Porsche 911 991.1 vs 991.2 engine sound and performance

I am working on a longer video detailing the differences between the 991.1 and 991.2 but I thought I would start with the most common requests which is sound and performance.
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[@TaigaXZ]

You're so dedicated to your channel that you flew out to Mexico just to film a drag race! ;D

[@bigdog91paper]

I really appreciate your dedication to traveling all the way to mexico so that you aren't breaking any traffic laws during your drag race. :)

[@virtualvcp]

I've driven both the 991.1 and 991.2 Carrera S models. The 991.2 I drove at the Porsche Experience Center, Silverstone in the UK for about 3 hours. The car feels great, but I've just last week bought a 2013 991.1 Carrera S with 27k miles on the clock. Personally I find that the NA engine sound is just sublime. While the 991.2 is impressive, I just couldn't resit the 3.8 NA engine. Also my 991.1 has the 4-pipe sports exhaust, which brings me to a another point. I really dislike the two pipes in the center of the 991.2 when ordered with a sports exhaust. All these things come down to personal taste. That's why all 911s are individually spec'd. We all like what we like, and that's OK.

[@WanderingFriar]

Just put down a deposit on a 991.1 15k mile 2013 4S in 2022 for this same reason. I drove a pal's new 992 base and I guess if youre new to Porsche, they are impressive. I'm old school. We like what we like.

[@zoner__]

@@WanderingFriar I have the same car and will never sell. My daughter knows that and already has placed dibs on it.

[@tmorris93]

I just traded my C8 for a 991.1S (plus some money back) today. Still not sure it was the right decision, but I like the car.

[@Rynardts]

​@@Martin-ke1ikyep, still have it and will never let it go!

[@powang4073]

This is the best 991.2 comparison video I have seen. Well done!

[@captainamirika]

Greetings from Brunei. Love your channel Nick. I recently acquired a pre-loved 991.1 Carrera PDK and its the best sports car i’ve owned. Your channel has helped me a lot. Keep it up!

[@spotshooter1]

I drove the 991.2 CS4 yesterday. Really fast and quiet was my take-away. Love the new Sport PASM. Sport exhaust was just ok, but I miss the intake noise. Drove home in my Cayman S 3.4L and was reminded why I love NA cars.

[@devisbetrisey5730]

I was really waiting for a video like this one, really what I was expected! Nice review as always. Greeting from Switzerland

[@shoeway22]

Wonderful video, Nick! Looking forward to seeing your 991.2 build!

[@betterhealth_tv]

Great review Nick! You can really hear the turbo's spooling up in the video.

[@cmartinez1012]

Awesome video Nick and look forward to full review on the .2

[@birddawg1171]

One of your best videos, the scenery and CT roads are so nice.

[@JonnyBeoulve]

By far the best video on this subject matter. Nicely done.

[@vancouverterry]

Aweosome video Nick. I am impressed with the new 991.2 Engine. Maybe purchasing one in the near future :).

[@DanielC9507]

haven't seen your videos in a while. really enjoyed this one

[@mmetz1877]

Well done, thanks for this insightful bit of information. Describing the visceral elements of these cars is a huge, often overlooked aspect. My biggest regret over the trend in electric cars. Someday I hope to own a 2012-2015 CS Coupe. Silver with red interior is on my bucket list! Look forward to your next video!

[@gizamlukeable]

Great video Nick. Definitely hearing the turbo whistle from the 991.2.

[@ravenstylea2]

Nick makes some really great vids.

[@Deadgamer60]

damn that turbo is spoolin HARD

[@stefankoles]

nice video,and i am so happy to see you again in a porsche

[@user-yr9hp5sv9t]

Good video Nick,unsure about new turbos but you're correct in saying that's the way it is moving forward.

[@Poorschedriver]

You didn't say Hey Everyone!! Great vid Nick, and props on getting these 2 together before anyone else. Keep it coming.

[@yitboy11]

I would love to know what you did not like about the power kit 3.8 engines. You see it as a huge option and you think, "Must be good". I loved to actually hear first hand what it actually affords you. Great vid as always Nick.

[@jon-paulcooper8336]

I'm sooo happy your giving Porsche another chance!!

[@SGM805]

Honestly would take either one of these beauties with a big smile on my face , must say tho I'm still loving that M4 Nick ....another great vid always a smile when I see you have uploaded, thank you (:

[@vloh168]

Thanks Nick! Best comparison test I've seen to date. My one nit would be that the video should make clear that the 991.2 had an optional sports exhaust fitted to it. I also can't tell whether the 991.1 had a sports exhaust. Would be good to know, in other words, whether this is a real apples to apples comparison.

[@mashsyed9808]

this is a really well made video...impressive..

[@paulandrebeccak5680]

Great video as always Nick (fantastic sound quality). There doesn't appear to be as big of a penalty in the new turbo engine sound in the 911 vs the 718 Boxster w/the new turbo 4! I do have to say it does sound quite different from the outside of the car. Heard a 991.2 drive by over the weekend full bore and you can tell it's a Porsche but it almost sounds meaner, but at the same time not as pure (nothing beats the sound of the NA engine between 4,000 and 7,600 RPM!!).

[@jongwlee62]

Very nice and thoughful review. Thanks!

[@TheCa007]

You're the man Nick. thanks for doing the first, true no pressure from porsche, review of these two head to head ;).

[@NickMurray]

+TheCa007 you are most welcome

[@jhras]

Nice video Nick, I'm thinking it can't be long before you venture over into television production? Video quality is really getting up there. Keep them coming! :)

[@JustinLoving]

Great job!! Love them both

[@CoopHenderson]

Love your videos! What's next for you after the M4?

[@1seipai]

The 911R will be fantastic. Hopefully you can do a review if you can get a hold of one!

[@lebacco]

Can't wait to test one out. But if i was shopping for one, i would go for the 991.1 GTS, the noise it makes is so addicting.

[@torianoevans]

This was Great!! Thanks, helping me decide.

[@carsaregood911]

In cabin sound of the 991.2 is phenomenal!

[@TheCa007]

yeah, it's pumped in the cabin through a hose/flap, so it should sound good. the boxter/cayman give better sound, especially the 3.4 litter flat6, the motor is right behind you, and it sounds glorious ;).

[@Avm-vm2bv]

Drive both of them behind each other: 991.2 is ok, the 991.1 makes you smile :-)

[@butterscotchtele]

Looking forward to your 718 base review.

[@derosarocks9477]

Thanks Mr. Murray. This has been helpful. I think I will need to test drive one to see if the lag will be too bothersome for me or if the added torque will be enough to compensate. Otherwise, I am still keeping the new GT3 on the table.

[@MrNEDM]

Great video! Thumbs up!

[@diulei2385]

Miss those 20+ minutes review!! But this one is awesome :)

[@ArthurSperotto]

Great video as always, Nick! Huge props to your friend for buying the right Porsche! 911 S with the NA 3.8, with a manual!

[@thefridgeman]

+Arthur Sperotto yeah, now he has to learn to drive it. Also, if you want manual in a 991.1, go for the GTS. The movement is more precise. See how the guy missed a gear during the second "drag race".

[@NickMurray]

+thefridgeman For many people the GTS is a downgrade to the C2S/C4S. I have not noticed any difference in the gear movement between the C4S and the GTS, are you sure they are different?

[@thefridgeman]

I am not the only one. "The shift is now much better than earlier versions of the 7-speeder" C.Harris on the "Goodwood Road&Racing" site, writing about the GTS. The old manual gearbox in the 997 GTS was waaaay better through.

[@Tednessful]

That is why the perfect combo is the one I ordered. Carrera 4S with manual box and adaptive sport suspension.

[@findtomdotcom]

Nice video Nick, thanks. I really wanted to love the new 991.2s as it is an excellent car, but.... I could not live with lack of noise, for now.. (compared to a GTS). I think coming from the M4 you might view turbos a bit differently? But you are right, this is the future. I'd like to see a PDK GTS v a 991.2s I think the results will be quite different.

[@BrainDesmo]

Nice review, keep up the good work! Btw, do I spy a GH4 or G7?

[@miroslavm2553]

Great video! They both are gorgeous, but 991.2 is by far the most beautiful car that Porsche ever made. ❤️ It is literally perfect (for my taste) and no wonder that 992 doesn’t warm my heart.

[@allenchang7226]

Great Video, quick question. Where do you get your GoPro mounts?

[@robertduncanmuir]

Saugatuck always nice....great vid.

[@maxhi88]

Great comparison! Great review! You've nailed it!

[@merc7paul]

Very Connecticut looking part of mexico

[@NickMurray]

+Sukun Paul I know right! I was shocked by that as well :)

[@K1dPhresh1]

Nick, agree with others....thanks for doing a comparo that people want to see. What do they sound like. I heard the turbo whine (not sure if that's what it should be called) and didn't like it. I have 3 F/I cars and one N/A car in my household, and I think N/A is where it's at. Shooting for a 997.2 CS one day, don't want anything do do with the new turbo (non "Turbo") 911 right now. I understand the reason for the change, but damn....

[@yoyoman9747]

Nice video. 991.2 should be coming within the month. Got a white Carrera 4S Cabrio. Yeah I know it's not the drivers choice, but it's what I wanted.

[@colinmills2875]

Hey Nick , love your videos .I have a m4 and have had numerous Porsches. Not driven the 911.2 yet.How do you compare these two cars, you did love the m4?

[@johnbratmon6385]

Hey Nick, nice video. Just curious, what shades are you wearing?

[@DrPanjoth]

Nick, Nice honest comparison. When are you gonna come down to Pittsburgh and take a spin in my Maserati GT? Come down for a Pittsburgh Cars and Coffee outing!

[@joelcummings]

I just have to say I love the colour combination of Peter's 911, exactly how I would get mine.

[@scanspeak00]

Great comparo, cheers.

[@gusseisern1151]

the 991.2 sounds way better. It has huge torque at low and mid range RPM. Forget the naturally aspirated. Porsche has a long history in how to make turbos and the new 991.2 is just awesome.

[@kendrickgoat]

Gusseisern finally someone understands

[@duckman5642]

great helpful vid, thax

[@CarGuy11]

Very cool to see difference thanks for the vid! I agree the na sounds better and its sad to see manufacturers loose the character of their engines with all going turbo.

[@vstol]

+CarGuy11 Totally agree.

[@elkevanwijnsberghe2057]

I have to admit that many car makers are going to turbo route for fiscal reasons but stating that Porsche is loosing character by this might be a bridge too far. They introduced a turbocharged version of the 911 in the mid-70s :-)

[@designbydy]

Big kicker is sport exhaust. Would be nice to know which or if both had the sport exhaust option. If so, while driving was the exhaust button on?

[@anandn7425]

Nice comparison. I heard some turbo whine with the turbo six that disappeared as the car picked up speed. The NA 3.8L sounded fantastic. Did the 991.1 have PSE? For drama, can't beat the NA flat six.

[@ScuuBdoo]

Liked before watching. Obviously.

[@MegaSturrup]

2 911's you have to like

[@andrewmoorhouse687]

Seems Porsche have done a pretty decent job with the new car. Old one still sounds better though! (and no doubt has better throttle response). Still, it's much closer than old Boxster vs new, which seems to lose much more sound-wise thanks to 2 cylinders less and a turbo. Sound is an important part of the sports car experience IMHO. Hopefully Porsche can keep NA for their GTS and GT models going forward. Thanks for the vid Nick, been waiting for this one and great to have a direct comparison 991.1 to .2. Good job as always!

[@zottoyanus7178]

nice nice nice !!!! thanks for your video!!!

[@ckarsenal]

Not directly related to this video, but can you compare the 7 speed MT found in the 911 vs the 6 speed found the cayman/boxster? I have heard the 6 speed is much better. What are your thoughts Nick?

[@golferchin76]

Nice video. I suggest keep both the 3.8 and the 3.0 turbo.

[@martini2285]

'creeps away' - made my day

[@zoniiic]

Nick, any chance for the same type of comparison between 981 Cayman/Boxster and 718 Cayman (when it gets released)/Boxster? With the 911 range the change isn't that crucial as the flat 6 engine remains - with the smaller Porsches you get 2 cylinders less. I guess this might be interesting!

[@Raditram]

I'm surprised how good and clean the 911.2 sounds inside the cabin. It still sounds like the Flat 6 we know and love. On the outside however, not as much... but still pretty decent imo.

[@claussalt8081]

Nick, have you tried the Cayman? More go-karty compared to the 911, but the GTS I borrowed was amazing. One for a future review?. (Still raining here), Regards, Nick.

[@nicinterlagos4515]

As much as I am a fan of driving manual cars I just don't know what to think when seeing the difference in shifting times between the two. So much more involving to be shifting a manual vs PDK but it just feels you are so inefficient in comparison. Nick would you stick with a manual or PDK for a .2? What are your thoughts related to shifting after driving both back to back?

[@colla555]

I like the interior sound of the NA engine more (on full throttle the exterior sound of the turbo model is surprisingly similar to the NA version)

[@JIMMYHIBBS1]

Any chance of getting your hands on a new Boxster 718 - would love to know what the make of the 4 cylinder T ...

[@dannykl6883]

I just bought a NA 991.1, don't like the sound of the new turbo engines apart from that the .2 looks great.

[@davidtoney3243]

Did you have the PSE on your car and if yes was in on?

[@craigj1969]

Very nice! will you be considering a 4S if you look at a 991.2? i love the look of those wide hips. Also, is a 718 Boxster on the cards for an upcoming review? it will be interesting to see what you think of the sound/performance in comparison to the 911

[@NickMurray]

+Craig J Yes, I much prefer the tail out driving of the 2S but with the weather here I suspect the 4S is a better option.

[@cmartinez1012]

Wow I'm amazed at the performance on the .2

[@souheib9343]

Question. I've been watching your channel the quiet a while, and my question to you would whether or not you would consider the Carrera. You have talked before in one of your videos about a 991.1 Carrera. I thought now you would love it more since its more powerful.

[@NickMurray]

+Souheib Merge No I would not consider a Carrera, the 991.1 Carrera is a little sort on torque for such an expensive car, this is improved with the 991.2 but really the S is the one to go for because the better brakes, wheels, suspension and of course power make few thousand more well worth while.

[@davejohnson9792]

Curious to hear about fuel efficiency between these two? Even though I would like to drive a performance car I still want the highest mpg's possible, and presumably with the smaller engine there should be some efficiency gains. Going to the gas station twice a week is not cool, IMHO.

[@E.PELLEGRINO]

I really like your vids, I had a go on one of my friends 911.1 carrera, it was absolutely breathtaking, especially the sound. Speaking of sound, may I ask you how you manage to record the exhaust note so well? Greets from Austria

[@NickMurray]

+Ernesto NP I have a mic with a win sock on it that I have at the back

[@allenchang7226]

+Nick Murray Where do you get your go pro mounts?

[@joeshmuckatelli4447]

I had a choice, NA or turbo in the 991.1 and 991.2. I chose the NA. I couldn’t give up the beautiful noise for a little extra torque.

[@jasper7894]

Btw no hate i love your vids 👍🏻 i work at a porsche centre in the netherlands

[@HorizonsUnlimited]

Did you not push the Sport Exhaust button? My 991.1 GTS has it and sounds much different.

[@markjones8013]

Excellent vid, very informative, it will help me choose. Yes the cart will miss the donkey but the horse is is a lot faster😉

[@DamianSupra]

does the 991.2 have itb's or something, it sounds awesome

[@andersgammelsrd1815]

Sounds like the guy in the 911.1 missed the gear shift at 5:32

[@BatuKMan1]

Two details that needs to be clarified Nick. The 991.2 has the sport exhaust, did the 991.1 had sports exhaust? Secondly, it can be seen in the video that the big gap opened during the second acceleration run, is at the moment of gear change because PDK vs Manual. I think the 991.2 won't be so good with the manual gearbox, as the fast shifting PDK keeps the turbo on boost whilst changing gear, on the manual the pressure will drop considerably and there will be much more lag felt.

[@ChrisDorgan]

+BatuKMan1 Apparently the turbo's are kept on spool so there isn't any delay. Some sort of trickery, whether that applies to the manual, I'm not sure but they've said no lag etc :D

[@BatuKMan1]

Yes, but that only works for really short periods of time, which works fine with the PDK. Since no one can shift that fast with a manual, the Turbo lag will be much more significant.

[@zeljkomadzo614]

+BatuKMan1 Even if the 991.1 maybe doesn´t have the sports exhaust it still sounds much better ;)

[@yoyoman9747]

Haha, you drove all the way down to Mexico for that drag race. I would expect no less of you Nick.

[@NickMurray]

+pandaK9 You know it!

[@a.kastner5588]

Nice wheel spacers on the .2 👌

[@MultiWildcat2]

Hey Nick love the videos, when are you going to get a porsche? I know you've been taking about getting one for a while.

[@NickMurray]

+Jacob Franck Maybe later this year, depending on how my savings go.

[@MultiWildcat2]

+Nick Murray Lets hope you have better luck with you're new one, than you had with you're carrera s. If you buy one.

[@adamdunbar7808]

being a bmw fan. Just curious if your next upgrade will return to the fable porche brand.

[@MrJusmobile]

What is you tire pressure cold for the 4s?

[@alimeghji7972]

What head unit is that installed On the 991.1?

[@ThreeDogsTwoCatsAndAWife]

what lens is on the lumix?....7-14mm?

[@phvondel]

What's a turbo leg? :D I like the sound of the NA much more (based on this video), but the .2 will be the better daily...

[@sotaros93]

I can see you putting an order in for one tomorrow. BTW, something is wrong with the filming or the editing/rendering in the shots with the trees.

[@NickMurray]

+sotiris.bos KZbin takes forever to correctly render my 60FPS videos, it comes right in a few days

[@supitsoli]

I have a question about the taillights. Is the thin middle light that connects the 2 lights an option? Cause I've seen it on the 991.1 and the 991.2 as well. However, I've seen both models without it.

[@abdullabatni77]

Oli the line in the middle is for the AWD version of both the reguler or S version of the carrera. So it will be either Carrera 4 or Carrera 4S.

[@bartvandenhaute4019]

Would love to see them use an electric motor (or 2 in this case) to get the turbo's on boost before the exhaust gasses can take over. This would mean zero lag and NA response to throttle changes. Or use hydraulics to do this. Considering the amount of oil needed to cool turbo's i have always wandered why they don't use the oil to push the turbo's into high rpm and cool them at the same time. No engineer but still, should be possible.

[@NikBeisert]

Why are you not a fan of the powerkit (X51)? Can you elaborate on the power delivery of those motors that you dislike?

[@bokiNYC]

I was wondering the same, Nick, any chance you could elaborate on that?

[@carlitoxb110]

You can easily hear the turbo, they both sound great, different but great

[@TheWalrus0608]

Yeah, I agree. I think the difference seems to be more noticeable from the outside which is good.

[@bighands69]

Turbo's are not the same NA. There is definitely going to be a difference.