Porsche Pothole Pt 2 - THEY KNEW!! Council fixes road AFTER crash kills driver.

After Part 1 last night, it has now been reported that the council have FIXED the pothole that caused a horror crash in Sussex.
What’s this all about…?
Is this tampering with the evidence?
Is this also an admission of guilt?
Is it corporate manslaughter?
Let’s look at the report, and ask what it takes to get the roads fixed in the United Kingdom
#news #porsche #sussex #crash

[@geoffcharlick7427]

Councils would rather spend our money on DEI and other useless projects that only flatter their vanity.

[@HunkumSpunkum]

...and crappy sculptures in our now almost dead town/city centres where they have taxed businesses to ruination and made it difficult and unpleasant for us to park our cars to shop there.....

[@sugarynugs]

shame inclusion doesn't include potholes... maybe they are far right

[@peterpearce8867]

@@sugarynugsthey are also spending the majority of their Council Tax on Social Care… at the expense of other more immediate problem in the community.

[@gingerjessy]

@@peterpearce8867 housing foreigners

[@Kalus_Saxon]

Rainbow flags and weird men in drag telling stories to children is more important than our safety ya bigots…!

[@evelyngott2056]

If the council knew about it, then it's time to sue them

[@HunkumSpunkum]

I hope the poor guy's family sue the council....

[@Trevor_Austin]

Prosecute and then sue. It’s easier that way.

[@photoisca7386]

This should be a matter for the CPS.

[@ItsAllJustBollox]

The council has 5 days to fix it from the date it is reported, until the information on if it was reported before the accident is obtained there is no evidence to sue the council.

[@scottsherrington7294]

​@ItsAllJustBollox did you watch the video? They knew about it at least 30 days before.

[@DAVIDE-bk8by]

Not enough money to fix the roads but always cash for councilors to go on jaunts to Europe to whatever town they've twinned with. Council tax well spent.

[@TheLiamis]

And buy their new £3million mansion.and £170,000 merc/porsche/bmw. Funny there's enough money for that.

[@jfphotography69]

You mean to keep importing third world illegals to replace the indigenous people.

[@antonoat]

And public money it seems to spend on housing “illegal immigrants” 😡😡😡

[@willstokes7266]

​@@TheLiamis And send tens of billions to Israel and Ukraine that we have no business being involved with

[@davidclemens1578]

They are hell bent on spending the budget on bike trails and bike lanes and flower boxes with signs to tell people the lane is closed to vehicle traffic and no way to continue in that direction because all the lanes are blocked. Look back at one of his older videos showing him trying to get onto the main drive but all the lanes are blocked.

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

Councils have plenty of time and money to paint Alphabet People colours on the roads, tho.

[@YllaStar95970]

They do that, so visiting Alphabet People know which part of town to head for.👍

[@mickk8519]

Exactly. Most council staff aren't worth a tenth of their wages.

[@andyxox4168]

If someone has to loose their life for every pothole repaired the country will be empty 😡😡😡

[@nimblehorse]

thats why boat loads of immigrunts keep happening

[@1gerard47]

Lose,stop talking nonsense.

[@buffalomerkis7603]

I noticed they do road resurfacing a different way to a decade or 2 ago. Is this accidental due to potholes becoming more common because of that change?

[@recall2880]

@@buffalomerkis7603The only way it will of changed is to be done as cheap as it can be. I notice all the loose chippings stay there and wait til traffic flattens it all by itself. Then they paint it job done. Rough surface left afte

[@stephenrichardson6105]

@@buffalomerkis7603what do they do different Because I’ve noticed it seems to be the top layer that comes off leaving lakes not holes

[@davidonly]

The repair is a cover-up.

[@vincenzodemiceli9250]

No pun intended I’m sure 😉

[@DeanandLisa1803]

Boom-Tish

[@paulgriffiths9824]

Probably before the car owners involved get there to photograph and measure the hole

[@sunnybnk]

I hope all the necessary parties - insurance etc - had the opportunity to view the scene of the incident. As there was loss of life, I'd expect the road to have been closed for long enough to allow for full investigation by the authorities.

[@theclotshotdidit3115]

Exactly, just waiting for the police to loose the photo's and measurements they took, even the bodycam footage will be lost too, or they were not switched on.🤬

[@Elsie-uy2kl]

It's a bit late now. The council should be held accountable as the roads are their responsibility paid for by the council tax. 😔

[@garethwilliams976]

I feel sure that you would welcome a large hike in this to ensure your roads are good.

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

@garethwilliams976. Actually like anyone with a brain.. I'd like them to stop committing malfeasance in a public office and stop laundering OUR tax money through friends/family businesses. I'd also like them to stop investing our money in places like Lockheed who fund and supply arms to kill thousands.. pretty sure that goes against the terrorism act.... I'd also like to NOT pay for their big houses and golden pensions which they get for NOT SERVING THE PUBLIC.. Which as a PUBLIC SERVANT that's kind of their job.. In my opinion

[@andreaf54]

@@garethwilliams976 we have already had huge increases in Council Tax they are to busy spending the money on “Green Projects” not doing the basics.

[@phil2hoots]

Central government tops up council tax for your local council. This has reduced by over 50% in the last ten years at the same time costs have risen. 70% of what’s left overall is spent on adult social care leaving very little for the care and repair of roads.

[@pennyprendergast1086]

We pay road tax to fix the roads, nothing to do with council tax

[@angelmessenger8240]

Hell will freeze over before they will be held accountable.

[@fredfred2363]

Nope. I've been involved in cases exactly like this. They have a duty of care. Not repairing a road hazard or coning it off IS negligent. Same applies to damaged road signs, trees down, cables down, missing manhole covers etc. Ultimately, if there is an expectation of a hazard then due care and attention rule applies. If the hazard is not expected, or not CLEARLY visible, then the responsibility shifts to whoever is responsible for the hazard that they ARE aware of.

[@ItsAllJustBollox]

​@@fredfred2363the key is aware of, we all need to report these road defects not grumble about them on-line.

[@jeremyashford2145]

Even though the mean global surface temperature has been falling for more than eight years now, it is unlikely that hell will be freezing over within the lifetime of anyone reading this. It might be a few hundred years, maybe a few thousand, yet.

[@chrisphillips7470]

They will pay a fine and compensation from the publics purse again and none of the council will go to jail or face any consequences for the death of this poor man

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

We the people demand that they stop spending billions on putting in cycle paths, and spend that money on fix the roads. Pot holes are on every road in the UK.

[@itisabird]

Cycle paths in the UK are really useless with such weather.

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

@@itisabird I agree.

[@StonedSc00by]

And to also stop funding stupid proxy wars that the public had no say in rather than spend that money to benefit the British public

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

@@StonedSc00by Agreed. They think that we were born yesterday. The proxy war against Russia was planned in advance by the west and we have the evidence.

[@khalidacosta7133]

"Spending billions". Care to elaborate? Maybe you seem to forget, that cyclists are more vulnerable to pot holes than cars... who would have thought, when you also consider a lot of cyclists have driving licenses and own cars.

[@hairy7653]

I blame net zero and Klaus Schwab

[@michaeljohnson-li5nn]

Don’t forget to add global warming and Brexit to that list.

[@jefftodd621]

@@michaeljohnson-li5nn and an aging population and the Farrr Right!!

[@user-tq1qd3iu2t]

You are sort of right in a weird way.

[@davidhartwell4826]

And Uncle Tom Cobley.

[@hairy7653]

@@michaeljohnson-li5nn Would you like to buy my beachside apartment in Birmingham?

[@navajojohn9448]

A friend was crushed by a truck while in his car because the truck hit a pothole and tipped over. The city was held financially responsible because the pothole was reported to the city prior to 48 hours before the accident.

[@NorthWalesPiscator]

Absolutely appalling that someone has died due to a pothole. The fact the council filled the hole in within 48 hours of his death should be seen as an admission of guilt. I live in North Wales and today council workers have been out filling in potholes.

[@ItsAllJustBollox]

The council have 5 days from the report of the pothole to fix it, doing it in 2 is what you would expect. Until we know when it was reported we don't know if the council has failed or not. Maybe we need to report potholes instead of driving around them and grumbling on the internet a bit more.

[@itisabird]

@@ItsAllJustBollox You're right that most people don't realize that leaks, potholes and other issues need to be reporter before they can be fixed. In fact I was the serial reporter of water leaks on my neighborhood back when I still lived in the UK, as I found that it never took them more than a couple of days to go fix them once I made the report. The potholes shown in the pictures of the accident, however, were clearly there for years. I cannot believe that a road with as much traffic as that one is not used by anyone working for the council so that they can report the potholes themselves.

[@peterpheasey7352]

a lot of pot holes are created by the utility companies, failing to repair the road surface properly. they dont seal the joints between the original road surface and the repair, hence water ingress and the joint crumbles, some road works are hundreds of yards long, after fitting, gas,electric,water telephone, works

[@ronpflugrath2712]

​@@ItsAllJustBolloxmaintainance after death, gee thankyou for slacking, not doing job in first place, crappy politicians as normal,

[@recs5351]

@@ItsAllJustBollox He literally said someone reported it on march 14th 2 weeks before it caused a death. Why are you commenting here if you didn't watch the video, this was stated at 1:20 do you work for the council or you just love speaking and proving to everyone you're stupid. God gave you 2 ears and 1 mouth so lets start using them proportionately.

[@DW-dd4iw]

No money to maintain the roads, but plenty of money for numerious electronic signs indicating your speed everywhere. New reduced speed limit signs (60mph to 50mph etc) everywhere.

[@notastone4832]

dont forget speed camera's

[@gar6446]

The council will have an army of lawyers and legal professionals to fight any legal action. All handsomely paid for by taxpayers. Only prison sentences will, "Pour encourager les autres."

[@ukaszdulski4550]

Council was informed. Criminal negligence, please sue them into oblivion.

[@helenmcclure]

Sadly it’s not the Council that pays. It’s us tax paying mugs. They know that. There’s no repercussions for them.

[@ukaszdulski4550]

@@helenmcclure That's why I think we should sue 'them'. Meaning actual individuals, not government bodies.

[@SaltimusMaximus]

I live in East Sussex and the roads are appalling. I drive all day for work and this year there have been so many roadworks, more than I have ever seen before, road closures, temporary lights, but these are mostly utility companies, not Highways repairs,the additional time it adds to my work has been ridiculous. In this part of Sussex I have seen “repairs” fail after 24 hours. I had a car veer in front of me a few weeks ago. Last year I broke two alloys. My Council has money for climate emergency awareness courses for it’s staff though

[@wiggy1066]

i live in east sussex too. the roads are more like off road tracks. there are SO many road cones and temporary traffic lights but nothing seems to get done. following the "repairs" the cones and signs never seem to get collected. its chaos.

[@doghous3]

same here: east sussex. I'm on a motorbike, though. And really, from what I've seen it's all over sussex. Not just pot-holes, but top-layer off in large patches for 10s of meters. although, I actually saw a pot-hole being repaired in brighton earlier this week - I couldn't believe my eyes! was amusing watching the guy flattening their handywork with the top end of a pickaxe...

[@Happiness0005]

West Sussex is horrific

[@SaltimusMaximus]

@@doghous3 yes, smack some cold tarmac in the hole then off, little prep work, seen these repairs fail in 24 hours. There was a dropped kerbstone, rather than level it up they patted tarmac on to to level it, couple of days later it was in the road

[@doghous3]

@@SaltimusMaximusbloody hell, all you can do is laugh! wasted hundreds of pounds on just that, no doubt.

[@catastrophic009]

Corporate manslaughter !!....Should be sued for millions even if it comes out of council tax coffers ! All their staff should work for the minimum wage for the rest of their council days !!

[@nathansmith7153]

Stupid driver

[@NotclownJ0k3r5]

The place I live there was a streetlight out for nearly a year, It is placed in a darkish lane. A young lad was raped in that dark area and the streetlight was fixed the next day by the council.

[@HunkumSpunkum]

The tight gits keep turning-off every other streetlight.

[@paulcoulson2584]

The police and councils work in unison so this will all be swept under the carpet I'm afraid.

[@MatthewRSimpson]

Rubbish

[@paulcoulson2584]

@@MatthewRSimpson no its not.

[@MatthewRSimpson]

@@paulcoulson2584 Yes it is. A fatal collision has to go through coroner's court, which is the highest court in the land. Do you REALLY think the investigating officer, the senior investigating officer, the crash investigation unit, every police officer who attended is going to LIE, perverting the course of justice (resulting in loss of job, house, family and time in jail) to save someone (who they dont even know) in the council? There is no way that it can be 'swept under the carpet' when there are also a lot of other witnesses that can say that (potentially) a pot hole played a part in a mans death.

[@TheVocitus]

​@@MatthewRSimpsonWell Said Somebody Rational.

[@MatthewRSimpson]

@@paulcoulson2584 Yes it is. A death is dealt with by coroners court, which is the highest court in the UK. Do you REALLY think that the investigating officer, the senior investigating officer, the crash investigation unit officer, the crash investigating officer's Sgt, every officer who attended the collision, every officer who obtained statements etc are going to LIE to this court, risking being convicted of perjury (if found guilty, the only punishment is jail), risking their job, their livelihood, the family, their home, their pension, to protect someone in the council who they have never met and who may actually be guilty of an offence? Think about it.

[@tzrrsdave]

I'm disabled because of a pot hole, it shot me into a ditch, but no other car involved so no insurance claim, life has been hell for 6 years my knees are done

[@MDM1992]

No insurance claim.. personal injury? There doesn't have to be a third party for an insurance claim..

[@notmanynamesleft]

Surely whoever is responsible for the road surface is liable and should pay you out accordingly for the injuries they caused you?

[@huddunlap3999]

The problem is that people are complaining to the council instead running for office and replacing them.

[@helenmcclure]

Councillors are only part of the problem. The real tough one to crack is the numerous internal bureaucratic empires within. Public & Civil service is riddled with them & it’s this that cripples & drains our services of funding. Just as MPs can’t do anything about the Civil service without ruining any chance of a career it’s the same at local government level.

[@Delete_DeLolz]

Most people are not in that position to do so.

[@hamshackleton]

You have to put a huge deposit down - up-front, to try to run for councillor, then you have to finance your own leaflet campaign etc. Then if you don't get enough votes, you lose all your deposit AND all the leaflet money that you spent!

[@joshuaaaron125]

@@hamshackletonlocal elections there is no deposit, it’s only general and mayoral

[@theyjustwantyourmoney4539]

@@hamshackleton True, it’s a costly endeavour

[@Dougthebrummie]

On the news tonight, They are going to start closing roads during the day so children can play in them. Great way to teach children about road safety.

[@1gerard47]

S Children should be at school during the day,silly comment.

[@robinwalmsley896]

Isn't it unlawful to obstruct the PUBLIC HIGHWAY

[@hogarthsregression1386]

@@robinwalmsley896 Not with a Notice its not

[@HunkumSpunkum]

Who remembers the green cross code? (stop-look-listen).

[@MDM1992]

​@@HunkumSpunkumhow dare you bring up common sense solutions which worked perectly! They have no place in todays society! 😂

[@peternicholson3768]

There can be no more obvious liability of the council's liability than this attempt to hide their guilt in this matter. The council members for roads should be in court.

[@janegreen9340]

Appalling that a life was lost in this way.

[@guss2099]

This is nothing short of a complete disgrace! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@a310man]

The council have no money for road repairs. The blame is firmly in the hands of the government!

[@davidfielding6645]

As a retired Met Traffic Officer I can assure you the pot hole will be measured and photogrphed including depth etc. Dont forget this will end up in front of the coroner and thats the highest court in the land. Police will then direct the council to fill it in so to prevent another collision

[@professorjamesmoriarty5191]

And there lies the problem, the police have to make the council fill it in. They won't do it on their own.

[@simont1108]

Geoff, you're right in saying getting as much money as possible. The local council used to have their own highways Dept. and they were on the job continually. Once it got contracted out just like the NHS the preventative maintenance disappeared. Couple the extortionate council managers wages with the inflated contractors approved tenders and now we can see that "Greed costs lives". Highlighted because I think it's true in this case.

[@tpbcpeople]

Geoff, I believe that it's a deliberate act by the powers that be, to make driving so difficult and dangerous, that it will aid the reduction of vehicles on the roads.

[@GT380man]

Yes. Agreed.

[@bfc3057]

No, it's the Martians reverse engineering in Area 51

[@oojimmyflip]

My son has a friend who repairs pot holes and he learned in the local pub that they dont repair them properly (to last) deliberately or they would be out of a job, they used to repair them by pouring hot tar around the edges to seal them from moisture ingress but they dont anymore so water gets in it freezes and the tarmac falls out.

[@soundseeker63]

I've notice that too, what passes for a repair these days is absolutely laughable. Sloppy and slapdash is too kind, I boils my blood to think we are actually paying some company to do work to such a poor standard when it could just as easily be done right and then left alone for years.

[@bfc3057]

Lol - my son has a friend who has learned

[@bfc3057]

My son has a friend who.....

[@cloudbasenirvana]

Will the councillor reponsible for roads of the council now be held accountable for this poor mans death - could this be categorised as an act of manslaughter

[@BeeBee3_Adventures]

Even the motorways are full of potholes in many places .

[@davey1602]

Something similar happened to my son some 15 years ago. He was on his bike for his first day of work, he knew he had right of way and yet ended up with his leg wrapped around an SUV wheel. By the time we got solicitors out to investigate, the council had redrew the road markings to indicate it was his fault and not the airhead who couldn't see above her steering wheel.

[@Galerak1]

Why doesn't this come under 'tampering with evidence' legal restrictions? After watching more of your video it would appear I'm not the only person to think this. Imagine how much trouble EVs are going to start having as more and more of the UK's road system falls into similar disrepair.

[@paulcampbell840]

The heavier and faster accelerating EVs will be causing disproportionately more damage to the tarmac without paying for it through road tax.

[@MDM1992]

Seen the way most EV drivers are on the road? 🛎🔚's lol

[@system11yt]

They know, they get reports all the time and ignore them. They're supposed to mark them in yellow when 'known' and it's obvious that they don't, because some are so incredibly bad that there's NO WAY they aren't aware of them. I suspect not painting them is a way to get out of damage liability - until a hole is recognised and on their list, they are not liable for claims. As soon as they mark it, they are. I hate councils, they're all absolutely worthless.

[@user-tq1qd3iu2t]

best start carrying a can of yellow spray paint then

[@system11yt]

@@user-tq1qd3iu2t My mother saw one someone had planted flowers in to make a point.

[@TheVintageNews]

council were notified, if they couldnt get to it the police should have closed it. they close roads at the drop of a hat these days, shocking neglect of duty

[@fredfred2363]

This. 100%

[@MatthewRSimpson]

were the police made aware of it?

[@brillbilly]

Quote from my post yesterday!...Sad fact that it takes a death to get that pothole/crater now highlighted, yet watch how quick it's the only hole that gets fixed!..Then make out it's some type of petrol head accident?...unquote!

[@jasonuren3479]

Doesn't repairing the road _after_ the fatality amount to admitting tacit responsibility? Yet nobody will pay. Yeah they really care about you and me.

[@HunkumSpunkum]

They're trying to cover-up a crime.....

[@jasonuren3479]

@@HunkumSpunkum Of course. Can't help but think they're making it worse for themselves though, making the repair so soon after the fatality, to my mind only draws attention to the fact that they've been negligent.

[@peterhelon3815]

The shoddy roads are a symbol of the state the country is in.

[@AdelinoGambiarras]

Unfortunately yes is very upsetting for me to know that someone had to lose a life so the pot hole got fired 😢 My condones to the family's involved.

[@jamesroberts5667]

Unfortunately it won’t change anything

[@paulmurphy1501]

We need an mot for all vehicles, right?..... why have we not insisted on roads having an mot, a standard, the roads need a standard that's safe for all road users. Every motorist pays tax either road tax or in fuels..... this would and should be used for roads.

[@paulmeynell8866]

What about the other 18 million reported pot holes? Are you going to draw up a list of all the roads to be closed while we wait for them to be fixed.

[@paulmeynell8866]

What the F*ck has the council got to do with this guy swerving onto the wrong side of the road? He knew the pothole was there ? Dangerous driving in a Porsche. Wait and see the outcome of the investigation. And for god same get someone to look at your script , you talk so much uneducated bollox. You have no idea about the law or the police . Yours is one off the least researched rants I have ever see.

[@paulmeynell8866]

F*ck me “ the council knew a crash was going to happen” what are you mystic Meg. We have potholes 2 years old and guess what no one has crashed , how bad are your drivers down there? Do you all need re testing?

[@stuartfitch7093]

A couple of years ago the young man who lives next door to me was driving down a road in our town with the usual 30mph speed limit, hit a pothole, his car's entire front suspension collapsed and wrote off his entire car. If you hit a pothole you dont need to be doing a high speed for it to do a lot of damage. You can hit a fairly small pothole at say 20mph and it can still do massive damage to a car. What I want to know is where all the money from road tax is going. If it was spent on the roads then we would have the best roads in the world.

[@Screwy9758]

We don’t pay road tax anymore, (haven’t been for years, probably because more & more went elsewhere) it’s VED & goes straight to the government coffers!

[@olivertaylor7427]

A motorcyclist died on the A54 from congleton to buxton after hitting a pothole and going off the road the other week. Council now resurfacing it. 🙄.

[@AI-Records24]

I was on it yesterday, it’s still absolutely terrible. They should ban HGVs from those sorts of roads too there’s loads of alternative paths yet you’re always held up by one, and by idiots who don’t know how to overtake. I had to overtake a queue of 13 cars to get past one, all just sat there accepting their fate😂😂

[@andreww9574]

Is this the bit before you turn onto the cat and fiddle coming from harpur Hill direction?

[@EPiper-qg1xd]

190 quid to fix my alloys last mot .Where exactly is the money going? Isn't it the highways agency more than the council. Like everything in this country, not quite working but they have 7 million quid a day to house people that shouldn't be there.

[@anglosaxon5874]

So. Why haven't the council put warning signs up? Why have they not put temporary reduced speed limits approaching the potholes [we have them on the railways, maybe roads should have them too]. The council is partially responsible for the damage to vehicles and this accident too. We should make the department/case heads personally responsible [financially] so this will reduce in the future as they will be encouraged to do their jobs!

[@thejollyman]

Because such poorly informed people believe they have lawful litigation! They don't

[@anglosaxon5874]

@@thejollyman Then sunshine the laws have to be changed! Edit: And if you read my statement, it says "We should make......" So the laws need to be changed and the immunity to prosecution taken away from a few departments [in other matters too].

[@thejollyman]

@@anglosaxon5874 If you’re still under the illusion the Earth is a spheroid chasing the sun! Your opinions are irrelevant 👍

[@anglosaxon5874]

@@thejollyman So is your's you loon!

[@anglosaxon5874]

@@thejollyman The Sun is spelt with a capital S! You're nor intelligent enough to continue conversations with!

[@glidezilla]

When i left school in 1966 jobs were quite plentiful however, if you were a total waste of space (unemployable) the council would take you on, these clowns are now running the show.

[@HunkumSpunkum]

Local government morons with a job for life.

[@robt2151]

Don't blame those of us who started at the bottom and worked our way up, learning a lot on the way. We've retired and our local knowledge has been replaced by over-educated 'experts' with no experience and no wish to get their hands dirty.

[@thestu7066]

What a stupid statement

[@richardwherry4896]

Climate change caused the pothole and covid caused the driver to crash, said The Guardian.

[@nathansmith7153]

No - YOUR STUPID ICE car caused the problem

[@frankfisher99]

"Women worst affected"

[@ronpflugrath2712]

Shitty roads are shitty roads. Poorly built to start with. Poor or no maintained. Go kick the butts.

[@peterclayton4321]

I hit a large pothole on Old Derry Hill in Chippenham Wiltshire, tyre blew and I needed AA assistance, however the following day a motorcyclist hit the same pothole and was involved in a fatal collision, the next day as a further person was waiting for rescue, the council came and filled one of the holes. What a shambles by Wiltshire council 🤯😡

[@stephenthoms9139]

This is corporate manslaughter They have messed with a crime scene

[@tonyjesshope6861]

I am currently on holiday in East Sussex and I am amazed at the state of the roads there. Potholes everywhere it is disgraceful. There is a really bad stretch on the A271 west of the village of battle. Fortunately it is in the 30mph area. When I cam across it I was behind a mini who suddenly braked hard a almost stopped continuing at a slow rate for 40ft. The tarmac was destroyed across the whole width of one lane and the base core of the road is visible. I was gobsmacked!

[@averagepal572]

I assume the police would have collected the relevant evidence and then demanded the council fix the pothole ASAP.

[@averagepal572]

* The council will get away with this because they had it on the "to do" list.

[@dogtails7614]

If there was ever a reason for absolutely everybody to stop paying council tax this is it. They have just basically tampered with evidence which is a criminal act in itself. The police should have ordered the road be completely closed until a full and thorough investigation was completed. The council leaders need to be held accountable, because of their negligence they have murdered an innocent motorist.

[@soundseeker63]

The police WILL have closed the road and done an investigation (ongoing but not yet concluded) and taken photographic, forensic and eye witness evidence at the time of the accident, as they always do in severe or fatal accidents. So the council have not "tampered with evidence" in that sense, since it will all have been recorded at the time. However it is an admission of guilt in a way, to fill the hole so soon after a fatal accident, having not acted for weeks previously when it was first reported. I am starting to agree about the whole council tax situation thought. If they prove themselves incompetent and unable/unwilling to put public safety first, clearly there needs to be a serious discussion about their right to demand money from residents if they then fail to provide even the basic services.

[@adonisnetworks]

2.5 billion for the war in Ukraine , zero for Road repairs

[@clemo49]

Big class action coming. Sue their arses off.

[@kevinmott6205]

Smoke and mirrors by the Council. Shame on them. Set of chocolate fire guards. Thankyou Geoff 👍

[@ryanwilson6850]

They knew about it for longer than 2 weeks... the incident was on 29/04, and the pothole was reported on 14/03. Disgraceful.

[@sheldonparry3272]

And as usual, No-one will be found to be at fault!

[@JCosh]

I live fairly locally and drive on the very road regularly. Firstly, it is my understanding that the gentleman driving the GT2 was on his way to Goodwood, not on his way back. The road is dead straight and historically used for a safe place to overtake after a slow section prior. However, the pot holes have got so bad due to flooding off the fields either side, that most cars now drive in the middle of the road to avoid both the pot holes and the debris either side of the road. It is quite easy to believe that a cautious GT2 driver would be mindful to avoid the pot holes in a attempt to avoid damage to his car, but if the on coming traffic was doing the same then an accident was only a matter of time. It a tragedy that a man has lost his life in order for action to be taken in terms of repairs. I confirm the repairs have been made in the last few days. There is currently temporary traffic lights to guide traffic around the damaged house.

[@Vaniter]

I live in petworth but used to go to school in horsham when i was young, and we would always have to drive in the middle of the road when it had flooded. I remember thinking, "we gotta go quicker, hopefully no cars are coming yet," as we tried to avoid the water. Super sketchy stuff

[@kevinleesmith]

On the plus side, the roads in Ukraine are surprisingly smooth

[@davidhartwell4826]

Except those damaged by shelling. missile strikes, glide bombs, etc, etc. So go live in Ukraine.

[@oliverlaw02]

Thanks to British's taxpayers money.

[@kevinleesmith]

@davidhartwell4826 I think people who are for the people of Ukraine dying in a war created by the west should go live there.

[@bfc3057]

You've obviously never been there

[@waughontheworld6530]

Once upon a time there was a full time Worcestershire cc worker driving around finding marking and reporting road related problems, potholes, bad signs, traffic lights not working, white lines missing/worn out etc

[@BionicRusty]

I’ve been through this with Flintshire council. Zurich, who insure them, state that they have no liability and reject everything I throw at them. Insurance claims - Rejected Appeals - Rejected Their final email basically says’Sue us if you dare’. I can’t afford to. 3 tyres and 2 wheels in the past 5 years at a cost of almost £3,000. I sold my car and replaced it with a SUV. I dodge the craters now and the roads by me must damage vehicles daily. Oh, and they have ZERO responsibility to warn of the dangers. I’m assuming all councils have this written into their manifesto or whatever it’s called.

[@MrLg55555]

You should have called their bluff at least and if that didn't work, go the extra and get a lawyer involved... The lawyer would put it to the council and their insurers,that they are responsible for the damage to your car through negligence and they have 28 days in which to either pay up or he will go before a Judge and request a " Winding up procedure" against them... Can guarantee you that when you start threatening businesses, councils etc with the aforementioned, they soon change their stance... If I have any problems with any type of business, I have a lawyer that costs me a tidy hourly rate, but always gets the right results...

[@bfc3057]

No, its civil law

[@estern001]

I'm not informed on how local government works in the UK. Interestingly, in the States it's easy to tell how well State and local governments are doing by the roads. I remember driving across the country. When we entered Texas the roads became remarkably better. It felt like a more prosperous country.

[@MegaTube1313]

I hit a massive pot hole 15 years ago in a classic lancia . Insurance company would not claim from Hertfordshire council . Destroyed two wheels and tyres and rear suspension leg . When I returned to take a photo, would you believe it , it was filled in .total cost to me was £3000 Throughly pissed off . Now in Cambridgeshire the road I’ve used for 7 years to go to work is so bad I’ve had to take a different route 🤦‍♂️.still own the lancia but can’t drive it anywhere because the roads are utter crap

[@DatBoiOrly]

I hope this guy's family sues the council

[@Alasdair-Morrison]

The council should be held accountable

[@tazmaniachill]

Potholes are everywhere, it’s road failure by design go figure

[@chew1047]

Yet if you have an iffy tyre the police have no problem prosecuting you.

[@davidneville1712]

My two penn'orth, local Councils used to have their own dedicated council road-crews/pavement/street sign/mowing/lighting departments, and workers would move teams as necessary, then central government decided to outsource, so everything now goes to cheapest tender not best practice, if a team used to be out patching potholes they got paid to fix what they found, these new crews only get paid to fix what's reported, time to return to what worked , pay the workers, not the politicians,

[@Sanksta18]

Absolutely disgusted by councils by the repairs and gas and water companies.

[@kevinmott6205]

There was an article in the Lancashire Telegraph re a Preston women who severely injured her ankle in a pot hole. Council said, wait for it, pot holes are a fact of life. Dont remember that being in reproductive biology lessons at school. 😮😂😊

[@anthonywalmsley5299]

Totally agree with everything you have said, until someone or an organisation is brought to book things will not change. Keep up the good work Geoff, best wishes, Tony.

[@christinevickers3082]

I contacted my MP last year to support my request for the roads to be repaired. I stated there were better roads in Madagascar! Thankfully, my report was supported by the MP and the roads were tarmacked (a good mile length of road) A really great job done! (however, one caveat, there is only ONE DRAIN/GRID). We live on a hill in a village...so let's see how the drainage works!. Another incident. I drove down a lane leading to my home at dusk. I couldn't avoid a large pothole and my car subsequently suffered the oil sump to be damaged. Having contacted the council, they told me to take photos of the pothole. I did. Measured it. Sent in all the details and was gaslighted!!! A couple of weeks later the potholes were 'repaired', albeit to a very low standard. Over twenty years ago, I was told by someone that the council will only change the layout of a road, if it deems to be badly designed, when three accidents occur! (I reported the need for some crash barriers in our village, on a hill, at a bus stop, where my children got onto their bus!!! (The barriers were put up, ONLY AFTER a few accidents!!!) I thought prevention was better than cure? I believe that the council should be further held to account. When I reported these potholes, I was told that it was UP TO THE ROADUSERS to REPORT ANY POTHOLES/ ROAD DAMAGE!!! Then and only then would they deal with the matter.

[@pdtech4524]

Somebody should be held accountable and face corporate manslaughter charges⚠️😲 Obviously somebody is responsible for roads and highways within the council and if they were aware of the crater and did nothing, then they are negligent! I work in the care sector, working with elderly people, taking them out on trips etc in a minibus, if somebody in my care has an accident and I'm negligent in ensuring their safety, I'll face charges, not my employer!😮

[@acooper5033]

Geof send the gov a FOA on how much cash has been spent on road repair and how much has been spent on ULEZ.....where is our cash going. I live on Skye and our roads are like farm tracks with thousands of tourists, garages do well.

[@robinmcgowan1336]

Lets face it, they don't want us driving. Part of me seriously thinks this is being done on purpose. What's next a Beeching style cut on which roads the councils are responsible for and/or PPM? Edit: Starting to think the guy that painted male anatomy near the potholes had the right idea they got filled in real quick.

[@soundseeker63]

Of course its on purpose. There's a number of roads near me where the surface is literally falling apart, has been for years. Then mid last year the came along and plonked hugs speed bumps and 20mph signs all over it....never touched the surface though, which is still a complete mess and a real hazard for cyclists. Likewise they've spend god knows how many millions on a new average speed camera system on parts of the outer ring road, but left the road its self as it was with big slabs of surface breaking off all over the place... They wan't to make driving as stressful, uncomfortable, expensive and inefficient as possible and display that stance pretty openly. "we don't have the money" is BS, they just have their priorities all wrong.

[@lolitapitpong3826]

@@soundseeker63that would explain why they never touch potholes since they only cost about £40 to repair

[@salnaturile8653]

​@@lolitapitpong3826- £40 in materials, maybe. Then the wages of two or three road workers and one technician to sign it off, hire of temporary traffic lights + permit, and you're already well into 4 figures.

[@soundseeker63]

@@lolitapitpong3826 And even when they do "repair" them the work is so shoddy it barely lasts a year before it needs doing again. They could very easily choose to do it properly one time but they choose not to becuase they don't want to make driving in the UK a pleasant and efficient experience.

[@adamdaniel9110]

I saw road workers filling tiny little holes down a single lane track last week, a small road that hardly anyone uses ... but guess what ... someone on the council lives down there !!!!

[@supersaabclaire]

The potholes all over this country are absolutely horrendous!!! Derbyshire is horrendous too

[@WainwrightWalksWiaLocalLad]

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. In 2018 I fell off my pushbike, I was found unconscious in the road by a passing motorist....who very kindly took me to A&E at the local hospital. Fortunately I was wearing a quality helmet (which had cracked on impact) , I had no lasting injuries thankfully. I went back to the scene a couple of days later, the road had been repaired!...who told the council?🤔 Great video as always Geoff, cheers Alistair 👍

[@user-rc7dq7xp6y]

And yet they find millions for all these super wide bike lanes, make them a reasonable size and the material saved could be used to fill in the pot holes in the road at the same time. That seems sensible.

[@peterwright9546]

Do not worry about evidence tampering ,the police will have taken hundreds of photos / videos laser scan of the accident . Any fatal accident they have to make sure they collect all evidence so it can be given to the coroners court.

[@dianejohnson4162]

I was told by a council member that they have someone who goes around our town checking the roads for potholes and other deficiencies. Many of our roads are dangerous so l am looking out for this person and l will know them because of their white stick. Keep up the good work Geoff. 👍

[@bernicebest]

There’s absolutely nothing to laugh about anymore, but you managed to get a chuckle out of me 👍thank’s 🙏

[@jinglejanglejingle7482]

Herefordshire here. I live on a bad bend with a concealed driveway. People come flying around the corner so leaving the property is always a risk. We asked Herefordshire council to install a speed limit on the corner. Their answer? "No one has died so it's not a problem"

[@jo_clarke1960]

The Police will have released the scene so the Council free to do as they wish. The Police should have the relevant pictures and information. They do road surveys but not that often, so they only repair when it has been reported and the first case of damage they have no liability for as they didn't know about the problem, if they fail to do in reasonable time, they become liable for damage. Trying to get a Council to pay for damage is a nightmare though.

[@anglosaxon5874]

So. Those intelligent road fixing crew can't report another spot near where they are working themselves or ask their manager if they should do that one too. I blame the unions for that. Only this country are they slow/lazy at these jobs and the costs go up. I know this from the railway [so much wastage of money!]. On the continent [and anywhere else I presume] common sense would step in and repair all potholes within sight.

[@Life-on-120]

A boycott of payment absolutely. Agree with your comment about the cost and councils wasting money. My primary residence is in Spain where my council tax is 237€ a year for 2 bed detached villa and the roads there are superb. Conversely I pay £1463 in council tax for a terraced house in the UK. I currently live in Durham and the roads are some of the poorest I have seen. I am looking into starting a motorist action group

[@michaelhutin5451]

All road users should pay into a pool to help keep the roads in good condition, a fund if you wish. Once you have paid into this pool of money, you will be issued with a car badge or sticker to show other road users you have paid, a licence type thingy. And all this money could then go to road maintenance only, nothing else. We just need a name now.

[@Royboy50]

How about road fund tax ,hold on don’t we already contribute to that scam

[@Bruce4lmighty]

😂😂😂

[@bfc3057]

Lol - I'm assuming that's a joke

[@bernicebest]

At last someone with a sense of humour 😂🤣😂🤣

[@demonhighwayman9403]

I get that you are seeing red on this subject but the police had already been out to the scene and I assume photographed the area, all before the council repaired the hole, which if it had been left would have brought negligence charges as well as manslaughter charges.

[@TheBandit7613]

People are required to be in control of their vehicles at all times. We slow down for rain or ice, we watch for poor road conditions and slow down or even stop if need be. We all know there are pot holes this time of year. We keep our speed reasonable and prudent for local road conditions. If we crash, we are going to fast for conditions.

[@soundseeker63]

If a council cannot/will not do the jobs they are tasked with and act in the best interests of public safety, then clearly that council is not fit for purpose and has no right to demand money from residents, to then fail to deliver an acceptable service. I think Richard Vobes is thinking along the right lines in that respect - If the "authorities" tasked with maintaining public infrastructure prove themselves unwilling or too incompetent to fulfill their stated role, they need to be replaced. And if local residents can club together and do the job themselves, then they should do just that! - And withold full or partial payment of their council tax rates to cover the costs.

[@TinWhistleTV]

Hi, I happen to agree with you, I don't currently drive, but I do cycle due to budget constraints, but may I politely encourage you and your lovely views to refer to what we pay as Vehicle Excise Duty rather than Road Tax as I often have to point out Road Tax was abolished in 1937. Keep up the great work as I enjoy what you and the macmaster do.

[@arcadeuk]

My local council decided to spend £35k on 2 LGPQRS rainbow crossings, which were defaced in one day, instead of fixing any potholes 🤬🤬

[@NerdInMotion23]

Damn that boils my blood

[@GT380man]

I’m glad it was defaced.

[@nicksubishi22]

The police will actually tell the council to fill it following the incident and it will be unlikely if the police actually formally state the council is responsible. I know from personal experience.

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

Yes, suddenly a larger number potholes across Glasgow have been filled; hastily and badly done. See you again My friends in a few months time.

[@richardcrowell284]

Over here down under, I live in an outer suburb of Sydney. We pay one of the largest rates (Council Tax) in Australia. Our roads are semi rural roads and are constructed by compacting road base and then spraying hot tar and rolling blue metal (gravel) into the surface. I had a pothole about ten metres from my driveway. I took photos and complained to the council, they sent this hugely expensive truck they purchased that sprays tar in the hole and then gravel. Every time they do this and it rains the holes just get bigger. I was contacted by an insurance investigator over a large claim against the council because a motorcyclist hit the pothole and ended up losing an arm after the accident. If you drive to Picton where the council chambers are, the roads are all paved in hotmix (asphalt). The good news is they repaved the road in hotmix and then came along and dug up patches of the recently paved surface. People often wonder why I purchased a 4wd, I reply at least it can most of the local road conditions. At one time I had a festiva as a second car and had to straighten the wheels several times.

[@kevinraines4318]

funny how the car parks and roads around town halls never have potholes

[@stevewatkins228]

So sad!

[@McGrowlers1]

I used that road a few hours earlier and likewise swerved to miss a pothole on the downhill stretch as you leave Petworth on the A272 heading towards Billingshurst - it was both big and horrendously deep with sharp edges. Hitting it would have caused serious (and expensive) damage to my car. I was fortunate in that nothing was coming in the opposite direction. I concur with your assessment of the situation - the inference in the article is there that if you are driving a sports car and there's a track day just up the road in Goodwood then you must have been speeding. You were right to point out that the Police have said that excessive speed was not the cause of the accident and that officials have no record of the car / driver participating in the Goodwood track event. It needed to be said as unfortunately the driver is no longer able to defend himself. 😢

[@darrents44]

In Preston, lance the council have pumped millions into new cycle lanes and bus gates, yet potholes are everywhere. Some roads are almost unusable.

[@fredjames9867]

1 mph over and there say it was speed that killed him

[@micky1up]

1mile over is speeding is it not ?

[@jasonnunn673]

Why do you think the speed limits are so low it's so when we do hit a pot hole we don't kill ourselves

[@dudmanjohn]

National speed limit 60 mph on the road where this collision occurred. Potentially a 120 mph head on collision. Slow ?

[@jasonnunn673]

@@dudmanjohn give it a week and it will be 30 with average speed cameras,

[@xr6lad]

This is happening all over the world. Here in Australia roads are like patchwork quilts between potholes, filled in potholes and potholes developing.

[@kandykush4204]

This happened in Stalybridge, Tameside a few years ago. Some poor kid learning to ride a moped hit a pothole, lost control and ended up going under a quarry truck heading the other way. Tameside council filled it either later that day or the next day then denied it was deeper than legally allowed and never faced any charges for his dea*h. Same thing here too where the police blamed inexperience of the learner and never properly investigated our corrupt council!

[@MatthewRSimpson]

Its not tampering with a crime scene at all, and i will explain why. I was a traffic cop for 8 years, and attended 35+ fatal collisions and was the investigating officer on 5 of them. I have also attended thousands of collisions in my career. When a fatal collision occurs the road is closed whilst the investigation takes place. It is then re-opened to the public. The investigation will have been very thorough and will have included the pot holes. When it has been re-opened it is not longer a crime scene and you can drive on it again, and the council can do what they want with it (even close it themselves if they deem appropriate). The council probably filled the pot hole so no one else damaged their vehicle or was injured. After all, what else are they supposed to do? Not touch it and then what happens if someone else is injured/killed? they would again be under fire for not acting on it when someone else has just recently died. I do agree with you, that it should not have taken a death for them to repair it, it should have been done when brough to their attention. My thoughts are with the guy who died. Also just a correction on what you said at 6:50. You said 'the pot hole that killed the Porsche driver'. We dont know yet what killed him until the investigation is complete.

[@soundseeker63]

Maybe not tampering with evidence in the legal sense but, surely an admission of fault repairing the pothole so soon after a fatal accident, having done nothing for weeks prior during which time it had been reported?

[@Ifitwerks]

I would think that over the preceding weeks numerous police cars must have travelled over the same road, would they have reported it? if not what would the reason be?

[@MatthewRSimpson]

In an investigation into any injury RTC the police complete a collision pack. Within this pack they will write (its actually tick boxes) what they believe to be the cause of the collision. Road conditions is one of the choices they can pick (including condition, markings, speed at this location, street furniture etc). This will feed back to the council for them to rectify. Yes, the police may have driven down this road and noticed the pot holes. They may have even reported them themselves. In fact I am sure even council workers (highways, bin lorry, etc) will have driven along it also. Its not 'just ' up to the police. There are many other people/road users that can do it too. But, apparently it HAD been reported, so its a none argument asking why the police may/may not have done so themselves as the council were already aware. This is purely down to the council. But all this is speculation, we dont even know the cause of the collision yet. It could be MANY things, from speed, to a medical episode, to a vehicle defect, to road conditions, to animal running out, to sun in eyes, to a whole array of things. Lets wait for the police report.