Impressed you're even trying to keep a budget. Me, I just keep a separate bank account from the missus. Everyone's happy.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, I think my wife is just happy to know where I spend all my time when she's not with me.
@saqibnawaz51394 күн бұрын
Great effort of check & balances in budget of a minimalistic car project hopefully gud 911 engine wilb found to make reliable sport porsche dat matters the most
@Gatecrasher13 жыл бұрын
As someone who is looking to restore a 914 I thoroughly enjoyed your videos and candidness during your restoration. Fantastic job!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and best of luck on that 914. Should be a fun project!
@dalexa2 жыл бұрын
I would love to get a 4k 912/911 shell but in Portugal they sell them like it's made of gold. It's great to know that you're open about your budget. Most aren't because they overspend by a huge amount or because they are afraid that others would say that it was too cheap for a Porsche.
@GarageTimeAutoResto2 жыл бұрын
Too bad 911s are not as abundant as they are here. Thanks for the kind words.
@CTmoog3 жыл бұрын
Great video Tom! Thanks for sharing the details on the cost. It's pretty amazing what you accomplished and how much you did own your own. Nice job!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks CT,. It's cool to see it all come together 😊
@mikeemery39623 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, the “budget” was a big ask and really superfluous to what you have taught and shown people what they can do. You have always been very helpful in explaining how you did it. Well done to all the great content you have produced and shown for all to view. For anyone to go down this full on restoration path they would be amazed that you kept costs so low!!! Well done. Hopefully we see another build one day I as sure the journey is as much fun as the enjoyment of the end car! From your average Joe!! 😀
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed every minute of this process and this KZbin community has motivated me to stay consistent, do my best work, and stay focused. Thank you all for that! I should make average joe t shirt next!
@michaelserrone40693 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being so transparent Tom. Good job on keeping the project so close to budget. I would never be able to do what you did. Good Luck
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks,. I surprised myself!
@rosalyndvineyards673 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! I really admire that you kept to your budget. I have an 83 sc, and I’ve learned a lot watching your videos, especially rebuilding your pedal box. I just did mine, replacing the bushings, and you were what gave me the confidence to do it!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Keep going 👍
@1ocean5153 жыл бұрын
$12,500! Awesome job Tom. Your budget target helped keep you focused, but every project is bound to have some additional costs as you move along. In the dollar amounts involved here, @25% or so is really good. My first garage build was almost 50 years ago when I was in High School, and having a budget forced me into levels of creativity I am grateful to have learned I had. Looking forward to whatever you have coming next! 👍👍
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Very good point about creativity. For example, I could have bought a new longhood and fenders for about $5500 but then the budget would be gone! This turned my attention to a CNC machine???? It got the job done.
@DoubleRRestorations3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous job Tom. I admire you for keeping it on such a tight budget, something I would like to do with my 81Z. It's so easy for these restorations to get out of control. Your background and skill set definitely helped in accomplishing your goal. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to seeing more vids from both cars.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russ! You can do it too
@wooly57r Жыл бұрын
Thx for sharing your budget journey. You inspired me to go back to my spreadsheet on my 1959 Triumph TR3 build and total up the cost to date column. Turns out to be $15k Cdn which surprised me. The biggest component being paint and body work related ($6k) In retrospect if I had to do it again I think I would start with a better car as a base. My car was pretty rough when purchased which required the replacement of many worn out and missing components. $25 here, $10 there…the costs added up quickly. I managed to purchase a cache of parts from an estate last year for a good price which provided much needed parts. I have broke even now by selling off what I don’t need. I’m now in final assembly stage. Looking forward to completing the car in the next few months. It has been an interesting journey on many fronts.
@GarageTimeAutoResto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your costs as well. It's a journey, but now you can enjoy your investment and admire your work 😃 Starting with the best car is always good.
@lookylooish3 жыл бұрын
Tom I’ve really enjoyed this restoration. I do feel like full disclosure would include the purchase of a 911 engine is going to be at a minimum 10k for like a 2.7l so selling your 912 for 7.5k isn’t really subtracting from your build cost. It’s still incredible what you’ve achieved here and I love the can do attitude. Beautiful car!! And thanks for sharing
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Fair point about the 911 engine. I'm fully aware that the 911 engine that I want will cost more than I've spent to date. After all it's an "upgrade" to performance and nothing is free. The main point of contention was should I include the $1200 for an engine that I had on hand? That engine appreciated some while it was just sitting there, so that worked in my favor. I'm constantly buying and selling which is also fun for me. I didn't include any profits of excess parts that I acquired either.
@domenicomonteleone3055 Жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto I really like following you beacuse you give us all insight on many different things !!!
@hannulahti86053 жыл бұрын
Great work and have been pleasure to follow renovation , you have saved money by doing it yourself congrats !
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
For sure, I think a standard backdate is $25k for a shop to do it.
@michaelbiegel69733 жыл бұрын
Nice transparency Tom, great results for the car so far, looking forward to the next steps in the build.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Lots more to come
@raisingjunior63893 жыл бұрын
That's amazing, it's very little money for a lot of car, so hard work pays off! I'm in the same boat as I bought a worse car than what I was looking for but the cost of the parts alone that came with the Alfa made it worth the extra work. I don't have a budget goal but I saved (literally) buckets of money doing the rust repairs at home
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Rust is the most expensive part. So you are saving $$$$
@marionfisk79263 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching your videos of all the work on your car and thank you for sharing the details of your costs on your car it’s really helpful to see what’s possible to do working on these 911’s. Keep up the good work Tom.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching these videos! Owning and restoring a 911 doesn't have to be expensive.
@Hangin_With_Shane3 жыл бұрын
Tom, excellent video! I really enjoyed the breakdown and your philosophy on trying your own project first because it can be done by an average joe/jane! Congrats!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the Janes! Good point.
@Jonoponomono3 жыл бұрын
I am extremely impressed by what you have accomplished. Great job.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan
@Jonoponomono3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto Also an Engineer, but with a TVR and a Caterham which luckily have not required so much skill to keep going. I look forward to your next project!
@danwood10473 жыл бұрын
A true labor of love, Tom. (In Canada we call it a 'labour' of love)
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, canadians work even harder by adding the "u"😄
@OzGecko3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest breakdown of the build budget and congratulations on coming in at the total you have. I must admit to having stopped checking the total on my project but, given that I'm now about 18 years into a 5-year build plan, I'm confident I'm well past whatever my original overly optimistic guess was :)
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like my 356 plan!
@jeffharrison52653 жыл бұрын
Great information. Nice to know there is hope in doing a "budget" restoration now that I'm doing one myself. Lol. I was concerned the paint supplies might cost a fortune, but good to know they can be had for a reasonable amount. Thanks Tom. Car looks great.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
One thing I didn't know about paint cost is that each color is different. Yellow tends to be on the expensive side although I think that mostly applies to lighter and brighter ones. Bahama Yellow is kinda of dirty by design, ha ha.
@jeffharrison52653 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto Reds are expensive too. For my Jag I'm going with a dark blue. Almost Cobalt. Perhaps metallic.
@donrossi16033 жыл бұрын
Excellent Recap...!!! Thanks for sharing. Very Cool Car....Looking forward to upgraded engine!!!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
For sure. I'm excited to compare a 912 to 911 back to back with the same chassis.
@craig_chaznibond4523 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job. I think you might be surprised at the cost of parts here in the UK. A front wing ( fender) cost me £500 new! Second hand parts seem to cost a fortune!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky to be in southern california where there is probably the highest concentration of Porsche parts in the world.
@isallaboutthebicycle11263 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary Tom, now when do we get started on the 356? , would love to see you finish that car.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
New 356 video this Saturday 👍
@toddatstone_city_outlaw87143 жыл бұрын
Great to watch this build. Its been helpful as I am doing my 356.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! New 356 video coming this Saturday 😄
@billkunkle18803 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary and sound thinking behind your plan, thanks for your efforts.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill, the whole journey has been enjoyable except maybe the sanding...
@AW_DIY_garage3 жыл бұрын
I just found your build via GRM, good work. I haven't watched the videos. I am going to be watching over the next few weeks. Good work and great budget!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome. It's not a particularly flashy build, but it does highlight what can be done yourself in a small garage😄
@AW_DIY_garage3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto I just did the same with a Datsun 510 in my 2 car garage, and I think yours turned out great
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Cool car, that Datsun 510
@AW_DIY_garage3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto ahh thanks dude!
@mattedwards41643 жыл бұрын
Amazed at what you have done, great job and thanks for the videos. Glad I found your channel, my wife not so pleased as I bought a 1970 911 project lol.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Tell your wife that it's therapeutic and less expensive than golf, ha ha.
@toddatstone_city_outlaw87143 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about drilling holes in the door hands? I like the look of the mod.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe down the road. More of a cosmetic mod versus performance. It will be a while before I get all the performance I need, ha ha.
@toddatstone_city_outlaw87143 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto I understood. If you come across any 356A T1 handles at a swap meet or anywhere get the contact info me. I don’t want to drill out my original ones.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Oh, ok for 356. I'll let you know. I may have some but buried deep in boxes
@mattk77953 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I don't know why some people are so afraid to talk money, it is what it is.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
It's one of the few hobbies where cost isn't flaunted. It was easier for me to share because I had a good outcome. I can see why some builds choose to hide it
@moon-lit-rider9873 жыл бұрын
Impressive results with that budget & it’s always satisfying when you have made parts & done all the work yourself. Top job 🤙 🚗💨
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Very satisfying. Hard to convey without actually doing.
@atg19710 ай бұрын
Nice video. Impressed that you took that finicky body/metal work on. Also impressed that you had enough time to do it all with a regular job. What do you figure an original rust free but unrestored 912 should fetch these days? Thanks again.
@chriswaalen69563 жыл бұрын
I am getting ready on a 912 outlaw build and this is all good info!!!!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Great, best of luck on your project! Let me know if you need anything
@chriswaalen69563 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto thanks I will.
@Jnat997 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom your work is very inspired. I never messed around in the garage and would like you advice as to how you think I can get started . Don’t have the lingo or vocabulary down for part but do understand some of the mechanics…would love to get my hands dirty and learn … let me know how you think I should go about it… small projects tools and skills to learn along the way? Thx much !!
@GarageTimeAutoResto Жыл бұрын
Thanks! My mission is to spread the enjoyment of doing mechanical stuff. You don't need expensive tools or machines to get started. Get a basic socket set at harbor freight or a local swap meet. If you need a specialty tool, most auto parts stores let you borrow for free! Get the manuals and read them the night before then again in the morning and just start! If you get stuck, that's ok. There are a lot of forums and helpful people in this hobby. Join our Patreon calls every Monday and we can encourage you too.
@massimilianomicor87753 жыл бұрын
Great skills and thanks for sharing every details! It’s so encouraging to grow persinal skills up to next level!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this has become a no dental spared channel
@bisonuberti3 жыл бұрын
I was impressed with the current expenditure. Impressive results with the amount allotted. It seems the amount should be doubled. Looks great.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thx👍
@34SV3 жыл бұрын
little money for the astounding result you got. Lots of hours of work but, you are learning and enjoying!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
There's nothing like on the job training. That's why I'm asking people to just get started😄
@danieljamesmak3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the breakdown.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! No secrets here.
@roundtailrestoration3 жыл бұрын
Good video, Tom. Cost is always important. You did a hell of a lot better than me!!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! Your video is the only other one I've seen discussing cost. You included tools and space rental though too. I wish we could do a video together someday, in person.
@roundtailrestoration3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto yup, that would be awesome. A shame we couldn't live much further apart and still be in the US.
@steverush83622 жыл бұрын
Tom, thanks share buddy
@OhYeahAboutThat3 жыл бұрын
Great job. You can't touch anything like that here in San Diego for that price, but I'm sure you know that!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Some of these parts are from San diego!
@OhYeahAboutThat3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto I know. I heard that mentioned. Those 911s are nearly unattainable at this point.
@wththomas3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome ! I've been wanting to build one for a few years, but seeing empty shells or complete rust buckets go for 20k€ (I'm in France) discouraged me so much, and I'm not sure it will get better in the future as those cars gain value ! Anyway, nice work and thanks for sharing it with us :)
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Parts are cheap where I live which isn't fair to the rest of the world. We do pay a stiff sunshine tax though.
@franckn83383 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, 10 000 or 12 000 is not so important. The car could be sell more than that so. But the time you spend on it, the pleasure you had to work on it will make you proud of you, and proud of the support from your family, and you win a small community now on YT. That have no value. You made a good job, that is sure. Concerning the paint, Spi is also the best compromise in term of quality and cost ratio, here in France. I recommand them. Be safe with this car, have fun anyway.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The satisfaction level is at an all time high! And it's fun to take the family for short rides at the moment while I work out some of the bugs. I'm thrilled to hear that SPI is available in France. I did not expect that!
@Truffel123 жыл бұрын
Awesome job, Tom! Very inspiring to see what can be done with knowledge and passion! You forgot the royalties you have to pay Zack for his tunes doh 😉
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
That's what I forgot, ha ha. A few guys did chip in to pay Zach when he played RHCP which was a copyright strike for me.
@garagebeers13 жыл бұрын
Great work. I would be tickled to get mine done for even double that lol. I’m in a strange place though. 67 with original engine and trans yet it had a hard time in the 80’s. So to make it correct it’s going to be more than I can afford and that’s not even tackling the rust repair that is incredibly extensive
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
67 is a good year and great car to restore. Rust can be expensive and or time consuming, but anything is fixable😄
@thomasle69363 жыл бұрын
Do you do local side work? Another Porsche resto video? :) also who is Mario? I have a 911t I need to start cracking on. Teach me how to weld :)
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
I do projects for others on occasion. My preference is to coach versus a done for you approach. Mario's classic cars is a restoration &paint shop in Hesperia. Send me a message tom@ahhgaragetime.com
@walterkucharski47903 жыл бұрын
You did a fabulous job on budget.On my build I started with a rust free car but am adding everything I can to modernize suspension and braking and safety. Seriously, If you can find me a 3.6 engine that you vet for me I would pay a finders fee which can go towards your build.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Ooh a 3.6 is very nice! I'll keep my eye out. There are usually a few around my neck of the woods for sale. I might need to put it in my car just to check it out😄
@walterkucharski47903 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto Make sure you find 2!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
7.2L😄
@walterkucharski47903 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto All right!
@skrads3 жыл бұрын
Impressive budget. Great result. When will you be installing the flat 6 engine? I wish I was your neighbor 😀
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
I need to get one first, ha ha. It should this year though. If you were my neighbor you would probably need ear plugs due to me fixing everything with hammers.
@polloloci213 жыл бұрын
Keeping on budget is always hard to do- but as far as I’m concerned you did AND avoided project scope creep. 😆
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Agree, that it's very hard to stay in budget. The car came out nicer than I thought it would. But that is mostly due to the months I spent sanding on it.
@DriftingVoid3 күн бұрын
How I’m pretty late. But I saw and old 911t shell for really cheap, do you think it is worth it? I’m thinking of putting a Honda engine in it
@boastyy3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video mate.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Sure, thanks for watching
@boastyy3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto Thanks man!
@saqibnawaz51394 күн бұрын
Great effort of check & balances in budget r kept in a project of making a minimalistic sport porsche hopefully after getting 911 gud engine all da hardwork & labor wilb paid of by having a vry reliable porsche 911 sport car now Great gudluk wid finding 911 gud engine for a fun porsche
@palatinaworks72513 жыл бұрын
awesome, awesome, awesome
@RainG693 жыл бұрын
Horn grills are plastic or metal if $40? I see them for way more.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Metal
@georgeallen21243 жыл бұрын
Awesome Tom!!!! You didn’t say how many hours work you out into it?
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks George😄. I think I average about 12 hours a week for three years. I've been very consistent so that 1872 hours. Probably rounds up to 2000 hours. That's a guess though.
@georgeallen21243 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto That’s really amazing!!!!! And to have achieved all that on such a small budget! It’s really commendable; well done
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks George! It was hard to resist the urge to buy my way to completion. Nothing wrong with doing that, but my commitment to myself was to stay very low. If I wasn't finishing the 356 at the same time I probably wouldn't have been so budget minded.
@georgeallen21243 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto Well to put your outstanding efforts into perspective I’ve spent half your total budget on headers, exhaust and EB bumpers; most of which unfortunately was freight and customs to Australia!
@The9meister3 жыл бұрын
Porsche 911"s have so many parts available new from a lot of providers, information on how to repair 911's is endless, and they are designed to be worked on, so many people restoring them, would have to be one the best classic cars to own.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Lots of helpful folks too.
@louprimo60623 жыл бұрын
I have a Mono Black Prototipio steering wheel that is not original Momo but would look amazing in your budget after market parts Porsche. I can let you have it for $80.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, send me some pics tom@ahhgaragetime.com
@louprimo60623 жыл бұрын
Tom you did an amazing job at restoring the amazing car. I wish I have one tenth of your talent and I’m going to give it a go if I find a good car to restore
@wayne95183 жыл бұрын
Schedules are to keep track of how far behind you are. 😀 Budgets are to keep track of how much to share with the wife. 😀 What would you estimate the $ value of parts already on hand or did you include that?
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha so true. The only parts that I had on hand were some of the 356 engine parts. Most of those we swapped out for 912 stuff.
@rsrguy3 жыл бұрын
Don't get the thumbs downs...sheesh! Matrix is great stuff! Most don't know it's a ppg clone.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the thumbs down at all. Neither does KZbin as I think they are going to get rid of them!
@rsrguy3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto lol because of biden....
@thomprd3 жыл бұрын
Mirrors, door handles, steering wheel, tires... ?
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
The side mirror is a 356 that I had. It's a repro -$50, door handles are $65 no tumblers and broken stud, steering wheel - $70, tires came with the wheels
@stasn3715 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy because you have paid so little for everything. In the EU you pay for the secondhand engine starting from 7 up to 12kg (only for the engine without transmission). It is so strange to me that the EU is importing a lot of Porsche from the USA because it is cheaper there than in the EU although it is EU EU-produced car. for a very bad condition car 911, you will have to pay (starting) at least 25K. But well done to you sir! If I will do the same in Belgium I will have to come close to 30-40 ish k for a similar project.
@GarageTimeAutoResto Жыл бұрын
I know prices are very different in California as there is a lot of inventory. Everything I bought was a good deal and requires flexibility in picking up same-day in most cases.
@devilspin6649 Жыл бұрын
Anyone can reccomend a reliable and honest (I know!) restoration shop in California? Thanks a lot! I would still need to find a 911
@GarageTimeAutoResto Жыл бұрын
Try CPR in Fallbrook
@lancemillward19123 жыл бұрын
car and parts 12.5k. thousands of hours of labour...priceless
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! And it's documented.
@remcotissink3 жыл бұрын
One strut missing ???
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Dave_Boyer3 жыл бұрын
My wife says I’m 25 grand in to car that hasn’t been painted and has no engine...I should have bought a Porsche.
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
It's so easy to spend money on cars. It as if they run on money
@berponteberponte32313 жыл бұрын
STILL CHEAPER THAN therapy, AND YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SANITY!!!!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
True! Garage time is therapeutic 👍
@rodezell25632 жыл бұрын
Shit. I'm restoring a '76 912E and I'm into for over $70k.
@GarageTimeAutoResto2 жыл бұрын
You aren't alone! My style is very heavy on DIY which is a different kind of cost.
@rodezell25632 жыл бұрын
@@GarageTimeAutoResto , yeah, I'm doing all the work myself, but I'm also replacing everything with new. That is the difference in our projects. Check out my build video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jai0qYWkepWsb8U
@GarageTimeAutoResto2 жыл бұрын
Looks great!
@MindDezign3 жыл бұрын
No BODY EVER TELLS COST. This is why NO BODY has a clue. Magazines NEVER say! Car shows NEVER say ! Car Shows/ Cars and Coffee Owners NEVER say ! How is some one to KNOW ! This is not only a BRAVE video...to TELL COSTS. It is the coming future , " to be transparent " so your a modern man ahead of your time. Or SPOT ON ! The Classic Car Community thanks you ( secretly )
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
Good point. It shouldn't be an awkward conversation. People are obviously free to do whatever they want with their money. For me personally, the project isn't fun anymore when I've spent more than the cars worth.
@jvaubry Жыл бұрын
This is a not a restoration, this is a refresh on a parts car, an assembly of used parts and aftermarket (dare I say Chinese) parts. A restoration requires renewal of all worn out parts, and adhering to Porsche standards, which are not aftermarket parts. I am sure that you consider your car to be a Porsche, but using substandard parts, and paint does not qualify your car at the same level as a factory finished car. I am restoring a 1988 Porsche 951. I bought the car for $6500. I had the engine rebuilt at Lindsey racing for 20k, I have replaced 80% of the rubber(engine mounts, suspension mounts, seals, etc). I have spent 6k on the rebuild of the transaxle, and another 6k on miscellaneous parts, I have to spend another 10k to get the remaining rubber parts and miscellaneous parts for the rebuild, and another 10k for the body to be painted(preferably glassurit stage 2) and I have spent another 5k on a Vitesse stage 4 turbo system to upgrade the factory turbo and fuel management system. I only buy new Porsche parts, albeit at a discount. I want to restore this vehicle completely to better than factory spec. No aftermarket parts, no Chinese parts, etc. This is a hobby for me and hopefully a retirement project to finish in a couple years: I am also a degreed engineer and self taught mechanic with an extensive collection of tools.
@GarageTimeAutoResto Жыл бұрын
Good for you spending lots of money on a 944. To each is own. Personally I don't get any satisfaction in being upside down in a car, but I do appreciate a good restoration,. If you think today's Porsche parts are any better than today's aftermarket stuff then we will agree to disagree. Porsche classic or Porsche doesn't care about quality control on their vintage parts. They aren't built to the same specifications when new. Glasaurit paint is good, but today's modern two stage paints are better. Again to each is own and spend money how you want to spend it. My car is a budget build, track/street car that is highly modified. It performs better than the factory car when new.
@jvaubry Жыл бұрын
The problem with aftermarket parts are that they are sourced mostly from China with no understanding of material specification, or manufacturing process such as coatings and platings for corrosion resistance. Don’t be so naive to think that Porsche would not adhere to its manufacturing standards on any part it makes or sources. As to your own vehicle, most of the rubber components in your vehicle will not perform nearly as well as new given the fact that rubber hardens as it ages and after 30 years most of those rubber components are shot and in serious need of replacement, hence there is no way your car with questionable aftermarket parts and used parts could perform better than a factory new car.@@GarageTimeAutoResto
@GarageTimeAutoResto Жыл бұрын
Is sitting out in the rain how you measure the performance of a car? I don't know any classic car owner that believes this. URO premium parts which I mostly have are unlimited mile and lifetime guarantee. They do this because they know our cars are kept in the garage and they use good quality rubber.
@jvaubry Жыл бұрын
I understand that you don’t work in the automotive or product manufacturing industry so you don’t have an understanding or appreciation for what quality is or how it’s measured. Your definition of quality is from the customer’s point of view, which is often referred to as perceived quality, - what you as a customer believes about a given product without any quantitative data to validate your opinion. Those of us who work in manufacturing establish quality of a product(ie component) in terms of metrics that are measurable and repeatable, This applies to all aspects of the performance of a component for its intended function,. The basis of establishing quality, in terms of metrics is basis of all quality system at an oem as is the Toyota lean manufacturing system and continuous improvement. At the supplier level, the supplier must provide the sourced component to meet the metrics of the quality system used by the oem. However, the aftermarket suppliers do not have any established quality system per se, so in the case of aftermarket parts it’s buyer beware!@@GarageTimeAutoResto
@GarageTimeAutoResto Жыл бұрын
You are a classic example of an "engineer" trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. What you are saying might be great for new car production, but these quality plans don't exist in the restoration business. Porsche classic parts do have well known fit and quality problem by the way. Go ahead and try Porsche spark plug wires for example. They are horrible. Everyone I know is grateful that we have aftermarket options to keep our cars on the road. Most of us are helping each other out by sharing our experiences of what works. Watch my recent video on URO windshield rubber install. No appraiser on earth is going to devalue the car for an unmarked window seal.
@Cool12354 Жыл бұрын
Wait that’s Not a restoration, even the seats aren’t supposed to be there
@GarageTimeAutoResto Жыл бұрын
If you don't like these seats, the. You probably won't like these either. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJaml4ecq6tojrM
@craig_chaznibond4523 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job. I think you might be surprised at the cost of parts here in the UK. A front wing ( fender) cost me £500 new! Second hand parts seem to cost a fortune!
@GarageTimeAutoResto3 жыл бұрын
500 for a longhood fender? That would be a bargain. I'm very lucky that parts availability and prices are great where I live.