it's a garbage program that throws errors, gets blocked my antivirus and crashes constantly. The only reason we don't use fnis anymore is because the guy who made it stopped modding and didn't have open permissions. There's a reason Pandora is about to replace Nemesis, it's because it's trash
@no-bark41124 ай бұрын
bro is _really_ passionate and defensive over an outdated mod that he didn't make.. weirdo
@alexlamoureux20606 ай бұрын
First time modding and I got some difficulties with some mods because I was only looking for the most endorsed ones. Thanks to you, I now understand my mistake 😅. Automaticly subbed to your channel, I need more videos like these, keep up the great work! (If you could add time codes that would be really really helpfull aswell)
@Dabst3rPlays6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid Nariva! Also what's that climbing mod at 1:00?! I love having extra movement. The only other semi-climbing mod I've found was evg animated traversal where some ledges were climbable
@laerllik6 ай бұрын
SkyClimb
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Someone already said it, but yeah, it's SkyClimb
@mokl273 ай бұрын
Instead of Northern Roads you can use "Simplest Roads" which removes the cobblestones just like NR, just without the extra bits. But you can use another mod like Lux Via to spice up the roads!
@heavyweaponsguy62844 ай бұрын
9:54 Arthmoor now requires people to go to his own website similar to nexus mods where all of his mods get updates, he has since purged them from the nexus and is super salty and/or has a superiority complex.
@art2dwooky4695 ай бұрын
This was for real an awesome video I hope you're telling the truth when I decide to install these mods soon
@mohauntabanyane87136 ай бұрын
That MJ sneak advert you sneaked in about not doing drugs is hilarious 😂 😂 😂 😂
@JasonChen9276 ай бұрын
It's really useful. Glad to see that I've avoided almost all the questionable mods, on my own, except for Interest NPC & Northern Roads. They are causing no problems for me and really enhance my experience.
@Lazuryu6 ай бұрын
As someone who has gotten back into skyrim modding after many years, this is a great video to know which mods are still relevant to use. Thanks a lot!
@taxace1116 ай бұрын
All the ones he mentioned are still relrvant fix final products! This author is comparing his playstyle according to his top of the line pc and graphics in which the majority of players do not have.
@SilentProt6 ай бұрын
Nariva there is a lite version to capital whiterun and the mod author who made it made a lite version for capital windhelm and cotn falkreath, you should check them out
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
Cool! Thanks for letting me know! :D
@code2646 ай бұрын
Another thing you could have mentioned was "reshade Helper" mod which makes it so reshade doesn't effect ui. Including depth of field options.
@hammock3296 ай бұрын
Please stop calling me old
@tiarnano88786 ай бұрын
Carte OPUS spotted. Ralentissement de service deployed.
@EQOAnostalgia8 сағат бұрын
I'm stuck with FNIS in my current LO. I had no idea about Nemesis until about a month into modding lol. So yeah... now that i know better the next savegame will be improved. Nemesis and the mods that use it are A LOT better. Some of the movement anims you can get only from Nemesis are amazing and totally game changing but i'm stuck without them this go around. Sucks.
@peterlewis21786 ай бұрын
I don't know why in the world you would suggest Nemesis over FNIS. Nemesis is just as abandoned and unsupported as FNIS is, except that it was developed for a shorter amount of time and happened to be done more recently than FNIS. But FNIS integrates well with Vortex and can do creature animations, where Nemesis can't.
@cendolbang996 ай бұрын
FNIS does not support most of new animation mods while Nemesis support them out of the box without needing author work to be included in the patch list, the only reason people using FNIS are for beastiality mods lol
@ThickmoidYeast3 ай бұрын
I'm watching this knowing fully well that I'm installing Nolvus and will not be altering the modlist in any way out of fear of breaking the behemoths back. It seems like there are a lot of really good mods that have come out recently, and I wouldn't be surprised if Nolvus v6 were to use most of them
@Hullbreachdetected29 күн бұрын
I consider modpacks to be games that I need to customise for my own suit. You may break them, every modder has his "essential mods".
@azzamazman66736 ай бұрын
Hey, is Nemesis able to support animal skeleton or animation now? I really wanted the wing animation to fly, But I couldn't cuz they say Nemesis doesnt support animal skeleton or animation back then
@seblorkhan26185 ай бұрын
I use both fnis and nemsis. I use fnis for creature an wing animations and then let nemesis overwrite the people animations. Ive used the two together without issue for years.
@azzamazman66735 ай бұрын
@@seblorkhan2618 so even if I wanted to just use nemesis, I could generate the wings animation?
@mray33086 ай бұрын
When I was following you through the cursed mod list, I was like "check", "yeah totally", "I agree". Then you started mentioning all the NPC mods I added to my modified Vagabond modlist (4200+ mods) and I 'm now like "CTD it is". I play in VR and for me it's all about immersion. There is nothing to immerse in if nobody is around, if you know what I mean. I 've not only all the NPC mods you mentioned but also have "Immersive citizens" in my modlist. Check mate.
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
I still suggest you try them and see if they work for yourself! You might get lucky :)
@Tepcafna6 ай бұрын
Funny that using FNIS doesn't cause any crash whatsoever with 500+ other mods installed. So yeah...maybe your setup is the problem and not the mod.
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
It's good if you have a smooth experience, so you do you! Nemesis does have more functions tho for other mods
@quitegrim59016 ай бұрын
It doesn't crash, it just doesn't work with newer animation mods.
@killy3746 ай бұрын
🤓🤓🤓
@_Chantelle6 ай бұрын
Weather and adding as many people I can talk to will always be a priority. My pc can blow for all I care. LOL. Personally Interesting NPC's will always be apart of my game but I can understand leaving it out especially if you've played through it before. It's never been an issue for me but I try to keep my pc beefy. I may finally part ways with Frostfall. Sunhelm has been on my list of must tries. So far The Notice board works with Missivies etc quite well so far. I like it. Northern Roads is Godly. It's beautiful but I had a ton of issues with seams and the like and spent hours trying all the different solutions I could find. Went back to Blended Roads. I'll try it sometime on a lighter mod list. My current mod list is bursting at the seams. 🤪 Been working on it for over a year and haven't even played just tested while I wait for some quest mods to finish - looking at you Gelnmoril.
@lsswappedcessna3 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel ya, I'm done with budget computers and consoles. Been there done that. Now that I have the cash flow I'm gonna keep my current computer upgraded and eventually build a whole new one with as many top of the line parts as possible. Gonna shoot for upgrades every 5-6 years if necessary on my current one, until I can justify just dropping like 5-6k on my dream do-everything computer. Built my current PC in 2022 for around 2k, and so far it's not needed any major upgrades. Money well spent, I think. NPC mods and AI overhauls make the game feel far more alive and immersive. I don't know why in the hell Bethesda insists on sticking with a more than 20 year old game engine (NetImmerse became Gamebryo which was used as a basis for Creation Engine which became Creation 64-bit which became Creation Engine 2) that is held together with duct tape and prayers and is incapable of running more than 4 NPCs within twenty square miles without stuttering and crashing, but they do.
@kivviaburridoo6 ай бұрын
Dope vid dude! It will be of great help for my next playthrough :)
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@Cassanti2 ай бұрын
9:26 Thank god I'm not the only one. I went through hell and high water trying to figure out why there were holes in the world and figured out it was this mod. Did the LOOT fix only to replace it with blended roads anyway. Still love the clutter though, I use JustAndrew7's version (/mods/126175) which fixes a lot of landscape issues (again) in the other popular NR Clutter Only mod. NR is a good mod, the lack of patches is unfortunate though. Good video & good advice, wish I had seen this before diving into a 2 week long rabbit hole that is modding skyrim in current year. 550 mods later, at least it boots 🤷♂.
@Percivalis6 ай бұрын
The only one I won’t give up is interesting npcs
@averagebohemian57916 ай бұрын
Perfectly ok, its one of the most used mods and it has patches for almost everything. Never got any CTDs from them
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
If it works well and you don'thave incompatibility issues, keep it!
@heretohavefun56466 ай бұрын
@@NarivaTV if we don't know about the incompatibilities you should tell us about them since they are mods we've never had good enough to perfer
@Yagirljamie3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the recommended mods, Nariva TV! You've got a new subbie here. I've been looking for good mods to use without the hassle of dealing with crashes, so thank you so much for providing these alternative options. Can't wait to try them out!
@boypip70185 ай бұрын
First tip of the video : uninstall mods during a playthrough. Worst advice possible. Next step, choosing FNIS over Nemesis. Ok, even the best jokes have to end.
@noahboddie34825 ай бұрын
The second wasn't recommended abd you can uninstall mods midway through a save but some mods you shouldn't
@Chud_Bud22 күн бұрын
I swear, every single mod for this game has fifty prerequisite mods. It's gotten way out of hand.
@conandrake4446 ай бұрын
It appears that I am an OBIS and 3DNPC user ^^ But no issues to be honest, just a lot of patching ( like really).
@NarivaTV6 ай бұрын
If you can deal with the patching, more power to you! I also use some mods I don't recommend from this list lol
@laerllik6 ай бұрын
3DNPC is just too good for immersion to avoid it
@boriquataino69832 ай бұрын
Nemesis is out of date. Use pandora instead. Nemesis has an animation limit of 20000 animations. Any more than the that and it will fail to generate. Pandora doesn't have this limition. Currently running over 40k animations with 0 issue. Pandora also supports creatures is bsckwards compatible with nemesis
@7x6719 күн бұрын
Do you use every single animation mod available on nexus to achieve 40k? I installed LoreRim and it has like 6500 - 7000 animations loading in OAR. Can you share what kind of mods you use?
@billy65bob6 ай бұрын
Was expecting "mods you shouldn't use" with a nudge nudge and a wink wink that you should actually secretly go and use them. 😉 I love the idea 3DNPC is going for, but the style clash between it and skyrim is just too extreme, a game that is best likened to the comforting appeal of junk food. I find every time I use that mod, I end up inspecting every NPC via the console to ensure I don't speak to any of them by accident...
@lsswappedcessna3 ай бұрын
I wish Drelas could be a standalone character. Interesting NPCs Drelas seems like a pretty chill dude, but some of the voice acting of other characters is... low quality. Not that it's bad voice acting. It's bad microphones.
@domonicsdaniel44972 ай бұрын
I actually love your "hipocrysy", because even if a mod is unstable, not supported anymore, incompatible with other mods, etc. but is a good one for one reason or another (or you think can be fun for someone) and you use it, you tell us right away. "Hey, this isn't the best choice, however, I like it because it brings X, Y, Z into the game which I love", and not just bash it or strtaight-up say it's shit/not worth even trying/etc. Nice!
@theicyphoenix_77455 ай бұрын
me:so i use v1.5.97 of the game downgraded,so this video is litteraly useless lol
@MultiBana6 ай бұрын
GREAT video, this is the type of content the skyrim modding community is missing. Thank you
@zerocalvin6 ай бұрын
"nemesis has completely replace FNIS" hahaha... nice joke..
@RonJeremy5145 ай бұрын
Pandora* has completely replaced FNIS and Nemesis.
@zerocalvin5 ай бұрын
@@RonJeremy514 that is what i hope for, as the current alpha build, there are still plenty of FNIS mod pandora doesnt support... really cant wait for pandora to be complete, so we can ditch nemesis and fnis nonsense =D
@zinkohtun39776 ай бұрын
Finally, replacement mod for 'No Snow Under Roof'. It need a lot of patches. Thanks for the video, we need more videos like this, especially for FPS. I need some creature mods to replace Immersive Creatures.
@Andarus6 ай бұрын
FNIS has NOT been replaced. Nemesis can't handle Creature Behaviors and also its abandoned too! There is a Pandora that is in Alpha/Beta right now, which will replace both. But right now you still need FNIS if you want creature Behaviors. And SunHelm is complete trash compared to Frostfall, I tried it one playthrough and went straight back to Frostfall. And MCO is not a fucking replacement, unless you are a fucking weirdo that plays in 3rd Person. MCO does not do anything for First Person!
@SamDy996 ай бұрын
Thanks man. Time to open up Vortex. Lots of work to do today..
@VoxRatio4 ай бұрын
Ignore his bit on npc mods, especially interesting NPCs. He's full of it. I have had over 800 mods installed and that mod never gave me any issues.
@Limerick986 ай бұрын
"...probably at least 47 years old." In the words of Grandpa Simpson: "It'll happen to yooouuuu..."
@genxlibertarian96566 ай бұрын
This list is a God send, thank you. Only exception is Interesting NPCs. The super followers are good enough that ive based entire playthroughs on them.
@Cruor343 ай бұрын
The big one I had to get rid of was weapon armor clothing and clutter fixes, whatever its called. Every modlist I read recommended it, but it does WAY more than its original intent of just doing useful things like getting rid of hooded robes and instead making them 2 pieces. It makes a TON of edits, and just conflicts with everything. If you are getting naked NPCs or messed up looking armors or weird little bugs you just cant understand this mod might be the culprit, it was for me. I got rid of it, and then I simply made my own patch to make NPCS only use hoodless robes (just made some edits to the outfits tab in SSE Edit) and my game worked much better for it. Populated Towns and Villages LITE with an NPC overhaul by Modpocalypse is giving me ZERO issues, I have not had a single city crash, I visited all cities in a test game and I'm many hours into my current game. To me it really adds something to have a few extra npcs (even named "merchant" or "laborer") into the city. I don't stare at them, they are just in the back ground but it just makes cities not feel dead. I personally am not a fan of Interesting NPCs because personally, I think they are boring, annoying, and over acting but I have to say, I have never crashed because of it. Had it for many playthroughs no issues. Also, old mods aren't ALWAYS bad. Sometimes a mod is just done. I have published mods for Fallout NV and Fallout 4. They are like 5 years without an update but as Todd would say: "They just work" They don't need an update. One gives all the robots in NV proper armor (some had zero armor in the fully patched game) and makes them tougher overall. A big mod of mine makes all the enmies in Fallout 4 harder but cuts the health bloat. It's just NPC/weapon/armor edits, and those don't change. Mod doesn't need an update. Same with a hand placed enemies mod I made. It just hand placed more enemies down. Doesn't need an update.
@markmarietta41876 ай бұрын
I think It's good to see other available mods, and I did install a number of them. Started playing Skyrim in 2011, so some of my preferences are by now mostly habit.