Porsche Panamera Turbo: There's No Such Thing As Too Much Power - Carfection

[@hmackprotection1]

That rear Wing is flat out cool af

[@p00pie]

It's because it's German.

[@zeroman614]

Soon2Be Fulfilled until you get the repair bill

[@TheBlahstudios]

Everyone: "We don't want buttons!" Porsche: "okay, no buttons" Everyone: "but we want buttons"

[@snakerb]

Ad Mill yeah, the old complaint was "too many buttons" but now the new complaint is "give us back our buttons"

[@tonycool100]

in fact, I think the previous button design is unique and ideal if you have owned the car for a week and longer.

[@davidowen5425]

@@tonycool100 I've had my Panamera for 10 months and once your used to the set up its very easy and works very well but it does take a few months for muscle memory to kick in. Its worth the effort because it looks gorgeous.

[@pd5156]

It is a some sort of button tho, ppl hate piano black.

[@AndorRadnai]

I would rather have too many buttons than a screen…

[@mrlilmatt123]

Porsche aren't just on top of their game.. they're on top of the whole CAR game. Yum

[@Kaisuke971]

Porsche is overrated

[@murdoch9106]

I've said that too for years, so true!

[@ahmadhadi1250]

Well corvette zo6 is not a brand but a model, 80k 650 horsepower 650 lb of torque, 0-60 auto in 2.95 seconds and 3.2 seconds in a seven speed manual.

[@Kaisuke971]

For this price, the Mercedes-AMG E63 S is a better proposition overall, especially when you take in account that you can basically have all options and still money left before it reaches the Porsche's MSRP. It accelerates way faster, i would think it corners about as good because it's slightly lighter (it doesn't have All wheel steering, so maybe be slightly slower), and to my eyes it seems to be a better luxury car too since the interior quality appears to be similar and it has more tech (their automatic driving is only topped by Tesla's). If you want a pure luxury car, the S550 is a better option too (at this game it's only topped by a few car to be honest). If you want a better luxury car without feeling like you're driving a boat, the 750i is also better overall, since it seems more confortable and has more tech but on paper should drive about as good (similar weight, also has All wheel steering). If you just want an expensive daily, the Tesla Model S P100D is a better option overall as well, since it seems to be the best daily on the market rn. There is more to a car than the badge, the 0-60 and lateral acceleration. When you take into perspective everything that the models offer, depending on your checklist, there are indeed better cars.

[@camiel221]

but merc are just merc no sport brand. And a Zo6? for real that is not even in the league of porsche. Talking about build quality there.

[@atthelord]

The Center console Is a case of pure hypocrisy! First people said "too many buttons" Now people are saying "why aren't there any buttons?"

[@Rentta]

There is thing called happy medium.

[@arccv]

I do think it's a happy medium, they're haptic!

[@vonrichthofen5734]

When the first gen Panamera came out, almost every reviewer complained about the "myriads of buttons". Porsche responded and cleaned up the centre console. Now they complain about the lack of buttons...

[@drblaque521]

My point exactly. The whining of these content creators is tacky, shameful

[@slaWterCH]

The combination of an analog rev counter and digital for everything else is genius! Thanks Porsche! This is one hell of a car! Since the sports cars (apart from the GT models) lost their souls, this might be the Porsche to get.

[@d.felixphoto2260]

slaWterCH isn't that in the Dodge Challenger/Charger and Jeep Grand Cherokee already?? 🤔

[@aaronming8466]

Porsche took a bold step in design and innovation here..compared to the outgoing model

[@Euphorica]

Aaron Ming by copying the rest of their lineup ? so bold

[@kraenk12]

+Euphorica You must be fun at parties...Quite ironic nick btw.

[@Euphorica]

kraenk12 I am the party bruh. Porsche design has been to carry over every design idea to all their cars. every one is parts bin and they all look the same...and I'm a Porsche fanboy /own one. they slapped on the 991 tail lights onto the Panamera and all these fools are talking like it's some ground breaking design.

[@aaronming8466]

Euphorica yeah the front looks like a Boxster 718 and the rear looks like a 911

[@samsonokoro5036]

I can't tell the difference in the exterior design much so i don't get why anyone would say there's innovation here. Interior is nice but that flat out digital style layout for the buttons in the center console like he said isn't user friendly when driving. There's no how it'll wont be distracting, but i'll admit it does look nice but it is nothing new. Several cars over the years have had touch sensitive like buttons or capacitive touch pads.

[@themockalove]

Gorgeous thing. Finally, a Panamera we deserve.

[@harrie205]

The best thing about your videos is the Presenter. His voice shows how passionated he is about the cars and i think thats great.

[@dlg5485]

Love this car. It's the best of both worlds. Whether you want supreme comfort for a night on the town or supercar performance for a day at the track, this car can do both equally well.

[@DigitalYojimbo]

touch buttons are the devils doing.

[@VentoRdrummeR]

I couldn't agree more

[@armonak]

funny how everyone were crying that there are too many buttons in old panamera, and asking for this. And how everyone is crying now that there are no buttons, people are just never happy.

[@DigitalYojimbo]

Dinu Ciobanu First of all, I never complained about too many buttons. Secondly, almost anything that can be done with touch sensitive buttons can be accomplished with switch buttons. so shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.

[@ZDY66666]

DigitalYojimbo I guess it's all about you haha

[@ZDY66666]

The car is still great either or. Can't see touch button being an actual concern for any buyer despite hate though. When it comes down to it...it really doesn't actually matter. Just get used to it. Just like how people use touch smart phones instead of button phones

[@paradox...]

Damn that red paint is stunning on this Turbo!

[@TheLastMag]

This guy is top 3 if not the best car journalist on KZbin. Actual content. ---not a fan of the digital dials, I wish Porsche would keep the mechanical ones and overlay a screen or surround them by screen space. Also I liked all the buttons on the last panamera, made it feel like a fighter jet cockpit.

[@kraenk12]

That's exactly what they did...The tach is still analogue!

[@Dextirous]

My dream is to own a Porsche.. such a beautiful machine :)

[@Grenyas]

Different tastes, but I loved the look of the old Panamera. However, the new one looks a lot better.

[@kevingustafson4190]

Eric Ortiz some of us like the 996's too.. love my 04

[@VaunShiz]

Eric Ortiz I like them all to

[@EvoraGT430]

Have a Mark 1 Panny Turbo and a 996, so completely agree, Eric :-) Opinions on looks should not be presented as 'facts'.

[@Porsche1969]

Mr. Alex douchebag spends almost two minutes of time in this video, to tell the people "not to forget how ugly the first generation of the Panamera was"... lol! This is so ridiculous! Instead of being a little bit "cooler" and trying to see the first generation of the Panamera as that what it was, a Porsche-unusually big car in the S-Class segment of the market, but certainly the fucking sportiest, he critizises and spreads his fucking hate against the first Panamera. Alex fucking little man is just a smallminded little fucker with no sense of coolness at all! No other car of its segment had such sporty talents like the first Porsche Panamera. And the "hunchback" blabla against this Porsche is just because of its need for passengers headroom in the rear of the car! This wasn't so easy to combine with the typical 911 design characteristics. The first Panamera was a cool looking big car, certainly much better looking than the fucking standard notchback cars from all the other car brands in this class! and for a better understanding: compare it with a completely useless Aston Martin Rapide. The rear seats in this car are a fucking joke, because completely without any sense! But it was sooooo fucking beautiful... yeah... of course! A Porsche Panamera is a perfect compromise of looking awesome and transporting four or five people without any lack of space in the most sporty way of such a car at this size! Alex fucking douchebag always makes the mistake, comparing this with the 911. But this here is a huge limousine with over 5 meters of lengh. For that it's simply fantastic how sporty this second generation of the Panamera handles and the first generation always was!

[@ioneee]

Agreed. Unfortunately it feels like the unibrow taillight design is being slapped on all the newer Porsche models indiscriminately by VW. It works well in some cases (like the new Panamera) but is a completely atrocity in others (the new Cayenne and A8).

[@cls63amgwagon34]

The gen 1 panamera didn't have a face only the designer could love. I love it, every non car person I've asked has loved it, and a percentage of car people I've asked love it. So I'd like an in depth analysis of why so many car people think it looks bad. I want to see all the first reviews of it, what was said, because I don't think that people thought it looked bad in the same proportion as they do now

[@CLOUD316]

Proud 970 turbo owner they are truly amazing cars especially a car of its size to move the way it does

[@allensaunders449]

this might be the best 4 door sedan on the planet now

[@Kaisuke971]

Nah objectively, when you sum up all the qualities of a car, it's between the BMW M760Li, the Mercedes-AMG S65, the Bentley Mulsanne Speed and the Rolls-Royce Ghost Black Badge.

[@Supcharged]

Kaisuke971 this handles way better than any of those

[@Kaisuke971]

And all of those are more luxurious. There is more to a car than handling, especially for a 2tons+ luxury sedan.

[@kraenk12]

+Kaisuke971 That's why it's great the non-Turbo Panameras are also very comfortable.

[@Zeratheus013]

Dear Carfection, your reviews always tickle my pickle. thats why you are my favorite youtube car reviewer. Sincerely a Fan

[@mehdiadlany]

I saw the first-gen Panamera the other day, and the Panamera is a car that drips with presence on the road. The design is polarizing -and that's a great thing. Not to everyone's taste but it is the most luscious car I love so much.

[@scootosan]

rear Spoiler is more "Transformer" than Ironman

[@ryanjansz]

Fantastic review by you guys as usual! 😊

[@stephenlane9127]

Fantastic car! In Turbo guise it’s a stormer too! Great review team.

[@giannislymperopoylos5574]

THIS VIDEO IS PERFECTION IN CARFECTION.....!!!!LOVE YOU PORSCHE!!!!

[@VaneNaumovski]

Ohhh I can't wait to see the Turbo S

[@ottosinger3239]

great footage and video overall! i really like the looks of the new panamera, especially the turbo with sport design package. Apparantly there is a v8 with electric motors in the line, something over the turbo S, arround 700hp rumored. We can only hope

[@astonmartin6527]

These reviews are just on point! Good job

[@Salubrious101]

I've got a series 1 panamera turbo and I love it.

[@Panthers1521]

I think its over engineered, using the infotainment screen to adjust the A/C vents is not solving a problem. Its just making things worse.

[@maksimometcinskii530]

Just drive and don't jerk your danm vents dude, set it up before you started and watch the road

[@BCJDM]

That rear fog light though.

[@dln.sweeney]

I'd love to see a similar version of that wing end up on the 992 Turbo. So trick.

[@klinkmuellerg]

Nevertheless, i think the Panamera is very, very expensive. Yes, i know its a porsche, and i know how well it drives but please keep in mind that this is a luxury car without most of this fancy driving assistance systems eg. HUD, Night vision etc. Other manufacturers do a better job in this concern with their luxury cars. In my opinion, most people who by luxury cars won't notice the extra performance capabilities of the Panamera. What they will notice is the price....but this is just my personal opinion. No doubt, the Panamera is a fascinating car!

[@klinkmuellerg]

Sure about the HUD? In germany i am pretty sure that this option is not avaiable. According to a local porsche dealer, the poeple at porsche decided against a HUD because the car should be/stay a driving focused car. Adaptive cruise control is available, you are right! And yes it is unique and it is a great car.

[@ubayyd]

Porsches are damn dream cars

[@Dharshanth.k]

bloody amazing review there mate.

[@razorworks111]

As a Porsche enthusiast, I agree with the notion that there's no such thing as too much power. However, there is such a thing of too much technology, which afflicts the latest iteration of some cars(including the Panamera)

[@Supcharged]

no such thing as too much power? just look at the challenger hellcat.

[@razorworks111]

Touche

[@G3ForceX]

We live in a world where people choose cars based on which one works best with their phone. Technological progress is inevitable and Porsche has to keep up with it just like everyone else.

[@tonycool100]

That's absolutely right. And that's why people always claim Japanese cars are more reliable...

[@obhatti]

I used to call the first gen Panamera the Puke-amera :P Glad to see the exterior has been revised so successfully! Can't argue with that insanely powerful engine - and although that new interior looks gorgeous, it certainly can't be easy to live with. 3rd gen the charm?

[@IndyenRtist]

At 4:34 and few other moments through out the video, I noticed there is a back tail light brighter than the rest. Is it the trickery of the camera or is that how it is supposed to be? I've never seen a car do that in the US.

[@martinmarinov505]

With a wing both models look great.

[@jeffriggs9194]

I gotta admit, that wing is pretty damn cool.

[@MaffiaCam]

'Porsche has so many buttons in their cars' *removes buttons* 'The car needs more buttons'

[@fernandokaadou97]

I love their buttons

[@NZsarge1]

Nice video, love the car. You criticisms of the touch screen controls set up is the same issues I have with touch screens, buttons and knobs might not look as clean but ultimately they're more practical and crucially I feel they're safer to operate whilst on the move. Looking all space age doesn't necessarily mean it'll be better

[@francehasbeenthemostimport9558]

My favorite car, I hope after my studies I would be able to buy it. fingers cross

[@albozzzzzzzzzzz]

2:55 sounds like an AMG

[@Djsndbruxnsbsw]

albozzzzzzzzzzz more like an rs

[@Kaisuke971]

Sounds as much like an AMG as every other crossplane V8 since they all sound pretty similar, but other than that not really. Like everyone said, it sounds more like an Audi RS... because it kinda is (same engine i reckon, and if not it's an evolution).

[@AnotherYoutuber460]

Kaisuke971 since Audi owns Porsche I wouldn't be suprised if does use the same engine from the RS6/7, 4L V8 Twin Turbo and sounds just like it.

[@longtailgt]

Nope. Sounds more like an RS6/RS7 because they use the same engine now.

[@mieszkooracz7370]

Rather a Bentley.

[@hellbent7066]

I love my Panamera with all the buttons and controls. When they got rid of the buttons due to people complaining, they obviously didn't listen to the large number people who wasn't complaining about the buttons. I've always preferred the buttons because I can operate them by feel even in the dark without having to take my eyes off the road. With a dark slick LCD panel you can't tell what you are touching unless you focus on it because you have to make sure you're on the right screen first becaus some controls occupy the same spot. I think they should have split the difference and maybe only got rid of a few. Not Damn near all of 'em.

[@rajivkishore]

6:21 actually 10years ago there was the M5 with the massive v10, its more like 20-30 years ago.

[@sakk1192]

Wish I could afford it

[@ubayyd]

dont we all

[@hilarious7695]

Hope you could

[@relaxationstation7374]

It sure would be nice if someone had some news on the nextgen Panamera turbo s... All that I have heard is that it is supposed to be a crazy fast hybrid hypercar that is to be set up with electric motor assist similar to the 918.

[@Monkiimagic]

That Spoiler..... awesome.

[@LamboPlays]

one of my new favourite cars

[@Ztcctz]

I cant wait to own one of these

[@drblaque521]

I really enjoyed this video, I like your sense of humor. Critical Thinking says that we have to look at both sides of a point, but I think too many creators are expressing their personal complaints to seem objective. Complaining about features and design on a car with a million things that you don't need.....is childish. Please stop it, you're better than that.

[@charlesearle8414]

Then there's the Panamera Turbo S E Hybrid. Porsche rates its 0-60 at 3.2 seconds! That's scary, especially since Porsche always downplays their numbers. That's 0.1 off of a Ferrari F12.

[@botchok5]

The older Panamera Turbo S had those retracting spoilers before. I guess people didn't know about it much because it wasn't marketed or shown off as much as they did with this updated version.

[@nrvous309]

What a great car. I've always liked it... even when it was ugly

[@normsallitt2753]

Love the 996 Turbo

[@bonkle_boi]

I don't understand the 996 hate, that car was my poster 911 and I always found it beautiful. Oh well, it'll keep the prices down so I can get one myself eventually, so I'm not complainin

[@duckman5642]

great review thax

[@Slycarlo]

Good review 👌🏻

[@MaikEletrica]

Amazing car!!!

[@blowawayvids]

IMO the first Panamera was looking awesome, better than the new one, I don't understand why all the reviewers hate it's looks.

[@anshuljain8515]

Have you guys had a chance to drive the top of the line Turbo S E-Hybrid?

[@Vortex]

A comparison between the new M5 when it gets released and the new Panamera Turbo will be very interesting.

[@jakeplayer23]

Why was that one LED on in the tail lights on the windy roads?

[@James-wi9ri]

such a nice car

[@shardie78239]

I sold Porsche for two years and I have to say I was never a fan of the Panamara. This car though, is stunning. And the best part of this car is that, most cars over 100k drop like lead weights in resale value in a short period of time. But this car, because of the limited numbers, the value stays high. It handles better than the BMW and faster as well. Even the V6 will get you better times that many competitor V8s. As an added value, lease rates on this car are very good .....residuals are very good, thus payments and very low for the price of car. I highly recommend! It's one of those cars that when you stomp on the gas, you just can't, not smile! 😜

[@icxcnika555]

car is gorgeous! TTV8 AWD PDK what more can u ask for? 👌 did porsche just steal the 4.0T motor from the Audi RS7 🤔

[@gogodufr]

The central screen for controlling the air vent direction is total bullshit !

[@creativeplanet2820]

Ajax that's total fucking cool

[@gogodufr]

Cool, yeah maybe. But is it practical and safe ? no. While I drive I dont want to loose eye contact with the road when adjusting my air vent.

[@creativeplanet2820]

Ajax I thought it had only in the back seats

[@kraenk12]

That said how often do you really change a thing like that?! Like never. The rest of the climate controls do have buttons.

[@gogodufr]

It depend. In fact at home we are 3 drivers and all of us have different setting for things like this. My wife and my son can drove my car and vice versa. When we do long distance trip we are used to switch driver. If Porsche did connect the air vent with seats program it's look like a pretty good idea? Otherwise, IMHO, it's useless. Oh another thing, is this reliable ? because Porsche is not cheap in repair cost.

[@overclocker82]

video about new porsche touch screen. They are so crisp.

[@dumyjobby]

there is no such thing as too much power--- unless it's called mustang

[@coffeeblak86]

Dumy Jobby even an eco boost mustang has probably plowed into a crowd!

[@ubayyd]

haha

[@chrishoesel]

@@coffeeblak86 Mustangs are true crowd-pleasers...……

[@meteormedia7021]

What happened to good old tactile switches and buttons...?

[@paulcfyeung]

and the same group of people who signed off the Mk1 Cayenne!

[@hafferzitu]

i like the looking of the 996 turbo s

[@englishmuffin909]

The 996 looks amazing???

[@famousmidnight]

Damn, what a car

[@ajaylegend8163]

Whats up with its taillight, bright red spot on the right one.

[@maartenvanbrakel2570]

When will you review the bugatti chiron?

[@VaunShiz]

love the pannameras looks way more then the 996 911

[@ASpectreOfSorts]

The "fuck you" button, lmao! I like that. Also, I think Alex dresses impeccably. More to the point, this new Panamera is a really impressive piece. Now, of course, it's a Porsche so it should be, but the levels of comfort, performance, and tech are absolutely incredible. If I made more money, this would be the shortlist of cars to buy.

[@apmbus]

Love Sport Response

[@thegirthquake8574]

Hey Carfection! Any thoughts on upgrading to a 4k camera system? Just a silly thought I had while admiring the great work!

[@mariosubasic.media1]

have a good day lads ;)

[@coureurdebois]

looks like a 4 door stretched cayman.

[@17XeviousGreen]

That split rear wing and that particular colour make the car look like a ladybird from the back xD cracking machine though, would very much like to own one

[@tommytexter4054]

shit! That interior and infotainment system are so good! Hope it can be carried over to new 911 and 718 sometime

[@SonnyAli1973]

Did this guy really say this car came equipment with a "F*** You" button? Bahahaaha!!! Oh my God, I want one just for that feature. Well done, douchy British guy, well done.

[@eavenegas88]

4.0 L twin turbo V8? Sounds awfully familiar. Audi-ish familiar. Then again, Bentley DID borrow that engine from Audi. And since the new Panamera chassis will serve as the basis for the upcoming Continental, it's not surprising that it will continue to use Audi's V8. After all, it's a fabulous engine. Great job, Harry Potter. I love your reviews. You should seriously take Chris Evans' spot on Top Gear!!

[@WinnipegCarSpotter]

Same 4.0L V8 as in the Audi?

[@ben_motorcycles]

Love your reviews man!

[@MrToastyman900]

Is this a stand-alone V8 or the trusty Audi RS/Bentley VW Group unit? Same displacement, same technical layout, same(similar) sound, and power figures in between Bentleys and Audis V8 S/RS cars ..

[@wordpress4373]

drag race vs audi rs7 performance?

[@vivalaphill]

same engine, 4WD, 8speed ZF vs. PDK and similar weight. interesting.

[@d0718]

vivalaphill different engine (of you mean actual engine, rather than displacement and layout)

[@BerndvonBackstein]

vivalaphill The 8speed PDK is built by ZF aswell.

[@Supcharged]

rs7 performance would probably pull away at high speeds 605hp vs 550hp and panamera is heavier

[@longtailgt]

*570. I think this will be a close race.

[@Yathuprem]

4:34 why one of that tail lamp is brighter ??

[@Janesch]

rear fog light

[@soundseeker63]

That control system..... A classic case of adding technology for the sake of it, which actually ends up making things less intuitive to use (and a LOT more expensive to fix when it goes wrong). This "everything should be on a touch screen" concept is a fad I can't wait for manufacturers to move on from. Yes its fast, but so are most twin turbo V8 cars. I can't say its charming me in the slightest.

[@michaelschneider-]

+1. .. The story here is the body design of the neu Panamera. .. The Series 1 body design was a constant debate in Fugly. .. Yes the version 2 body design is very nice. .. Read expensive,,, as saloon's go. .. Nice review.

[@stevebirmingham9650]

When i die and go to heaven can i have one of these waiting for me , its to die for ooooh yessssss

[@Kofi.86]

luv this car.

[@M_U_NAS]

Sounds very similar to the C7 RS6. Also outputs similar power.

[@BULLET2246]

Rear light out already?

[@karlx19]

Sometimes less is really less.... professional digital SLR cameras have a dedicated button/dial for everything... pick up an entry level version and its a menu delving nightmare for the most basic of adjustments.. ..which is exactly how some companies present their infotainment/controls etc etc. Sometimes a separate dial/button.switch really is the obvious route

[@MrOptimisticc]

How does the 64 plate panamera have that spoiler?!?!

[@PorscheGTRSWeissach]

Indeed! It's a beautiful Panamera! You guys nailed it with the comment in the beginning... ;-) I'm telling for years(!) they need to restyle the back and taillights on their cars! First Panamera was ugly! First Cayenne was ugly too! Now, they have beautiful, sporty, more Porsche looking taillights and... Ta-Da! Surprise, Surprise! It looks better! ;-)