Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera Project #8 - What's Next??

[@mariodesmo]

Franny, I did the same top end job on my 1977 S model (with 100K miles) many years ago, and replaced all the original plastic and rubber tubes, lines, connectors, etc. I did that on the recommendation of a local Porsche repair shop owner. The reason was that he had experienced numerous times when the customer wanted a budget repair, the original older parts would eventually fail (within a year typically) once the engine was back in the car. Even if they look good, there is probably some long-term wear below the surface where you can't see it. It's a little more cost now but a savings later when you don't have to fix vacuum leaks or line breaks once the engine is back in. Do you remember the old TV commercial with the car repair guy saying, "you can pay me now, or pay me later."? lol Anyway, I would replace as many of the old original plastic/rubber parts as possible now. The project is looking good overall!

[@FranPapas]

Ms. Franny, Hello - I have owned a 86 911 for about 33 years . I bought used with only 2000 miles and have done regular maintenace thru the years . I love your Budget Ebay series as you explain things so well and are showing fellow Porsche owners what happens with 35 plus year Porsches example rubber, plastic etc and how to go about doing such repairs and replacement . Keep up the GREAT work !! Thank you

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks so much!

[@buckmaxey7998]

Incredibly helpful. Getting ready to drop the engine on my '88 again and I seem to have forgotten a lot from the last time. This is making things far less stressful!

[@mikeleslie6486]

Heidi and Franny, love your channel. Definitely not being critical at all, but given how neat, clean and perfect your house and garage is, I can’t believe you degreased the transmission on your concrete driveway. Hope it didn’t leave a stain. Thanks and keep up the good work.

[@larsborjesson9021]

Once again- what a fantastic video! Love all the details, concerns and plans! 👍🏼

[@s.hall.4187]

Thanks for the overview, great close up camera work and explanation of what we are seeing. Looking forward to the next stage

[@johnspecht72]

No one complains about having to wait when the results are this good! You are on a different series and we are all enjoying it.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks so much John!

[@iainmcglynn833]

Another great video You two really do informative well filmed / edited stuff Nothing beats elbow grease 😂 nice job

[@MH-ev3wr]

Regarding the speed and reference sensors, there is a BMW version of those sensors that are WAY cheaper. Verify it on your own, but on my '87 the sensors are Porsche P/N 911 606 215 01. Even the BOSCH brand are $165 (Porsche brand are $323) apiece. The BMW version is P/N 12141708619M14 (on Pelican Parts) and the BOSCH brand are $84 apiece. So a 2 for 1.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks for that! I read that on Pelican I think. Same parts... I'll definitely look into it.

[@freerkderuiter8822]

Good to see this wonderful piece of engineering in such good hands :)

[@HeidiandFranny]

That is very sweet :)

[@freerkderuiter8822]

You're welcome :) Looking forward to the rest of the series :)

[@hatedknight]

My dads old rule. "Replace everything when motor is out that's hard or expensive to replace. " he would replace rear main seal at this time too if needed or not. I would say all Hoses, sensors and wiring that you can i would replace. Looking forward to seeing the next steps! Watching this series has been a blast so far. I fully understand the work and planing that goes into it ! Waiting for the next video. Take care and be safe :)

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks so much!

[@pokiebaron1]

A lot of great tips, in a 17:00 min. video! Thanks.

[@713vinh]

You are quite the mechanic. Take your time and rebuild it right. Having all the information at your fingertip is smart. Replacing parts is the easy part, finding them and waiting for arrival is the long and hardest. Enjoy watching your videos and can't wait to see the mext.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks so much!

[@DustyPearl-13]

Great job franny!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Great work on the clean up of the gearbox. Mine is unknown but I am going to bolt it up and see, but I will use some of your clean up tips to make it look a bit prettier at least. I think (besides the bills) you will really enjoy this rebuild. I know I have.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Hi Jeff! Just did a leakdown on the engine and the numbers were pretty good... Not sure how deep to go ;) It is a fun project! Really enjoying yours!!

[@danielneuenschwander7381]

Franny and Heidi, if you have not already done so, investing in a steam pressure washer, is a great time saver!

[@sjllee2588]

Watching is easy but worked on it must be hard. Admired of your work. Could be very expensive job Awesome video and enthusiastic. 👍👍👍

[@hermanshelton3660]

Great video. You do excellent work. Good luck with everything

[@flyingarts6765]

I replaced the mag fan with an aluminium one on my 87 several months ago. Eps brand from Vertex in Miami, $360 or so iirc ....i clear coated it and put in the oven at 140 for a couple of hours....looks beautiful.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Those do look great. Pretty tempting!

[@tdales2010]

I just put a 964 back together. I would recommend paying close attention to hose clamp positions. They should be installed in a position that can be removed when the engine is in the car.

[@edwinthompson159]

Transmission hosing came out great! Huge job you guys re taking on. Great video, reminds me of some "restorations' I had years ago: one piece redone, put it next to others, they look old/grungy... next thing you know you're three times over budget and everything is brand new.

[@stevecieri2755]

Another step forward. Have always liked painted engine fans since they have such a prominent location with the bonnet up. Since your car is white with black trim a black fan might look nice. Good luck on replacing the fiddly and greasy bits. You'll do a great job!

[@petercosack2863]

Hi Franny, great job. I like the way you explain every stepp of your work. Cheers from Germany

[@bobsaucedo7]

Great stuff. Love your videos. Thank you both very much!

[@zendher]

Another super duper video!!! I love you both Heidi and Franny.

[@secoff1]

Good luck with those exhaust nuts! penetrating oil,heat and patience. As far as the heads go, I know the temptation is to investigate but in your own words you stated it ran well with no issues. I'm afraid it could get very expensive very quickly and draw out the timeframe on your project.That's my .02.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks Scott. Got the same advice from Doug ;) My biggest real worry are those Dilavar exhaust studs. Super slippery slope!

[@andrewthompsonuk1]

I remember visiting a Porsche specialist who used to be in the Porsche racing team in Germany. He said it was a good idea to remove the heads every so often on the air cooled engines. Cannot rember why though. Whatever it was a case of a small fix now saves a huge fix later.

[@andyridley2236]

One good tip is order some TFR its a great cleaner for removing oil and grease its great for engine bays and washing old grease off door hinges.

[@fw1421]

If you’re having them rebuilt I wouldn’t pressure wash them in your driveway. That gets imbedded in the concrete and doesn’t come out,plus how do your neighbors feel about the runoff? The rebuilders are prepared and equipped to clean the parts.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Great update and the transmission looks great! I've never done engine work because it always felt too complicated, but after seeing you and many go through the process, I can see it requires attention to detail, over everything else. Looking forward to seeing your progress.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks Pat! Trying to take my time. Research, research! I have a lot to learn but it looks really interesting :)

[@johnhowell316]

Sure looks like you're doing a great job. Hope everything goes well. Looking forward to the next steps. Good luck!

[@garypaisley]

Appreciate you taking care to not hit the lavenders

[@HeidiandFranny]

They just bloomed!

[@LSmiata]

Hello Heidi and Franny's Garage, I have just been catching-up on the 911 "Shamoo" project and just enjoying the footage. Only comment, but I have not finished: Hope you did the through-out bearing. They call them "throw-outs" for a reason. Would not want to have to pull trans later for this relatively inexpensive/wear item. Cheers, Mr. P

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks! Yup, sure did. The old one felt ok at first but after looking at it more closely it was pretty shot. I would have replaced it anyway just for the reason you cited. Thanks!

[@haroldkerrii6085]

Very interesting--and that is coming from a totally unmechanic! I did love the term "wonky". That is my type of language. Great to see the sfatey glasses and gloves. Safety first! Heidi will appreciate that! Have to be honest--I don't watch all of these but enjoy the ones I see.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Ah, thanks Harold. Glad you are tuning in on occasion. If you are interested, I have started a channel about our kittens it is called Ozzie and Zeke. I can’t remember if you like cats or not, but please check out Harold. Heidi. kzbin.info/door/hX5WxObCF4XOiPC0h0FoJg

[@coyboy56]

Very informative video can’t wait to see the rest of the progress

[@malcolmscott4150]

Great update and good to see progress on such a great car

[@johnblunt1834]

Good luck with this both of you. I tend to forget sometimes that this is a joint project. Parts for specialist vehicles are a pain! John. UK.

[@artdeininger2965]

Great progress! Much love from Cleveland.

[@sportscarnut]

Note that the Bentley manual has several torque values wrong. You should get the OEM Technical Specification Book - 911 - www.suncoastparts.com/product/911TECHSPECS.html.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks! Yup, I read something about that on Pelican. Looked like typos... I do have the original Porsche manual as well (in PFD).

[@johna1160]

Franny, I just assumed you had a couple dozen long sleeved pink tops. Always flirting with the grease and grime, yet somehow remained spotless. HOA doesn't frown on your de-greasing on the driveway?

[@HeidiandFranny]

I guess I've just been lucky so far ;) Driveway is nice and clean :)

[@MasterChief-sl9ro]

You really want to clean parts. Nothing beats a steamer.. Just one of those little hand held ones work wonders. I use one on customers vehicles. As I get them with more oil on the outside. Then what belongs on the inside. And it's safe on gaskets and painted parts...

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks for the tip!

[@Kraals]

Bentley manual is certainly worth the price. One small tip from the manual saved me over $400 on one part.

[@jf6487]

Another great video. I am enjoying the series. I hear that Scrubbing Bubbles works great for this sort of thing although I haven't tried it myself. If nothing else it probably smells better than some of that other stuff.

[@HeidiandFranny]

No doubt about that!

[@buyusedpaycash7752]

good series....THANKS!!...oven cleaner is another efficient cleaner for the tough stuff

[@idrivearttabletennis]

Another great video. I've used Gunk for many years (my dad sold at this parts warehouse). Unrelated to the 911 but what happened to the rear of the i8? (I think that was your i8 in the background at the start of the video). Looking forward to future videos.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks David, I think I may have used the wrong Gunk... A little stronger might have worked better ;) um... What did you see on the i8? It had a little impromptu overnight at the spa (bmw agency) for a couple false alarms (over heated collision warning camera). We will be picking that up tonight. F

[@idrivearttabletennis]

@@HeidiandFranny The light makes the silver almost look white. I watched an earlier video and it did the same thing on camera. But nothing is wrong :) Regarding the Gunk: I have noticed that the stuff you can buy these days does not seem to be as effective as the stuff made a number of years ago. They also seem to have 3 different Gunk degreasers now: Original, Foaming, and Heavy Duty (???)

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

How did you stay so *clean*?!

[@HeidiandFranny]

I get that a lot ;) I'm not totally clean... I try to get things clean to start with. But, I'm pretty good at covering myself :)

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Can somebody tell me how does a transmission shop test a transmission that they rebuilt? Personally, I have never had any luck with rebuilt transmissions, they either don't shift right, or they leak. I always wind up going back to the shop multiple times and no matter what they do - they can't get it right. Very frustrating. Does the shop rebuild it and put it back in the car for testing? Or do they have a work bench to test it on? Hope your experience goes a lot better than mine.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Good question. We will find out.

[@Danehavenlane]

Clean items tend to be respected by others more than something that looks uncared for, yours not bad but would have done the same. Love the channel. 996. Access to hot water pressure washer would help but are very expensive.

[@andrewthompsonuk1]

How long did it take to clean off the driveway afterwards?

[@HeidiandFranny]

10-15min... not bad. Looks worse when I was a car in the winter!

[@RichieRich845]

Hi Franny Did you do a compression test before you took the engine out?

[@HeidiandFranny]

Ahhh. Great question! I'm not a big fan of compression tests, but I do like leak-down tests and I plan to perform one before I start pulling things off. It is pretty cumbersome to get to the spark plugs with the engine in the car. Should be quite a bit easier with it out. I know it should be warm, but I'm really looking for big variations. Should be coming up next-ish

[@matthewlcooke]

Who is doing the engine rebuild? I am local and would like to know for my own car. You have a great channel!!!

[@HeidiandFranny]

We are.

[@bigilworth]

Franny, aren't you worried about all the dirt and oily-dirt messing up your driveway?

[@HeidiandFranny]

It really wasn't that much... It looked bad, but it was well emulsified and easily washed away.

[@gregstillman5197]

did you use Heidi's toothbrush in the cleaning?

[@HeidiandFranny]

Shhhh... She usually doesn't notice ;)

[@HeidiandFranny]

It’s true. Heidi

[@davidhannah943]

Nice work, as usual, Franny. If you haven't visited his site, check out "kav911" and his "Canary Files" series. You'll appreciate how meticulous he is with his 911 rebuild.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks! Will do.

[@gregrsvr3947]

Does this engine have the famous IMS bearing issue ??

[@HeidiandFranny]

That issue started in the late 90s. The IMS Bearing issue happened on water cooled Porsches and not the air cooled with the exception of the Mezger engine in GT2 , GT3 and Turbos, which never had the bearing issue and was both water cooled and air cooled (It was air cooled when it won Le Mans in 1989). Thanks for asking. It can be confusing. Heidi

[@gregrsvr3947]

Thank you @@HeidiandFranny

[@kungaroo8345]

Could someone tell me how much does a Porsche 911 3.2 engine wight?

[@kimtrowbridge1061]

if i remember ...Fanny said while prepping for the removal..about 400 lbs.

[@rodgraff1782]

Since your going to have the heads off, I would definitely pull the barrels and pistons. Have them measured and if good, replace the rings, That would be a complete top end. I’d also replace any seals possible that don’t require splitting the case. Use the green Viton type. You might want to have the rockers re bushed and faced if your going to have the cams ground. Definitely have the cams profiled to be sure the lobes are still in spec. Pay attention to those vacuum lines going in and out of the oil tank. If they leak they will cause the engine to run rough. I would take all the fuel lines to they hydraulic hose shop and have new rubber crimped in. Might be some savings over buying new parts from Porsche. Good luck!

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks for all the great tips! I'm really curious as to what I'll see.

[@Barrywallace9216]

Can I buy it know

[@MH-ev3wr]

OH - I also know you said you weren't planning on restoring/cleaning the fan and housing, but there is a guy on Pelican who does this service. Here is the link to the thread: forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/732486-alternator-fan-housing-restoration.html

[@HeidiandFranny]

Thanks!

[@artmchugh5644]

WHAT !!! Trouble with second gear. On a 915 box !!! No way !!😄😄😄😄😄 I drive our 85 very carefully because there is NO syncro left !! Our engine runs GREAT !! 168.000 miles !!

[@HeidiandFranny]

I know, right? Super curious to see what the re-builder has to say when he gets into it...

[@bertrandliang9490]

Wow. If I may ask, where did you decide to do the gearbox rebuild? I’m in Colorado Springs and doing a similar project with a ‘77 911. I realize this thread is older but I’ve been following your work since I was back in California. Thanks for your wonderful videos and efforts to make it understandable for us less experienced folk.

[@HeidiandFranny]

@@bertrandliang9490You bet - we had it serviced at Storz Garage in Denver. Just do a quick search. They are exactly what you would expect of a shop that has been in business for 35 years ;) Great guys and quality work - super knowledgable. Highly recommended!

[@bertrandliang9490]

@@HeidiandFranny Thanks so much! Really appreciate you and your sharing! Hope you have a nice weekend.

[@davewhite1368]

All over you’re drive

[@laapulsford]

40,000 miles on a clutch on a 911 Carrera is probably end of life. Whilst the engine is out at least replace the main plate.

[@stephenauty2402]

Where's all the crap gone ? Down the drain?

[@HeidiandFranny]

All the fluids I take to the to the FLAPS to be recycled.

[@brendarossi1]

so you saved money but your driveway will be ruined and all the chemicals and fluids are now in the storm system, probably now illegal in your community without a separator.