Porsche 993 911 C2 : Tim's Enthusiast Garage S2 E5

[@raychaney6531]

What a great video appreciating the unique beauty of the 993. 1995 993 C2 Polar Silver PSS10, Fabspeed performance exhaust, cold air intake. San Diego East County

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Ray Chaney thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Literally comments like this are the fuel to keep going. Enjoy your 993!! Polar silver has a beautiful blueish cast to it that makes it truly special. Cheers!

[@zeusmojo9301]

You know Tim, I've watched this video over 50 times man and its still a love story from you to the 993.Now im hooked on these gems and now have one thanks to you and I luv it..

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

zeus mojo yes!! Fantastic that this video took you over the edge. Thanks so much for sharing and thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I do hope now that you have the car you will still watch the channel from time to time 😀. Cheers!

[@flat6enthusiast619]

The 993 is my favorite 911 of all time so thanks for the video! It is really great! To me, it isn't just the end of aircooled engines, it is also the end of a philosophy in term of engineering and design. The car is compact and its curves remind a lot of all the previous Porsche cars, from the 356 and the 901 to the widebody race cars (911s and other Le Mans prototypes). Plus the car is bulletproof. This car was real a gift from Porsche to all the enthusiasts. Ferry Porsche died in 1998, the same year as the 993. I think that there is nothing more to say...

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Flat6enthusiast a gift from Porsche to the true enthusiasts. I wish I had said that. Beautiful and accurate sentiment here. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Hope you subscribe the channel. Loads more cars to come. Cheers!

[@flat6enthusiast619]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage Already suscribed :). Now, I will watch all your other videos.

[@kevinbodman1011]

There is just something special about air-cooled Porsches.I have a 930 that I have been making it my own for the last 20 years.Haha almost where I want her.Thanks for the cool vid.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Kevin Bodman thanks so much for taking the time to comment. Yes. Air cooled Magic is real . Cherish that 930 it is one of the best! If you could sub my channel that would make my day. Cheers!

[@kevinbodman1011]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage You got it.

[@royramdeen8864]

What a beautiful car. The only car i would ever want to own. Just classic in every way.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Roy Ramdeen thanks for watching and your comment! This 911 is iconic in every way. Subscribe for more. Cheers!

[@artmchugh5644]

When we looked for a 911 we didn't have 993 $$ so we went carrera 3.2 how do you think we did? ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2irZ4doe7yDkKM

[@ftlaud911]

Great video. 993 c4s owner and love mine. I had to have the wide hips. It corners like it's on rails. Wish I could afford a TT version, but happy to have a piece of Porsche history in my garage.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

FTLAUD 911 I love the C4S. Def a bargain in many ways. It’s funny how big hipped the regulars looks now after the 996/997. The C4S looks super ripped. Love it . Please subscribe the channel if you would be so kind. Cheers!

[@thof8287]

993s are unbelievable how clean they sound when you drive them compared to other air cooled cars. I've worked for a couple Porsche shops, and driven every generation 911. 993s are beautiful in every aspect. BBS E88s I think would look better than the LMs.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Tr Hof I think I agree on wheels :) thanks for watching. You have impeccable taste. Thanks for taking the time to comment

[@zeusmojo9301]

what a pleasure listening to this guy Tim explain the 993 in a true poetic almost romantic way, hes so spot on. Thank you I have now added a 993 to my growing passion for this car after I watched your presentation some weeks ago.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks so much for your kind words !

[@LucoreAuto]

As old school hot rodders all these models and submodels are complicated! Wait... so its a 911 right? But what KIND of 911? Keep up the good work!

[@detonator2112]

Amazing video. Amazing car. Best looking Porsche ever made. That's not even debatable, it's perfect. Cheers!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks for watching ! Please subscribe for more

[@franzhuber7361]

When do people learn that Porsche videos do not work out with music? Anyway, thanks for sharing and your love for the 993!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Franz Huber thanks for watching !

[@leonardoluc6362]

Special the 1998 2S is epic & the year Ferdinand RIP

[@ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣΔΗΜΗΤΡΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ-ρ7χ]

GREAT VIDEO!I BELIEVE THAT 996 IS A BETTER CAR FROM THE 993 OVERALL,WITH THE 997 THE BEST OF THEM ALL.MECHANICALLY AND LOOKS.BUT IN THE END,FOR A PETROLHEAD ,CHOOSING IS SOMETHING OBJECTIVE SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPORTS CARS AND THE EMOTIONS THEY GIVE YOU.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ ΔΗΜΗΤΡΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ I agree with you. It is subjective. For the price it is hard to not fall in love with the 996. It has the performance to be sure. Thanks for watching and for your comment !

[@zeusmojo9301]

Tim I was lucky enough to buy mine with the immobiliser deleted as for any other bad points none what so ever like you said a beautiful perfected classic Porsche. Thanks again from down under.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

zeus mojo the immobilizer on most cars from this era is dreadful. What a horrible idea that was. These cars have few negatives and are truly the best of the breed. Cheers!

[@titlewinner]

Ended up buying a 993 after watching this video, thanks!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Michael Kelly excellent! That is one decision you will be very happy with every time you drive it. The are brilliant cars. Thanks for watching

[@landom9080]

Great video.. like how you showed the car being driven on the road from various angles. Most folks just have the camera in their face. While some of that is important to everyone's channel, most of us want to see the car on the road. Especially modified 993s.. or any 911 for that matter. It's what makes them even more special. Really enjoyed the flow of the video.. and you are spot on. I own a C2 993 (96) and C4S 997.2.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

You own two of the best. The future has next to zero cars that offer a true enthusiast experience. Maybe the Lotus Emira. Hold on to them ! Thanks for your feedback, I would love it if you would subscribe. It really does help

[@landom9080]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage forgot to hit that button.. I am with you on future vehicles. Tough to look forward to anything with the push for everything going green.. and automatic..

[@beukemann4119]

Such a dope episode!!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Nicholas Beukemann stoked!!

[@fkporsche1]

Great looking 911. My favorite model 993 out of all other models. Cheers 🦅🦅🇺🇸

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Frank Kwok thanks so much. Yes I agree. Love the 993 C2 . Cheers !!

[@hassannaqvi4512]

On point... Good video and now there is a seed planted in my head longing for a 993 😁

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Glad I could help. Keep me posted if you buy one!

[@std882]

Gorgeous. I have to say, even though it's not a S model with the wider hips, it's just as gorgeous. Somehow, the base Carrera seems the most pure and authentic. Congratulations.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

I agree. Thanks for watching !

[@Rennthusiast]

I love, love, love my polar silver 993, and one of my favorite things to do on life is go on solo extended road trips in it. I specifically chose a 95 to avoid the immobilizer and the SAI check engine light issues. One of the best cars I’ve ever owned.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Bavarian Enthusiast TV it’s an all time great! Your car is beautiful, I had seen it one of your vids. Cheers and thanks for watching!

[@Rennthusiast]

Tim's Enthusiast Garage thanks for watching! Your vid on the 993 is great and your channel is part of the reason I decided to fire up my own.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Bavarian Enthusiast TV that is fantastic to hear. If you are on IG follow me there, I usually post about shows I am attending etc, it would be great to enthuse together some time :)

[@Rennthusiast]

Tim's Enthusiast Garage I’ll look you up. Not sure where you’re located but I’m in NC. I love hitting up Porsche events in the western NC mountains but not afraid to travel great distances for the sake of the experience and the footage. Just got back from Werks Reunion Amelia Island, FL, in fact. Did a video on it. Not gonna link hijack your comments, but if you want to see it it’s in my recents. Sick cars. Absolutely stunning.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Bavarian Enthusiast TV I’m in Ohio. I do a show for 80s and 90s cars called MotorVice. Had one planned for Virginia Beach in May but Corona has cancelled those plans. I will likely attend LUFT and really enjoy traveling. I do the dragon and Biltmore every year and hope to be there in June or July. Amelia looked great this year. I had planned to not attend just because this time of year is hectic with business and I have just stated a large Lotus build project

[@heiligerm]

After i had many of other 911/914/944S and Boxsters, i found a 1996 varioram Cabrio polarsilver/Leather black with only 59.000 miles, US Car here in Germany. I drives like a new car. Best regards to you from Germany Michael

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Michael, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Germany is a lovely place to spend time in a 993! Congrats on your find. It’s an experience to drive one of those cars. It sounds like you found an amazing example. Enjoy it! Cheers!

[@thenoblepixel7586]

Nice one Tim. It's good to see more car enthusiast KZbinrs in Ohio!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

The Noble Pixel thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Spread the word and subscribe if you would be so kind. Lot’s of great stuff coming ! Cheers!

[@spaulagain]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage just shared with my buddies. Got my Golf R tinted at Performance Auto Spa not too long ago. Great video!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Simon Paul thanks for sharing the video! I really appreciate that. Enjoy your Golf R. I posted a video of my mk6 R back in season 1 . Cheers!

[@beardedgarage]

good stuff. The emissions on the later 993s are a PITA. I've compared the 95 to the 97 and although no varioram in the earlier one, it's just simpler.

[@johnsccc]

I bought a 993 after watching this, thanks man 😊. My 5th Porsche but definitely my favourite, I’ll never part with it... I have a dark blue w/ grey leather 993 Carrera cab with 40k miles. Must admit I’d love the bbs alloys you have, they look wonderful ❤️

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Wow! Congrats on your new 911 and thanks so much for watching !!

[@deanscott1134]

Very informative...first time I think I've ever heard a car be called 'voluptuous'

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Dean Scott and it is voluptuous. Those hips. That bottom! :). Cheers and thanks so much for watching

[@deanscott1134]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage rims made it look as good as it did 25 years ago

[@Sailingbill1]

She's pretty.....! My first Porsche was a 1999 996 Cabrio, horrible car, but I really liked it. Now I have the 991.2 Turbo and is incredible, BUT the 993 and pre- are THE iconic's of Porsche

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

991 are amazing

[@jaimedltv3717]

😍 the sound it's like a videogame

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

All the best cars are! Thanks so much for watching.

[@CellarCars]

Last of the air cooled! Great job

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Cellar Cars thanks so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch.

[@edwinthomas618]

Great video Tim. I love the 993. My 2nd to my 88' 928 S4. What happened to the Goatee? Your more cooler with it. lol

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Edwin Thomas thanks so much for Watching and for your comment. The beard is usually a winter fixture. I’ll be thinning it out soon. As you know I am a big fan of the 928 S4. Cheers!!

[@timsullivan3921]

Penultimate; means second last. The 993 is not the second last air cooled 991 as you say at the start of the video, it was the last air cooled 911 especially the VarioRam model. Sorry to be a pedant!

[@timsullivan3921]

I have a 993 Varioram.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Sorry to be that guy but I used it correctly AND responded to a similar comment right at launch. This car was introduced followed by the final and most glorious 993 ... the 993tt

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

tim sullivan congrats on your vario ram. They are fantastic cars. So much charm and performance

[@timsullivan3921]

I do like the 993, mine is black too and although a water cooled GT3 out performs it when I looked at swapping the 993 for a 997 GT3 I preferred to drive the 993. I would say the 993 is the model, targas, turbos, C4S and RSs etc are all variants or badges within the model range, not different models lol!!

[@matharris7673]

A manual 997S is the best in my opinion, modern enough with more power and still 911 looks. Small and organic to drive.

[@caknaus]

Hi Tim. I love the turbo front bumper. I have a 1994 C2 in black with marble grey leather here in Switzerland and I love it. I'm going to start gathering parts for the front bumper swap soon. Silver BBS LMs have been on my list for a few years now, they look great! What dimensions? 8.5x18 et 56 10X18 et 65 ? Thanks!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

I’ll have to check the et but yes 18x8.5 and 18x10

[@obi9065]

Beautiful and compact. The new 911 is becoming long, like the M4 has become. When do automakers decide to stop making cars longer?

[@chriscalder103]

Hey Tim can you please share what exhaust/cat/muffler and air box you had in this video? Sounds pretty nice!! My 993 is turning up from the UK in a few weeks, can't wait!! NZ so we're RHD :) Your comments have made me reconsider some of my thoughts of changing the interior and maybe keeping it original. Looks like you have the RS handbrake and gearshift knob though?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks for watching and congrats on your 911. The shift knob and hand brake handle were factory options ( there were literally dozens ) and changing these can make a huge tactile change. In terms of original options, they are all coded on the options sticker so hold on to those bits in case you ever sell! This car had a k&n filter, stock air box and sport exhaust with larger tips. These aircooled cars are surprisingly sonorous even with factory exhaust parts. This is also one of the few cars where removing the mufflers still sounds amazing and tuned.

[@scotrburns2764]

Love the video

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks so much for watching !

[@satoshinakamoto3342]

The air cooled made some noise for sure

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Shantanu Inamdar some of the best noise!!

[@johnsmalls4856]

Tim I'm between a 993 cab tip or a 996 c4s 6sp any advice will be appreciated. Both are in my price range. Thanks

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

John Smalls the tip in the 993 era cars really changes the experience quite a bit. While it does feel like a “classic” 911 the transmission isn’t quite up to the true sporting and raw nature of the car. The 993 is arguably more timeless. Perhaps more collectible long term but the 996 is starting to come into it’s own. As far as the 996 six speed those are about as good as you can get. Faster than the 993, more modern, more solid in terms of chassis strength, and absolutely at the bottom of the depreciation curve. I think you would probably enjoy the 996 more.

[@maxmeier532]

When i look at the prices only I really wonder about the price gaps (almost as big as the 993 front hood panel gaps, zing!) between the same models. You could get a 993 c4 for 60 grand or 120 grand, and from just looking at the pictures or the description you wouldnt know the difference. So the question is, how do you as a buyer find a fair price?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Max Meier great question. I think for me it’s originality and condition. The irony is sometimes the more expensive car is the wrong choice. Ideally you want to find a car with all original panels and paint and then sort of microscope the service history. The C4S is a pretty fantastic car but in my opinion really is hard to justify an over 85k price tag for one. I would also say that in terms of negotiation I am usually pretty ruthless. If you are a buyer and confident in your ability to buy know that this makes you a rarity. There are a lot of tire kickers and few actual buyers. I have bought many cars listed for 100 for the 70s and cars listed in the 50s for 35 or so. Find the car that you Know To be the best and then negotiate the best deal.

[@GarthLovesTRAVEL]

i love this channel!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Garth Loves CARS thanks so much!!

[@hollywinsman9464]

It's beautiful

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks so much for watching !

[@TheSimonhammond]

Loving the video, also digging the Citroen CX...........is it a turbo?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Simon Hammond it is a CX gti turbo 2. I will be doing a video on it as well. It’s very ... unique. Lol. Hilariously quirky. Actually much quicker than I thought it would be.

[@TheSimonhammond]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage A Sheep with Wolf power! I look forward to the video.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Simon Hammond if you haven’t already please subscribe ! Cheers !!

[@armin1971]

Always enjoying your videos. I´m in between buying a 993 or a Maserati Gransport. I saw you testing both of these cars. Please let me know what you think in terms of driveability. What would you prefer?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

armin1971 right now on value and collectibility the 993 is valued much higher than the GS. I have had an absolutely stellar ownership experience with the GS and in general have had better ownership experiences with modern Porsches vs aircooled so, for me this would be an easy win for the GS. It’s less than half the price right now and a bit faster, sounds more flamboyant and is an amazing all arounder. Check out my video on my GranSport! Cheers and thanks for watching.

[@armin1971]

Thanks Tim, i´m driving a 1971 911 at the moment and want to swap for something new. Watched your Maserati GS video 20 times already...:-) At the moment i have in mind the 993, the 997 and the Maserati 4200 (or Gransport). Greetings Armin

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

@@armin1971 100% get the GranSport over a 4200. All the little changes add up. Porsches , interestingly, have been the most unreliable brand in my ownership history. The 996 HOWEVER has been stellar soooo... just consider all this.

[@davekizerian]

armin1971 please don’t overlook the 996 if you’re looking at the 997... there are a bunch of good options in the 996, and the prices can’t be beat. For the cost of a 993 you’ll be in decent 996 Turbo range. Or you can look at one of my favorites, the C4S. I have a ‘99 C2 with 157,000 miles, and have put 26,000 miles on it in 1.5 years, and after my initial maintenance splurge (IMS, RMS, AOS, Clutch, Tires) it has been flawless. I’m still into it less than $18000, but if I had it to do again, I’d have bought lower miles, done the same maintenance and been under $25k

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Dave Kizerian I am a huge advocate of the 996. I actually find it more charming and certainly more accessible than the 997. Great cars all around!

[@jeansalamat8720]

I am a consultant, should I get a 996 or 993? Do I need to dig deeper on who I am before I decide on one?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

The last part of this question is pretty much right on. It really depends on value. If you value classic car connection the 993 is a must. If lower cost maintenance and all out performance of a more modern chassis is important then the 996 or even 997 is your best bet. Cheers and thanks for watching !

[@007clownfish]

If you could just have one ... 993 or S4s?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

007clownfish s4S not even a second to think about it

[@007clownfish]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage good to know I always wanted a 993 but the prices rocketed; I always loved lotus too, so I picked up an S4s last year :)

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

007clownfish biggest things to make sure are correct for optimal experience: front suspension bushings. Exhaust manifold and exhaust. If those things are well sorted it is an absolutely fantastic cars. The 993 is great but way less special

[@leonardoluc6362]

2S turbo body without the turbo is the rarest only built 1997 /98 last year of the aircooled, lowest production #’s, lighter than 4S, rear wheel drive beats the 4S for the pure enthusiast drive for sure.

[@ErnieBerckman]

I love mine

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Enjoy it !

[@henryatkinson1479]

Still would take a 996 over it any day. People grossly overpay for the 993s.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

They have settled a little. The 996 is a brilliant car to be sure. I find it amusing people are still so bothered by the lights . Cheers and thanks for watching

[@henryatkinson1479]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage Thanks for the vid! If money were no object, I cant say I wouldnt consider a 993, but personally I love my early (4/98 build) 996. Feels every bit as analogue and is a joy to drive and work on.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

@@henryatkinson1479 in comparison with the 991 and 991.2 the 996/997 absolutely feels analogue, almost classic!! Cheers, enjoy your 996

[@202One]

BBS wheels ✌

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

The best or nothing :)

[@markgranigan3457]

Watch glashutte?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

It’s a Heuer Silverstone

[@zeusmojo9301]

The 996 fantastic ugly plastic water cooled and lets you pretend you are experiencing the 911 feeling. 993 and under is real 911 air cooled get real its like wearing a fake Rolex and thinking you are the part.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Interesting. Air cooled cars certainly have a lovely flavour. The 996, 997 are extremely capable and are clearly evolutions of the 911 motif. The fake Rolex analogy is a bit much as these cars are all Porsche. Even the 993 tt uses watercooled heads. At some point evolution demanded newer tech. Even as Rolex left their modified valjoux movements for new in house movements, the watches have gotten better through time. A vintage day date pairs very well with a new Yacht Master or Milgauss. In the same way no true Porsche fan would be ashamed to have a 964 Carrera or 993 parked astride a 996 3.6 or C4S. Drive a 69-73 and then a late 80s CS and you are likely to think that the 2.7 in the ‘69 has a magic that the 3.2 car lacks. In many ways it does but they are both lovely Porsche cars. Each car has stronger points and weaker points to deny the heritage is simply not understand it at all. A Rolex is a Rolex, a Porsche is a Porsche. Thanks for watching!

[@MemoryLaneCinema]

huge fan of the 996?`Ehm? That car is hated by people who know porsche. Got to be an american thing

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

MemoryLaneCinema amusing. An American thing? Even before I posted my 996 videos Catchpool, Harris and Bovingdon were all on about what undervalued cars the 996 were. Hated by people who know Porsche? Mate, I recommend you try one out. There is a reason values are on their way UP. Quicker than 993, greater chassis rigidity, and objectively even the styling is starting to look a bit pretty if I dare say so myself. Are the 996 era cars the best 911s? Certainly not and I am not making that statement. In fact in this video I am simply saying that the 993 is at the top of the heap when it comes to the aircooled era. In much the same way the water cooled era cars are benefiting from evolution. That being said one of the things that is driving people into 996 ownership is how LARGE the new 911 is. The 996 deserves it’s place in the 911 lineage and on the plus side points of view like the one in your comment will keep values lower than they rightfully deserve to be. I appreciate you watching and your opinion. In the end I guess it comes down to the old saying, “theres a butt for every seat”. Cheers!

[@MemoryLaneCinema]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage mate? I have driven a 996. I have owned a 993 4s, 997 s and now the new gt3 so I think I know what I am talking about. Been a lifelong 911-fan. In Europe the 996 is hated. Most for the looks and looks matters!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

MemoryLaneCinema enjoy what you drive ! I don’t personally find the looks that off putting. I own and run everything from a Lotus Esprit to a 190 2.3-16 to an Alfa 4C so perhaps my interests are too broad to have a proper 911 opinion. I have owned 15 or more 993 , about half that number in 996 and 6 964 over the years. If I had to pick an absolute favourite 911 of all time it would be either a friends 1969 2.7 911S or a 991.1 GT3 RS. I have done several thousand miles in 991 GT3 RS including time at Both Nurburgring and On mountain roads in Europe and that car is just the absolute definition of “911” . I have had some amazing drives in 996 c2 and gt3 so it’s hard for me to hate it. I quite like the front and rear treatment when I see them going down the road. They are starting to look “period correct” inho. Again, i SOOO appreciate the input and dialogue. Would love it if you subscribed. Cheers!