Porsche 911: The 991 vs 997

People have asked me to compare my previous 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S to my current 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS. In this video I explore some of those differences.
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[@Evanderj]

really sophisticated and useful review. Liked and Subbed. Thank you for doing this right!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks so much for watching and subbing!

[@amendamein]

i dont know why. i love 997 more.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

The 997.2 is a great, great version of the 911. I really enjoyed it when I had it. And it continues to look really good too. It performs very well. So I can understand why you like that one more.

[@gusibrahim6961]

amen damein Because it's a real 911😉

[@erojerisiz1571]

991: Tail lights too thin Rear slightly fatter More expensive *newer* Too large for a 911

[@MrNanah38]

Because it's more in our reach financially. Both cars are great I just cant see spending that kind of money on a car and not pay off my house . But I guess I am poor. I had a 996 I sold last year .my hope is to get a 08 tt.

[@jasonargyropoulos2674]

Congratulations on what you have done in life to be able to afford these cars. As a 26 year old who is starting college now to become an engineer, this is very inspiring and I appreciate you sharing. Owning a 911 is a dream of mine and seeing your video is just another reminder for me to work hard and study hard to make this a reality. Thanks

[@JoJoJoker]

You can do it. A few years making $100K+ and diligent personal finance is all it takes.

[@YumboYack2521]

Checking in after 6 years, how’s the progress?

[@greggeisenhardt7429]

Nice! I did the same thing! Sold my 997 manual C2S and bought a 991 C2S PDK. I was hesitant as I love manuals but I do many track days at Road America and the PDK shifts like a Formula 1 car! The 991 DOES NOT WEIGH MORE THAN A 997 BUT IT DOES HAVE MORE HP! The 991 feels more "planted" at 150 mph.

[@deesterity]

Thanks Joe for sharing, it's nice and inspiring to see how you seem to build up to enjoy and appreciate your cars - I was never a big fan of the outside look of the 964 to 997 generations, but the 991.1 in my eyes just looks fantastic, and every time I look at and listen to it, it's getting better. Your choice of color makes the GTS look stunning.

[@gabatron7580]

I just bought this car on the Need for Speed and I love it!

[@erojerisiz1571]

993 is better imo, but I don't have the 991

[@adaptiveagile]

Jaw is on the floor. Your 991 GTS is a jaw-dropper. Just wish they came in manual. Subbed.

[@jumperman1773]

997 sports car, 991 GT car. Both are good.......

[@jonathanmcstay]

Came here to say the same 👍

[@IdealMediaChannel]

Buy the 997! It's such a value! We just did a webisode on one, where you can see us do suspension, wheels, clutch and more in a helpful DIY format - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6HYoXqNq852icU

[@porschesportscar5568]

Here is an updated market report from Porsche Cars for Sale - www.pcarforsale.com/porsche-997-market-update-2017/

[@IdealMediaChannel]

Awesome information! Thanks for posting Porsche Sports Car!

[@erikandrade3482]

Gorgeous porsche that's my dream car I'm only 15 and hoping on achieving my goal of owning a Porsche just like you

[@keonmartin5656]

same here

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thank you so much. If you put your mind to it, you'll get there! I have been a fan of Porsche since your age as well. I dreamed of owning a car like this. I worked hard and I was able to get myself into a position to get one. If I can do it, you can too.

[@49fiori]

It's always like this, when 991 came out people were saying they prefer the 997, now that 992 came out, people are saying they prefer 991. It is really just an evolution, of course 992 is better than 991 and 991 is better than 997, and 997 is better than 996, the only time when previous model was better than the new model is 993, it's simply better than 996. I own 991.1 Turbo S and I will cry when the 992 Turbo S E-Hybrid with 680hp comes out later this year. But that's life. Porsche is business after all.

[@arainla]

Have a 997 and I actually like the tail lights on the 997's more. I prefer orange rear turn signals as mandated in Europe. I like the longer/wider stance of the new car but wish the added length made the rear seat area roomier, they didn't. In the 997 Alcantara headliner is standard but now an option. Driven both(997 & 991 Carrers S) on track and live the old hydraulic steering although heard the 2016 is much better. Also 20 inch wheels are not necessarily better on a track, but they do look good. If I didn't have kids I'd buy a Cayman GT4 but I wouldn't give up the 997, it will always stay with me. Love the deviated stitching on your car and saw the 2016 cars which I may go for in PDK this time so wife can drive it too. Great videos and in no way putting down the 991 just sharing my thoughts. Thanks for spending the time to make the videos!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+arainla Thanks so much for your comments. The 997 generation is fantastic. As I said in the video, I loved mine. Now mine was a Carrera S so it is a bit unfair to compare it to a 991 GTS with torque vectoring, dynamic engine mounts, the engine power kit, etc. This equipment gives an advantage to the new car when I drive it and are expensive options on a Carrera S yet come standard on a GTS. But I loved my 997.2. It is an awesome machine to drive and live with day to day.

[@sanderhawkins533]

Wow! Nicely done Joe. Very sharp color choice, interior, and wheels. I own a modified black on black 1997 993 C2 but would love to one day upgrade to the 991 chassis. Enjoy.

[@oDiProductions]

I just picked up a 997.2 Turbo in that same exact color and wheels as yours! Immediately threw on some black HRE wheels you can see on my channel. Keep up the great Porsche content! There is no substitute 😉

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I checked out your channel and your Turbo! I'm looking forward to seeing your car transform and what you do with it!

[@oDiProductions]

Wooo what an honor Joe! The car is currently getting wrapped and should be done in a couple weeks. Excited to reveal the new color once it's finished :-)

[@MichaelBath]

Both beautiful cars. I have a 997.1 but love the 991 GTS.

[@vwdarrin]

Both beautiful cars , that Sound is intoxicating

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks. Both cars are really great.

[@Maky313]

Sound which is now dead : ' (

[@TuddecBMW]

Wow you really configured your 991 very nicely.

[@Guitargasm1000]

Porsche is a car ive loved since early teens. If i cant afford one in real life...i can still love the car. I didnt get lucky in the music business or i would have had probably 2 porsches, 1 Ferrari, a newer Dodge Charger and A Corvette. Thanks for sharing.

[@bmwjesusfuckjdm7104]

Thumbs up for both great cars. I'm a BMW guy but respect and a lot of love for Porsche I'm just not sure how I'd work on a Porsche engine. Cheers euro car enthusiast friends.

[@57gord]

Just getting used to my 2016 (non turbo) 911 4 GTS. As I told you in your previous post i have to put snow tires on it up here (Canada) just to be able to drive it in the colder weather. Still no snow, so out again tomorrow to work on my shifting etc. This is fun !!............Thanks for your posts Joe.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+Gordon Schwartz Great to hear. I just installed a winter set of tires on mine too. Feels slightly different with winter rubber on. Interesting. But worth the investment for winter driving. Enjoy your car!!!!

[@bleusol]

I really enjoyed your review. Its always nice to get an owner's perspective on a car. I look forward to getting a 911 someday! Thanks again

[@strongerandwiser2023]

I dream on a 911... ive got a mitsubhishi Evo at the moment coming from a Porsche Cayman S. I just cant get the huge amount of cash together to buy one right now. Working 2 jobs simply isnt enough. Your a very lucky dude!

[@brandonyork7634]

That pop and crackle is insane

[@mikersvpmn]

That was a great overview. Your configuration is beautiful. I have a 997 4S and considering a 991 - this was very helpful. Thank you.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+Mike Jorgensen I am so glad it was helpful! Good luck on your decision. I love the 991.

[@1OklaSooner]

Clearly Porsche has upped the ante once again with the 991 and they are fantastic cars, but I can't help but like the styling of the 997 better. The extended wheelbase and the windshield pitch of the 991 makes it look less "911" to me...

[@erojerisiz1571]

A 911 isn't a 911 if it's larger than a civic. A 911 also isn't a 911 if it's handling is too good for a 911

[@erojerisiz1571]

If there's any 911 that doesn't look very "911" other than the 996, it's the 991.

[@donnamoreau2964]

In fairness it would be unlikely that an owner springing for a new 991....from a relatively new 997, would find the new car lacking in some way vs the older one. I haven't driven a 991 yet but have done a number of enthusiastic miles in 997's. The complaint I have heard from qualified 911 people is that the electric steering does not transmit the traditional 911 road feel like previous generations. For the record, I have an 85 and a 96 that continue to provide me with a ton of fun!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+Donna Moreau Very fair point. Why would I buy a new one if I didn't like it? The 997 version is an excellent car and if someone is in the market for a 911, you can find a great 997 for much less money than a new 991 and you will still have a great, fantastic drive. So that calls into question whether spending more on a new 991 vs a 997 is really worth it. For some, it isn't worth it. Part of the appeal of this new one for me is that it is a GTS with a little more horsepower and amenities that my 997 2S didn't have. And it will be the last of the naturally aspirated Carreras. News reports are hinting that the next GTS will be turbocharged like the rest of the Carrera line.

[@pauln361]

Test drove a GTS...but in the end, I chose the 997 turbo. The combination of the size, the speed, the 6-speed manual, ease of adding even more power just was hard to turn down. For the price, a 997 GT3 is also very capable. Very nice interior and color combination in your GTS.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+Paul Darin I agree that a 997 turbo is a whole step up in performance over a 991 GTS. You will be very, very happy.

[@pauln361]

Would love to add a GTS to the stable one day.

[@allfilipinohq5674]

Hi Joe! Nice channel and videos as well. I see how much effort you have put into your videos including the thumbnail.:) Anyway, both really great cars! Happy for you to be sharing your thoughts between the two cars without sounding like some arrogant rich guy. Good job Joe and please keep it up. Worth subscribing!

[@JoJoJoker]

That's why I want a 997 GTS. Power of a 991, looks of a 997.

[@spikac]

Great looking car man! Tastefully put together.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+spikac Many thanks!

[@ilpav123]

I prefer the styling of the 997 and if you have one with a manual it'll fetch a premium as a classic in a few years. The 991 is obviously faster with a better interior but it has too many electronics (people don't like the electric steering especially).

[@erojerisiz1571]

God I hate new cars because electronics and 50+ buttons

[@PorscheCarreraS]

Great video Joe! You have the very last of the naturally aspirated 911s, beautiful car. My current car is a 997.2 C4S in the same color as your previous car.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+2009 Porsche Carrera 4S I really did like the 997.2 S. It is a great car. The body of your 4S is wider than my previous 2S and that wider body really looks good.

[@eliotsalandybrown]

Great informative video. Thanks for sharing your personal impressions.

[@JohnSmith-tt6te]

Thanks Joe. I enjoy your GTS videos and I am looking to buy a GTS soon.

[@DrCGuerra]

Porsche has locked all new orders of the 2016 991 GTS. You will have to buy what they have on the lot. Hopefully, you will find something close to what you were looking for.

[@JohnSmith-tt6te]

+Carlos Guerra, Jr Do you mean the 991.2 GTS or the 991.1 GTS?? I'm looking to get the 991.2 GTS (after it's released in 2016???)

[@DrCGuerra]

The 991.1 GTS. I assumed you wanted the NA version. Since the 991.2 is already a 2017 model, I suspect Porsche will release the 991.2 GTS sometime in 2017 as a 2018 model.

[@franonti]

great video, good job!

[@grc0456]

Nicely done, Joe! Great cars, both. But, as they say, you can't stop progress.

[@15284750]

If you are a Porsche fan and looking for the best value for money Cayman S is unbeatable. I bought it a month ago, it's my first Porsche and every time I drive it I just can't believe I got it for the price of new Camry.

[@Hrdstylz4ever]

Joe, thank you very much for this comparison. I'm trying to decide if I should go for a 997.2 VS paying 15-20k more for a 991. I know they're both great cars, but I just like the look of the 991 a little better + all the other improvements that were made.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+CommonSon it really is a tough call to make. I alluded to the dilemma in the video: You can save money by going with a well maintained 997.2 so is the 991 really worth it? I loved my 997.2S. Have you considered a 997.2GTS? That may be worth investigating. The 997.2 cars are really great cars, fast and fun and have already depreciated so you can save money. Having said all that, I love my 991.1 GTS. It is an improvement over the 997.2 in every way. It looks better (although that is subjective), interior is way better no doubt, it performs better. But it is an incremental improvement. Only you can decide if that is worth the extra cash. In the end, for me, I thought it was worth it.

[@Chris-qc9dj]

I wish u would of talked more about the 997 for us poor folk.

[@gollum3232]

I've daily driven a black 2006 911 Carrera 4S (997.1) for 3 years now. After the second year I bought a winter wheel/tire set and now it goes like a tank through the minimal snow I deal with in Kentucky. I bought it with 32k on the odo and I've put another 40k on it myself. These cars are meant to be driven. I've done 20+ track days with it and phenomenal. Drive it to the track, drive it to the max, drive it home. I love it. I once had my pads go down to metal on the last day, and drove home 240 miles only using the (screech) brakes about seven times. Got new rotors and good to go! Gave myself a Fabspeed Competition Air Intake for Christmas. It truly HOWLS at 5k and up, nice and quiet in town. I LOVE it! Otherwise, bone stock and the best car I've ever owned. I used to drive a used 1976 911S Targa, then a new1986 Mustang GT followed by a new 1993 Mazda RX-7 twin turbo (awesome car). In 30 years between 1976 and 2006 Porsche has come a long way, baby. I've thought about using another car through the week, but I can't stand the thought of depriving myself the experience. It's that good.

[@Chris-qc9dj]

Stuart Baldwin awesome. Thx for the info.

[@Chris-qc9dj]

Stuart Baldwin I have a supercharged e92 m3. It's nice but a little to heavy in my opinion. I test drove some 911's before getting it but I wasn't blown away. I'm thinking I should of maybe test driven some more 911's.

[@IdealMediaChannel]

We had an e90 m3 for a while and really enjoyed it. But agree that it is a little heavy. But the 911 feels like it is in a different league. How do the brakes hold up with your m3 being supercharged? We found the M3 brakes like to get hot quickly and fade, and ours didn't have a supercharger.

[@williamscott7763]

Really liked the video and love the color combo on your car. Is it a daily driver during the winter?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+William Scott I drive the 911 in the winter yes, but not on a daily basis. The bulk of my daily commute to work is on a train in to Manhattan. I don't like leaving the car out on the train station lot every day and my house is only 5 minutes away from the station. So usually leave the 911 home. So I do drive it in the winter but mostly on the weekends or trips. I try to avoid snow and salt.

[@markpuccio6270]

Hi Joe, Great information and video. I just ordered a 911 Targa GTS. March production date so I am days away from any final changes in the build. I have been going back and forth on the GTS interior package. I love the look of the carbon fibre and red contrast stitching but my dealer swayed me to the leather interior because of the Alcantara. They commented that it might not wear as well as the leather. How has the Alcantara held up in your car? Any issues with the Alcantara or GTS interior? Would you get the GTS package again? Thanks Joe! Keep up the great videos.

[@RE-fw4gn]

Nice video. Manual vs PDK, No comparision. Manual!

[@triode1212]

I noticed that your 991 doesn't have the two ugly federalized bumperettes on the rear bumper that your 997 had - why is that? Have the safety rules changed or did you delete them on the 991?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Hi there. The 991 was delivered without those bumperettes. No need to delete. Here is my guess not based on any reporting so this could be totally wrong: Porsche manufactured one bumper for all 997s that accommodated the wide European license plate. The Euro 997s don't have those bumperettes. But here in the US, the plate is not so wide. So Porsche just put those two bumperettes in to fill in the space. The 991 comes with a US specific rear bumper fascia, with a license plate opening sized for our plates. No bumperettes.

[@rccola454]

Great video, well done comparison between the newer and older generation 911's. One question though I don't think you really anwsered is whether you believe the price difference between the 997 and the 991 is worth it? Considering that you can get a nicely equipped 991 between $50-60k versus a new 997 for close to double that cost. I'm asking in terms of performance, styling and overall package. Thanks for videos again, very informative and helpful for someone starting their look to step up to the world of 911's!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+rccola454 Good point. I probably skirted that answer. Because it depends on your situation and desires. In my view, the 991.1 GTS is superior to my previous 997.2 2S in every way. Performance, technology, design. But my previous 997.2 2S is an awesome car and even as a 2009 model year car, it's superior to most brand new cars out today. And you can get a used 2009 911 for a fraction of the cost of a 2015 or 2016 911. If price point is important, than I recommend a 997.2. The 997.2 is close in performance and will make driving enthusiasts very, very happy. In the end, the 991.1 is a faster, better designed (interior especially) car so if max, up to date performance and refinement is the goal, then 991.1 all the way. Only you can make that personal decision.

[@rccola454]

+Joe Hutchinson thanks for the reply. I have always wanted a Porsche 911 and I'm in a position where I can enter into the market now. However it's tough for me to justify double the cost (even tougher to justify to the Wife!), especially since I live in Canada where it might be tough to drive this car 12 months, I can use the extra $50 on a great daily driver.

[@nycporsche6505]

I'm a bit biased but here are reasons why 997 is better: - Hydraulic steering > electric steering - they basically switched to the latter to save money - All true sports cars should have a manual hand brake, electric brake is gay - Engine is louder. I can barely hear the engine in the new 991. - Feels more raw. The 991 is like a luxury car. - Interior is classic 911, very minimalistic. The 991 interior is basically from the Panarama which is a luxury sedan. - Tail lights look better but this is quite subjective. The 991 has recessed, Aston Martin-like tail lights which are pretty hideous to me. - Small and compact just what a 911 should be. If you park the 991 next to a Ferrari, they are pretty much the same size. It's just too big in my opinion. - Probably the biggest reason not to get a 991 now is that they will all be turbo-charged if they're not already. Goodbye to NA engine! Having said that, there are some things I do like about 991: - More aerodynamic profile. I never like how Porsche does not have a low profile like other super cars. It makes the car look more sexy. - Bigger wheels. I have to admit, 20 in wheels look so much better than 19 in. Newer cars will always have more hp and be faster so I don't think that is a plus imo, plus 385 hp is plenty fun and mine is manual since that is a must for me for any car if it has that option. In the end, 991 is not worth it for me.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

No one can go wrong with a 997. They are fantastic. I prefer the 997.2 though. Having said that, I am glad I have the 991.1 with more power and it's the last of the NA engine Carreras. And I like the sleeker body and the more luxurious interior finishes. But the 997 is a great, great driver's car and will keep putting smiles on your face for years to come. I loved mine when I had it.

[@erojerisiz1571]

Lighter weight+ Less eletronics> Horsepower with extra weight

[@mecheng1977]

Great comparison and great backdrops, which state are you in? Very green

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

This was filmed in New York state in the suburbs about an hour north of New York City in Westchester and Rockland Counties during the warmer months.

[@mecheng1977]

Joe Hutchinson awesome, looks beautiful. Much more beautiful than NYC.

[@drumminham]

Love your videos, Sir. I'm stationed in Germany about 2.5 hours from the Porsche museum in Stuttgart. It's my happy place and I highly recommend the "Religious Pilgrimage" for all Porsche freaks

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+drumminham Thanks so much! Seeing the Porsche museum would be fantastic. I'll put it on my bucket list!

[@beauar1]

center lock rims are a horrible decision when you need to change a flat. yes they look cool, but they require a ton of torque to break and its a huge headache.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Got it. I got a puncture that created a very slow leak. So I was able to drive the car to my service guy at Porsche. So I was lucky. If I got a total flat out on the open road I would need to call Porsche 24 hour emergency service for a tow to service.

[@desertsun100]

You dont change a flat...At the most have a tire plug kit and a can of fix a flat to get you back to the shop or just call and have it towed.

[@HermanHerrera]

I have a 2009 997.2 and I love it. I like to drive a car near its limits and to do that in a turbo or a gts....you better be a damn good driver or you can end up in a grave. To me it’s about the 0-60....when am I ever doing 100 on public roads? Also...aesthetically, the 991 is too big....I feel Porsche is losing some of its heritage by trying to keep up with other car companies, as far as body/engine size go. Thank you for taking the time to make this vid and share your opinion. I subbed :)

[@cmarnold78]

Hey Joe, really enjoy your videos. How much difference did the Fabspeed intake make to the sound of the 997?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I bought the 997 certified pre-owned and the Fabspeed equipment was already installed. So I never heard the car without it. I loved the sound for the most part. It's an awesome system. If I were to install it now, I would get the switch that enables you to quiet it down if you want. So for long hours in the car, I would quiet it down sometimes. And then when I want a blast, flip the switch and enjoy the sound again! Fabspeed set up really does enhance the sound of the car.

[@cmarnold78]

Thanks for the reply! Was it just the Fabspeed intake or did it also have the Fabspeed exhaust too?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Both intake and exhaust. There was also a carbon fiber heat shield installed to help keep the air going in to the intake cool (obviously). I was happy with it. I just wish I had that quiet switch, which I believe Fabspeed provides now.

[@gollum3232]

The intake alone is a good improvement on the sound quality over 4K rpm, but nice and quiet for around-town driving.

[@fuddrucker74]

Thank you.

[@DeltaCharlie27]

Nice review and comparo!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@temprmj1]

Well done! I enjoyed it from start to end.

[@NuclearGrizzly]

I have to agree. I owed a '11 Turbo S and currently own a "15 Turbo S. The '11 was fantastic. The '15 is better. As well the newer generation should be. But I still I prefer my '97 to either.

[@worldtravel101]

love that fabspeed equipment.

[@Elennpto]

Hello joe, enjoyed ur videos but i have one question please. Im planing to buy the new 2016 911.2 turbo s with 580 hp. Now my question is does the turbo sounds louder than a carrera 4s,gts?

[@VirusTornado]

+leon STURM No. A Turbo 911 is always quieter than a Carrera S, 4S, GTS. Why? The turbos make the car quieter. However, even the 991.2 Carrera S and 4S now have new 3.0 turbo engines, so they're quieter than the 991.1 Carrera S and 4S models. Have you considered a GT3? Same price range, amazing sound. However, you WILL NOT regret buying a Turbo S, they're absolutely AMAZING. The performance is unbelievable, they're comfortable, they look so aggressive, and who in the world doesn't like 911 Turbos? Oh I forgot to mention, the 911 Turbo does have a "sport exhaust" option, but it's not as aggressive as the one in the 911 Carrera and Carrera S/4S because of the big turbos.

[@Elennpto]

+VirusTornado thank your for replying :) yea i ordered the turbo s... I love that car but its sad that its not louder. But anyways i think i will enjoy it

[@Stephen981cs]

There are after market exhausts that make it pretty loud. I think sharkwerks make one

[@VirusTornado]

leon STURM "I think I will enjoy it" that is an UNDERSTATEMENT. You'll absolutely love it!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+leon STURM as +VirusTornado said, the turbos mute the sound of the exhaust. What makes the turbos spin is the exhaust gases so right there you have this device interrupting the flow of the exhaust and that makes it quieter. I agree that the Turbo S is an amazing car. It's the best of everything. Incredible speed and agility with the interior comforts of a grand tourer. You are going to love it. Personally, I am not sure I would add loud exhaust to a Turbo S. I think the pure speed of the thing is a rush! But that's just me.

[@GT-hh3ts]

Have you driven the 991 GT3? I love the GTS, very classy and sharp, the GT3 is extremely visceral and quite a jump in performance and handling vs the GTS. Gotta love Porsche, variety is the spice of Porsche life!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+ERIC DAVIS I have not driven the GT3. In a way, I don't want to drive it because then I'll probably want to own it! ;) In actuality, I purposely chose the GTS because I wanted something less visceral, less hard core than the GT3. I am going to use the GTS for long trips with my wife and stuff like that in addition to my fun driving so having something so track focused as the GT3 didn't seem right for my use. Yet the GTS offers a bit more thrill than my previous 2S. I agree, with Porsche you can get a car tailored to your specific wants and desires!

[@GT-hh3ts]

I totally agree. It would be a fun weekend warrior for you, your wife may not like the noise level and chaos from the GT3. My wife has only ridden in it 1 time and thats because I asked her too. Its my hobby and she has hers ;) Beautiful car, love the color Agate?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+ERIC DAVIS I totally agree. And I knew I wasn't going to be able to do a lot of track days. From what I have read, the GT3 is awesome. Truly superior performance. But for me, and my wife, the GTS works well. And yes, the color is Agate Gray.

[@jamessuttie1261]

Great review. Thank you!

[@8UNFL8WER8]

Thanks for the nice review

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

You're welcome!

[@Markley92]

Please do identical video comparing your GTS to the new 911CS turbo.

[@Clesarie]

I really like the 997 more however im a 4s style of guy.

[@nycporsche6505]

The 997 is a real 911. The 991 is just a Panarama 911-wannabe

[@erojerisiz1571]

997>991 Literally and mathematically

[@bearpickle]

excellent camera work!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+bearpickle Thanks!

[@rembo183]

Good morning! Watching you drive I wondered if you ever got speeding tickets? 😊 lol

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I've been lucky so far, knock on wood. I hope I just didn't jinx myself!

[@rembo183]

Joe Hutchinson - I started using cruise control in town after a speeding ticket...👍🏻

[@rationalthinker9181]

I have done the exact same trade up. I just want to say one thing the 991 is more developed the 997.2 is a more engaging to drive and the interior while older style has less of a production feel to it. The increase in cost where I live was $ 60000 to trade up. The 991 is easier to drive fast but the 997 is fast enough to be considered irresponsible on public roads. If I had my money again I would rather have kept the 60K in my pocket if I'm honest. Maybe waited for the next incarnation after the 991.2.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+Rational Thinker All good points. The 997.2 is plenty fun and a totally engaging driver's car. It may not be worth it for some to upgrade to the 991.

[@rationalthinker9181]

I regret it truth be told, def buyers remorse

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Oh no! Sorry to hear about that. The 997.2 is a really good 911. I happen to be happy with my switch to the 991.1. I love the car. I went from a 997 2S to a 991 2GTS, manual to PDK, so a noticeable shift in car "personality" for me, if that makes any sense. So I am happy with the switch. Having said that, could I have been happy with my 997.2 long term? Yes.

[@JoJoJoker]

The 997.2 GTS was a sweet spot. 408 HP engine with the classic 911 body. Mmmm

[@mareksumguy1887]

Fact: You really f@!#ed up swapping out your 997.2 manual C2S for a bigger and heavier 991.

[@dtschlack]

Surprisingly the 991 is not much heavier and has better weight distribution.

[@LaserFocused]

Do you really think the Fabspeed cold air intake made an improvement?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I purchased the 997.2 used and it had the Fabspeed equipment already installed. So I didn't drive a stock 997 to compare to one I purchased to feel a difference. I will say that the 997.2 with the Fabspeed equipment felt almost as quick off the line as my 991.2 GTS. That's not scientific, more about feel.

[@LaserFocused]

Thanks Joe. The reason I am asking is because I am getting my car getting work at vision motorsports in CA going from a 3.8 2008 4S to 4.2 L bore.. I have fabspeed headers and Fabspeed exhaust getting installed. I was not sure about the fabspeed cold air intake so asking people with experience with the product.. It definitely looks great.. Thanks for your response

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

If you are already going that far with the modifications, I would recommend getting the cold air intake as well. But again, I am no expert.

[@OhYeahAboutThat]

Excellent video comparison! Thank you!

[@thomash6111]

Thanks brother!

[@tadficuscactus]

997 looks better!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+boose boose You can't lose with the 997.

[@erojerisiz1571]

997 will always be better. Just don't compare it to a 993 because the 993 is THE 911 before the 997.

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

So the 997 Carrera S has PASM as standard therefore 10mm lowered.. And the 991 GTS is 20mm Lowered when compared with base Carrera's

[@heric_]

Could you please tell me what's the color of your 991 ? It's GORGEOUS! Thanks in advance!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I love the color too. The 991 is Agate Grey. The 997.2 was Meteor Grey.

[@alfpetzer5812]

Went from 996 to 997 to 991 and back to 997. 991 gave me Audi RS4 vibes. Great car but not what I want from a 911.

[@erojerisiz1571]

997 Lighter Cuter Better tail lights *OLDER* Cheaper

[@miketheman4341]

This is like night and day! It's not only a step up its a huge step up! The 991S lapped the Ring with a better time than the 997 Turbo managed. Comfort, technology and speed are all better! Sorry your old 997 with modified exhaust was not giving you more HP!

[@lokro2207xd]

yes it did

[@miketheman4341]

Lorenz Kroneisl No it was not! It's why Porsche tests modified systems. Believing you got more HP and actually getting more are 2 different things.

[@miketheman4341]

***** EXACTLY! AFTER MARKET IS A GREAT SCAM MADE ALL THE MORE PROFITABLE BY IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY CAN IMPROVE A 911 AFTER SEEING ALL THE FAST AND FURIOUS FILMS. YES I'LL DO IN MY GARAGE WHAT PORSCHE COULD NOT DO AFTER BILLION IN R&D! LOL!

[@Billboard2001]

Go to Fabspeed's website and look at some of the dyno sheets. There are proven gains, and looking at some of the restrictions in the stock system it's fairly easy to see why.

[@miketheman4341]

Billboard2001 Hate to break it to you but a web site is not a citation nor a credible resource. They are a company in the business of selling after market mod parts to car owners. Did you expect them to admit our stuff does not work or that it has any number of problems even when it does. This is why modified Porsche's are so unreliable.

[@robinirazoqui6769]

Thats a stunning GTS

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks! I love it!

[@jtoddk98]

Love the interiors of the newer 991.1 and 991.2 cars, the 997s had too much cheap looking plastic in the center stack, the navi setup was also dated.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+jtoddk98 Yes, the 991 interiors are a big step up from the 997s.

[@erojerisiz1571]

991 interior: luxury car 997 interior: race car

[@swsschz]

A comparison without comparing the hydraulic power steering of the 997 vs the electric power steering of the 991...

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+Ronald Suizo On public roads, not much of a difference, honestly. Perhaps on the track it would be more noticeable where speeds are much higher. I have not tracked either car. So for how I used the 997 and now the 991, not a big difference.

[@nycporsche6505]

Huge difference for me. You do know they switch to electric to save money and for no other reason.

[@bnattapat]

Great compare 👍

[@at8504]

nice video. nice cars.

[@harlemkiid149]

997 Turbo/Gt3 or 981 Cayman, those are the only 2dr Porsche's I'd entertain purchasing.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+Nicky_Projectz Sure. Everyone has their preference. The 997 Turbo and the 997 GT3 are beasts. Nice. I don't love the Cayman. Great drivers car but it looks awkward to me. Again, to each their own.

[@Dreadzedan]

997 is very boring looking to me even in its more extreme form, just wouldn't buy one for that reason, 991 is much much nicer looking in proportions and in the overall level of looking special. 997 looks like a car that cost 30k styling wise.

[@harlemkiid149]

Dreadzedan 997 in their extreme form aren't meant to look sexy they're meant to go fast around a track being that the 4.0 and Gt2RS are the most extreme 997. 991 do looks better but for the price and the 6spd availability the 997 is the best thing money can buy in the current diluted sports car arena.

[@qatrick]

1000th sub! :D

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks for subscribing!!!!!!!

[@fredsalfa]

The 991 is 6 years into the future over the 997 so there will be obvious improvements there !

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I guess I am stating the obvious there. What I should have made clear was that for some people, the improvements may not be worth the premium price point for a new 991 car. In other words, the 997.2 is a fantastic version of the 911 and offers a lot of performance if you buy one in good condition pre-owned.

[@yuribonalumi8053]

As soon as posible i wiil put my cars. Fiat panda 1st version vs 2nd version....hahahahahaha!!!

[@TCKe]

Get the older one with stick shift... That will be the one that collectors will want. PDK is just another old horrible gearbox in some years time

[@therealcrab]

very helpful, cheers!

[@go4384]

There are trims that perform better than a GTS. Have to go for whatever you can afford.

[@jeffreylurch7154]

no offense, but you dont sound excited about either of these cars, and nothing you said was different that a quick stat search. People want character. Tell us how you feel about the car, not what the brochure says.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks for the feedback. I will do better in future videos. That's helpful.

[@JBFXTS2K]

I disagree the proportions of the 991. It looks odd because it is so Huge . Everything looks right on the 997 while the 991 looks like it is the 997 that gained 20 percent weight. Rims looks too big on the 991 also . Also Alan is correct the rear lights are too small is what the problems is . Huge rear end with those narrow lights . Proportionally wrong! 997 was perfection!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+JBFXTS2K I will never say a bad thing about the 997. It is a great car. It still looks great to me. When I see it on the street, I still take a second look. Having said that, I still love the proportions of the 991 though. Proportions just look right to me. To each their own, right! Happy driving!

[@erojerisiz1571]

JBFXTS2K I totally agree with you. The 991 looks like a prototype for a non-911 to me because that's what it really is to me. Too heavy, too powerful. The 997 is the last true 911.

[@mortenberg2897]

Lucky you. Beatyfull cars. I hope to get a 911, but i live in Denmark where cars cost 3 times more (yes, i wrote 3!) due to taxes. I used Porsche configurator with the new 991.2 (carrera, nor even the S) and ended a total of 350000 dollars. No, there is not an extra zero added.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

OMG! 350000 dollars!!?! Wow! Incredible.

[@mortenberg2897]

Joe Hutchinson it is insane! Thank God (and Mazda) for creating the MX5 for people like me. I got the new ND and it is a stunningly good sportscar for the money 😉

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I have read about the MX5. They are fantastic cars. Good choice!

[@ak203]

I have a 997.2 C4S that I love, but will skip the 991 generation to 992.2 for my next one. The 991 interior is much nicer but....that PCM screen and its content are trash. We can talk horsepower and vectoring and all that, but unless you race every weekend, having that splendid new clear wide screen is what we live with day to day. I don't go 0-60 more than once or twice a month, but I need that screen every day. So the 991 isn't worth it, to me.

[@ArtYourMinds]

Beautiful car and such a beautiful landscape, do you live there? So much nature ..simply amazing!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thank you so much. Yes, this footage was shot not far from where I live. As you go north and away from New York city into the New York state counties, there are some beautiful areas to explore.

[@MrMacDog]

997.2 6MT, come on it's the real 911 here, stays true to everything the 911 represents! And that value... and that SOUND my God need to pick one up before they appreciate. Not a fan of the new 991 twin turbo sound

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

That's why I am glad I have the 991.1 with the non-turbo engine. Last of the kind! 997.2 with MT is a great set up.

[@-Grifter]

I just got a 997.2 C2S PDK. Although I would have loved a manual, I have nerve damage in my left foot so PDK was the only way forward for me. Being stuck in traffic a lot helps with an Auto also😊

[@navarrouk3487]

I simply hate the rear lights on the 991. other than that the car is beautiful. but, I rather have the 997.2

[@VirusTornado]

+Alan Navarro Have you seen one in real life? It's so classy and elegant. The more you look the more you like it.

[@navarrouk3487]

VirusTornado yes I have. the car it is amazing! the only flaw in my opinion is the rear lights.

[@VirusTornado]

Alan Navarro Lol, I personally think it's the sexiest part of the car hahahaha.

[@navarrouk3487]

VirusTornado apart from the rear lights, the rear end it is very nice!

[@VirusTornado]

Alan Navarro okay sure lol. What do you drive by the way?

[@villejuntunen5851]

Very nice work on the video. So enjoyable to watch when people put effort in filming and editing. Gotta love Porsches. Please watch some of P videos in my youtube channel.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+Ville Juntunen Thanks so much. I'll check out your videos too!

[@runslaTe]

just cant take my eyes off it

[@gusibrahim6961]

If I was looking for looks and sophistication I will go for an Aston Martin, but I enjoy driving, so for that I will not swap my gen.1 gt3 for anything else. We left the showroom together an we still together, when I am departed, my son will have something to remind of me every time he looks at her!!! 991 naaa

[@PabloVillaronga]

really cool

[@theSTEWiiiE]

Bought a 991 GTS!!!, i hope i made the right decision

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+theSTEWiiiE I believe you will be very happy with the 991 GTS!!!

[@theSTEWiiiE]

+Joe Hutchinson i only have 200 miles on my gts so far and I haven't floored it and wont for a little while, when you floor it, does it feel fast enough?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

+theSTEWiiiE First, make sure the engine is warmed up before flooring it (I realize that's obvious). The big thrust is high up in the revs. If you keep the revs up high, then yes, the car catapults you forward and is super quick. The GTS doesn't have the low down torque of a big V-8 so just kick down the gears or keep it Sports Plus and the car is quick. In Sports Plus, the PDK mapping will keep the engine revs in the peak power sweet spot.

[@VirusTornado]

+theSTEWiiiE The 991.1 has all its power in the high revs, if you floor it from 1500rpm in 2nd gear, you will feel the power coming once you go past 3-4000RPM! So that's just something to keep in mind. As Joe pointed out, Sports Plus is programmed to keep you very high in the rev range, so use it! Oh and it sounds insane at high revs!

[@erojerisiz1571]

Wrong decision imo 997>991

[@dougz2855]

991 is looking like 2 door Panamera outside and inside.

[@Dreadzedan]

991 is better looking to me, it has better proportions and looks more special over all. 997 looked very pedestrain too much so, imo