Popular TikTok Singer Turns Out To Be A Creep

[@brianpilled]

whys it feel like every 5 minutes a ton of creators are outed creeps

[@Shyknit]

Predators like to go after career paths or places where they can have access to what they're interested in

[@krimsonblud]

it's just sad honestly.

[@Pink_pr1ncess]

@@Shyknit that would explain why so many of them are in charge of children and disabled people.

[@Shyknit]

@@Pink_pr1ncess yep people who work at schools, religious leaders, influencers etc have access to so many kids and predators know it

[@belladimanno]

innit. it’s wild

[@MosesSuppose]

Tbh I automatically side eye any grown-ass adult seeking validation from teens on TikTok, sorry not sorry.

[@Shyknit]

9:35 hearing an almost 60 year old say unfortunately we aren't besties anymore more about a 19/20 year old is weird af. I'm mid 20s and I have a hard time even relating to teens anymore much less thinking about wanting to be friends with or talk to them. You mean to tell me he couldn't find someone closer to his age or more of an adult to be "besties" with?

[@p.c1892]

Yep huge red flag

[@c0smokramer]

a grown man with a platform and influence turned out to be a bad person? what an unforeseen and unexpected development

[@gremily666]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 agreed

[@rickygermaineco]

yup. as well as those grown ass men who are obsessed with criticizing and making fun of teenage girls.

[@freddyfaerie3499]

It makes me so sad because I know she's gonna be "discredited" by douche bags because she admitted to kissing him back because she was alone and was scared because that's such a common feeling and it's almost met with the "why didn't you just say no" mentality

[@rickygermaineco]

that happens so often when weird guys dm girls and ppl just say ”why didn’t you block him if he made you uncomfortable?” as a 16yo i talked to this guy, just chatting about whatever, and all of a sudden he mentioned he was hard. i did tell him to stop, that it made me uncomfy, and he did. however during the period where we talked (literally one day, he stopped talking to me after i turned him down enough times) he did bring stuff like that up again. i remember asking myself why did i let it slide, was it because he was high and he apologized, he seemed sorry? idk. people push boundaries, and people let things slide.

[@TheAuDHDVegan]

Especially when it's just her with man that appears to be larger and probably stronger than her, saying "no" could have led to her being hurt and assaulted.

[@bell4898]

And so what if she liked it or didn’t? The fact of the matter is that this is a grown man hitting on 19 year old GIRLS. He’s old enough to be her grandpa.

[@pokelover02]

Yeah I hate that. People need to learn about fight-flight-fawn responses

[@gv4436]

people who use that fact to discredit victims are just self reporting. because in their eyes, they’re so desperate for any sort of affection or romantic connection that they’d literally do anything for a kiss, hug, whatever creepy goal they set and cant comprehend that a victim would go through with allowing someone to advance romantically on them out of fear. theyre scum

[@BBXcompany]

when people go after the clear victims- the younger person or minor who is groomed into the situation/relationship AND THEY CALL THEM A WHORE is just so disgusting

[@Summer_moods3]

SERIOUSLY ITS WEIRD THEY JUST CANT EXCEPT THIS PERSON (the groomer) ISN’T INNOCENT

[@Witchy_Hoo]

Exactly! The victim blaming that I’ve seen from some of the people accusing Olivia of being a whore when she had no intention of doing anything REMOTELY sexual or romantic in that livestream is beyond me.

[@Mrstark1407]

Colleen balenger fans. Attacked Adam when he was just 13

[@jmac356]

Fifty Fifty all over again bro...

[@thevilaemina]

Gen Z, PLEASE keep talking about problematic age gaps. I'm a millennial in my thirties recovering from complex trauma related to these kinds of relationships being not only normalized but ENCOURAGED when I was too young to know better. I love that y'all call this predation out because I finally feel like there are people willing to affirm my trauma. And these relationships are 100% traumatizing, even though the effects may not manifest for years after the grooming. Thanks for covering this 🙏

[@Nonyah123]

where are you from that it was encouraged for 19 and 56 year olds to date in the 2000s? o.o by 2011 that definitely wasn't standard, it would've been called out hard even on KZbin

[@thevilaemina]

@@Nonyah123 don't question my experience, k thx bye

[@Nonyah123]

@@thevilaemina I'm not, just confused gen z I didn't think things were that different a decade ago for it to be encouraged/maybe it's just from an area I'm not familiar with. I have no reason to disbelieve you. I'm currently dating much older I don't want to look back later with regrets either

[@J_Lynn]

@@Nonyah123 I'm a millennial. Old men dating women as young as they could possibly date was very highly encouraged and thought of as being a very positive thing in the 2000s. A sign of a successful man. Many men my age and older (and some younger, too) are still living with these ideas in their heads. Watch any reality TV shows from the time and you'll see how bad the casual misogyny really was.

[@Nonyah123]

@@J_Lynn ahh i see. I was thinking of it the other direction ie young girls encouraged to old men. Yeah, that's sadly very much still a thing even with young guys make jokes about once they hit 25 they're going to start trading down to younger girls like Leo etc. Sugar babying is very popular at my college and there are always tons of old men hanging around trying to date college girls. and going with the flow joking about its fine because we have daddy issues. So come to think of it it's still really prevalent and sadly it's still mostly women and young men calling it out. Older men are silent on it because they want to keep dating young as they can. I'm probably naive to think the other guys I'm seeing is different but at the same time I really enjoy him. Comments like ops make me worried I'm being groomed and don't even know it and I'll feel it years from now but right now I see no red flags aside from him being ok with dating me which I guess theoretically should be a red flag.

[@davaquail430]

I think we need to stop calling things like this “drama” this is predatory behavior playing out live in front of us. Not drama. It’s disgusting

[@theKaraProject]

Reminds me of Swoop’s phrase, “It’s not drama, it’s dangerous.”

[@brookejon3695]

Classic double homicide drama

[@brookejon3695]

Classic double homicide drama

[@MYLAR.]

The whole time I thought “this isn’t drama, this is criminal.” I know drama is a quick word to get out when it comes to online things, but I wish nick would focus less on the dramatics of it all?

[@danielladuck3323]

@@theKaraProjecthello fellow student of Petty University

[@mulandulan]

Just because someone is old doesn't automatically makes them wholesome. We should know this by now

[@aidanspencer2721]

It usually correlates with the opposite

[@meowJACK]

​@@aidanspencer2721oh shit bro then what's gonna happen to you when you get old

[@kat5418]

⁠​⁠@@aidanspencer2721fr like what is up with old people, why they gotta be like this 😭

[@yasminxx9329]

No cause because of multiple incidences I feel more creeped out by elderly men

[@sarahbarabe4990]

Elderly men can really be the WORST. I work at a retirement home and some of them be crazy.

[@saoirseh3770]

His poor daughter, I can’t even imagine what she’s feeling and going through. This is so so gross and so so sad.

[@Queotracosamariposa]

I know :( I wouldn't talk to him ever again.

[@abigailmills2603]

ikr!! imagine finding out ur dad flew out to meet a girl basically ur age and he pursued her. i bet u, if olivia had been into it, things would have progressed for sure. what a huge creep, i couldn’t imagine him being my father. i hope the daughter gets some good therapy cause wow

[@Chiefkeefer78]

@@abigailmills2603she is younger than his daughter, it’s so disgusting imagine what he’s thought ABOUT his own daughter

[@berthacrow]

i feel sick thinking about that

[@KaitlynPawl]

in these situations i think the daughters are aware and typically try to lie to themselves about it. at least in my experience. im sure her dad has caused her immense sexual trauma already and this was just the icing on the cake

[@Maplesyrup217]

At 21 I was molested by my 50 year old driving instructor. At courtI had to explain why I kept on driving and didnt defend myself. I was even accused of having an affair with this disguisting old man by police officers. People don't understand that some women in those situations will try to survive because we can't defend ourselves. I'm so sad for Olivia because I know some idiots out there will accuse her of consenting or wanting this somehow. She's such a brave girl for this and I hope she doesn't stop singing.

[@thehalfmoonmirrorsvenus1234]

I'm so sorry you went through this... They literally train cops to take that tact. This is such a deeply embedded societal issue.

[@hobog12777]

I'm very sorry. In my country driving instructors are generally known as fucking creeps. I wasn't molested but my instructor tried flirting with me all the time and commented on random girls' bodies as we passed them. Right after passing my exam, he pretended to "remove lint" off my boob, pretty much. It made me feel so uncomfortable knowing that he'd probably been wanting to do something like that for a long time, but only dared do it once he was sure he'd never see me again.

[@chloebalster4828]

I saw an article where they said that it's a survival mechanism to freeze and/or not defend yourself. It said many people had that reaction in a traumatic situation and were confused why they reacted that way. I hope you know that you're not alone and you didn't do anything wrong by not fighting back.

[@kat.hearted]

I’m sorry that happened to you, that’s absolutely gross

[@ACECAL-cl4tb]

😂

[@brennagera9029]

Dude I really hope his daughter is safe from him. Even if Olivia is the only victim it's absolutely horrifying, but the fact she said a family member is trying to get him therapy cuz it's happened before!?

[@dylanraeann6470]

This was my first thought as well. My father was my abuser and I’ve seen him act in very similar ways to this man.

[@cremepuffle]

Olivia isnt the only victim. Men like this have many.

[@kelsey5093]

I believe Olivia 110% and I’m proud of her for speaking out against someone with such a huge following

[@avasava7720]

I got such an ick when she said that he set her as her WALLPAPER ON HIS PHONE AND PEED WITH THE DOOR OPEN OR WHATEVER. NO

[@cubonefan3]

Honestly Olivia may have liked him, his money, or his following a little bit. She made contact and shared details about herself when he was talking about giving away free Taylor Swift tickets. He could have been using those tickets as “bait” to get her to share her phone and address with him. Olivia may have liked the idea of getting a sugar daddy, until being in the hotel and him making advances made her realize how creepy the situation was. After realizing his money didn’t make the creepiness worth it, she pulled out of the “relationship”. Free money and status is alluring to many young women, and sometimes it takes one bad experience to realize that this isn’t what they want for their lives.

[@HenyaStudent]

@@cubonefan3 not really your bussiness to judge, and also that would still count as grooming her. Using fame or money or age to make someone feel good or special is a part of grooming it's what makes the victim FEEL like they might like them

[@Noooiiiissseee]

​​@@cubonefan3Or she's just young and naive and didn't automatically assume that an almost 60 year old man was going to try to fuck her? She's a teenager. And he's almost 60. Who do you think is doing the manipulating here? She clearly thought it would just be a good way of getting to sing to a larger audience. Nothing wrong with that. Why would you hear what she said and assume she wanted a sugar daddy? You're basically just victim blaming and it's extremely weird.

[@Noooiiiissseee]

​@@HenyaStudent Based Henya enjoyer

[@dark_gwenn]

I’ve already seen people try to discredit her because she’s 19. Apparently only people under the age of 18 can be groomed. A lot people don’t realize that there are a lot of different types grooming.

[@HenyaStudent]

This ^

[@bell4898]

I’ve noticed that the people trying to discredit her are most likely also around that age and think they’re all “grown”. It isn’t until they actually become grown that they realize 19 year olds are basically children still.

[@keys.and.knives]

@@bell4898 It makes me so mad that people think the moment you turn 18 you're an adult. Sure, legally you are, but that doesn't mean that your maturity level magically changes along with your 18th birthday.

[@bunkertons]

There is no age cut off for grooming.

[@kaywee4200]

19 is still a teen 💔

[@MountainDont]

I'm a young millennial and I love that y'all take problematic age gaps so seriously. There's no cutoff age for grooming; turning eighteen doesn't automatically mean that you aren't vulnerable. Young people - even those past the age of consent - absolutely need to be protected from predators.

[@bagandbroad]

I’m an ancient millennial, and completely agree. I remember feeling sick whenever a friend would talk about their much older boyfriend. It’s always been wrong, young people just got gaslit into thinking they were mature and special instead of the older person being a straight up predator

[@lemonmeat]

im genz and im so tired of people thinking grooming can only be an adult grooming a minor. minors can groom other minors, adults can groom adults, etc. its so harmful and invalidating bc me and my partner were literally groomed by someone around the same age as us into an abusive relationship with them, and the many other people who have things like this happen to them.

[@SweetNothing937]

@@felinemoonchildyuh

[@allisonb8912]

I'm a smack-in-the-middle-millennial, and age gaps are gross and need to be taken extremely seriously. I remember in high school thinking girls with college aged boyfriends were so cool, and now I look back and think what kind of creepy 22 year old goes to freaking junior prom. We need to teach young girls that an older guy giving them attention is not a sign of their maturity, it's a sign of the guy being a predator.

[@Sheena000]

I find this comment comforting because I’ve seen millennials call gen Z puritans/puriteens because of us speaking out against stuff like this. I think the reason why there’s that contrast is because millennials haven’t had the experience of being constant prey to adults from the moment they’re online. We’re tired of being hunted by grown people who try to take advantage of our acceptance and inclusivity to get us to engage with them. Edit: *I’m referring to gen X. I messed up the years. Shoutout millennials :) you guys are still cool dw my disappointment was misdirected.

[@lalalaylahh]

I feel like he lied about having an extra Taylor swift ticket knowing he’d get young females messaging him and once they did, used the daughter as his excuse to not take them, but felt he can now message them.

[@nosyDetective]

I can't believe SHE got attacked and called a whore for (as far as the viewers knew at the time) dating a 56 years old! If anything, she's a victim.

[@ACECAL-cl4tb]

😂

[@minhothehoexx6011]

It’s so weird to think of all this cause when I was 19 my dad was 54 and like that’s so disgusting to think about a man that age being attracted to someone who is basically a new adult. I feel so bad for her

[@alessandrajackson3768]

Same here!!!! They have the same age gap and me and my father (who had me later in life)

[@lemonmeat]

bro im 16 and my dad is around 54 rn hell nahhhh

[@allisonb8912]

When I was 19 my dad was 54 too! Eughh this poor girl.

[@rizgriz3956]

I'm 19 and my dad's 60 so I can't imagine how she must have felt 🤢🫣

[@alishac5096]

It’s so gross, I’m just glad that it’s openly discussed so young people can understand what problematic behavior looks like. ❤

[@librarymeg57]

She’s being too nice to him imo. Take him down girlie!!! I support her 1000% and I hope she’s able to seek therapy.

[@madiclark5218]

I tried

[@rogue_carlisle6167]

yes really. i really hate this

[@Anna13Tonks]

If she was more aggressive, she'd probably get death threats by all the incels or something, if she doesn't already

[@rogue_carlisle6167]

@@Anna13Tonks 😭

[@alicenthightower9161]

​@@Anna13Tonksshe'd get called a feminist, a liberal, aggressive, 'typical western FEMALE', rape threats, death threats, stalkers... the list goes on 🤢

[@amalia7903]

if you check his following it’s literally a bunch of young girls.. this is so disgusting

[@lunacouer]

I don't know who he is, but I get the feeling people felt like he was an internet-dad, which he seems to have fed into and fostered. There's a helluva lot of young girls looking for that, which is a helluva lot of vulnerable kids.

[@ouci]

@@lunacouerthat's exactly what happened IMO. his fanbase was mostly teen girls and young women who memed him. of course they wouldn't be okay with this

[@ofpine]

bro yes thats why i stopped following him and i noticed one of his girlfriends looked very young. so creepy

[@marym6733]

He followed me back last year and I now see why

[@localcatfan]

He follows me on TikTok. I am 18 😬😬

[@polaroiidss8945]

worst part is that she’s literally younger than HIS OWN DAUGHTER. disgusting. i’m so sorry to his daughter and olivia

[@14ElmStreet28]

that doesn't really mean anything

[@GeorgeGlass298]

Every single women on earth has come across a Rodger and knows she is 100% telling the truth.

[@Kenosaurus]

I remember being 16 and accepting a date with a 26 year old. I didnt think anything wrong about it but when i went i realized this is a terrible idea. I didnt see them again cause after the date i felt very creeped out and grossed out by my own actions. I didnt tell my parents or anyone cause i did feel ashamed so huge huge props to this girl for coming out with this. She shouldnt feel ashamed because it happens and she was taken advantage of and hes a creep.

[@Kenosaurus]

I hope she heals from this and knows she's very brave.

[@ratgurl1]

i’m glad you were able to get out of that situation. the onus was entirely on the disgusting adult trying to date a child - even if you had been the one to pursue them, much less them pursuing you. thanks for sharing and i hope you’ve got plenty of APPROPRIATELY AGED suitors ❤

[@helenarichard]

When i was a teen i only dated older men because my peers terrified me (stupid). And I can attest that most of them were users and abusers. There is almost never a good reason as to why a 30-40-50 year old man would be solely attracted to a teen girl. Usually they are covert paedos. I have seen men I chatted with that gave me paedo vibes, on the news for being sentenced to prison for rape, statutory rape and sexual abuse of minors.

[@Nattapong69]

I hope she heals from going on a date, and giving someone a kiss. Life is so hard for 1st world SJW girls ;(. Don't forget to take your prozac today after you finish playing the worlds smallest violin

[@tutulalababa4013]

​@@Nattapong69dude u sound miserable

[@ladevotee2588]

i knew something wasnt right when people would ask how old she is and he'd respond with "old enough" 🙄

[@TatertotsTV]

I don't trust people who say well their "adult" meanwhile the adult is only 18-22

[@csokissuti7343]

Bro,idk why but I always get oldass people who hit on me (I'm 20) and they are all were 40+ it's so weird,like they should know better..😭

[@MrAilsaAng]

?!?!?!

[@ndawn90]

​@@csokissuti7343It's because there's a certain type of person who likes to be able to control and manipulate their partner, and dating someone in the 18-22 age makes it a lot easier for them.

[@1ifewliz]

old enough is giving cradle robber 😟

[@the-frozen-reaper821]

I went to Olivia’s page to drop a supportive comment and was appalled by how many people are victim blaming her. It’s sad and disgusting, especially with how much emphasis she’s putting on not going after Roger’s loved ones. I hope that she’s able to get through this.

[@preternatural3231]

dropping a supportive comment is a great idea ! just did it, and im so glad there were many more

[@downheartted]

nooo i was worried she would be getting hate :( i dont have tiktok but i hope ppl are giving her a ton of support!!!! she is very brave

[@TheDeliciousCaek]

Yeah there's a couple people in the comments here saying she "isn't innocent" as if she wasn't being obsessed over by a creepy older man. Like yes, she left a comment, but like a lot of young people do when they have a thought that they could win an amazing giveaway such as Taylor swift concert tickets (that some people paid upwards of thousands to get). She's literally just out of high school, I remember when I was that age I barely understood how the world worked. I'd probably get conned by some creep loser with millions of followers if I had the chance back then.

[@JwanDeFleur]

I remember seeing a post that said “would you date an 18 y/o?” (he was 28 for reference) the entire comment section was filled with atrocious, and disgusting beings, arguing it’s “legal” “she consented” , and the disgusting 28y/o being agreed.

[@juusolatva]

meeting in a hotel room instead of a public space is such a bad idea to begin with, but casually mentioning you've had a vasectomy, so you could try to pressure the 19-year-old to have sex with you without a condom, is so much worse. I guess the non-consensual back rubbing and the forced kiss were enough for him this time and of course he acts like a fucking baby, when she doesn't want anything to do with him after he acted like a total creep.

[@sxhizornsmn]

I don’t want to victim blame AT ALL in this story btw, I just want to say that pleaseee don’t go and meet random old men you met on the internet, and ESPECIALLY never agree to go to a hotel room with them! I’m so so glad she’s alive honestly, the poor girl. I hope she’s got a good support system behind her to help her get through this all :( x

[@marcmellow5573]

I'm 31, and 19 year old me did not know any better. I was groomed into being with a 36 year old at 19. That's why older people have to protect younger people. Cuz no one was there to tell me how to make safer choices, or how to tell when people don't have good intentions. It's obvious to me now, at 31, but it wasn't then.

[@truecrimefan1433]

​@@marcmellow5573same unfortunately but I was 14 😢 I thought I was so old an now I have a kid a year older than I was and I realized I was just a baby😢

[@sxhizornsmn]

@@marcmellow5573 I feel for your generation so so much in regards to online safety (and that sounds so condescending but I promise I’m not trying to be hahahaha). I can’t even imagine being born into a generation of first-gen internet creeps minus all of the cyber-security laws that have only come out in recent years :(

[@sxhizornsmn]

@@truecrimefan1433 I’m so so sorry, that is so horrible. 14?! :( I’m really glad that you still were able to garner the mental capacity to have an entire baby after all you’ve been through. simply from your comment alone, you still seem like an extremely lovely and caring mum. if you don’t mind me asking, what helped you to get through it all?

[@littlebodybigheart888]

THISSSS

[@brittanylevinson741]

Had this happen to me in the late 90’s. I was 17. Same behavior. This girl is brave as hell. This is my first time even mentioning it, I’ve always felt so guilty and embarrassed by the entire ordeal.

[@darcie1715]

So sorry

[@fullsundotgov]

whoever that was should’ve known better than to talk to a minor inappropriately. it’s nothing to feel guilty about and i hope you find peace w that💗

[@Emu19]

Love you babes. It's not your fault, and there is absolutely nothing you did to cause it to happen. You were targeted. The only one to blame is the person who hurt you. You are so fucking strong and beautiful. You deserve to love and be loved, you really do. If you harbour any feelings of regret or anger towards yourself, I sincerely hope you can forgive yourself eventually, because that is just an extra weight to carry around that is not yours to bear. And I hope you are doing so, so much better now, because you deserve happiness. You have a place in this world. You are valued. Sending you so much love! I sincerely hope you live a fulfilling, amazing life ❤️❤️

[@missbelle13222]

I hope you have someone you can talk to 💚

[@CocoabeanColette]

It was not your fault, and you deserved better treatment from everyone around you.

[@froobzz]

When she hesitates on explaining why she kissed him back, it ripped my heart apart. Poor poor girl. I really hope she's ok.

[@mayanovak2497]

The fact that she prefaced her response TikTok with saying that she didn’t want to harm the old man or his career is so sad. She was put into such an uncomfortable and inappropriate situation and still wants to protect him. It shows how naive and innocent 19 year olds really can be and preying upon that innocence is so grimy

[@kaylynvandermerwe]

bad people really like to confuse morality with legality... like being gay was once a crime, interracial marriage was a crime, but neither was morally wrong (obviously), as in reverse, is it illegal for a 56 year old to date a 19 year old? no, it's not illegal but it's not moral because that person can very easily be manipulated by a person with more life experience so it doesn't matter if it's legal or not, it's wrong regardless

[@DarkEntries]

He's saying she's 21 because he ABSOLUTELY bought her alcohol or, at least, gave her alcohol.

[@rickygermaineco]

idk what time what came out but her being 21 would’ve also been convenient since 3 years ago she would’ve been 18, ”old enough” as he would say, and not 16.

[@adara5294]

I agree, and he probably also thought that when he gets exposed, it wouldnt seem that much of an aging up

[@madi7001]

oh my god this is such a good point. I didn’t think about it from this perspective but you’re absolutely right

[@vhs3760]

Poor kid. She was incredibly brave to go through this and share her story, even though he has a much bigger following. Massive respect.

[@ACECAL-cl4tb]

Not a kid but an adult

[@Earthsage]

This is genuinely not shocking. We have no idea who these social media folks are. And we think we do because social media has tricked us into believing they are good people. Everyone is messed up I keep it pushing in the world. Glad to say I knew about him but never really supported or even payed that much attention to. The situation is absolutely disgusting but again, not surprised

[@Shyknit]

Never heard of this dude but this is why I'm not really a fan of any creators or celebrities/musicians I just watch their content or listen to their music but I don't go further than that especially with influencers. It's happened way too many times where they've turned out to be predatory.

[@sarahfranco6802]

@@Shyknit "It's happened way too many times where they've turned out to be predatory." fr

[@nanathegoat5106]

More like social media has tricked us into thinking we know ppls personal life.

[@Shyknit]

@@nanathegoat5106 I think you're both right, them saying it's made people think they know someone is a good person is because most people are only showing the highlights and parts of their lives where they're at their best and happiest and because they post all the time and a lot of personal moments people think they know them like you said.

[@nanathegoat5106]

@@Shyknit I agree with him 100%. It has tricked us into thinking the good, fun part is what it always is.

[@solarsatori]

call out the age gaps gen z! i was groomed from13-17 by a local musician and immediately after i turned 18 we started dating. It was all consensual but it took me years to realize that he groomed me and youre not supposed to be afraid of your partner like I was which caused me to stay with him.

[@purple12792]

the way he actually called her a ‘little girl’ after his sexual behaviour towards her… sicko

[@keisha_james]

What Olivia describes would be creepy af even if it was someone his own age, like all of that unwanted touch etc. is straight up harassment, but of course the fact she's a barely just legal TEENAGER just makes it all worse 🤢

[@b00psn00t]

This is not drama this is assault and grooming

[@joearnold6881]

If he’d just said “we were just singing” he’d have been better off. Creating an elaborate lie about her being someone who was like held back three or four times and graduated high school extremely late… that just kills any thoughts of it being “kinda bad idea but ultimately innocent” Edit: aw fuck it gets worse of course it got worse

[@julesscorner222]

what i think is hilarious is how on his cover of vampire, he hearted a comment that was telling him to sing taylor swift's "dear john" which is LITERALLY ABOUT how he emotionally abused her when she was 19 years old and he was in his thirtees.

[@Nonyah123]

Urgh. This reminds me of when I was 19 the summer after high school. I worked the pvernight shift at Walmart and this 45 year old man would constantly come over to check on me, ask about my music tastes etc. He seemed nice enough and I didnt get along with the people there my age, I was shy and constabtly awkward. Eventually he started offering me rides home after work, would text me playlist ideas, bought me mcdonalds. I couldnt even fathom someone that old thinking of me that way, I innocently thought he saw me as a daughter figure. Until I wake up one morning to a picture of his you kniw what. He tried to play it off as an accident. I'll never forget the sick feeling I felt in my stomach and quit the job 2 days later. 19 is a one year old adult. Its hard enough figuring out the world wirhout predators breathing down your neck.

[@caryn7154]

NO WAY- I loved this guy so much 😭😭 obviously he’s a creep and i’ve unfollowed him now….😬

[@_bambi.ambie_1936]

I LITERALLY FOLLOW HIM ON INSTAGRAM I LOVED HIM 😭😭

[@chxrry_384]

me too i used to pride myself for finding him before his big break and having him like my comments

[@chxrry_384]

me too i used to pride myself for finding him before his big break and having him like my comments

[@rinnie_the_pooh]

he followed me on tiktok and would like my videos and now i feel sick

[@dweeb4]

@@rinnie_the_poohoh geez…

[@Cleeooor]

a 50yr old calling a 19yr old hes trying to pursue a predator is wild

[@brooklynhomma]

It’s so sad that this is the new norm. I don’t understand what's wrong with people anymore 😞 Edit: I wanted to clarify that people being groomers and pedophiles isn’t a new thing. I just meant that it seems like every new famous person is a creep. Famous people being creeps isn’t new. However, it’s not even surprising anymore because this has become the new reality of seemingly every new person who blows up. The internet has been able to give these people more power, but it also raises the chances of said people getting exposed, WHICH IS A GOOD THING!!

[@iamhereblossom1588]

This has always been the norm for creeps of the world . The internet just makes it easier for them.

[@TootieVirus]

I would love to hear about the time when it wasn’t like this, but unfortunately older men have always been sniffing around girls they have no business being with.

[@brooklynhomma]

That’s actually really true. I’m just happy that what they’re doing can be documented now on the internet so more people can be aware

[@kalistaredden6453]

this is literally caused by years of misogyny bestie child marriage stlll happens in the us

[@Duckduckobtusegoose]

There has been aarge amount of creeps for awhile, it was incredibly normalized for s long time for older men to sexualize teen girls and kids. Comment ok and think about their bodies. The thing is we are no longer tolerating or accepting it. Most women have been cat-called, been inappropriately to inches in public, had a guy try and push boundaries or did cross them, etc. We are just finally calling out the behaviour in a loud way. We aren’t afraid to “tarnish our family name” to save a creep

[@akarc0404]

The age gap between her and Rodger is almost the same as the age gap between me and my dad. Like, legitimately almost the same ages. Rodger is just a little bit older than my dad, but it's still just, horrific

[@jamesnylan]

He was gone from TikTok for a while, and now his account is not only back, but he's verified. Noticed this about a week or so ago.

[@relaxedwaifu8497]

"why can't the drama be fun anymore, it's all sad and awful" 😢 felt that Nick, felt.

[@duckymdear]

This really doesn’t surprise me at all. I think we as a collective need to come to understand that the positive experiences we have with people over the internet aren’t necessarily reflective of who they are.

[@skatebush]

This is so disgusting. I’m so proud of Olivia for speaking up and outing this creep. May she be blessed and he live an awful, miserable life.

[@supdawg5800]

he followed me when i was 17 and he had 200k and i had my age in my bio too this guys a creep i still have the screenshot of him following me back. he’s been a creep for years.

[@c12486]

Even for 19 she is so young. Believing that some weird older guy with a tiktok account is some great opportunity for her career… he took advantage of her naïveté at every turn. I feel so bad for her

[@starchiiyt1247]

Insane. Sick of people on the internet being creepy

[@iamhereblossom1588]

People of the world are creepy hence there's creeps on the internet.

[@abbyz13]

it’s men. men are creepy. the internet just casts a brighter light upon them in their freak glory

[@_bambi.ambie_1936]

This whole year its been one after another! Its so sad it honestly is crazy

[@cremepuffle]

People? Im sorry the only people im seeing being creepy in scary amounts is men…

[@starchiiyt1247]

@@cremepuffle I wasn’t saying it was equal across genders or that it was one or the other. Just overall this year many people have been outed as creeps.

[@jloomis7]

I have a friend (I'm 35, she's 37) that still looks great for her age and she has an OF. I was horrified when she told me that former teachers and coaches from high school and middle school are her biggest followers.

[@Tina-fj4xo]

wow that is sick and twisted...

[@johnilyemson]

A few of my teachers ended up married to my classmates 🤮

[@amberrhea5293]

....she's 37

[@cremepuffle]

Shes 37 and literally selling her ass online….she is more than fine. Play stupid games win stupid prizes

[@qwertyuoqwertyuo6508]

@@johnilyemsongosh that’s just disgusting

[@pins_and_beetles]

As a 19 year old with a 56 year old father this weirds me out INFINITELY

[@CharlieSimmer27]

i'm a proud member of the "blocked by rodger cleye" club

[@teeheetummytums5609]

I cant wait to see his cover of toxic gossip train

[@annadolan4821]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that one of his family members reached out to her apologizing and saying they’ve been trying to get him help.

[@whatislife3603]

Like how many times has he done something like this🧐

[@brumhelldah917]

What if he’s a s offender

[@annadolan4821]

@@brumhelldah917 my first thought exactly

[@mickhailoily3678]

Ive noticed that. It feels that its happend before maybe even often with that knowledge.

[@missdenisebee]

Older men have been dating 18yr olds FOREVER…I mean, look at how Hollywood promotes this age gap s**t in their movies. I’m glad Gen Z seems to be rebelling against this narrative now. I’m an older millennial, so I’ve seen this normalized my whole life…I’ve always thought it was creepy, even moreso now, at 41. Good on y’all for calling this out as not normal, not cute, and no longer socially acceptable.

[@AsuraTheBass]

Yeah honestly it's fuckin weird, shit when I was 22 or 23 I felt weird if an 18 or 19 year old hit on me. Literally have become an entirely different person in every way since I was 18 myself, been through life and experienced pain in just 8 years now, to the point where looking even 3 years ago I feel like looking at a child or teenager. How the hell can anyone look at this situation and think she was old enough to truly understand the intricacies and depth of it all? Victim blaming to the max and its disgusting. People that say 18 or 19 year Olds are already adults, or know what theyre doing and can make those decisions are just fucking wrong. It makes me so happy the new generation is finally realizing how fuckin weird it truly is dating someone so much younger.

[@ma_kenz]

“You cannot do this at the Texas Roadhouse” - words to live by lmao

[@thelostremainunfound]

It was hard for me to conceptualize how big that maturity gap is until I realized she is the same age as one of my younger brothers. My family has joked I popped out as an old man when I was born so comparing where I am at 21 to a seemingly not as mature 56 year old wasn’t quite hitting me until thinking about the way my brother interacts with the world. I could see him getting wrapped up in a situation like this, though thankfully he has a boyfriend his own age so I don’t have to worry about it in this moment. My heart goes out to her. I hope people realize that she’s not to blame for his behavior and she couldn’t have known better

[@apathybronson]

I don't even expect his career to be over with how fragmented the algorithm makes tiktok

[@marianemarangao2840]

It's so scary... This girl is so young, she for sure didn't think it would be such a big deal to meet up with him, since he seemed "nice" enough. I hope she gets all the love and help she needs to get through this.

[@rickygermaineco]

this is fucking insane. i wish the best for olivia. it’s horrible how he’s trying to make her feel like she’s the bad person here.

[@ThePotatoad]

I'm 35 and almost started dating a 25 year old. When I found out how young he was I was like "NOPE!" If I was old enough to hold you when you were born, it's a no-go.

[@meganvincent5381]

If his family has been struggling to get him help it doesn't surprise me that it isn't working. You cant fix a predatory man unless they genuinely wanna change and not be a manipulative creep

[@aliciagreen5411]

That poor kid doesn't deserve any of this. And yes I mean she's 19 and a kid. That's not an insult. Young people are vulnerable.

[@keriatatro9747]

as soon as i saw the name i was like noooo 😭 i used to watch that guy all the time it’s so unfortunate he’s not the guy he pretends to be. also so proud of olivia to tell the entire story and so brave as well, i can’t imagine having to be in that hotel room 😭😭 poor girl

[@tylerf.145]

this is so fucked up. my sister just turned 20 and my dad just turned 58 so it's nearly the same age gap as them 🤢 i dont blame olivia at all and i believe her 100%

[@Kimmehface]

Young women out there, please please PLEASE be careful! Creepers are everywhere and you need to protect yourself because they will try to take advantage. I’m so sorry to his victims :( it’s so disheartening to keep hearing these stories of people abusing their influence and creeping on young ppl

[@tayabush3378]

what’s so ironic abt his singing vampire as some kind of diss is that olivia was talking abt a situation just like this one. she literally says in the song “cause girl your age know better”… so funny

[@goose_suit666]

"Wrap it up Robert Frost you gotta go." Publicly outing someone is so difficult. Wishing her nothing but peace, support and healing going forward.

[@lucyservo6574]

His story changed so much. Disgusting. Hopefully publicly calling out and deleting his tiktok (income source) is enough punishment to make him stop pursuing very young women

[@Duckduckobtusegoose]

Anyone older adult who makes child/teenage-geared content that isn’t education will ALWAYS rub me the wrong way. Why is a 58yr old making a TikTok about getting ready for school? He hasn’t had to get up at 7am for school in like 4 decades, that’s fucking weird

[@TatertotsTV]

He just makes the singing part but pov stuff he didn't make

[@residentbogwitch]

13:27 Ok but the fact that he liked the comment asking him to sing dear John by Taylor Swift 💀💀💀 It literally has the line „don’t you think 19 is too young to be messed with?“ That went right over his head

[@RBondZ007]

Am I the only one genuinely like horrified and so worried for this girl’s safety???

[@vanneproject]

My heart goes out to Olivia, poor girl.

[@snowcity1735]

He’s gonna come out with a cover of toxic gossip train💀

[@Seypenni]

Until the comment about the Vasectomy, I honestly thought this was a lonely man who genuinely wanted to sing with Olivia. Obviously from that point on it got progressively worse. It's hard to remember that older people were younger once, and may still view themselves in that fashion.

[@hollandoats5376]

this poor girl jfc, she gets groomed and manipulated by some man nearly 40 yrs older than her and now she has to spend her time and energy trying to pull together screenshots and other proof to defend herself from his slander. people don't understand how fucking terrifying it is being a woman in a situation like this, especially being so young, where you KNOW you fucked up and KNOW you are going to be criticized but it's way too far to back out for fear of what you know he's capable of, physically or otherwise. fuck this guy, she deserves so much more than this

[@WhoWhatWhen1245]

he's an old man on tik tok, I am literally not surprised whatsoever

[@jougjimmadome]

i really appreciate that you addressed how his behavior could so easily escalate if he's already ready to fly across state lines

[@ciaragoering]

in his own words - she is a "little girl" - he did all of that to a "LITTLE GIRL"

[@Nonyah123]

only thing stopping those types of men from going for younger is the law

[@PurveyorOfTrash]

In my state, they kick out anyone who stays back two years in high school, so I wasn't even 18 before I got kicked out, idk how he can claim she graduated at 20? Also, whenever an older individual claims someone barely even 20 is beautiful, or even worse, that they would def date them if they (the older person) were younger always makes me sick, like the amount of grown men that said that to me when I was underage is 🤢

[@graceclover8697]

at any age people can get groomed. all it takes is a power imbalance which can easily lead the victim to be more easily manipulated and vulnerable, doesn’t matter the age. plus not everyone knows the signs of grooming so it could totally go over their head and make it worse

[@imdoneplus]

The problem here is that she was naive (no shade, I am too) and she didn’t sexualize him so she assumed that he was being nice in good faith, instead of being a creepy weirdo. Sadly, this did is a narcissist and comes from an era where the slightest female kindness is seen as an invitation to pester them into sex. It’s gross, it’s obnoxious, but even worse it’s typical. Thankfully younger people just aren’t going to put up with his Boomer pressure dynamic.

[@vinylpharm]

I mean, she’s a teenager-teenagers are naive. That’s why it’s important to keep them safe.

[@envybanjo]

NOO is it really that hard for people to not be creeps?..

[@Aggressive_Progressive]

I genuinely knew a guy that finally graduated high-school at 21, we had the same math class when I was a junior. First time I'd ever heard the term "Super Senior". I also ended up a super senior due to illness, because I was getting sinus infections constantly and always being sent home sick. Being older when you graduate really isn't that uncommon, they just have certain hidden classrooms and even schools for those of us who end up that way.

[@Hal-p5y]

Seems like she wasn’t 21?

[@mckennasvetlana4368]

Bro... I remember scrolling past that live he did about the Swift concert and thinking wtf who is this dude? Why is he asking a bunch of probably younger people to go to a concert with him?! I also thought something bad would happen. And here we are.

[@35noodles]

Why the hell, when you find out that an old ass man could potentially have been grooming a minor/really young adult, why would you go to that young adult and call them a whore? Wtf is wrong with some people? Were their brains replaced with wet socks or why on earth would you think that’s an appropriate reaction o-O

[@susukenma12]

when I first became aware of the situation, I first thought “okay well he could be her grandfather since she is 19 years old”, but then he started deflecting and giving excuses and that’s when I was like “oh OK this guy is a total creep”. wholeheartedly side with Olivia in this situation.

[@helenarichard]

What part of "he could be her grandfather" was wholesome?

[@brumhelldah917]

@@helenarichardbecause at the very beginning you could assume they were family and the viewers were unaware but later on he started showing the telltale signs of a sex offender PLUS the family got into contact with Olivia explaining they tried to get him “help” before so we KNOW he did this before and the result was worse

[@angelmarie1112]

Ugh, my heart breaks for her. She was vulnerable, and he took advantage of that.

[@bigoof234]

when nick said “olivia made a post about the whole entire thing” i thought he meant olivia rodrigo for some reason. I was like FOR WHAT

[@gothgirlglittercrust7118]

"don't use my song for this pedo shit, you wrinkled ball sack"

[@jess-fg4vo]

ME TOO

[@cordeliahale644]

I'm a millennial, and I 100% agree that the age gap is problematic...... hell, it's downright disgusting. It's an older, more knowledgeable person(in how the world works, human behavior), taking advantage of someone who doesn't have the firsthand life experience to realize their being led, manipulated, groomed or abused💔

[@KetchupRocket]

Speaking from experience, if they write you poetry at ANY point, you RUN... RUN FAR. RUN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

[@kc7646]

ugh! she posted about how no one deserves this type of behavior directed at them no matter their age - but the REASON men like him prey on girls HER AGE is because he is incredibly aware that women his age are usually a lot more aware of their agency. and they are less afraid to say NO and back the fuck off to guys like him. even women in their mid-late twenties are usually more able to assert themselves and not get into situations like this. that's the reason you often see men like him preying solely on people under the age of 25. it's easier to find plenty of willing victims in that demographic. i said this in reply to another comment, but many girls are raised to minimize their own discomfort when vocalizing it could make others (the perpetrator) uncomfortable. i remember as a kid, my mom would always tell me i can't tell my dad when something he does makes me feel bad or sad because it hurts his feelings. that type of messaging can spiral into what happened to her. i myself didn't learn to start trusting my own instincts until i had undergone extensive therapy, and, by around 27, i was finally able to stand up for myself no matter what i thought the consequences would be. and many people simply do not respect women who choose to defend themselves against predators. they tell you to think of the predator's feelings - when there is no expectation for the predator to not prey upon you or make you uncomfortable in the first place. it seems crazy to some people that she would willingly go through with all of this with all of the red flags - but many girls are taught to ignore their own gut feelings in favor of being kind and sweet and polite. not only do parents teach this, but we get this messaging in the media, at school, at work. society reinforces it every step of the way. so she very well may have felt deep down that something wasn't right, but at 19, she hasn't yet learned the tools that would allow her to consciously recognize them and defend herself against them, or not put herself into the situation in the first place. and unfortunately many women only gain these tools by going through something traumatic or discomfiting.

[@THEDubbleHelixx]

Went from 60 to 200 when she dropped that she was his phone background. Jaw dropped. Also, if a family member really contacted her to say they're trying to get him help, that suggests this isn't the first time.

[@Lilyisawesome69]

Tbh it makes a lot of sense. This guy used to follow me (before I deleted tik tok) and I had my age in my bio, which I was like 16-17 at the time.

[@sproutofbean]

As someone who’s had a slightly similar situation. I can understand why at first she didn’t mention it because to be honest it’s embarrassing because you’ll already have the thought running in your head that everyone is gonna say “oh well you’re 19 why would you let it get that far” She is very brave to admit that she reciprocated an action because she was scared at that time and that feeling is a 100% VALID. and i just want to say something IF SOMEONE HAS THE ABSOLUTE NERVE AND AUDACITY TO TOUCH YOU OR HARASS YOU INAPPROPRIATELY WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION THEN THEY ARE CAPABLE OF SO MUCH MORE THAT YOURE NOT EVEN SURE OF AND THE FEAR YOU FEEL IN THAT MOMENT IS JUSTIFIABLE AND THAT FEAR CLOUDS YOUR JUDGEMENT AND ACTION THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT DO. So whether you push that person away or just “let it happen” it doesn’t change the fact that the other person is in the wrong and you are the victim. I hope Olivia is okay.

[@Bear27012]

Wow old guy with internet access turned out to be a creep, I’m so shocked 😢

[@five_6_seven_8]

He's doing the classic boomer missing the point "its just two people singing for you FOR FREE" nobody cares that it didnt cost money, nobody cares that its two people instead of one. Immediately sounds suspicious

[@greenisnotnick]

also that comment about doing it “for free” is so funny to me. like as if he should charge people to watch a livestream of him singing over a popular song😭😭😭

[@cutiepeel]

this is so sick. jesus christ. hope Olivia's doing okay. and I hope Rodger's family is okay. thank you for signal boosting this story, it's important.