Porsche 992 GT3 MR Nürburgring Lap Time Analysis

[@mgcharoudin]

Some slow-mo shots we did earlier this year of the 992 GT3 MR kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWe0f6x3pq92esU

[@Bu1979]

Hey Misha was trying to contact you via Facebook ! Can you check your message ? Thank you 😊

[@christer8964]

Wow! Really impressive breakdown of the lap. Misha! Please make an interesting detail video about Circuit de la Sarthe track before the Le Mans, in this style.

[@hamzasherazi9334]

Always love these analysis videos. Congratulations to Manthey racing for this achievement. To think that this can potentially go even faster is pretty mental. I am sure a lot of GT3 owners will still get the kit. No one will say if only it was a second or two quicker then I'd consider it. Keyboard warriors maybe.

[@noduj]

It definitly looked like he could go faster in some corners aswell, there could be several reasons for this but still it was a good lap. I'll always watch the onboard of kevin estre on nürburgring, he's definitly the most exciting driver in a race!

[@gabb05]

the lap certainly didn't look super clean at various points, but it just shows how on the limit it was and how difficult/challenging it is to nail a 20k Nurburgring lap...congrats to the manthey team, I'm sure the RS version with active aero and stuff will just be more mindblowing.

[@brady_a981]

Can’t wait to see how much the new 3RS improves on the GT3. It’s sad that there won’t be a new 2RS but at least the 4RS is cool

[@test987665]

Has it actually been confirmed that there won't be a 992 GT2RS, or that's just rumors?

[@mgcharoudin]

​@@test987665 it's undecided yet.

[@brady_a981]

I’ve heard that it’s just a “most likely”, who knows though. Porsche knows there are customers that would jump on the chance to buy one.

[@augustortiz]

Wow no 2RS would be a real shame considering the new double wishbone front suspension. It would probably be much faster.

[@mr.phantic6185]

@@augustortiz The thing is, that the 992 GT2 RS would come at the end of the facelifted version. So not until 2026/7. At this time, the european emission regulation will be even worse. That is why.

[@ipanzerschrecku4732]

Estre took Grello from the back of the GT3 starting grid to nr 1 at the start of the recent N24 race before handing the car over, it was crazy took watch the onboard coverage alongside the ADAC race feed.

[@Tom.Walker]

Another amazing lap from Kevin.

[@iceb-akap77ice93]

Exhilarating lap. One of the best looking cars in there arsanel. Cheers for the excellent content again. ✌

[@christer8964]

Really nice breakdown of the lap with all that comparison.

[@weTHEpeopleRECON]

Jaw line on fleeeek!!! Loving the content at the moment

[@fabrb26]

9:45 That same exact corner i crashed my 92' Honda Civic... Did not lift either 🤣🤣

[@timlefherz525]

Olaf Manthey sagte selbst einmal, es gibt keine perfekte Runde, so oft du es auch versuchst. Also ja, bestimmt gibt’s noch die ein oder andere Hundertstel, aber diese Zeiten alleine durch Aero/Performancekits raus zu holen ist schon stark. Es zeigt aber auch, das jeder "normale" Porsche, ich denke mal auch dank den Einfluss von manthey, immer besser wird 👌

[@janmolenkamp3778]

God that guy can drive, it is a eye opener to see how he rings the neck of that Porsche , 37ks for that special op grade , not bad considering the R&D that goes into development. All&All a great reel off performance & thanks for the comments.🎉

[@ENGBriseB]

That was absolutely Stunning. Thanks Misha for explaining how it was achieved.

[@stronghold10a]

F.. impressive. The cornering speeds. Congrats to MR for this accomplishment

[@davidthegolfer]

Hi Misha, it was so good to see you eating proper food. I guess it’s going to take a lot of time to learn to eat, but then maybe to enjoy things that were difficult before. Exciting to experiment in the future. GT3 MR special car. You must have enjoyed that. Best to you and hugs to Pancake. ( missing her)

[@larrycable984]

having followed a v.fast 991.2 GTRSMR recently in a GT4RS - I can say that the KW MR suspension setup greatly adds to the stability of that platform at speed ... my belief is that this is the primary contributor to MR performance at the 'Ring - of course a "little extra" downforce does not hurt either!

[@xXxH8TERxXx]

its impressive AF how fast those professionals are compared to the normal drivers 💪🏻

[@micheltebraake7915]

Dit hadden we even gemist, de laptime analyse. Mooi hoe je de kleine verschillen laat zien.

[@augustotote]

Mind blowing clear man, muchas gracias for sharing your thoughts and through analysis, what a gent!

[@HansRuwurm]

so quick although he made small faults 😲😲

[@guypascua8848]

Additional performance without coding the warranty! Gold, Absolute Gold! Loved the breakdown, great to see you are healing well. Missing gratuitous good shots!

[@joetacchino4470]

Just under 5 seconds faster on a 415 second lap is 1.1%. To me, that’s within margin of error for all kinds of variables including track grip, temp, driver error, etc. Not trying to discredit MR but would love to see if that really held up over say, a stint on one fuel tank.

[@fabiobarwald243]

Always cool to hear your opinion on such things👍👍

[@Felix-je7yq]

I also think it maybe could have been a bit faster and I would have prefered Lars to drive, but in the end it was a phenomemal lap and it proved that the Manthey Kit improves Performance and that is the main key imo.

[@fullsendsimracing]

There were some places where he obviously could've made up more time, and after pointing that out in the comments, people didn't think he could have 5 seconds to find. Glad to see you acknowledging that, Kevin also responded to a question on that, that he went as fast as he could on the giving conditions but he felt the lap wasn't perfect

[@Swewic]

Mind blowing performance now a days from a ”base GT3/MR” not even a RS … and its not super expensive either

[@mdub048]

he has a big spin up at 0:50 that lost a few tenths if not a full second. Another great video. 😍

[@mattyoz0]

Full second? 😆

[@CITRUS--]

no, that is not a second😂

[@FNFleExZ]

They drove the car two times, because the first time wasn’t faster, than the original gt3. But it is still a great achievement for the driver! 🕵🏻‍♂️

[@pancho8334]

Very good and exact analysis as usual Misha! i agree that the car could achieve 1 or 2 seconds faster lap times. But 4 seconds is a BIG margin over the stock car.

[@airbusxwb2047]

Great analysis Misha!

[@ricardofigueroa6754]

Misha you look great man ! Keep up the work!

[@elcasho]

Those analysis sections were glorious! moar!

[@aceboogie8561]

It coasted after the high speed brake slide he’s a lot more careful probably so he didn’t throw away the lap or because it’s truly 3-4 seconds faster with less mistakes

[@alanzyoutube]

Misha also anyone else in the comments, what car would you like to take on the Nürburgring? it doesn't have to be road legal! For me I think it would be the Ferrari 333SP.

[@christianb.4385]

Aston Martin DBR9 anyone ?

[@mgcharoudin]

Zonda R

[@alexhndr]

2009 Honda NSX-GT GT500

[@sampayne9663]

Awesome awesome lap and great analysis. You’d be much appreciated on the f1 grid! , but where be the 993, coolest car you’ve ever done vids with, would love to see more

[@Fab84NL]

Briliant car with a briliant driver. I’m not experienced but What I noticed What could have been faster is @0:50 of your video, car seems to shift on his own or is “stuck” at the limiter or so

[@TheTechnoaddict]

What a lap🤯 insanely fast for a street legal car👏

[@Lewmer.]

It's impressive, but it's not quite the sub-7 up impressive :D Great analysis here, thanks for covering it team!

[@blxtothis]

It mystifies me that even now, with the most technologically advanced and performance laden examples of automobile manufacture that not one supplier of windscreen glass can come up with a solution to reflections in bright sunlight despite so many years of evolution. This cheeses me off in my humble road car when navigating at speed but on a performance beast like these track monsters that’s ridiculous! If I want to admire my shiny black dash and it’s plethora of grills and scoops, I’ll pull over and park!

[@tiagom.2706]

That engine was seriously squeezed!!

[@yeahnahsweetas]

I think some of these guys see the few times he touched the limiter as some kind of mistake.. I think the only mistake with shifting was the split second he went to 2nd in Hatzenbach, the other times it just wouldn't be worth it to grab the next gear as he would have had to change straight back down again which is just giving himself more things to get exactly right

[@philippebeinaerts]

If I would actually be in the market for a GT3, I wouldn't really care about a couple of seconds off the laptime because I'm not a demigod driver. But it's still an awesome, awesome achievement and great to watch

[@velvetjones1856]

It makes me wonder if I bought a GT3 and took European delivery, could I bring by Manthey for the MR kit to be added? Or do that through the Porsche Individual program?

[@L2-0mni]

the cornering speed at scwhedenkreuz is utterly insane

[@DanteHTID]

Mindblowing how a tiny slide for a fraction of seconds can be that detrimental to a lap time

[@lucazanoni9168]

Hi Misha, I'm 100% they tuned the engine with a non-OPF exhaust, the car is doing 282 km/h at the end of the straight line instead of 279 km/h of the stock car, this is absolutely not possible with that much aero upgrades even with Kevin behind the wheel, I tuned a new GT3 last week in my company and got + 40hp with exhaust + tune, that's the only way to make that possibile. Ok the new tarmac but if compare the speed before you see higher speed in the MR which is crazy.

[@mgcharoudin]

I wouldn't be surprised. 991.2 RS MR was also non-OPF model.

[@almillin3207]

So the Sport Auto 20.6 km lap was 6:51.54 which is 0.47 sec faster than the 2017 Performante lap which was on TrofeoR's not Cup2R's.

[@martinzoellner6115]

Fuchsröhre 267 ...nicht schlecht... Respekt!👍

[@joaoluistavares6046]

I like Manthey-Racing. I think it was a great performance.

[@Emil_Bucholc]

Cool video 👍🏻

[@Helios1733]

Nice comparison Misha; it would be great to have full videos in parallel to see where differences are. Can it be done?

[@turkishexpress]

I don't know much about car racing but in terms of motorcycle racing, temperature of the track could change someone's lap times by nearly a second off on a 5km course. So on a long track like this, should it not make a pretty big difference in terms of times? I mean comparing two cars that were tested in totally different days.

[@DinoGrahovic]

Yeahh,no question that the MR is faster but Kevin is a beast. Going 300 over a grass on NR is like Titanium balls mode.

[@mgcharoudin]

it was not 300 tho 😁

[@DinoGrahovic]

@@mgcharoudin i know but even if it was 100 it's ballsy

[@DonLee1980]

4 seconds over a 7 minute lap is not really something we can say for sure is an improvement. Surely equivalently 1 second difference over a 1:45 lap at Spa in an F1 car is significant difference compared to your peers in the same qualifying session. But here it is a much longer track, different weather conditions, different tarmac conditions. Simply by doing 6 laps on the same day may lead to a 4 second improvement compared to just doing 2 flying laps. For sure we can see the GT3 MR lap was pushing harder. The previous GT2RS MR, however it was quite clear the car was transformed from a great track car, to a godly track car.

[@ericship8383]

I don’t think you realize 4 secs is a big difference

[@kaiwang1782]

Might be a dumb question, what type of alignment do they run for time trial? If it's stock I'd imagine it could be quicker!

[@mgcharoudin]

it is definitely not stock

[@geobob3793]

992 (non mr) is faster than 991.2 (non mr) and mr versions the new is slower than previous gen, it must be faster, i mean, it have to i dont know I judge only the number, the job overall is fantastic with those kits What is your thoughts Misha, is just the mr kit a lit bit more "poor" compared to 991.2 mr kit?

[@martinchapman2168]

Good video

[@captialstupidity2187]

Hey in one of the first corners the car went from 3rd gear to 0? To 3rd and from the audio it sounds as a clutch slipped or something? Something weird that I spotted. Other than that amazing video as always.

[@nicolasvillanustre2140]

hi Misha here Nick from the US, any idea where we can get the MR performance enhancement here in America? thanks and great videos

[@portalracingcanarias6608]

very very fast nice Porsche

[@lordsnoop623]

amazing record pal. hey, homie your face is still swollen on the right side! great progress anyway!

[@aurelius9640]

Misha, can we expect the 992 GT3 RS going a few seconds faster than this MR 992 GT3? If so, I don't see any more room for a 992 GT3 RS MR kit. How do you see it?

[@NicholasZak]

Fucking Impressive to say the least.

[@blxtothis]

23kmh faster because he’s on a bike, I used to race 10 mile time trials at over 26mph when I was a schoolboy. Yes miles not kilometres, so that 23 kWh doesn’t sound like such a massive speed differential.

[@alanzyoutube]

Hi Misha, Just wondering if the person driving this GT3 has more Nürburgring laps than you, what I mean is, you have a lot of laps so have you been approached to do any of these "record laps" (I know your current medical issue would have prevented this time), would you perhaps be able to go faster in this car than this driver did, I know track temp and wind direction, but I am curious.

[@mgcharoudin]

I wouldn't be :) not enough experience yet

[@Amarjit_Singh]

Hey Misha, I'm really sorry for asking this again but the Nürburgring official website haven't updated the M4 CSL lap time, neither they have uploaded the video on their KZbin channel, however the same for the GT3 MR has updated, which makes me think about the CSL laptime whether it was a record for a particular category of cars or was it just a manufacturer record? Looking forward to seeing your response.

[@mgcharoudin]

good question, I'll ask NR

[@Amarjit_Singh]

@@mgcharoudin Thanks for the response.

[@larrycable984]

I *thought* the M4 CSL "lap record" was either for "fastest M car" or "fastest production saloon" ...

[@Amarjit_Singh]

@@larrycable984 It's definitely the fastest M car at the Nürburgring but fastest saloon car, probably not with 2 doors, at the very best it's a mid range car considering categories at the Nürburgring, however won't be surprised if it gets categorised as a sportscar given an E class coupé is a sportscar as per the official Nürburgring website.

[@tkmwong020480]

Well it seems like a similar Lap Time to the Official Lap Time of a normal unmodified 992 GT3 driven by Porsche Driver Lars Kern. His time was 6:55.34. Pretty sure a MR version should and Can go Faster than this, just depends by how much Faster. He seems to be more cautious in the Driving in this instance.

[@Amarjit_Singh]

The MR is 4s faster than the standard car and given the upgrades that the standard car got, the time difference is quite appropriate.

[@mgcharoudin]

you're talking about Sport Auto laptime

[@tkmwong020480]

@@mgcharoudin I checked the Official Nurburgring Lap Times. Kevin Estre did a similar time in the 991.2 GT3 RS with Manthey Racing Performance Kit making 6:54.34. I'm pretty sure Lars Kern is currently the Fastest Porsche Test Driver for All the Porsche models, if He sat in this modified version of 992 GT3 with Manthey Racing, probably will be a lot Faster up to 6:50 mark (maybe).

[@Apexjuha]

Notice how digital the throttle-brake usage is. Mostly just 0% or 100%. Very little feathering with both. And even in places where you see some throttle control it is mostly just like two stage - just a little wait/hesitation at 50% and then quickly up to 100%. For a driver, I wonder if it is that enjoyable to have such a digital behaviour. Again, to drive a slow car fast can be as fun as to drive a fast car slow/fast.

[@counti41]

Would love to see how my little mx5 stacks up one day.

[@Keo]

8:56 they both lifted, what are you saying ? anyway, enjoyed the video as always, have a good day

[@NoName-st6zc]

That Speed through Schwedenkreuz though...

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

Hate to bring up this obvious question, but are these times on the ring even fair with drivers that specialize on this track? What if GM hired Estre and he decided to go slower in their cars to keep another German manufacturer on top? If Manthey is the most extreme track version, then what is a RS version Porsche?

[@mgcharoudin]

GM would hire their own driver, Kevin is not allowed to drive other cars :) RS model still needs to be released

[@mugdays]

Looking at the footage, it appears Lars Kern is not the fastest Porsche factory driver, which I had always assumed to be case.

[@ryanpuryear]

Not to be that guy, but I expected more than 4 seconds. To your point though, different driver. I mean every generation is more race car too...not leaving a lot of room for Manthay to do racecar things

[@Amarjit_Singh]

If you consider the upgrades that the standard car got then 4secs of difference is quite appropriate.

[@mgcharoudin]

​@@Amarjit_Singh true

[@alpha-cf2oi]

lol more than 4 seconds? u know we aint talking about some stock VW golf here but about a car thats alrdy designed to go fast round the track ALMOST flawlessly. and still 4s per round is A LOT (its basically 1s per

[@ryanpuryear]

@@alpha-cf2oi Look at other MR cars to Mischa’s point and then consider this is not the RS model, then consider it is a 13 mile course

[@ryanpuryear]

@@Amarjit_Singh True, it is not all the bells and whistles. Wonder if Porsche neutered a bit (with them now official performance parts)as to not step on RS toes.

[@einautofan6685]

Who needs more than a sub 7 min Porsche?😉😎👌

[@MrDOZA28]

Looked like the car jumped out of gear briefly early in the lap through Hatzenbach 🤔

[@MW-uy3np]

Buyers asks....does it have any overrevs? lol. Great lap

[@TML34]

The only problem I can see is the car is a bit too stiff. You can hear it skipping around on the bumpy stuff.

[@wareidav]

"God like".... Yes

[@joaorodrigues-dy9rm]

But its slower than 6:49. Why is this a record???? Help!

[@FireEye-zd4fm]

What happened at 25 seconds into the lap at Hatzenbach ? Looks like he shifted into neutral for a second.

[@mgcharoudin]

didn't notice, interesting

[@billnorblat4047]

2 seconds Driver balls. 3 seconds Manhtey

[@blizy--7695]

the speed is in km right

[@zDialecticChaos]

porsche is a fucking amazing

[@ghostridertom]

With the seat the car is not road legal, right?

[@mgcharoudin]

good point

[@franzhuber7361]

SCREAMING

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

How much quicker is the track due to the upgrades to the asphalt?

[@mgcharoudin]

half a sec tops

[@fredericfraser2618]

Le gt4 RS MR il ira plus vite que la gt3 MR je pense

[@mgcharoudin]

who knows, but doubt it

[@mostshady]

Misha I follow you for quite a time and I like you and your content. Just for you to know : For me it is a reason to stop watching (this) Video (s) when there comes an ad brake with 2x (!) 20 (!!) second ads I can't jump.. 😑 I can totally understand that you need to get money with your Vids. Just wanted to let you know.. Take care

[@skrypka]

Rock am Ring is happening.. 😂😂

[@marcol6268]

195-200 Hatzenbackbogen. Yea....I'm out.

[@antoniobatista8009]

What you have against Rock am Ring?

[@mgcharoudin]

mess

[@Tryvin]

😯😲😲😲

[@matqr6441]

Misha, and when will we see you in such a car at the nurburgring? ;)

[@mgcharoudin]

when I get one🤷🏻‍♂️

[@matqr6441]

@@mgcharoudin So we are waiting, maybe something will fall into your hands soon 😀

[@Becausefamilycar]

Porsche can piss money up a wall, the could buy the ring if the wanted too. Don’t know why they haven’t

[@aurelius9640]

What about the tires? Were the same brand/type used for both laps?

[@HUMC5]

Both Cup 2 R.

[@aurelius9640]

@@HUMC5 thx👍

[@btk7834]

13:13 typical american car driver

[@TheLambo123254]

wow